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Title: Terror in Paris [Keep it serious!]
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 10:24:18 am
*KEEP THIS CONSTRUCTIVE!*



As many of you should allready know Paris was hit by at least 6 terror attacks wit at least 120 death. That's the worst terror attack we had in Europe so far. What do you think?

I will keep this thread up-to date with the information when I'm on my computer.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecrJaA_mXg


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Europe needs to stand united against IS. We do not need to stand strong against immigrants, we do not need to close our borders down, we do not need to stir up hatred against other humans. But it is our generation's task to keep Europe united and strong against terror and fear. We shall not forget that we all are citizens of Europe, citizens of one world.

Every citizen should be ready to fight for the freedom and security for the nation he lives in and of Europe as a whole - but you won't help to do this by posting stuff on social media or changing your profile pic. Europe has seen many crisis, Europe has seen at least two World Wars, Europe has managed to stay in peace for dozens of years now. But nothing of this has been achieved easily, and it is our task to safe this achievements. Keep united, keep confident in Europe and we will manage this whole crisis together.


As the NATO Secretary General said today:

"I am deeply shocked by the horrific terrorist attacks across Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the families of the victims, with all those affected, and with the people of France. We stand strong and united in the fight against terrorism. Terrorism will never defeat democracy. "


Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 10:39:09 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nick Lazanis on November 14, 2015, 10:45:36 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 14, 2015, 10:53:25 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 10:53:41 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 10:53:56 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.

E g. keep watching BBC for latest information
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 10:55:42 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 11:04:06 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Michel_Ney on November 14, 2015, 11:04:25 am
My condolences to the people of France.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 11:05:14 am
Oh boy that was the worst Friday in ages.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Michel_Ney on November 14, 2015, 11:12:44 am
The Extreme right will mobilize. The revenge attacks will most likely begin allready today.

I don't know if this is linked, but I'll give you the link: https://www.rt.com/news/321967-calais-refugee-camp-fire/

I hope everyone here will condemn the revenge attacks that we will see.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 11:13:48 am
BBC confirmed that these are really old photos michel
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Michel_Ney on November 14, 2015, 11:14:33 am
Ah, okei.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:17:03 am
Here's an idea, lets get rid of all  the illegals, ya? Lets hope that Europe comes together in this one and do something about it.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 14, 2015, 11:17:22 am
We cannot allow the State and Far Right groups to capitalize on this horrible event. Solidarity to the families of the deceased.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 11:17:34 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:19:22 am
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end

It won't be our end if we fucking get rid of them?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 11:20:11 am
Spoiler
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end

It won't be our end if we fucking get rid of them?
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Tell me how do you want to do that
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:22:47 am
Spoiler
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end

It won't be our end if we fucking get rid of them?
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Tell me how do you want to do that
It isn't hard to get rid of a large amount of immigrants. If Europe or even western Europe united they could get rid of a large amount of the immigrants. I'm not saying we forcefully tell them to fuck off, but Europe needs to do something.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 11:23:21 am
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:24:37 am
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?

Don't tell you think "not every muslim is the enemy!!!111" I agree but a medium amount of Muslims agree with these acts, then they play victim after they are "targeted"
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 11:24:49 am
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 11:25:17 am
Spoiler
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end

It won't be our end if we fucking get rid of them?
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Tell me how do you want to do that
It isn't hard to get rid of a large amount of immigrants. If Europe or even western Europe united they could get rid of a large amount of the immigrants. I'm not saying we forcefully tell them to fuck off, but Europe needs to do something.
I thought you were talking about terrorists. I too don't like immigrants much, but they need our help. This is really bad situation. If someone helps them, other will yell at him "DON'T ACCEPT THEM! THEY ARE ALL TERRORISTS". In other way if someone doesn't help them and just ignore them, people will say "You are heartless"
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:26:06 am
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?

Oh i'm sorry, replace immigrants with "a fair amount of extremist Muslims"
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:28:40 am
Spoiler
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end

It won't be our end if we fucking get rid of them?
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Tell me how do you want to do that
It isn't hard to get rid of a large amount of immigrants. If Europe or even western Europe united they could get rid of a large amount of the immigrants. I'm not saying we forcefully tell them to fuck off, but Europe needs to do something.
I thought you were talking about terrorists. I too don't like immigrants much, but they need our help.

Sorry for double posting. I agree I think they could use our help but if they come here to Europe to abuse the system, they can fuck right off.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 11:31:41 am
Spoiler
What do you expect from people to say? It's horrible

I've allready seen dumb people behaving like "Close the german borders and kick out all refugees they are all terrorists" in Germany....

I'm happy to see that you guys are not that dumb.
Was that sarcasm?

No. Some people in Germany seriously are like closing our borders down and mobilisation of the army were the right way of handling this situation. And people behaving like this are idiots in my opinion.

I also got a problem with "Fight terrorism!" reactions now. We need to fight them, ofc - but at this point noone knows who is behind this attacks and who exactly to fight where now. We need to make this points clear first.

What is happening is horrible, but we need to keep a calm mind also.
Mate, we can't do anything with this. Im really sad to say this, but we have to accept it. This is our end

It won't be our end if we fucking get rid of them?
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Tell me how do you want to do that
It isn't hard to get rid of a large amount of immigrants. If Europe or even western Europe united they could get rid of a large amount of the immigrants. I'm not saying we forcefully tell them to fuck off, but Europe needs to do something.
I thought you were talking about terrorists. I too don't like immigrants much, but they need our help.

Sorry for double posting. I agree I think they could use our help but if they come here to Europe to abuse the system, they can fuck right off.
I know. I can now imagine how they come and they start destroying christian churches. But the most annoying are women who wear their fucking niqabs
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 11:31:56 am
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?

Oh i'm sorry, replace immigrants with "a fair amount of extremist Muslims"

And what do you personally want to do against them? Go join the army mate if you want to fight abroad. But do not use the phrase "we need to get rid of them" without being ready to do something. I'm honestly fed up with this people making dozens of "advices" without thinking about them.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 11:32:47 am
So far it looks like Paris was attacked by members of IS due to the fact that France fights them in the middle east. This isnt confirmed so far tho.

I dont know a single muslim that actually likes IS, or any other of these terror groups.

Sorry Liam, but you really just sound like one of those "They are stealing our Jobs !" guys  :-\
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 11:35:23 am
So far it looks like Paris was attacked by members of IS due to the fact that France fights them in the middle east. This isnt confirmed so far tho.

I dont know a single muslim that actually likes IS, or any other of these terror groups.
Every muslim is at first a normal person. But I met ALOT of muslim people who just changed their view in a few days and joined them
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 11:37:24 am
So far it looks like Paris was attacked by members of IS due to the fact that France fights them in the middle east. This isnt confirmed so far tho.

I dont know a single muslim that actually likes IS, or any other of these terror groups.
Every muslim is at first a normal person. But I met ALOT of muslim people who just changed their view and joined them

As I am member of the Red Cross I know at least three dozen muslims of different parties quite well. And they all hate the IS. And btw - talking about "muslim people" in general is totally wrong. You didn't even mention if they were Sunnis or not.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:40:39 am
Spoiler
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?

Oh i'm sorry, replace immigrants with "a fair amount of extremist Muslims"

And what do you personally want to do against them? Go join the army mate if you want to fight abroad. But do not use the phrase "we need to get rid of them" without being ready to do something. I'm honestly fed up with this people making dozens of "advices" without thinking about them.
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I don't want to kill Muslims, I want nations to help the ones who need it. Get rid of the bad ones. I'm not a politician so I can't really do fuck all can I?



So far it looks like Paris was attacked by members of IS due to the fact that France fights them in the middle east. This isnt confirmed so far tho.

I dont know a single muslim that actually likes IS, or any other of these terror groups.

Sorry Liam, but you really just sound like one of those "They are stealing our Jobs !" guys  :-\

I could care less if they steal our jobs seeing as they aren't stealing them, if they work and have a life, good for them.  But when you say I don't know a single Muslim who that actually likes IS, a bit hard to judge seeing as you don't completely know their thoughts. Just because your country is run by some stupid Bitch who doesn't know when it's right to speak up, doesn't mean you have to be one too, you catch?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 11:43:28 am
Pls dont insult me :(

Who decides who the bad muslims are ? You ? The state ? And do you just drop them with a parachute about their homecountry or what ?

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:45:22 am
Pls dont insult me :(

Who decides who the bad muslims are ? You ? The state ? And do you just drop them with a parachute about their homecountry or what ?

It's not who's bad and who's good. It's really hard to explain and I honestly can't be bothered to write an essay about who and who shouldn't be allowed in a Nation or not.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 11:51:31 am
Pls dont insult me :(

Who decides who the bad muslims are ? You ? The state ? And do you just drop them with a parachute about their homecountry or what ?

It's not who's bad and who's good. It's really hard to explain and I honestly can't be bothered to write an essay about who and who shouldn't be allowed in a Nation or not.

Of course you can. You just don't want to because it's easier to behave dumb and keep writing stuff without thinking about it in the first place.

Do not insult other users and politicians here! One more hard insult like this and I may be forced to forbid you to post here anymore.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 11:53:23 am
Pls dont insult me :(

Who decides who the bad muslims are ? You ? The state ? And do you just drop them with a parachute about their homecountry or what ?

It's not who's bad and who's good. It's really hard to explain and I honestly can't be bothered to write an essay about who and who shouldn't be allowed in a Nation or not.

Of course you can. You just don't want to because it's easier to behave dumb and keep writing stuff without thinking about it in the first place.

I'm actually playing FO4 but sure act like a dick regardless, thanks.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 11:56:24 am
Ok Liam do not post here anymore. People that only post here to insult other people and spread hate are not welcome.

Btw playing FO4 will help Europe for sure. *Sarcasm*
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 14, 2015, 11:59:30 am
I think it's scary that terrorists can kill that many people in an HIC's CAPITAL in Europe, especially a country like France which has an army police (they have 2 types of police, a UK sort of police and an army one I think, correct me if i'm wrong plz) and then get away with it, although I do agree that we should keep a calm head about it, I think that Europe needs to do something because if terrosist can do that in Paris, who says they can't do it in London, Madrid, Berlin etc.?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 12:01:44 pm
Ok Liam do not post here anymore. People that only post here to insult other people and spread hate are not welcome.

Btw playing FO4 will help Europe for sure. *Sarcasm*

Snip I don't want to post here anymore Snip.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 12:02:33 pm
IS just confessed to be responsible for the attacks.


I think it's scary that terrorists can kill that many people in an HIC's CAPITAL in Europe, especially a country like France which has an army police (they have 2 types of police, a UK sort of police and an army one I think, correct me if i'm wrong plz)

They have three types of police. The Police national, Police municipale and the Gendarmerie. The Gendarmerie is military and has famous special troops like the Garde republicaine and the GIGN.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 12:03:28 pm
Ok Liam do not post here anymore. People that only post here to insult other people and spread hate are not welcome.

Btw playing FO4 will help Europe for sure. *Sarcasm*

After seeing how much Autism glows from you I don't think I want to post here anymore, thanks for offering me though.

Just keep behaving like this. Now I have the privilege to ask the moderators to mute you.


Edit: *Sorry for doublepost*
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 12:04:36 pm
I think it's scary that terrorists can kill that many people in an HIC's CAPITAL in Europe, especially a country like France which has an army police (they have 2 types of police, a UK sort of police and an army one I think, correct me if i'm wrong plz) and then get away with it, although I do agree that we should keep a calm head about it, I think that Europe needs to do something because if terrosist can do that in Paris, who says they can't do it in London, Madrid, Berlin etc.?
Strong speech, weak deed
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nick Lazanis on November 14, 2015, 12:04:51 pm
IS just confessed to be responsible for the attacks.

They are going to do that anyway,even if they were not responsible.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 12:05:05 pm
You have been asked to leave this thread after insults were thrown. Respect that.

- Killington
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 14, 2015, 12:05:36 pm
IS just confessed to be responsible for the attacks.

They are going to do that anyway,even if they were not responsible.

They claim they do a lot of things, hard to know when they are lying to being truthful.

I think it's scary that terrorists can kill that many people in an HIC's CAPITAL in Europe, especially a country like France which has an army police (they have 2 types of police, a UK sort of police and an army one I think, correct me if i'm wrong plz) and then get away with it, although I do agree that we should keep a calm head about it, I think that Europe needs to do something because if terrosist can do that in Paris, who says they can't do it in London, Madrid, Berlin etc.?
Strong speech, weak deed

Weak deed? What deed?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 12:06:11 pm
Ok Liam do not post here anymore. People that only post here to insult other people and spread hate are not welcome.

Btw playing FO4 will help Europe for sure. *Sarcasm*

After seeing how much Autism glows from you I don't think I want to post here anymore, thanks for offering me though.

Just keep behaving like this. Now I have the privilege to ask the moderators to mute you.


Edit: *Sorry for doublepost*
Ted, then half of the forum users which called me autist should be banned already :P
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 12:07:15 pm
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Ok Liam do not post here anymore. People that only post here to insult other people and spread hate are not welcome.

Btw playing FO4 will help Europe for sure. *Sarcasm*

After seeing how much Autism glows from you I don't think I want to post here anymore, thanks for offering me though.

Just keep behaving like this. Now I have the privilege to ask the moderators to mute you.


Edit: *Sorry for doublepost*
Ted, then half of the forum usesrs which called me autist should be banned :P
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Stop the discussion about Liam. That's not the place to do so. If this insults don't stop I will be forced to lock the thread until a moderator cleaned stuff up; Keep calm and discuss in a respectful way. There is no need for insults and discussions about the insutls here.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 12:11:09 pm
IS just released a video were they ask all german muslims to kill their kiffar neighbours.

I will give the link over PM, but only if you can handle serious shit.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 14, 2015, 12:12:01 pm
RIP all of the people who died.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Michel_Ney on November 14, 2015, 12:14:22 pm
Link won't be sent on this forum, as it's quite vulgar. If anyone of you have me on steam, send me a message, or search for "New Daesh video in German: "Fisabilillah" on LiveLeak.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Saxon on November 14, 2015, 12:15:22 pm
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=27092.msg1198802#new

I have started to blow over in general the events of yesterday, don't forget the others.

The death toll is unfortunately still rising, and 7/8 of the attackers died via suicide vests - the other shot I believe.

Also, blaming the refugees - Who's camp at Calais was being burned down after last night is a tad rash.

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 12:15:58 pm
RIP all of the people who died.
Am I the only one who is tired of all these "RIPs"? I know you mean it seriously, but I still think using RIP is just making fun of all people who died.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Michel_Ney on November 14, 2015, 12:20:46 pm
RIP all of the people who died.
Am I the only one who is tired of all these "RIPs"? I know you mean it seriously, but I still think using RIP is just making fun of all people who died.

I do asweel, so I only use "RIP" as a joke. I allways say 2You have my condelences" or "You will be missed" as "RIP" is now used in joke terms.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 14, 2015, 12:22:21 pm
Link won't be sent on this forum, as it's quite vulgar. If anyone of you have me on steam, send me a message, or search for "New Daesh video in German: "Fisabilillah" on LiveLeak.

