12th Election (June-Aug term) - Candidates and discussion

[Amit_]

It is hard to come up with something new.... organising events is not at all what my vision on community reps are for... I was around when they were created. Their original task was to be the voice, the filter of community issues (most notably on the forums) and to either solve these disputes without the involvement of the administration team. Or they could settle disputes between the community and the admin team. That's what they are for. Organising events in my opinion is besides the point of a CR... I support the initiatives of course, but it's community representative, not community event organiser. They're not a means to 'save the community and increase inactivity'... they're an impartial tool, part of the forum administration, but with their own mandate, impartial to the admins.

This goes back to what I said a year ago, questioning the role altogether:

Perhaps we should return to the function of the community representative and not focus so much on who votes for who. Ideally, everyone will vote for the person they feel will be able to fulfill the role most appropriately. There are some in the community, such as Karth, that many people do not hold in high regard, but those people are still members and will vote accordingly.

Going back to the points I made a few days ago (which everyone seemed to pass over for my comments on NANWL), is the term community representative really the correct term to use? Is that what people really want? Or do they want a community coordinator? A coordinator being someone who organizes public events and activities for the community as well as acting as an intermediary between regiments and forum staff. Because from what I've observed since the start of the position being created is that there is a lot of emphasis on CR's to do a lot more than the title suggests and do it without consistent support. As an example, the NA1 Revival was an admirable effort by numerous people, but it wasn't sustainable.

[Theodin]

I don't believe community reps are supposed to host events or help run things. The fact that it's a campaign promise is due to two things: that it's an easy promise to make (and is expected, kinda, now) and that people want to elect someone who will do something active, rather than passive. I always thought the CR was merely a conduit from the community to the moderation team, and to me, that's all that matters - who you trust to bring concerns to the mod team directly like the elected representative title suggests, but since this is a passive thing (merely waiting for a concern to come up) it's not a sexy thing to promise, and the easiest thing to promise is the active results of events.

What I'd like to see from CR applications (and CRs, really) is two things - a promise to communicate with the community and the moderation team and solve problems that occur between the two, and to connect often silenced communities (the pubs, cav, minor languages) with the mainstream. But everyone just wants a tournament or something, and that seems like a monumental waste of the position.

[AP0CALYPS3]

Eh. Questioning if people want a representative or coordinator is just semantics if you ask me. They are really both anyhow. When I was rep, I was more about the representing than the coordination, as I was more likely to take an interest in the forum administration than host events. For example, I was all over the closing of the PLG threads, certain bans, and other such stuff.

I think the way the system now is good. Each rep can take it upon themselves to define their role as they please. They are given the power to do so by the community in the form of a vote, and by the mods in what is essentially making them a temporary mod.

I don't see why each new rep needs to do something 'new' any way. As RiddleZ said, what new thing is there to do? Invade Taleworlds and take our rightful place as the rulers of their forums?

[Riddlez]

Eh. Questioning if people want a representative or coordinator is just semantics if you ask me. They are really both anyhow. When I was rep, I was more about the representing than the coordination, as I was more likely to take an interest in the forum administration than host events. For example, I was all over the closing of the PLG threads, certain bans, and other such stuff.

I think the way the system now is good. Each rep can take it upon themselves to define their role as they please. They are given the power to do so by the community in the form of a vote, and by the mods in what is essentially making them a temporary mod.

I don't see why each new rep needs to do something 'new' any way. As RiddleZ said, what new thing is there to do? Invade Taleworlds and take our rightful place as the rulers of their forums?

Sounds good. Vote for me and I'll make it happen.

[AP0CALYPS3]

Sure thing. Get the marching bands going, its time for some long overdue Anschluss.

[Dan the Seagull Chef]

I will vote for Dan because I believe he will create a prominent and flourishing Toontown guild.

God Bless Toontown

[Peppers]

Sure thing. Get the marching bands going, its time for some long overdue Anschluss.

You have my vote once again.

