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Re: M. Points | EU updated | 27.04 | Team rankings
« Reply #3795 on: May 08, 2018, 05:18:44 pm »
No theres been a tourney each week for the last 5 weeks lol

Your logic is flawed though, "is it hard to come a few times a month" well if we attend 2/4 tourneys in the last 5 weeks, then we still loose half of the points we made for 1 of our Bronze placements

Actually because it stacks, if we attended the first 2, then missed the last 2, then we loose more than half lmao
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Knightmare is from Albania, no?
Sorry, I can't accept this team.

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« Reply #3796 on: May 08, 2018, 05:23:55 pm »
And it's okay. If you missed 2 tournaments then how can we expect you to play same or even better as example. That's how all the ratings work. You need to defend your place.
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« Reply #3797 on: May 08, 2018, 05:36:55 pm »
I like the addition of team rankings will be nice to throw chimpz off the 1st place

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« Reply #3798 on: May 08, 2018, 05:40:24 pm »
Iceland 7-3'd chimpz, got to 2nd place but we aren't allowed on the list FeelsBadMan
Knightmare is from Albania, no?
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« Reply #3799 on: May 08, 2018, 05:45:04 pm »

@KOBZIK | Yes man, so how can you identify "strong" and "weak" teams? Because of winning against them you will get different amount of points as you said. It is still biased if you will call some new Freddie's team as example - strong.
?????

here is an example of last Dust tournament with your winning points + elo.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dWbGHcd0OAOzs2lAy1Mg5ZiqhimclCJvdicPAMYpC3c/edit?usp=sharing

There is a formula that calculates the amount of losing and winning point. Only one value is biased - it's the Tournament Koefcient that represent importance and has minor effect on the result.
AoPW =(100-(WOR-LOR))/10 - for winner
AoPL=-(100-(WOR-LOR))/20 - for loser

AoPW - amount of Points for Winner
AoPL - amount of Points for Loser
WOR - Winner old rating
LOR - Loser old rating

And than the result:
R = AoP*K + OR

K - Tournament coefficient

Edit: link was broken
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« Reply #3800 on: May 08, 2018, 05:46:03 pm »
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« Reply #3801 on: May 08, 2018, 05:46:25 pm »
Is who you actually lose to considered in the list? Brackets can be cruel
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« Reply #3803 on: May 08, 2018, 05:51:02 pm »
Hard to analyse accurate team ratings when the brackets are always biased/unfair in some manner with some teams having easy brackets one tournament and hard the next. Also the fact some teams don't even play in every tournament and the fact the teams player base changes often.

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« Reply #3804 on: May 08, 2018, 05:55:29 pm »
Hard to analyse accurate team ratings when the brackets are always biased/unfair in some manner with some teams having easy brackets one tournament and hard the next. Also the fact some teams don't even play in every tournament and the fact the teams player base changes often.
No its not. Having easy barkets one tournament and hard the next is a common thing even in CS:GO but the HLTV rating is accurate.
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« Reply #3805 on: May 08, 2018, 06:06:54 pm »
I don't see any adjustments for that here

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« Reply #3806 on: May 08, 2018, 06:08:53 pm »
more listssssssssss

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« Reply #3807 on: May 08, 2018, 06:13:25 pm »
I don't see any adjustments for that here
My point is that the difficulty of the barckets doesn't count in any possible rating
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« Reply #3808 on: May 08, 2018, 06:28:21 pm »
im not even cpt lel

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« Reply #3809 on: May 09, 2018, 02:28:38 am »
https://youtu.be/W3fW8XS1VaQ?t=2m29s <<< This is Why ChimpZ is and WAS top1
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