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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2021, 11:56:03 pm »
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« Reply #61 on: June 22, 2021, 11:57:34 pm »
If this tournament is supposed to be more "fun" and less sweaty, why are people mad that their stacked teams get rejected? Just pair up with a weaker regiment (like us 8)) and have fun with it.




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« Reply #62 on: June 22, 2021, 11:58:35 pm »
Tbh I don't know the state of either of the 55th/92nd centre companies currently and I do understand that with summer itll be hard with attendance etc. Bringing your centre companies was just an idea I offered for your sake which would be respectable, though if you are looking for other regiments, 19th are interested and potentially Nr13/65y. During the prelimnary discussions on FSE there was a concensus that 92nd/55th could bring their companies though I do understand that things do change

55th Could also bring a full team. I would love to join a 2v2 Format Tournament!

My point with which I wrote my original post with was to highlight and remind people the aims of this tournament and to reiterate what Kincaid said about teams as I do think its pretty unfair to portray Kincaid as cancelling you guys out without fair warning when it really was there.

A lot of bullshit written down by Maskman. Thank you for that!
So if we get denied with all those 'warnings' and irrelevant podcasts etc, then we still have the right to contradict this decision and try to make our case.
For example if your application would be denied than I guess you'd do the same if you think that Kincaid is wrong.

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Also 92nd cannot bring their centre company to this tournament, if it was possible then I think we'd do the same like 45thN.
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The reason as to why I linked the podcast in is to sell the point that playing with centre companies aint that bad and that there are advantages. Though I do understand where your hostility to irrelevant podcast comes from considering the last one you went on ended in tears  :'(

We never had a seperated Centre or Gren company only periodically a Lights company who ditched out because of low IQ. 65y hate me just so you know :)
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« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2021, 11:59:15 pm »
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I do disagree with this only not accepting of our team...

So I’ll just make my case to try and get my/our point across.

I think it is quite ridiculous to now go saying that certain regiments can’t play together after they have made their team and went through the “diplomacy” with each other and most other regiments that actually want to play have made their own teams as well. You can’t go and be like, you guys can’t play together and neither can you and you.

If you wanted certain regiments not to play together or certain teams not to form you should have put up restrictions in the beginning before any teams were formed. Because now you are just canceling us out of this competition with no valid reason and saying sort it out yourself and gl…. .

The fact that 92nd won EIC and 55th won RGT shouldn’t matter. The team was made before any of those wins, mainly because our officer cores get along pretty well and we play each other weekly. The fact that this year both of us were able to grasp victory shouldn’t define our participation in another competition with a different format. Only speaking for 55th now if you look back at EIC we choked and got our ass handed to us by the 77y. 15thYR just cause they lost twice doesn’t make them shit they virtually won every competition over the past years in this game. 77y has also always placed very high in the rankings in leagues and competitions.

13e, 71st, 96y, There are so many more regiments that are so called stacked in one way or another but that is just how it is in competitions. What should drive people is to overcome these regiments, stacks, teams and take on the challenge not cancel them to get an ez win in a competition because ez wins you should go get them in a casual LB.

I didn’t hear anyone complain about our team more then about other teams if there were even complaints. Every regiment, every team has a chance to win be it by skill or luck it doesn’t matter. A victor is only decided after the match is played, what is written on paper is worthless and has no meaning because everything can happen during a match and that has been proven more than enough times!

I think the teams are pretty dam fine and there would be a good competition going on still. But by cancelling our, You just play us out of the competition before it even started which is completely and utterly unfair.

I hope you see my point and can agree to it



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Yes it's fair to have 2 of the top 4 melee regiments be on a team together. You also posted the team app in early June which is not that long ago...
in a 20v20 line battle 55th is not a top 4 melee regiment. our 10v10 line-up is strong but as you saw on the RGT roster, 15v15 we are significantly weaker and 20v20 even more so. We also lost EIC to 77y, a regiment considered much weaker than our own. I agree our team is definitely strong but to reject us being able to play with each other is just obscene. using a 10v10 weekend group fighting tournament as a guidelines to who can play with each other isn't very smart and anyone in the competitive community can see that.
I'm sure you had your best guys on vs 77y. You guys totally haven't recruited more people since then.

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« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2021, 12:01:23 am »
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I do disagree with this only not accepting of our team...

So I’ll just make my case to try and get my/our point across.

I think it is quite ridiculous to now go saying that certain regiments can’t play together after they have made their team and went through the “diplomacy” with each other and most other regiments that actually want to play have made their own teams as well. You can’t go and be like, you guys can’t play together and neither can you and you.

