I didnt like it that much.
At best, it is just a worse version of Overwatch.
I didnt like it that much.
At best, it is just a worse version of Overwatch.
How is it a worse version of Overwatch?
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I didnt like it that much.
At best, it is just a worse version of Overwatch.
How is it a worse version of Overwatch?Spoiler[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn7HZsr_rLQ&[/youtube][close]
Well, alot of what he says Paladins does well is subjective at best.
I actually hated the cards system in Paladins, and I disliked the items even more.
Character progression like that is just not needed in a game like that in my opinion. It adds needless complexity and forces you to specialize more. It turns the game more into a MOBA with skillshots. If I wanted that, I would just go play Hi-Rez's other game, SMITE.
I much prefer Overwatch's way of ditching character progression and specialization of being able to switch out mid match. He talked about how "If you are character X in Overwatch, you can only do X thing". That is true, but the difference between Overwatch and Paladins is that I am not locked into that character. Say I want to do Y thing later in the game, I can just switch to Y character.
Not sure if its still the same, but last time I played Paladins the match times were MUCH longer than they were in Overwatch, which I think is an incredibly poor design choice. Games like this are better with intense short matches rather than long drawn out matches, which is why the game feels more like a MOBA.
The point he was really going after is "Despite Overwatch being higher quality, Paladins has made better design choices" which I completely disagree with. i think that not only is Overwatch just generally of a higher quality, it was designed with a better understanding of the game they were trying to create and as such just feels far superior.
Paladins isn't a terrible game, but when you try to compare a F2P title of a only moderately known studio to a P2P title of one of the most legendary studios in all of gaming, its only natural that it can't compete. So I say if you can't afford Overwatch, Paladins is not a bad game to get a feel of the genre with. However when comparing the two, Overwatch is almost universally better.
I gave it a go a little while back and got like 75 eliminations on my first game, it was enjoyable but I think I still prefer Overwatch;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2azeM_TAk-s&list=PLxYt0mUdSj7ua6xW015Da3uY_z-ZB94fB&index=98[close]
shit game
I legit had no idea what I was doing but it went fairly well. ;D I haven't played it in a while but would happily play it again and see the updates.I gave it a go a little while back and got like 75 eliminations on my first game, it was enjoyable but I think I still prefer Overwatch;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2azeM_TAk-s&list=PLxYt0mUdSj7ua6xW015Da3uY_z-ZB94fB&index=98[close]
Nice i think the most i have had is in the 50-60 range.Video wont play for me thoughYour commentary cracked me up a few times, that penta kill was sick lol. Cassie was so OP, thank god she just got nerfed. :P
I legit had no idea what I was doing but it went fairly well. ;D I haven't played it in a while but would happily play it again and see the updates.I gave it a go a little while back and got like 75 eliminations on my first game, it was enjoyable but I think I still prefer Overwatch;Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2azeM_TAk-s&list=PLxYt0mUdSj7ua6xW015Da3uY_z-ZB94fB&index=98[close]
Nice i think the most i have had is in the 50-60 range.Video wont play for me thoughYour commentary cracked me up a few times, that penta kill was sick lol. Cassie was so OP, thank god she just got nerfed. :P
Just a shit overwatch.
Just a shit overwatch.
I didnt like it that much.
At best, it is just a worse version of Overwatch.
How is it a worse version of Overwatch?Spoiler[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn7HZsr_rLQ&[/youtube][close]
Well, alot of what he says Paladins does well is subjective at best.
I actually hated the cards system in Paladins, and I disliked the items even more.
Character progression like that is just not needed in a game like that in my opinion. It adds needless complexity and forces you to specialize more. It turns the game more into a MOBA with skillshots. If I wanted that, I would just go play Hi-Rez's other game, SMITE.
I much prefer Overwatch's way of ditching character progression and specialization of being able to switch out mid match. He talked about how "If you are character X in Overwatch, you can only do X thing". That is true, but the difference between Overwatch and Paladins is that I am not locked into that character. Say I want to do Y thing later in the game, I can just switch to Y character.
