While the suicide rates among young people have been steadily increasing over the past few years, I don't believe they are as big a problem as it is made out to be. The thing about suicide is that is is very very hard to pull off, especially if you are in your physical prime and are biologically and psychologically selected to stay alive by any means necessary. It takes much more than the problems you have outlined in order to actually go through with an act as permanent as suicide (i.e. loneliness endured over many years, divorce). If you look at suicide statistics, the highest rate appears in middle-aged men living in more rural parts of the U.S. (Montana is the state with the highest rate per ASFP: https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/ ). Here is a quote from one of my favorite authors that I feel accurately describes the rationale behind someone who is truly suicidal:I hoped that someone would use Wallace's quote, as I felt as if I could articulate the point a little bit better from another's usage of it. Anyways, let us assume that fall and fire retain their symbolism, but the latter is amplified by a drastic amount with the points I had used above. Would many not have their anxieties about the future (which is considerably bad in our case) eventually fall into the same chasm of agony that Foster references? The fire could be stoked at an accelerated rate, leading said individual to jump far sooner than others would have at other points in time. In my opinion, I see that as exactly what is occurring right now.Spoiler"The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling."
-David Foster Wallace[close]
While young people may be depressed at an alarming rate (I am one of these people), I do not believe the situation is hopeless and would argue that this is, as you stated, a normal condition in our stage of life (young adult) where we are not quite emotionally matured to deal with the ugly truths about our situation. You could say this is a "rite of passage" into the stage of adulthood that everyone goes through in their own way.The feeling that teenagers/young adults is completely natural, but as I said above, those pressures are becoming increasingly taxing with each subsequent generation. Nowadays, it is nigh-impossible to get away from what is happening across the world. What could take hours or even days to report now takes mere seconds. Information is constantly being thrown at us at such a rate that we simply can't handle it in most cases. Essentially, it is driving us batshit insane, and it's only getting worse.
Student debt: This is a very real and unsustainable problem that the U.S. is currently facing that I don't think a solution will be found for anytime soon. However, thinking about this pragmatically, I don't believe it is enough of a reason to forego higher education, which at this point is necessary to have in order to have a stable income. Furthermore, I can realistically see college debt being forgiven at some point in the future just because there is a very low chance that this debt will be paid off and because of the sheer amount of people it affects. So basically, don't pay those student loans :^)Agreed for the most part, but I don't think the Dem's plan to simply pull the plug on the debt will only solve things in the long term.
Climate Change: It is an undeniable fact that climate change exists and that humans are responsible for the rate at which it occurring. I am skeptical however as to the extent that we as humans can actually do to prevent it, or even whether it would produce the catastrophic events like food shortages, mass immigration, population displacement, extreme weather conditions, and the like. I laude anyone who makes personal lifestyle choices to reduce their carbon footprint, but I would I agree with you that such a person ultimately won't be the one to prevent the planet from undergoing dramatic change and it's unrealistic to expect governments to enforce such a lifestyle upon everyone. (Here's an interesting article on a fatalistic view about climate change by Nobel prize laureate Robert Laughlin: https://theamericanscholar.org/what-the-earth-knows/#.XUc6zuhKiUl)Climate change is indeed natural, and we have sped it up considerably to the point that we aren't quite sure how we will adapt. I also believe that we are past the tipping point of saving us from any permanent damage. We are only beginning to feel the effects from CO2 emissions that occurred in the 70s and 80s. It still has thirty years of catching up, and the effects are already being seen. As the caps melt, expect the sea levels to rise and new beachfront property to become available. Let's also not forget that sizable amounts of the world population live on the coast, and once the water starts coming, they are going to start moving further inland (the worst case of this being in Bangladesh). My generation does confuse me at times though. On some days, they are willing to participate so that we may have a preservable planet in the near future, while on other days they simply resort to defeatism and then proceed to cry about their cosmic insignificance.
