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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2013, 02:45:30 pm »
How about the numerous crusades on the Holy lands?
Those didn't fail, did they?

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2013, 02:50:10 pm »
Alot of them did. not all

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2013, 02:52:52 pm »
Alot of them did. not all
Sad that they did :(

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2013, 02:59:11 pm »
A lot of them were made against the Orthodox Christians as well, and they didn't fail.

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2013, 02:59:36 pm »
It's quite amusing when you realize that the place two Jew-hating people fought over for like two centuries is now...Jewish.

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2013, 03:02:15 pm »
Alot of them did. not all
Sad that they did :(
Why? I think even if they succeeded that it wouldn't have changed much.

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2013, 03:09:35 pm »
This should turn out to be interesting.

I wonder how long it'll be before this one is locked.
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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2013, 03:15:15 pm »
This should turn out to be interesting.

I wonder how long it'll be before this one is locked.

^ This guy knows where it's at.

Purely looking at political effects, successful crusades would have a major impact on the course of history. But putting 'Sadly they lost' or 'luckily they lost' is really an unnecessary comment, because Wismar, everybody knows you'll just go ahead and make this an anti-Islam debate.

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2013, 11:35:12 pm »
Albert Einsteins last words were lost...because the nurse didn't know German, that's a pretty big one if you ask me :| Ah...those precious words...Although it was probably something like, can you get me some water :\

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2013, 09:59:38 am »
Im sorry, but the amount of times Christianaity has declared a war on another religion.

Crusades...

WW2...

And now "War on Terror"

there are many more. But Christianity has been the source of many problems.  And yes, I am a Christian.
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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2013, 10:05:36 am »
Without touching on the rest of your horribly incorrect and fallacious post;

What the Hell does the Second World War have to do with religion?

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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2013, 10:08:38 am »
Without touching on the rest of your horribly incorrect and fallacious post;

What the Hell does the Second World War have to do with religion?


Although NOT a Holy War, Christians, not all, did strike out at another religion. And what has it got to do with religion? Well, That question is a little silly.

And fallacious? I can look at most wars we Primarily Study today (IN Australia.), and connect Christianity to it.
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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2013, 10:10:12 am »
Although NOT a Holy War, Christians, not all, did strike out at another religion. And what has it got to do with religion? Well, That question is a little silly.

By that logic, the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan was Atheism striking out at Islam.

And fallacious? I can look at most wars we Primarily Study today, and connect Christianity to it.

I believe I've stated before that looking at an issue with predisposed eyes can connect any event to a cause, justification, or scapegoat. If one seeks to look honestly at history, then to do so is a mortal sin.
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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2013, 10:15:46 am »
Religion is certainly part of the causality of why things are so fucked up in the world and if you can't do the math on that, then I can't help you.
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Re: Biggest Failures in History!
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2013, 10:17:46 am »
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Although NOT a Holy War, Christians, not all, did strike out at another religion. And what has it got to do with religion? Well, That question is a little silly.

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By that logic, the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan was Atheism striking out at Islam.

A certain Leader blamed a certain religion for some certain misfortunes. And what misfortune did the Islams give the USSR? And some people say that Atheists are Non-religious, some say that that Atheism is one. But I don't think that was a Religious war.



Religion is certainly part of the causality of why things are so fucked up in the world and if you can't do the math on that, then I can't help you.


Oh, I couldn't agree more.
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