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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Events: EU => Community => Competitive EU Events/Tournaments => Topic started by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 04:08:34 pm

Title: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 04:08:34 pm
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Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: MarxeiL on July 22, 2018, 04:12:19 pm
Great header, should make it a bit smaller maybe and would be amazing.
Good luck with this, looks promising  ;D ;)

P.S. Wrong board, btw
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 04:16:21 pm
Great header, should make it a bit smaller maybe and would be amazing.
Good luck with this, looks promising  ;D ;)

P.S. Wrong board, btw

Thank you :)

Would be appreciated if any admin could move it into the tournaments.
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Herishey on July 22, 2018, 04:23:46 pm
gl nice thread
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Lorucas on July 22, 2018, 04:25:31 pm
Nice idea Nytek! :D
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 04:31:12 pm
gl nice thread

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 04:31:26 pm
Nice idea Nytek! :D

thanks :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Knightmare on July 22, 2018, 04:42:35 pm
very nice thread, especially the header, could be bigger tho
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 04:49:53 pm
very nice thread, especially the header, could be bigger tho
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Nerza on July 22, 2018, 04:56:07 pm
- Name of regiment: 2ème Régiment de Hussards
- Cavalry class: Hussars
- Estimate your numbers: 12 - 15
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/nerza/ or https://steamcommunity.com/id/Beaufort1371
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Arno on July 22, 2018, 05:07:35 pm
- Name of regiment: 59th Cavalry Company
- Cavalry class: Hussar
- Estimate your numbers: 12-15
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044662170/
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 05:15:11 pm
- Name of regiment: 2ème Régiment de Hussards
- Cavalry class: Hussars
- Estimate your numbers: 12 - 15
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/nerza/ or https://steamcommunity.com/id/Beaufort1371

Gladly accepted :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 05:15:25 pm
- Name of regiment: 59th Cavalry Company
- Cavalry class: Hussar
- Estimate your numbers: 12-15
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044662170/


Gladly accepted :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Herishey on July 22, 2018, 05:56:24 pm
If there's any regiments that need a player for this at all let me know. :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Shadey on July 22, 2018, 05:56:30 pm
Good Luck! :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 22, 2018, 06:04:38 pm
- Name of regiment: Schlesisches Husaren-Regiment „GrafVonZieten“ Nr.4
- Cavalry class: Hussars
- Estimate your numbers: ~12
- Contact person steamprofile: Felix (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Felix/)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 06:13:00 pm
- Name of regiment: Schlesisches Husaren-Regiment „GrafVonZieten“ Nr.4
- Cavalry class: Hussars
- Estimate your numbers: ~12
- Contact person steamprofile: Felix (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Felix/)

Glady accepted! :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 06:17:29 pm
If there is interest from infantry to do an inf cup then let me know :) I would be more than happy to host a cup for you too!
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Herishey on July 22, 2018, 06:47:15 pm
EIC is coming to it's end or has just ended and NWL hasn't been announced so there is probably a space there for inf too.
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 07:34:02 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE
From now on we will only allow the hussar class. Thus, to make it as fair as possible we will go with one class. Heavy cavalry regiments are still more than welcome to sign up as hussars! Since no regiments have signed up as heavies yet.
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Dokletian on July 22, 2018, 07:36:41 pm
*Here before the storm begins*
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: Cage on July 22, 2018, 07:37:32 pm
- Name of regiment: 8th King's Royal Hussars
- Cavalry class: Hussars
- Estimate your numbers: ~15
- Contact person steamprofile: Stannis (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083874650) Cage (https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thcage)

good decision btw, will definitely lead to a fairer and more competitive tourny
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 07:40:22 pm
- Name of regiment: 8th King's Royal Hussars
- Cavalry class: Hussars
- Estimate your numbers: ~15
- Contact person steamprofile: Stannis (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083874650) Cage (https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thcage)

good decision btw, will definitely lead to a fairer and more competitive tourny
gladly accepted!
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: Lightning. on July 22, 2018, 07:49:40 pm
- Name of regiment: 5tePB Cavalry
- Cavalry class: Hussars of course
- Estimate your numbers: ~10
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/LightningOfficial/


Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 07:51:20 pm
*Here before the storm begins*

Well, there has been no heavy cavalry signed up so far.
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 07:52:53 pm
- Name of regiment: 5tePB Cavalry
- Cavalry class: Hussars of course
- Estimate your numbers: ~10
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/LightningOfficial/

Gladly accepted! :)
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 22, 2018, 08:44:17 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE
From now on we will only allow the hussar class. Thus, to make it as fair as possible we will go with one class. Heavy cavalry regiments are still more than welcome to sign up as hussars! Since no regiments have signed up as heavies yet.

You should wait until 1erRC and 14pk realize this thread

And one question has this event or tournament the same structure/System like CNWL?
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 08:57:41 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE
From now on we will only allow the hussar class. Thus, to make it as fair as possible we will go with one class. Heavy cavalry regiments are still more than welcome to sign up as hussars! Since no regiments have signed up as heavies yet.

You should until 1erRC and 14pk realize this thread

And one question has this event or tournament the same structure/System like CNWL?

It does not have the same structure as the CNWL. This will be a short tournament over a couple of days. There will be a bracket with 8 teams and it will be a direct knockout. The teams will be divided into two tiers based on their position in the previous league. Tier 1 teams will be randomized against Tier 2.
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 22, 2018, 09:39:31 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE
From now on we will only allow the hussar class. Thus, to make it as fair as possible we will go with one class. Heavy cavalry regiments are still more than welcome to sign up as hussars! Since no regiments have signed up as heavies yet.

You should until 1erRC and 14pk realize this thread

And one question has this event or tournament the same structure/System like CNWL?

It does not have the same structure as the CNWL. This will be a short tournament over a couple of days. There will be a bracket with 8 teams and it will be a direct knockout. The teams will be divided into two tiers based on their position in the previous league. Tier 1 teams will be randomized against Tier 2.

Then in my opinion you can do this tournament in the mid of August
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: Lorucas on July 22, 2018, 09:41:17 pm
No pls I have to work in summer  :'(
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: nytek on July 22, 2018, 09:48:01 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE
From now on we will only allow the hussar class. Thus, to make it as fair as possible we will go with one class. Heavy cavalry regiments are still more than welcome to sign up as hussars! Since no regiments have signed up as heavies yet.

You should until 1erRC and 14pk realize this thread

And one question has this event or tournament the same structure/System like CNWL?

