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Deadliest Warrior
« on: March 21, 2013, 02:10:19 pm »
I'm sure most (if not all) of you have heard of or seen this show. What are your opinions on its historical accuracy and the outcomes of some of the episodes?

Personally the two episodes I have a big problem with are the Napoleon vs Washington episode. That episode was entirely inaccurate, the only reason Washington won was because they didn't want to show Washington getting spanked on national television.

The other being the episode of the knight vs the pirate. This episode was ridiculous from the start, they put a medieval knight vs the weapons that made him extinct, it was horribly mismatched. However I do have to say that if a knight caught a pirate in melee, the pirate would be helpless unless he had a firearm at his disposal. And I would just like to point out that during the fight scene on that episode, the knight struck the pirate upwards of 3 times with a flail if I remember correctly.

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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 02:35:01 pm »
Deadliest warrior is 1% science and 99% showbusiness. That's all I got to say on the matter.

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 03:59:40 pm »
It was fun to watch but was complete bullshit imo.

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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 04:12:02 pm »
That show is for 11 year olds. Don't pain yourself over it. Napoleon would have beat Washington no doubt.

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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 04:31:23 pm »
Indeed, I've heard about that show and how incredibly accurate, and occasionally bias the show can be, Napoleon would've definitely beaten Washington.


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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 05:28:16 pm »
Also, the Waffen SS vs. Vietcong was a load of BS. The SS would've been smashed just like how the Americans had a tough time, except the SS have outdated weapons. xD

I have to agree on Pirate vs Knight and how rediculous the match-up was.

Never saw the newest ones with commanders and the mythical creatures.

My favorite one has to be the Green Berets vs Spetsnaz. Also, that was pretty sick when the SEAL tore up the ballistics body with his knife.
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 06:07:28 pm »
Joan of Arc.

Way better fighter than William the Conquerer.
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2013, 10:04:49 pm »
This show was a sham, a shame, and did more damage to the study of history than it did to increase it.
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2013, 10:14:54 pm »
My favorite one has to be the Green Berets vs Spetsnaz. Also, that was pretty sick when the SEAL tore up the ballistics body with his knife.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GgaNyyL9Mo[/youtube]

I doubt this man's special forces training.

Show me the manual where it says "When confronted by an enemy in close combat, wave your knife around his throat and scream 'WARARARARARARARARARARARA!'"
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 05:22:06 am »
Warararararara is actually very effective. You should try it some time.
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 05:38:20 am »
Ugh... I remember that I used to watch it, but I got sick of it pretty fast.

I mean, it's entertaining to watch from time to time, but the historical accuracy (or rather, the lack thereof) is pitiful.

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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 12:27:52 pm »
Aren't melee kills to be silent, quick, and effectness?

Like, stabbing one time in the neck or hearth? He goes for the belly, which is a painful and very slow death.
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2013, 12:54:09 pm »
Aren't melee kills to be silent, quick, and effectness?

Like, stabbing one time in the neck or hearth? He goes for the belly, which is a painful and very slow death.

If you stab the hearth, you will burn yourself....  :P

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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2013, 01:10:48 pm »
When killing with a knife, you never just go for one stab or cut, but the belly is probably a very bad idea. Striking major arteries and organs is what's generally taught, I believe.

A stab to the throat is also a bad idea if you're going for a silent kill, as the blood tends to bubble and make a gargling noise.
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Re: Deadliest Warrior
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2013, 02:07:01 pm »
I have a hand to hand combat field manual from the U.S. Military (got it from a surplus store) and it details silent kills in the section about removing sentries. In pretty much every single maneuver it says to induce shock before killing the opponent IE- hammering the hilt of the knife into the kidney, neck, or head, and then finishing with slicing the throat or stabbing vital organs in the chest. My favorite of these is the "Belgian Takedown" where you grab the target by the ankles and throw your shoulder into him. His face slams into the ground, inducing shock, and then you finish him with a strike to the groin or the back of the head.

But back on topic. There's a difference between trying to silently kill an opponent with a knife and actually engaging in hand to hand combat with knives. When it comes to hand to hand combat with knives it is dirty, fast, and vicious fighting that can come down to a single good strike. In such a scenario you want to try to use anything to your advantage, if you can intimidate your opponent by shouting like a madman then by all means you should do it. And if you can hit him with a strike to the throat then do it. Also, about striking the belly, they were trying to show the damage that the weapons can do to a human body moreso than trying to demonstrate their proper us.

And even more back on topic, what do you guys think of the match between Hannibal and Chinggis Khan? I thought it was an extremely unfair match given that it was a battle between bronze and steel.