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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | Players completed
« Reply #600 on: February 13, 2024, 11:42:12 am »
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Late 2021 - 2022 was the greatest period of melee in this god-given game's history.

The highest mechanical peaks and the greatest tactical team metas were all achieved in 2022.

Any year before would get absolutely destroyed and smoked by the 2022 dream team. This is an objective fact.

Old gens cope and seethe.

Q.E.D

2022 Superiority

This is really true, these retards like drake who havent learned how to release their stab in their decade of playing the game should realise theyre fucking dogshit. FrenchTouch doesnt compare to any newer top team, theyre fucking ass. Pussies like Impact B team could beat FrenchTouch.

that rude.

Frenchtouch is not only a GF team bro. The actual meta or 2020-2021 mata is created by FrenchTouch in 2015 and French national team to M-NWWC 2015. Only actif players in 2014-2016 know that. Moreover Frenchtouch was not a stack of players like big team of 2019-2024. We were a group of friends with 90% of no name in 2015 and we played during 3-4 years together and the only issue to beat us was to bring a big EU stack or only host 7V7 and 8V8 tournament. Despite this we still won with SharZ or Gandalf to be able to play the big forma tournament.


Frenchtouch is the only team with 99% of their member with the same nationality to dominate the competitive scene during some years.

Frenchtouch is the only team to won a 1v1-8V8 tournament and lead some tournament like NWWC or RGL-RGT.

Drake the pattern master is maybe now a dangerous unbalanced person but no one could beat him in 2015-2017 and in duel still in 2024 i think.

Just remember we are a iconic team and the best team of all time with LeBrave Drake extazz and Peponi, vade, SharZ, Gandalf, Maharball 90ping, Clickenforce, Owwid, fotin AND fwuffy muha at the end of FT far from big stack of 2019-2023.

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Mr lebrave, No one said frenchtouch wasn't a good team for its era or whether they accomplished a lot RELATIVE to their ERA but on absolute SKILL of melee.

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The actual meta or 2020-2021 mata is created by FrenchTouch in 2015 and French national team to M-NWWC 2015. Only actif players in 2014-2016 know that.

LOL People could barely block in 2015 and relied on ranging. 2021 was much different in regards to pushing and systemic use of blocking to create opportunities in melee. Watch any video of Frenchtouch from the past to realise this is an autistic point

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Drake the pattern master is maybe now a dangerous unbalanced person but no one could beat him in 2015-2017 and in duel still in 2024 i think.

The module is dead in 2024. He ruined dueling on EU by avoiding playing the game and abusing the shitty flaws of the melee system, resulting in the EU meta to be dogshit overall. He has also lost FT7s to Anthony (NA player), Zeyden outside of tournaments and also in tournaments.



Prime FrenchTouch would smoke every team created afterwards

ik its a low tier bait by a kid and everyone knows it but had to point it out

No it wouldn't LOL. Prime envy or Prime RT vs Prime french touch. They'd get stomped. Skill evolved too much, Delusion to think otherwise.

sry no more cringeposting

Sup, it's drek.

I don't usually post, but once again a british guy  spread fake news.

I just want to refresh anyone with the latest and safest news they can possibly fetch in the fact that this dude is infact the biggest cancer since the time of HoKej, he cancered so much that it was even a high gesture of diligence to continue playing against him with reasonable intent to win the normal way, it would have simply taken me or extazz to stop pressing agressively Z to effectively stop the match, More disturbing is he is somewhat of a pathological liar as he would claim to cancer against cancer while ExTaZZ94 assaulted him more forcefuly than a panther tank during the eastern front and he still cancered to ultimate autism with the constant downstab backpeddle against a guy who showed maximum commitment to healthy duel practices.

The reality is this guy has no talent and invented some disturbing scheme that can be effectively be  called abusing and exploiting the game mechanics. By which level of psychological trouble he must be affected to accuse others of hiw own toxicity, that's a question for a licensed psychiatrist.