It does not have the same structure as the CNWL. This will be a short tournament over a couple of days. There will be a bracket with 8 teams and it will be a direct knockout. The teams will be divided into two tiers based on their position in the previous league. Tier 1 teams will be randomized against Tier 2.

Then in my opinion you can do this tournament in the mid of August

I will ask the other regiments participating and see what they think about it.
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: BrokenCrayon on July 22, 2018, 10:12:26 pm
"Cavalry Cup"


- No lancers!

- No heavy cavalry!
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: Lorucas on July 22, 2018, 10:15:29 pm
"Cavalry Cup"


- No lancers!

- No heavy cavalry!

Hussars are cavalry :D
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: BrokenCrayon on July 22, 2018, 10:16:05 pm
"Cavalry Cup"


- No lancers!

- No heavy cavalry!

Hussars are cavalry :D

Why not just call it "Hussar Cup" as not all cavalry classes are allowed :P
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: Harford on July 22, 2018, 10:41:30 pm
"Cavalry Cup"


- No lancers!

- No heavy cavalry!
Title: Re: Cavalry Cup (EU) [Hussars]
Post by: Glenn_ on July 22, 2018, 10:43:18 pm
Someone's salty about losing to the 14pk :D
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 12:49:57 pm
Thread updated for those of you who disagree with the name of this tournament. Now I would prefer if we leave this behind and focus on the tournament instead of useless complaints about the tournament's cavalry class. There is not a lot of regimental tournaments out there for cavalry so I would prefer that we stay classy and make this work. Setting a bad example here might deter others from hosting events for the community. Keep in mind that the rule change was made before any heavy cavalry signed up. The decision was taken in account to the wish of a majority from the community. Sometimes you have to make decisions that will infuriate some but please the majority. The decision would not have been taken if any regiment would have signed up as heavies before the rule change.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 01:20:47 pm
I have gauged your preferences when it comes to the date. And right now it seems to be 50/50. Some want to schedule it in August and others want it in September. Which makes it a little bit difficult for me to decide which date to go for. I obviously want to please everyone but this is not possible. Therefore I will call a meeting with representants from each regiment where we together try to reach a compromise. This will be scheduled when we have 8 teams signed up.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: King Stannis Baratheon on July 23, 2018, 02:06:54 pm
Someone is a little toxic about being proven wrong from their misinformation.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Zahari on July 23, 2018, 03:31:35 pm
We would sign up as heavies ofc but when I was checking the thread it was already stated that its only for hussars so sadly we have to refuse from participating in this tournament. Good luck for everyone!



Just in case u are going to allow cuis:

- Name of regiment: 14. Pułk Kirasjerów
- In-game class: Heavy cav
- Estimate your numbers: 10-17
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/z-h---
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Harford on July 23, 2018, 03:41:46 pm
Thread updated for those of you who disagree with the name of this tournament. Now I would prefer if we leave this behind and focus on the tournament instead of useless complaints about the tournament's cavalry class. There is not a lot of regimental tournaments out there for cavalry so I would prefer that we stay classy and make this work. Setting a bad example here might deter others from hosting events for the community. Keep in mind that the rule change was made before any heavy cavalry signed up. The decision was taken in account to the wish of a majority from the community. Sometimes you have to make decisions that will infuriate some but please the majority. The decision would not have been taken if any regiment would have signed up as heavies before the rule change.

so you basically gave less than 24h to let an heavy regiment to sign up and try to contest the rule, in a period of vacation for pretty much everyone i believe
as one of the greatest thinker of fse said once

very nice
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Squall on July 23, 2018, 03:46:33 pm

it's gone for more madness 8) 8)

- Name of regiment: 1erRC
- In-game class: Heavy cav
- Estimate your numbers: 10-17
- Contact person steamprofile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018729737/

Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 04:20:12 pm
Thread updated for those of you who disagree with the name of this tournament. Now I would prefer if we leave this behind and focus on the tournament instead of useless complaints about the tournament's cavalry class. There is not a lot of regimental tournaments out there for cavalry so I would prefer that we stay classy and make this work. Setting a bad example here might deter others from hosting events for the community. Keep in mind that the rule change was made before any heavy cavalry signed up. The decision was taken in account to the wish of a majority from the community. Sometimes you have to make decisions that will infuriate some but please the majority. The decision would not have been taken if any regiment would have signed up as heavies before the rule change.

so you basically gave less than 24h to let an heavy regiment to sign up and try to contest the rule, in a period of vacation for pretty much everyone i believe
as one of the greatest thinker of fse said once

very nice

Naturally. When I got messages about people not wanting to face heavies I made the change before any regiment signed up as heavy cavalry. But feel free to host a tournament of your own from your spare time and make the rules you feel is correct, Monsieur.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 04:37:54 pm

it's gone for more madness 8) 8)

- Name of regiment: 1erRC
- In-game class: Heavy cav
- Estimate your numbers: 10-17
- Contact person steamprofile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018729737/

Denied - no heavies.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 23, 2018, 04:46:43 pm
I think to chose one champion of the entire hussar community you should offer more spaces for regiments.

Btw how many regiments did message you exactly?
Because of the 5 regiments attending right now probably 4 messaged you maybe.

Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: King Stannis Baratheon on July 23, 2018, 04:59:32 pm
If more regiments are interested in joining then I agree with Felix that more should be allowed to play. Maybe increasing the cap from 8 to either 10 or 12. Just depends on the general interest in this tournament.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 05:02:42 pm
I think to chose one champion of the entire hussar community you should offer more spaces for regiments.

Btw how many regiments did message you exactly?
Because of the 5 regiments attending right now probably 4 messaged you maybe.

The idea is to have a bracket and I think it is very unlikely that we would get 16 regiments signed up for this without making it a league. If we had 12 teams it wouldn't work in a bracket and neither would 10. I have been talking to the other 4 leaders. The people who I have held the discussions about the date with is Cage, Nerza, Sharpe and Arno. Two of them prefered to have it in September, you and another one said mid-august. The last one said that both September and August would work fine but kinda prefer September.

 I have not added you on steam yet btw, because I think there has been a misunderstanding, the link you provided sent me to a dude who has not been online since 2007 :D
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 05:03:44 pm
If people wants to make it a group stage and then a bracket. I would be open to doing that as well.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 23, 2018, 05:10:36 pm
If people wants to make it a group stage and then a bracket. I would be open to doing that as well.

Yea if you would do this format it would be a way more interesting!