I think it's time for another crusade.

RIP all of the people who died.
Am I the only one who is tired of all these "RIPs"? I know you mean it seriously, but I still think using RIP is just making fun of all people who died.

No, if you didn't know already RIP means 'Rest in Peace' and has been used around the world to say that you're sorry for your loss. The internet has made this into a meme, but that doesn't mean it cannot be used.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Killington on November 14, 2015, 12:22:52 pm
This is a tragic event, my thoughts are with the victims.

Please give this topic the respect it deserves and behave.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 12:24:27 pm
RIP all of the people who died.
Am I the only one who is tired of all these "RIPs"? I know you mean it seriously, but I still think using RIP is just making fun of all people who died.

No, if you didn't know already RIP means 'Rest in Peace' and has been used around the world to say that you're sorry for your loss. The internet has made this into a meme, but that doesn't mean it cannot be used.
I know what it means. Im pointing to that people use it only as a joke, that's why I think it's not meant seriously
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 14, 2015, 12:28:24 pm
It is meant seriously.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 12:29:29 pm
Snip.

Follow the rules, Liam.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Tournesol on November 14, 2015, 12:36:10 pm
guys pls  >:(
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jack Spears on November 14, 2015, 12:47:35 pm
Such a tragic event. However am I 100% surprised by the bombardment of new terror attacks? No. My reason is with all the new refugees flooding into Europe ISIS are not stupid. They have most likely sent out loads to infiltrate other countries such as France etc. It isn't hard for them to do that since most refugees have no form of identification. A lot of the refugees do need help because they are trying to escape war and terror. This is just more fuel for those who despise the refugee crisis and the EU, history tends to repeat itself.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Saxon on November 14, 2015, 12:49:09 pm
Such a tragic event. However am I 100% surprised by the bombardment of new terror attacks? No. My reason is with all the new refugees flooding into Europe ISIS are not stupid. They have most likely sent out loads to infiltrate other countries such as France etc. It isn't hard for them to do that since most refugees have no form of identification. A lot of the refugees do need help because they are trying to escape war and terror. This is just more fuel for those who despise the refugee crisis and the EU, history tends to repeat itself.
You okay mate?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 14, 2015, 12:51:16 pm
And why exactly are immigrants the reason for these attacks ?

Don't tell you think "not every muslim is the enemy!!!111" I agree but a medium amount of Muslims agree with these acts, then they play victim after they are "targeted"

Falsity. I can't believe people still repeat that garbage.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jack Spears on November 14, 2015, 12:53:24 pm
Such a tragic event. However am I 100% surprised by the bombardment of new terror attacks? No. My reason is with all the new refugees flooding into Europe ISIS are not stupid. They have most likely sent out loads to infiltrate other countries such as France etc. It isn't hard for them to do that since most refugees have no form of identification. A lot of the refugees do need help because they are trying to escape war and terror. This is just more fuel for those who despise the refugee crisis and the EU, history tends to repeat itself.
You okay mate?

Of course I am?

I was just stating my opinion on the situation. Right or wrong it's allowed.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Saxon on November 14, 2015, 12:55:56 pm
Tell Liam that.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jack Spears on November 14, 2015, 12:56:53 pm
Tell Liam that.

Non, i'm telling you that.  ;D
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 14, 2015, 01:15:36 pm
What a lot of people (particularly those who support right wing views) seem to forget is that the refugees are fleeing the people who are committing these attacks (essentially).
Obviously it's entirely possible that there are extremists who are "infiltrating" Western countries by hiding among the legitimate refugees, but it's pretty hard to separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were, given that the whole point is that they're refugees and likely don't have documents with them.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Danik on November 14, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
Who was it done by? Who were the target? Why did they do this? Links to news articles? So much for a good OP.

A whole lot of people who seek refuge are criminal opportunists, even refugees and people from their origin countries say that. Basically Europe is getting the worst from Arab countries, Africa and Afghanistan with somewhere under 50% legit refugees/immigrants. You don't know who did this terror attack? Really? Someone whose countrymen are glad that they left them for Europe.

Speaking of reactions to this event, the first thing I read in youtube comments was people who show support the Russian bombing of ISIS.

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jack Spears on November 14, 2015, 01:57:09 pm
What a lot of people (particularly those who support right wing views) seem to forget is that the refugees are fleeing the people who are committing these attacks (essentially).
Obviously it's entirely possible that there are extremists who are "infiltrating" Western countries by hiding among the legitimate refugees, but it's pretty hard to separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were, given that the whole point is that they're refugees and likely don't have documents with them.

I'm going to assume that was directed at my comment. I am not " right wing " but my point still stands and yea it is very hard to know who is who and if that migrant is apart of " ISIS " as I said before, history will repeat itself.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 14, 2015, 02:09:47 pm
If I actually cared, I'd count how many times "right-wing" has been said in this thread.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: joer5835 on November 14, 2015, 02:25:17 pm
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/nrNqOJf.jpg)
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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Fwuffy on November 14, 2015, 02:34:42 pm
Welp, I fear this won't be the last one by far.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Peppers on November 14, 2015, 03:26:49 pm
Europe needs to wake up.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 03:39:11 pm
Europe needs to wake up.

Wake up from what?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Peppers on November 14, 2015, 03:54:15 pm
wake up from the dream they have of peaceful immigration. It's not happening check crime statistics and also check the age group and sex of the "migrants".
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Furrnox on November 14, 2015, 04:10:14 pm
Who was it done by? Who were the target? Why did they do this? Links to news articles? So much for a good OP.

A whole lot of people who seek refuge are criminal opportunists, even refugees and people from their origin countries say that. Basically Europe is getting the worst from Arab countries, Africa and Afghanistan with somewhere under 50% legit refugees/immigrants. You don't know who did this terror attack? Really? Someone whose countrymen are glad that they left them for Europe.

Speaking of reactions to this event, the first thing I read in youtube comments was people who show support the Russian bombing of ISIS.

Do you have facts to back up these theories of yours?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 04:13:20 pm
wake up from the dream they have of peaceful immigration. It's not happening check crime statistics and also check the age group and sex of the "migrants".

Well the crime statistic is showing that the immigrants are not more criminal then the germans. Have you ever worked at the border and helped those people? I have. And as far as I can tell there are of course many young male refugees, but also many families.
And as far as I know did the immigrants not hurt anyone.

We got some problems with the amount of the people of course, but the one thing I really hate is writing or shouting something without presenting or even without knowing the necessary facts.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dodo on November 14, 2015, 04:19:12 pm
There are many things to blame.
The thing is massive immigration is bad, even though some of them are actually fleeing war and everything, we cannot take all the misery of the world.
In addition, it causes much tensions & instabilities due to cultural differences.

Immigrations (not immigrants in themselves) has responsabilities in these attacks, but definitely not all of them.
How come normal people are smuggle explosives & automatic weaponry in a civilized country ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 04:24:30 pm
Tonight will go on my local TV station romantic movie called Midnight in Paris  :P topkek
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 14, 2015, 04:46:55 pm
Probably an unpopular view but what the Hell.

You realize that these attacks are a daily occurrence in the Middle East and that they are perpetuated by or with the consent of Western governments. When some religious extremists kill in the city streets, THAT is an unjustifiable slaughter. But when a nation bombs and kills civilians in Palestine or Kurdistan, THAT deserves "context" and that deserves a defense of preservation and national security.
Fuck France, Fuck ISIS. Don't show your solidarity with these legalized butchers, show your support with your fellow man.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 04:49:29 pm
Probably an unpopular view but what the Hell.

You realize that these attacks are a daily occurrence in the Middle East and that they are perpetuated by or with the consent of Western governments. When some religious extremists kill in the city streets, THAT is an unjustifiable slaughter. But when a nation bombs and kills civilians in Palestine or Kurdistan, THAT deserves "context" and that deserves a defense of preservation and national security.
Fuck France, Fuck ISIS. Don't show your solidarity with these legalized butchers, show your support with your fellow man.
Yeah, rather trust USA
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: joer5835 on November 14, 2015, 05:05:26 pm
If the muslim community really want the western world to improve its opinion of them and immigrants fleeing from the middle-east, now is your chance. Go out, protest and officially condemn the actions of ISIS and all these other groups. As long as true, peacefull muslims stay silent, many Westerners will continue to see that as an approval of what these terrorists are doing.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: KL4R1N0G4MPR0S on November 14, 2015, 05:15:41 pm
Greek News says that the Greek Foreign Minister confirmed that one of the 8 men implicated in the attack had passed through the island of Leros as a refugee a few months back. I'll see whether any other media sources confirm this to be true.

If so, inb4 new shitstorm about refugees
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Peppers on November 14, 2015, 05:21:27 pm
If muslims really did care about these organizations giving them a bad name they would be doing something other then "protesting" and just saying that it's a bad thing and they dont condemn such things.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 14, 2015, 05:22:24 pm
If muslims really did care about these organizations giving them a bad name they would be doing something other then "protesting" and just saying that it's a bad thing and they dont condemn such things.
with other things do you mean stuff like fighting them in the middle east ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dom_ on November 14, 2015, 05:25:09 pm
If the muslim community really want the western world to improve its opinion of them and immigrants fleeing from the middle-east, now is your chance. Go out, protest and officially condemn the actions of ISIS and all these other groups. As long as true, peacefull muslims stay silent, many Westerners will continue to see that as an approval of what these terrorists are doing.
They do. The problem is that it's the vocal minority (extremists) being broadcasted throughout the media rather than what real Muslims think.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: StevenChilton on November 14, 2015, 05:52:12 pm
What a lot of people (particularly those who support right wing views) seem to forget is that the refugees are fleeing the people who are committing these attacks (essentially).
Obviously it's entirely possible that there are extremists who are "infiltrating" Western countries by hiding among the legitimate refugees, but it's pretty hard to separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were, given that the whole point is that they're refugees and likely don't have documents with them.

A large proportion of them are coming from sub-Saharan Africa, so you can't really say that all the refugees coming into the EU are fleeing from ISIS. Also the vast majority of them do have documents of one kind or another. Granted though, a lot of the non-Syrians throw theirs away so they can then claim to be from Syria.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nick Lazanis on November 14, 2015, 05:54:11 pm
Probably an unpopular view but what the Hell.

You realize that these attacks are a daily occurrence in the Middle East and that they are perpetuated by or with the consent of Western governments. When some religious extremists kill in the city streets, THAT is an unjustifiable slaughter. But when a nation bombs and kills civilians in Palestine or Kurdistan, THAT deserves "context" and that deserves a defense of preservation and national security.
Fuck France, Fuck ISIS. Don't show your solidarity with these legalized butchers, show your support with your fellow man.

Quite unpopular,but not necessarily untrue.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 14, 2015, 06:01:08 pm
Well said Howe.

Islamists carry out attacks like this specifically to provoke a backlash against refugees and create an enviroment of fear and ignorance.
Western States are too happy to oblige them for economic reasons and consolidation of power.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: joer5835 on November 14, 2015, 06:10:12 pm
I'll be honest, I'm starting to find all of the people putting an overlay of the tricolour over thier facebook avatars a bit annoying.It annoys me because you'll never see them change their avatar to an Israeli flag when a rocket from Gaza kills people. You'll also never see them put up a flag of Syria or any other country when ISIS or other terror groups kills hundreds of innocent civilians.

Aye, thats the exact reason why I haven't done it on my fb profile.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 06:14:45 pm
I'll be honest, I'm starting to find all of the people putting an overlay of the tricolour over thier facebook avatars a bit annoying.It annoys me because you'll never see them change their avatar to an Israeli flag when a rocket from Gaza kills people. You'll also never see them put up a flag of Syria or any other country when ISIS or other terror groups kills hundreds of innocent civilians.
I don't think that Israel deserves a flag. I would rather have taken Russia as an example. They lost 200 in their airplane and nobody cried. Charlie Hebdo even made fun of this! Lebanon lost 40 two days ago, but who cares?

When a terrorist hits a Middle East country, nobody cares. But when they hit Paris, the whole world starts crying, and that's precisely the point of attacking Paris for a terrorist. That's exactly what they expect.

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Gokiller on November 14, 2015, 06:15:39 pm
France has actually taken a great initiative with taking the lead in at least closing the borders. I really do hope our own government in the Netherlands would be so smart to do the same.

The French flag overlay is a great initiative to show our support to the French population.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 06:18:00 pm
You can be sure that all of the terrorists were French and none came through the border.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dom_ on November 14, 2015, 06:20:28 pm
You can be sure that all of the terrorists were French and none came through the border.
This.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 06:28:01 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.
If you were one of these 150 people, you would have completly different view on this
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 14, 2015, 06:38:11 pm
Howe, you're partly right. Western intervention in Middle Eastern countries is largely to blame for creating ISIS and radical Islam as a whole.
However, that doesn't mean that when French civilians die it's in any way justified. If they were targeting military bases, you could see where they're coming from, and as much as it would be sad (because people are still dying after all), you could sort of see it as come comeuppance for co-occupying the region. However, when a group of people take weapons and use them against innocent civilians, there's nothing at all that you can do to justify it. Yes, I'm well aware that Western nations have killed civilians during their occupation of the Middle East, but at least they didn't set out with the sole purpose of killing civilians.

Also, it's nice to see that you think France deserves it, given that you're safe over there in the US, several times the distance from the Middle East, not having to deal with a migrant crisis which is of US making (given that they took the lead in destabalizing the region), which is coincidentally also letting through extremists (to what degree we may never know).
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 14, 2015, 06:38:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/xqaYDrL.jpg)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 06:52:15 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.
If you were one of these 150 people, you would have completly different view on this
I find this rather shameful. Using the dead to justify your own personal opinions?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 06:53:19 pm
Snip.I know i'm not allowed to post here.Snip.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 06:56:28 pm
do you guys mean me ?  :P
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:00:06 pm
do you guys mean me ?  :P

No, Conway he's basically saying "who cares if 150 people died" Lets say that about 9/11 too, right? In all serious though he can't just say letting 25000 people wait after a pretty large scale terror attack happened is a good thing. Not saying letting them in is bad, just let them wait y'know?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Shine on November 14, 2015, 07:05:10 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.

I find it disgusting that you believe that. The host country shouldn't have its citizens lives at danger for taking in refugees.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 07:12:31 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.

I find it disgusting that you believe that. The host country shouldn't have its citizens lives at danger for taking in refugees.
It's honorable to risk your life for other people. You are just trying to justify cowardice, and THIS is disgusting.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Shine on November 14, 2015, 07:13:54 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.

I find it disgusting that you believe that. The host country shouldn't have its citizens lives at danger for taking in refugees.
It's honorable to risk your life for other people. You are just trying to justify cowardice, and THIS is disgusting.

Trying to justify the death of 150 people's lives because of acts of terrorism isn't disgusting?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Gokiller on November 14, 2015, 07:18:48 pm
You can be sure that all of the terrorists were French and none came through the border.
At least one of them was a refugee that was registered in Greece. So yeah, at least one came through the border.

