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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Community => Topic started by: Furrnox on October 05, 2013, 11:59:34 pm
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I just wanted to officially apoligise to all of you dudes I should have made a Tavingtons Bankers or something like that thread and not include the 91st name.
My intention was not to offend any of you but to offend Tavington so I here by apoligise for my behavior.
Hopefully you can forgive me.
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Yu did the right fing bro :)
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Screw all the people who are talking shit about the 91st. I didn't even really know what the 91st was until today. All I knew was it was lead by Tavington who is a douche. I can't speak for the rest of the officers, but I'm sure that the rest of the regiment are good people who have nothing to do with all this recent bullshit.
To be clear, though, so far I've only seen posts condemning the ridicule of the ex-91st members. I've only seen one slanderous comment and that was in the original expose thread. Is this because all the hateful posts are being cleansed by moderators and admins? Or is there a sensationalization of the hate going on here and most of it is not actually real?
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Nah, people are just shutting up finally.
Still, a ton of ex-91st aren't being treated well. I guy I know has been getting insulted in-game, it's really sickening.
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I forgive you
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I apologize as well, since my original one was buried beneath spam.
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This forum is so bipolar...
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This forum is so bipolar...
I don't think you understand the meaning of bipolarity.
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Lol.
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Nah, people are just shutting up finally.
If only that were true.
Just because you don't like the person or the community at large dislikes the person does not exempt you from the forum rules, many people learned this tonight.
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I think some people take this game too seriously if they seriously get offended by people insulting the 91st
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No offense, but shouldn't this be something that should be handled through PM's or through steam?
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I think some people take this game too seriously if they seriously get offended by people insulting the 91st
Of course a 91st member will feel insulted if people celebrate their demise... If all their work has gone down the drain and people now ridicule them. If you stuck to a regiment for 2 years and contributed to it becoming huge and now it disbands and everyone just trash talks what you helped form, you will feel bad.
Anyways, I personally accept your apology Furrnox.
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Well said Jackie, well said.
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If this makes sense the 91st was like that jock in school who is full of himself, although people didn't like him, he was a huge part of the team and it's hard to imagine what you would do without him. It both saddens me and gives me satisfaction since Tavington finally got a big fat slap from karma for all crap he would give people, constant insults, and bickering but it will also displace a lot of very talented people in the EU community.
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If this makes sense the 91st was like that jock in school who is full of himself, although people didn't like him, he was a huge part of the team and it's hard to imagine what you would do without him. It both saddens me and gives me satisfaction since Tavington finally got a big fat slap from karma for all crap he would give people, constant insults, and bickering but it will also displace a lot of very talented people in the EU community.
tavington should have just stepped down (and the people who where in on it as well). He should have financed the servers for the regiment till they got a new host and were reorganiced.
In my oppinion he chose the most cowardly way out by disbanding the regiment and kicking every1 out ( u cant tell me that with over 100 members the 91st had they couldnt pull off a new regimental leadership if they were given the time).
In the end its a shame that the 91st had to end like this.
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This is an apology thread, not another excuse to discuss the whole 91st tirade. Please keep posts on topic.
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Thanks.
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just stop hating on 91st, it wasnt them that did anything it was ther leader
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wait ... 91st disband? :o :(
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wait ... 91st disband? :o :(
Yes
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
First off, I don't know any NA ppl that wished to join 91st.
and second, Nobody liked Tavington so im sure many EU ppl wouldn't consider it.
But yes, The largest NW Regiment is Gone :(
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
First off, I don't know any NA ppl that wished to join 91st.
and second, Nobody liked Tavington so im sure many EU ppl wouldn't consider it.
But yes, The largest NW Regiment is Gone :(
A large number of people have been in the 91st and lots of them NA too. I could list quite a few. So yes, maybe less popular amongst NA but still known.
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
But it wasn't the biggest regiment........
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
But it wasn't the biggest regiment........
77y I suppose?
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
But it wasn't the biggest regiment........
77y I suppose?