Apathy: There will always be selfish people in the world, but I am not sure how much harm the boomers actually have contributed to current conditions or whether your generalization is accurate. In any case, these people are starting to phase out of the workforce and will eventually begin to die off and probably won't have as big an impact on the future as our generation will.I'll have to write up the issues Boomers have caused at another time, as it's rather complicated. To simplify; I'm rather certain the damage they have done is going to effect us for a long time, and they will probably get shit on in the history books.
Anyway, it is my belief that every generation has its problems and crisis, and that ours will be no exception, but the power of human will has shown us time and time again that we get through these things more or less unscathed. The future is uncertain and we haven't been around long enough to feel certain that we will get through it, but I think we will. Then again, I could be completely wrong and this might end up being the point at which we finally destroy ourselves, so might as well just ride it out and enjoy the ride :^).If only enjoying the ride was so simple for me :(
I don't disagree with the reasons you've outlined explaining why suicide and hopelessness are on the rise, but I would venture to say that the biggest factors driving the 17-24 demographic into this poor mental state are broken families and the complete destruction of community spirit across the Western world. Children from one-parent households, especially fatherless households, are extremely at risk for future mental illness, and since the rate of stable marriages declines rapidly the lower you go in socioeconomic status, it is not a surprise that a great number of young people are driven to destructive behaviors and eventually suicide.True, Western Culture is currently undergoing massive shifts that are tugging at every corner with no clear direction. Younger people also tend to be more driven by lust rather than compatibility when considering their intimate relationships, often resulting in failure.
Moreover, the attitude you cast on Boomers of selfishness is also reflected in mainstream Gen Z culture, as well - apart from lip service to supporting others with mental illness, the "treat yourself" culture/popular attitudes towards consumer behavior reject any real sense of community in favor of individual hedonism. At least Boomers recognize the importance of a community (whether actually religious or not, that cohort is much more likely to engage in a religious community), while millenials and generation z have an extremely negative view of religion. It's no wonder this exact demographic cohort makes up the mass shooters of today - young, hopeless, existentially nihilistic, from a family with divorced or deceased parent(s), and socially neglected and underdeveloped.
tl;dr at this point, but know this - suicide is extremely selfish and pathetic way to gohumanity is extremely selfish and pathetic too, so it balances out
tl;dr at this point, but know this - suicide is extremely selfish and pathetic way to goI do not think it's a selfish act to take your own life. I can't bring myself to believe that suicidal people ignore the fact that they're leaving their friends and families behind. It's important to remember what's going on in the mind of a very depressed person. If you put yourself in the situation you might find that the decision to take your own life is far from rational. Atleast when mental illnes like depression is the reason behind the decision.
I'd say the reasons for the suicide determine whether it is selfish. Say you are a single parent with two children working two jobs in order to provide, and then one day you've decided enough is enough. I would say that is certainly selfish, as you have probably traumatized the children, as well as leaving them completely alone. Now lets look at that poor bastard who just lost his retirement savings, got divorced, and was fired from his job. Is suicide then justifiable from an outsiders perspective? From what I can gather, most suicides are poorly thought out, usually being a rash answer to an overblown problem. This is hardly a Cato the Younger type of sacrifice.tl;dr at this point, but know this - suicide is extremely selfish and pathetic way to goI do not think it's a selfish act to take your own life. I can't bring myself to believe that suicidal people ignore the fact that they're leaving their friends and families behind. It's important to remember what's going on in the mind of a very depressed person. If you put yourself in the situation you might find that the decision to take your own life is far from rational. Atleast when mental illnes like depression is the reason behind the decision.
I'm putting suicide rates in young men down to a lack of wonderlust and ambition. The systems were currently raised in are perfected machines designed to create worker bees. The young man biologically is designed to improve and overtake as is all evolution and evolving but we aren't allowed to do so and become frustrated / disillusioned. The majority get distracted and fall into the trap of the machine others are generally left behind and are at their own devices.A well put statment.
But you're only useful while you can work for the machine, as rates of suicide in older men is just as bad (I believe no expert ) once you untangle yourself out of debt, get your kids on their feet & have time to think I guess you revert back.
