Their free speech is protected under the first amendment to comment however they wish about politics or the current system. Just leave the law to whoever actually takes illegal actions as a means for political change. Otherwise you are honestly being a cry baby
Antifa is a loose collection of groups with similar ideologies who have no centralized organization or directivecommie scum
Many antifa groups just talk and inform
Your idea of it is essentially the same thing as thinking that the manosphere has a leader and organized agenda
Also nowhere did I say I support them but you are essentially proclaiming that they ought to be slain for a portion of them committing crimes which often would not even invoke the death penalty
Antifa is a loose collection of groups with similar ideologies who have no centralized organization or directiveStfu commie, death to antifa scum
Many antifa groups just talk and inform
Your idea of it is essentially the same thing as thinking that the manosphere has a leader and organized agenda
Also nowhere did I say I support them but you are essentially proclaiming that they ought to be slain for a portion of them committing crimes which often would not even invoke the death penalty
Antifa is a loose collection of groups with similar ideologies who have no centralized organization or directive
Many antifa groups just talk and inform
Your idea of it is essentially the same thing as thinking that the manosphere has a leader and organized agenda
Also nowhere did I say I support them but you are essentially proclaiming that they ought to be slain for a portion of them committing crimes which often would not even invoke the death penalty
Ok retards lolKys weeb
Antifa is a loose collection of groups with similar ideologies who have no centralized organization or directive
Many antifa groups just talk and inform
Your idea of it is essentially the same thing as thinking that the manosphere has a leader and organized agenda
Also nowhere did I say I support them but you are essentially proclaiming that they ought to be slain for a portion of them committing crimes which often would not even invoke the death penalty
Sounds like a bunch of retards that think anarchy is cool. Why would they allow militants into their groups if they did not support such actions? And if they have no clear directive then they have absolutely no purpose in doing what they are doing. They deserve a firing squad or at the very least a physical beating. And you are clearly defending them and their ideas/groups. Yet you said it yourself they are running around like a group of anarchist achieving nothing but a public disturbance and endangering peoples lives for no cause at all. Also 90% of them dress like they are coming to a BATTLE, so if they are peaceful why dress for war. And if their cause was truly just they wouldn't need to hide their faces like the COWARDS they are.
Just sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
Where I live (Norway) Antifa is more of a counterpart to increased marches of neo-nazi marches coming around in the Nordic countries. From what I've seen and know of the people involved they are 99% non-violent people except for an extreme minority. Even though there have been fights, I would say its worse in other countries.
Yeh just that the KKK is one single Organization with a single Head, while the Antifa is more of a label you can tag unto your own group. Its much more like anonymous where everyone can call himself anonymous or himself a part of anonymous but there isnt one single line in the AntifaJust sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
Hence why I said where I liveWhere I live (Norway) Antifa is more of a counterpart to increased marches of neo-nazi marches coming around in the Nordic countries. From what I've seen and know of the people involved they are 99% non-violent people except for an extreme minority. Even though there have been fights, I would say its worse in other countries.And there are countless other videos many of which are much longer so i wont bother linking them.Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WzMZxT-41k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQ_LJDCUXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
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Just sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
Yeh just that the KKK is one single Organization with a single Head, while the Antifa is more of a label you can tag unto your own group. Its much more like anonymous where everyone can call himself anonymous or himself a part of anonymous but there isnt one single line in the AntifaJust sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
And Yes i defend the Antifa because where i come from, Germany, they are a much needed counterweight to tens of thousands of Neo Nazis and other militant extreme right wingers who straight up want to overthrow the government and kill Politicians with opposing views. Assuming ur French you must connect the Antifa closely to the Yellow Wests (idk how theyre called in english tbf) and the French Communist Party but atleast in germany most of the Antifa only share the label of Antifa and the idea of being Anti-Fascist
associating to any extremist group, be it antifa, neo-nazi, etc. means you are pretty much braindead ;)
After the Death of Walther Lübcke (german regional politician who got killed by right wing extremists due to his stances during the refugee crisis for those who dont know him) and the reactions of the political right im kinda lost on the counterargument of G20 against the imo very real threat of the Nordkreuz movement, the different Völkischen Movements and so on.Yeh just that the KKK is one single Organization with a single Head, while the Antifa is more of a label you can tag unto your own group. Its much more like anonymous where everyone can call himself anonymous or himself a part of anonymous but there isnt one single line in the AntifaJust sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
And Yes i defend the Antifa because where i come from, Germany, they are a much needed counterweight to tens of thousands of Neo Nazis and other militant extreme right wingers who straight up want to overthrow the government and kill Politicians with opposing views. Assuming ur French you must connect the Antifa closely to the Yellow Wests (idk how theyre called in english tbf) and the French Communist Party but atleast in germany most of the Antifa only share the label of Antifa and the idea of being Anti-Fascist
G20? And the counterweight to extremism isn't extremism, it's moderate Democracy. The constant battling between the left and the right in Germany is not benefical for the political climate.
After the Death of Walther Lübcke (german regional politician who got killed by right wing extremists due to his stances during the refugee crisis for those who dont know him) and the reactions of the political right im kinda lost on the counterargument of G20 against the imo very real threat of the Nordkreuz movement, the different Völkischen Movements and so on.