And sorry I will edit my post so you can add me :)

When so many people complain about the date then we could do it in the end of August?
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: King Stannis Baratheon on July 23, 2018, 05:20:54 pm
If more regiments are interested in joining then I think it would be worth changing the way the tournament is set up.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Nerza on July 23, 2018, 05:28:12 pm
If more regiments are interested in joining then I think it would be worth changing the way the tournament is set up.

I agree with that, as I said to Nytek on Steam, a tournament kinda made on the WC template would be nice, groupstage then bracket with semis and a final. Classical Cup I'd say :p
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Lightning. on July 23, 2018, 06:13:25 pm
If more regiments are interested in joining then I think it would be worth changing the way the tournament is set up.

I agree with that, as I said to Nytek on Steam, a tournament kinda made on the WC template would be nice, groupstage then bracket with semis and a final. Classical Cup I'd say :p
Can brick back CNC then  :D
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Treiz35 on July 23, 2018, 06:36:15 pm
- Name of regiment: 5e Regiment de Hussards
- Estimate your numbers: 12-15
- Contact person steamprofile: 1- https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198080094729/
                                             2- https://steamcommunity.com/id/exofr
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 06:37:05 pm
- Name of regiment: 5e Regiment de Hussards
- Estimate your numbers: 12-15
- Contact person steamprofile: 1- https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198080094729/
                                             2- https://steamcommunity.com/id/exofr

Gladly accepted! :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Erik le Rouge on July 23, 2018, 08:40:14 pm
- Name of regiment: 4e Régiment de Hussards.
- Estimate your numbers: 15-20.
- Contact person steamprofile: Erik (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ErikleRouge/).

Thank you. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 08:48:23 pm
- Name of regiment: 4e Régiment de Hussards.
- Estimate your numbers: 15-20.
- Contact person steamprofile: Erik (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ErikleRouge/).

Thank you. Looking forward to this.

Gladly accepted! :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: The Govenor on July 23, 2018, 08:54:57 pm
- Name of regiment: Husaren-Regiment "Graf Radetzky" Nr5
- Estimate your numbers: 12-14
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198013455194/ (Commander), https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122743852/ (2nd)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 09:10:22 pm
- Name of regiment: Husaren-Regiment "Graf Radetzky" Nr5
- Estimate your numbers: 12-14
- Contact person steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198013455194/ (Commander), https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122743852/ (2nd)

Gladly accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 09:19:09 pm
Update

Since we now have 8 regiments we will change the number of participants to 12. We have four slots left available. This means that we will have to do two groups with 6 participants in each. Six teams will be seeded as tier 1 and the other six as tier 2. We will then divide the participants so that there is three of each. The teams in the group will have to go head to head against each other. You're guaranteed at least 5 games, after that the best two teams in the group will go through to the semi-finals. This will, however, take a couple of weeks as most regiments would be unwilling to do more than one 1vs1 per week. We might have to include one week's break as well. I hope that everyone is willing to agree to this. My plan at first was to make a swift tournament but having gauged at the comments in here it looks like most of you would have as many teams participating as possible. If you do not agree with this then let me know! Then we can work something out to make it as short as possible.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [8/12]
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 09:20:40 pm
The thread will be updated tomorrow with the new tournament layout.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 23, 2018, 09:21:40 pm
Update: Since we now have 8 regiments we will change the number of participants to 12. We have four slots left available. This means that we will have to do two groups with 6 participants in each. Six teams will be seeded as tier 1 and the other six as tier 2. We will then divide the participants so that there is three of each. The teams in the group will have to go head to head against each other. You're guaranteed at least 5 games, after that the best two teams in the group will go through to the semi-finals. This will, however, take a couple of weeks as most regiments would be unwilling to do more than one 1vs1 per week. We might have to include one week's break as well. I hope that everyone is willing to agree to this. My plan at first was to make a swift tournament but having gauged the comments in here it looks like most of you would have as many teams participating as possible. If you do not agree with this then let me know!

So you put three good regs and three medium regs in one group?
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 23, 2018, 09:28:51 pm
Update: Since we now have 8 regiments we will change the number of participants to 12. We have four slots left available. This means that we will have to do two groups with 6 participants in each. Six teams will be seeded as tier 1 and the other six as tier 2. We will then divide the participants so that there is three of each. The teams in the group will have to go head to head against each other. You're guaranteed at least 5 games, after that the best two teams in the group will go through to the semi-finals. This will, however, take a couple of weeks as most regiments would be unwilling to do more than one 1vs1 per week. We might have to include one week's break as well. I hope that everyone is willing to agree to this. My plan at first was to make a swift tournament but having gauged the comments in here it looks like most of you would have as many teams participating as possible. If you do not agree with this then let me know!

So you put three good regs and three medium regs in one group?
Yes. I know that this might not be what everyone wants but I think it will lead to the best competition. If a medium regiment is to win the thing then they need to beat the best anyway. That is my thinking behind it.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: ~Felix~ on July 23, 2018, 09:35:17 pm
Update: Since we now have 8 regiments we will change the number of participants to 12. We have four slots left available. This means that we will have to do two groups with 6 participants in each. Six teams will be seeded as tier 1 and the other six as tier 2. We will then divide the participants so that there is three of each. The teams in the group will have to go head to head against each other. You're guaranteed at least 5 games, after that the best two teams in the group will go through to the semi-finals. This will, however, take a couple of weeks as most regiments would be unwilling to do more than one 1vs1 per week. We might have to include one week's break as well. I hope that everyone is willing to agree to this. My plan at first was to make a swift tournament but having gauged the comments in here it looks like most of you would have as many teams participating as possible. If you do not agree with this then let me know!

So you put three good regs and three medium regs in one group?
Yes. I know that this might not be what everyone wants but I think it will lead to the best competition. If a medium regiment is to win the thing then they need to beat the best anyway. That is my thinking behind it.