If you're too busy you don't have time to be depressed, if you've got something constantly calling you it helps. I believe boredom & depression are linked and could be the gateway into a spiral.
After all our brains are problem solvers. And somewhere along the line the idea of death becomes the correction to your life's issues.
I'm putting suicide rates in young men down to a lack of wonderlust and ambition. The systems were currently raised in are perfected machines designed to create worker bees. The young man biologically is designed to improve and overtake as is all evolution and evolving but we aren't allowed to do so and become frustrated / disillusioned. The majority get distracted and fall into the trap of the machine others are generally left behind and are at their own devices.To some degree, this makes sense. You let your mind wander while being unproductive and bored can lead to some morbid thoughts, which can often manifest into harm.
But you're only useful while you can work for the machine, as rates of suicide in older men is just as bad (I believe no expert ) once you untangle yourself out of debt, get your kids on their feet & have time to think I guess you revert back.
If you're too busy you don't have time to be depressed, if you've got something constantly calling you it helps. I believe boredom & depression are linked and could be the gateway into a spiral.
After all our brains are problem solvers. And somewhere along the line the idea of death becomes the correction to your life's issues.
I'm putting suicide rates in young men down to a lack of wonderlust and ambition. The systems were currently raised in are perfected machines designed to create worker bees. The young man biologically is designed to improve and overtake as is all evolution and evolving but we aren't allowed to do so and become frustrated / disillusioned. The majority get distracted and fall into the trap of the machine others are generally left behind and are at their own devices.To some degree, this makes sense. You let your mind wander while being unproductive and bored can lead to some morbid thoughts, which can often manifest into harm.
But you're only useful while you can work for the machine, as rates of suicide in older men is just as bad (I believe no expert ) once you untangle yourself out of debt, get your kids on their feet & have time to think I guess you revert back.
If you're too busy you don't have time to be depressed, if you've got something constantly calling you it helps. I believe boredom & depression are linked and could be the gateway into a spiral.
After all our brains are problem solvers. And somewhere along the line the idea of death becomes the correction to your life's issues.
Would you say that men are, by the Evolutionary Theory, more driven then women to accomplish goals and whatnot? Statistics show that 69.67% of US suicides are men, with it slowly narrowing down in the past decade. Going off this, could we formulate some sort of model to figure out why young women are increasingly driven to suicide as well?
An interesting statistic showed that around 15% of these suicides are American Indians and Alaskan Natives. Could there possibly be a correlation between ethnicity and location?
An interesting statistic showed that around 15% of these suicides are American Indians and Alaskan Natives. Could there possibly be a correlation between ethnicity and location?The main connection between ethnicity/location and suicide is primarily socioeconomic. That's not just to say absolute wealth but also financial security or lack thereof. With Alaska and extreme rural communities social isolation also comes into it which is a huge risk factor.
The main connection between ethnicity/location and suicide is primarily socioeconomic. That's not just to say absolute wealth but also financial security or lack thereof. With Alaska and extreme rural communities social isolation also comes into it which is a huge risk factor.Isolation playing a major role makes sense. The states with the highest rates of suicide are Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, and New Mexico, where people are known to be seclusive/poor.
Off the top of my head (and excluding factors like age and sex):The protective factors are what a majority of people would consider to be their primary sources for happiness and whatnot. In spite of this, I've heard and read about plenty of men (and rarely women) that offed themselves regardless. I don't have a statistic to show for it, but it is odd. Guess it goes to show that some people can't be helped.
The biggest protective factors are a partner, kids or barring that living with others, pets, a stable work environment etc.
Biggest risk factors are recent bereavement, relationship breakdown, loss of job/bankruptcy, access to the means.
Obviously that's kind of a separate topic to the main question being asked, as while social media, shitty world news etc may make people depressed, other than in very fringe cases it doesn't cause suicide.Not sure if this is a US based phenomenon, but talks about suicide inside school classrooms (as well as mine) have become a practical colloquialism. It is integrated heavily into the culture as some sort of way for us to vent at each other in a dark manner. Even if they are depressed, students actively joke about it, and the teachers will almost never take action. I wouldn't know much about the 40-60 group, but an educated guess would point me towards a failed/mediocre career, marriage and children (or lack thereof), physical/mental ailments, and divorce.
