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Title: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 03, 2023, 07:06:22 pm
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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 03, 2023, 07:09:52 pm
I'd like to hear your opinion about making a rule that nations that fight NA must also play a match on their server, I know it's been discussed before and people are actually against it for reasons that are justified and sometimes not (let's face it, most people just don't feel like playing with 100+ ping and that's normal), I'd like to bring this discussion back one more time and weigh the pros and cons so we can find a common ground, I'm personally in favour of this rule, although my opinion can change since there's many things to discuss, such as the fact that the NA have more experience on EU servers than the other way around, and this would give them a definite advantage.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 03, 2023, 08:18:02 pm
home and away was used in Native and created massive home ground stomps where the winning team would only win by 1 round. NA beat titans Poland because of 1 round they won on away, it's a terrible idea to potentially have great EU teams knocked out due to NA winning on home. I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground, there's no sense of skill playing on that ping. The Nations Cup final was NA vs France and it lasted like 2 hours because each team kept winning 3 - 0 on home until France finally got 1 round on away, was a boring watch.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 03, 2023, 08:21:25 pm
home and away was used in Native and created massive home ground stomps where the winning team would only win by 1 round. NA beat titans Poland because of 1 round they won on away, it's a terrible idea to potentially have great EU teams knocked out due to NA winning on home. I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground, there's no sense of skill playing on that ping.
You sound scared
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 03, 2023, 08:22:02 pm
home and away was used in Native and created massive home ground stomps where the winning team would only win by 1 round. NA beat titans Poland because of 1 round they won on away, it's a terrible idea to potentially have great EU teams knocked out due to NA winning on home. I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground, there's no sense of skill playing on that ping.
You sound scared

I'd be having better ping than the majority of Europe :^)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 03, 2023, 08:24:08 pm
home and away was used in Native and created massive home ground stomps where the winning team would only win by 1 round. NA beat titans Poland because of 1 round they won on away, it's a terrible idea to potentially have great EU teams knocked out due to NA winning on home. I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground, there's no sense of skill playing on that ping.
You sound scared

I'd be having better ping than the majority of Europe :^)
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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Plushka on April 03, 2023, 09:17:41 pm
I'd like to hear your opinion about making a rule that nations that fight NA must also play a match on their server, I know it's been discussed before and people are actually against it for reasons that are justified and sometimes not (let's face it, most people just don't feel like playing with 100+ ping and that's normal), I'd like to bring this discussion back one more time and weigh the pros and cons so we can find a common ground, I'm personally in favour of this rule, although my opinion can change since there's many things to discuss, such as the fact that the NA have more experience on EU servers than the other way around, and this would give them a definite advantage.
how do you want to arrange this? u think its gonna work like on native but u cant split rounds for sets and maps. Also problem with pings for cis and turkish players, if NA players playing with 90-120 pings on EU servers, players from eastern Europe will have 170 pings on NA servers. If u want arrange this can we play the same shit on Istanbul, Moscow and Kiev servers?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: [Stryker] on April 03, 2023, 09:52:08 pm
I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground
HiReaper gets 95 ping on Chicago servers so idk where this is coming from, maybe you played on a Dallas or California server?
The NA servers can probably be moved to New York where UK players will get ~70-80 ping
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 03, 2023, 09:56:42 pm
home and away was used in Native and created massive home ground stomps where the winning team would only win by 1 round. NA beat titans Poland because of 1 round they won on away
no, NA won the set 3-1 against Poland on away, they didn't win by 1 round
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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 03, 2023, 11:48:59 pm
I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground
HiReaper gets 95 ping on Chicago servers so idk where this is coming from, maybe you played on a Dallas or California server?
The NA servers can probably be moved to New York where UK players will get ~70-80 ping
From my latest experience I get a 120 - 140 ping on a florida server, don't know how it is looking in NA but my internet is considered to be on of the better ones in germany

Anyway, from my pov if you allow NA server, which would be totally right and fair, you have to probably get CIA, TUR and maybe even chinese (Plamper still alive?) server to make it fair for everyone. And I could imagine that this would be a lot of hard work for you guys, besides people probably still will flame you guys for some reason that it is not fair for them
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 03, 2023, 11:50:37 pm
well CIS and TUR problem could just be fixed with a GER server, some ppl will cry about 20 ping instead of 10 tho


Also tbh id be surprised if we see a turkish team anyways
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 03, 2023, 11:56:35 pm
well CIS and TUR problem could just be fixed with a GER server, some ppl will cry about 20 ping instead of 10 tho


Also tbh id be surprised if we see a turkish team anyways
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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 03, 2023, 11:58:24 pm
I don't think we need servers for CIS, there is a difference between 60 ping and 100, we shouldn't exagerate, but I understand the point
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Desant on April 04, 2023, 12:24:57 am
I don't think we need servers for CIS, there is a difference between 60 ping and 100, we shouldn't exagerate, but I understand the point
Is there a difference between ping 10 and 20?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Desant on April 04, 2023, 12:32:40 am
That is, if you do a fair and just tournament for all, then let Ukraine play on German servers. Of course not against all teams, for example Spain, Ireland, etc. we can play and on the French server against them
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 04, 2023, 12:39:50 am
Bro u guys literally cried about Ping being 20-30 instead of 10 and now you say CIS doesnt matter? Which literally goes from 60-80 to 40

If ping doesnt matter then just play on German servers  ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Kore on April 04, 2023, 12:42:10 am
If you do home away then any team east of Poland should play NA on German/French servers only, no need to over complicate it
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 04, 2023, 12:46:12 am
If you do home away then any team east of Poland should play NA on German/French servers only, no need to over complicate it

Yea thats what I said, just use GER Servers for these teams, like nobody has any valid reason to complain
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 04, 2023, 12:58:38 am
Bro u guys literally cried about Ping being 20-30 instead of 10 and now you say CIS doesnt matter? Which literally goes from 60-80 to 40