You cant discuss with someone who is Hellbend on ending your democracy and moderate democrats dont have any reason to be violent or extremist in germany rn so i dont see anyone defending democracy when the "Tag X" is coming. The Nazis are planning for it while moderates still seem to think the real threat is coming from extreme lefts protesting against capitalism
And Yes i defend the Antifa because where i come from, Germany, they are a much needed counterweight to tens of thousands of Neo Nazis and other militant extreme right wingers who straight up want to overthrow the government and kill Politicians with opposing views. Assuming ur French you must connect the Antifa closely to the Yellow Wests (idk how theyre called in english tbf) and the French Communist Party but atleast in germany most of the Antifa only share the label of Antifa and the idea of being Anti-Fascist
we should just nuke the entire earth fuck human beings"bUt lIfE iS pReCiOuS!!!"
associating to any extremist group, be it antifa, neo-nazi, etc. means you are pretty much braindead ;)
couldn't agree more
Just sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
You still don't get it
He isn't defending the violent ones. He was referencing the antifa movement as a whole.
Being part of an antifa proclaimed group does not = you are a law breaking criminal engaging in terrorist acts
Your knowledge of the subject is ultra surface level and seemingly only stemming from news headliners from FOX news
Your personal attacks are ultra invalid too due to their false premise
associating to any extremist group, be it antifa, neo-nazi, etc. means you are pretty much braindead ;)
couldn't agree more
This. ^Just sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
You still don't get it
He isn't defending the violent ones. He was referencing the antifa movement as a whole.
Being part of an antifa proclaimed group does not = you are a law breaking criminal engaging in terrorist acts
Your knowledge of the subject is ultra surface level and seemingly only stemming from news headliners from FOX news
Your personal attacks are ultra invalid too due to their false premise
Ok retard let me make this real simple for you.
If you knowingly join in with a mixed group of people that have no clear motive or organization and have a reputation for extremism and violence then it does not matter if you are also violent as well. Because you chose to align yourself with those people. Making you apart of their chaotic retarded group therefore giving up your right to claim innocence. And if they did not support the extremism and violent people within Antifa then why would they come out with them at all? Why not join a different group or start their own group. Instead they just join a mob that you said yourself has no clear directive or organization aka anarchy. Partaking in it in any fashion makes you apart of the problem. And you can try and deny VIDEO evidence all you want but there are clearly 100's of videos of Antifa mobs violently attacking innocent people. And to compare Antifa to Anon really makes you a fucking idiot. So go ahead keep defending these retards you idiot. I bet your ass if they came to your city and fucked up one of your family members or friends or even you. Your dumb ass opinion would change quickly. You clearly do not understand a mob mentality and those that partake in it.
Go out and see this shit in person and then try and defend these braindead animals. Try and reason with them like we are talking here and they would beat you down in the street and leave you to die if you had a different view or opinion.
Also i LOVE how you tried to highlight the ONE fox video i posted and paint me as a far right supporter. When in fact i do not truly support any political party in america because i do not believe in joining a side because there should not be opposing sides in a nation. I have a strong mix of Democratic and Republican views. I make up my own mind and i don't follow others brainlessly like these ANTIFA fucks. And to clarify my position further i do not support Trump. But you do not see me donning armor and a mask to go beat up anyone that thinks otherwise.
associating to any extremist group, be it antifa, neo-nazi, etc. means you are pretty much braindead ;)
couldn't agree more
This. ^Just sayin, the only thing true for every Antifa group is the anti fascist part
so if you want to execute an group just on the base of being part of the antifa boi ive got some bad news for you and your selfimage
Yes some are violent, most are not, some are comunists/anarchists etc, most are just left leaning ppl with a thing against nazis
That is like joining the KKK because you agree with 1 of their 1000 ideas then claiming innocence. You must be retarded to do such. And to affiliate yourself with militants you are asking for trouble. And obviously i do not literally think they should all be shot but you get my point. And again i see some fuck boy defending a group of morons. You make it pretty clear what type of person you are if you attempt to provide justification for these sub-human creatures.
You still don't get it
He isn't defending the violent ones. He was referencing the antifa movement as a whole.
Being part of an antifa proclaimed group does not = you are a law breaking criminal engaging in terrorist acts
Your knowledge of the subject is ultra surface level and seemingly only stemming from news headliners from FOX news
Your personal attacks are ultra invalid too due to their false premise
Ok retard let me make this real simple for you.
If you knowingly join in with a mixed group of people that have no clear motive or organization and have a reputation for extremism and violence then it does not matter if you are also violent as well. Because you chose to align yourself with those people. Making you apart of their chaotic retarded group therefore giving up your right to claim innocence. And if they did not support the extremism and violent people within Antifa then why would they come out with them at all? Why not join a different group or start their own group. Instead they just join a mob that you said yourself has no clear directive or organization aka anarchy. Partaking in it in any fashion makes you apart of the problem. And you can try and deny VIDEO evidence all you want but there are clearly 100's of videos of Antifa mobs violently attacking innocent people. And to compare Antifa to Anon really makes you a fucking idiot. So go ahead keep defending these retards you idiot. I bet your ass if they came to your city and fucked up one of your family members or friends or even you. Your dumb ass opinion would change quickly. You clearly do not understand a mob mentality and those that partake in it.