Yeah, and the 33rd. I am sure those 2 were bigger
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People should actually think about, the biggest NW regiment disbanded. The 91st held so many community events, like tournaments. Allmost everyone in this community, has thought about joining the 91st. The 91st is one of the longest standing regiments.
But it wasn't the biggest regiment........
77y I suppose?
Yeah, and the 33rd. I am sure those 2 were bigger
Agreed.
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Its ok Furrnox. :'(
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m4qsyuc8jb1rn95k2o1_250.gif&hash=cf96553c303a24b30472660a68dce228aa5a13dd)
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I forgive you Furrnox and anyone else.
Well said Jackie, I didn't know what happened until I saw on the forums on the 91st website about it being disbanded. To be honest I was going to leave a while ago but thought about it and loved being apart of such amazing regiment. Tav did a good job leading the company but I wish he wasn't arrogant etc. During my time being in the community, recording the 91st events, or random videos in which I be uploading the final video of the 91st in action which wasn't the best performance.
I'm not sure what to do or who to join next unless the 91st gets reformed in the future. It was disrespectful to hear what the whole community were acting. Keep in mind that some people do have feelings about their regiment. I know it's just a game (big deal) but like Jackie, and I know a few members who put so much effort into making their regiment better etc. Have all of my credit for their hard work and always have my respect. I did meet great friends and I hope we all stay in touch ;D
Sorry for the rant lol.
I'm proud ex-member of the 91st as a LCpl (1 year and 10 months service)
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Jackie, this is sad. It disbanded while you were gone :(
Btw, NuttyPig, why do you have to comment on Tavington all the time? You are like a little child, trying to insult a higher ranked person in the community, to feel good.
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Jackie, this is sad. It disbanded while you were gone :(
Btw, NuttyPig, why do you have to comment on Tavington all the time? You are like a little child, trying to insult a higher ranked person in the community, to feel good.
I didnt comment on Tav, I commented on the size of the regiment you fuck wit
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You have commented on Tav before. Before this 91st disbandment, and a lot more after it. Give him some respect.
Try to show to the community, that you are not a douchebag. Try to help your reputation.
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You have commented on Tav before. Before this 91st disbandment, and a lot more after it. Give him some respect.
Try to show to the community, that you are not a douchebag. Try to help your reputation.
I would like you to show my comments.
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Well, last night you went into our teamspeak, and trolled. We gave you MULTIPLE warnings, that you should fuck off. You decided to ignore them, and got permanently banned. Again.
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Jackie, this is sad. It disbanded while you were gone :(
Btw, NuttyPig, why do you have to comment on Tavington all the time? You are like a little child, trying to insult a higher ranked person in the community, to feel good.
trying to insult a higher ranked person in the community
higher ranked person
Are you for real?
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Well, last night you went into our teamspeak, and trolled. We gave you MULTIPLE warnings, that you should fuck off. You decided to ignore them, and got permanently banned. Again.
Problem. I am only temp banned. And I have never been perm banned from your TS.
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Well, after all. I am speaking about Tavington. Tavington was more known, and more respected than The Nutty Pig has ever been. Which makes him Higher Ranked.
Nutty Pig, you are not worth to discuss with.
Just try to make up for things you have done?
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no, hes for real tavs lapdog soo..
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Nice making new accounts to stay hidden. Show your face coward.
I am not getting told to post this, I do this, because I ( ME ) think, that Tavington does not deserve this.
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Well, after all. I am speaking about Tavington. Tavington was more known, and more respected than The Nutty Pig has ever been. Which makes him Higher Ranked.
Nutty Pig, you are not worth to discuss with.
Just try to make up for things you have done?
Sorry. I apologise for all the racist things I have sprouted to other members of the NW community, I apologise to the NA community for calling them 'Damn Colonials'. I apologise for banning people from my servers just because they are in a regiment I don't like. I apologise for being a Nazi. Oh no wait a minute, these are all the things tav has done. ;D
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Well, after all. I am speaking about Tavington. Tavington was more known, and more respected than The Nutty Pig has ever been. Which makes him Higher Ranked.