Rates of suicide among youths are increasing substantially, but the 40-60 ish group still has the highest rate afaik, despite many of these problems described affecting them far less.
I imagine it's social isolation and job insecurity beginning at a much younger age that are having such an impact on younger age groups, but it's hard to measure either objectively.
Life is shit, deal with itThanks for the words of wisdom. Now that you've enlightened them, I'm sure everyone will walk into a 50k job without going to college. Obviously these opportunities are always there and by you typing out that loving message everyone will see the world for the cheery place that it is, full of opportunity and money!
1: Don't be poor
2: Be an asshole (Also poor people deserve to be poor)
3: Life is shit, don't strive for it to be better because other people had/have it worse
My credentials are that I'm very privileged compared to most people my age, or even in general
I'm sure everyone will walk into a 50k job without going to college. Obviously these opportunities are always there and by you typing out that loving message everyone will see the world for the cheery place that it is, full of opportunity and money!
If you're going to be a prick, find a different thread for it.
This is ridiculous. I never met someone who committed suicide over fucking global warmingapparently the intellectuals over on r/teenagers are so overwhelmed by the idea
I'm sure everyone will walk into a 50k job without going to college. Obviously these opportunities are always there and by you typing out that loving message everyone will see the world for the cheery place that it is, full of opportunity and money!
you really encompass that sore loser attitude i wrote about. i assume we're in the same age bracket/peer group, so by that, i am your competition. you should want to beat me, either by doing what i've done better or going your own path. from my perspective, with that sorry ass post, you're no competition at all just like 90% of my peers.
perhaps you should've started working on your apprenticeships at 15. you could be an apprentice by 18 -- that's anywhere between 12 and 25 bucks an hour right out of high school depending on your trade -- and then you'd be a journeyman by 24. you should've joined the military, 3 of the 5 branches are well-disguised welfare organizations and take anyone anyway. you should've maybe volunteered to work with the peace corps, go help people overseas and come back wiser and more worldly.
while you may not want to be an electrician, or a military man, or an aid worker for the rest of your life, the job experience, the soft skills you acquire, how your work/professional personality develops and also the connections you make with the people you meet are infinitely more valuable than good grades and a little degree. even STEM degrees are so oversaturated these days that you really have to have something that distinguishes you amongst your peers other than just doing well academically.
i'm not being a prick, i'm saying things mommy and daddy should've taught their kids instead of letting them soak up and absorb whatever poison the public schools put out.If you're going to be a prick, find a different thread for it.
this hugbox mentality is why kids dont become adults well into their 20s.
This sounds like the typical "pull your bootstraps up" shit I keep hearing.I'm sure everyone will walk into a 50k job without going to college. Obviously these opportunities are always there and by you typing out that loving message everyone will see the world for the cheery place that it is, full of opportunity and money!
you really encompass that sore loser attitude i wrote about. i assume we're in the same age bracket/peer group, so by that, i am your competition. you should want to beat me, either by doing what i've done better or going your own path. from my perspective, with that sorry ass post, you're no competition at all just like 90% of my peers.
perhaps you should've started working on your apprenticeships at 15. you could be an apprentice by 18 -- that's anywhere between 12 and 25 bucks an hour right out of high school depending on your trade -- and then you'd be a journeyman by 24. you should've joined the military, 3 of the 5 branches are well-disguised welfare organizations and take anyone anyway. you should've maybe volunteered to work with the peace corps, go help people overseas and come back wiser and more worldly.
while you may not want to be an electrician, or a military man, or an aid worker for the rest of your life, the job experience, the soft skills you acquire, how your work/professional personality develops and also the connections you make with the people you meet are infinitely more valuable than good grades and a little degree. even STEM degrees are so oversaturated these days that you really have to have something that distinguishes you amongst your peers other than just doing well academically.
i'm not being a prick, i'm saying things mommy and daddy should've taught their kids instead of letting them soak up and absorb whatever poison the public schools put out.If you're going to be a prick, find a different thread for it.
this hugbox mentality is why kids dont become adults well into their 20s.