If ping doesnt matter then just play on German servers  ::)
What? We never cried about having 20 or 30 pings except prolly LeBrave, we complained about the delay on the server during the final, i dont mind at all playing in a GER server, for me i dont notice the difference from 10-50 ping lol legit maybe its just me.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Desant on April 04, 2023, 01:00:22 am
If you do home away then any team east of Poland should play NA on German/French servers only, no need to over complicate it
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: [Stryker] on April 04, 2023, 01:00:23 am
From my latest experience I get a 120 - 140 ping on a florida server, don't know how it is looking in NA but my internet is considered to be on of the better ones in germany
NYC would be better than Florida trust
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 04, 2023, 01:06:07 am
I'm getting 3 german servers for nwwc
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Plushka on April 04, 2023, 01:08:50 am
If you do home away then any team east of Poland should play NA on German/French servers only, no need to over complicate it
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 04, 2023, 01:09:03 am
I don't think we need servers for CIS, there is a difference between 60 ping and 100, we shouldn't exagerate, but I understand the point
Is there a difference between ping 10 and 20?
No there is none from my experience, I don't know where it comes from this false idea that French poeple absolutely want to have 5 ping to play, it probably comes from 2017/2018 with Drake and his circus but I never personally complained to have 25-30 ping so far lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Kore on April 04, 2023, 04:07:25 am
Answers to interesting questions.
1. "Will there be a second league ?"
Answer : Yes, there probably will be, if there are enough countries. The tournament organizers are thinking about it, and may even organize it, if the necessary number of teams is available and if it is necessary.
2. "How will the election of a captain take place?
Answer: if there is more than one application for a captain of the selected country, then the players that played in the previous year for this country will have to vote for the captain of their national team. The choice and the decision as to who will be the captain of the national team is left to the participants of the team through voting.
3. "What is the maximum number of players that can be registered for a country?
Answer : As last year, nine or ten players per country would be the maximum number of players allowed.
4. "Is it possible to play for another country?"
Answer : There is no such possibility, as long as you already played for your country last year. For example : the player with the nickname Red played for the French team last year, so he will not be able to play for another national team.
5."Why are there so few team and player applications ?
Answer: The organising team needs more time to find and register players for the tournament. We need to wait a little longer. In addition, with too few teams - the tournament may be postponed until September.

bodya doing Q&A with himself, whilst having nothing to do with this years NWWC

he is him
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: ~NickCole~ on April 04, 2023, 04:07:47 am
Answers to interesting questions.
1. "Will there be a second league ?"
Answer : Yes, there probably will be, if there are enough countries. The tournament organizers are thinking about it, and may even organize it, if the necessary number of teams is available and if it is necessary.
2. "How will the election of a captain take place?
Answer: if there is more than one application for a captain of the selected country, then the players that played in the previous year for this country will have to vote for the captain of their national team. The choice and the decision as to who will be the captain of the national team is left to the participants of the team through voting.
3. "What is the maximum number of players that can be registered for a country?
Answer : As last year, nine or ten players per country would be the maximum number of players allowed.
4. "Is it possible to play for another country?"
Answer : There is no such possibility, as long as you already played for your country last year. For example : the player with the nickname Red played for the French team last year, so he will not be able to play for another national team.
5."Why are there so few team and player applications ?
Answer: The organising team needs more time to find and register players for the tournament. We need to wait a little longer. In addition, with too few teams - the tournament may be postponed until September.

bodya doing Q&A with himself, whilst having nothing to do with this years NWWC

he is him
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 04, 2023, 04:07:57 am
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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 04, 2023, 04:15:57 am
Answers to interesting questions.
1. "Will there be a second league ?"
Answer : Yes, there probably will be, if there are enough countries. The tournament organizers are thinking about it, and may even organize it, if the necessary number of teams is available and if it is necessary.
2. "How will the election of a captain take place?
Answer: if there is more than one application for a captain of the selected country, then the players that played in the previous year for this country will have to vote for the captain of their national team. The choice and the decision as to who will be the captain of the national team is left to the participants of the team through voting.
3. "What is the maximum number of players that can be registered for a country?
Answer : As last year, nine or ten players per country would be the maximum number of players allowed.
4. "Is it possible to play for another country?"
Answer : There is no such possibility, as long as you already played for your country last year. For example : the player with the nickname Red played for the French team last year, so he will not be able to play for another national team.
5."Why are there so few team and player applications ?
Answer: The organising team needs more time to find and register players for the tournament. We need to wait a little longer. In addition, with too few teams - the tournament may be postponed until September.

bodya doing Q&A with himself, whilst having nothing to do with this years NWWC

he is him
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 04, 2023, 07:17:51 am
Answers to interesting questions.
1. "Will there be a second league ?"
Answer : Yes, there probably will be, if there are enough countries. The tournament organizers are thinking about it, and may even organize it, if the necessary number of teams is available and if it is necessary.
2. "How will the election of a captain take place?
Answer: if there is more than one application for a captain of the selected country, then the players that played in the previous year for this country will have to vote for the captain of their national team. The choice and the decision as to who will be the captain of the national team is left to the participants of the team through voting.
3. "What is the maximum number of players that can be registered for a country?
Answer : As last year, nine or ten players per country would be the maximum number of players allowed.
4. "Is it possible to play for another country?"
Answer : There is no such possibility, as long as you already played for your country last year. For example : the player with the nickname Red played for the French team last year, so he will not be able to play for another national team.
5."Why are there so few team and player applications ?
Answer: The organising team needs more time to find and register players for the tournament. We need to wait a little longer. In addition, with too few teams - the tournament may be postponed until September.

bodya doing Q&A with himself, whilst having nothing to do with this years NWWC

he is him
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Tomppa on April 04, 2023, 09:35:37 am

I left the answers here in case anyone else is curious or interested.

Just left them here in case anyone is interested or curious.

To avoid writing twice and repeating myself, I wrote them here.

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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on April 04, 2023, 09:38:51 am
I mean CIS don’t got hes solo community not like the Turkish one they always played with eu regiment but a time TR community was strong enough to play solo on Turkish server with 10-15 Ping like French in their server. What about try to play a 2 games a week and what server you want like in football with visitor team ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: DayBoul on April 04, 2023, 11:46:46 am
home and away was used in Native and created massive home ground stomps where the winning team would only win by 1 round. NA beat titans Poland because of 1 round they won on away, it's a terrible idea to potentially have great EU teams knocked out due to NA winning on home. I also don't want to hear this 'even ground' bullshit because playing with 150ping isn't even ground, there's no sense of skill playing on that ping. The Nations Cup final was NA vs France and it lasted like 2 hours because each team kept winning 3 - 0 on home until France finally got 1 round on away, was a boring watch.
first and hopefully last time i'll say this : FIETTA IS CORRECT.

The 2 main reasons ppl play this game is either fun or competition and home-and-away negates both. At that ping, everything you do becomes a coin toss and it will just be boring for all parties involved so i dont see why you would bother.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 04, 2023, 01:04:53 pm
Ye, it was a suggestion, but it most likely wont be the case haha
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on April 04, 2023, 01:13:52 pm
And You can’t Says native match and nw gf is the same it’s more closer than Native
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: [Stryker] on April 04, 2023, 04:15:23 pm
first and hopefully last time i'll say this : FIETTA IS CORRECT.