Go out and see this shit in person and then try and defend these braindead animals. Try and reason with them like we are talking here and they would beat you down in the street and leave you to die if you had a different view or opinion.
Also i LOVE how you tried to highlight the ONE fox video i posted and paint me as a far right supporter. When in fact i do not truly support any political party in america because i do not believe in joining a side because there should not be opposing sides in a nation. I have a strong mix of Democratic and Republican views. I make up my own mind and i don't follow others brainlessly like these ANTIFA fucks. And to clarify my position further i do not support Trump. But you do not see me donning armor and a mask to go beat up anyone that thinks otherwise.
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
That's probably for the best...
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
That's probably for the best...
Yeah because you have given alot of input here you fucking retard. Speak up pussy? Lets hear your opinion on the matter? Instead of commenting b.s because you're scared to put your dumb ass thoughts out there.
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
That's probably for the best...
Yeah because you have given alot of input here you fucking retard. Speak up pussy? Lets hear your opinion on the matter? Instead of commenting b.s because you're scared to put your dumb ass thoughts out there.
He’s supporting you, you retard
0 reading comprehension
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
That's probably for the best...
Yeah because you have given alot of input here you fucking retard. Speak up pussy? Lets hear your opinion on the matter? Instead of commenting b.s because you're scared to put your dumb ass thoughts out there.
He’s supporting you, you retard
0 reading comprehension
That's a nice meme.. No I don't think you should be able to execute people based on their affiliation too an organization.
Still you.
Now you are defending the KKK. "liKe mE aT a TOp 30 uS uniVERSiTy." Yeah it takes alot of intelligence to listen to another human tell you things and read from a book. You are a real genius my guy. You are the type to join Antifa. This will be my last response to you.
That's probably for the best...
Yeah because you have given alot of input here you fucking retard. Speak up pussy? Lets hear your opinion on the matter? Instead of commenting b.s because you're scared to put your dumb ass thoughts out there.
He’s supporting you, you retard
0 reading comprehension
Also nice job not conceding all the inaccuracies I brought up about your view point and you just attempt to nit pick singular aspects of my arguments
Also lol at running away from the argument by refusing to respond and then PMing me bait which is unrelated to the discussion at hand
Still you.
He just rekt himself but sure.
And you just said if someone affiliates themselves with nazis they are completely innocent. Yeah you are a real smart one.
Being a Nazi is a crime. Supporting those beliefs is a crime. And it should be punishable by death because people that think such extreme things should be dealt with extremely.
Being a Nazi is a crime. Supporting those beliefs is a crime. And it should be punishable by death because people that think such extreme things should be dealt with extremely.
Again, anyone with a brain who actually studies something like Political Science (like me at a top 30 US University) can see that I'm not defending the violent actions of some of the antifa groups but merely explaining how your angry hot take is inaccurate and illogical for use of discussion. Also I never said you were a trump supporter nor do I even think he is a fascist so idk where you are getting your points from.
Again, anyone with a brain who actually studies something like Political Science (like me at a top 30 US University)
Being a Nazi is a crime. Supporting those beliefs is a crime. And it should be punishable by death because people that think such extreme things should be dealt with extremely.Again, anyone with a brain who actually studies something like Political Science (like me at a top 30 US University) can see that I'm not defending the violent actions of some of the antifa groups but merely explaining how your angry hot take is inaccurate and illogical for use of discussion. Also I never said you were a trump supporter nor do I even think he is a fascist so idk where you are getting your points from.
I feel like these two quotes summarize you both perfectly.
Marceaux...do you really not see how ironic that is? Killing people for their beliefs is EXACTLY how the worst of the Antifa and Neo-Nazi type scum think. It's not just as bad as the way they think, it's the exact same way they think. Your belief that they should be killed, doesn't make you better than them, it makes you exactly like them. And if we were to do things your way, you'd be one of the people who would have to be dealt with extremely.
Have some self awareness.
And Lawbringer.....do you REALLY think it takes someone who studies Political Science (at a top 30 university or otherwise) to be able to see what you've been doing? Or are you just including that so you can build up to throwing out that you study at a top 30 university?
Because one of those is asinine, and the other is both extremely pretentious, and very, very sad.
Again, anyone with a brain who actually studies something like Political Science (like me at a top 30 US University)Spoiler(https://media.giphy.com/media/aIZCU6xKBPtug/giphy.gif)[close]
yo marceaux are you in this pic?Hey look it's 90% of the Facebook groups that inhabit this great nation.
(https://i.imgur.com/wVsGIfd.jpg)
yo marceaux are you in this pic?
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Also technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
I didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. *snip*
I didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. *snip*
You know what, if we are bringing up groups that consist of good chunks of the American population that pose a direct threat to our democracy, then let’s talk about the biggest contributor to it.I agree with your sentiment but I am pessimistic concerning the future.
Evangelical Christianity.
These people are legitimately batshit insane. They deny empirical evidence, rigid observation, and even the common scientific consensus regarding climate change in order to bring about the Second Coming of Christ while maximizing corporate profits. They will exterminate all life on this little blue ball just to fulfill their delusional sense of grandeur, and will do so whatever the cost may be. These people require immediate mental health evaluations, but they counter it with their so called “faith”.