Idm cuz if you put all medium reg into one group and alle good ones into a group then the final will be not that exciting
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [8/12]
Post by: Goodest on July 24, 2018, 03:56:28 pm
- Name of regiment: 2. Leib-Regiment
- Estimate your numbers: 12
- Contact person steamprofile: Goodest (https://steamcommunity.com/id/2Lr_Goodest)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [8/12]
Post by: nytek on July 24, 2018, 04:04:58 pm
- Name of regiment: 2. Leib-Regiment
- Estimate your numbers: 12
- Contact person steamprofile: Goodest (https://steamcommunity.com/id/2Lr_Goodest)

Gladly accepted! :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: Tulkas on July 24, 2018, 06:37:30 pm
- Nickname : Tulkas

- Why you want to become an admin : To this tournament to happen in the best possible conditions and to help u ;)

- Previous experience : admin on 2 cav gf, I was referre for last CNWL and i was referee for an inf competition (ligue impériale)

- Steamprofile : https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thKRH_Tulkas/
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: nytek on July 24, 2018, 07:18:00 pm
- Nickname : Tulkas

- Why you want to become an admin : To this tournament to happen in the best possible conditions and to help u ;)

- Previous experience : admin on 2 cav gf, I was referre for last CNWL and i was referee for an inf competition (ligue impériale)

- Steamprofile : https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thKRH_Tulkas/

Gladly accepted :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: nytek on July 24, 2018, 07:19:49 pm
We still need admins/referees. I changed the rule so that people who participate can apply for admin and referee other regiments games. However, you will not be allowed to ref your own regiment. Any help with this is much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: Lightning. on July 24, 2018, 07:27:42 pm
We still need admins/referees. I changed the rule so that people who participate can apply for admin and referee other regiments games. However, you will not be allowed to ref your own regiment. Any help with this is much appreciated :)
Here you go then

- Nickname: Lightning
- Why you want to become an admin: I like to do that stuff
- Previous experience: DNWL, EIC, 1vs1 Tournaments by Marxeil, etc
- Steamprofile: You have me
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: nytek on July 24, 2018, 07:42:34 pm
We still need admins/referees. I changed the rule so that people who participate can apply for admin and referee other regiments games. However, you will not be allowed to ref your own regiment. Any help with this is much appreciated :)
Here you go then

- Nickname: Lightning
- Why you want to become an admin: I like to do that stuff
- Previous experience: DNWL, EIC, 1vs1 Tournaments by Marxeil, etc
- Steamprofile: You have me

Gladly accepted :)!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: Remao on July 24, 2018, 09:33:14 pm
- Name of regiment: 7e régiments de hussards
- Estimate your numbers: 12
- Contact person steamprofile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Remao/
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [9/12]
Post by: nytek on July 24, 2018, 10:01:19 pm
- Name of regiment: 7e régiments de hussards
- Estimate your numbers: 12
- Contact person steamprofile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Remao/

Gladly accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [10/12]
Post by: nytek on July 24, 2018, 10:44:49 pm
update coming tomorrow.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [10/12]
Post by: Dokletian on July 25, 2018, 10:32:28 am
Name of regiment: Schlesisches Husaren-Regiment "Graf Goetzen" Nr.6
Estimate your numbers: 15+.
Contact person steamprofile: (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmlpforums.com%2Fpublic%2Fstyle_extra%2Fcprofile_icons%2Fprofile_steam.png&hash=84ad9b0cbd29f0fa8809913f4bd2cf442fa7d32f) Leutnant Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiii)

Here we go again.

I am heavily for a late starting date, prob late september
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU) [10/12]
Post by: nytek on July 25, 2018, 12:10:28 pm
Name of regiment: Schlesisches Husaren-Regiment "Graf Goetzen" Nr.6
Estimate your numbers: 15+.
Contact person steamprofile: (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmlpforums.com%2Fpublic%2Fstyle_extra%2Fcprofile_icons%2Fprofile_steam.png&hash=84ad9b0cbd29f0fa8809913f4bd2cf442fa7d32f) Leutnant Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiii)

Here we go again.

I am heavily for a late starting date, prob late september

Gladly accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: nytek on July 25, 2018, 02:18:28 pm
Thread updated with info. Note that the bracket image is NOT drawn yet and is still to be randomized. I just provided an image to show people how it will work.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: Tardet on July 30, 2018, 09:13:41 pm
Hey Nytek! Many thanks for taking the time to host a tournament, I am not really part of the cavalry community but I do look forward to see how it plays out.

Spoiler
Update: Since we now have 8 regiments we will change the number of participants to 12. We have four slots left available. This means that we will have to do two groups with 6 participants in each. Six teams will be seeded as tier 1 and the other six as tier 2. We will then divide the participants so that there is three of each. The teams in the group will have to go head to head against each other. You're guaranteed at least 5 games, after that the best two teams in the group will go through to the semi-finals. This will, however, take a couple of weeks as most regiments would be unwilling to do more than one 1vs1 per week. We might have to include one week's break as well. I hope that everyone is willing to agree to this. My plan at first was to make a swift tournament but having gauged the comments in here it looks like most of you would have as many teams participating as possible. If you do not agree with this then let me know!

So you put three good regs and three medium regs in one group?
Yes. I know that this might not be what everyone wants but I think it will lead to the best competition. If a medium regiment is to win the thing then they need to beat the best anyway. That is my thinking behind it.

Idm cuz if you put all medium reg into one group and alle good ones into a group then the final will be not that exciting
[close]

I was just wondering if this was still a thing? Aka, do you still plan to spread teams in each part of the bracket depending on their skill/reputation, making two 'even' groups in the brackets. Looking at the brackets you put as an exemple, teams seem to be spread completly randomly but then again, you said it was an exemple so I am wondering if you changed your mind or if you still think its a good idea? (Because lets be frank, if you still think it is, I do believe it might be worth adressing to you why it really isn't).



Also, looking at your idea which is to host a 'fast-paced' tournament due to popular demand, did you consider the idea of adding a loser brackets? I am not completly sure yet how you can work it out without lenghtening the tournament too much and still giving enough time to the teams in the loser brackets to play their matches ; but with only twelve teams partaking into this tournament, it would give the opportunity to every teams to play a minimum of two matches and with it, adding the possibility of not being completly out due to a bad start, and with not so many 'extra' matches added.

Just an idea, obviously some people might be hostile to it for obvious reasons but I just came across your thread and assumed it was worth adding it as a suggestion.



Last but not least, I had the chance to catch one of the match of the last CNWL, live-streaming it on IVe Corps' youtube channel with Syrcrim and Nerza and it was a really enjoyable experience. September is still far way but if you'd like to have a similar coverage being done on your tournament when it goes live (in french), feel free to contact us. Once more, best of luck for your project!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: DragonKing on July 30, 2018, 10:36:34 pm
Next time, you will allow cuirassers i hope ;)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (EU)
Post by: nytek on July 31, 2018, 12:42:12 pm
Hey Nytek! Many thanks for taking the time to host a tournament, I am not really part of the cavalry community but I do look forward to see how it plays out.