The 2 main reasons ppl play this game is either fun or competition and home-and-away negates both. At that ping, everything you do becomes a coin toss and it will just be boring for all parties involved so i dont see why you would bother.
If Reaper from the UK can get a regular 96 ping on Chicago with the possibility of the server getting moved to NYC which is 782km closer to London then imo the 150 ping argument is null

Edit: If you want to keep the servers EU but make it the most fair to NA force a London server for all NA involved matches since that’s closer than the French ones I think.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 04, 2023, 04:31:25 pm
anlaki NA guess ppl are scared to lose

as fair chances dont seem as competetive as 1 match with 10 ping vs 100 and we play it for competition ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 04, 2023, 04:39:18 pm
first and hopefully last time i'll say this : FIETTA IS CORRECT.

The 2 main reasons ppl play this game is either fun or competition and home-and-away negates both. At that ping, everything you do becomes a coin toss and it will just be boring for all parties involved so i dont see why you would bother.
If Reaper from the UK can get a regular 96 ping on Chicago with the possibility of the server getting moved to NYC which is 782km closer to London then imo the 150 ping argument is null

Edit: If you want to keep the servers EU but make it the most fair to NA force a London server for all NA involved matches since that’s closer than the French ones I think.

Not everyone lives in the UK

Fighting with 100-150ping isn't a fair chance for either team, it's not interesting seeing a classic 15 - 0 stomp on each home server, so I'd rather penalise NA (one team) if it means we have more competitive EU matches as harsh as that sounds. It's a tournament where the most skilled teams fight it out, 10ping vs 150ping home and away isn't at all showing skill of either side. I'm not interested in seeing another NA final where it's consistent home stomp overtime, boring ass shit, it happened once in Native

@zeyden make a poll
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 04, 2023, 05:19:49 pm
i will only play on AMS servers. @zeyden make poll pls
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: DayBoul on April 04, 2023, 05:50:23 pm
first and hopefully last time i'll say this : FIETTA IS CORRECT.

The 2 main reasons ppl play this game is either fun or competition and home-and-away negates both. At that ping, everything you do becomes a coin toss and it will just be boring for all parties involved so i dont see why you would bother.
If Reaper from the UK can get a regular 96 ping on Chicago with the possibility of the server getting moved to NYC which is 782km closer to London then imo the 150 ping argument is null

Edit: If you want to keep the servers EU but make it the most fair to NA force a London server for all NA involved matches since that’s closer than the French ones I think.
I'd rather penalise NA (one team) if it means we have more competitive EU matches as harsh as that sounds.
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament

anlaki NA guess ppl are scared to lose
you edgelord always say that but we both know that even with equal pings NA wouldnt have a realistic chance at winning anyway lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: [Stryker] on April 04, 2023, 05:58:25 pm
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament
Call it the European cup then lmao
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on April 04, 2023, 05:58:42 pm
first and hopefully last time i'll say this : FIETTA IS CORRECT.

The 2 main reasons ppl play this game is either fun or competition and home-and-away negates both. At that ping, everything you do becomes a coin toss and it will just be boring for all parties involved so i dont see why you would bother.
If Reaper from the UK can get a regular 96 ping on Chicago with the possibility of the server getting moved to NYC which is 782km closer to London then imo the 150 ping argument is null

Edit: If you want to keep the servers EU but make it the most fair to NA force a London server for all NA involved matches since that’s closer than the French ones I think.
I'd rather penalise NA (one team) if it means we have more competitive EU matches as harsh as that sounds.
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament

anlaki NA guess ppl are scared to lose
you edgelord always say that but we both know that even with equal pings NA wouldnt have a realistic chance at winning anyway lol
Napoleonic war *World Cup* ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: DayBoul on April 04, 2023, 06:03:33 pm
and here come all the fucking newgens that dont know lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Skittykiller on April 04, 2023, 06:07:18 pm
I get 80 Ping on most NA servers, only gets me like 1 Sec delay on every stab. I don't see a problem with that
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: The_Joker on April 04, 2023, 06:07:47 pm
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament
Call it the European cup then lmao
go play ur North American Cup then with Canada USA and Mexico hfhf

I get 80 Ping on most NA servers, only gets me like 1 Sec delay on every stab. I don't see a problem with that
bro u wont even play probably so doesnt matter
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Skittykiller on April 04, 2023, 06:16:13 pm
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament
Call it the European cup then lmao
go play ur North American Cup then with Canada USA and Mexico hfhf

I get 80 Ping on most NA servers, only gets me like 1 Sec delay on every stab. I don't see a problem with that
bro u wont even play probably so doesnt matter

who says I won't play?? Maybe I wanna play now when u say I won't play!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: [Stryker] on April 04, 2023, 06:19:20 pm
go play ur North American Cup then with Canada USA and Mexico hfhf
Would if we could ong
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Ri0T on April 04, 2023, 06:19:28 pm
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament
Call it the European cup then lmao
go play ur North American Cup then with Canada USA and Mexico hfhf

I get 80 Ping on most NA servers, only gets me like 1 Sec delay on every stab. I don't see a problem with that
bro u wont even play probably so doesnt matter

who says I won't play?? Maybe I wanna play now when u say I won't play!

Who says u gonna play now u said u wanna play cause he said u wont play?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: HiReaper on April 04, 2023, 06:20:58 pm
Why are people being toxic brainlets?

Stryker’s point on playing London servers(best average ping time for NAs) is the best solution for people playing against the NAs.

Yeah we cant expect people to want to play on NA servers after all the normalisation with french servers etc.

@dayboul Pipe down. Stryker is unironically better than u with 12x ur ping 💀💀
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 04, 2023, 06:33:42 pm
Why are people being toxic brainlets?

Stryker’s point on playing London servers(best average ping time for NAs) is the best solution for people playing against the NAs.

Yeah we cant expect people to want to play on NA servers after all the normalisation with french servers etc.

@dayboul Pipe down. Stryker is unironically better than u with 12x ur ping 💀💀

Best solution is to have an unfair match on both sides to make it 'fair', strange that
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 04, 2023, 06:44:19 pm
@Zeyden you see what I meant, second day and we have our first beef  ::) :-*

IMO, feel free to ignore it if you do not see it that way, there are only two options:

1. Like the last editions, NWWC as the successor of the europa cup with only EU servers (FRA,GER,ENG,NL whatever) and every other nation/continent has to think twice if they really wanna play in such a tournament

OR

2. Reworked NWWC rules, somehow with away and home matches on their own national/regional servers (can't wait to get clapped by Plamper on chinese servers  :-[ )
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: HiReaper on April 04, 2023, 06:45:36 pm
Why are people being toxic brainlets?

Stryker’s point on playing London servers(best average ping time for NAs) is the best solution for people playing against the NAs.

Yeah we cant expect people to want to play on NA servers after all the normalisation with french servers etc.