Not sure if its still the same, but last time I played Paladins the match times were MUCH longer than they were in Overwatch, which I think is an incredibly poor design choice. Games like this are better with intense short matches rather than long drawn out matches, which is why the game feels more like a MOBA.
The point he was really going after is "Despite Overwatch being higher quality, Paladins has made better design choices" which I completely disagree with. i think that not only is Overwatch just generally of a higher quality, it was designed with a better understanding of the game they were trying to create and as such just feels far superior.
Paladins isn't a terrible game, but when you try to compare a F2P title of a only moderately known studio to a P2P title of one of the most legendary studios in all of gaming, its only natural that it can't compete. So I say if you can't afford Overwatch, Paladins is not a bad game to get a feel of the genre with. However when comparing the two, Overwatch is almost universally better.
But what you are saying makes Overwatch better is literally all opinion based. How can you say Overwatch is universally better when in reality the games are extremely similar and the mechanics and performance of BOTH games are very smooth and well polished. Paladins offers a more in depth take on the genre while Overwatch seems to me like a more basic FPS with less depth overall.
My point is the only thing that really separates the games are personal little tweaks and some minor but substantial differences. I think both are good games but to say paladins is a worse version just is not true and isn't giving the game the props it deserves. In my opinion people shouldn't hate on the opposite of the one they like they should just say i prefer BLANK for BLANK reasons. Because i believe both games have unique traits and experiences to offer and both are very high quality games.
Also how long has it been since you played Paladins? The game has progressed a TON from what i can tell.
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.
I didnt like it that much.
At best, it is just a worse version of Overwatch.
How is it a worse version of Overwatch?Spoiler[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn7HZsr_rLQ&[/youtube][close]
Well, alot of what he says Paladins does well is subjective at best.
I actually hated the cards system in Paladins, and I disliked the items even more.
Character progression like that is just not needed in a game like that in my opinion. It adds needless complexity and forces you to specialize more. It turns the game more into a MOBA with skillshots. If I wanted that, I would just go play Hi-Rez's other game, SMITE.
I much prefer Overwatch's way of ditching character progression and specialization of being able to switch out mid match. He talked about how "If you are character X in Overwatch, you can only do X thing". That is true, but the difference between Overwatch and Paladins is that I am not locked into that character. Say I want to do Y thing later in the game, I can just switch to Y character.
Not sure if its still the same, but last time I played Paladins the match times were MUCH longer than they were in Overwatch, which I think is an incredibly poor design choice. Games like this are better with intense short matches rather than long drawn out matches, which is why the game feels more like a MOBA.
The point he was really going after is "Despite Overwatch being higher quality, Paladins has made better design choices" which I completely disagree with. i think that not only is Overwatch just generally of a higher quality, it was designed with a better understanding of the game they were trying to create and as such just feels far superior.
Paladins isn't a terrible game, but when you try to compare a F2P title of a only moderately known studio to a P2P title of one of the most legendary studios in all of gaming, its only natural that it can't compete. So I say if you can't afford Overwatch, Paladins is not a bad game to get a feel of the genre with. However when comparing the two, Overwatch is almost universally better.
But what you are saying makes Overwatch better is literally all opinion based. How can you say Overwatch is universally better when in reality the games are extremely similar and the mechanics and performance of BOTH games are very smooth and well polished. Paladins offers a more in depth take on the genre while Overwatch seems to me like a more basic FPS with less depth overall.
My point is the only thing that really separates the games are personal little tweaks and some minor but substantial differences. I think both are good games but to say paladins is a worse version just is not true and isn't giving the game the props it deserves. In my opinion people shouldn't hate on the opposite of the one they like they should just say i prefer BLANK for BLANK reasons. Because i believe both games have unique traits and experiences to offer and both are very high quality games.
Also how long has it been since you played Paladins? The game has progressed a TON from what i can tell.
Overwatch is:
-More well balanced
-Has better, more original character design. You can argue Paladins was in development first, but characters from Overwatch seem to have their kits magically appear in Paladins not too long after.
-Better sound quality, graphics, and match pacing.
-More well designed with a better understanding of the genre.
