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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #120 on: August 23, 2019, 01:09:27 am »
The one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.

It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).

I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.

I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.


I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.

Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)

I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.

Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.

Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).


Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6

CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.

Russian/Waste also too low, not getting credited properly.

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111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7

111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC

Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.

So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.

89.8 -  Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 -  Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 -  Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 -  Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 -  Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 -  Irish (6te)
83.0 -  Stox (54th)
82.7 -  Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 -  Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 -  PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)

82.2 -  Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 -  RussianFury/Waste (LG)

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The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.
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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2019, 01:15:50 am »
look at my epeen btw

Record 132-4-21
Groupfights

15-4 vs 32e WIN
20-8 vs 45e WIN
15-5 vs 32e WIN
15-9 vs 45e WIN
15-8 vs 63e WIN
15-8 vs 30thWIN
15-14 vs 63e WIN
15-10 vs 32e WIN
15-1 vs 32e WIN
20-11 vs 32e WIN
15-4 vs 1stSH WIN
15-5 vs 32e WIN
15-7 vs 63e WIN
15-13 vs 32e WIN
15-6 vs 32e WIN
12-15 vs 63e LOSS
15-5 vs 4eGren WIN
15-2 vs 32e WIN
15-12 vs 57th WIN
15-13 vs 3eVolt WIN
15-4 vs 32e WIN
6-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
13-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-1 vs USMC WIN
15-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-1 vs AEF WIN
20-8 vs 3eVolt WIN
15-11 vs 3eVolt WIN
15-3 vs 34e WIN
15-14 vs 41st WIN
15-9 vs 30th WIN
20-15 vs 34e WIN
13-15 vs 3eVolt LOSS
20-7 vs 34e WIN
11-9 vs 41st WIN
20-13 vs 41st WIN
19-25 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-10 vs 2pp WIN
15-12 vs 3eVolt WIN
5-20 vs 3eVolt LOSS
20-4 vs 63e WIN
20-2 vs 41st WIN
15-5 vs 63e WIN
15-7 Vs 3eVolt WIN
19-19 Vs 3eVolt  TIE
20-0 vs 63e WIN
20-5 vs 63e WIN
20-14 vs 63e WIN
20-10 vs 63e WIN
20-13 vs 63e WIN
20-7 vs 63e WIN
15-2 vs 39th WIN
15-0 vs 63e WIN
15-10 vs 3eVolt WIN
9-15 vs 3eVolt LOSS
15-10 vs 3eVolt WIN
14-20 vs 91st LOSS
20-9 vs 93rd WIN
20-5 vs 93rd WIN
15-2 vs 15e  WIN
15-4 vs HRE  WIN
15-5 vs 15e  WIN
15-13 vs 98e  WIN
15-10 vs 42nd WIN
20-18 vs 42nd WIN
10-15 vs 42nd LOSS
15-5 vs 42nd WIN
15-5 vs 42nd WIN
20-17 vs 42nd WIN
20-18 vs 42nd WIN
15-1 vs 42nd (20-5) WIN
20-9 vs 93rd WIN
6-15 vs 42nd LOSS
12-15 vs 42nd LOSS
15-1 vs 93rd WIN
15-8 vs 42nd WIN
15-8 vs 42nd WIN
15-13 vs 42nd WIN
20-9 vs 1erGren WIN
15-8 vs 1aSvea WIN
15-11 vs 1aSvea WIN
15-7 vs 1aSvea WIN
20-8 vs 1aSvea WIN
20-9 vs IB WIN
20-8 vs 6teSLR WIN
20-3 vs IB WIN
20-18 vs IB WIN
15-5 vs IB WIN
15-10 vs IB WIN
15-6 vs IB WIN
20-4 vs 5th WIN
15-4 vs IBWIN