I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.
Conway, your view on this matter is simply disgusting. 150 innocent lives are an acceptable loss? What's the **** is wrong with you.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:19:03 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.

I find it disgusting that you believe that. The host country shouldn't have its citizens lives at danger for taking in refugees.
It's honorable to risk your life for other people. You are just trying to justify cowardice, and THIS is disgusting.

Trying to justify the death of 150 people's lives because of acts of terrorism isn't disgusting?

Everyone's just being an  armchair politicians at this point, including me.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dom_ on November 14, 2015, 07:20:25 pm
I'm an arab and muslim. Living in Canada, Qc. Respect to France but all I see on my facebook is people making status as : #prayforparis or with their France flag pictures. Honestly it is pathetic considering that two days ago there was at least 40 deaths in an attack in Beiruth, Lebanon. Nobody talks about what's happening in the middle east. I think that the terrorists were already in France before the mass migration of Syrian people and that the governments are gonna have terrorists attacks as an excuse to close their borders. But honestly I think France and Germany should close their borders because there's just too many migrants there and soon it's gonna be total chaos over there if they don't do anything about it. I cant recall who said look at the sex & age of the migrants. Yep , very true. They are young strong men , I saw a video on the net where Donald Trump said something about that anyways, I cant remember
You're basing your facts of something Donald Trump said lmao.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 14, 2015, 07:21:47 pm
It's perfectly acceptable to put other nation's people before our own citizens.

Fixed that for you.

That's beyond disgraceful.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 14, 2015, 07:22:35 pm
I think it's acceptable to take 250 lives in order to save 25,000. What the fuck is wrong with you? You'd rather see 25,000 people die than 250 people die???
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:23:41 pm
I think it's acceptable to take 250 lives in order to save 25,000. What the fuck is wrong with you? You'd rather see 25,000 people die than 250 people die???

The fact is they aren't dying, they're immigrants and refugees waiting to get into a Nation, let them wait. Also i'd put my nations people first before any other nation, it's not being a cunt it's called being part of that nation.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 14, 2015, 07:25:29 pm
I think it's acceptable to take 250 lives in order to save 25,000. What the fuck is wrong with you? You'd rather see 25,000 people die than 250 people die???

I'd rather my nation live up to its duty to protect its own first and foremost. Helping others is great. You people are saying it's great that 'a few hundred' of a sovereign country's citizenry have died for the sake of people who don't even have the will to fight for their homes and firesides.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Gokiller on November 14, 2015, 07:26:37 pm
I think it's acceptable to take 250 lives in order to save 25,000. What the fuck is wrong with you? You'd rather see 25,000 people die than 250 people die???

The fact is they aren't dying, they're immigrants and refugees waiting to get into a Nation, let them wait.
Precisely, the disgusting fact that the majority of those 25,000 refugees are males who should be fighting for and in their own country against terror instead of seeking the best possible benefits elsewhere.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:28:50 pm
I think it's acceptable to take 250 lives in order to save 25,000. What the fuck is wrong with you? You'd rather see 25,000 people die than 250 people die???

The fact is they aren't dying, they're immigrants and refugees waiting to get into a Nation, let them wait.
Precisely, the disgusting fact that the majority of those 25,000 refugees are males who should be fighting for and in their own country against terror instead of seeking the best possible benefits elsewhere.

I don't expect them to fight as I personally wouldn't. Maybe with a group of people but fighting alone or just staying in that country alone to fight seems stupid if i'm being completely honest. But I see what you're on about and I agree that if they can wait, they should be able to fight.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 07:30:48 pm
I'm glad Canada is not letting this stop our plan to bring in 25,000 refugees by the years end. Honestly losing a 150 people seems to me like an acceptable price to possible saving up to 25,000. I hope France can see this the same way and not let this attack influence the way it acts as it was likely meant to.

I find it disgusting that you believe that. The host country shouldn't have its citizens lives at danger for taking in refugees.
It's honorable to risk your life for other people. You are just trying to justify cowardice, and THIS is disgusting.

Trying to justify the death of 150 people's lives because of acts of terrorism isn't disgusting?
Saying that those people died because they defended some honourable ideas is hardly what I would call "justifying". So, what you said remains shameful.

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Precisely, the disgusting fact that the majority of those 25,000 refugees are males who should be fighting for and in their own country against terror instead of seeking the best possible benefits elsewhere.
I don't think that war is that simple. Some of them might very well be accused of cowardice, but all of them?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 07:33:20 pm
Exactly! And it's well known that Mr Assad also EATS children.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 14, 2015, 07:34:37 pm
Oops, sry misread.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:35:10 pm
Guys its not just 25,00...that's what Canada is accepting this year. There are about 4 million Syrians alone whos lives hang in the balance. The Assad government tortures children and uses chemical warfare on its own people. That is why people wish to enter Europe, since 2011 over 250,000 Syrians have been killed. If you truly think that 150 should be cause to jeopardize the lives of more than 4 million people then I honestly don't see how you can call me disgusting.

Lets look at the last time we supported rebels and let the rouge governments die. I'm not saying that Assad is good but do we really want another Terrorist group rising up? I don't think I need to answer that for you.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:38:56 pm
Russia is helping Assad unless Russia and USA want more tensions it's either help Assad or do bugger all that seems like the only viable choices for the US/Western-Europe but honestly what do I know?  ::)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 14, 2015, 07:39:45 pm
I don't expect them to fight as I personally wouldn't.

Jesus...

There are about 4 million Syrians alone whos lives hang in the balance.

Four million people can't oust Assad and ISIS?

The Assad government tortures children and uses chemical warfare on its own people.

I wouldn't doubt the first thing, Assad is not a good man. The chemical warfare allegation is debatable- no actual unbiased investigation has gone on. While Assad's an ass, I doubt he's so dumb as to use chemical weapons to invoke the wrath of the international community.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 07:41:53 pm
I don't expect them to fight as I personally wouldn't.

Jesus...

Did you read the rest of the post or just cut that part out?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Gokiller on November 14, 2015, 07:44:40 pm
I don't think that war is that simple. Some of them might very well be accused of cowardice, but all of them?
The point is, instead of sending the children and womens and of course the elder to Europe for safekeeping. A lot of mature men flee for Europe as well. Which is in fact disgusting. Does the Western world seriously need to deal with every conflict in the Middle-East? It's time that they stand up for their own country. The Kurdisch are doing a great job there in the Middle-East, as well various groups in Syria but that's by far not enough.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 14, 2015, 07:50:07 pm
Four million people can't oust Assad and ISIS?

There where eighty million people in Germany when Hitler was in power, you saying eighty million people didn't oust a dictator whom many knew was committing inhuman acts? People live in a world of fear and terror in Syria, its no wonder they don't rise up. (Ps: theres been a four year long+ civil war in Syria but its just resulted in more death and Assad is still in power)



Hitler was very popular, regardless of the crimes he was committing. If there's anything history shows, a man can get away with a lot when you give a populace that has for the past decade been economically crippled victory upon victory. The German people had no will to oust Hitler until the losses started rolling in- which is when a lot of assassination attempts starting rolling in.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 07:53:49 pm
Assad is also very popular in some parts of Syria, otherwise his "regime" would have crumbled 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Krotan on November 14, 2015, 08:06:23 pm
I think the most disgusting part about this is social media personalities and friends expressing their outrage of last nights events yet I remember when the US bombed a hospital full of syrian people not too long ago, their was very little outrage.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 14, 2015, 08:14:54 pm
You're equating a strike carried out by bad intel from our 'allies' to an intentional attack against civilians. You are right, though. All this social media shit's getting annoying, they act righteous because they copied some words from someone and posted it.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 14, 2015, 08:28:03 pm
Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecrJaA_mXg


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Europe needs to stand united against IS. We do not need to stand strong against immigrants, we do not need to close our borders down, we do not need to stir up hatred against other humans. But it is our generation's task to keep Europe united and strong against terror and fear. We shall not forget that we all are citizens of Europe, citizens of one world.

Every citizen should be ready to fight for the freedom and security for the nation he lives in and of Europe as a whole - but you won't help to do this by posting stuff on social media or changing your profile pic. Europe has seen many crisis, Europe has seen at least two World Wars, Europe has managed to stay in peace for dozens of years now. But nothing of this has been achieved easily, and it is our task to safe this achievements. Keep united, keep confident in Europe and we will manage this whole crisis together.


As the NATO Secretary General said today:

"I am deeply shocked by the horrific terrorist attacks across Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the families of the victims, with all those affected, and with the people of France. We stand strong and united in the fight against terrorism. Terrorism will never defeat democracy. "

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 14, 2015, 08:29:28 pm
+1.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 08:30:59 pm
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecrJaA_mXg
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Europe needs to stand united against IS. We do not need to stand strong against immigrants, we do not need to close our borders down, we do not need to stir up hatred against other humans. But it is our generation's task to keep Europe united and strong against terror and fear. We shall not forget that we all are citizens of Europe, citizens of one world.

Every citizen should be ready to fight for the freedom and security for the nation he lives in and of Europe as a whole - but you won't help to do this by posting stuff on social media or changing your profile pic. Europe has seen many crisis, Europe has seen at least two World Wars, Europe has managed to stay in peace for dozens of years now. But nothing of this has been achieved easily, and it is our task to safe this achievements. Keep united, keep confident in Europe and we will manage this whole crisis together.


As the NATO Secretary General said today:

"I am deeply shocked by the horrific terrorist attacks across Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the families of the victims, with all those affected, and with the people of France. We stand strong and united in the fight against terrorism. Terrorism will never defeat democracy. "
nice insipiration  :P
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 14, 2015, 08:35:03 pm
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ecrJaA_mXg
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Europe needs to stand united against IS. We do not need to stand strong against immigrants, we do not need to close our borders down, we do not need to stir up hatred against other humans. But it is our generation's task to keep Europe united and strong against terror and fear. We shall not forget that we all are citizens of Europe, citizens of one world.

Every citizen should be ready to fight for the freedom and security for the nation he lives in and of Europe as a whole - but you won't help to do this by posting stuff on social media or changing your profile pic. Europe has seen many crisis, Europe has seen at least two World Wars, Europe has managed to stay in peace for dozens of years now. But nothing of this has been achieved easily, and it is our task to safe this achievements. Keep united, keep confident in Europe and we will manage this whole crisis together.


As the NATO Secretary General said today:

"I am deeply shocked by the horrific terrorist attacks across Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the families of the victims, with all those affected, and with the people of France. We stand strong and united in the fight against terrorism. Terrorism will never defeat democracy. "

I agree with you. Not to ruin the peace of this thread but that's what I said at the start of you're post  :-X.

None the less let Europe stand strong, Vive la France.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Conway on November 14, 2015, 08:42:22 pm
+1 Teddy
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 14, 2015, 08:55:44 pm
Uniting against the Islamic State is a good thing. However, let's not forget that in 2001, the US government used the terrorist attacks to legitimate their war against Iraq, which in return caused even more terrorism.

Blaming IS can't be the only answer. People must also think about the choices of their governments: Bombing Libya, killing Gaddafi, funding the rebels in Syria. I don't think that NATO SG is capable of this. I believe that he is part of the problem, and will hardly be part of the solution.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 14, 2015, 08:57:12 pm
you can't trust anyone...
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 14, 2015, 08:58:42 pm
Uniting against the Islamic State is a good thing. However, let's not forget that in 2001, the US government used the terrorist attacks to legitimate their war against Iraq, which in return caused even more terrorism.

Blaming IS can't be the only answer. People must also think about the choices of their governments: Bombing Libya, killing Gaddafi, funding the rebels in Syria. I don't think that NATO SG is capable of this. I believe that he is part of the problem, and will hardly be part of the solution.
I am losing faith in humanity
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 14, 2015, 09:09:49 pm
Uniting against the Islamic State is a good thing. However, let's not forget that in 2001, the US government used the terrorist attacks to legitimate their war against Iraq, which in return caused even more terrorism.

Afghanistan. Not Iraq. I know it's hard telling wars apart when you just use them to be edgy, but at least try to look informed.

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MarshalKim on November 14, 2015, 09:31:31 pm
Uniting against the Islamic State is a good thing. However, let's not forget that in 2001, the US government used the terrorist attacks to legitimate their war against Iraq, which in return caused even more terrorism.

Afghanistan. Not Iraq. I know it's hard telling wars apart when you just use them to be edgy, but at least try to look informed.

Polls of the time showed that most U.S civilians thought Iraq was involved in 911.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Allasaphore on November 14, 2015, 11:24:11 pm
Uniting against the Islamic State is a good thing. However, let's not forget that in 2001, the US government used the terrorist attacks to legitimate their war against Iraq, which in return caused even more terrorism.

Afghanistan. Not Iraq. I know it's hard telling wars apart when you just use them to be edgy, but at least try to look informed.

Polls of the time showed that most U.S civilians thought Iraq was involved in 911.

The US didn't invade Iraq until March of 2003, sir. We invaded Afghanistan in October of 2001.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 12:00:48 am
And I was big enough to watch your deeds on TV. But still, the invasion of Iraq was directly connected to 9/11 by the American government itself.

See for example:

http://www.ibtimes.com/us-attacked-iraq-based-false-report-saddam-husseins-ties-al-qaeda-sen-carl-levin-1750592

Invasion of Iraq is part of Bush's so-called "war on terror".
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 12:07:00 am
Looking forward to seeing free market libertarians and moderate liberals alike turn into authoritarian hardliners over the next few weeks. The tide of jingoism is unstoppable. Let's kick off the second half of this decade with some good old fashioned fascism!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 15, 2015, 01:25:28 am
Were entering that cycle of history again. Will happen again and again until humanity finds out its end goal when it comes to government.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 15, 2015, 01:26:16 am
Do we even have free market libertarians in Europe?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 01:31:09 am
I'm a free market libertarian.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 15, 2015, 01:32:06 am
Do we even have sensible free market libertarians in Europe?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 01:37:34 am
 :'(
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 15, 2015, 01:46:16 am
I do love how you and Augy become active again. I've missed you guys so much.  :'(

Jokes aside, there's some truth in what Nipplestockings is saying. Just recently we saw the election of a conservative nationalist party in Poland, which has already stated that it will not allow any refugees in.