-Paladins has more depth, true, but depth does not necessarily make for a better game. If depth is your thing, play SMITE. Its basically a better version of Paladins. Why? Because Paladins is trying to be a MOBA, not an FPS, and its a mediocre MOBA. All of the features that are "unique" to it are basically ripped from MOBAs. Its Card system was basically already done in HotS, Items are from DOTA, and the draft system for ranked is a standard in all MOBAs. If I wanted all that, I would just go play SMITE as its by the same studio and is just better in every way.
-All in all, Paladins literally does nothing better than Overwatch.To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.
For it to be a shitty version of Paladins it would have to be shitty in the first place. Stop being in denial. Overwatch is just better.
Not saying Paladins is a shitty game, but its just a worse version of Overwatch.
Not shitting on Paladins. Its not a bad thing to be worse than Overwatch. Most of what I say isn't even an opinion.
Name one thing Paladins does better than Overwatch.
Both overwatch and paladins suck
Both overwatch and paladins suck
Not shitting on Paladins. Its not a bad thing to be worse than Overwatch. Most of what I say isn't even an opinion.
Name one thing Paladins does better than Overwatch.
-More well balanced /Paladins is in beta and the balance of champions is quite good at the moment.
-Has better, more original character design. You can argue Paladins was in development first, but characters from Overwatch seem to have their kits magically appear in Paladins not too long after. /I like the look of the paladins characters more then the overwatch ones. Literally completely opinion
-Better sound quality, graphics, and match pacing. /True about the sound and graphics but the match pacing is perfect in paladins so not sure what you are referencing. Or if you played payload casual instead of the siege competitive?
-More well designed with a better understanding of the genre. /Not sure where you are drawing this conclusion? I think if anything Overwatch doesnt understand the genre as their game is almost a pure FPS.
-Paladins has more depth, true, but depth does not necessarily make for a better game. If depth is your thing, play SMITE. Its basically a better version of Paladins. Why? Because Paladins is trying to be a MOBA, not an FPS, and its a mediocre MOBA. All of the features that are "unique" to it are basically ripped from MOBAs. Its Card system was basically already done in HotS, Items are from DOTA, and the draft system for ranked is a standard in all MOBAs. If I wanted all that, I would just go play SMITE as its by the same studio and is just better in every way. /Smite is a top down Action MOBA with ZERO FPS influence so to compare it to Paladins is RETARDED. Paladins requires skill to hit your shots but also incorporates the tactics and depth of the card loadouts and the mid-match items. And you can say its ripped but literally the entire basis for Overwatch was ripped from TF2 and Paladins.
Both overwatch and paladins suck
Both overwatch and paladins suck
This tbh. I never played Overwatch or Paladins as I know I will get bored in seconds.
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.Overwatch is a more shitty version of Paladins, yet more popular.. aight
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.Overwatch is a more shitty version of Paladins, yet more popular.. aight
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.Overwatch is a more shitty version of Paladins, yet more popular.. aight
Yes because popularity determines quality. ::) You probably think WoW is the best mmorpg still right?
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.Overwatch is a more shitty version of Paladins, yet more popular.. aight
Yes because popularity determines quality. ::) You probably think WoW is the best mmorpg still right?
It basically is.
Most of its competition has made some horrible design choices. ArchAge and Black Desert Online COULD be better...but they went P2W.
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.Overwatch is a more shitty version of Paladins, yet more popular.. aight
Yes because popularity determines quality. ::) You probably think WoW is the best mmorpg still right?
It basically is.
Most of its competition has made some horrible design choices. ArchAge and Black Desert Online COULD be better...but they went P2W.
ArchAge is SHITTING on WoW and so is Aion and many more.
And ArchAge was not pay2win you could just get the shit you needed in game to pay for your patron status. I am max level and completely geared and i only payed cash for patron ONE time when the game literally first came out and i got a founder pack.
To bad Paladins was in development first. So Overwatch is actually just a shitty version of paladins. I can tell alot of tard fanboys around these parts. Go suck blizzards dick more lol.Overwatch is a more shitty version of Paladins, yet more popular.. aight
Yes because popularity determines quality. ::) You probably think WoW is the best mmorpg still right?
It basically is.
Most of its competition has made some horrible design choices. ArchAge and Black Desert Online COULD be better...but they went P2W.