If you wanted certain regiments not to play together or certain teams not to form you should have put up restrictions in the beginning before any teams were formed. Because now you are just canceling us out of this competition with no valid reason and saying sort it out yourself and gl…. .

The fact that 92nd won EIC and 55th won RGT shouldn’t matter. The team was made before any of those wins, mainly because our officer cores get along pretty well and we play each other weekly. The fact that this year both of us were able to grasp victory shouldn’t define our participation in another competition with a different format. Only speaking for 55th now if you look back at EIC we choked and got our ass handed to us by the 77y. 15thYR just cause they lost twice doesn’t make them shit they virtually won every competition over the past years in this game. 77y has also always placed very high in the rankings in leagues and competitions.

13e, 71st, 96y, There are so many more regiments that are so called stacked in one way or another but that is just how it is in competitions. What should drive people is to overcome these regiments, stacks, teams and take on the challenge not cancel them to get an ez win in a competition because ez wins you should go get them in a casual LB.

I didn’t hear anyone complain about our team more then about other teams if there were even complaints. Every regiment, every team has a chance to win be it by skill or luck it doesn’t matter. A victor is only decided after the match is played, what is written on paper is worthless and has no meaning because everything can happen during a match and that has been proven more than enough times!

I think the teams are pretty dam fine and there would be a good competition going on still. But by cancelling our, You just play us out of the competition before it even started which is completely and utterly unfair.

I hope you see my point and can agree to it



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Yes it's fair to have 2 of the top 4 melee regiments be on a team together. You also posted the team app in early June which is not that long ago...
in a 20v20 line battle 55th is not a top 4 melee regiment. our 10v10 line-up is strong but as you saw on the RGT roster, 15v15 we are significantly weaker and 20v20 even more so. We also lost EIC to 77y, a regiment considered much weaker than our own. I agree our team is definitely strong but to reject us being able to play with each other is just obscene. using a 10v10 weekend group fighting tournament as a guidelines to who can play with each other isn't very smart and anyone in the competitive community can see that.
I'm sure you had your best guys on vs 77y. You guys totally haven't recruited more people since then.
we've recruited maybe 4 more players? 4 players who will probs be shot before event reaching melee

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« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2021, 12:03:12 am »
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I do disagree with this only not accepting of our team...

So I’ll just make my case to try and get my/our point across.

I think it is quite ridiculous to now go saying that certain regiments can’t play together after they have made their team and went through the “diplomacy” with each other and most other regiments that actually want to play have made their own teams as well. You can’t go and be like, you guys can’t play together and neither can you and you.

If you wanted certain regiments not to play together or certain teams not to form you should have put up restrictions in the beginning before any teams were formed. Because now you are just canceling us out of this competition with no valid reason and saying sort it out yourself and gl…. .

The fact that 92nd won EIC and 55th won RGT shouldn’t matter. The team was made before any of those wins, mainly because our officer cores get along pretty well and we play each other weekly. The fact that this year both of us were able to grasp victory shouldn’t define our participation in another competition with a different format. Only speaking for 55th now if you look back at EIC we choked and got our ass handed to us by the 77y. 15thYR just cause they lost twice doesn’t make them shit they virtually won every competition over the past years in this game. 77y has also always placed very high in the rankings in leagues and competitions.

13e, 71st, 96y, There are so many more regiments that are so called stacked in one way or another but that is just how it is in competitions. What should drive people is to overcome these regiments, stacks, teams and take on the challenge not cancel them to get an ez win in a competition because ez wins you should go get them in a casual LB.

I didn’t hear anyone complain about our team more then about other teams if there were even complaints. Every regiment, every team has a chance to win be it by skill or luck it doesn’t matter. A victor is only decided after the match is played, what is written on paper is worthless and has no meaning because everything can happen during a match and that has been proven more than enough times!

I think the teams are pretty dam fine and there would be a good competition going on still. But by cancelling our, You just play us out of the competition before it even started which is completely and utterly unfair.

I hope you see my point and can agree to it



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Yes it's fair to have 2 of the top 4 melee regiments be on a team together. You also posted the team app in early June which is not that long ago...
in a 20v20 line battle 55th is not a top 4 melee regiment. our 10v10 line-up is strong but as you saw on the RGT roster, 15v15 we are significantly weaker and 20v20 even more so. We also lost EIC to 77y, a regiment considered much weaker than our own. I agree our team is definitely strong but to reject us being able to play with each other is just obscene. using a 10v10 weekend group fighting tournament as a guidelines to who can play with each other isn't very smart and anyone in the competitive community can see that.
I'm sure you had your best guys on vs 77y. You guys totally haven't recruited more people since then.

to fight 77y we put in our best and so what if we have had some additions ever since, if I look at the 10v10 and the EIC we have 3 new people that played in the RGT lineup and not in EIC but hey thnx for reminding me of my own roster :D
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« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2021, 12:07:04 am »
Tbh I don't know the state of either of the 55th/92nd centre companies currently and I do understand that with summer itll be hard with attendance etc. Bringing your centre companies was just an idea I offered for your sake which would be respectable, though if you are looking for other regiments, 19th are interested and potentially Nr13/65y. During the prelimnary discussions on FSE there was a concensus that 92nd/55th could bring their companies though I do understand that things do change

55th Could also bring a full team. I would love to join a 2v2 Format Tournament!