Now, elections in France, the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are still at least a year away, but it's going to be interesting. I can't speak for the other nations, but here election polls show a massive plurality for the populist 'Party for Freedom', up to 38 out of 150 seats, with the 2nd biggest party having only 14 and the rest of the seats spread across like 8 parties. We're fucked  :( .
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 01:56:14 am
Quote
Now, elections in France, the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are still at least a year away, but it's going to be interesting. I can't speak for the other nations, but here election polls show a massive plurality for the populist 'Party for Freedom', up to 38 out of 150 seats, with the 2nd biggest party having only 14 and the rest of the seats spread across like 8 parties. We're fucked  :( .
Actually we have elections in France in December (Elections régionales). The government has reduced the number of regions to 13 (previously 22), which means that Region presidents have even more power. The government was affraid, before what happened, that the National Front would take control of the Nord Pas-de-Calais Picardie. Now they must be even more affraid! We will have our first 21st century gauleiter.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 15, 2015, 01:58:00 am
Aren't the regions pretty weak in terms of legislative and executive powers?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 02:25:45 am
Yes, the power of the regions is mostly economic. That's still an important power. But we must also keep in mind that a party will earn some money for each elected official. Until recently, the National Front has had a low amount of elected officials. Even the Communist Party / Left Front has still more than the National Front. But now, they fear that the National Front will break the containment.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 02:34:59 am
(https://i.imgur.com/cdcbIah.jpg)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 02:44:04 am
We have a bit more informations about the terrorists. One of those in the concert hall was a Frenchman, who lived his whole life in France until 2012. According to audio tapes, they spoke French. The police has also found a Syrian password on the remains of one of the terrorists who blew themselves in Saint-Denis. It's possible that he came through the border alongside refugees.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 03:05:50 am
65% are men (UNHCR).

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php
Title: Terror in Paris
Post by: Min on November 15, 2015, 03:45:09 am
The goal of terrorism is to terrorize, best thing to do is not get scared and show IS that even if they conduct large planned attacks like the ones we've seen in Paris we won't be scared of them.

I don't agree with France sending ground troops to fight IS though. Look at the U.S., we've tried to destroy Taliban for 10 years and we never succeeded. Superior military might alone isn't enough. The Middle East is just too complex politically and socially.

Honestly lol, just get someone like Saladin in the Crusades to unite the entire Islamic faith
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 04:45:23 am
Saladin was Kurdish. ISIS wouldn't like that.  :-\
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Min on November 15, 2015, 05:42:29 am
Saladin was Kurdish. ISIS wouldn't like that.  :-\

Ahh well. You see where I'm going with that though.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dodo on November 15, 2015, 09:04:16 am
The goal of terrorism is to terrorize, best thing to do is not get scared and show IS that even if they conduct large planned attacks like the ones we've seen in Paris we won't be scared of them.

I don't agree with France sending ground troops to fight IS though. Look at the U.S., we've tried to destroy Taliban for 10 years and we never succeeded. Superior military might alone isn't enough. The Middle East is just too complex politically and socially.

Honestly lol, just get someone like Saladin in the Crusades to unite the entire Islamic faith

I see a lot of people saying that attacking IS is not why they agree on.
However, nowhere I've seen them proposing other ways to solve this conflict.
We can simply not let ourself being bombed nor that kind of primitive people gain more territory.

Not long ago, I've read in 'The Times' a Syrian woman fled her organised marriage to marry her loved one.
She got caught by villagers from IS controlled territory, they putted her alive in the ground leaving only her face out, and they lapidated her to death.

We simply cannot talk with these people, if they cannot convert you, they convert you by the sword.
When diplomacy does not work, millitary actions are the last thing you can do, as bad as it sounds.

If you think there is another way, go ahead.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Furrnox on November 15, 2015, 09:11:53 am
Yes, but we also have to be more careful with our bombing / drone runs I don't know how many times I've heard that the US "accidentally" bombed an elementary school or a moskè.

In fact the atrocities we westerners have commited upon these people are much worse then what they have done to us but western media tends to ignore that.
Because we cause "collateral damage" and then it's okay.

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dodo on November 15, 2015, 09:19:03 am
Yup', that's right, I've also heard a few echos of this, or even something which had made much noise, the US AC-130 who attacked some medical facility.
However, how come do they fail to make a difference between IS millitants & children or a millitary training base and a school ? That's completely mad.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Min on November 15, 2015, 10:07:18 am
This is a translation of someone's experiences as the shooter walked in. Crazy stuff


I was in the Bataclan tonight. I went home an hour ago but I can't get any sleep anyway. I don't have the full story, the situation quickly made it so that we didn't had any visibility on the terrorist's objectives, the room, etc. Here are my feelings, "my" version.
When we heard "fireworks", I was in the pit close to the stairs when terrorists entered, and I ran directly towards the scene on the right side, by reflex. In my "space", everybody was wrapped around in non-probable positions, it was painful for everybody, face against the floor, the head propped on anything close, a leg for example. And at the bottom was a bloodbath.
And that's how the worst game I ever played began. The waiting game. A dead silence in the room only broken by erratic gunshots. No timing, no logic, nothing. Just, sometimes, a gunshot. And you're wondering if the next shot is for you.
Awaiting the arrival of the police, without any notion of time (no watch, cellphone unreachable). People stand up to get slaughtered immediately. And again, and again... no way to move because a single movement is painful, both for you and the others (we were really tangled up). No way to walk, to whisper, nothing. Somebody starts crying? This person is welcomed by collective "shhh".
The terrorists didn't said anything, except at the beginning something about Syria, Hollande (our president) and the fact that it was only the beginning. At the start, they're "exploring" the location, shooting randomly at people on the ground. Then we didn't see them. Then we heard more gunshots.
It's impossible to stand up and to run away, all my muscles are asleep and there's no way to get a view of the room without potentially catching a terrorist's eye, a chance I didn't dare to take. I bet everything on the police. We say to ourselves that in a case like that, the whole army should be running, even the Charles-de-Gaulle (our aircraft ship) on the Seine, that somebody is going to enter and do something.
We obviously have no idea of the simultaneous events in République and the Stade de France. And nobody comes. Gunshots continue. And we keep waiting, playing the lottery with the terrorists. With awful thoughts like, "Please, not me, aim for the other side of the room". These thoughts are interrupted by gunshots.
At one point (perhaps the middle), there's an explosion. According to other witnesses, it's a grenade they threw in the pit. I can't confirm, only that it was an explosion. And that's when the waiting game takes another form. They have explosives. Fanatics armed with explosives killing without provocation... Your mind immediately moves to the worst-case scenario: we are of no value to them.
I'm naturally wondering whether the goal is simply to blow the whole building up, or at least us. The waiting game intensifies. Time becomes longer. Pain is getting greater. People are panicking and suffering more and more. Phones ring because close relatives want to check on their loved ones, another stress bringer (no noise!). We're looking to find comfort in each others' eyes with the few people we can see, only to find the same fear.
Where are the police? What are they doing? We start to really panic inside. Finally, somebody whispers, "Police are here". Then everything changes. Time becomes even more long because they don't intervene right away. At this time I think that the terrorists went upstairs somewhere in the Bataclan because the police come in without shooting.
A herd of police arrive. Standing up, helping others to stand up, seeing policemen in armor storm the Bataclan... It was an indescribable relief. We're looking to each other, blessed to be alive. We obviously stay cautious. The police don't seem to know if the terrorists are in the building or elsewhere.
Finally the police receive intel that they've gone elsewhere. We start walking, heads in our hands, relieved and happy to be safe. The happiness is quickly stopped by a vision of a nightmare. Dozens of bodies, people agonizing, a sea of blood in the pit. Awful. Horrible. I look to the zone in which I was before running to the bottom and I see several bodies. It could have easily been me.
I get out quickly, still with my hands on the head, and see the entrance personnel of the Bataclan lying on the floor (the "fireworks" we heard before, when the terrorists came in). I take a few steps and I collapse. A flood of tears. I don't even remember last time I cried before tonight, but I can't stop. I'm shaking. But I'm alive. Finally, we are regrouped in cafés on the next street, thankful to have made it and taking to our cellphones to call loved ones. And we learn about all the other attacks. République, Stade de France, etc.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dodo on November 15, 2015, 10:15:05 am
That's awful. Have you a link to the source ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Min on November 15, 2015, 10:22:36 am
That's awful. Have you a link to the source ?

Yes, https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3suexn/the_arrival_of_terrorists_in_bataclan_theatre/cx0njfh
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Danik on November 15, 2015, 11:38:29 am
Who was it done by? Who were the target? Why did they do this? Links to news articles? So much for a good OP.

A whole lot of people who seek refuge are criminal opportunists, even refugees and people from their origin countries say that. Basically Europe is getting the worst from Arab countries, Africa and Afghanistan with somewhere under 50% legit refugees/immigrants. You don't know who did this terror attack? Really? Someone whose countrymen are glad that they left them for Europe.

Speaking of reactions to this event, the first thing I read in youtube comments was people who show support the Russian bombing of ISIS.

Do you have facts to back up these theories of yours?
What exactly of what I said is a 'theory'? I live in Europe and am reading news as well as hearing seeing what happens where I live. Should crime and rape statistics by asylum seekers be good enough facts for you?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 15, 2015, 11:43:03 am
All you do is shout "I have statistics!" without showing them.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 12:10:29 pm
You know my condolences to the french people after such a horrible attack, but I would like to bring to peoples attention that 65 Palestinians (including 14 kids) were murdered by the Israeli armed forces this month oh and lets not forget when Israel justified there murder of over 2300 Palestinians oh and yesh do not forget the bombing of UN schools. Why no thread for these innocent human beings. Why does the western media ignore all of this but when something happens us its almost like the end of the world. The things we have done to the middle eastern people far out weighs what they did to us. All in all it is a shame that we have to live in such a horrible world.

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Furrnox on November 15, 2015, 12:17:21 pm
D00d Israel is western ally they can't do anything wrong.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 12:39:28 pm
sorry if someone already said this, but I have not enough time to read the whole thread!

Although she may be a good leader in peaceful times, the current situation shows how unsuitable Angela Merkel is as a german chancellor.
It's time for Germany, and all other european countries, to become active in the war against ISIS. I mean why do a country has armed forces? If we fight the ISIS in two ways, the open war and the terrorism in the background, we can defeat them. Yes, there will be soldiers dying, but everyone who goes into the army knows about the dangers of it.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 12:40:25 pm
Who was it done by? Who were the target? Why did they do this? Links to news articles? So much for a good OP.

A whole lot of people who seek refuge are criminal opportunists, even refugees and people from their origin countries say that. Basically Europe is getting the worst from Arab countries, Africa and Afghanistan with somewhere under 50% legit refugees/immigrants. You don't know who did this terror attack? Really? Someone whose countrymen are glad that they left them for Europe.

Speaking of reactions to this event, the first thing I read in youtube comments was people who show support the Russian bombing of ISIS.

Do you have facts to back up these theories of yours?
What exactly of what I said is a 'theory'? I live in Europe and am reading news as well as hearing seeing what happens where I live. Should crime and rape statistics by asylum seekers be good enough facts for you?


I've allready told you that the german statistics clearly show that refugees do not commit more crimes then the average german
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Olafson on November 15, 2015, 12:42:24 pm
Is it actually confirmed that the people in Paris were ISIS fighters?

Sorry, I did not read the thread and I am not checking the news as all this Paris bullshit is extremly annoying, and I really don't care what happened there.
But I just wanna make sure that the attackers were part of ISIS. Why? Because then I know who to laugh at.

Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Furrnox on November 15, 2015, 12:43:57 pm
Laugh at, what?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Olafson on November 15, 2015, 12:45:07 pm
People that are stupid. Anyway, is it confirmed that it was ISIS fighters?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 15, 2015, 12:45:42 pm
Is it actually confirmed that the people in Paris were ISIS fighters?

Sorry, I did not read the thread and I am not checking the news as all this Paris bullshit is extremly annoying, and I really don't care what happened there.
But I just wanna make sure that the attackers were part of ISIS. Why? Because then I know who to laugh at.
Well, they annouced it's their work, but who knows
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Olafson on November 15, 2015, 12:48:51 pm
Didn't some of the attackers survive?

It makes a huge difference who attacked. I mean for all I know, it could have been a local biker gang going all crazy. Unlikely, but possible...
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 12:54:59 pm
I've allready told you that the german statistics clearly show that refugees do not commit more crimes then the average german

and why did the police say, after there was big fight in a refugee camp, that there is a problem, that the politics play down the situation in Germany and mostly report about positive things?

It's a shame that the right-wing uses negative reports for their propaganda. If you say something negative about the refugee-problem you are a nazi... freedom of speech?!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 01:06:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/oDUzF27.jpg)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 15, 2015, 01:06:51 pm
Actually Refugees do commit more crimes if you look at the statistics. But those crimes are crimes like "Illegal Immigration" :D
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 01:07:04 pm
sorry if someone already said this, but I have not enough time to read the whole thread!

Although she may be a good leader in peaceful times, the current situation shows how unsuitable Angela Merkel is as a german chancellor.
It's time for Germany, and all other european countries, to become active in the war against ISIS. I mean why do a country has armed forces? If we fight the ISIS in two ways, the open war and the terrorism in the background, we can defeat them. Yes, there will be soldiers dying, but everyone who goes into the army knows about the dangers of it.

So you are calling other people to manage your problems? Why don't you join the army yourself then? Are you afraid of dieing or just too lazy? I really love that people "knowing" who is bad and who is good and what to do. Yes it is on the time to fight ISIS, but I'm honestly fed up with all that couchgenerals in Germany "knowing" everything and demanding to fight ISIS  and solve all problems while doing nothing to help the situation.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 01:10:36 pm
Actually Refugees do commit more crimes if you look at the statistics. But those crimes are crimes like "Illegal Immigration" :D

Yeah, because they're poor. Sure is hard to not sell drugs, steal, etc when your only alternative is begging or starvation.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 15, 2015, 01:12:05 pm
Actually Refugees do commit more crimes if you look at the statistics. But those crimes are crimes like "Illegal Immigration" :D

Yeah, because they're poor. Sure is hard to not sell drugs, steal, etc when your only alternative is begging or starvation.
I thought refugees come to Europe in Party boats with the big dream of selling drugs in the park ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 01:14:32 pm
that's the jews
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 01:15:24 pm
that's the jews


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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 15, 2015, 01:29:46 pm
not funny right now...
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 15, 2015, 01:38:19 pm
Why?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 15, 2015, 01:40:36 pm
I'd just nuke IS, easy as that.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 01:41:25 pm
I'd just nuke IS, easy as that.
And kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings.

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Furrnox on November 15, 2015, 01:41:50 pm
But we get our oil back!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 01:43:31 pm
nuke israel
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 01:44:06 pm
nuke israel
I agree but evacuate palestinians first

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 15, 2015, 01:44:36 pm
Nuke Middle East.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 01:44:53 pm
Nuke Middle East.
No.

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2015, 01:49:02 pm
Lets just carve the middle east and send it space?  ???
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
Lets just carve the middle east and send it space?  ???
No.

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 15, 2015, 01:54:25 pm
I'd just nuke IS, easy as that.
And kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings.

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It doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 02:08:26 pm
I could become a Ghoul.  8)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 15, 2015, 02:10:07 pm
I could become a Ghoul.  8)

And wouldn't that be cool?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 15, 2015, 02:11:28 pm
I'd just nuke IS, easy as that.
And kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings.

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It doesn't matter.
.... what's wrong with you people?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 02:12:25 pm
.... what's wrong with you people?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Rhen on November 15, 2015, 02:13:02 pm
Most of you sadden me. No insight at all.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 02:13:14 pm
Most of you sadden me. No insight at all.