ArchAge is SHITTING on WoW and so is Aion and many more.
And ArchAge was not pay2win you could just get the shit you needed in game to pay for your patron status. I am max level and completely geared and i only payed cash for patron ONE time when the game literally first came out and i got a founder pack.
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At first I thought ArchAge had the worst release of any MMORPG. Then it managed to somehow outdo itself with the release of ArchAge 3.0. I was actually looking forward to playing it, but at first they delayed the launch a few hours. Then a day. Then another day. Making people wait hours and hours for updates just to say "Fuck it, we are done for the day. We will do it tommorrow". THEN they randomly decided "Hey, we can't get one fucking server working, lets try and get TWO fucking servers!" and they delayed it even further. THEN they had 8+ Hour que times for BOTH SERVERS for a fucking WEEK because they don't know how to increase server capacity.
Also saying ArchAge is not Pay2Win is silly. You could basically pay money for the best gear in the game and become a raid boss instantly. Attainable without money? Sure. If you wanna grind for months on end for it, assuming the people who havent already paid money for it have not locked down Leviathan and pirated the fuck out of your trade routes. Also the labor system is fucking retarded, and you aren't gonna get anywhere without patron.
Meanwhile WoW had best expansion launch since WotLK, and subs are returning to it left and right. Legion is probably equally well received as WotLK was back in the day.
ArchAge better than WoW? Don't make me fucking giggle mate. ArchAge isn't even in the same league. Please do continue getting fucked by Trion.
Actually yes i do like WoW <3<3
And yes i think its by far the best MMO :P
Sorry that the truth hurts.Actually yes i do like WoW <3<3
And yes i think its by far the best MMO :P
I rest my case, Blizzard fangays! :P
Just a shit overwatch.
I enjoy Mount&Blade, but its a crappy game in eyes of most gamers.its more like saying "Chivalry is better than M&B"
Just a shit overwatch.
Quick, everyone shit-talk paladins until Marceaux gets unmutedJust a shit overwatch.
Details, sound, everything in the game is satisfying enough.
I wouldn't say one or the other game is better, there are only two (known at least) of this genre/style, both have theirs pros and cons and both have theirs unique features.
Despite the hate of all the illiterate blizzard fanboys the game is good and does the job very well.
Hi rez is behind some good titles and this is yet another one.
Details, sound, everything in the game is satisfying enough.
I wouldn't say one or the other game is better, there are only two (known at least) of this genre/style, both have theirs pros and cons and both have theirs unique features.
Despite the hate of all the illiterate blizzard fanboys the game is good and does the job very well.
Hi rez is behind some good titles and this is yet another one.
Hi-Rez WAS behind some good titles
Then they took them out back and put a bullet in them.
I used to fucking love SMITE. Even though they didn't entirely really understand balance and perpetually fucked it with each new patch, and especially with each new god released. That was until they decided that they needed to try to emulate league of legends summoner spells and fucking destroyed the game.
Quick, everyone shit-talk paladins until Marceaux gets unmutedJust a shit overwatch.
Got my first penta as Lex today, mans a beast.
Torvald is broken af, literally never dies
They just need to make Torvald have less health/shield health, wayyy too much HP/shield that he can just regenerate over and over, and yeah Ash seems like a CC machine,Got my first penta as Lex today, mans a beast.
Torvald is broken af, literally never dies
Lex OP, and I agree torvald is for sure one of the hardest tanks to deal with IMO. The new tank Ash seems nuts also.
They just need to make Torvald have less health/shield health, wayyy too much HP/shield that he can just regenerate over and over, and yeah Ash seems like a CC machine,Got my first penta as Lex today, mans a beast.
Torvald is broken af, literally never dies
Lex OP, and I agree torvald is for sure one of the hardest tanks to deal with IMO. The new tank Ash seems nuts also.
I've been really itching to get into competitive but the game wants you to get 12 champions at lvl 4 mastery, seems a bit ridiculous, you want me to get half of your entire roster to lvl 4 Hi-Rez? Cmon scoob.
Also how is Pip your main? He is by far one of the weakest champions I have seen so far in this game. He has a shitty kit with the potion bit, and his left click is average. The only thing I see about him that's good is his tiny design and mobility.