Spoiler
Update: Since we now have 8 regiments we will change the number of participants to 12. We have four slots left available. This means that we will have to do two groups with 6 participants in each. Six teams will be seeded as tier 1 and the other six as tier 2. We will then divide the participants so that there is three of each. The teams in the group will have to go head to head against each other. You're guaranteed at least 5 games, after that the best two teams in the group will go through to the semi-finals. This will, however, take a couple of weeks as most regiments would be unwilling to do more than one 1vs1 per week. We might have to include one week's break as well. I hope that everyone is willing to agree to this. My plan at first was to make a swift tournament but having gauged the comments in here it looks like most of you would have as many teams participating as possible. If you do not agree with this then let me know!

So you put three good regs and three medium regs in one group?
Yes. I know that this might not be what everyone wants but I think it will lead to the best competition. If a medium regiment is to win the thing then they need to beat the best anyway. That is my thinking behind it.

Idm cuz if you put all medium reg into one group and alle good ones into a group then the final will be not that exciting
[close]

I was just wondering if this was still a thing? Aka, do you still plan to spread teams in each part of the bracket depending on their skill/reputation, making two 'even' groups in the brackets. Looking at the brackets you put as an exemple, teams seem to be spread completly randomly but then again, you said it was an exemple so I am wondering if you changed your mind or if you still think its a good idea? (Because lets be frank, if you still think it is, I do believe it might be worth adressing to you why it really isn't).



Also, looking at your idea which is to host a 'fast-paced' tournament due to popular demand, did you consider the idea of adding a loser brackets? I am not completly sure yet how you can work it out without lenghtening the tournament too much and still giving enough time to the teams in the loser brackets to play their matches ; but with only twelve teams partaking into this tournament, it would give the opportunity to every teams to play a minimum of two matches and with it, adding the possibility of not being completly out due to a bad start, and with not so many 'extra' matches added.

Just an idea, obviously some people might be hostile to it for obvious reasons but I just came across your thread and assumed it was worth adding it as a suggestion.


Last but not least, I had the chance to catch one of the match of the last CNWL, live-streaming it on IVe Corps' youtube channel with Syrcrim and Nerza and it was a really enjoyable experience. September is still far way but if you'd like to have a similar coverage being done on your tournament when it goes live (in french), feel free to contact us. Once more, best of luck for your project!

Hey Tardet! My intention is indeed, to base the randomized draws around a seeding system. I will divide 6 teams into tier 2 and 6 teams into tier 1. Then the draws will be based around that to ensure that we get a competitive tournament. The top 4 in the CNWL will automatically go through to the quarter-finals. Your idea is a very good one as that would allow the new regiments a chance to get more competitive games and training. I don't see any reasons as to why any regiment would reject this opportunity. I will ask regiments around and see how they feel about it. I don't want to insult any regiment and therefore, I will ask every regiment involved in the first round about how they feel about this. But speaking for myself, I would be more than happy to give regiments this opportunity. This is a fantastic suggestion and I appreciate this very much. I think however that it should only include the 4 losing teams in the first round. They would go directly to a semi-final in a second bracket. Ofcourse, any video's or coverage of this tournament is greatly appreciated! I would be more than happy to place links to videos in the thread and share it with the rest of the community. If anyone else wants to record this, feel free to do so. It is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: Tardet on July 31, 2018, 05:59:27 pm
Glad you like the suggestion! As for streaming it, as I said, september is still a bit far away but once we approach the starting date, Syrcrim and I will probably have a better idea of wherever or not we would be available for it. Definetly hope we can work out something ;)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: nytek on August 02, 2018, 05:55:08 pm
Brackets released
(https://i.imgur.com/jTYYjPp.png)

The teams who lose round 1 will go directly to a (second knockout elimination) where the 4 teams who lost will play in another bracket. Which will start at the semifinals. So there will be a Bracket (1), the one linked and a bracket (2) for those who lose first round as Tardet suggested.

Bracket for the losing teams in the first round
(https://i.gyazo.com/b415bb2548cc0c50494b75c336fce4f7.png)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: nytek on August 03, 2018, 09:13:00 am
I am going to be away for the weekend and I'll be back on Monday. If I am not answering in this thread then you know why ^^ I'll try to go on, during some point of the weekend.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: ForTheEpicness I. on August 07, 2018, 11:11:06 am
5te PB doesn't exist anymore.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: Dokletian on August 07, 2018, 11:24:40 am
5te PB doesn't exist anymore.
11th‘s gonna take their spot, I guess
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: ForTheEpicness I. on August 07, 2018, 11:49:57 am
5te PB doesn't exist anymore.
11th‘s gonna take their spot, I guess

Honestly doubting they can bring 12 members without the rest of 5tePB. (+ Lightning signed them up who isn't in the 11th)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [One slot remaining]
Post by: nytek on August 07, 2018, 04:53:01 pm
I can confirm that the 5tePB will not attend. I have been really busy with some work and that's why I haven't updated the thread yet! But I'll make the change on the thread. I am also working on getting 2 more regiments to attend!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 20, 2018, 12:08:15 pm
Update - tournament starts in a week!

Since no additional teams have signed up. There is a deadline to sign up today. If there is no replacement for 5tePB, then Nr5 will go through via walkover. I recommend the following teams to make contact with each other and decide day: Nr4 - 2e Hussards, 2Lr - 59th Cavalry. I know that some people think this is unfair. But I let the randomization do all the work. It might not be fair, but neither is life.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 20, 2018, 12:24:18 pm
Also, I am in need of more referee's as we only have 3.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: Lorucas on August 20, 2018, 12:53:41 pm
- Nickname: Lorucas.
- Why you want to become an admin: My boi Nytek needs help and im coming for the bannercall.
- Previous experience: Admin in Cav Gf and Cav Gf Eu (not the KGL one).
- Steamprofile: Me (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lorucas/)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: Dokletian on August 20, 2018, 01:12:26 pm
- Nickname: Dokletian
- Why you want to become an admin: Helping this whole tournament to be awesome :)
- Previous experience: CNWL Referee multiple times, I was/am admin on countless server and events. Don‘t wanna list everything here.
- Steamprofile: [Nr.6] Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiii)