This is ridiculous. I never met someone who committed suicide over fucking global warmingslightly different, but i know people who dont want kids because of the way the earth may become... Environmentalists feel strongly for it and some people (not saying it's right or wrong) don't want to live in a world ruined by certain countries, i wont name them to be polite, but this is what people believe and is a more common thing than u may realise.
You sound like a simple-minded retard. And it is hilarious you attempt to call yourself an adult at 19. You're still a little boy with no more knowledge of the world and life than a 13 year old child. Depression and success by society's standards do not always correlate. Look at Robin Williams and countless other rich and famous people that have committed suicide. Your just a COG in the machine like everyone else so stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
Live your life like your in competition to be the best all the time and see how much true happiness you really find. Materialism is programmed into your brain and you have the audacity to come here and say people are pussys for not striving to be rich and falling into depression. You clearly don't know anything about depression in the first place, teenager.
You're the type of guy to hit up underage girls and try to flex with your "credentials" because any real adult would literally laugh in your face if you said this shit in person.
This sounds like the typical "pull your bootstraps up" shit I keep hearing.and it starts with quite literally wearing boots to do the kind of work that no one else is willing to.
SpoilerYou sound like a simple-minded retard. And it is hilarious you attempt to call yourself an adult at 19. You're still a little boy with no more knowledge of the world and life than a 13 year old child. Depression and success by society's standards do not always correlate. Look at Robin Williams and countless other rich and famous people that have committed suicide. Your just a COG in the machine like everyone else so stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
no you sound like a big stupid stupid head. money is just a means to an end. having it allows you to care and provide for your family, not having it means going to bed hungry and putting your kids to bed hungry, or in my family's most recent case, my dad going blind. in order for you to achieve success, you have to define it for yourself and it must be a reasonable goal. too many people these days have unrealistic ideas of success, and the failure to meet that self-set expectation leads to depression and suicidal ideation. so many kids grow up convinced by their stupid parents that they can literally do anything, and when they finally realize they can't, it's easy to see why they are crushed. of course this is a normal part of the maturing process, probably because it's hard to sit your kid down and explain to them that there are certain things in this world that they simply can not do, and so many parents just choose not to. unfortunately, today, this is compounded by the fact that kids now not only believe they can do anything and everything, but that they've grown up in a world where they get everything instantly and so want their unrealistic goal to occur right NOW.
to me, success is being able to look back at any point in time and say that I have done something that has improved the quality of life or wellbeing of my family. to do that, i work hard to make money and try my best to save it. success isn't making my family proud; there's no pride in scrubbing shitters and i've scrubbed a lot of them, it's to look out for them.
i believe that this is a reasonable idea of success. i can affect the state of my family's health and quality of life. i can buy them gifts, i can help manage their finances, i can pay for some of their bills. this, in my eyes, is really repaying the ultimate debt to the most important influencers of my life, not to some bank so that i can get a degree with a wishy-washy idea that one day i will have enough money to pay my parents back. to improve your family's well-being is a realistic goal, it's a morally correct goal, and it should be the primary goal shared by everyone.
why is success equivalent to being rich in your head? are you the materialistic one, maybe?Live your life like your in competition to be the best all the time and see how much true happiness you really find. Materialism is programmed into your brain and you have the audacity to come here and say people are pussys for not striving to be rich and falling into depression. You clearly don't know anything about depression in the first place, teenager.
no i'd say those people are pussies for not looking themselves in the mirror and saying, "wow, i'm a stupid, immature brat that can't face the fact that i'm not actually special and not entitled to all the world's success"You're the type of guy to hit up underage girls and try to flex with your "credentials" because any real adult would literally laugh in your face if you said this shit in person.
oh wow, mark, something on your mind?[close]
you really encompass that sore loser attitude i wrote about. i assume we're in the same age bracket/peer group, so by that, i am your competition. you should want to beat me, either by doing what i've done better or going your own path. from my perspective, with that sorry ass post, you're no competition at all just like 90% of my peers.Cute, but in the nicest possible way, as a doctor I'm not exactly "competition" in the job market sense of the word. I'm sure you'll end up earning far more than me (you probably already do), so well done on that I suppose.