But it does not stop there. No no no, these quacks are everywhere in America. Teachers, doctors,
policemen, engineers, corporate executives, YOUR FUCKING NEIGHBOR EVEN, could be brainwashed by the Evangelical disease. They reproduce like bunnies in order to outvote any other major bloc in the country, and fully intend on triggering rapture within the next 50 years by following their suicidal doctrine. Their numbers run rampant across all levels of government in this country with little to no resistance. Nothing can stop these rampaging lunatics without immediate legal action, as the rest of the Christians in this nation refuse to address their fellow denomation as hypocrites who have poisoned and twisted the words of Christ.
Episcopalians, Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, Anglicans, Pentecostals, it doesn’t matter, as these poor fucks are either outnumbered or have drank the kool aid, and are now hellbent on breaking the Seventh Seal.
These people are FUCKING INSANE, and should be labeled by the FBI as a serious national security threat. Antifa, Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, or even the fucking CPUSA pale in comparison to the threat that Evangelism poses to the United States, IF not the human species as a whole. They are a threat to our future, and should be dealt with as soon as possible.
I didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. Do the world a favor and please go kill yourself. :)
Well seeing as he just attempted to provide justification for the nazis slaughtering jews etc i am sure i can just call up his local antifa group and they will handle him accordingly.
my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
Do you kNOW I Am ALso PRESiDEnt of PSSA of CiTRus COMmUNIty COLLEGe!!? I EVen INTERviWEEWD TE MAyoR LMAO!!!!!!!!!I didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. Do the world a favor and please go kill yourself. :)
Well seeing as he just attempted to provide justification for the nazis slaughtering jews etc i am sure i can just call up his local antifa group and they will handle him accordingly.
Your knowledge about politics and political ideology is so base level that it’s infuriating
Neo Nazism isn’t founded on the idea that Jews should be slaughtered first off you retard
It’s centered around nationalism and homogeneity, of which studies have shown does in fact decrease internal conflict.
Also I said that no matter what people’s political ideology is, they should not be abridged in their support or speech for it
No where did I say that what illegal actions these groups have taken was ok or justified
Your level of thinking suggests that in your research you don’t actually watch videos about people discussing topics and issues and just read news headliners made specifically for clicks
Me being a communist is also hilarious as my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
I didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. Do the world a favor and please go kill yourself. :)
Well seeing as he just attempted to provide justification for the nazis slaughtering jews etc i am sure i can just call up his local antifa group and they will handle him accordingly.
Your knowledge about politics and political ideology is so base level that it’s infuriating
Neo Nazism isn’t founded on the idea that Jews should be slaughtered first off you retard
It’s centered around nationalism and homogeneity, of which studies have shown does in fact decrease internal conflict.
Also I said that no matter what people’s political ideology is, they should not be abridged in their support or speech for it
No where did I say that what illegal actions these groups have taken was ok or justified
Your level of thinking suggests that in your research you don’t actually watch videos about people discussing topics and issues and just read news headliners made specifically for clicks
Me being a communist is also hilarious as my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
Damn. Two sad brags in the same thread. You hate to see it.
It’s centered around nationalism and homogeneity, of which studies have shown does in fact decrease internal conflict.Even though im a supporter of multi culturalism as i value progress over stabilty this is true. Nations with a homogenous cultural population have shown alot less internal conflict (think Iceland, Korea, Japan, New Zealand) The only big conflicts stem from political reasons which are true for every democratic nation afaik
Me being a communist is also hilarious as my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parentsEngels was also rich and is basically the founder of communism!!!!!!11!!!!1!1!
I didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. Do the world a favor and please go kill yourself. :)
Well seeing as he just attempted to provide justification for the nazis slaughtering jews etc i am sure i can just call up his local antifa group and they will handle him accordingly.
Your knowledge about politics and political ideology is so base level that it’s infuriating
Neo Nazism isn’t founded on the idea that Jews should be slaughtered first off you retard
It’s centered around nationalism and homogeneity, of which studies have shown does in fact decrease internal conflict.
Also I said that no matter what people’s political ideology is, they should not be abridged in their support or speech for it
No where did I say that what illegal actions these groups have taken was ok or justified
Your level of thinking suggests that in your research you don’t actually watch videos about people discussing topics and issues and just read news headliners made specifically for clicks
Me being a communist is also hilarious as my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
Thank you, you just clarified just how big of an ass hat you really are.
SpoilerI didn't know that Lawbrniger is a communist. wtf? Call the FBI on him, and see how well he does in court. lmaoooAlso technically keeping your population homogenous is good for reducing domestic conflict and more so nazis don’t have NO reason
Defending/Supporting nazis, antifa, kkk, and communists. You are a fine specimen. Do the world a favor and please go kill yourself. :)
Well seeing as he just attempted to provide justification for the nazis slaughtering jews etc i am sure i can just call up his local antifa group and they will handle him accordingly.
Your knowledge about politics and political ideology is so base level that it’s infuriating
Neo Nazism isn’t founded on the idea that Jews should be slaughtered first off you retard
It’s centered around nationalism and homogeneity, of which studies have shown does in fact decrease internal conflict.