What map are we gonna use for the tournament?
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: Lightning. on August 20, 2018, 02:00:07 pm
- Nickname: Lightning
- Why you want to become an admin: I have time due to not participating lol
- Previous experience: DNWL, EIC etc
- Steamprofile: You have me
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: Shadey on August 20, 2018, 03:35:13 pm
- Nickname: Shadey
- Why you want to become an admin: Tournament looks promising, and I have the time so why not :)
- Previous experience: CNWL Ref, EiC Ref, Some Duel tournaments and Linebattles.
- Steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/chickenboona/
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: Dokletian on August 20, 2018, 04:25:03 pm
the next applicant Quinn is gay
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: QuinnML on August 20, 2018, 05:18:40 pm
Name of regiment: Schlesisches Husaren-Regiment "Graf Goetzen" Nr.6
Estimate your numbers: 15+.
Contact person steamprofile:  Leutnant Dokletian
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 21, 2018, 06:27:44 pm
- Nickname: Lorucas.
- Why you want to become an admin: My boi Nytek needs help and im coming for the bannercall.
- Previous experience: Admin in Cav Gf and Cav Gf Eu (not the KGL one).
- Steamprofile: Me (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lorucas/)

accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 21, 2018, 06:28:01 pm
- Nickname: Dokletian
- Why you want to become an admin: Helping this whole tournament to be awesome :)
- Previous experience: CNWL Referee multiple times, I was/am admin on countless server and events. Don‘t wanna list everything here.
- Steamprofile: [Nr.6] Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiii)

What map are we gonna use for the tournament?

accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 21, 2018, 06:28:32 pm
- Nickname: Lightning
- Why you want to become an admin: I have time due to not participating lol
- Previous experience: DNWL, EIC etc
- Steamprofile: You have me

already on the ref list
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 21, 2018, 06:28:58 pm
Name of regiment: Schlesisches Husaren-Regiment "Graf Goetzen" Nr.6
Estimate your numbers: 15+.
Contact person steamprofile:  Leutnant Dokletian

accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 21, 2018, 06:29:07 pm
- Nickname: Shadey
- Why you want to become an admin: Tournament looks promising, and I have the time so why not :)
- Previous experience: CNWL Ref, EiC Ref, Some Duel tournaments and Linebattles.
- Steamprofile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/chickenboona/

accepted!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: nytek on August 22, 2018, 08:21:50 pm
UPDATE

Today, I have been setting up the servers for the upcoming tournament. Two of the servers are hosted by me (Nuremberg 1 & 2) and the additional servers are hosted by Simrai (http://simrai.com)! Please make sure to agree on the location between the regiments depending on where your users are based. My German servers are really good though. The custom map should be coming shortly ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blomasa.com%2Fimages%2Fflags%2Fde.png&hash=7405f899640f2b089ee7e883bbaf0e23b26a9627) Nuremberg, Germany
(https://i.imgur.com/XyDWxdF.png) Amsterdam, Netherlands.
(https://i.imgur.com/FXt28d1.png) London, United Kingdom.
(https://i.imgur.com/v9lYXbu.png) Paris, France
(https://i.imgur.com/v9lYXbu.png) Gravelines, France


(https://warbandbanner.masonrowe.com/banner.py?ip=94.75.192.199&port=7255&banner=nw_scene)

(https://warbandbanner.masonrowe.com/banner.py?ip=172.107.97.234&port=7253&banner=nw_scene)

(https://warbandbanner.masonrowe.com/banner.py?ip=195.154.172.83&port=7253&banner=nw_scene)

(https://warbandbanner.masonrowe.com/banner.py?ip=151.80.20.72&port=7277&banner=nw_scene)

(https://warbandbanner.masonrowe.com/banner.py?ip=213.239.211.248&port=28003&banner=nw_scene)

(https://warbandbanner.masonrowe.com/banner.py?ip=213.239.211.248&port=28004&banner=nw_scene)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [STILL OPEN]
Post by: Rastignac on August 22, 2018, 08:55:13 pm


Today, I have been setting up the servers for the upcoming tournament. Two of the servers are hosted by me (Nuremberg 1 & 2) and the additional servers are hosted by Simrai (http://simrai.com)! Please make sure to agree on the location between the regiments depending on where your users are based. My German servers are really good though. The custom map should be coming shortly ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blomasa.com%2Fimages%2Fflags%2Fde.png&hash=7405f899640f2b089ee7e883bbaf0e23b26a9627) Nuremberg, Germany
(https://i.imgur.com/XyDWxdF.png) Amsterdam, Netherlands.
(https://i.imgur.com/FXt28d1.png) London, United Kingdom.
(https://i.imgur.com/v9lYXbu.png) Paris, France

(https://i.imgflip.com/2gd94x.jpg)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [CLOSED]
Post by: Cage on August 22, 2018, 09:14:10 pm
They still haven't recontacted Ms Jagger im afraid
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts week 35) [CLOSED]
Post by: nytek on August 25, 2018, 06:20:11 pm
THE OFFICIAL BRACKET (https://challonge.com/sv/ke2p1qve)

The bracket is up as the tournament starts on Monday. Will update the thread further with dates of matches.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup (starts on monday!)
Post by: nytek on August 27, 2018, 01:08:12 pm
Huss cup is starting today. Make sure that you agree the date and time for your matches. The semifinals start on Thursday the 6th September. The matches will have to be played by then! Also as I wrote earlier. Tree hugging is considered wall hugging. There are very few trees on the map. Don't use this to your advantage.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on August 30, 2018, 03:28:32 pm
Small update

I forgot to add a rule for potential draws. And I have decided to make it First to 2 in case of 5-5. Thread is updated ^^
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Lorucas on August 30, 2018, 03:44:44 pm
gl to everyone lads! :D
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on September 02, 2018, 09:06:08 pm
Update

We have had our first two games of the tournament. The results were 6-4 to the Nr.4 and 9-1 to the Nr. 6. Updating the bracket. Also, the tournament is not over for the 2e and 2Lr which will get a spot in the second bracket.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Rhen on September 02, 2018, 09:33:53 pm
kthxbai
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on September 08, 2018, 09:24:47 pm
8-2 to the 8th Hussars. 8th Hussars will face the Nr6. Nr4 withdraws from the tournament. So the losing team in the game between Nr5 - 4e will go directly to second brackets final.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: ~Felix~ on September 08, 2018, 09:36:33 pm
We leave the tournmanet cuz there is no sense to attend anymore.

