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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5055 on: September 21, 2019, 04:47:56 pm »
Please explain HOW not spending as much as the USA on military puts YOU at risk of an invasion

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« Reply #5056 on: September 21, 2019, 05:57:36 pm »
Please explain HOW not spending as much as the USA on military puts YOU at risk of an invasion
I was speaking hypothetically, as in getting rid of the ENTIRE military (and not a portion of it) budget wouldn't fulfill Bernie's plan by even 25%. Also, contrary to popular American-Nationalistic belief, this country is full of gun-toting morons who would run away before the first shot is even fired. Sure, the logistics of an invasion would be the biggest issue, and some would put up a fight, but not nearly enough to win. A big juicy country with plenty of resources and no standing military is easy pickings. We wouldn't stand a chance. Many, many people want this country reduced to nothing but a fleeting memory of a bygone era.

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« Reply #5057 on: September 21, 2019, 06:25:34 pm »
I believe there would be a lot more tax policies to attempt to cover that sum, winters.

The deficit we’re taking in atm is putting us closer to that dreaded ww2 national debt

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« Reply #5058 on: September 21, 2019, 07:17:16 pm »
I believe there would be a lot more tax policies to attempt to cover that sum, winters.

The deficit we’re taking in atm is putting us closer to that dreaded ww2 national debt
I understand that, but it is assuming that the Democrats actually hold on to power for longer than 4 terms. If they lose any of the major branches decisively for even a single term, they are going to get set back. The Republicans aren't going to raise shit.

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« Reply #5059 on: September 21, 2019, 07:38:02 pm »
I believe there would be a lot more tax policies to attempt to cover that sum, winters.

The deficit we’re taking in atm is putting us closer to that dreaded ww2 national debt
I understand that, but it is assuming that the Democrats actually hold on to power for longer than 4 terms. If they lose any of the major branches decisively for even a single term, they are going to get set back. The Republicans aren't going to raise shit.

I agree, I think trump will get reelected anyway though

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5060 on: September 22, 2019, 07:40:44 pm »
It's worth noting that what Bernie Sanders is saying he will do is more akin to ideal circumstances than realistic goals. Politicians in every country generally have a door understanding of limitations (both economic, political, social and constitutional) that restrict their ideal policy implementation. The U.S system is built on checks on power and so its very difficult for any President (no matter how moderate) to accomplish their policy goals regardless for controversy.

I'd say Bernie is making big claims due to his wish to change the course of Left-Wing politics in the U.S. Realistically he can only accomplish a moderate amount of reform, but selling it on a socialist basis will allow for him to push forward these ideas with greater ease as he'll at the very least have a mandate with which to tackle these issues, if not the economic or political ability.

It's kinda like how Donald Trump said he was going to tear up NAFTA until he realized (upon entering Washington) that NAFTA plays a vital role in the U.S's trading power with Canada. Or how he thought Mexico was going to pay for the border wall due to a trade deficit (which makes zero sense for a multitude of reasons.

As for the comments with regards to the U.S military: the U.S needs to maintain its military no matter what, the U.S holds a hegemony and without the means to back it up would open up the world to another rising power (China) to start exerting hostile influences on other nations.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5061 on: October 01, 2019, 04:58:02 am »
why people want to put the orange man in peach???

orange bad peach good???





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« Reply #5062 on: October 01, 2019, 06:11:29 am »
It's evident that the Senate wouldn't do shit even if he was guilty. Positive change is impossible, and it's time the American people accepted that.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5063 on: October 02, 2019, 08:24:45 pm »
Bernie with serious health problems. I wonder what this means for his campaign or if he'll recover
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« Reply #5064 on: October 02, 2019, 09:51:06 pm »
Bernie with serious health problems. I wonder what this means for his campaign or if he'll recover
It's going to seriously damage the voter optics on his campaign. Think about it, an 80 year old man recovering from fucking heart surgery wanting to lead the country. Bless Bernie but this seriously might have just screwed him over. Establishment Democrats and Warren/Biden astroturfers will relentlessly push this story until Super Tuesday, all the while Republicans shove it in their faces come election day and beyond.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5065 on: October 03, 2019, 12:58:45 am »
lol, mans gonna get assassinated by a draft in the oval office

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5066 on: October 03, 2019, 01:47:36 am »
Bernie and Biden both have the age/health concerns.   Both will be in their 80s by the time their first term is over should they be elected.  For many people, there is a concern they may die in office, which only gets greater in their second term.(bernie would be 87? by the time his 2nd term would be over)  it is always fascinating seeing how much the president ages over their term(s) in office.

Warren and Trump would both be in their 70s when they finish their 2nd terms.   

IDK about the other candidates, but i believe they are all younger than the above.

Carter is still around and active even at his of 95? so who knows what will happen to bernies campaign.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5067 on: October 03, 2019, 01:51:44 am »
carter should run

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5068 on: October 04, 2019, 04:09:19 pm »
Carter is still around and active even at his of 95? so who knows what will happen to bernies campaign.
To be fair, Carter is someone who lives a nice life and actually helps people himself unlike most politicians.

I feel like eventually America will pass term limits and age limits for public office, but it will probably take another generation for that to happen. There is no way that the bigwigs would allow it now.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5069 on: October 04, 2019, 04:53:44 pm »
It's evident that the Senate wouldn't do shit even if he was guilty. Positive change is impossible, and it's time the American people accepted that.
Congress really wasn't designed to make sweeping policy changes for the whole of the population of the country except in cases of massive unanimity. This polarizing gridlock is a consequence of centralizing power in institutions that were never meant to have those powers. If a more central authority is desired, either by the peoples here or the government, then a new system is required. People seem content to try and fit a square peg through a round hole, and then get upset when it doesn't go through - shouldn't be surprising, the voting public has always only cared for its own largess and aggrandizement.
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