@dayboul Pipe down. Stryker is unironically better than u with 12x ur ping 💀💀

Best solution is to have an unfair match on both sides to make it 'fair', strange that

Unfair? London servers have a improvement in ping for the NAs and barely an increase for cis players.

No offence to my eastern european fam but if you don’t understand how to exploit 90+ ping players with 40-60 ping then 🥶🥶

This all came from zeydens suggestion for the NA home matches, if people dont want it then fair enough, but a london server really isn’t a big ask.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 04, 2023, 06:46:09 pm
The decision is already made by us, so the conversation can be closed haha. You'll see an announcement about that on one of the threads about this matter but also about something else :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 04, 2023, 06:56:40 pm
The questionable player transfers to national teams presented difficulties for the Moderation team.

We would like to know what you all think about this situation. We see this as a dilemma with two sides: on one hand, we want to make it the most competitive and fair NWWC yet, which forces us to undo many previous poor decisions (which could infuriate some people); on the other hand, if we don't do that, what is your opinion on allowing people to argue their case for a swap?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: DayBoul on April 04, 2023, 07:22:17 pm
@Zeyden you see what I meant, second day and we have our first beef  ::) :-*

IMO, feel free to ignore it if you do not see it that way, there are only two options:

1. Like the last editions, NWWC as the successor of the europa cup with only EU servers (FRA,GER,ENG,NL whatever) and every other nation/continent has to think twice if they really wanna play in such a tournament

OR

2. Reworked NWWC rules, somehow with away and home matches on their own national/regional servers (can't wait to get clapped by Plamper on chinese servers  :-[ )
also known as :

1. having a decent competitive tournament with like 2 irrelevant teams that dont belong here anyway with a ping disadvantage (and that would STILL be given the courtesy of getting the server where they have the lowest ping)

2. have 15-0/0-15 ties all accross the board regardless of the actual skill level of all the teams involved and defeat the entire purpose of the tournament to satisfy a minority of players which by the way we still havent seen a single one of them ask for it on this thread

also i dont think NA or TR ever "thought twice" before signing up so idk what you're refering to

@dayboul Pipe down. Stryker is unironically better than u with 12x ur ping 💀💀
and 1 or 2 weeks of trying would probably be enough to go back to being better than both of you combined lol. Make no mistake newgen scrub, youve reached the okay-tier only because everyone else quit the game
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 04, 2023, 07:43:08 pm
They are used to playing on EU servers and are fine that there's no home-away system, that was just my personal opinion on the matter, however it involves too many subtleties that would cause too many problems like you guys said, things will stay as they are and we will find the best servers depending on who the NA teams are playing against, that's it.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: AchillesTheOne on April 04, 2023, 07:57:26 pm
I don't mind this suggestion.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: HiReaper on April 04, 2023, 08:05:05 pm
@dayboul Pipe down. Stryker is unironically better than u with 12x ur ping 💀💀
and 1 or 2 weeks of trying would probably be enough to go back to being better than both of you combined lol. Make no mistake newgen scrub, youve reached the okay-tier only because everyone else quit the game

no matter how hard you try on tropical paradise, you could never compare to the great strykerop highlights
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MikeyBruh on April 04, 2023, 08:07:23 pm
I think people should remember the usual "NA servers" that we play on are in Chicago which is closer to the middle of our continent. You can compare this to a German server in the EU. If we move the server to New York or Northern Virginia, its much closer to the coast making the ping much closer. Also maybe we can consider a different split such as 12 rounds NA and 18 on an EU server.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on April 05, 2023, 01:54:57 am
I think people should remember the usual "NA servers" that we play on are in Chicago which is closer to the middle of our continent. You can compare this to a German server in the EU. If we move the server to New York or Northern Virginia, its much closer to the coast making the ping much closer. Also maybe we can consider a different split such as 12 rounds NA and 18 on an EU server.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: sidney crosby on April 05, 2023, 02:33:33 am
not to mention NA is basically an honorary guest in what is supposed to be a EUROPEAN tournament
Call it the European cup then lmao
go play ur North American Cup then with Canada USA and Mexico hfhf
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Mac` on April 05, 2023, 04:17:53 am
Alright lads listen up how about this, for any matches involving NA, they can be hosted from Galway Ireland (assuming a god forsaken host can be found in that city) for the closest proximity possible to NA. And I route any incoming EU connections to like turkey and back again to artificially increase the ping, now everyone gets like 90 ping easy dubs no sweat all is fair in love and war lol  ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Horse on April 05, 2023, 04:22:59 am
I think people should remember the usual "NA servers" that we play on are in Chicago which is closer to the middle of our continent. You can compare this to a German server in the EU. If we move the server to New York or Northern Virginia, its much closer to the coast making the ping much closer. Also maybe we can consider a different split such as 12 rounds NA and 18 on an EU server.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: RedFeu on April 05, 2023, 04:39:37 am
What if the winner of the nwwc fight NA biggest stack on east coast servers as amical match ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Kore on April 05, 2023, 05:16:11 am
come on xbox
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on April 05, 2023, 05:26:53 am
It would be interesting if the World Cup, or the World Tournament, were held in a couple of stages.
1. the American, Canadian, Mexican and Brazilian teams would play each other for the title of Americas champion.
2) Separate matches would be organised between the European countries. And the European countries will be fighting for the title of European Champion.
And in the last phase, the champions from Europe and America would compete for the title of "World Champion".
That would have been interesting.

there are 0 canadian mexican and brazilian teams
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 09:04:08 am
The questionable player transfers to national teams presented difficulties for the Moderation team.

We would like to know what you all think about this situation. We see this as a dilemma with two sides: on one hand, we want to make it the most competitive and fair NWWC yet, which forces us to undo many previous poor decisions (which could infuriate some people); on the other hand, if we don't do that, what is your opinion on allowing people to argue their case for a swap?
Close the discussion about NA servers, we already made an agreement about that matter. The one above is relevant now to discuss.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 05, 2023, 09:59:52 am
You shouldn’t force people to change nations and shouldn’t allow to swap back (eg Maskman, Coco, Zenon, Firefly etc)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 10:04:35 am
Its about people that played for a nation without a passport or any sort eligibility because of 2 factors:
Their nation is weak af, so they rather play with a stacked roster to have a higher chance to win;
Or they weren't good enough and want to play for a weaker nation just for the sake to play NWWC.

As Movement said, this is a dilemma for us because undoing all the decisions of the previous hosts can upset some people... But it can make a more fair tourmanent.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 05, 2023, 10:43:58 am
Just use the normal rule that people arent allowed to swap nations like many did in last NWWC, just make them play for the nation they first played for / everyone knows ppl are from there and dont make weird alliances

and dont accept people saying a team is impossible without checking it yourself, cuz it mostly is (hello Spain and Ireland), its just their massive egos that dont want to play with worse players

U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)




Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 10:49:54 am
The problem that the mod team encountered was that each of these bullshit swaps had been approved in previous iterations of NWWC. The hosts essentially agreed to these swaps because they were sick of listening to the complaining all the time.