Also I said that no matter what people’s political ideology is, they should not be abridged in their support or speech for it
No where did I say that what illegal actions these groups have taken was ok or justified
Your level of thinking suggests that in your research you don’t actually watch videos about people discussing topics and issues and just read news headliners made specifically for clicks
Me being a communist is also hilarious as my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parents
Thank you, you just clarified just how big of an ass hat you really are.[close]
I'm cringing at you both, here's a tip just stop.
cba to respond to Gi's bullshit as long as he doesnt actually bring some counter arguments. Pls at least try to give a solution instead of just insulting people.Alright bud, if you wanna use the fact I told you not to reproduce to excuse having to face the fact you are advocating for a violent and extremely stupid left wing extremist group then go for it. If you could indulge me and explain exactly how antifas attacks against basically anyone, have been assisting in stemming the growing right and far right then I would be happy.It’s centered around nationalism and homogeneity, of which studies have shown does in fact decrease internal conflict.Even though im a supporter of multi culturalism as i value progress over stabilty this is true. Nations with a homogenous cultural population have shown alot less internal conflict (think Iceland, Korea, Japan, New Zealand) The only big conflicts stem from political reasons which are true for every democratic nation afaikMe being a communist is also hilarious as my parents are far richer than almost everyone who plays this game and their parentsEngels was also rich and is basically the founder of communism!!!!!!11!!!!1!1!
Alright bud, if you wanna use the fact I told you not to reproduce to excuse having to face the fact you are advocating for a violent and extremely stupid left wing extremist group then go for it. If you could indulge me and explain exactly how antifas attacks against basically anyone, have been assisting in stemming the growing right and far right then I would be happy.Wow you can actually say more than "hurrdurr ur wrong pls dont reproduce"
The problem is that groups such as antifa, are exactly the kind of groups to militarize and take over a government, there is no "counterweight" to militant extremism, it's fundamentally undemocratic, anti free speech and is often violently against views that are either right or left of their own (dependant on which side). The key to democracy is strong opposition, brutal suppression of opposing views shall be the death of that.Alright bud, if you wanna use the fact I told you not to reproduce to excuse having to face the fact you are advocating for a violent and extremely stupid left wing extremist group then go for it. If you could indulge me and explain exactly how antifas attacks against basically anyone, have been assisting in stemming the growing right and far right then I would be happy.Wow you can actually say more than "hurrdurr ur wrong pls dont reproduce"
I dont really support them out of sympathy, im friends with many Antifa members but im not myself one and will probably never join Antifa
The problem is that i dont see the extreme right being stopped by simply talking with them, additionally the German military probably wont be able/willing to stop any right wing "revolution" as many veterans already have shown to not only participate in fascist organizations but lead them.
The police is also heavily right leaning so when the dice will fall i cant see a force of people who will defend german democracy
You cant really talk with extremists, they will resort to invalidating you and your viewpoints when they cant respond properly if they even intend to at all, i mean we all have seen our share of extremists in the NW community. I tried to argue with enough right wing extremists of any kind (everything from just eurosceptic/islamophobic/homophobic to literal nazis) to come to a conclusion that you cant argue against emotions and Ideologies built upon lies.
The Same is true for Left wing extremists tho, everyone has heard the ol' "real communism hasnt been tried yet".
So really i cant see the options aside from strengthening an opposition force for the worst and working and voting for the best.
The problem is that groups such as antifa, are exactly the kind of groups to militarize and take over a government, there is no "counterweight" to militant extremism, it's fundamentally undemocratic, anti free speech and is often violently against views that are either right or left of their own (dependant on which side). The key to democracy is strong opposition, brutal suppression of opposing views shall be the death of that.Alright bud, if you wanna use the fact I told you not to reproduce to excuse having to face the fact you are advocating for a violent and extremely stupid left wing extremist group then go for it. If you could indulge me and explain exactly how antifas attacks against basically anyone, have been assisting in stemming the growing right and far right then I would be happy.Wow you can actually say more than "hurrdurr ur wrong pls dont reproduce"
I dont really support them out of sympathy, im friends with many Antifa members but im not myself one and will probably never join Antifa
The problem is that i dont see the extreme right being stopped by simply talking with them, additionally the German military probably wont be able/willing to stop any right wing "revolution" as many veterans already have shown to not only participate in fascist organizations but lead them.
The police is also heavily right leaning so when the dice will fall i cant see a force of people who will defend german democracy
You cant really talk with extremists, they will resort to invalidating you and your viewpoints when they cant respond properly if they even intend to at all, i mean we all have seen our share of extremists in the NW community. I tried to argue with enough right wing extremists of any kind (everything from just eurosceptic/islamophobic/homophobic to literal nazis) to come to a conclusion that you cant argue against emotions and Ideologies built upon lies.
The Same is true for Left wing extremists tho, everyone has heard the ol' "real communism hasnt been tried yet".
So really i cant see the options aside from strengthening an opposition force for the worst and working and voting for the best.
