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Title: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on September 29, 2013, 05:44:46 am
N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) 
6:00 EST

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.staticflickr.com%2F37%2F82260954_f540bdf4b1.jpg&hash=d3a36754ba8ed083a9253255afb16e3b09c9a371)

Attending Legions:

Saturday:
Spoiler
Companions 15-25
Legio III 10-20
S*P*R*G 6-15
Bavarii 6-15
Legio XXIII 7-15
Cohors Prae 8-20
Legio DMX 15-20
Socii 15-20
53rd 8-13
Legio VIII 10
Legio XXI 10-20
Sons 5-10
9th Legion 15-20
EQFL 10+
Legio I Germanica 10-15
[close]

General Rules:

1) If a group has more than 3 people they may if they choose form a second group of NON light infantry and Non Cavalry. Light infantry includes Slingers, 4 Pila throwers, Archers. Cavalry is not permitted at all even dismounted as they have a significant weapon advantage (Unless they sign up under specialists)
 
2) Legions must act as a group and be in a relative formation. Relative formation means a spacing of no more than three men when attacking.
 
3) Must join a friendly legion if you are less than 3 people.
 
4) No ramboing.
 
5) No trolling.
 
6) Respect everyone on the server.
 
7) Do not delay.
 
8 Listen to admins at all times.

Application to attend:
Legion Application:
Legion Name:
Expected Attendance:
Steam Name:
FSE Thread:
Are you the leader?:

Please add [XI] Getty and Devmc99 on STEAM if you have any questions!

Specialist Role Application:
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Legion Name:
Expected Attendance:
Specialist Role:
Steam Name:




THE KPR/GETTY FAMILY OF EVENTS:

KPR Monday NW Line Battle 8PM EST
KPR Wed NW Siege Event 8PM EST
Getty Bello Civili Sat Event 6PM EST
Getty NACE Sat NW Line Battle 8PM EST
KPR/Getty Sun Bello Civili Event 6PM EST

We also fully support:
FH Thursday CTF Event 8PM EST
7Y NW Friday Line Battle 8PM EST
7NA Sunday North&South Event 8PM EST

You may contact Kolakhan, Getty or Sparhawk for info on any event.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on September 29, 2013, 05:49:50 am
*Reserved*
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on September 29, 2013, 05:50:05 am
*Moar Reserve*
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Milesbot on September 29, 2013, 06:48:26 am
Admin Application

Name: Milesbot

Steam Name (and profile link): Milesbot https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971984269/

Reason you'd like to be an admin?: I enjoy being an admin and think i'm not too horrendous

Previous admin experience (If any).: I'm an Admin on N_A_C_E NW event and on a teamspeak server
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: William on September 29, 2013, 05:07:05 pm
Legion Name: Legio XXIII Imperium

Attendance: 10-15

Role: Cavalry if it's available, infantry if not

Steam: You have me Getty

Something about yourself:
I go 20-1 on NA_1 with hussar

Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Marceaux on October 01, 2013, 10:38:39 am
What time is this planned?
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 02, 2013, 03:33:11 am
What time is this planned?
Thinking it will be saturday at 6pm est
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Marceaux on October 02, 2013, 09:17:15 am
What time is this planned?
Thinking it will be saturday at 6pm est

Sounds perfect. XXI will attend.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Eoin on October 03, 2013, 07:22:52 pm
Saturday sounds good.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: William on October 03, 2013, 09:27:31 pm
How about Wednesday or Saturday. Those are the best for most since we don't have any NW events or anything else to interfere with.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 06:38:35 am
It is going to be saturday at 6pm est *confirming it now*
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Marceaux on October 04, 2013, 10:06:25 pm
It is going to be saturday at 6pm est *confirming it now*

Tomorrow it will happen or no?
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: William on October 04, 2013, 10:06:52 pm
Would be nice to have an event tomorrow, also, might want to get the thread up and running.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 10:19:17 pm
Would be nice to have an event tomorrow, also, might want to get the thread up and running.
Planning on  doing both of those try and bring some more people to sign up here once I have the format up and everyone make sure you have me on steam if you don't already
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: William on October 04, 2013, 10:21:08 pm
Would be nice to have an event tomorrow, also, might want to get the thread up and running.
Planning on  doing both of those try and bring some more people to sign up here once I have the format up and everyone make sure you have me on steam if you don't already

Went ahead and removed you  ::)