My point with which I wrote my original post with was to highlight and remind people the aims of this tournament and to reiterate what Kincaid said about teams as I do think its pretty unfair to portray Kincaid as cancelling you guys out without fair warning when it really was there.

A lot of bullshit written down by Maskman. Thank you for that!
So if we get denied with all those 'warnings' and irrelevant podcasts etc, then we still have the right to contradict this decision and try to make our case.
For example if your application would be denied than I guess you'd do the same if you think that Kincaid is wrong.

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Also 92nd cannot bring their centre company to this tournament, if it was possible then I think we'd do the same like 45thN.
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The reason as to why I linked the podcast in is to sell the point that playing with centre companies aint that bad and that there are advantages. Though I do understand where your hostility to irrelevant podcast comes from considering the last one you went on ended in tears  :'(

We never had a seperated Centre or Gren company only periodically a Lights company who ditched out because of low IQ. 65y hate me just so you know :)
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« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2021, 12:09:30 am »
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« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2021, 12:09:45 am »
So let’s just ignore someone like Maskman who knows next to nothing about leading and the capabilities of regiments performing well in a linebattle type of event.
To state that anyone on a “good day could beat the 77y/15thYR” is just a meme of its own, if that was the case why didn’t you beat the 77y or 15thYR then!?

As we leave Maskman in shambles behind and his dumb argument that mid tier teams should be fielded as if that wouldn’t result in a default win for the current reigning champs.

I would like to point out that yes on paper a coalition of 92nd and 55th looks OP but so does a coalition between 96y and 71st, that coalition is also very strong in my opinion due to seasoned leadership and a strong melee line up that could potentially be fielded by them.

We as the 92nd intend to bring the entire regiment to the 2v2 tournament as we did in the previous tournament where we played along side a very strong 33rd line up.
This means every member it being lights, center and grens will play, this also primarily as the 2v2 linebattle format isn’t really something many grens enjoy and therefor cant be accounted for to show up in big numbers.

As for the 55th I think a lot can be said for their 10 men RGT Line up which is on a high level, but they also field a fast majority of some lesser competitive players that also very much would like to participate in a tournament or competitive event of some sort.
Simply look at EIC performance they did pretty good but felt short against some of the stronger regiments that are also playing in this tournament.

So I do hope Kincaid you can withdraw your current judgement and let the 92nd/55th coalition play in your tournament, Rayleigh and I have been talking for a very longtime about making this team and would both feel very disappointed if we would have to pick some other regiment that we have no strong ties too.

If preferred we can speak on teamspeak in further details about it as well.

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« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2021, 12:16:19 am »
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Use someone else their victory as your own. That's a real accomplishment!
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« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2021, 12:17:52 am »
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my point was that u cried on stream
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« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2021, 12:19:34 am »
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my point was that u cried on stream
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« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2021, 12:23:09 am »
So let%u2019s just ignore someone like Maskman who knows next to nothing about leading and the capabilities of regiments performing well in a linebattle type of event.
To state that anyone on a %u201Cgood day could beat the 77y/15thYR%u201D is just a meme of its own, if that was the case why didn%u2019t you beat the 77y or 15thYR then!?

As we leave Maskman in shambles behind and his dumb argument that mid tier teams should be fielded as if that wouldn%u2019t result in a default win for the current reigning champs.

I would like to point out that yes on paper a coalition of 92nd and 55th looks OP but so does a coalition between 96y and 71st, that coalition is also very strong in my opinion due to seasoned leadership and a strong melee line up that could potentially be fielded by them.

We as the 92nd intend to bring the entire regiment to the 2v2 tournament as we did in the previous tournament where we played along side a very strong 33rd line up.
This means every member it being lights, center and grens will play, this also primarily as the 2v2 linebattle format isn%u2019t really something many grens enjoy and therefor cant be accounted for to show up in big numbers.

As for the 55th I think a lot can be said for their 10 men RGT Line up which is on a high level, but they also field a fast majority of some lesser competitive players that also very much would like to participate in a tournament or competitive event of some sort.
Simply look at EIC performance they did pretty good but felt short against some of the stronger regiments that are also playing in this tournament.