He also enter in a category we've seen multiple time of big mouthed guy who invent narrative after they won once, never show up again, tell all their friends, even their grandma they beat some dude online. It was a christmas tournament, i hadn't played the game in month, and same for ExTaZz94.

Btw, Never lost to Anthony & Zey in tournament btw. Never lost FT7 to Zey, because never organized one.

Get a life man. If you got a problem in duel, we can settle in a proper FT7.


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Regarding FT, it wouldn't smoke all teams, it would be competitive in any era, especially with it's prime players, like Maharbaal and Fwuffy. Crossing eras is mostly undoable, but in my mind there's no reason to believe FT would go high favourite against Amaterasu/Envy, even in 5v5 it could very well lose. Also make sure to remember it's a 5v5 format team, and higher format would be played under All-Stars.
But what is certain is FT would be competitive, there wouldn't be "getting stomped" or any newgen bullshit, that's fake news again, please refrain for posting fake news about past players.
The mechanics of this game is the same since 2012, and every players who got good in the past  can do it again aslong as he trains himself back. It's investment question not a dumb era question.

Realistically 18 year old ppl in 2015, arent 75 in 2024.  ;)


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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #601 on: February 13, 2024, 11:47:13 am »
Fucking lil kid HiReaper trying to shittalk the pattern master smh
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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | Players completed
« Reply #602 on: February 13, 2024, 03:49:40 pm »

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« Reply #603 on: February 13, 2024, 03:56:58 pm »
Minimum IQ to post here is pig IQ

Hope you saved that post so you dont have to write it again
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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | Players completed
« Reply #604 on: February 13, 2024, 04:10:48 pm »
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Late 2021 - 2022 was the greatest period of melee in this god-given game's history.

The highest mechanical peaks and the greatest tactical team metas were all achieved in 2022.

Any year before would get absolutely destroyed and smoked by the 2022 dream team. This is an objective fact.

Old gens cope and seethe.

Q.E.D

2022 Superiority

This is really true, these retards like drake who havent learned how to release their stab in their decade of playing the game should realise theyre fucking dogshit. FrenchTouch doesnt compare to any newer top team, theyre fucking ass. Pussies like Impact B team could beat FrenchTouch.

that rude.

Frenchtouch is not only a GF team bro. The actual meta or 2020-2021 mata is created by FrenchTouch in 2015 and French national team to M-NWWC 2015. Only actif players in 2014-2016 know that. Moreover Frenchtouch was not a stack of players like big team of 2019-2024. We were a group of friends with 90% of no name in 2015 and we played during 3-4 years together and the only issue to beat us was to bring a big EU stack or only host 7V7 and 8V8 tournament. Despite this we still won with SharZ or Gandalf to be able to play the big forma tournament.


Frenchtouch is the only team with 99% of their member with the same nationality to dominate the competitive scene during some years.

Frenchtouch is the only team to won a 1v1-8V8 tournament and lead some tournament like NWWC or RGL-RGT.

Drake the pattern master is maybe now a dangerous unbalanced person but no one could beat him in 2015-2017 and in duel still in 2024 i think.

Just remember we are a iconic team and the best team of all time with LeBrave Drake extazz and Peponi, vade, SharZ, Gandalf, Maharball 90ping, Clickenforce, Owwid, fotin AND fwuffy muha at the end of FT far from big stack of 2019-2023.

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Mr lebrave, No one said frenchtouch wasn't a good team for its era or whether they accomplished a lot RELATIVE to their ERA but on absolute SKILL of melee.

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The actual meta or 2020-2021 mata is created by FrenchTouch in 2015 and French national team to M-NWWC 2015. Only actif players in 2014-2016 know that.

LOL People could barely block in 2015 and relied on ranging. 2021 was much different in regards to pushing and systemic use of blocking to create opportunities in melee. Watch any video of Frenchtouch from the past to realise this is an autistic point

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Drake the pattern master is maybe now a dangerous unbalanced person but no one could beat him in 2015-2017 and in duel still in 2024 i think.