Nutty Pig, you are not worth to discuss with.
Just try to make up for things you have done?
First of all, stop acting like you are some sort of higher being. Secondly, Nutty pig is a bit of a twat, yes. But did he rule over his regiment like a dictator and stole money from them? No. I don't think so. And above that, Tavington repeatedly insulted and threaten people just for hurting his ego.
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Phoniex, you're still trying to defend Tavington and the 91st, stop it mate. :)
It's no point.
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Duuring, like I said, I am not a "Higher" ranked person in the community, I am a lower ranked one. I am not very well known, or anything. I still have an opinion.
But I don't like people talking trash about Tavington, because he did, what he did.
Nutty Pig Is just a troll, nothing less.
I personally has nothing against him or his personality, but I dont like his way of reacting to this.
Gokiiiiii, I am speaking my opinion, and if you call that defending Tavington, then call it that :P
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Duuring, like I said, I am not a "Higher" ranked person in the community, I am a lower ranked one.
I don't think your opinion on people decides their 'rank' on the social ladder of this game community. In fact, I think, nobody gives a shit.
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You are commenting on every single post that is pointed against the 91st. I'm unsure what they call that where you life but I'm pretty sure that's the same as trying to defend something.
If you want this shitstorm to go by, then stop provoking it. You are only allowing it to be continued.
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just ignore this troll. hes either as arrogant as tav was or ignorant as hell. either way ,as he said above, he'll drag you down to his level.
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Like Jackie said : " I have lost a lot of respect, for a lot of people in this community "
I am posting, because I don't like not 1 single person talking against the crowd in this.
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just ignore this troll. hes either as arrogant as tav was or ignorant as hell. either way ,as he said above, he'll drag you down to his level.
Just stop, your grammar is even worse than mine.
I am not the troll in this situation. I never said, I would drag anyone to my level? I have no need to that, but I do like arguering.
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What exactly are you trying to prove here then?
Also, don't double post. ;)
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well this is deep :P I find the talk of reputation and all the build up and rubbish that this community creates hilarious
please do continue so I can laugh more
In 1 week no one will give a toss that tav is gone so gg to the most hated guy in the community. He lied to his members and stole there money, meh he deserves all the abuse he gets, sure he led an amazing regiment (with alot of cool guys) but to actually steal from it?
thats low
now plz continue to bitch about how "tavington is getting so abused" whilst he runs off making around 1000 euros profit, but picking on nutty for voicing the opinion of a large majority of the community, meh grow up. If you don't like reading all the hate stay off the forums for a day or 2
To anyone else reading, please remember the actual members in the 91st are mostly nice guys it was just tavington himself ;)
If possible please lock the thread =)
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Who are you to lock the thread? :P
Then laugh, but if you were acused of stealing, and other things, I dont think you would be happy.
Nobody has yet proven, that Tavington actually did steal. Only half proofs. There is no proof, that has made me believe it a 100% yet.
So stop assuming that.
But Yea, Lock the thread.
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Who are you to lock the thread? :P
Then laugh, but if you were acused of stealing, and other things, I dont think you would be happy.
Nobody has yet proven, that Tavington actually did steal. Only half proofs. There is no proof, that has made me believe it a 100% yet.
So stop assuming that.
But Yea, Lock the thread.
He told me on steam that he stole the money.
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no its not a proof nutty, it cant be, tav is an angel ... a nazi one lel
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There is no proof
He wouldn't disband his fucking regiment if it wasn't true.
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There is no proof
He wouldn't disband his fucking regiment if it wasn't true.
May I ask you, if you would keep on leading a regiment, where people thought you were stealing money? That is a great burden to have.
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There is no proof
He wouldn't disband his fucking regiment if it wasn't true.
May I ask you, if you would keep on leading a regiment, where people thought you were stealing money? That is a great burden to have.
It is the NW equivalent of running away from the police, like it or not.