1v1's

6-4 vs 30th WIN
2-8 vs Sil LOSS
5-5 vs USMC TIE
7-3 vs AEF WIN
4-6 vs 63e LOSS
9-1 vs 32e WIN
5-5 vs 45e TIE
4-6 vs 6teSLR LOSS
4-6 vs 4th LOSS
7-3 vs 41st WIN
8-2 vs AEF WIN
9-1 vs USMC WIN
8-2 vs 57th WIN
9-1 vs AEF WIN
9-1 vs 4eGren WIN
6-4 vs 32e WIN NANWL
9-1 vs 4th WIN NANWL
5-5 vs 30th TIE NANWL
8-2 vs AEF WIN
10-0 vs USMC WIN NANWL
6-4 vs 57th WIN NANWL
10-0 vs LIR WIN NANWL
1-9 vs 3eVolt LOSS
7-3 vs 45e WIN
3-7 vs 3eVolt LOSS
6-4 vs 30th WIN
3-7 vs 3eVolt LOSS
10-0 vs HMCF WIN
6-4 vs 85e WIN
8-2 vs 41st WIN
10-0 vs 39th WIN
10-0 vs 18e WIN
7-3 vs 63e WIN
10-0 26e WIN
10-0 Vth WIN
6-4 Vs 63e WIN
10-0 Vs 26e WIN
10-0 Vs 54th WIN
10-0 Vs 26e WIN
7-3 vs 3eVolt WIN [NAPL Final] #JusticeForRGL
9-1 vs 26e WIN
8-2 vs 91st WIN
6-4 Vs BGP WIN
8-2 vs LIR WIN
8-2 vs 42nd WIN
6-4 vs 42nd WIN
9-1 vs HRE WIN
10-0 vs 8thEPI WIN 
8-2 vs 15e WIN
6-4 vs 93rd WIN
5-6 vs 42nd LOSS
8-2 vs 65th_YR WIN
2-1 vs HRE SS WIN Regimental 1v1 Tournament
3-1 vs 1erGren WIN Regimental 1v1 Tournament
4-0 vs 6teSLR WIN Regimental 1v1 Tournament
6-4 vs1aSvea WIN
10-0 vs 1erGren WIN NANWL
9-1 vs 51st WIN
7-3 vs 1aSvea WIN NANWL
3-7 vs 6teSLR LOSS NANWL
9-1 vs LIR WIN NANWL
10-0 vs IB WIN NANWL
9-1 vs LIR WIN NANWL
7-3 vs IB WIN
8-2 vs 6teSLR WIN NANWL #S9CHAMPS
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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #122 on: August 23, 2019, 01:20:16 am »
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The one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.

It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).

I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.

I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.


I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.

Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)

I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.

Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.

Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).


Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6

CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.


Spoiler
111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7

111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC

Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.

So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.

89.8 -  Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 -  Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 -  Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 -  Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 -  Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 -  Irish (6te)
83.0 -  Stox (54th)
82.7 -  Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 -  Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 -  PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)

82.2 -  Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 -  RussianFury/Waste (LG)

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The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.
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I can almost swear I remember Nico losing very badly and stubbornly wanting to lead despite you being present. Then I recall you taking over and winning 2 of the last few rounds. However, I can't say for certain as it was so long ago and I played so many regiments it gets confusing sometimes when looking back on all the matches especially when several leaders led multiple different regiments at different times etc.

And yeah I was also wondering why there is a 5 point difference between Cheesey and Grim.


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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #123 on: August 23, 2019, 01:21:58 am »
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3

The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.

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« Reply #124 on: August 23, 2019, 01:22:59 am »
All the e-peens are out now. Now we can take turns docking! ;)


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« Reply #125 on: August 23, 2019, 01:28:21 am »
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The one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.

It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).

I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.

I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.


I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.

Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)

I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.

Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.

Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).


Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6

CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.


Spoiler
111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7

111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC

Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.

So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.

89.8 -  Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 -  Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 -  Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 -  Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 -  Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 -  Irish (6te)
83.0 -  Stox (54th)
82.7 -  Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 -  Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 -  PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)

82.2 -  Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 -  RussianFury/Waste (LG)

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The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.
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I can almost swear I remember Nico losing very badly and stubbornly wanting to lead despite you being present. Then I recall you taking over and winning 2 of the last few rounds. However, I can't say for certain as it was so long ago and I played so many regiments it gets confusing sometimes when looking back on all the matches especially when several leaders led multiple different regiments at different times etc.

And yeah I was also wondering why there is a 5 point difference between Cheesey and Grim.

Nah, if it happened pre-NWPC I wouldn't have even been in the regiment. But yeah, I get it.

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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #126 on: August 23, 2019, 01:39:41 am »
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3

The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.

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We could of won the league when we placed the 30th but Marso & Irish were too much of a pussy to charge 1 round.

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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #127 on: August 23, 2019, 01:42:23 am »
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3

The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.

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We could of won the league when we placed the 30th but Marso & Irish were too much of a pussy to charge 1 round.

Smh, are you trying to trigger my PTSD nick? lmfao

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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #128 on: August 23, 2019, 01:43:09 am »
Karth is somewhere on an Air Force base laughing at you peasants
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« Reply #129 on: August 23, 2019, 01:48:20 am »
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The one time I remember scrimming him they had Emo Celestia, Viper, Shinto and Godfried himself lol. And i am sure they had some other solid players. I think they were named 98e at the time? And the match was like 11v11 or so, it felt like playing a melee stack for my regiment lol. But yeah the point is he has very little time actually leading and building his own regiment which kind of lowers his overall accomplishment as an individual leader imo.