I dont think you're a very smart person, man. Failure to meet your own idea of success is what causes depression and eventually suicidal ideation. Stop talking about wealth and equating it to success. Robin Williams hanged himself because he had a debhilitating disease and didnt want to be a burden on his family.When you say this, is it meant within a certain parameter or relatively speaking? Sylvia Path and Kurt Cobain were both clinically depressed from a young age and ultimately pulled the trigger, yet still managed to be immensely successful and satisfied in their respective fields. It doesn't take a lot for a person to fall into a major depressive episode, no matter the circumstance. One of my first bouts was triggered when I was struggling to cook pancakes, followed by a flood of intrusive thoughts. Nothing horrible had happened that day, but instead a rather macabre feeling triggered an 8 month period of complete and utter apathy.
SpoilerI dont think you're a very smart person, man. Failure to meet your own idea of success is what causes depression and eventually suicidal ideation. Stop talking about wealth and equating it to success. Robin Williams hanged himself because he had a debhilitating disease and didnt want to be a burden on his family.
Second, you can not achieve anything no matter how many stars align. Please, do not believe that and do not spread that poison to anyone else. There are dreams and there are goals. Immigrants to the US are barred from ever being president. That is something Pedro can not do.
Lastly, you really, really suck at reading comprehension. I put "for better or worse" because some people will see what i put and be either repulsed or attracted by what I've manage to achieve in a relatively short amount of time right out of high school, especially compared to my peers. It wasn't saying "i have 2 years job experience, period." It wasn't part of a resume. I didnt use "credentials" in the literal sense of the word. It's simply there to provide this thing called "context." Does that make things easier for you, little guy? I don't know how old you are but if youre above the age of 20, youre very, very sad.[close]
That’s the Marceaux I remember
SpoilerOk now it is very clear, you actually are fucking retarded. You're just a stupid little bitch talking out of your ass. Good thing your dad is blind now, so he doesn't have to see his nightmare of a son grow up. You disgusting little piece of garbage. You are the scourge of humanity. How many times did your peers beat you up and make fun of you? Enough to create a pussy like you i guess. And no female will ever be with you considering just how tiny your dick is. Matter of fact, speaking of suicide you are a prime candidate so please oblige the world and do it you little bitch.
And thank god you think 90% of your peers aren't like you. Thank fucking god. Now I have some hope for the next few generations.[close]
your heart and lungs are the most important muscles in your body.Oh no it's retarded :(
zucchini man raises a good point. maybe so many kids wouldnt be depressed if so many kids weren't so fucking FAT. poor diet and lack of exercise is the greatest threat to our generation. if you weigh over 200 (assuming normal height) and can't run at the very least an 8 minute mile, YOU'RE UNHEALTHY. your heart and lungs are the most important muscles in your body.
your heart and lungs are the most important muscles in your body.Oh no it's retarded :(
imagine being a kid with a high school diploma and debating against a seasoned medical professional and adamantly believing you know more about medical issues
there's a reason we in the legal profession use doctors as expert witnesses on medical issues and not 19 year old factory workers lmao
imagine thinking it's ok to be fat
imagine thinking it's ok to be fatWhile I would agree that being overweight generally can cause issues is there really anything inherently wrong with it? I've known plenty of people who were less-than-fit, but were entirely ok with that and it had little impact on their general happiness. Most of them were perfectly fine with the risks associated with their lifestyle, and a few are already dead from it, but I find it hard to argue that they didn't enjoy their lives.