Thanks for all Nytek and gg 8th Huss  :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on September 09, 2018, 11:05:07 pm
2Lr won the second bracket! Congratz!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Goodest on September 10, 2018, 09:48:59 pm
Thank you :3
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on September 16, 2018, 09:44:51 pm
8-2 to the 4e. The 4e goes through to the final and will face the winner between Nr6 and 8th Hussars. Bracket (https://challonge.com/sv/ke2p1qve) updated
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Ciiges on September 16, 2018, 09:47:04 pm
4e 8 - 2 5e
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/Fkb2tM8.jpg)
[close]
ggwp
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Erik le Rouge on September 16, 2018, 09:59:34 pm
Congrats 5e, great great match as per usual
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on September 30, 2018, 09:39:40 pm
8th Hussars vs 4e Hussards in the final! 8th Hussars vs Nr6 was an absolute epic. GG to Nr6.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Tardet on October 14, 2018, 08:24:23 pm
We'll be streaming the Grand-Final between the 4e Hussard and the 8th Hussars tonight, with French commentaries. The match starts rather soon and you watch us here : https://www.youtube.com/c/IVeCorps/live

Good luck to both regiments!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: nytek on October 14, 2018, 09:54:03 pm
4e wins the tournament! Congratulations! It was an epic game and 4e thoroughly deserved their win. GG!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Ciiges on October 14, 2018, 09:56:08 pm
ggwp 8th, sick match, i was drunk throuf most of it so it was sick
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Dokletian on October 14, 2018, 09:56:53 pm
4e - killing competition since 2015

Congratz 4e!

Spoiler
CNC when?(https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/03/29/49/40/880x495_cmsv2_cd59ef52-68ff-5871-a5a9-21ef8f600351-3294940.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Lightning. on October 14, 2018, 10:02:25 pm
4e - killing competition since 2015

Congratz 4e!

Spoiler
CNC when?(https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/03/29/49/40/880x495_cmsv2_cd59ef52-68ff-5871-a5a9-21ef8f600351-3294940.jpg)
[close]
What he said.

Congrats 4e!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Cage on October 14, 2018, 10:03:23 pm
gg friends!! at 3-4 erik bribed me to lose so this is why!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Shadey on October 14, 2018, 10:07:40 pm
No strip tease from Cage unfortunately.

Well played 8th :) & Thankyou for hosting the tournament Nytek.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: ~Felix~ on October 14, 2018, 10:11:44 pm
THE 8th HAS WON THE TOURNAMNENT

PROBS
PROBS
!!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Rastignac on October 14, 2018, 10:24:26 pm
GG, I enjoyed watching that match almost as much as I enjoyed watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm11C8l9Xwk
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Tardet on October 14, 2018, 10:25:17 pm
The match was a pleasure to cast, would have been cool to have an EU commentary too cause this kind of intensity definitely deserved a stream everyone can watch and understand.

Congratz to the 4e for yet another title and huge props to the 8th for putting up one hell of a fight.

Big thanks to Nytek also, for taking the time to organize that competition. I think it was a good idea to make it hussars only for that edition but in future, I'd find it cool to allow heavy cavalries to partake as well. Not sure everyone will agree but from my perspective, the community is not as active as it used to be (even though 20v20 tonight was great to see!!) and it's never a positive thing to have one or two regiments sitting out because you are forcing to play a class which is not theirs.

I understand the issue is a bit more complex than what it seems though. I am just throwing this out there, not like I am relevant to that matter and maybe it is not the time/place to discuss it.

Hope everyone had fun!

Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Cage on October 14, 2018, 10:26:59 pm
No strip tease from Cage unfortunately.

erik obviously didnt want it to happen, which i find HIGHLY UNLIKELY
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: King Stannis Baratheon on October 14, 2018, 10:46:01 pm
GG to the 4e was a fun and intense game today, I had alotta fun with this match and tournament overall :)
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Erik le Rouge on October 14, 2018, 10:56:52 pm
First of all a huge huge congrats to the 8th for the fight they put up tonight, and for the overall progression they've shown since they formed up. They became one of the best cavalry regiments, not only of recent times, but of the whole history of this game. I'm glad the final was against them tonight and it truly lived up to its expectation.

A huge thanks to Nytek for hosting this Cup. I thought this tournament was very fun and enjoyable. I like the single-elimination format, it always brings amazing tournaments. Everyone got into the league-system a bit too much imo, it's always great to have shorter, more intense competitions like this cup. Thanks again for it.

Looking forward to more entertaining competition, hopefully pretty soon. :)

gg friends!! at 3-4 erik bribed me to lose so this is why!!!!!!

true

No strip tease from Cage unfortunately.

erik obviously didnt want it to happen

untrue
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Rastignac on October 15, 2018, 11:55:35 am
I like the single-elimination format, it always brings amazing tournaments. Everyone got into the league-system a bit too much imo, it's always great to have shorter, more intense competitions like this cup. Thanks again for it.

Disagreed here. First of all, what do you mean by "shorter and more intense", this competition surely took a while and had maybe 2-3 tense matches, with very long intervals in-between.

Regiments disbanding/leaving + single elimination format = ruined tournament. League system works like insurance if the pool of participants changes when it's too late to make adjustments. In case of single elimination, there's not much you can do. Hence such oddities as, for example, my regiment entering the competition in semi-finals. We didn't play good enough to realize this scenario, but it still meant that the "cup" could have been won by a regiment that played merely two matches in its last stage. This shouldn't be an option, even technically.

Only bottom half of the 1st bracket went relatively smooth, with majority of the matches actually taking place. So only host's regiment enjoyed a wholesome tournament experience, which makes him look like kind of guy who invites people to a tea party and then pours a full cup of herbal delight only for himself, NOT vErY_nIcE!!!!
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Lorucas on October 15, 2018, 12:35:42 pm
I like the single-elimination format, it always brings amazing tournaments. Everyone got into the league-system a bit too much imo, it's always great to have shorter, more intense competitions like this cup. Thanks again for it.

Disagreed here. First of all, what do you mean by "shorter and more intense", this competition surely took a while and had maybe 2-3 tense matches, with very long intervals in-between.

Regiments disbanding/leaving + single elimination format = ruined tournament. League system works like insurance if the pool of participants changes when it's too late to make adjustments. In case of single elimination, there's not much you can do. Hence such oddities as, for example, my regiment entering the competition in semi-finals. We didn't play good enough to realize this scenario, but it still meant that the "cup" could have been won by a regiment that played merely two matches in its last stage. This shouldn't be an option, even technically.