We will need the community as a whole to either agree on this in order to make the competition this time around as fair as possible. or to allow several people to argue their case for a legitimate swap because they fulfill the requirements for this.

And for this we need your opinion.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 10:51:39 am
U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 05, 2023, 10:57:06 am
U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha

well I understand if ppl dont want to put the effort into it when half of their players are just playing for France for some reason

Imagine half of the good belgians would be french speaking and suddenly every french speaking Belgian just plays for France instead of Belgium, i think you would lose interest in putting a team together aswell as its just frustrating to see
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 05, 2023, 10:59:10 am
DarkTemplar for Austria and not for Germany, bypassing the rules.
When did big DT play for GER in the last years?  ???

U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha
If our "german" national state tournament showed one thing, then that SAU is looking pretty dead (like the last years)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 11:05:11 am
U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha
If our "german" national state tournament showed one thing, then that SAU is looking pretty dead (like the last years)
What about Swiss/AUS, that's possible right? I know Austria is indeed pretty dead...

U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha

well I understand if ppl dont want to put the effort into it when half of their players are just playing for France for some reason

Imagine half of the good belgians would be french speaking and suddenly every french speaking Belgian just plays for France instead of Belgium, i think you would lose interest in putting a team together aswell as its just frustrating to see
Not really tho, even with a bunch of shitters I always will put a team together. Belgium was never good, we had a few moments in 2014, 2017 and 2018 where we had some good performances, but I don't really care if Belgium has a good team or not, I'll always make the effort to get something together.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 11:05:55 am
DarkTemplar for Austria and not for Germany, bypassing the rules.
When did big DT play for GER in the last years?  ???
Please view anything that comes from Bodya with a pinch of salt. But given the circumstances, for instance, DT wishes to play for GER and has an convincing case that supports this. Since most of us will leave after this NWWC, we would prefer to hear all of your opinions before making any decisions that might annoy people or ruin their experience of this last dance.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 11:07:58 am
I don't get it.
Is this the last World Cup?
nwwc 2024 incoming dont worry
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 11:08:59 am
I don't get it.
Is this the last World Cup?
nwwc 2024 incoming dont worry
Yeah, that's what I believed.
And who will do it? Zeyden again?
Let's just finish 2023 first, before making plans for next year haha
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 05, 2023, 11:11:05 am
well we have a german regional tournament where we had to merge SAU with german regions so they can attend and thats a 5v5 tourn

where they still only bring like 3-4 per match xd

in general id know Red, Coco, boboy, (gull but he probs wont attend a single match), DarkTemplar, Esdeath, (lama played for them once aswell)

but i got no clue what u can find in the kk still

and as far as I know 2Lr is dead
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 11:15:37 am
U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha
If our "german" national state tournament showed one thing, then that SAU is looking pretty dead (like the last years)
In our talks we discussed an estimated amount of players, with players included that will have their old swaps reverted, and most teams end up with about 9–10 players who could play for their nation. But the more important issue is whether they would still play considering the team would field some weaker players
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 05, 2023, 11:16:15 am
I mean if their ego is the issue then it sounds like their problem tbh
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 11:17:02 am
I mean if their ego is the issue then it sounds like their problem tbh
with the current state of the game, some teams cant field a team when their players cope with their ego
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 05, 2023, 11:20:02 am
I mean if their ego is the issue then it sounds like their problem tbh
with the current state of the game, some teams cant field a team when their players cope with their ego

Yea but where is the difference between allowing them to play with other teams, as it will have the same result yknow

And if you dont theres a chance they just say fuck it and play anyways
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on April 05, 2023, 11:23:10 am
I don't get it.
Is this the last World Cup?
nwwc 2024 incoming dont worry
I don't believe it.
And who will do it? Zeyden again?
You will do it dw about that  8)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 05, 2023, 11:23:32 am
U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha
If our "german" national state tournament showed one thing, then that SAU is looking pretty dead (like the last years)
What about Swiss/AUS, that's possible right? I know Austria is indeed pretty dead...
Swiss-AUstria is pretty dead in general ^^

For your back ground information, signups looked for SAU not really promising, they couldn't find enough players or even a cpt. In the end, the coalition got "saved" by Stockholm searching desperately for players, them playing together with Baden-Wuerttemberg (german state with around 11 mil people living in it, home state of players like igel wolpi eastwind angel lukasoh fruitocin0 domi etc which all didn't sign up at the start) and last but not least troll applications ^^

Granted, who gives a shit about some random ass german tournament (even worse, hosted by stockholm!) compare to NWWC, but I doubt they get a team together as last year has already shown.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 05, 2023, 11:31:31 am
Its about people that played for a nation without a passport or any sort eligibility because of 2 factors:
Their nation is weak af, so they rather play with a stacked roster to have a higher chance to win;
Or they weren't good enough and want to play for a weaker nation just for the sake to play NWWC.

As Movement said, this is a dilemma for us because undoing all the decisions of the previous hosts can upset some people... But it can make a more fair tourmanent.
People which played last season of NWWC were all eligible to their nations according to rules which were made even before us. The only questionable person was Firefly. We didn’t take in account shitty NWWC with several teams for each nation, cause that was obviously a shit fest.

Saying that as example “Maskman isn’t eligible to play for Spain” is just totally wrong. I saw his Spanish docs. He didn’t play before for Team England (NWWC with multiple teams for each nation doesn’t count, because based on that, almost all SWISS players were playing for France). He was living for 5 years or more in Spain. So he’s fully eligible.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 11:33:31 am
Its about people that played for a nation without a passport or any sort eligibility because of 2 factors:
Their nation is weak af, so they rather play with a stacked roster to have a higher chance to win;
Or they weren't good enough and want to play for a weaker nation just for the sake to play NWWC.

As Movement said, this is a dilemma for us because undoing all the decisions of the previous hosts can upset some people... But it can make a more fair tourmanent.
People which played last season of NWWC were all eligible to their nations according to rules which were made even before us. The only questionable person was Firefly. We didn’t take in account shitty NWWC with several teams for each nation, cause that was obviously a shit fest.

Saying that as example “Maskman isn’t eligible to play for Spain” is just totally wrong. I saw his Spanish docs. He didn’t play before for Team England (NWWC with multiple teams for each nation doesn’t count, because based on that, almost all SWISS players were playing for France). He was living for 5 years or more in Spain. So he’s fully eligible.
How does it not count, whilst he had the option beforehand to choose Spain by using your logic. But the  decision was made to play for a 2nd/3rd ENG team
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 05, 2023, 11:36:20 am
Its about people that played for a nation without a passport or any sort eligibility because of 2 factors:
Their nation is weak af, so they rather play with a stacked roster to have a higher chance to win;
Or they weren't good enough and want to play for a weaker nation just for the sake to play NWWC.

