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Oberst (Commandant) Oberstlieutenant Major Adjutant Junker Regiments-Quartiermeister Bataillons-Quartiermeister Regiments-/Bataillonsauditor Regimentschirurg Bataillonschirurg Chirurgischer Praktikant Musikmeister und Hautboisten Regimentstambour Bataillonstambour Profos Büchsenmacher Capitän 1. Klasse Capitän 2. Klasse Oberlieutenant Unterlieutenant Feldwebel Furier Sergent Corporal Hornist Tambour Gefreiter Gemeiner All in all: | 1 1 2 3 3 1 - 1 1 3 3 13 1 - 1 1 6 10 16 16 16 16 32 64 4 28 144 2048 _____________ 2435 |
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Very nice work, ted. Thank you!
So the main thing to differ Füsiliere, Grenadiere and Schützen of one regiment is the plume at the Raupenhelm? No plume for füsiliere, red ones for the greandiere and green for schützen? Did the Schützenkompanies had some diffrent weaponary like a few men with rifles or were they equipted like the other companies?
interesting. So like http://www.napoleonguide.com/ but for Bavaria?
Nice site Ted, looks very promising. You might wanna consider translating it into German at some stage, as not all Germans speak very good English or expect a site like this to be in German. Another tip I have is that you should add your sources, especially if they are secondary - It improves the creditability of the site, and authors deserve to be credited for the work they do.
Ted, put the page back up!
I'm quite curious to know the reason why the "hautoboisten" is a higher rank than the other musicians. Are you considered to be of higher importance when you play a specific instrument? ??? Hautbois means oboe in French. That's what raised my eyebrow.
That's an interesting question!Oooh, how interesting! I had no idea. Thanks for the explanation. :D
The rank "Hautboist" dates back to the 17th century when oboes were considered a main instrument of the military orchestra - one of the oboe-players used to lead the orchestra when practicing and set the tone, similiar to the civilian position of the first violin. However, in the late 18th and 19th century armymusicians in general used to be called "Hoboist" or "Hautboist" until the First World War in Germany. The purpose of the name was to distinguish between actual musicians and the usual tambours giving drum- or hornsignals:
The Hautboists made up the actual band, led by a Kapell- or Musikmeister.
The "Signalisten" on the other hand - drummers, trumpeters, hornists (fifers had been abolished before the Napoleonic Wars) - were not considered to be equal to Hautboists as their main purpose was rather simple signalling, while the Hautboists played the actual music. That's why Hautboists were higher in rank and pay.