Only bottom half of the 1st bracket went relatively smooth, with majority of the matches actually taking place. So only host's regiment enjoyed a wholesome tournament experience, which makes him look like kind of guy who invites people to a tea party and then pours a full cup of herbal delight only for himself, NOT vErY_nIcE!!!!

Rasti u left the pic of a cat crying.. why u dont like a single tournament that ppl organize? maybe u should have to organize one with ur rules or something.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Rastignac on October 15, 2018, 12:51:59 pm
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Rasti u left the pic of a cat crying.. why u dont like a single tournament that ppl organize? maybe u should have to organize one with ur rules or something.

What do u mean I don't like a single tournament ppl organize, I loved last CNWL - was enjoyable, fair and the best regiment won. And for your information, I did host a tournament in the past (it was before you learned to press "W"), one which has later served as a model for Cavalry_Groupfighting 5v5 tournament cycle.

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Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Lorucas on October 15, 2018, 01:46:50 pm
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Rasti u left the pic of a cat crying.. why u dont like a single tournament that ppl organize? maybe u should have to organize one with ur rules or something.

What do u mean I don't like a single tournament ppl organize, I loved last CNWL - was enjoyable, fair and the best regiment won. And for your information, I did host a tournament in the past (it was before you learned to press "W"), one which has later served as a model for Cavalry_Groupfighting 5v5 tournament cycle.

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So u like when u win, but u dont like when u lose.. sounds interesting. And idk how to press W yet, im learning slowly :-\
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Rastignac on October 15, 2018, 02:57:09 pm


So u like when u win, but u dont like when u lose.. sounds interesting.

Not quite that, I'm sure if you read my post ~10 times more, you'll see that it actually says what aspects of Nytek's tournament I disliked. If you have good arguments why a tournament in which some regiments play their first match four weeks after it starts, in which the 2nd bracket is played out before all teams have a chance to qualify for it is a good one, please, share them.

Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: King Stannis Baratheon on October 15, 2018, 07:07:46 pm
I like the single-elimination format, it always brings amazing tournaments. Everyone got into the league-system a bit too much imo, it's always great to have shorter, more intense competitions like this cup. Thanks again for it.

Disagreed here. First of all, what do you mean by "shorter and more intense", this competition surely took a while and had maybe 2-3 tense matches, with very long intervals in-between.

Regiments disbanding/leaving + single elimination format = ruined tournament. League system works like insurance if the pool of participants changes when it's too late to make adjustments. In case of single elimination, there's not much you can do. Hence such oddities as, for example, my regiment entering the competition in semi-finals. We didn't play good enough to realize this scenario, but it still meant that the "cup" could have been won by a regiment that played merely two matches in its last stage. This shouldn't be an option, even technically.

Only bottom half of the 1st bracket went relatively smooth, with majority of the matches actually taking place. So only host's regiment enjoyed a wholesome tournament experience, which makes him look like kind of guy who invites people to a tea party and then pours a full cup of herbal delight only for himself, NOT vErY_nIcE!!!!


The competition took like 3 extra weeks for the semi-finals and the final so both sides could bring their strongest team. For some it is also a busier time of year, it's not just the format of the tournaments fault for those delays. For me personally I would rather see 2 top quality teams bringing their all to a fight if it extends the tournament instead of 1 team easily destroying the other due to a lack of key players and so forth, also more fun to watch. I enjoyed the league format of the CNWL but it did still take quite a while to finish. This tournament did take longer than expected and some regiments leaving was unfortunate but it did provide some great competitive matches and I think that's what matters the most. I do think the league format would work better in the future though.

With regards to the 8th having a fun wholesome tournament experience, it certainly was but remember the brackets were random so the lack of matches for some regiments could've happened to us as well. It was mainly just unfortunate.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Erik le Rouge on October 15, 2018, 07:28:37 pm
I like the single-elimination format, it always brings amazing tournaments. Everyone got into the league-system a bit too much imo, it's always great to have shorter, more intense competitions like this cup. Thanks again for it.

Disagreed here. First of all, what do you mean by "shorter and more intense", this competition surely took a while and had maybe 2-3 tense matches, with very long intervals in-between.

Regiments disbanding/leaving + single elimination format = ruined tournament. League system works like insurance if the pool of participants changes when it's too late to make adjustments. In case of single elimination, there's not much you can do. Hence such oddities as, for example, my regiment entering the competition in semi-finals. We didn't play good enough to realize this scenario, but it still meant that the "cup" could have been won by a regiment that played merely two matches in its last stage. This shouldn't be an option, even technically.

Only bottom half of the 1st bracket went relatively smooth, with majority of the matches actually taking place. So only host's regiment enjoyed a wholesome tournament experience, which makes him look like kind of guy who invites people to a tea party and then pours a full cup of herbal delight only for himself, NOT vErY_nIcE!!!!

You mistook what I said for a criticism of the league format, and it really wasn't. I hosted 2 CNWLs, if I disliked the league format something would be pretty wrong.
All I was saying is that nowadays almost any hosted tournament is going to be either a proper league, or have a group stage to qualify to another stage etc. Which results in tournaments lasting at least a month, if not several.

Take the new 5v5 thing the 2Lr is hosting. It's going to last 6 weeks minimum. You were here back when 5v5 tournaments (the CavGF ones hosted by the K-KA) lasted one afternoon or a week-end maximum, those were fun as hell to play, and we could have plenty of them since they were short. I miss that format. Doesn't mean the league format is bad. Then again after promoting it like crazy back in the days I'd be a hypocrite to criticize it now.

If you're going to tell me this particular tournament lasted long although it was a single-elimination thing, read Stannis' reply as he explains it perfectly. Hosting a tournament right after the summer holidays is always tricky since class/work is resuming for most people and it makes it uneasy to organize stuff.

What I'd love for a next tournament would be a 1v1 or 2v2 cavalry tournament on single elimination. It's been AGES since we've had one of those. They were always fun and drama-free.
Title: Re: Hussars Cup EU (Started)
Post by: Rastignac on October 15, 2018, 07:44:23 pm
Fair points.

I agree that the short-term/small-team tournaments were super fun, but that's the thing - single elimination works well only in those cases, as a small team of friends is less likely to "disband" than a regiment. So let's have as many 1v1/2v2/5v5 as you want this way. However, for the bigger, regimental competitions, I'd still advocate the league format which grants everybody equal share of participation.

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With regards to the 8th having a fun wholesome tournament experience, it certainly was but remember the brackets were random

I will confess, I had some serious doubts about that. But if you say they were randomized, I'll just have to believe you here.