As Movement said, this is a dilemma for us because undoing all the decisions of the previous hosts can upset some people... But it can make a more fair tourmanent.
People which played last season of NWWC were all eligible to their nations according to rules which were made even before us. The only questionable person was Firefly. We didn’t take in account shitty NWWC with several teams for each nation, cause that was obviously a shit fest.

Saying that as example “Maskman isn’t eligible to play for Spain” is just totally wrong. I saw his Spanish docs. He didn’t play before for Team England (NWWC with multiple teams for each nation doesn’t count, because based on that, almost all SWISS players were playing for France). He was living for 5 years or more in Spain. So he’s fully eligible.
Did you allow all these swaps by the criteria of your own rules?
- Were born in X country.
- Have been living in X country for at least 5 years.

Just so funny, how you still try to protect your own decisions when they were retarded af.
That’s not my OWN rules, I believe Herishey and Caz made them literally 8 years ago.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 05, 2023, 11:37:08 am
Yeah read first before actually answering Vegi, you silly cucumber
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 11:39:40 am
Yeah read first before actually answering Vegi, you silly cucumber
I missunderstood, that's why I deleted my post.

And having a Visa doesnt make you eligible. His main residence is still in England lmao.

If I never played in NWWC before and I wanna play for France, that's also possible because my familiy got a home in France aswell haha!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 05, 2023, 11:41:10 am
Its about people that played for a nation without a passport or any sort eligibility because of 2 factors:
Their nation is weak af, so they rather play with a stacked roster to have a higher chance to win;
Or they weren't good enough and want to play for a weaker nation just for the sake to play NWWC.

As Movement said, this is a dilemma for us because undoing all the decisions of the previous hosts can upset some people... But it can make a more fair tourmanent.
People which played last season of NWWC were all eligible to their nations according to rules which were made even before us. The only questionable person was Firefly. We didn’t take in account shitty NWWC with several teams for each nation, cause that was obviously a shit fest.

Saying that as example “Maskman isn’t eligible to play for Spain” is just totally wrong. I saw his Spanish docs. He didn’t play before for Team England (NWWC with multiple teams for each nation doesn’t count, because based on that, almost all SWISS players were playing for France). He was living for 5 years or more in Spain. So he’s fully eligible.
How does it not count, whilst he had the option beforehand to choose Spain by using your logic. But the  decision was made to play for a 2nd/3rd ENG team
And we also had CIS teams that NWWC and Swiss players playing for France. So we allow coalitions again, cause that’s how it was played at that edition? It wouldn’t be fair to not allow Maskman change nation but allow Coco as example lead Switzerland. Same for CIS teams, one edition they are playing together, second edition fielding 8 players by each country.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 05, 2023, 11:41:52 am
Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for and if that country cant field a team then closest neighbour decided by admins or smth idk
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 11:44:18 am
As said before marx, the previous decisions were stupid.

- CIS shouldn't be a team since you guys have been big enough to field a team on your own.

- Several player swaps shouldn't have been allowed.

- Coalitions should only exist when 2 teams can't field a team alone.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 11:44:51 am
Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for
I suggested that the rules should be based on the FIFA "no nationality no eligibility", so if people dont posses a passport of the nation, that they cannot play for that nation.

Ofc playing for a different nation in the past, makes you playing permanent for that nation for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 05, 2023, 11:45:19 am
Coalitions should only exist when 2 teams can't field a team alone.

ye that makes sense tbf saves stacking nations that can already field teams by adding good players like DT in Germany

Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for
I suggested that the rules should be based on the FIFA "no nationality no eligibility", so if people dont posses a passport of the nation, that they cannot play for that nation.

Ofc playing for a different nation in the past, makes you playing permanent for that nation for the rest of your life.

problem is dual nationalities, a lot of people are born in countries then very shortly move away
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 11:47:34 am
Coalitions should only exist when 2 teams can't field a team alone.

ye that makes sense tbf saves stacking nations that can already field teams by adding good players like DT in Germany

Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for
I suggested that the rules should be based on the FIFA "no nationality no eligibility", so if people dont posses a passport of the nation, that they cannot play for that nation.

Ofc playing for a different nation in the past, makes you playing permanent for that nation for the rest of your life.

problem is dual nationalities
It's not a problem, like in Football or most international sports: people can chose what nation they want to play for, if they posses a passport for both nations ofc. But once they have chosen, they have to stick for the rest of their life.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 05, 2023, 11:53:56 am
Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for
I suggested that the rules should be based on the FIFA "no nationality no eligibility", so if people dont posses a passport of the nation, that they cannot play for that nation.

Ofc playing for a different nation in the past, makes you playing permanent for that nation for the rest of your life.
I totally agree with such rules but it wasn’t been followed for ages, and each NWWC with new hosts there’s swaps.. So on my opinion to prevent this, you guys shouldn’t make swaps again and shouldn’t force people to play for certain nations they didn’t play last edition. This NWWC is going to be deadest World Cup ever (if it will actually start) and by changing rules and previous hosts decisions you won’t make it better.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 05, 2023, 11:58:07 am
Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for
The tournament will last a month. Right? Right.
Why not just let a person play for the country they currently reside in and the country they will be in for the duration of the tournament?
I doubt anyone will pay money and move 100+ kilometres to play for a different team in a computer game about soldiers.
mhmmmmm  ::)

don't click if you are not rikkert!
yo erikkert you have a free bed? xx
I don't need much, ask NotOnly, can pay the rent for the month, can help in the household apart from any challenging cooking tasks (better not ask NotOnly on this one tho) and mijn Nederlands is niet erg goed, maar ik kan het dan nog verbeteren  ;)
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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 05, 2023, 12:00:10 pm
Just make it so the country you've lived in the longest is the country you play for
I suggested that the rules should be based on the FIFA "no nationality no eligibility", so if people dont posses a passport of the nation, that they cannot play for that nation.

Ofc playing for a different nation in the past, makes you playing permanent for that nation for the rest of your life.
I totally agree with such rules but it wasn’t been followed for ages, and each NWWC with new hosts there’s swaps.. So on my opinion to prevent this, you guys shouldn’t make swaps again and shouldn’t force people to play for certain nations they didn’t play last edition. This NWWC is going to be deadest World Cup ever (if it will actually start) and by changing rules and previous hosts decisions you won’t make it better.


The questionable player transfers to national teams presented difficulties for the Moderation team.