Oh alright, 12 seems a little excessive imo,They just need to make Torvald have less health/shield health, wayyy too much HP/shield that he can just regenerate over and over, and yeah Ash seems like a CC machine,Got my first penta as Lex today, mans a beast.
Torvald is broken af, literally never dies
Lex OP, and I agree torvald is for sure one of the hardest tanks to deal with IMO. The new tank Ash seems nuts also.
I've been really itching to get into competitive but the game wants you to get 12 champions at lvl 4 mastery, seems a bit ridiculous, you want me to get half of your entire roster to lvl 4 Hi-Rez? Cmon scoob.
Also how is Pip your main? He is by far one of the weakest champions I have seen so far in this game. He has a shitty kit with the potion bit, and his left click is average. The only thing I see about him that's good is his tiny design and mobility.
He's a god man. I play him as a DMG/Flank and his CC is good. His right and left click are an amazing combo. I can solo pretty much every hero with ease usually except torvald and good maevs. I almost have master rank also... But the grind is real when you get SA noob teammates half the time.
And they have you get 12 to lvl 4 so that you can play comp with a variety of hero's and not be a noob if your main gets chosen. As comp doesn't allow duplicate hero's.
Oh alright, 12 seems a little excessive imo,They just need to make Torvald have less health/shield health, wayyy too much HP/shield that he can just regenerate over and over, and yeah Ash seems like a CC machine,Got my first penta as Lex today, mans a beast.
Torvald is broken af, literally never dies
Lex OP, and I agree torvald is for sure one of the hardest tanks to deal with IMO. The new tank Ash seems nuts also.
I've been really itching to get into competitive but the game wants you to get 12 champions at lvl 4 mastery, seems a bit ridiculous, you want me to get half of your entire roster to lvl 4 Hi-Rez? Cmon scoob.
Also how is Pip your main? He is by far one of the weakest champions I have seen so far in this game. He has a shitty kit with the potion bit, and his left click is average. The only thing I see about him that's good is his tiny design and mobility.
He's a god man. I play him as a DMG/Flank and his CC is good. His right and left click are an amazing combo. I can solo pretty much every hero with ease usually except torvald and good maevs. I almost have master rank also... But the grind is real when you get SA noob teammates half the time.
And they have you get 12 to lvl 4 so that you can play comp with a variety of hero's and not be a noob if your main gets chosen. As comp doesn't allow duplicate hero's.
and playing Pip as dmg/flank damn haha, I'll have to try it out sometime, I've been enjoying playing Androxxus, Lex, Cassie, Bomb King atm, and Torvald if I want a quick win. A good Bomb King can be the best hero in the game imo.
marc i think you take this game too seriously theres not even that many cuties in it
Overwatch rip off.
Man Pip is a beast, been playing him as a dmg and its pretty fun, he gets so much lifesteal with the acumen card and life rip item in game
Overwatch rip off.
You're just a rip off your parents.
Yeah usually I'll favor wrecker if they have anybody with shields.Man Pip is a beast, been playing him as a dmg and its pretty fun, he gets so much lifesteal with the acumen card and life rip item in game
Woo!! Glad you like like him man, Pip is one of the best for damage don't let noobs try to tell you otherwise. I always hear someone complain when I tell them I'm playing damage and not healer with Pip. And yes the life rip items are perfect for Pip. That and deft hands. ;D
Playing a lot of competitive now and I'm up to 4k elo currently. :P
Playing a lot of competitive now and I'm up to 4k elo currently. :P
Nice! Any Diamonds+ yet? Who is ur main?
m8 they just ripped the ranked system straight from league LMAOand starcraft 2 and rocket league, etc.
now that they ditched ELO I should probably go and give the new ranked a go, I got really into the game for a bit there and I kinda haven't played in a while unfortunately.
aye if it aint broke dont fix it ayem8 they just ripped the ranked system straight from league LMAOand starcraft 2 and rocket league, etc.
now that they ditched ELO I should probably go and give the new ranked a go, I got really into the game for a bit there and I kinda haven't played in a while unfortunately.