The module is dead in 2024. He ruined dueling on EU by avoiding playing the game and abusing the shitty flaws of the melee system, resulting in the EU meta to be dogshit overall. He has also lost FT7s to Anthony (NA player), Zeyden outside of tournaments and also in tournaments.



Prime FrenchTouch would smoke every team created afterwards

ik its a low tier bait by a kid and everyone knows it but had to point it out

No it wouldn't LOL. Prime envy or Prime RT vs Prime french touch. They'd get stomped. Skill evolved too much, Delusion to think otherwise.

sry no more cringeposting

Sup, it's drek.

I don't usually post, but once again a british guy  spread fake news.

I just want to refresh anyone with the latest and safest news they can possibly fetch in the fact that this dude is infact the biggest cancer since the time of HoKej, he cancered so much that it was even a high gesture of diligence to continue playing against him with reasonable intent to win the normal way, it would have simply taken me or extazz to stop pressing agressively Z to effectively stop the match, More disturbing is he is somewhat of a pathological liar as he would claim to cancer against cancer while ExTaZZ94 assaulted him more forcefuly than a panther tank during the eastern front and he still cancered to ultimate autism with the constant downstab backpeddle against a guy who showed maximum commitment to healthy duel practices.

The reality is this guy has no talent and invented some disturbing scheme that can be effectively be  called abusing and exploiting the game mechanics. By which level of psychological trouble he must be affected to accuse others of hiw own toxicity, that's a question for a licensed psychiatrist.

He also enter in a category we've seen multiple time of big mouthed guy who invent narrative after they won once, never show up again, tell all their friends, even their grandma they beat some dude online. It was a christmas tournament, i hadn't played the game in month, and same for ExTaZz94.

Btw, Never lost to Anthony & Zey in tournament btw. Never lost FT7 to Zey, because never organized one.

Get a life man. If you got a problem in duel, we can settle in a proper FT7.


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Regarding FT, it wouldn't smoke all teams, it would be competitive in any era, especially with it's prime players, like Maharbaal and Fwuffy. Crossing eras is mostly undoable, but in my mind there's no reason to believe FT would go high favourite against Amaterasu/Envy, even in 5v5 it could very well lose. Also make sure to remember it's a 5v5 format team, and higher format would be played under All-Stars.
But what is certain is FT would be competitive, there wouldn't be "getting stomped" or any newgen bullshit, that's fake news again, please refrain for posting fake news about past players.
The mechanics of this game is the same since 2012, and every players who got good in the past  can do it again aslong as he trains himself back. It's investment question not a dumb era question.

Realistically 18 year old ppl in 2015, arent 75 in 2024.  ;)
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Ahh finally triggered the great drek enough to respond.

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I just want to refresh anyone with the latest and safest news they can possibly fetch in the fact that this dude is infact the biggest cancer since the time of HoKej

I came in to the duel tournament with the primary objective of winning under the current ruleset and also with a similar mindset, to you, of not caring how my opponent plays in regards to their playstyle. I was a player who literally had 1 year of experience in Competitve. You got destroyed and your playstyle had many flaws which you still seem to cry about, despite the fact you deliberately avoid playing the game through dkeying and only going for the stun chambers which became the meta on EU through time. I simply avoided all of that with basic holds which seems to trigger you still.

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he cancered so much that it was even a high gesture of diligence

Like anyone who played against you in the past? Complete disillusion and delusion again to think that I simply didn't want to win like you did versus any opponent you had in the past. You simply lost patience (A great skill according to you, right?)

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invented some disturbing scheme that can be effectively be  called abusing and exploiting the game mechanics

Your lack of understanding of the game mechanics and how they work in conjunction with other parts of the game is the reason why you lost along with why you never became a top GF player again after 2016. All I applied were basic holds to prevent you from stun chambering my stabs. Wow innovational.

Meanwhile, all you applied were running away from the opponent and then suddenly running into them when they least expect it for a W+A key stun chamber. Wow so big brain.

If we counted all the stabs hit on eachothers blocks in my duel vs you, I would definitely have the higher number by far. Putain! BRUTAL.