Any specialists roles, for example cavalry;artillery, would be nice to do that.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 10:35:06 pm
Would be nice to have an event tomorrow, also, might want to get the thread up and running.
Planning on  doing both of those try and bring some more people to sign up here once I have the format up and everyone make sure you have me on steam if you don't already

Went ahead and removed you  ::)

Any specialists roles, for example cavalry;artillery, would be nice to do that.
Maybe I could use some help with the rules and getting a fair amount of people in if we get both it shouldn't be an issue
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: William on October 04, 2013, 10:36:05 pm
If you mean admin, I'm there with my legion  ;)
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 10:44:15 pm
If you mean admin, I'm there with my legion  ;)
No I literally meant help me with the rules not admin <.< Also the new format for the first page is up credit to devmc for stealing most of the work from another thread so I didn't have to  :)
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 10:48:18 pm
The sooner you guys do the apps the sooner I will be able to decide if we have enough for specialist don't worry I will annoy the crap out of you guys till you get this done.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Devmc99 on October 04, 2013, 10:54:29 pm
Legion Name: Legio III Gallica
Expected Attendance: 10-20
Steam Name: You got me
FSE Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9095.0
Are you the leader?: Yes
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 04, 2013, 10:57:50 pm
Legion Name: S*P*R*G
Expected Attendance: 6-15.
Steam Name: You have it already Getty.
Are you the leader?: Yes.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 11:12:05 pm
Legion Name: S*P*R*G
Expected Attendance: 6-15.
Steam Name: You have it already Getty.
Are you the leader?: Yes.
Accepted!
Legion Name: Legio III Gallica
Expected Attendance: 10-20
Steam Name: You got me
FSE Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9095.0
Are you the leader?: Yes
Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Ritz407 on October 04, 2013, 11:24:21 pm
Legion Name: Bavarii
Expected Attendance: 6-15 (currently)
Steam Name: [2eJeune]Ritz407
FSE Thread: N/A
Are you the leader?: Yes.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 11:29:41 pm
Legion Name: Bavarii
Expected Attendance: 6-15 (currently)
Steam Name: [2eJeune]Ritz407
FSE Thread: N/A
Are you the leader?: Yes.

Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: William on October 04, 2013, 11:45:31 pm
Legion Name:
Legio XXIII "Imperium"

Expected Attendance:
7-15

Steam Name:

You have me
FSE Thread:
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8845.0 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8845.0)

Are you the leader?:
Yes


Specialists Application:


Legion Name:
Legio XXIII "Imperium"

Expected Attendance:
7-15

Specialist Role:
Cavalry

Steam Name:
You got me
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 04, 2013, 11:53:37 pm
Legion Name:
Legio XXIII "Imperium"

Expected Attendance:
7-15

Steam Name:

You have me
FSE Thread:
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8845.0 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8845.0)

Are you the leader?:
Yes


Specialists Application:


Legion Name:
Legio XXIII "Imperium"

Expected Attendance:
7-15

Specialist Role:
Cavalry

Steam Name:
You got me
Accepted! But cav is a maybe at this point.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: rocknok2 on October 05, 2013, 12:03:42 am
Legion Name: Cohors Praetoriani
Expected Attendance: 8 - 20
Specialist Role: Infantry
Steam Name: You already have me
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 05, 2013, 12:04:47 am
Legion Name: Cohors Praetoriani
Expected Attendance: 8 - 20
Specialist Role: Infantry
Steam Name: You already have me
Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Milesbot on October 05, 2013, 12:11:22 am
Legion Name: Legio DMX
Expected Attendance: 15-20
Steam Name: Milesbot
FSE Thread: Not about that life
Are you the leader?: No, co Centurian of second cohort, signing up for IB
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA)
Post by: Getty on October 05, 2013, 12:12:14 am
Legion Name: Legio DMX
Expected Attendance: 15-20
Steam Name: Milesbot
FSE Thread: Not about that life
Are you the leader?: No, co Centurian of second cohort, signing up for IB

Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Grimsight on October 05, 2013, 12:20:56 am
Legion Name: Socii_Extraodinarii
Expected Attendance: 15-20
Steam Name: [3eVolt] Grimsight and [3eVolt] Socrates
FSE Thread: not enough funding for that mang
Are you the leader?: I co-lead with Socrates.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 05, 2013, 12:22:57 am
Legion Name: Socii_Extraodinarii
Expected Attendance: 15-20
Steam Name: [3eVolt] Grimsight and [3eVolt] Socrates
FSE Thread: not enough funding for that mang
Are you the leader?: I co-lead with Socrates.
Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Estogamo on October 05, 2013, 02:10:25 am
Legion Name: (Not a Legion) 6th Brigade
Expected Attendance: 8-13
Steam Name: 6THBRG
FSE Thread: NONE
Are you the leader?: Yes.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 05, 2013, 03:13:41 am
Legion Name: (Not a Legion) 6th Brigade
Expected Attendance: 8-13
Steam Name: 6THBRG
FSE Thread: NONE
Are you the leader?: Yes.
Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Eatjello on October 05, 2013, 04:59:03 am

Legion Name:Spes Pœniténtibus [Legio~VIII]  Tags [Legio~VIII]~Name
Expected Attendance: 10
Specialist Role: N/A
Steam Name: Eatjello

Etian Americae Infernus


Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Marceaux on October 05, 2013, 05:40:55 am
Legion Name: Legio XXI
Expected Attendance: 10-20
Steam Name:[XXI] Maccius
FSE Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=7161.0 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=7161.0)
Are you the leader?: Yes.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 05, 2013, 05:46:23 am
Legion Name: Legio XXI
Expected Attendance: 10-20
Steam Name:[XXI] Maccius
FSE Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=7161.0 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=7161.0)
Are you the leader?: Yes.

Legion Name:Spes Pœniténtibus [Legio~VIII]  Tags [Legio~VIII]~Name
Expected Attendance: 10
Specialist Role: N/A
Steam Name: Eatjello

Etian Americae Infernus



Both accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Captain America on October 05, 2013, 11:56:54 pm
Legion Name: Sons of Bacchus
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Steam Name: Captain America
FSE Thread: N/A (at least, not at the moment)
Are you the leader?: Nope, that's Ageati
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: William on October 06, 2013, 01:08:28 am
Had a great time, XXIII was doing great as cavalry.  8)

Do you think we could do this another day as well, for example on Wednesday too.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 06, 2013, 01:20:31 am
A decent event, we'll stick being just Legions until we work out some of the growing pains. Maps with single bridge choke points do kind of suck though, try and avoid them in the future :).

Also, It'd be nice to get solid numbers so we can get rid of that weird mouldy RaW rule system.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 06, 2013, 04:23:43 am
A decent event, we'll stick being just Legions until we work out some of the growing pains. Maps with single bridge choke points do kind of suck though, try and avoid them in the future :).

Also, It'd be nice to get solid numbers so we can get rid of that weird mouldy RaW rule system.
I am aiming for 150 numbers wise next week I like to set growth goals :D
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Captain_Ageati on October 06, 2013, 07:43:32 pm
Legion Name: Sons of Bacchus
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Steam Name: Captain America
FSE Thread: N/A (at least, not at the moment)
Are you the leader?: Nope, that's Ageati


Legion Name: Sons of Bacchus
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Steam Name: Ageati
FSE Thread:  https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9371.0
Are you the leader?: Yes
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 06, 2013, 10:29:25 pm
Legion Name: Sons of Bacchus
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Steam Name: Captain America
FSE Thread: N/A (at least, not at the moment)
Are you the leader?: Nope, that's Ageati


Legion Name: Sons of Bacchus
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Steam Name: Ageati
FSE Thread:  https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9371.0
Are you the leader?: Yes
Accepted
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: super_ninja185 on October 08, 2013, 06:45:12 am
Legion Name: 9th Legion
Expected Attendance: 15-20
Steam Name: you already have me
FSE Thread: none atm
Role: Greek Mercenaries or Archers when available
Are you the leader?: yes
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Captain_Ageati on October 08, 2013, 08:23:09 pm
Just to add Getty, Sons of Bacchus are also Greek Mercenaries or Greek Auxillia (Creten archers or Balearic slingers)
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Parrot on October 10, 2013, 01:25:44 am
Legion Name: EQFL (Equestrian Foreign Legion)
Expected Attendance: 10 (perhaps more on a good night)
Steam Name: ExParrot
Are you the leader?: Nope but I do most of the work, the leader is Charme...

If it's alright with you, we'll check out our first event or two, and see if our schedule doesn't get too busy on a Saturday...
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 10, 2013, 01:47:59 am
Legion Name: EQFL (Equestrian Foreign Legion)
Expected Attendance: 10 (perhaps more on a good night)
Steam Name: ExParrot
Are you the leader?: Nope but I do most of the work, the leader is Charme...