So I do hope Kincaid you can withdraw your current judgement and let the 92nd/55th coalition play in your tournament, Rayleigh and I have been talking for a very longtime about making this team and would both feel very disappointed if we would have to pick some other regiment that we have no strong ties too.

If preferred we can speak on teamspeak in further details about it as well.

Indeed our LB lineup is comprised of mid tier level players and semi competitive players. Most of the grens indeed don't enjoy 1v1 or LB and as I said before they are usually terrible at formations since they never come to any LB events so I usually prefer other people in anyways.

Teamspeak would indeed be better before this gets out of hand.

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« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2021, 12:34:13 am »
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Tbh I don't know the state of either of the 55th/92nd centre companies currently and I do understand that with summer itll be hard with attendance etc. Bringing your centre companies was just an idea I offered for your sake which would be respectable, though if you are looking for other regiments, 19th are interested and potentially Nr13/65y. During the prelimnary discussions on FSE there was a concensus that 92nd/55th could bring their companies though I do understand that things do change

55th Could also bring a full team. I would love to join a 2v2 Format Tournament!

My point with which I wrote my original post with was to highlight and remind people the aims of this tournament and to reiterate what Kincaid said about teams as I do think its pretty unfair to portray Kincaid as cancelling you guys out without fair warning when it really was there.

A lot of bullshit written down by Maskman. Thank you for that!
So if we get denied with all those 'warnings' and irrelevant podcasts etc, then we still have the right to contradict this decision and try to make our case.
For example if your application would be denied than I guess you'd do the same if you think that Kincaid is wrong.

Spoiler
Also 92nd cannot bring their centre company to this tournament, if it was possible then I think we'd do the same like 45thN.
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The reason as to why I linked the podcast in is to sell the point that playing with centre companies aint that bad and that there are advantages. Though I do understand where your hostility to irrelevant podcast comes from considering the last one you went on ended in tears  :'(

We never had a seperated Centre or Gren company only periodically a Lights company who ditched out because of low IQ. 65y hate me just so you know :)
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How about write all your ideas and concerns about the tournament in a polite message to Kincaid other steam (I know most of you try to do it that way on this thread, but some people *cough* looking other to my belgium friend *cough* just trying to create some beef).
Cause in the end it's his tournament, he can decide what he wants the rules to be. On the other hand, it is your time so you can choose yourself if you want to play in it or not (like the Nr13 for example, we like the tournament but july is a really bad time for us).

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« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2021, 12:50:29 am »
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Tbh I don't know the state of either of the 55th/92nd centre companies currently and I do understand that with summer itll be hard with attendance etc. Bringing your centre companies was just an idea I offered for your sake which would be respectable, though if you are looking for other regiments, 19th are interested and potentially Nr13/65y. During the prelimnary discussions on FSE there was a concensus that 92nd/55th could bring their companies though I do understand that things do change

55th Could also bring a full team. I would love to join a 2v2 Format Tournament!

My point with which I wrote my original post with was to highlight and remind people the aims of this tournament and to reiterate what Kincaid said about teams as I do think its pretty unfair to portray Kincaid as cancelling you guys out without fair warning when it really was there.

A lot of bullshit written down by Maskman. Thank you for that!
So if we get denied with all those 'warnings' and irrelevant podcasts etc, then we still have the right to contradict this decision and try to make our case.
For example if your application would be denied than I guess you'd do the same if you think that Kincaid is wrong.

Spoiler
Also 92nd cannot bring their centre company to this tournament, if it was possible then I think we'd do the same like 45thN.
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The reason as to why I linked the podcast in is to sell the point that playing with centre companies aint that bad and that there are advantages. Though I do understand where your hostility to irrelevant podcast comes from considering the last one you went on ended in tears  :'(

We never had a seperated Centre or Gren company only periodically a Lights company who ditched out because of low IQ. 65y hate me just so you know :)
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How about write all your ideas and concerns about the tournament in a polite message to Kincaid other steam (I know most of you try to do it that way on this thread, but some people *cough* looking other to my belgium friend *cough* just trying to create some beef).
Cause in the end it's his tournament, he can decide what he wants the rules to be. On the other hand, it is your time so you can choose yourself if you want to play in it or not (like the Nr13 for example, we like the tournament but july is a really bad time for us).

I'm just voicing it here as via steam and ts so far we have not  been able to go over it properly due to our schedules and I just wanted it out here.  I'm not trying to start beef I just voiced my opinion and some facts. I already said I avoid fse cause it is dogshit and amounts to nothing good. Also not my fault that in the past I was forced to post due to circumstances.  Anyhow let's keep it for in ts.
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