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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 15, 2015, 02:14:29 pm
Most of you sadden me. No insight at all.


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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 02:15:39 pm
Most of you sadden me. No insight at all.


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Could you please fucking stop quoting everything and go on your fucking PC?!
Ok
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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 02:20:12 pm
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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 15, 2015, 02:23:11 pm
Spoiler
I'd just nuke IS, easy as that.
And kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings.

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It doesn't matter.
.... what's wrong with you people?
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Nothing I guess
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 02:25:31 pm
Bundespräsident Joachim Gauck is just holding a wonderful speech:  http://www.bundespraesident.de/SharedDocs/Reden/DE/Joachim-Gauck/Reden/2015/11/151115-Volkstrauertag.html
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: OttoFIN on November 15, 2015, 03:44:58 pm
Anyone else getting tired of the #Pray4Paris?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 15, 2015, 03:45:28 pm
Anyone else getting tired of the #Pray4Paris?
Yes
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2015, 04:09:56 pm
Anyone else getting tired of the #Pray4Paris?
Yes

#Pray4Paris
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 15, 2015, 04:14:27 pm
just noticed new YT logo
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 15, 2015, 04:50:58 pm
Anyone else getting tired of the #Pray4Paris?

Yes! Paris isn't being invaded, it's a single terrorist attack. Grow up.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2015, 04:54:25 pm
Anyone else getting tired of the #Pray4Paris?

Yes! Paris isn't being invaded, it's a single terrorist attack. Grow up.

#Pray4Paris
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 15, 2015, 05:01:55 pm
Anyone else getting tired of the #Pray4Paris?

Yes! Paris isn't being invaded, it's a single terrorist attack. Grow up.

#Pray4Paris
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 06:26:03 pm
Crowds gather for a memorial service at Notre Dame.

Edit: The service has just started
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 07:23:07 pm
There were two large panics in Paris during the last 40 minutes but the all clear has allready been given
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 07:23:48 pm
People were gathering at the Place de la République a few minutes ago. They panicked for whatever reason, and now the place is empty.

Edit: Ted was first.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 07:32:55 pm
People were gathering at the Place de la République a few minutes ago. They panicked for whatever reason, and now the place is empty.

Edit: Ted was first.

Aye, I has just been watching a livestream from there when it happened. Suddendly people started to scream and run away while police pushed in. Even the cameraman left his camera there and ran for his life. A quite curious situation, showing how triggered the people there react on loud bangs now.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 07:40:12 pm
sorry if someone already said this, but I have not enough time to read the whole thread!

Although she may be a good leader in peaceful times, the current situation shows how unsuitable Angela Merkel is as a german chancellor.
It's time for Germany, and all other european countries, to become active in the war against ISIS. I mean why do a country has armed forces? If we fight the ISIS in two ways, the open war and the terrorism in the background, we can defeat them. Yes, there will be soldiers dying, but everyone who goes into the army knows about the dangers of it.

So you are calling other people to manage your problems? Why don't you join the army yourself then? Are you afraid of dieing or just too lazy? I really love that people "knowing" who is bad and who is good and what to do. Yes it is on the time to fight ISIS, but I'm honestly fed up with all that couchgenerals in Germany "knowing" everything and demanding to fight ISIS  and solve all problems while doing nothing to help the situation.

 I'm still going to school, so no time to join the army. I would join the army after school as an officer cadet, but as long as they don't allow people to wear long hair in the army I can't. It's a shame that in Germany armed forces are not respected and accepted very well.

Why do you have an army, if you don't use it for good causes? It's also a good opportunity for our forces to gain war experience. An army without experience in the current warfare is worth nothing!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 15, 2015, 07:41:34 pm
You're not joining the army because you don't want to lose your long hair? Hahaha
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 07:49:07 pm
You not joining the army because you don't want to loose your "long hair" as excuse just gave me a facepalm.  Could you also please explain to me why the Bundeswehr has no experience in warfare? We got Afghanistan and Kosovo; and sorry, but the fact that you do not join the army because of your hair just shows what a couchgeneral you are.

Btw having short hair is a logic thing: long hairs may f..ck up your sight in battle. And they burn quite good as well....

And btw calling a war against terrorists a good opportunity for anything is pure stupidity. It may be a good opportunity to show the population that soldiers die during a war, especially against terrorists. But war is no good opportunity for anything. It's just a cruel thing noone really wants to be in but everyone wants to send other people to.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 07:59:07 pm
Btw having short hair is a logic thing: long hairs may f..ck up your sight in battle. And they burn quite good as well....

and why are women allowed to wear long hair in the Bundeswehr then?

It may be a good opportunity to show the population that soldiers die during a war, especially against terrorists.

of course soldiers are dying in a war. But in Germany we don't have the compulsory military service, which means that every soldier, who joins the Bundeswehr does it voluntarily and knows about the risks.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: BabyJesus on November 15, 2015, 07:59:47 pm
You're not joining the army because you don't want to lose your long hair? Hahaha
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 08:07:13 pm
Btw having short hair is a logic thing: long hairs may f..ck up your sight in battle. And they burn quite good as well....

and why are women allowed to wear long hair in the Bundeswehr than?

It may be a good opportunity to show the population that soldiers die during a war, especially against terrorists.

of course soldiers are dying in a war. But in Germany we don't have the compulsory military service, which means that every soldier, who joins the Bundeswehr does it voluntarily and knows about the risks.

Women also have to wear their hair according to the rules.

And I advice you to stop behaving like that. Every soldier knows the risk, but that does not mean that some guy who is afraid of short hairs should behave as if he knew anything about war and when, why and where our soldiers should fight. Every soldier fights for the Bundesrepublik. And they in fact even fight and die for people like you: couchgenerals who are afraid of doing anything themselves. But that still does not give you the moral right to behave like "I don't care if they die it's their job". That's highly disrespectful.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 08:19:52 pm
Women also have to wear their hair according to the rules.

And I advice you to stop behaving like that. Every soldier knows the risk, but that does not mean that some guy who is afraid of short hairs should behave as if he knew anything about war and when, why and where our soldiers should fight. Every soldier fights for the Bundesrepublik. And they in fact even fight and die for people like you: couchgenerals who are afraid of doing anything themselves. But that still does not give you the moral right to behave like "I don't care if they die it's their job". That's highly disrespectful.

women are allowed to war long hair: http://augengeradeaus.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Erscheinungsbild_Soldat-innen.pdf (siehe Punkt 204)

I never said that I don't care about the dying of soldiers in wars! Also I'm not afraid of doing anything by myself, but it's logical to finish school first before doing anything...
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 08:25:46 pm
Women also have to wear their hair according to the rules.

And I advice you to stop behaving like that. Every soldier knows the risk, but that does not mean that some guy who is afraid of short hairs should behave as if he knew anything about war and when, why and where our soldiers should fight. Every soldier fights for the Bundesrepublik. And they in fact even fight and die for people like you: couchgenerals who are afraid of doing anything themselves. But that still does not give you the moral right to behave like "I don't care if they die it's their job". That's highly disrespectful.

women are allowed to war long hair: http://augengeradeaus.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Erscheinungsbild_Soldat-innen.pdf (siehe Punkt 204)

I never said that I don't care about the dying of soldiers in wars! Also I'm not afraid of doing anything by myself, but it's logical to finish school first before doing anything...

As I said: women need to wear their hair according to rules also. (Auch bei Frauen müssen die Augen frei sein. Wenn die Haare den Kragen berühren würden müssen sie hochgesteckt werden oder geflochten werden, dürfen jedoch den Sitz der Kopfbedeclung nicht beeinträchtigen. Da ist es mit langen Haaren also auch schwer.)

You still are behaving as you didn't care and I'm quite sure you won't do anything after school. But if that is your own statement you should stop talking about the risks the soldiers volunteered for and the "opportunities" of a war for them. Just stop it. It makes you look like a couchgeneral.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MarshalKim on November 15, 2015, 08:48:45 pm
Please shut the fuck up and join the army or don't.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 08:50:04 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MarshalKim on November 15, 2015, 08:55:22 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Because politics aren't guided by morals.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2015, 08:56:34 pm
Women also have to wear their hair according to the rules.

And I advice you to stop behaving like that. Every soldier knows the risk, but that does not mean that some guy who is afraid of short hairs should behave as if he knew anything about war and when, why and where our soldiers should fight. Every soldier fights for the Bundesrepublik. And they in fact even fight and die for people like you: couchgenerals who are afraid of doing anything themselves. But that still does not give you the moral right to behave like "I don't care if they die it's their job". That's highly disrespectful.

women are allowed to war long hair: http://augengeradeaus.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Erscheinungsbild_Soldat-innen.pdf (siehe Punkt 204)

I never said that I don't care about the dying of soldiers in wars! Also I'm not afraid of doing anything by myself, but it's logical to finish school first before doing anything...

As I said: women need to wear their hair according to rules also. (Auch bei Frauen müssen die Augen frei sein. Wenn die Haare den Kragen berühren würden müssen sie hochgesteckt werden oder geflochten werden, dürfen jedoch den Sitz der Kopfbedeclung nicht beeinträchtigen. Da ist es mit langen Haaren also auch schwer.)

You still are behaving as you didn't care and I'm quite sure you won't do anything after school. But if that is your own statement you should stop talking about the risks the soldiers volunteered for and the "opportunities" of a war for them. Just stop it. It makes you look like a couchgeneral.

It's Armchair General, Ted ;*).
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 15, 2015, 08:57:50 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2015, 09:05:32 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.

He's German, most of those wars are American. I see the point you're trying to get at but still.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 09:07:53 pm
I doubt that the inhabitants of Syria would welcome a foreign invasion, even against ISIS. Because that would mean a proper invasion, sending thousands of men on the ground, bulding bases and infrastructures, securing all this shit. This is hardly compatible with the existence of a sovereign government in Syria. Plus, how long would we need to maintain troops? Terrorists can hide, just like the Taliban did in 2001, and counter-attack a few years later.

Stop supporting other jihadi networks such as the Al-Nusra Front and that will be a great step forward! There are enough troops fighting on the ground: the Syrian government, the Hezbollah and the Kurds. That's more than enough to win a war. In addition, peace between the Syrian government and the (small) remnants of the FSA is totally possible right now.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 09:09:58 pm
I doubt that the inhabitants of Syria would welcome a foreign invasion, even against ISIS. Because that would mean a proper invasion, sending thousands of men on the ground, bulding bases and infrastructures, securing all this shit. This is hardly compatible with the existence of a sovereign government in Syria. Plus, how long would we need to maintain troops? Terrorists can hide, just like the Taliban did in 2001, and counter-attack a few years later.

Stop supporting other jihadi networks such as the Al-Nusra Front and that will be a great step forward! There are enough troops fighting on the ground: the Syrian government, the Hezbollah and the Kurds. That's more than enough to win a war.

But you know that all this troops fight each other you know?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 15, 2015, 09:19:13 pm
I doubt that the inhabitants of Syria would welcome a foreign invasion, even against ISIS. Because that would mean a proper invasion, sending thousands of men on the ground, bulding bases and infrastructures, securing all this shit. This is hardly compatible with the existence of a sovereign government in Syria. Plus, how long would we need to maintain troops? Terrorists can hide, just like the Taliban did in 2001, and counter-attack a few years later.

Stop supporting other jihadi networks such as the Al-Nusra Front and that will be a great step forward! There are enough troops fighting on the ground: the Syrian government, the Hezbollah and the Kurds. That's more than enough to win a war.

But you know that all this troops fight each other you know?
No. The Syrian government, the Hezbollah and the Kurds are allies. Although the Kurds had a rather neutral position at the beginning, and sometimes fought against government forces, there was never open opposition between them. Then, as the conflict evolved and the jihadists became more and more threatening, and started attacking the Kurds, and as ISIS rats invaded Syria, the Kurds clearly allied to government forces.
The Hezbollah has been behind the Syrian government for years, long before the beginning of the war.

FSA is still officially fighting against the governement, but Moscow has begun negociating with them and now they are providing intel on ISIS.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Helikaon on November 15, 2015, 09:21:03 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.

In Germany the only war we learn about in high school history is WW II and Hitler, nothing else.

The problem is, that ISIS is an ideology and defeating an ideology isn't that easy. There are more than one ways, how we must fight them. But two of these ways are in an open war and fighting the terrorists in the background with the help of informers and spies.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 09:37:18 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.

In Germany the only war we learn about in high school history is WW II and Hitler, nothing else.

The problem is, that ISIS is an ideology and defeating an ideology isn't that easy. There are more than one ways, how we must fight them. But two of these ways are in an open war and fighting the terrorists in the background with the help of informers and spies.

I don't know in which Federal State you live but in Bavaria you learn about this wars.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2015, 09:42:30 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.

In Germany the only war we learn about in high school history is WW II and Hitler, nothing else.

The problem is, that ISIS is an ideology and defeating an ideology isn't that easy. There are more than one ways, how we must fight them. But two of these ways are in an open war and fighting the terrorists in the background with the help of informers and spies.

I don't know in which Federal State you live but in Bavaria you learn about this wars.

All the American wars that Germany did nothing in because it was still in 2 parts? Stop pulling shit out of your arse. Most History is about your nation or stuff you had something to do with, there is no way you learned about all those fucking wars when half of them mean nothing to Germany. Except a few of the Communist ones.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 15, 2015, 09:51:37 pm
Spoiler
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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 15, 2015, 09:55:09 pm
Oh lol.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 09:58:17 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.

In Germany the only war we learn about in high school history is WW II and Hitler, nothing else.

The problem is, that ISIS is an ideology and defeating an ideology isn't that easy. There are more than one ways, how we must fight them. But two of these ways are in an open war and fighting the terrorists in the background with the help of informers and spies.

I don't know in which Federal State you live but in Bavaria you learn about this wars.

All the American wars that Germany did nothing in because it was still in 2 parts? Stop pulling shit out of your arse. Most History is about your nation or stuff you had something to do with, there is no way you learned about all those fucking wars when half of them mean nothing to Germany. Except a few of the Communist ones.

I would appreciate you stopping to insult people. And as I said you definiteley learn about those wars. Just check the Lehrplan für Bayerische Gymnasien.

I remind you to stop posting here if the only thing you can do is insult people for no reason.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 15, 2015, 09:59:15 pm

Locking this thread until the mess is cleaned up by mods. I do not want to see insults or hate here! Stay on topic, please.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 16, 2015, 12:42:17 pm
Although this has not been cleaned up I decided to unlock the thread again. Just keep insults and hate out of here, please.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Furrnox on November 16, 2015, 12:57:26 pm
I hate Ted I hate FSE I hate ISIS I hate USA I hate France I hate cold coffee.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 16, 2015, 01:24:58 pm
Do you think that 4chan thing was funny or nah ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 16, 2015, 01:25:44 pm
I hate Ted I hate FSE I hate ISIS I hate USA I hate France I hate cold coffee.
Ice coffee is cool, cmon
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 16, 2015, 02:03:46 pm
One of the terrorists was called Samy Amimour. In December 2014, Le Monde published an article explaining how his father travelled to Syria to bring him back in France, as he was fighting with IS in Raqqah. He eventually came back to blow himself up.