We would like to know what you all think about this situation. We see this as a dilemma with two sides: on one hand, we want to make it the most competitive and fair NWWC yet, which forces us to undo many previous poor decisions (which could infuriate some people); on the other hand, if we don't do that, what is your opinion on allowing people to argue their case for a swap?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Tomppa on April 05, 2023, 03:46:51 pm
Your papas nationality is the nation you're eligible to play for, end of discussion gg thanks bye no maskman this tourney
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: AchillesTheOne on April 05, 2023, 07:11:34 pm
Your papas nationality is the nation you're eligible to play for, end of discussion gg thanks bye no maskman this tourney

ez dub with germany
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zappy on April 05, 2023, 08:01:36 pm
Scandinavia / Nordic / ????

One last time??
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 05, 2023, 08:32:36 pm
tbf I don't know why Bodya's post was deleted considering I've just read it and it was absolutely fine, the discussion was on-topic, so you can't delete posts that don't suit you, Bodya's post was fine.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 08:37:37 pm
tbf I don't know why Bodya's post was deleted considering I've just read it and it was absolutely fine, the discussion was on-topic, so you can't delete posts that don't suit you, Bodya's post was fine.
It's not about that, I wanted Movements post to be on top so people read that instead of Bodya his post, so its justified.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gi on April 05, 2023, 09:54:38 pm
It's absolutely disgusting that you are deleting the posts of a man that has been making so many incredible suggestions/high quality posts
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 10:01:52 pm
It's absolutely disgusting that you are deleting the posts of a man that has been making so many incredible suggestions/high quality posts
explained why but his brain cannot accept it ahah
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 05, 2023, 10:23:19 pm
It's absolutely disgusting that you are deleting the posts of a man that has been making so many incredible suggestions/high quality posts
explained why but his brain cannot accept it ahah
He was being sarcastic ;D

Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 05, 2023, 10:27:25 pm
It's absolutely disgusting that you are deleting the posts of a man that has been making so many incredible suggestions/high quality posts
explained why but his brain cannot accept it ahah
He was being sarcastic ;D
Yeah ik?  ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 05, 2023, 10:45:21 pm
Why did you provide a serious answer to a sarcastic comment that you were away was sarcasm?  ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Chainsor on April 05, 2023, 11:02:34 pm
Why did you provide a serious answer to a sarcastic comment that you were away was sarcasm?  ???

aware*

Np uni, I know English isn‘t your first language!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 05, 2023, 11:51:24 pm
Why did you provide a serious answer to a sarcastic comment that you were away was sarcasm?  ???

aware*

Np uni, I know English isn‘t your first language!
In my defence I have been up 15 hours...

Thanks for recognising Scots though Chainsor :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 06, 2023, 09:59:57 am
Your papas nationality is the nation you're eligible to play for, end of discussion gg thanks bye no maskman this tourney

ez dub with germany
We love to see it
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 06, 2023, 04:40:14 pm
Your papas nationality is the nation you're eligible to play for, end of discussion gg thanks bye no maskman this tourney

ez dub with germany
We love to see it
GER do be stacked this year, i'll show my grandparents military papers from Alsace/Freiburg let me in  :P
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 06, 2023, 04:52:26 pm
Your papas nationality is the nation you're eligible to play for, end of discussion gg thanks bye no maskman this tourney

ez dub with germany
We love to see it
GER do be stacked this year, i'll show my grandparents military papers from Alsace/Freiburg let me in  :P

Germany is stacked every year, it's just for some reason they're incapable of playing together even though they've done it for years, the worst for team cohesion
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 06, 2023, 04:57:26 pm
They are not more stacked than France or England tbf, except last year when it was quite similar and they made a very good result, they could have won but this kind of matches is played on micro-details ^^
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 06, 2023, 05:05:07 pm
They are not more stacked than France or England tbf, except last year when it was quite similar and they made a very good result, they could have won but this kind of matches is played on micro-details ^^

Ye they're not more stacked but Germany has so many unique play styles that team cohesion suffers. France has copy-paste playstyles so they're predictable but as a result play together flawlessly and England rely heavily on having spoon-fed leadership (because like Germany, have different playstyles). That's what happened last year anyways, if the German players were also spoon-fed as much as England are, they'd probably win. Germany has so many solo players it's concerning.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 06, 2023, 05:18:00 pm
Pls dont call the stuff france is doing "playstyle" >:(

make a Duel NWWC
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zappy on April 06, 2023, 07:41:53 pm
Pls dont call the stuff france is doing "playstyle" >:(

make a Duel NWWC
high quality ballistic ????
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 06, 2023, 07:52:13 pm
Pls dont call the stuff france is doing "playstyle" >:(

make a Duel NWWC
high quality ballistic ????
and you're pretty happy to throw them.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Esdeath/Rob on April 07, 2023, 09:15:31 pm
U just keep losing possible Teams cuz of stupid stuff, like Red not being forced to play with SAU in last NWWC (which probably wont exist this time but u get the point)
There's a possibility for a SAU/SWISS coalition, but if people are willing to form that team, that's the question haha
If our "german" national state tournament showed one thing, then that SAU is looking pretty dead (like the last years)
What about Swiss/AUS, that's possible right? I know Austria is indeed pretty dead...
Swiss-AUstria is pretty dead in general ^^

For your back ground information, signups looked for SAU not really promising, they couldn't find enough players or even a cpt. In the end, the coalition got "saved" by Stockholm searching desperately for players, them playing together with Baden-Wuerttemberg (german state with around 11 mil people living in it, home state of players like igel wolpi eastwind angel lukasoh fruitocin0 domi etc which all didn't sign up at the start) and last but not least troll applications ^^

Granted, who gives a shit about some random ass german tournament (even worse, hosted by stockholm!) compare to NWWC, but I doubt they get a team together as last year has already shown.

Yeah i already heard from boboy that this summer he wont have much time for NWWC and I will also dont have a 100% attendance cause of work prob. so i dont see a Team SAU if we cant even have one Line up (+1-2 Subs)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 07, 2023, 09:22:11 pm
Well, that's sad to hear. We hope it still will be possible in some way, but just FYI that we rather not do coalitions between nations that don't need a coalition.
IMO, if someone steps up and does a bit of effort I think you guys will manage to bring a team together, but I can be wrong ofc.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: LEVIS on April 08, 2023, 03:17:51 am
but I can be wrong ofc.
dw ur always wrong
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Ceedoy on April 08, 2023, 05:21:40 am
but I can be wrong ofc.
dw ur always wrong
This time he is right.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 11, 2023, 02:17:20 pm
Noo England this year??
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 11, 2023, 03:42:38 pm
Noo England this year??
Doubt it
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 11, 2023, 03:47:51 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on April 11, 2023, 03:50:06 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X
Un être est absent et tout le groupe disparaît
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 11, 2023, 04:03:05 pm
Isnt Bagins not being there a positive argument FOR an ENG Team
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 12, 2023, 10:02:23 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: FENTON on April 12, 2023, 10:03:32 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

Underestimating team sco under supreme leader Gi.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 12, 2023, 10:49:43 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

Underestimating team sco under supreme leader Gi.