It was 9v11, we were called 16thCS. Emo and Viper have never been in my regiments, shinto wasn't even there for it. My line up for that 1v1 was CANMAN, Ninja, Mameframe (Irishman who had 236 ping that day), Thumper, Mother_Maria, Myself, Bauer, Godskeet, Mjtheko. We ended up winning 6-4 on 2 clutches, 1 from me, 1 from CANMAN (who was honestly atrocious at melee, especially when he first joined, as Shinto might remember).

I don't see how I have very little time leading and building my own regiments. Nr48KH/98e/16thCS was entirely built and lead by myself. I brought back 7 guys who hadn't played in over a year (myself included) and we barely lost to the reg that ended up winning TNWL pro-league, in the group stage. After that I spent a lot of time recruiting, training and unrusting. Doing regular scrims against 58e, the vast majority of which ended 4-6, except 1 2-8, and we managed 1 6-4 win as 16thCS. By the end of 98e in TNWL we averaged 20-25 guys. We did get toasted vs 71st and 18th though.

I'm not looking for credit for doing what every reg leader does...I'm just not sure why I'm getting treated like I didn't also do those things.


I don't credit Godfreid that much because tl;dr while he was a good leader he struggled to find major success with his own regiments, rather I feel he found more success as a leader joining and leading other (bigger) regiments. Also led against him a decent amount of times so it's a little opinion as well.
Like when? When did I struggle to find major success with my own regiments? And what do you consider major success? I never wanted to lower myself to playing in League 2, because I don't consider that a success, even winning it. As I've always said, coming in last place in league 1>winning league 2. Any time I've lead a regiment, I've led it in the most competitive setting available, and achieved as much as I believe the regiment could have.

Sure but it's also his job as leader to train them into better players and succeed regardless of circumstance. I feel he was recognized for his leadership more after the 98e when he was able to use good melee players to his advantage. Even during our TNWL match the 98e had a significant advantage over us in melee and we basically tied (I say basically because of shoddy refereeing)

I trained my guys to a level that you felt we held a significant melee advantage, and Marceaux felt like he was playing against a stack, when in reality I had like 99% no-names. But you don't feel I deserve credit for that. Almost all of the good melee players in the 4th during S6, were players I brought and trained (either there or previously in 98e), or Rex brought from the 80th. I did regular training's to work on Chemistry (which was a huge issue) and individual skill (which was also a pretty big issue generally). With that we managed to get 3rd place behind 3eVolt and 63e, and we even did better against 3eVolt in the playoffs than 63e did.

Idk, you guys act like I just show up, flex my bayonet, get handed a rank and profit. When that's just not and never has been the case.

Now, I genuinely do not care even a little about where I'm placed on this list, and absolutely none of this is a case to increase my rank. But, the things I've quoted I've found particularly irksome (minus the bit at the top regarding the 1v1, that was just a correction).


Grim should most definitely be a 90
-Lead the only regiment capable of realistically competing against the 12th, and the only regiment to beat them, twice.
-PIONEERED the reverse column (never forget)
-TNWL S1 run
-Won NANWL S6

CheeseyPants is also way too low. He should at least be high 80's, not mid 80's.


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111e
Wins = 20 Loses = 4 Ties = 7

111e 6 - 5 MoskovGren W
111e 7 - 3 35th W
111e 7 - 3 1erGren W
111e 6 - 5 33e W
111e 10 - 0 1erGren W
111e 5 - 5 3eVolt T
111e 7 - 3 3DM W
111e 4 - 6 USMC L NWL
111e 7 - 3 87th W NWL
111e 5 - 5 3DM T NWL
111e 3 - 7 15e L
111e 7 - 3 4teSLR W NWL
111e 1 - 9 Nr.7 L NWL
111e 5 - 5 22e T NWL
111e 5 - 5 Nr.7 T
111e 6 - 4 Nr.9 W NWL
111e 6 - 4 PSG W NWL
111e 9 - 1 80th W
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 7 - 3 45e W
111e 6 - 4 8th W
111e 7 - 3 2ySG W
111e 6 - 4 63e W
111e 5 - 5 PSG T
111e 8 - 2 4th W
111e 6 - 4 Nr.52 W
111e 6 - 4 30th W
111e 7 - 3 34e W NWPC
111e 5 - 5 58e T
111e 4 - 6 71st L
111e 7 - 3 1stRI W NWPC

Beat the 63e led by Karth, tied the 3eVolt led by Grim, beat and tied the PSG led by StJohn. Beat the 30th led by Panda. Tied 58e led by AsianP also beat them when led by others. Also beat Moskov Gren led by Ody. And i beat the 4th quite badly and Godfried was 2iC, to be fair he only led half of the map. All of which were declared official 1v1's or league matches no scrim b.s. I also have screens from just about all of those 1v1's if not videos.