Also it was confirmed that the Syrian passport is a fake. Thus, all identified terrorists are French.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DaMonkey on November 16, 2015, 02:50:02 pm
Do you think that 4chan thing was funny or nah ?

I don't think it was funny, but I do think it's sad that people can mistake those babby firecrackers for gunfire.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 16, 2015, 02:55:29 pm
Also it was confirmed that the Syrian passport is a fake. Thus, all identified terrorists are French.

That doesn't necessarily mean they are french, they could be other nationalities. I think 3 of them have been identified as french though, one living in France and the other two have residence in Belgium I believe.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 16, 2015, 03:37:24 pm
Do you think that 4chan thing was funny or nah ?

I don't think it was funny, but I do think it's sad that people can mistake those babby firecrackers for gunfire.
I don't think it's normal to scare people who were quite near to death last day. That joke was pathetic.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 16, 2015, 03:39:45 pm
Apparently France fought back and bombed Raqqah on Sunday.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 16, 2015, 03:50:16 pm
Those bombings were in planning before the attacks on Paris. The attacks just caused France to act sooner on those targets and will most likely cause more targets to be hit sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 16, 2015, 04:21:59 pm
the world goes to shit
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 16, 2015, 04:23:01 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Locust on November 16, 2015, 05:03:30 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
the cringe is real
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 16, 2015, 05:04:24 pm
ya nan xD
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 16, 2015, 05:07:19 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
the cringe is real
I don't understand anything he is saying
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 16, 2015, 06:08:02 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
the cringe is real
And yet they are doing a hell of a lot more than you are when you put a French flag over your Facebook profile picture.
Publicity and social media are a very real part of how ISIS has the manpower and influence that it currently does. If it was half the size it would have been crushed into irrelevance long ago. It wouldn't be gone, but they wouldn't have such a grip on the region. Whilst it may be too little, too late, I have nothing bad to say about what they're doing.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 16, 2015, 06:12:59 pm
Everything Anonymous does is too little, too late. They're the very definition of irrelevant.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 16, 2015, 06:39:35 pm
Do you think that 4chan thing was funny or nah ?

I don't think it was funny, but I do think it's sad that people can mistake those babby firecrackers for gunfire.
All identified terrorists art French. The one with a fake Syrian passport isn't identified.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 16, 2015, 06:51:18 pm
Everything Anonymous does is too little, too late. They're the very definition of irrelevant.

No. Definiteley not. If you mess with Anonymous you get raped, fucked and destroyed. The destruction of their communication will seriously hit ISIS as Operation IceISIS has allready proofed.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Grantrithor on November 16, 2015, 06:52:58 pm
Can't wait until they release a list of ISIS members who may be your congressmen and teachers and pastors and yadayadayada
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 16, 2015, 08:09:51 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/7OZOzso.jpg)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 16, 2015, 08:32:09 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
Anonymous has already been at war with ISIS, this is just now to a larger extent.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 16, 2015, 08:41:16 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
Anonymous has already been at war with ISIS, this is just now to a larger extent.
how are they in war with ISIS?  :P
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 16, 2015, 08:42:52 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
Anonymous has already been at war with ISIS, this is just now to a larger extent.
how are they in war with ISIS?  :P
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Cyber. Shutting down ISIS accounts. Hacking into ISIS and getting information, then putting it out for others to see (plans, etc).
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 16, 2015, 08:46:46 pm
Anonymous has declared war on ISIS -- in 3 hours they've already taken down 1800 ISIS-related accounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGGcZoRs-k&feature=youtu.be
Anonymous has already been at war with ISIS, this is just now to a larger extent.
how are they in war with ISIS?  :P
Cyber. Shutting down ISIS accounts. Hacking into ISIS and getting information, then putting it out for others to see (plans, etc).
fixed*
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 16, 2015, 09:48:23 pm
They've hacked 1800 accounts? What? How do you know?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 16, 2015, 09:55:14 pm
They've hacked 1800 accounts? What? How do you know?
He is anonymous

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 16, 2015, 10:30:42 pm
Everything Anonymous does is too little, too late. They're the very definition of irrelevant.

No. Definiteley not. If you mess with Anonymous you get raped, fucked and destroyed. The destruction of their communication will seriously hit ISIS as Operation IceISIS has allready proofed.

wow don't insult people lock the thread  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 17, 2015, 01:58:13 am
http://i.4cdn.org/int/1447719592475.webm

observe the "elite" belgian anti-terror units in action.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Olafson on November 17, 2015, 02:04:52 am
Pretty sure that the actual "elite" forces are the guys without uniform.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 17, 2015, 05:56:04 pm
'We’ve done this before: retaliatory bombings in Syria will not end terrorism or stem the flow of refugees. Cutting back support for Saudi Arabia might help."

http://tysongibb.net/?p=235
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Josh Faraday on November 17, 2015, 07:12:20 pm
I don't like the idea of dying soldiers in a war too, but I can't see another way of dealing with ISIS. There are already many local people who die while fighting the ISIS. Why let them die for us, if we could help them with our well equipped armed forces?

Ah, perfect! Everyone forgets what they learned in high school history as soon as it's actually applicable to the current world.

Remember Korea? Remember Vietnam? Remember Afghanistan: Soviet Edition? Remember the contra wars and cartel shit in the 80s? Remember Afghanistan pt. 2: electric boogalo? Remember Iraq? Remember Lybia, Yemen, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan?

No. The lessons are already forgotten.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 07:42:31 pm
Ummm the stadion in Hannover has just been evacuated by the german authorities. The match Germany-Netherlands is cancelled.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 17, 2015, 07:46:17 pm
Ummm the stadion in Hannover has just been evacuated by the german authorities. The match Germany-Netherlands is cancelled.
what ?!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 07:49:48 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Fmultimedia%2Fbilder%2Fhanover-103%7E_v-videowebl.jpg&hash=ed89841a281b3ef504a3c99e06a103fb9e29c2aa)


ayy lmao

Well that's strange. There are two options:

a) The police just didn't want to to take over responsibility
b) There really was terror incoming

Minister of Internal Affairs is on high alert, the police is on high alert..... wtf
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 07:52:39 pm
Quote
Police have cancelled the friendly between Germany and Holland after the stadium in Hanover was evacuated on Tuesday when a suspicious object was found inside.

That suspicious object could be anything and most likely has nothing to do with the Paris attacks.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 07:54:07 pm
Quote
Police have cancelled the friendly between Germany and Holland after the stadium in Hanover was evacuated on Tuesday when a suspicious object was found inside.

That suspicious object could be anything and most likely has nothing to do with the Paris attacks.

   Nope the suspicious object was found before and it was nothing important.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Olafson on November 17, 2015, 07:54:46 pm
Yes, but so shortly after attacks on the western world, people tend to get scared very quickly. They will forget it again and go back to their normal lives in a few weeks.

It is normal. It does not make sense, but with the images of the Paris attacks in mind, people get scared much faster.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 07:55:35 pm
Whole Hannover has just been declared as highly in danger.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 07:56:59 pm
 Sorry for Doublepost but: The public transport has just been shut down in the inner city.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 17, 2015, 07:57:15 pm
Yes, but so shortly after attacks on the western world, people tend to get scared very quickly. They will forget it again and go back to their normal lives in a few weeks.

It is normal. It does not make sense, but with the images of the Paris attacks in mind, people get scared much faster.

A few weeks after this? Nah. The fear after 9/11 has persisted until today. This will be something further.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:00:26 pm
Guys, if they even shut down the public transport, evacuate large areas even around the stadion AND the minister is on its way - then we really got a problem here in Germany.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Olafson on November 17, 2015, 08:04:47 pm
Or people are just panicking, because Paris attacks are way to close.

It is very likely.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:08:04 pm
Bundesinnenminister Thomas de Maizière will hold a press conference at ~8.30pm. The President of Police said that there were real plans to blow something up. I don't know anything more right now, but it seems like there really was a bomb.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 08:09:46 pm
Wait until the press conference before jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:10:48 pm
Wait until the press conference before jumping to conclusions.

Mate I'm living in Germany and I know guys from Hannover. And I also know the President of Police said there was something explosive. So there in fact is a danger - let's hope nothing big.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 17, 2015, 08:14:18 pm
?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 17, 2015, 08:15:05 pm
Living fairly close to the area and having friends there im a tad bit worried.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:15:15 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.bz-berlin.de%2Fdata%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2Fgermany_11_1447785578-768x432.jpg&hash=46568660c21bce87a76ea9a1e7f7187004b6fd37)


(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Fmultimedia%2Fbilder%2Fhannover-147%7E_v-videowebl.jpg&hash=a453695d9847991fc23d891c6fa137775b105062)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:24:53 pm
white people shocked at their own mortality?

Stop that. As I am the one who made this thread I prohibit you to post here any further.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Rutger Müller on November 17, 2015, 08:31:50 pm
9/11 jokes are funny but paris jokes arent
hooray for double standards
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: joer5835 on November 17, 2015, 08:32:22 pm
Or people are just panicking, because Paris attacks are way to close.

It is very likely.

My first thoughts as well. People are really, really scared after what happenend in Paris. Understandable, but it could lead to overreactions. Nevertheless, it's better to be safe than sorry for now.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:32:56 pm
9/11 jokes are funny but paris jokes arent
hooray for double standards

No 9/11 jokes are not funny. And stop that offtopic shit now.



The press conference should start within the next minutes. Let's see what happened.



(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.stern.de%2F6561062%2F16x9-940-529%2F42be10d1a889830ed5e50e9b88acfa6b%2FkE%2Fhannover-spiel-stadion.jpg&hash=c2969ad8c91b17a9096e7f3fa09c4111914ce47e)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 17, 2015, 08:34:57 pm
I wasn't joking. But yeah neither are funny. The reactions to this are very bizarre and unsettling. 4th reich when?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 17, 2015, 08:37:23 pm
I wasn't joking. But yeah neither are funny. The reactions to this are very bizarre and unsettling. 4th reich when?
Do you know the HRE in EU4 ?

European Union is like that.

Germany was trying to become emperor and then annex the rest. You know, if you cant kill them, befriend them.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:41:57 pm
Parked Cars and passersbies are searched over the whole city
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 08:44:36 pm
It would be nice to get a link to the source you are finding this from instead of getting periodic snippets of the whole situation.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 08:45:17 pm
http://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/paris-371.html

http://www.n24.de/n24/Sport/Fussball/dfb-team/d/7635492/polizei-hat--konkrete-hinweise--auf-sprengstoffanschlag.html

http://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/em-2016/deutschland-holland-im-live-ticker-deutsche-und-niederlaender-im-kopf-noch-in-paris_id_5091304.html
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 08:48:36 pm
Thank you
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Fungus on November 17, 2015, 08:48:49 pm
I foresee this thread getting out of hand again if things start kicking off in Hanover


edit no pun intended
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 08:51:09 pm
I foresee this thread getting out of hand again if things start kicking off in Hanover


edit no pun intended

I doubt it, the FSE forums are full of level-headed people.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 09:06:44 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesschau.de%2Fmultimedia%2Fbilder%2Finnenministerium-107%7E_v-videowebl.jpg&hash=75277c528c2da520635819a4345512f380a82b0e)


The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Federal State Niedersachsen is heavily guarded.



(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp5.focus.de%2Fimg%2Fincoming%2Forigs5092226%2F0550442216-w467-h327-o-q75-p5%2F148ee20065ec17d3.jpg&hash=9739b97eb70e4b27e2472604af3cdb6598ee2823)

Members of the SEK at the stadion
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 09:15:55 pm
It says here (http://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/niedersachsen/fussball-laenderspiel-rettungswagen-sprengstoff-vorm-stadion-5875541.html) that they found a vehicle full of explosives in front of the stadium.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 17, 2015, 09:17:34 pm
Maybe one of the coppers is underground Muzzie

Is nowhere safe!?????!????
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 17, 2015, 09:18:55 pm
Maybe one of the coppers is underground Muzzie

Is nowhere safe!?????!????
If they keep this up 4th Reich will purge
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: joer5835 on November 17, 2015, 09:19:55 pm
It says here (http://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/niedersachsen/fussball-laenderspiel-rettungswagen-sprengstoff-vorm-stadion-5875541.html) that they found a vehicle full of explosives in front of the stadium.

If I recall correctly, wasn't that unconfirmed?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 09:21:30 pm
It says here (http://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/niedersachsen/fussball-laenderspiel-rettungswagen-sprengstoff-vorm-stadion-5875541.html) that they found a vehicle full of explosives in front of the stadium.

If I recall correctly, wasn't that unconfirmed?

Yes, it is unconfirmed. The problem is that the press conference is delayed like f...ck because of the security checks[/s]
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 09:22:31 pm
THE CONFERENCE HAS JUST STARTED

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/hannover_weser-leinegebiet/eventlivestream2352.html
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 17, 2015, 09:24:48 pm
THE CONFERENCE HAS JUST STARTED

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/hannover_weser-leinegebiet/eventlivestream2352.html

Is there a translation of it somewhere while it is going on?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 09:26:39 pm
I'm not sure what's up now. Seems like there was a real threat but it didn't go as planned.

Well, there were tons of clues so they decided to cancel the match.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 17, 2015, 09:51:42 pm
OK:

- There were tons of clues so they decided to cancel the match.
- Police will stay on high alert until tomorrow
- They can not say more because it may interfer with the National Security
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 17, 2015, 09:52:47 pm
OK:

- There were tons of clues so they decided to cancel the match.
- Police will stay on high alert until tomorrow
- They can not say more because it may interfer with the National Security
and it might scare away further informants, but NO ACTUAL BOMB WAS FOUND
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Min on November 17, 2015, 11:55:57 pm

People were gathering at the Place de la République a few minutes ago. They panicked for whatever reason, and now the place is empty.

Edit: Ted was first.

Someone decided to light firecrackers while the Parisians were mourning
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 18, 2015, 12:03:43 am
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/dRLRd1p.png)
[close]

Uh oh. Can't let raunchy opinions like THAT get out.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: KL4R1N0G4MPR0S on November 18, 2015, 12:04:43 am
http://www.theladbible.com/articles/4chan-users-allegedly-planned-sick-firecracker-prank-at-paris-vigil

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.theladbible.com%2Fimages%2Fcontent%2F5649e1e8f0434.jpg&hash=048a46cf1405e3b2d539718f04b3cb2e0cf34521)
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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: joer5835 on November 18, 2015, 12:07:26 am
What the actual fuck 4chan. I have no words for that.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 18, 2015, 01:16:55 am
Utterly disrespectful.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 18, 2015, 02:21:25 am
An interesting read:
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/16/9744640/paris-beirut-media
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 18, 2015, 02:30:30 am
Race war WHEN?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 18, 2015, 02:50:50 am
An interesting read:
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/16/9744640/paris-beirut-media
[/quote
Read about. I saw a good amount on it. But when people look at it, things like that happen a lot in the East. No one expects a major attack on a western city, especially one like Paris.