If it's alright with you, we'll check out our first event or two, and see if our schedule doesn't get too busy on a Saturday...
Added to the list Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: William on October 10, 2013, 10:36:10 pm
Legion Name: XXIII Imperium
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Specialist Role: Cavalry
Steam Name: Got Me


Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Harcourt on October 12, 2013, 10:21:35 pm
Legion Name: Legio I Germanica
Expected Attendance: 10-15
Steam Name: Joe1924
FSE Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9600.0
Are you the leader?: Yes
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on October 12, 2013, 10:31:00 pm
Legion Name: Legio I Germanica
Expected Attendance: 10-15
Steam Name: Joe1924
FSE Thread: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9600.0
Are you the leader?: Yes
Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Romulus on October 12, 2013, 11:09:27 pm
Legion Name: Legio LII Romani
Expected Attendance:5-ish
Steam Name: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044437263
FSE Thread: N/A
Are you the leader?: Yes
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Slawtering on October 19, 2013, 11:10:09 pm
Legion Name: Sons Of Adrestia
Expected Attendance: 7-10
Specialist Role: Greek Mercenary
Steam Name: Slawtering (You got it)





Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 24, 2013, 04:05:50 pm
I'm back and have my PC all fixed, we'll be attending again this week!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Omnipotente on October 24, 2013, 06:52:50 pm
Legion Name: Klerouchoi Agema
Expected Attendance: 7-15
Steam Name(s):slytacular, Omnipotente, Robo_Sock
FSE thread: WIP https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9827.0
Are you leader?: No, commander is slytacular.

Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Slawtering on October 26, 2013, 11:26:54 pm
Legion Name: Sons Of Adrestia
Expected Attendance: 5-10
Specialist Role: Greek Mercenary or If Ptolemaic, Phalanx
Steam Name: Slawtering (You got it)
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Kolakhan on November 04, 2013, 03:45:45 pm
Legion Name:KPR
Expected Attendance:10-15
Steam Name:Kolakhan
FSE Thread:
Are you the leader?:yes

Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on November 06, 2013, 02:42:06 am
All apps above are accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 09, 2013, 11:19:41 pm
Hope the server will be up for the event tonight!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Hodor on November 16, 2013, 08:45:03 pm
Legion Name: Golden Kingdom

Expected Attendance: 6-8

Steam Name: Jeep3rs

FSE Thread: N?A

Are you the leader?: There's no leader (in-game leadership done by several individuals), but I'm currently organizing our participation in this event.

I'm hoping to drum up more attendance for later events, will let you know if the expected number changes before the next event. We're also participating in the Sunday event.  :)
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on November 26, 2013, 03:56:09 am
Legion Name: Golden Kingdom

Expected Attendance: 6-8

Steam Name: Jeep3rs

FSE Thread: N?A

Are you the leader?: There's no leader (in-game leadership done by several individuals), but I'm currently organizing our participation in this event.

I'm hoping to drum up more attendance for later events, will let you know if the expected number changes before the next event. We're also participating in the Sunday event.  :)
Accepted!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on December 28, 2013, 10:08:11 pm
Cancelling BC today until some more groups get back :/
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: SeanBeansShako on January 07, 2014, 12:43:33 am
Whats going on with this event? we're willing to return for this coming weekend!
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Parrot on January 07, 2014, 01:04:32 am
Whats going on with this event? we're willing to return for this coming weekend!

We'll be there as well! Don't loose hope  :(
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Eatjello on January 08, 2014, 09:22:07 am
Whats going on with this event? we're willing to return for this coming weekend!

We'll be there as well! Don't loose hope  :(

getty didn't remind me so like a noob I went to go work out #facepalm  ::)
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Getty on January 09, 2014, 02:46:32 am
I'm cancelling the event was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: SeanBeansShako on January 11, 2014, 08:16:36 pm
Awww, well that sucks :(. Thanks for the good times while it lasted. If you bring it back with the next update hit me and my guys up.
Title: Re: N_A_C_E *Getty's* Bello Civili (NA) *6pm Est*
Post by: Euget on September 06, 2014, 07:14:46 am
I can bring the 27th to a NA Roman Civil War event, if you guys are up for starting it up again, I think we can get pretty decent numbers, try to branch out to the other regiments, try to get them again!

LET'S GET THIS UP!