If you care too much about what other people are thinking you’ll get no where in life except getting deeper into your depression.I don't know if this has much to do with what I wrote
Wasn’t towards youIf you care too much about what other people are thinking you’ll get no where in life except getting deeper into your depression.I don't know if this has much to do with what I wrote
I made the thread while factoring in socioeconomic factors instead of more personal ones.Wasn’t towards youIf you care too much about what other people are thinking you’ll get no where in life except getting deeper into your depression.I don't know if this has much to do with what I wrote
And I think thats part of the issue. A lot of depression comes from personal reasoning and deep inner feelings that sometimes don't have a real good explanation behind them. And I feel that real depression usually isn't related to socioeconomic factors. More so a chemical imbalance in the brain causing you to be irrationally depressed.Trust me I'm well aware of this, but rates are steadily increasing in first world countries despite the fact that no era has ever been easier to live in. I somewhat believe that a part of the rise in depression numbers is related to the slow destigmatization of it. This has now resulted in people being more open about their problems. The suicide rate (which is steadily rising) on the other hand, is something that I'm having a difficult time narrowing down.
@Winters https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/12/04/why-climate-alarmism-hurts-us-all/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueI agree that it's unscientific (to an extent), but that doesn't really matter at this point. What does matter is that it's petrified millions into defeatism or spiraled their mental health down the drain. Considering we have hundreds of sources spewing different opnions on the data, who are we supposed to believe here? Moreover, if this turns out to be overblown, then I figure this will be just the first in many cases of scientists bullshitting their way to the top.
Existential anxiety about climate change is unscientific.
My thing on climate change is that I noticed it so has my family, I'm from Missouri, the Winters here have been changing, according to my Dad snow used to stay on the ground for most of the winter in our part of Missouri, for example we had a snow storm the other day 4-5 inches of snow and literally 3 days later it's almost all melted and grass is mostly exposed because it went from low 20's to mid 50's in 2 days. Some people say this benfits the farmers because of longer growing seasons but Winter comes at the same time every year it just isn't constantly 20's 30's, it's like half the week 20-30 degrees then it becomes like 50 for the next half and they randomly swap, it used to be rare in Missouri for winter to go over 50 degrees in my area.This year it happened almost every week.Nothing you can do it about it friend. Every attempt to curb the effects are negligible at this point. It's going to be like this for the rest of our lives.
My thing on climate change is that I noticed it so has my family, I'm from Missouri, the Winters here have been changing, according to my Dad snow used to stay on the ground for most of the winter in our part of Missouri, for example we had a snow storm the other day 4-5 inches of snow and literally 3 days later it's almost all melted and grass is mostly exposed because it went from low 20's to mid 50's in 2 days. Some people say this benfits the farmers because of longer growing seasons but Winter comes at the same time every year it just isn't constantly 20's 30's, it's like half the week 20-30 degrees then it becomes like 50 for the next half and they randomly swap, it used to be rare in Missouri for winter to go over 50 degrees in my area.This year it happened almost every week.It's hard to find exhaustive climate records for your state but I found this https://www.weather.gov/lsx/monthTab - from what you said about over 50's, it seems you live near Jefferson City? Excluding the 2014-15 El Nino the recorded high vs normal high is
This is irresponsible for you to post, Winters - you know as well as anyone else that catastrophic predictions about climate are unsupported by scientific bodies like the IPCC and the EPA. Helpful link again! https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/12/04/why-climate-alarmism-hurts-us-all/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueMy thing on climate change is that I noticed it so has my family, I'm from Missouri, the Winters here have been changing, according to my Dad snow used to stay on the ground for most of the winter in our part of Missouri, for example we had a snow storm the other day 4-5 inches of snow and literally 3 days later it's almost all melted and grass is mostly exposed because it went from low 20's to mid 50's in 2 days. Some people say this benfits the farmers because of longer growing seasons but Winter comes at the same time every year it just isn't constantly 20's 30's, it's like half the week 20-30 degrees then it becomes like 50 for the next half and they randomly swap, it used to be rare in Missouri for winter to go over 50 degrees in my area.This year it happened almost every week.Nothing you can do it about it friend. Every attempt to curb the effects are negligible at this point. It's going to be like this for the rest of our lives.