Matthew won the debate in the first page
Marceaux got pissy
Matthew proceeds to bait
Everyone falls for it
???The problem is that groups such as antifa, are exactly the kind of groups to militarize and take over a government, there is no "counterweight" to militant extremism, it's fundamentally undemocratic, anti free speech and is often violently against views that are either right or left of their own (dependant on which side). The key to democracy is strong opposition, brutal suppression of opposing views shall be the death of that.Alright bud, if you wanna use the fact I told you not to reproduce to excuse having to face the fact you are advocating for a violent and extremely stupid left wing extremist group then go for it. If you could indulge me and explain exactly how antifas attacks against basically anyone, have been assisting in stemming the growing right and far right then I would be happy.Wow you can actually say more than "hurrdurr ur wrong pls dont reproduce"
I dont really support them out of sympathy, im friends with many Antifa members but im not myself one and will probably never join Antifa
The problem is that i dont see the extreme right being stopped by simply talking with them, additionally the German military probably wont be able/willing to stop any right wing "revolution" as many veterans already have shown to not only participate in fascist organizations but lead them.
The police is also heavily right leaning so when the dice will fall i cant see a force of people who will defend german democracy
You cant really talk with extremists, they will resort to invalidating you and your viewpoints when they cant respond properly if they even intend to at all, i mean we all have seen our share of extremists in the NW community. I tried to argue with enough right wing extremists of any kind (everything from just eurosceptic/islamophobic/homophobic to literal nazis) to come to a conclusion that you cant argue against emotions and Ideologies built upon lies.
The Same is true for Left wing extremists tho, everyone has heard the ol' "real communism hasnt been tried yet".
So really i cant see the options aside from strengthening an opposition force for the worst and working and voting for the best.
read federalist 10 retard
dont huh me, i am a geniUS???The problem is that groups such as antifa, are exactly the kind of groups to militarize and take over a government, there is no "counterweight" to militant extremism, it's fundamentally undemocratic, anti free speech and is often violently against views that are either right or left of their own (dependant on which side). The key to democracy is strong opposition, brutal suppression of opposing views shall be the death of that.Alright bud, if you wanna use the fact I told you not to reproduce to excuse having to face the fact you are advocating for a violent and extremely stupid left wing extremist group then go for it. If you could indulge me and explain exactly how antifas attacks against basically anyone, have been assisting in stemming the growing right and far right then I would be happy.Wow you can actually say more than "hurrdurr ur wrong pls dont reproduce"
I dont really support them out of sympathy, im friends with many Antifa members but im not myself one and will probably never join Antifa
The problem is that i dont see the extreme right being stopped by simply talking with them, additionally the German military probably wont be able/willing to stop any right wing "revolution" as many veterans already have shown to not only participate in fascist organizations but lead them.
The police is also heavily right leaning so when the dice will fall i cant see a force of people who will defend german democracy
You cant really talk with extremists, they will resort to invalidating you and your viewpoints when they cant respond properly if they even intend to at all, i mean we all have seen our share of extremists in the NW community. I tried to argue with enough right wing extremists of any kind (everything from just eurosceptic/islamophobic/homophobic to literal nazis) to come to a conclusion that you cant argue against emotions and Ideologies built upon lies.
The Same is true for Left wing extremists tho, everyone has heard the ol' "real communism hasnt been tried yet".
So really i cant see the options aside from strengthening an opposition force for the worst and working and voting for the best.
read federalist 10 retard
point to me the serious discussion after page 1Matthew won the debate in the first page
Marceaux got pissy
Matthew proceeds to bait
Everyone falls for it
Haha guys it was all just a bait XD
Matthew won the debate in the first page
Marceaux got pissy
Matthew proceeds to bait
Everyone falls for it
Yes i know of the problem of pitting extremist militias against each other (its basically what the Germans did 1919 to throw down a communist uprising just with the sides swapped)
The small advantage we have today compared to 1919 is that the Antifa isnt as centralized as former army corps, so you can choose with which group you work with, for example in the City i live in we have a kinda large and potentially violent Antifa due to their roots in football (Ultras), but their mainline is democratic. There arent many definite antidemocrats on the left side, the communist party, as an antidemocratic example from the left, got 0.1% and its mainstream party "Die Linke" got 9,8% of the Votes while the equivalent the NPD got 0.4% and the AFD, which is basically a mainstream friendly version of the NPD now got 13% of votes. So 14% of German voters are in some degree openly racist and extremist or at least okay with supporting a party which supports racist structures
I dont know of the situation in the UK, but i think you dont have such a problem with the far right as we have in germany so i assume you dont know of the problems within german justice, where the police and military - which are supposed to be the counterweight to militant extremists seeking to overthrow a state - are both full of right wing extremists, which makes sense since the German right wing values Order and Safety above basically everything else.
pls dont die on me now ill happily walk in any bait as long as it keeps me from being bored at workwhy Do you believe the german Police to be right leaning?
point to me the serious discussion after page 1Matthew won the debate in the first page
Marceaux got pissy
Matthew proceeds to bait
Everyone falls for it
Haha guys it was all just a bait XD
Alt-Left extremism is also antidemocratic so they are not defending our democracy at all. Some Antifa groups openly call for an revolution which is in fact illegal in Germany by our constitution. Extremism is always antidemocratic because the whole point of extremism is basically to crack down the oppostion & the current system to install a new form of oppressive government to completly deny any democratic structure rising again. Just think of any government that was either far left or far right, where they democratic? Sure right-wing extremism maybe a bit more dangerous currently in Germany in regards to the recent events, but thinking that the alt-left are the protectors of our democracy because they violently act against the right is complete nonsense. Just imagine what could possibly happen if the alt-left rose to power? Would that be good for democracy, pluralism, freedom, economy etc.?As said, were talking minorities in both areas, left and right, who are at least tolerated by about 1/4th of the total population (abt 10% for the extreme left and 14% for the extreme right). I wont deny that a Antidemocratic Left would be just as bad for Germany, but the propabilities are much higher from the right as they are more, have a solidified powerbase (basically in every east german State the AFD is second strongest or THE strongest Party) while the extreme left has some extremists in almost every left leaning Party, especially in the youth organiziations (green, Left and SPD all play around socialist and communist ideas).