No wonder that NA dueling was far superior to EU.

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He also enter in a category we've seen multiple time of big mouthed guy who invent narrative after they won once, never show up again, tell all their friends, even their grandma they beat some dude online.

Is this projection from daddy drake? I never mentioned that tournament again apart from making a video on it and only when OTHER people brought it up. Its fine to be insecure about losing but to mention this is a really strange point?

You spent over an HOUR in our FT7 and you lost. To pretend you weren't tryharding is complete cope as well as your playstyle being so basic that it doesn't take long for your skill in it to come back into fruition.

Not to mention the fact, there really weren't any top tier duelists apart from you, extazz, zeyden who could really compete with you, so you didn't really have to learn too much did you?

Also, thanks for spamming me with multiple requests from you and your minions to FT7 you again haha, but I simply don't want to be injected with a brain melting amoeba again. Thanks
 
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Btw, Never lost to Anthony & Zey in tournament btw. Never lost FT7 to Zey, because never organized one.

I also said outside of tournaments. I thought Zeyden uploaded a video of him beating you but apologies if untrue.

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Get a life man. If you got a problem in duel, we can settle in a proper FT7.

How old are you now? You got triggered from a post on fse. I'm sorry for being a little vitriolic in the quote of you, but you just went on a retarded tirade right now with your post.

I like how you added the FT7 part. How debilitating was that loss was for you? Why am I still rent free in your head.

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But what is certain is FT would be competitive, there wouldn't be "getting stomped" or any newgen bullshit, that's fake news again,

Is that why any french touch player (apart from extazz obviously) who continued actively playing never reached a top 10 placement ever 2019 onwards? Again on absolute skill, Frenchtouch would get stomped.
It only takes a second of watching a video of French touch to realise they don't have the team cohesion required to avoid getting 10-0d by any mid tier or top tier team.

Again this is true for any game of past vs new. I never said FrenchTouch didn't do good for its era. However, to compare skill is mind numbingly dumb, they would lose to any team past 2020.

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every players who got good in the past  can do it again aslong as he trains himself back

Less true than you might think. All we have to do is look at yourself who never went back to his original top rank and was always a mediocre player despite you playing the game very actively at certain points.

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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #605 on: February 13, 2024, 04:11:55 pm »
Wursti showing his insecurities lmao
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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | Players completed
« Reply #606 on: February 13, 2024, 04:13:35 pm »

thats why tony is the goat

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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #607 on: February 13, 2024, 06:20:01 pm »
lebrave just posted something dumb cause it's lebrave, of course FrenchTouch or any teams from 2016 wouldn't be a high-favorite with thoses new-gen top-tier team, let's imagine the game was still as active as it was in 2020 but now it's 2027 and everyone of Amaterasu/Envy have retired i don't think we would be able to compete with thoses new gens from 2027 lol.  It's like comparing pelé and ronaldo, pointless to compare those teams like that. We have to compare them based on what they accomplished on their era, and in that case FrenchTouch is indeed the best team of all-time, pointless to compare them skill-wise.


Also i think it's dumb that you two are arguing about which one of you is the most cancerous and refuse to play the game, because i think you're wrong, you're exactly doing what the game allow you to do, and in that case you're both playing the game, you're playing like the engine allow you to, and if the engine allow you to do something, then the engine is to blame, not the guy using it. I'm personally not a fan of limiting one freedom with some rules that will prevent him to do what the engine allow him to, i had many discussions about thoses "anti-cancering rules" for duel tournament in the past with Anthony, we have never agreed on this honestly haha.