#InnocentColonelsDon'tDisbandOnRumours
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If respect is to be lost here it's that of the some of the 91st members, who were willing to donate money to someone that believes anyone who is not white is 'sub-human'.
I respect the fact he was a good leader and people are mocking you and all that jazz, but some of the 91st members gave money to a nationalist that I remember mocked the holocaust and started 'bantering' with a German about being a 'Nationalsozialismus'. Tavington should have been boycotted long ago, and it shouldn't have taken a massive scandal such as his fraud for people to come to terms with that.
For that reason, there shouldn't be an apology to the 91st members, for there has been much hypocrisy at work here.
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If respect is to be lost here it's that of the some of the 91st members, who were willing to donate money to someone that believes anyone who is not white is 'sub-human'.
I respect the fact he was a good leader and people are mocking you and all that jazz, but some of the 91st members gave money to a nationalist that I remember mocked the holocaust and started 'bantering' with a German about being a 'Nationalsozialismus'. Tavington should have been boycotted long ago, and it shouldn't have taken a massive scandal such as his fraud for people to come to terms with that.
For that reason, there shouldn't be an apology to the 91st members, for there has been much hypocrisy at work here.
Because we're dealing with 50 year old influential politicians here and not 18 year olds playing videogames...
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If respect is to be lost here it's that of the some of the 91st members, who were willing to donate money to someone that believes anyone who is not white is 'sub-human'.
I respect the fact he was a good leader and people are mocking you and all that jazz, but some of the 91st members gave money to a nationalist that I remember mocked the holocaust and started 'bantering' with a German about being a 'Nationalsozialismus'. Tavington should have been boycotted long ago, and it shouldn't have taken a massive scandal such as his fraud for people to come to terms with that.
For that reason, there shouldn't be an apology to the 91st members, for there has been much hypocrisy at work here.
Because we're dealing with 50 year old influential politicians here and not 18 year olds playing videogames...
Regardless, his views of which he was very open about were disgusting, and people gave him money.
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Because we're dealing with 50 year old influential politicians here and not 18 year olds playing videogames...
Perhaps some of us like immersion Evanovic.
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I would also like to apologise to any ex- 91st member I have ever offended in the past, well, most of them.
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If respect is to be lost here it's that of the some of the 91st members, who were willing to donate money to someone that believes anyone who is not white is 'sub-human'.
I respect the fact he was a good leader and people are mocking you and all that jazz, but some of the 91st members gave money to a nationalist that I remember mocked the holocaust and started 'bantering' with a German about being a 'Nationalsozialismus'. Tavington should have been boycotted long ago, and it shouldn't have taken a massive scandal such as his fraud for people to come to terms with that.
For that reason, there shouldn't be an apology to the 91st members, for there has been much hypocrisy at work here.
Donations were not solely for Tavington. People donated to the regiment to show their devotion and enjoyment of the regiment on a whole. Keeping aside this whole thing of Tav pocketing leftover money, money that was donated did in fact go to the running of the serverbox which kept our servers and TS up for the community of the 91st. Tav payed the serverbox himself many times off his own money too when nobody donated.
Fair enough you don't like Tav's personal views on certain things, but you clearly don't truly understand why people donated in the first place.
Anyway, on the topic of the OP, I'd like to say that I did not like seeing all the threads that were opened up that included the whole 91st. However, thank you for the apology.
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As I have said many times . . . .
We should wait until we have heard both sides of the argument.
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You have to realise Tav made a financial loss on the regiment overall. Yes, he may have kept some of the excess donations, but over the years he has usually been the one paying for the serverbox solely, and he's the one who paid the big set-up costs in the beginning. Not even to mention the amount of time he set aside to the regiment. This wasn't malicious embezzlement. The main reason it led to the disbanding of the regiment was the break down of trust between him and members.
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You have to realise Tav made a financial loss on the regiment overall. Yes, he may have kept some of the excess donations, but over the years he has usually been the one paying for the serverbox solely, and he's the one who paid the big set-up costs in the beginning. Not even to mention the amount of time he set aside to the regiment.