My advice would be to just get as much as you can out of it now. We are fragile creatures that turn into savage monsters when desperate. Blame will be tossed around like a hot iron and nothing will be done. This isn't an isolated event that only effects certain people, the problems will most likely go global. Purely from experience I can tell you this; human beings are NOT good or rational when left unsatisfied. That is our greatest biological failing and perhaps the inevitable fate of all intelligent life, to self destruct in the face of void.
My thing on climate change is that I noticed it so has my family, I'm from Missouri, the Winters here have been changing, according to my Dad snow used to stay on the ground for most of the winter in our part of Missouri, for example we had a snow storm the other day 4-5 inches of snow and literally 3 days later it's almost all melted and grass is mostly exposed because it went from low 20's to mid 50's in 2 days. Some people say this benfits the farmers because of longer growing seasons but Winter comes at the same time every year it just isn't constantly 20's 30's, it's like half the week 20-30 degrees then it becomes like 50 for the next half and they randomly swap, it used to be rare in Missouri for winter to go over 50 degrees in my area.This year it happened almost every week.It's hard to find exhaustive climate records for your state but I found this https://www.weather.gov/lsx/monthTab - from what you said about over 50's, it seems you live near Jefferson City? Excluding the 2014-15 El Nino the recorded high vs normal high is
2019 +3
2018 +2
2017 +1
2016 -2
14,15 excluded for el nino years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9316_El_Ni%C3%B1o_event
2013 +1
2012 +6
2011 +6
2010 -4
2009 -2
2008 -1
2007 0
2006 +6
which totals +16 over a 12 year span - an increase of about 1.3 degrees F per year. So yes! You're having warmer winters these days, by about 1.3 degrees - a far cry from the catastrophic temperatures those on the alarmist end of the climate issue would like you to believe.This is irresponsible for you to post, Winters - you know as well as anyone else that catastrophic predictions about climate are unsupported by scientific bodies like the IPCC and the EPA. Helpful link again! https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/12/04/why-climate-alarmism-hurts-us-all/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueMy thing on climate change is that I noticed it so has my family, I'm from Missouri, the Winters here have been changing, according to my Dad snow used to stay on the ground for most of the winter in our part of Missouri, for example we had a snow storm the other day 4-5 inches of snow and literally 3 days later it's almost all melted and grass is mostly exposed because it went from low 20's to mid 50's in 2 days. Some people say this benfits the farmers because of longer growing seasons but Winter comes at the same time every year it just isn't constantly 20's 30's, it's like half the week 20-30 degrees then it becomes like 50 for the next half and they randomly swap, it used to be rare in Missouri for winter to go over 50 degrees in my area.This year it happened almost every week.Nothing you can do it about it friend. Every attempt to curb the effects are negligible at this point. It's going to be like this for the rest of our lives.
My advice would be to just get as much as you can out of it now. We are fragile creatures that turn into savage monsters when desperate. Blame will be tossed around like a hot iron and nothing will be done. This isn't an isolated event that only effects certain people, the problems will most likely go global. Purely from experience I can tell you this; human beings are NOT good or rational when left unsatisfied. That is our greatest biological failing and perhaps the inevitable fate of all intelligent life, to self destruct in the face of void.
While on the topic of climate change 1.3 degrees is a pretty big deal and thinking otherwise is frankly dumb.
Here in Belgium there are a lot of incidents with attempts to do suicide. A lot of younger people too. Reason being here is that schools in Belgium do very little to actually help the victims who are being bullied at school. I think if schools actually teached us in a good way on how to live with each other in peace as well as how to manage money in a smart way, that it would be a good start here. I have a friend who is depressed and that’s because of the reason I stated earlier in my post. Also like stated earlier on this page, employers just ask for more and more these days. Good isn’t good enough anymore. If you did not study well and you don’t have your A2 Diploma you’re in pretty much deep shit. Also, if you want to rent an appartment here, you have to pay 700 euro’s each month I thought it was (water, electricity excluded). In 2019 the rates of suicide were very big, at least as far as I know.
And I doubt 2020 will bring any positive changes to this. It will get worse and worse I am afraid.