So how exactly does Panda-Wind/StJohn/Ody/Stox and Godfried end up above me? Stox especially seems out of place as the 54th did way less 1v1's then most of the aforementioned regiments and their leaders. I also don't understand how Russian And Waste are lower then the guys I just mentioned as well. They had a melee stack for sure but they were still able to lead at a very high level.

89.8 -  Grimsight (3eVolt)
85.7 -  Zorkoth (12th)
85.5 -  Cheeseypants (71st)
84.0 -  Alexander (5th/75th)
83.7 -  Ody (MoskovGren)
83.5 -  Irish (6te)
83.0 -  Stox (54th)
82.7 -  Knight of St John (PSG)
82.7 -  Godfreid (98e/4th)
82.3 -  PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)

82.2 -  Marceaux (111e/84e)
82.2 -  RussianFury/Waste (LG)

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The only time you beat the 4th when I was in it, was with the 6te, and we were both 2IC's during that 1v1. The 8-2 you have against the 4th I don't think I was even in the 4th during that, and certainly wasn't 2IC during that (Jorsonner or Naga would have been). I joined 4th after 16thCS fell apart early in NWPC and played for 4th for the remainder of NWPC until they disbanded in NANWL then joined 71st, but I wasn't a leader.
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I can almost swear I remember Nico losing very badly and stubbornly wanting to lead despite you being present. Then I recall you taking over and winning 2 of the last few rounds. However, I can't say for certain as it was so long ago and I played so many regiments it gets confusing sometimes when looking back on all the matches especially when several leaders led multiple different regiments at different times etc.

And yeah I was also wondering why there is a 5 point difference between Cheesey and Grim.

Nah, if it happened pre-NWPC I wouldn't have even been in the regiment. But yeah, I get it.

Yeah, that match was right before the start of NWPC so I might just be confused as the timings are so close, and may be mistaken sorry. And please don't think I was discrediting your leadership or success. As I said many times now, you should of been raised and are a very good leader.

And my personal opinion as to why I feel I should be slightly above you on this list is because your leadership was kind of spread out and so fragmented between different regiments and time frames that it kind of lowers the overall level of your accomplishments as a regiment leader and 1iC imo, however do not interpret that as me saying you have less skill than anyone on this list, just simply that you didn't show it as much or never really had a regiment last long enough to show a lot of results over a consistent span of time.

And to be fair if any one of the names I highlighted could be considered above me it would be you. I think we are very close but I think I should be about .1-.2 above you simply because I led more 1v1s in a specific regiment.

My suggested changes would look like this:
89 -  Grimsight (3eVolt)
88 -  Cheeseypants (71st)
86 -  Zorkoth (12th)
85 -  Alexander (5th/75th)
84 -  Irish (6te)
84 -  RussianFury/Waste (LG)
83 -  Marceaux (111e/84e)
83 -  Godfreid (98e/4th)
82 -  Knight of St John (PSG)
82 -  Ody (MoskovGren)
82 -  PurplePanda/Windflower (30th)
81 -  Stox (54th)

I am not even going to attempt to put the decimal scores lol
« Last Edit: August 23, 2019, 02:09:45 am by Marceaux »


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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #130 on: August 23, 2019, 02:11:09 am »
godfreid why did you mention 16thCS

now I remember that existed

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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #131 on: August 23, 2019, 02:15:57 am »
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3

The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.

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Only one merc in that picture and he didn't play vs the LG so no, LG got their ass spanked by us.

I beat Anthony, Maniac/Whatever other USMC leader was there and Lawrence all in 1v1s with the 10th! I am really good, Godfriend and I 2v9 a round during the USMC match!

Also, Grimsight is the best leader.
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« Reply #132 on: August 23, 2019, 02:37:11 am »
I was in the 4th during S6 of NWL. The only reason I remember that is because Nico threw up mid round and it it still a great meme
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Re: All-Time Leaders (NA)(2019)
« Reply #133 on: August 23, 2019, 02:39:36 am »
Crazy that you had one good tournament and that makes you an 82.3

The 30th weren't even supposed to win NAPL. If the 6teSLR didn't get caught using Maniac the 6te would've probably won the league. Plus if the Sil didn't bring mercs against the LG they could've won the league.

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Only one merc in that picture and he didn't play vs the LG so no, LG got their ass spanked by us.

I beat Anthony, Maniac/Whatever other USMC leader was there and Lawrence all in 1v1s with the 10th! I am really good, Godfriend and I 2v9 a round during the USMC match!

Also, Grimsight is the best leader.
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« Reply #134 on: August 23, 2019, 04:03:07 am »
Can we all just point out that i'm literally the best minecraft 1v1 leader ever to touch NW.  I don't get enough credit, I lead a army dogs against the might of the ender dragon, slashing him with my diamond sword.