Extremism must be shutdown in every way regadless of the political standpoint they might have. It's actually quite simple: Extremism vs. Extremism = more extremism = less democracy = bad
Germany is just not capable to crack down extremism effeciently at the moment which led to things like NSU, RAF, Lübcke, G20, Chemnitz, Nordkreuz etc. which is a shame considering our history with two periods of extremist ideologies in power. I can totally understand why some parts of the German Police are right-wing atm if you consider how the left-wing parties are basically hating on the police because they are accusing them to "protect" the right or saying that they are openly violent when it comes to left-wing protests (G20).
why Do you believe the german Police to be right leaning?Im not talking "fuck the left" right, im talking "fuck refugees" right. And i can definitely understand why the left has the impression that the police/justice is blind on atleast the right eye in the examples of the NSU process, or the missing actions against extremist buffoons just as Höcke or Maas. I know people (2 Antifa, 4-5 LGBTQ+ activists) who repeatedly told me about unfair treatment without any provocation. I experienced unnecessary aggressive actions from the Police in anti-afd demonstrations etc
And why Do you disregard antifas huge attacks on police in General?
The political left isn't as democratic as the people might think here. Antifa is considered a left-extremist group aswell as the Linksjugend (youth party of "Die Linke" who actually openly stated that they are extremists). Some parts of the Greens youth is also considered to be extremist to some extend and the parties of MLPD and KPD etc. speak for themselves. The "Left party" has communist suborgs which are undemocratic aswell. The Left party openly supports the Antifa and other left-wing extremist groups even with financial support. Saying that the left is nearly completely democratic is just ignorant.To me its, as ive already said on the extreme ends a very loud and active minority calling for revolution (0.1% actually voting communist, 0.4% actually voting neo-Nazi even tough i dont know which numbers the other open neo nazi parties like the third way got, probably around the range of 0.1 or even less) and a larger minority not completely opposing these views or sharing some of the views (9% Linke, 13% AFD) of course we do have Nazis voting for the AFD and communists voting for the Left but i wouldnt say the SPD or Green party would tolerate Left wing uprisings even tough their youth wings toy with more traditional socialist views (dont forget, the SPD used to be a extremely radical socialist party, not the boring "lets get stuff done" status-quo party of today)
Also the fuck you saying about germany not supporting free speech because we banned facists. Everest heard of the tolerance paradox Law?ive never said that, i know of the tolerance paradox law but i still dont know which solution is better overall, im still trying to make up my mind about this one
Silverbolt my second Post was adressed towards Lawbringer, hence the "Law"Didn’t expect to see you here.
Ill respond to the rest when im not on the Phone
im procrastinating and reached my last strawSilverbolt my second Post was adressed towards Lawbringer, hence the "Law"Didn’t expect to see you here.
Ill respond to the rest when im not on the Phone
Go Trump!!this fucking guy lmao
id rather see the nazi germany again to bring order than this communist cancer the western europe and EU is
Antifa are fascists that use violence to silence opposing viewpoints they don't agree with.since when do u post more than 4 sentences
Freedom of Speech should be absolute. The only country that has Freedom of Speech is the US. If a country has any sort of hate-speech laws (Germany, Denmark, Poland (Blasphemy laws) etc....) it doesn't have freedom of speech.
#Trump2020 (Yang and Tulsi Gabbard are the only "reasonable" democrats in the presidential race right now)
point to me the serious discussion after page 1Matthew won the debate in the first page
Marceaux got pissy
Matthew proceeds to bait
Everyone falls for it
Haha guys it was all just a bait XD
Oh okay. So he continued to argue with Marceaux ironically, and decided to include two sad brags during his ironic debating to bait us all into...cringing and thinking he's a pretentious jackass?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnedkVrgFF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywJgqs9Wn4k
So now everyone who reads this thread will get the impression he's a pretentious jackass AND a low tier troll. Thanks for enlightening us, Neil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF3ZREWeXK4&feature=youtu.be
yang gang 2020 btw
I tried to argue with enough right wing extremists of any kind (everything from just eurosceptic/islamophobic/homophobic to literal nazis) to come to a conclusion that you cant argue against emotions and Ideologies built upon lies.