Any colonel who ever leads a regiment, with the idea he will not end up paying for it, is wrong.
Two years without asking for a single donation.
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You have to realise Tav made a financial loss on the regiment overall. Yes, he may have kept some of the excess donations, but over the years he has usually been the one paying for the serverbox solely, and he's the one who paid the big set-up costs in the beginning. Not even to mention the amount of time he set aside to the regiment. This wasn't malicious embezzlement. The main reason it led to the disbanding of the regiment was the break down of trust between him and members.
That may be true, and of course, hosting servers and the teamspeak isn't cheap. However, in my mind then comes up. He could have told you lads and be honest? Then this would probly never happened.
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Any colonel who ever leads a regiment, with the idea he will not end up paying for it, is wrong.
This is where you're wrong. If he said 'donate to the serverbox if you feel like supporting the regiment' - the regiment that Tav funds, this means that donating inadvertedly supports Tav. And why would anyone feel that's wrong? By donating to Tav you donated to the regiment. It's just that he completely mishandled it with his members.
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You have to realise Tav made a financial loss on the regiment overall. Yes, he may have kept some of the excess donations, but over the years he has usually been the one paying for the serverbox solely, and he's the one who paid the big set-up costs in the beginning. Not even to mention the amount of time he set aside to the regiment. This wasn't malicious embezzlement. The main reason it led to the disbanding of the regiment was the break down of trust between him and members.
Why does it feel like you're defending him? Can't he speak for himself? Or is that troll still banned?
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Tav often told us about how much he had to spend on keeping the server going. It was plain obvious that donations were there to help him help the regiment. Hard to realise why people don't get that. It was not malicious embezzling like some people have painted it. The reason why the regiment disbanded over it was because of that notion being propagated through the 91st ranks and the break down of trust when Tav's panicked forged documents came to light. There was no malice here, at worst it was financial and PR incompetence.
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You have to realise Tav made a financial loss on the regiment overall. Yes, he may have kept some of the excess donations, but over the years he has usually been the one paying for the serverbox solely, and he's the one who paid the big set-up costs in the beginning. Not even to mention the amount of time he set aside to the regiment. This wasn't malicious embezzlement. The main reason it led to the disbanding of the regiment was the break down of trust between him and members.
Why does it feel like you're defending him? Can't he speak for himself? Or is that troll still banned?
Do not get angry at someone because they have a different mindset on a situation then you. You're clearly trying to start an argument and completely ignoring the topic of this thread.
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You have to realise Tav made a financial loss on the regiment overall. Yes, he may have kept some of the excess donations, but over the years he has usually been the one paying for the serverbox solely, and he's the one who paid the big set-up costs in the beginning. Not even to mention the amount of time he set aside to the regiment. This wasn't malicious embezzlement. The main reason it led to the disbanding of the regiment was the break down of trust between him and members.
Why does it feel like you're defending him? Can't he speak for himself? Or is that troll still banned?
Do not get angry at someone because they have a different mindset on a situation then you. You're clearly trying to start an argument and completely ignoring the topic of this thread.
I never get angry. It was three simple questions, which he seem unable to answer anyway. Might just go do some running instead, after all its a beautiful day today :-*
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Stop trying to stir things up, this is just a thread apologising to 91st members, nothing more.
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Nice PR bro ;)
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Please people keep on topic.
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Please people keep on topic.
This got off topic on page 2-3 ish,
look both sides clearly have different view points ^^ please rap it up or take it to pm's this is turning into a joke
You are all nubs.
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Problem. I am only temp banned. And I have never been perm banned from your TS.
If you have such a fucking problem with the 91st and Tav then stop coming into our teamspeak.
Phoniex, you're still trying to defend Tavington and the 91st, stop it mate. :)
It's no point.
Why shouldn't he? If the whole of the community was attacking your regiment, would you not defend it?
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All right, that's enough. If none of you can read a simple instruction:
This is an apology thread, not another excuse to discuss the whole 91st tirade. Please keep posts on topic.
Then this thread will be locked.