Anyways Putin signed an alliance with Paris against ISIS.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 18, 2015, 06:07:38 am
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pr0gramm.com%2F2015%2F11%2F15%2F9c33de4b984f1a35.jpg&hash=9ba253ad12345e60c3e8d81edcb0c07d21982eb3)
[close]
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 18, 2015, 10:05:45 am
A shootout has just taken place in Saint Denis. 2 deaths, 3 arrested - one woman blew herself up
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 18, 2015, 02:28:49 pm
Update:
2 terrorists dead, 7 arrested
5 lightly injured police officers

http://www.franceinfo.fr/actu/justice/article/attentats-paris-l-enquete-se-poursuit-le-principal-suspect-toujours-en-fuite-745857
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/live/2015/11/18/attentats-du-13-novembre-les-dernieres-informations-en-direct_4812231_3224.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34853657

Edit: Also heard a few reports that a police dog died during the operation.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DoctorWarband on November 18, 2015, 02:50:12 pm
Edit: Also heard a few reports that a police dog died during the operation.
That's it lads, world war 3.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: junedragon on November 18, 2015, 03:38:42 pm
"This soldier, I realized, must have had friends at home and in his regiment; yet he lay there deserted by all except his dog. I looked on, unmoved, at battles which decided the future of nations. Tearless, I had given orders which brought death to thousands. Yet here I was stirred, profoundly stirred, stirred to tears. And by what? By the grief of one dog."
-Napoleon
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 18, 2015, 03:41:41 pm
The dog was killed by the explosion.   :(
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 18, 2015, 04:14:18 pm
Propaganda is spreading. World war 3 is here. These recent events are probably what the children in the future will be taught were the reasons to why it began...
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 18, 2015, 04:19:49 pm
Calm down?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 18, 2015, 04:22:30 pm
WE WILL ALL DIE !!!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 18, 2015, 04:28:18 pm
Calm down?
Bro, my tits are calmer than my dead great great grandma's. Why would someone be calm about a world war starting anyway? You have the right to panic. :P
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 18, 2015, 04:57:29 pm
Turkish Police stopped 8 ISIS related suspects from going to Germany
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Saxon on November 18, 2015, 04:59:46 pm
WE WILL ALL DIE !!!
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Cazasar on November 18, 2015, 05:04:02 pm
Turkish Police stopped 8 ISIS related suspects from going to Germany
THANKS TURKISH POLICE !

source tho ?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 18, 2015, 05:04:48 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Saxon on November 18, 2015, 05:06:01 pm
Turkish are IS

lolwot
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 18, 2015, 05:06:13 pm
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Kill whitey
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 18, 2015, 05:12:11 pm
Turkish Police stopped 8 ISIS related suspects from going to Germany
THANKS TURKISH POLICE !

source tho ?
CNN
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 18, 2015, 06:14:15 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 18, 2015, 06:48:31 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

yeah fucking mooslims kill 'em all
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2015, 06:52:53 pm
muslims have some great banter
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 18, 2015, 07:16:34 pm
Calm down?
Bro, my tits are calmer than my dead great great grandma's. Why would someone be calm about a world war starting anyway? You have the right to panic. :P
It isn't world war 3 though

Tell you what, start panicking if American launches a pre emptive invasion of Russia or the Chinese invade the West Coast

Until then it's just another event everyone will forget less than a year from now.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 18, 2015, 07:19:34 pm
Calm down?
Bro, my tits are calmer than my dead great great grandma's. Why would someone be calm about a world war starting anyway? You have the right to panic. :P
It isn't world war 3 though

Tell you what, start panicking if American launches a pre emptive invasion of Russia or the Chinese invade the West Coast

Until then it's just another event everyone will forget less than a year from now.
Try to convince me that there is no world war when I'm actually not serious. :P
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2015, 07:21:37 pm
the mussies will hang howe from a tree eventually for being impure

he is calm because he already knows his fate
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DoctorWarband on November 18, 2015, 07:32:49 pm
To all those saying "Muslims! Muslims!" just remember - not all terrorists are Muslim, and not all Muslims are terrorists.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2015, 07:40:26 pm
To all those saying "Muslims! Muslims!" just remember - not all terrorists are Muslim, and not all Muslims are terrorists.

yeah but these terrorists are muslims so its not incorrect to call them muslims m8
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DoctorWarband on November 18, 2015, 07:44:25 pm
True, but when saying that all Muslims need to be killed, is not really a good idea. You would just kill a lot of innocent people.
That's why we are in such a problem, we can't just put them all in gas chambers (ehm ehm).
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Humlenerd on November 18, 2015, 07:45:13 pm
To all those saying "Muslims! Muslims!" just remember - not all terrorists are Muslim, and not all Muslims are terrorists.

yeah but these terrorists are muslims so its not incorrect to call them muslims m8
Just waiting for a bleeding heart leftist 14yo to respond with the good ol' "no true scotsman" to this.

True, but when saying that all Muslims need to be killed, is not really a good idea. You would just kill a lot of innocent people.
That's why we are in such a problem, we can't just put them all in gas chambers (ehm ehm).

Who's saying that all Muslims has to be killed?

Does anyone know where they got the guns, btw? Balkan, I guess.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 18, 2015, 07:47:52 pm
To all those saying "Muslims! Muslims!" just remember - not all terrorists are Muslim, and not all Muslims are terrorists.

yeah but these terrorists are muslims so its not incorrect to call them muslims m8
Just waiting for a bleeding heart leftist 14yo to respond with the good ol' "no true scotsman" to this.

When people come back after long breaks from fse and I see they became drooling poltards it makes my heart flutter a little bit but it's also disappointing.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Humlenerd on November 18, 2015, 07:51:52 pm
To all those saying "Muslims! Muslims!" just remember - not all terrorists are Muslim, and not all Muslims are terrorists.

yeah but these terrorists are muslims so its not incorrect to call them muslims m8
Just waiting for a bleeding heart leftist 14yo to respond with the good ol' "no true scotsman" to this.

When people come back after long breaks from fse and I see they became drooling poltards it makes my heart flutter a little bit but it's also disappointing.
Care to explain how this is /pol/ worthy material? I'm just pointing out that leftists love to say that it's impossible that these terrorists are "real muslims" because shits and giggles. It does not logically follow that they represent all muslims, far from it.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2015, 07:53:56 pm
To all those saying "Muslims! Muslims!" just remember - not all terrorists are Muslim, and not all Muslims are terrorists.

yeah but these terrorists are muslims so its not incorrect to call them muslims m8
Just waiting for a bleeding heart leftist 14yo to respond with the good ol' "no true scotsman" to this.

When people come back after long breaks from fse and I see they became drooling poltards it makes my heart flutter a little bit but it's also disappointing.

i swear on my fucking life i have never been on /pol, its just that the autism of living in sweden has manifested my mind

my body is trying to reject absurd amounts of socialism thus provoking an extreme opposite of stupid opinions to come out like vomit
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DoctorWarband on November 18, 2015, 07:54:30 pm
True, but when saying that all Muslims need to be killed, is not really a good idea. You would just kill a lot of innocent people.
That's why we are in such a problem, we can't just put them all in gas chambers (ehm ehm).
Quote from: Humlenerd
Who's saying that all Muslims has to be killed?

Does anyone know where they got the guns, btw? Balkan, I guess.
Well I saw some people here saying "kill all muslims m8" and etc., and I know some are jokes but I just wanted to clarify.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 18, 2015, 07:55:22 pm
Because in the minds of reactionaries it does logically follow that they represent all muslims. If what you're saying is that this is a stupid, ridiculous debate - well yes, it is. But unfortunately many people are starting to fall for the oldie but goodie nationalist rhetoric. Kill em all.

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my body is trying to reject absurd amounts of socialism thus provoking an extreme opposite of stupid opinions to come out like vomit

PC liberal garbage =/= socialism. Political correctness is partly to blame for this whole debacle because it forces people to think incredibly narrowly about social issues, which leads to conflict super easily.

Example:

White man 1: Hey, did you know black people commit more violent crime on average than white people?
PC hipster: Racist! That's not true. Black people are equal!
White man 1: Uh, what?
PC hipster: Shun him!

Whitey is correct, but he fails to identify the underlying systems of oppression which lead to these social problems in our societies. PC liberals also tend to ignore these same issues. So when a PC nazi starts screaming at the top of their lungs whenever someone says something that may be correct but isn't PC, those who don't know any better are repulsed, and tend to sympathize with right wing ideology since liberals are so god damned stupid.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Humlenerd on November 18, 2015, 07:57:32 pm
Because in the minds of reactionaries it does logically follow that they represent all muslims. If what you're saying is that this is a stupid, ridiculous debate - well yes, it is. But unfortunately many people are starting to fall for the oldie but goodie nationalist rhetoric. Kill em all.

Yes. I am saying that this is a stupid debate, and everyone wants to profit politically on this tragedy one way or another.
Edit: Critizising regular low effort Leftist arguments does not make one a /pol/ stormfag.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2015, 07:58:46 pm
True, but when saying that all Muslims need to be killed, is not really a good idea. You would just kill a lot of innocent people.
That's why we are in such a problem, we can't just put them all in gas chambers (ehm ehm).
Quote from: Humlenerd
Who's saying that all Muslims has to be killed?

Does anyone know where they got the guns, btw? Balkan, I guess.
Well I saw some people here saying "kill all muslims m8" and etc., and I know some are jokes but I just wanted to clarify.

ye its fucking immature to joke about such things

bruh i wouldnt even live for 7 seconds without hittin dat arabic ass, shit is so ez
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DoctorWarband on November 18, 2015, 08:00:56 pm
Of course it is a stupid debate - but debates is the form for people to express their feelings about things, it's a basic human nature to blow off steam. Some know how to debate and some don't. Don't worry about the ones who don't though. :)


Because in the minds of reactionaries it does logically follow that they represent all muslims. If what you're saying is that this is a stupid, ridiculous debate - well yes, it is. But unfortunately many people are starting to fall for the oldie but goodie nationalist rhetoric. Kill em all.

Yes. I am saying that this is a stupid debate, and everyone wants to profit politically on this tragedy one way or another.


Might be correct, but, keep in mind that it IS a threat to many people now, my good friend is afraid now because of ISIS and she was really idle to the whole situation. These events change people. (I won't talk about the real things that bother me because it doesn't have an actual connection to the Paris bombing, and everyone -or most people- would call me out for my opinion)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: DoctorWarband on November 18, 2015, 08:02:40 pm
True, but when saying that all Muslims need to be killed, is not really a good idea. You would just kill a lot of innocent people.
That's why we are in such a problem, we can't just put them all in gas chambers (ehm ehm).
Quote from: Humlenerd
Who's saying that all Muslims has to be killed?

Does anyone know where they got the guns, btw? Balkan, I guess.
Well I saw some people here saying "kill all muslims m8" and etc., and I know some are jokes but I just wanted to clarify.

ye its fucking immature to joke about such things

bruh i wouldnt even live for 7 seconds without hittin dat arabic ass, shit is so ez
lol?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 18, 2015, 08:05:35 pm
Could you please stop trolling here? I'm fed up with asking the mods to delete all the unnecessary posts.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Conway on November 18, 2015, 08:08:05 pm
You can't delete the posts Ted? I think I could delete posts of my Event thread?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 18, 2015, 08:09:57 pm
Could you please stop trolling here? I'm fed up with asking the mods to delete all the unnecessary posts.

Who cares dude? Where do you think we are? Go talk about this with your family if you want a real discussion.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 18, 2015, 08:16:56 pm
Could you please stop trolling here? I'm fed up with asking the mods to delete all the unnecessary posts.

Who cares dude? Where do you think we are? Go talk about this with your family if you want a real discussion.

Well ok as I have allready prohibited you to to post here yesterday and you are continuing trolling I will have a talk with Duuring about this case.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 19, 2015, 03:56:50 pm
Could you please stop trolling here? I'm fed up with asking the mods to delete all the unnecessary posts.

Who cares dude? Where do you think we are? Go talk about this with your family if you want a real discussion.

Well ok as I have allready prohibited you to to post here yesterday and you are continuing trolling I will have a talk with Duuring about this case.
You can't expect to get legit answers if you decide to bring up such a topic on the internet. Especially on FSE. :)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 19, 2015, 04:04:41 pm
Could you please stop trolling here? I'm fed up with asking the mods to delete all the unnecessary posts.

Who cares dude? Where do you think we are? Go talk about this with your family if you want a real discussion.

Well ok as I have allready prohibited you to to post here yesterday and you are continuing trolling I will have a talk with Duuring about this case.
You can't expect to get legit answers if you decide to bring up such a topic on the internet. Especially on FSE. :)

Ted cries about everything stop invading his SAFE SPACE  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 19, 2015, 04:08:36 pm
Stop being so stereotypical, some people are actually interested in what is going on and want to project their views and get some feedback etc. Just because you don't want to do this doesn't mean you have the authority to ruin it for people who want to have a sensible discussion and a very serious event which could've affected people in FSE.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 19, 2015, 04:17:50 pm
Stop being so stereotypical, some people are actually interested in what is going on and want to project their views and get some feedback etc. Just because you don't want to do this doesn't mean you have the authority to ruin it for people who want to have a sensible discussion and a very serious event which could've affected people in FSE.
You actually assume that it's actually going to turn out that way? Welcome to the internet, sir.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 19, 2015, 04:43:03 pm
Stop being so stereotypical, some people are actually interested in what is going on and want to project their views and get some feedback etc. Just because you don't want to do this doesn't mean you have the authority to ruin it for people who want to have a sensible discussion and a very serious event which could've affected people in FSE.
You actually assume that it's actually going to turn out that way? Welcome to the internet, sir.

Lol, no. I expect to be taken the piss out of, it's just how life goes, it just hope that it gets across to people, if it doesn't then I don't really lose a lot xD
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 19, 2015, 04:46:32 pm
Stop being so stereotypical, some people are actually interested in what is going on and want to project their views and get some feedback etc. Just because you don't want to do this doesn't mean you have the authority to ruin it for people who want to have a sensible discussion and a very serious event which could've affected people in FSE.

Posting sensationalist news headlines and freaking out about them turrurists is not productive or healthy. Is this a hysteria thread? There are more important things to worry about than the threat of future terrorist attacks (we've been at an elevated level of threat since 9/11). How about the thousands of refugees who are now being demonized by both the rising fascist population of Europe and the passive-aggressive "liberal" media which plays both sides to its own profit?

Terrorism is a non-issue if you do not let them scare you. Remember that we caused all of this in the first place. Focus on remaining compassionate and level-headed. Freaking out is going to gain you nothing and will only hurt other people.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 19, 2015, 04:50:55 pm
Stop being so stereotypical, some people are actually interested in what is going on and want to project their views and get some feedback etc. Just because you don't want to do this doesn't mean you have the authority to ruin it for people who want to have a sensible discussion and a very serious event which could've affected people in FSE.