Even though im a supporter of multi culturalism as i value progress over stabilty
I am a jackass this has been known by all the boyz
@Caz when countries ban choice of political alignment and speech supporting various policies that isn’t in the form of a call to action of a crime, free speech isn’t real
If Germany really believed in free speech they would allow Germans to align and argue for the Nazi party as long as they didn’t break laws doing so
“Free Speech” unless you support the form of government that the world despises
yes, from conflict arises mostly progress. Homogenous societies have shown that they lack internal conflicts, eg i think the rise of the AFD in germany is very important because political life had shown almost no fundamental conflicts which has led to every big party being basically the same but in different colors. History has shown that cultures who lack conflicts with inside/outside forces almost always stagnate in every way possible, best examples are isolationist China and Japan, i mean Japanese dudes been fighting with swords and living in a medieval feudal society up until the mid 1800s due to the lack of any need to adapt and change. Today, you need to interact with the outside world and that means letting outsiders into your borders to not completely stagnate which is basically impossible in our modern time. I really know of no society ever who has only gained from isolation, both the Tokugawa Japan and Ming china couldnt keep up their policies and way of life due to more advanced outside forces and their inability to deal with these Threats.I tried to argue with enough right wing extremists of any kind (everything from just eurosceptic/islamophobic/homophobic to literal nazis) to come to a conclusion that you cant argue against emotions and Ideologies built upon lies.Even though im a supporter of multi culturalism as i value progress over stabilty
"Progress over stability" and "eurosceptics = far-right extremists" ? ? ?
You're a fucking zealot. YOU are one of the few extremists in this thread.
I needed to remind everyone that I’m a polisci god
yes, from conflict arises mostly progress. Homogenous societies have shown that they lack internal conflicts, eg i think the rise of the AFD in germany is very important because political life had shown almost no fundamental conflicts which has led to every big party being basically the same but in different colors. History has shown that cultures who lack conflicts with inside/outside forces almost always stagnate in every way possible, best examples are isolationist China and Japan, i mean Japanese dudes been fighting with swords and living in a medieval feudal society up until the mid 1800s due to the lack of any need to adapt and change.
Today, you need to interact with the outside world and that means letting outsiders into your borders to not completely stagnate which is basically impossible in our modern time. I really know of no society ever who has only gained from isolation, both the Tokugawa Japan and Ming china couldnt keep up their policies and way of life due to more advanced outside forces and their inability to deal with these Threats.
Please dont call me "one of the few" extremists when i am the one of the only ones actually arguing instead of just invalidating the arguments and views of others.
I do have some radical views and i acknowledge that but im not an antidemocrat, which you are implying in the context of this threat, and aside from connor im so far the only one who could state his opinion without insulting everyone im talking to
In reality it's the complete inverse of this rationale and you as a GERMAN should know that. Civil instability gives rise to parties like AfD, not stability. There's two world wars you can use as evidence of this :)Dunno why youre bringing up Stresemann as he wasnt killed even though is death probably finally paved the way for the NSDAP to march into the government, what he could have done against the Nazis is basically 100% alt history
The Wall Street Crash of 1929, the Franco-German conflict post-WW1, the death of Stresemann, massive inequality of income... Is this the social stability you speak of which gave rise to NSDAP?
So now you're just reciting the ramblings of your sociology textbook eh?thats funny because i dont own a sociology textbook, i dont own any textbook currently to be precise. The only books ive read regarding any sociology was actually the Mengzi and yeh Kongzi was like about 3 years before the rise and fall of both ming china and Tokugawan Japan
You ARE anti-democratic, as you brand those who oppose the EU of all things as "extremists", and extremists face state action (reeducation, imprisonment, censorship) in western nations. Is that anything but democratic?To be fair, if thats your opinion of anti-democratic then i am antidemocratic. To me you need to seek the fall of an democratic authority or support authoritarian authorities to be antidemocratic. At least in germany extremists do not face either reeducation, imprisonment or state censorship - as you can see daily on any AFD facebookpage. They will face imprisonment and resocialisation when they commit a crime, like the right wing extremist who killed Walther Lübcke, or many extremists from the Black Block - if they get caught that is. You wont get prosecuted alone on political views in germany, the small exception to the rule are Nazi symbols and signs and as cazasar already said this fally under the paradox of tolerance - sometimes you need to be less tolerant towards a thing to achieve more tolerance.
You ARE extremist, as you're willing to let ordinary citizens suffer massively in order to shift society closer to your idea of a perfect "progressive" climate. More specifically - you're an ideologue.
Another little drone of the German "education" system.Thats also funny because according to the german "education" system i am a massive failure, ive quit school without achieving my Abitur, my grades were bad at best and i really hate the current school system
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Marceaux got pissy
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Everyone falls for it
Go Trump!!
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Marceaux got pissy
Matthew proceeds to bait
Everyone falls for it
Law has opened 2 pages of his political science book and is now qualified to debate on laws regarding working conditions for the lower classI needed to remind everyone that I’m a polisci godSpoilerAh rip, in that case.
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ok roguedin
I am a jackass this has been known by all the boyzyou have quite clearly no idea about german laws.
@Caz when countries ban choice of political alignment and speech supporting various policies that isn’t in the form of a call to action of a crime, free speech isn’t real
If Germany really believed in free speech they would allow Germans to align and argue for the Nazi party as long as they didn’t break laws doing so
“Free Speech” unless you support the form of government that the world despises
this thread is actually so faggy lolAnarchist critiques of modern civilization are sweet indeed.
imagine not being anprim in 2k19
we should just nuke the entire earth fuck human beings
this thread is actually so faggy lolAnarchist critiques of modern civilization are sweet indeed.
imagine not being anprim in 2k19
Im hung all the time
tbh