Joer's Naval Workshop

[Mailman653]

Shirts? Yes please!

[Burakkuada]

I'll make a video just showing the shouts so people know what they're getting

[joer5835]

What was wrong with the old bicorne? it was rotated the wrong way, but it was otherwise correct.

The only thing wrong with the captain's coat is the facing colours are wrong. They were only blue between 1797 and 1812, when they switched them back to white. The lapels and cuffs (but not the cuff-flaps) should be white.

I agree with the Bicorne, do note that the picture is not representing the actual looks of the reskin. I still have to give the new Bicorne model an accurate texture.

And to be honest, I am more looking to create uniforms that were used in 1805, at the time of Trafalgar. Yes, I know NW is based on the Hundred Days, but I do think 1805 and a litttle before that is how most people remmeber the 19th century Royal Navy. I also will give the Captain epaulettes on both shoulders. To make clear he has seen more than 3 years of service as a captain.

[Docm30]

Well, in that case the native uniform is the correct 1795 captain's uniform. So, besides the epaulettes, there's nothing that really needs to be done to it.

[joer5835]

I doubt that.



This is closer to what was used in 1805

[Wismar]

I doubt that.



This is closer to what was used in 1805

Jag gillar

[Charles William]

I doubt that.



This is closer to what was used in 1805

yes please  like that uniform

[Googly]

I doubt that.



This is closer to what was used in 1805

You doubt doc's immense knowledge? D: How dare you! xD

But yeah this is a real uniform in a museum so yeah:

http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/71257.html

Base it off that.

[Docm30]

I doubt that.



This is closer to what was used in 1805

That's a fantasy uniform. Only officers' full dress retained that cut in the 1795 regulations, the undress uniform was cut as seen in NW, and it lacks the lacing of full dress. By 1800, however, the undress cut had been effectively adopted universally for the full dress coat. This is confirmed by by contemporary images, such as this 1804 portrait of Sir Edward Pellew. This 1806 painting of the death of Nelson shows all officers except Nelson and a lieutenant on the weather deck in the cut seen in NW. This 1807 painting shows a similar situation. And of course there is this 1807 portrait of Captain Tom Foley that the NW uniform is surely based on.

Or take this 1806 portrait of Captain Peter Rainier, or this 1802 portrait of Captain Samuel Linzee or any of the several dozen other images I can provide. There may not have been any official changes to the uniforms between 1795 and 1812, but they unquestionably did change.

That museum piece is the regulation 1795 full dress coat, but as Hood died in 1798, he wouldn't have had a chance to adopt the later style that had become the standard by Trafalgar.

You're more than welcome to make the uniform how ever you please, but it won't be accurate for 1805.

[Googly]

That's a fantasy uniform. Only officers' full dress retained that cut in the 1795 regulations, the undress uniform was cut as seen in NW, and it lacks the lacing of full dress. By 1800, however, the undress cut had been effectively adopted universally for the full dress coat. This is confirmed by by contemporary images, such as this 1804 portrait of Sir Edward Pellew. This 1806 painting of the death of Nelson shows all officers except Nelson and a lieutenant on the weather deck in the cut seen in NW. This 1807 painting shows a similar situation. And of course there is this 1807 portrait of Captain Tom Foley that the NW uniform is surely based on.

Or take this 1806 portrait of Captain Peter Rainier, or this 1802 portrait of Captain Samuel Linzee or any of the several dozen other images I can provide. There may not have been any official changes to the uniforms between 1795 and 1812, but they unquestionably did change.

That museum piece is the regulation 1795 full dress coat, but as Hood died in 1798, he wouldn't have had a chance to adopt the later style that had become the standard by Trafalgar.

You're more than welcome to make the uniform how ever you please, but it won't be accurate for 1805.

Gather round children, it's time for the 'why you're incredibly wrong and should feel ashamed' speech! xD

[Mr. Kochi]

GIVE ME CAPTAIN PELLEW!

[joer5835]

For now, I will make two reskins. One like I posted in that picture and one more accurate to the post 1800 period.

[Charles William]

I doubt that.



This is closer to what was used in 1805

That's a fantasy uniform. Only officers' full dress retained that cut in the 1795 regulations, the undress uniform was cut as seen in NW, and it lacks the lacing of full dress. By 1800, however, the undress cut had been effectively adopted universally for the full dress coat. This is confirmed by by contemporary images, such as this 1804 portrait of Sir Edward Pellew. This 1806 painting of the death of Nelson shows all officers except Nelson and a lieutenant on the weather deck in the cut seen in NW. This 1807 painting shows a similar situation. And of course there is this 1807 portrait of Captain Tom Foley that the NW uniform is surely based on.

Or take this 1806 portrait of Captain Peter Rainier, or this 1802 portrait of Captain Samuel Linzee or any of the several dozen other images I can provide. There may not have been any official changes to the uniforms between 1795 and 1812, but they unquestionably did change.

That museum piece is the regulation 1795 full dress coat, but as Hood died in 1798, he wouldn't have had a chance to adopt the later style that had become the standard by Trafalgar.

You're more than welcome to make the uniform how ever you please, but it won't be accurate for 1805.

oh god who cares about accuracy this uniform looks so nice!! 

[Crayon]

I actually prefer the later one.

It's simple and more practical but it still looks awesome.

That early one looks a bit too fancy dress.

[joer5835]

I've been poking around in the files to see if I could find a solution to the shirtless sailors. So far, I have found a way to give them shirts...

BUT...

I do not posses a model that is suitteable to replace the naked bodies, the bodies are longer than most models used by NW so even if you replace them with some other model you will see an empty area around the belly. It will be simply hollow.

I currently do not have the knowledge or the tools to edit rigged meshes (models that are capable of performing animations). I'll look into it, but I'm not sure if I am the one that can do it.