I think ExTaZz reacted the best about HiReaper, he understood where he came from, he maybe saw himself in him and congratulated him for winning against him and didn't feel his legacy as a duelist threaten by a loss in a tournament next to his many others victories lol, i think Drake should do the same, there's a part of me who wanted to see that rematch, i really do think Drake/ExtaZz weren't ready for the kind of knowledge/anti-meta strat HiReaper would bring to the table, now that they are aware i would love to see how it would go, but hey it's up to HiReaper, winning one duel tournament will not make you the best duelist of all-time but it'll make you the best duelist of the moment which HiReaper is, and if he's content with that then that's fine, he don't owe anyone a rematch :P


Let's not also forget that we new-gens are just products of the 2016/2017/2018 meta, we took everything and learn from them and basically pushed thoses GF mechanics such as ranging, dodging, even further, so i don't think this level of disrespect towards Drake or just old gen French top players some new-gens seems to have is fair lol.


now please stop this non-sense, Drake is the guy who trained me and to some extent influenced my playstyle, most of the thing i have taught to Reaper mostly come for Drake way of thinking, drake/anthony were the needle and we are the thread reaps, so the last thing i want to see is you both disrespecting each other  ;)

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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #608 on: February 13, 2024, 07:17:20 pm »
i posted nothing of stupid.

I just sayed Frenchtouch was not a big stack and we was a friends team at the start with a lot of no name in 2014-2015.

The actual meta or 2020+ is obsolutly not the same that the FT age but i sayed Frenchtouch is the first team to creat a real competitive meta in GF/tournament. However the actual meta is a lot similar but the skills of players are not the same with the help of technologies and improvement of computers.

however im still in 800x600 with a 10 euros mouse and a shit computers and still fuck you all.

after 2019 only extazz was in the top10 maybe but it's more easy to say that after  taking the actual top 10 and form a team to only win some tournament for free palmares.

Frenchtouch is  above all an history and yes i dont think we would be favorite agains envy or amaterasu etc actually.
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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #609 on: February 13, 2024, 07:36:24 pm »
weren't most people back then using 60hz monitors with a 5ms response time ? The hardware difference alone makes it impossible to compare teams from back then with teams that played during the lockdown. Also would have to take the 2018 patch into account which did affect melee quite a lot from what people have said but I can't verify myself.


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« Reply #610 on: February 13, 2024, 07:43:43 pm »
weren't most people back then using 60hz monitors with a 5ms response time ? The hardware difference alone makes it impossible to compare teams from back then with teams that played during the lockdown. Also would have to take the 2018 patch into account which did affect melee quite a lot from what people have said but I can't verify myself.

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« Reply #611 on: February 13, 2024, 08:22:09 pm »
weren't most people back then using 60hz monitors with a 5ms response time ? The hardware difference alone makes it impossible to compare teams from back then with teams that played during the lockdown. Also would have to take the 2018 patch into account which did affect melee quite a lot from what people have said but I can't verify myself.
again you show me your stupidity with your message , hardware difference will not give you any advantage , especially if you are playing against a player on the level of Zeyden and the difference in the level of teams then/now is not in the difference of devices , it is difference in metagame
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« Reply #612 on: February 13, 2024, 08:54:10 pm »
weren't most people back then using 60hz monitors with a 5ms response time ? The hardware difference alone makes it impossible to compare teams from back then with teams that played during the lockdown. Also would have to take the 2018 patch into account which did affect melee quite a lot from what people have said but I can't verify myself.
again you show me your stupidity with your message , hardware difference will not give you any advantage , especially if you are playing against a player on the level of Zeyden and the difference in the level of teams then/now is not in the difference of devices , it is difference in metagame

wtf broo can you use your brain 1min or maybe u use it to watch if someone is bombing your house ?

if the meta change it's because the playstyle of players change, if the skill and playstyle are not the same than in 2012 it's for 90% of the new advantages on computer.

We were not prehistoric men in 2012-2015 and we had the same brain just we played with 60 pings and -100 hertz.



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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #613 on: February 13, 2024, 09:41:09 pm »
weren't most people back then using 60hz monitors with a 5ms response time ? The hardware difference alone makes it impossible to compare teams from back then with teams that played during the lockdown. Also would have to take the 2018 patch into account which did affect melee quite a lot from what people have said but I can't verify myself.

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Re: Wursti's Statistics Thread | NWWC added
« Reply #614 on: February 13, 2024, 10:28:03 pm »
cuz ur one of the goats  ;D
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