[Yvrul]

I don't believe community reps are supposed to host events or help run things. The fact that it's a campaign promise is due to two things: that it's an easy promise to make (and is expected, kinda, now) and that people want to elect someone who will do something active, rather than passive. I always thought the CR was merely a conduit from the community to the moderation team, and to me, that's all that matters - who you trust to bring concerns to the mod team directly like the elected representative title suggests, but since this is a passive thing (merely waiting for a concern to come up) it's not a sexy thing to promise, and the easiest thing to promise is the active results of events.

What I'd like to see from CR applications (and CRs, really) is two things - a promise to communicate with the community and the moderation team and solve problems that occur between the two, and to connect often silenced communities (the pubs, cav, minor languages) with the mainstream. But everyone just wants a tournament or something, and that seems like a monumental waste of the position.

^ NA cav is dead outside of PLG. Old 1LH crew brings 6-10 depending on who mercs.

[Theodin]

CR’s could have pretended to care about cav, seeing as how they’re in the community

[Yvrul]

CR’s could have pretended to care about cav, seeing as how they’re in the community

Would be nice if NA actually cared about cavalry or even pretend, but they don't. There is roughly 25~(if that) actual cavalry players left in NA who attend events regulalry. LIR bring more players for calvary slots than the actual cavalry regiments.

IB and I have try to get more people interested in it. Risk got hooked on it and has been enjoying cavalry events, but thats just one dude we been able to convert over for an event once a week.

[Theodin]

CR’s could have pretended to care about cav, seeing as how they’re in the community

Would be nice if NA actually cared about cavalry or even pretend, but they don't. There is roughly 25~(if that) actual cavalry players left in NA who attend events regulalry. LIR bring more players for calvary slots than the actual cavalry regiments.

IB and I have try to get more people interested in it. Risk got hooked on it and has been enjoying cavalry events, but thats just one dude we been able to convert over for an event once a week.

I tried to help!

[Thunderstormer]

Cav on NA was never that large.  even back in 2012-2013, there were not that many cav regiments.   There were a fair amount of cav detachments, but they didn't play cav that often.  Add on to that, some regiments made it a point to take members from specialty roles if they didn't have as many line infantry as they wanted.  So cav detachments were not really detachments at all.  I felt bad for the players who joined a regiment to play cav, only to be forced to play infantry all the time, or rarely play cav in general at events. 

After all these years, there have been only a few cav regiments that lasted more than a month or 2, or had more than 5 people in them. 

[Risk_]

CR’s could have pretended to care about cav, seeing as how they’re in the community

Would be nice if NA actually cared about cavalry or even pretend, but they don't. There is roughly 25~(if that) actual cavalry players left in NA who attend events regulalry. LIR bring more players for calvary slots than the actual cavalry regiments.

IB and I have try to get more people interested in it. Risk got hooked on it and has been enjoying cavalry events, but thats just one dude we been able to convert over for an event once a week.

yeah I like cav. IB and 1erCG is also very cool group of guys.

[BabyJesus]

CR’s could have pretended to care about cav, seeing as how they’re in the community

Would be nice if NA actually cared about cavalry or even pretend, but they don't. There is roughly 25~(if that) actual cavalry players left in NA who attend events regulalry. LIR bring more players for calvary slots than the actual cavalry regiments.

IB and I have try to get more people interested in it. Risk got hooked on it and has been enjoying cavalry events, but thats just one dude we been able to convert over for an event once a week.

yeah I like cav. IB and 1erCG is also very cool group of guys.

nice to see risk hanging out with his fellow weebs

[Risk_]

CR’s could have pretended to care about cav, seeing as how they’re in the community

Would be nice if NA actually cared about cavalry or even pretend, but they don't. There is roughly 25~(if that) actual cavalry players left in NA who attend events regulalry. LIR bring more players for calvary slots than the actual cavalry regiments.

IB and I have try to get more people interested in it. Risk got hooked on it and has been enjoying cavalry events, but thats just one dude we been able to convert over for an event once a week.

yeah I like cav. IB and 1erCG is also very cool group of guys.

nice to see risk hanging out with his fellow weebs