Posting sensationalist news headlines and freaking out about them turrurists is not productive or healthy. Is this a hysteria thread? There are more important things to worry about than the threat of future terrorist attacks (we've been at an elevated level of threat since 9/11). How about the thousands of refugees who are now being demonized by both the rising fascist population of Europe and the passive-aggressive "liberal" media which plays both sides to its own profit?

Terrorism is a non-issue if you do not let them scare you. Remember that we caused all of this in the first place. Focus on remaining compassionate and level-headed. Freaking out is going to gain you nothing and will only hurt other people.

This is what this is about though, it's a thread to let our hate out for what happened and to explore the situation, yes I agree with you freaking out about it is not productive or healthy, but if you don't like the thread there's nothing stopping anyone form leaving, but those who do want to discuss about it or hear about it, this is a good thread to have. Tbh this is a pretty relevant thread compared to quite a lot of others out there.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 19, 2015, 04:58:19 pm
If you feel like this thread or this discussion is useless, just don't post on this thread. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on November 19, 2015, 05:00:26 pm
If you feel like this thread or this discussion is useless, just don't post on this thread. Pretty simple.

Thank you very much.



German press is saying that there were 4 planned bombs in Hannover and 5 terrorists. But that has not been confirmed by the authorities yet as far as I know.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 19, 2015, 05:03:51 pm
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 19, 2015, 05:07:39 pm
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on November 19, 2015, 05:10:31 pm
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o

Social media and websites. I don't really know how you could recruit people on bank accounts. xD
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 19, 2015, 05:11:57 pm
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o

Social media and websites. I don't really know how you could recruit people on bank accounts. xD

They say they have but is their any evidence that they have actually targeted the right people?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: GovernerPancake on November 19, 2015, 06:16:40 pm
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o

Social media and websites. I don't really know how you could recruit people on bank accounts. xD

They say they have but is their any evidence that they have actually targeted the right people?

Lol, they banned someone from Facebook named 'Isis' who is a girl named after the Egyptian Goddess of the Sun ^^
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Liam on November 19, 2015, 06:30:56 pm
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o

Social media and websites. I don't really know how you could recruit people on bank accounts. xD

They say they have but is their any evidence that they have actually targeted the right people?

Lol, they banned someone from Facebook named 'Isis' who is a girl named after the Egyptian Goddess of the Sun ^^

thats autism
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Jamez on November 19, 2015, 08:11:25 pm
Spoiler
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o

Social media and websites. I don't really know how you could recruit people on bank accounts. xD

They say they have but is their any evidence that they have actually targeted the right people?

Lol, they banned someone from Facebook named 'Isis' who is a girl named after the Egyptian Goddess of the Sun ^^

thats autism
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That's why I am always sceptical when anonymous "declare war" on something
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: junedragon on November 20, 2015, 03:52:02 am
Spoiler
Anonymous has taken down 10,000 ISIS-related accounts and websites. Gg.
Would that be social medias or maybe even bank accounts? :o

Social media and websites. I don't really know how you could recruit people on bank accounts. xD

They say they have but is their any evidence that they have actually targeted the right people?

Lol, they banned someone from Facebook named 'Isis' who is a girl named after the Egyptian Goddess of the Sun ^^

thats autism
[close]

That's why I am always sceptical when anonymous "declare war" on something
Last time I checked, anonymous can't ban people from Facebook.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MarshalKim on November 20, 2015, 04:21:05 am
If you feel like this thread or this discussion is useless, just don't post on this thread. Pretty simple.

But the people complaining and calling out Ted are the ones making the thread interesting.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: The Rebel on November 20, 2015, 04:51:05 am
Lol I use the app Telegram that ISIS uses. kek
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Grantrithor on November 20, 2015, 06:20:54 am
Terrorism is a non-issue if you do not let them scare you. Remember that we caused all of this in the first place. Focus on remaining compassionate and level-headed. Freaking out is going to gain you nothing and will only hurt other people.

I will not fall for this you fbi psyops cointelpro mossad mi6 jidf reptilian nwo elitist banker rothschild black helicopter.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 20, 2015, 09:13:25 am
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 20, 2015, 12:24:52 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Not all terrorists are muslims... :)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 20, 2015, 12:53:27 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Not all terrorists are muslims... :)

he never said that you mong, can it be that hard to actually read?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 20, 2015, 12:55:34 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Not all terrorists are muslims... :)
Yeah, but I was speaking about IS.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 20, 2015, 02:15:53 pm
Given that the Muslims of the world have all been describing how IS go against everything they believe in, I really wouldn't count IS as Muslim.
If I were to kill people and place them in a pentagram and rip their hearts out but claim that I'm a Buddhist, the world wouldn't decry Buddhism for my actions. Proportionally, we're probably talking about similar group sizes actually, given that there are well over a billion Muslims.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Killington on November 20, 2015, 04:14:53 pm
That's not quite the same though, Tiki. Ripping out hearts in a pentagram doesn't have any connection to Buddhism, like it or not, ISIS does have Islamic justification. Obviously it's misinterpreted (according to the interpretation of other Muslims), but it's still a form of Islam.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Grantrithor on November 20, 2015, 06:08:24 pm
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Not all terrorists are muslims... :)

FSE seems to surprise me every day of who the worst poster is.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MrTiki on November 20, 2015, 06:19:42 pm
I could claim that that's simply my interpretation of Buddhism. As it's my faith I am free to believe what I want; I alone dictate my personal religious beliefs.
The point I'm getting at is that irrespective of how grossly wrong or misguided a person's interpretation of a faith is, they can still claim that they subscribe to it, even if every other member of that religion actively opposes them. Thus, members of IS can call themselves Islamic all they want, and it may be what they believe, but the vast majority of Muslims worldwide hate what they're doing, and consider it to be unislamic. Thus, referring to them as Muslim, whilst being what they want, isn't really accurate at all (as in my pentagram-drawing, heart-harvesting Buddhist example).
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Grantrithor on November 20, 2015, 08:26:28 pm
I could claim that that's simply my interpretation of Buddhism. As it's my faith I am free to believe what I want; I alone dictate my personal religious beliefs.
The point I'm getting at is that irrespective of how grossly wrong or misguided a person's interpretation of a faith is, they can still claim that they subscribe to it, even if every other member of that religion actively opposes them. Thus, members of IS can call themselves Islamic all they want, and it may be what they believe, but the vast majority of Muslims worldwide hate what they're doing, and consider it to be unislamic. Thus, referring to them as Muslim, whilst being what they want, isn't really accurate at all (as in my pentagram-drawing, heart-harvesting Buddhist example).

So that means baptist aren't Christians because a majority of Christians do not identify as baptist? What you're saying makes no sense. They are Muslim just like the IRA are Catholics. There are many types of muslims in the world, and a multitude of Islamic sects. They happen to be in the subset that sucks. Muslims aren't a homogenous people just like Christians and Buddhist anyway, so everything you're saying is not just hogwash but you're arguing about something that is trivial compared to the murdering, sovereignty violation, and hostage taking that is going on. It doesn't matter if they are called muslims, ISIS, daesh, sunni, wahhabi, or what have you because people are dying to it no matter what you call it, otherwise we'd have to find some giant adjective filled phrase to describe them every time we refer to them.

Let's call them Middle Eastern Barbarous Savages for the Unity of the Arab World with Accordance to Misinterpreted Philosophies and Ideals from the Islamic Religious Scriptures - MEBSforUAWwithAMPIIRS for short. Rolls right off the tongue.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Killington on November 20, 2015, 08:57:46 pm
I could claim that that's simply my interpretation of Buddhism. As it's my faith I am free to believe what I want; I alone dictate my personal religious beliefs.
The point I'm getting at is that irrespective of how grossly wrong or misguided a person's interpretation of a faith is, they can still claim that they subscribe to it, even if every other member of that religion actively opposes them. Thus, members of IS can call themselves Islamic all they want, and it may be what they believe, but the vast majority of Muslims worldwide hate what they're doing, and consider it to be unislamic. Thus, referring to them as Muslim, whilst being what they want, isn't really accurate at all (as in my pentagram-drawing, heart-harvesting Buddhist example).

So that means baptist aren't Christians because a majority of Christians do not identify as baptist? What you're saying makes no sense. They are Muslim just like the IRA are Catholics. There are many types of muslims in the world, and a multitude of Islamic sects. They happen to be in the subset that sucks. Muslims aren't a homogenous people just like Christians and Buddhist anyway, so everything you're saying is not just hogwash but you're arguing about something that is trivial compared to the murdering, sovereignty violation, and hostage taking that is going on. It doesn't matter if they are called muslims, ISIS, daesh, sunni, wahhabi, or what have you because people are dying to it no matter what you call it, otherwise we'd have to find some giant adjective filled phrase to describe them every time we refer to them.

Let's call them Middle Eastern Barbarous Savages for the Unity of the Arab World with Accordance to Misinterpreted Philosophies and Ideals from the Islamic Religious Scriptures - MEBSforUAWwithAMPIIRS for short. Rolls right off the tongue.
I will call them Allen.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 20, 2015, 10:02:46 pm
I could claim that that's simply my interpretation of Buddhism. As it's my faith I am free to believe what I want; I alone dictate my personal religious beliefs.
The point I'm getting at is that irrespective of how grossly wrong or misguided a person's interpretation of a faith is, they can still claim that they subscribe to it, even if every other member of that religion actively opposes them. Thus, members of IS can call themselves Islamic all they want, and it may be what they believe, but the vast majority of Muslims worldwide hate what they're doing, and consider it to be unislamic. Thus, referring to them as Muslim, whilst being what they want, isn't really accurate at all (as in my pentagram-drawing, heart-harvesting Buddhist example).

protecting them moslems amirite
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Kore on November 20, 2015, 11:22:05 pm
It's like you say that christians during the Crusades weren't actually christians, because they have been murdering other people
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 22, 2015, 02:01:50 pm
Spoiler
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Not all terrorists are muslims... :)

he never said that you mong, can it be that hard to actually read?
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lol k
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 22, 2015, 04:31:38 pm
Anarchist Kurds are doing a far better job at taking down ISIS than any state forces could ever hope to do.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: junedragon on November 22, 2015, 06:47:59 pm
Anarchist Parliamentary-Democratic Kurds are doing a far better job at taking down ISIS than any state forces could ever hope to do. predominately state forces doing a good job taking down ISIS.

ftfy
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Peppers on November 22, 2015, 06:52:39 pm
anarchist
Snip
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 22, 2015, 07:34:59 pm
YPG are pretty anarchist. Peshmerga and KRG forces are nothing compared to them.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 22, 2015, 09:34:05 pm
http://en.etilaf.org/all-news/news/kurdish-anti-pyd-protests-in-hasaka.html
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 22, 2015, 09:48:30 pm
The world is black and white - Duuring 2015
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 22, 2015, 10:01:02 pm
Says the marxist.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 22, 2015, 10:39:12 pm
You've used that retort a number of times now. Is that the fullest extent of your understanding of the situation or do you have something more to elaborate on that you haven't gotten to yet?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Duuring on November 22, 2015, 10:45:40 pm
I'm just pointing at the irony of a Marxist telling me I have a black-white view of the world.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 22, 2015, 11:48:24 pm
You can make your argument soon if you want, or later, or never if that's what suits you.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 23, 2015, 06:16:09 am
anarchist
Snip
Where've you been?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 23, 2015, 06:35:03 am
Spoiler
I wouldn't call fighting against a bunch of inbred muslims a 'world war 3'
There we go again. Oh, they're muslims, eh? That's always how one defines it...

Hmm, I said 'a bunch of inbred muslims', does that define ALL muslims? nope.
Not all terrorists are muslims... :)

FSE seems to surprise me every day of who the worst poster is.
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You don't seem to be the most genius poster on here either, if I get to say so myself... ???
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Peppers on November 24, 2015, 02:16:08 am
I'm just pointing at the irony of a Marxist telling me I have a black-white view of the world.
ayyyyy lmao
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 24, 2015, 02:41:03 am
back to 9gag
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MaxLam on November 24, 2015, 10:26:48 am
Hegelian dialectics?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: MarshalKim on November 24, 2015, 09:22:36 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_6128950.html
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 24, 2015, 11:38:11 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_6128950.html
Ooooh.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Bjorn on November 24, 2015, 11:52:51 pm
you guys seen this mad picture

http://strawpoll.me/6092122/

plz don't ignore
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on November 25, 2015, 07:06:23 am
you guys seen this mad picture

http://strawpoll.me/6092122/

plz don't ignore
Who's the bastard to vote for Fus/FusV? >:( I may not know anything about french ranks, but SoD and SoP just sounds more legit. P.S: Don't post that shit here.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Augy on November 25, 2015, 08:16:49 pm
https://undercoverinfo.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/isis-survives-largely-because-turkey-allows-it-to-the-evidence/
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 25, 2015, 09:20:44 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/lgUhq3S.jpg)
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Dazzer on November 25, 2015, 09:32:35 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/lgUhq3S.jpg)
do you also have expanded pack?
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Stark99 on November 27, 2015, 10:42:57 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/lgUhq3S.jpg)
Well Israel is already a fake terrorist nation so they can not create terrorism

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Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Ted on December 04, 2015, 08:43:32 pm
Unlocked.


But just to make this clear:


As I am owner of this thread: KurassierNixon, Colonel Howe and McLovin you are not allowed to post here anymore until the decision is revoked by me due to recent trolling by you. By posting here again you agree to be muted by a moderator. Any post of yours here is seen as begging for being muted.


I'm fed up with trolls like you.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris [Keep it serious!]
Post by: KurassierNixon on December 04, 2015, 08:46:19 pm
Deport all muslims back to africa
Title: Re: Terror in Paris
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 04, 2015, 08:50:31 pm
Unlocked.


But just to make this clear:


As I am owner of this thread: KurassierNixon, Colonel Howe and McLovin you are not allowed to post here anymore until the decision is revoked by me due to recent trolling by you. By posting here again you agree to be muted by a moderator. Any post of yours here is seen as begging for being muted.


I'm fed up with trolls like you.
Oh get off your high horse, seriously. Fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris [Keep it serious!]
Post by: KurassierNixon on December 04, 2015, 08:52:30 pm
Ted is more of a terrorist than ISIS because ISIS lets me shit post online and ted doesn't.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris [Keep it serious!]
Post by: Killington on December 04, 2015, 08:56:10 pm
To be clear, Ted, you can not simply order people away from a thread because you are the original poster. You may request that a poster leaves the thread of a regiment you lead, but this does not apply across the entire forum.

However, please keep the discussion somewhat serious and on topic.
Title: Re: Terror in Paris [Keep it serious!]
Post by: Ted on December 04, 2015, 08:58:46 pm
To be clear, Ted, you can not simply order people away from a thread because you are the original poster. You may request that a poster leaves the thread of a regiment you lead, but this does not apply across the entire forum.

However, please keep the discussion somewhat serious and on topic.

Don't think so, but you are the mod. I still have been asking Duuring to help me with this for weeks now - what he did. Seems like I will have to wait for him in this case.


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