Here’s hoping
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gi on April 12, 2023, 11:03:08 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

Underestimating team sco under supreme leader Gi.
Can't wait to see you and unicorn in action, sharing a flank together
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 12, 2023, 11:19:02 pm
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 12, 2023, 11:28:48 pm
Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 12:41:07 am
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
First year since 2016 that Poosy hasn't been the main roster for ENG NWWC team and it didn't even get 3rd. Facts speak for themselves Zeyden. And who could possibly be in the NWWC team this year to make it competitive? List a roster of 8 people who will be competitive against FRA & GER.

Also I'm not so patriotic that I care if my 'nation' wins in a game that means sweet fuck all.

Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D

Finally got unmuted after spamming racial and homophobic slurs like a child? Have you finally grown up?

of course not...
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: tommyxd on April 14, 2023, 12:45:21 am
ENG_Maskman will carry
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Desant on April 14, 2023, 01:07:55 am
Spoiler
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
First year since 2016 that Poosy hasn't been the main roster for ENG NWWC team and it didn't even get 3rd. Facts speak for themselves Zeyden. And who could possibly be in the NWWC team this year to make it competitive? List a roster of 8 people who will be competitive against FRA & GER.

Also I'm not so patriotic that I care if my 'nation' wins in a game that means sweet fuck all.

Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D

Finally got unmuted after spamming racial and homophobic slurs like a child? Have you finally grown up?

of course not...
[close]

If you don't care if your "nation" wins or not, then why do you care if it's not competitive this year?
This tournament is made to bring the most countries together. Not playing the tournament at all because you can't get a super "STACK" is the logic of kid who wants to get a "ACHIVEMENT IN STEAM".
Here is a list of people who have played and are playing the current active NWMC tournament
Gibby
Hypno
HiReaper
Shadey
Axiom
Blackbeard
DOMI
Smallest
Fietta
Louis

If they can find the time to come to an NWMC match once a week, I don't think it would be a problem for them to come to NWWC once a week.
And if you look at this list of players, I don't think it looks weak
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 14, 2023, 01:09:22 am
common Desant W
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2023, 01:12:34 am
I would point out that Louis has had many offers to be in team ENG but I don't think he's interested as it's not his friends as such (I don't know the real reason just an assumption). I didn't play last year as I was trying to stop playing but my addiction roped me in for one more year sadly! I don't see why England couldn't still make a team though as long as it has someone to lead it with the player-base available (it wouldn't be near as strong I'm sure but still).
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 01:14:29 am
Spoiler
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
First year since 2016 that Poosy hasn't been the main roster for ENG NWWC team and it didn't even get 3rd. Facts speak for themselves Zeyden. And who could possibly be in the NWWC team this year to make it competitive? List a roster of 8 people who will be competitive against FRA & GER.

Also I'm not so patriotic that I care if my 'nation' wins in a game that means sweet fuck all.

Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D

Finally got unmuted after spamming racial and homophobic slurs like a child? Have you finally grown up?

of course not...
[close]

If you don't care if your "nation" wins or not, then why do you care if it's not competitive this year?
This tournament is made to bring the most countries together. Not playing the tournament at all because you can't get a super "STACK" is the logic of kid who wants to get a "ACHIVEMENT IN STEAM".
Here is a list of people who have played and are playing the current active NWMC tournament
Gibby
Hypno
HiReaper
Shadey
Axiom
Blackbeard
DOMI
Smallest
Fietta
Louis

If they can find the time to come to an NWMC match once a week, I don't think it would be a problem for them to come to NWWC once a week.
And if you look at this list of players, I don't think it looks weak
fyi i'm not playing because I don't enjoy the game. Not because I think ENG won't win this year.

But personally I don't see Fietta playing as he is sweating PE,
Louis hasn't played for ENG main team for a very long time (might change now the core ENG team isn't playing)
Not too sure about hypno, potentially won't play as most of his friends won't be,
can't see shadey playing as he has a real life,
DOMI is studying for exams and stopped playing even before RGL started.

So that debunks your theory a little there Desant.
And for me, this idea of 'coming together for a tournament' is boggling to me. It's a game, not the olympics
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Desant on April 14, 2023, 01:22:27 am
Spoiler
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
First year since 2016 that Poosy hasn't been the main roster for ENG NWWC team and it didn't even get 3rd. Facts speak for themselves Zeyden. And who could possibly be in the NWWC team this year to make it competitive? List a roster of 8 people who will be competitive against FRA & GER.

Also I'm not so patriotic that I care if my 'nation' wins in a game that means sweet fuck all.

Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D

Finally got unmuted after spamming racial and homophobic slurs like a child? Have you finally grown up?

of course not...
[close]

If you don't care if your "nation" wins or not, then why do you care if it's not competitive this year?
This tournament is made to bring the most countries together. Not playing the tournament at all because you can't get a super "STACK" is the logic of kid who wants to get a "ACHIVEMENT IN STEAM".
Here is a list of people who have played and are playing the current active NWMC tournament
Gibby
Hypno
HiReaper
Shadey
Axiom
Blackbeard
DOMI
Smallest
Fietta
Louis

If they can find the time to come to an NWMC match once a week, I don't think it would be a problem for them to come to NWWC once a week.
And if you look at this list of players, I don't think it looks weak
fyi i'm not playing because I don't enjoy the game. Not because I think ENG won't win this year.

But personally I don't see Fietta playing as he is sweating PE,
Louis hasn't played for ENG main team for a very long time (might change now the core ENG team isn't playing)
Not too sure about hypno, potentially won't play as most of his friends won't be,
can't see shadey playing as he has a real life,
DOMI is studying for exams and stopped playing even before RGL started.

So that debunks your theory a little there Desant.
And for me, this idea of 'coming together for a tournament' is boggling to me. It's a game, not the olympics

I didn't force you to come back lol. I didn't mean you, I meant the other active players. If their reason for not having as strong a lineup as before. It's just that what you write doesn't fall under reality.
All of the players I listed played their matches not long ago in NWMC (Except for Domi, not sure about him). But England does not end with these players.
It's just so ridiculous if England don't assemble their national team when other countries like Belgium or Norway can do it
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2023, 01:23:23 am
im not playing hertz is right
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2023, 01:25:38 am
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

I do agree though that some of those players you listed such as DOMI I doubt will have time to play, Louis might not want to as he has not in the past, Shadey I believe only plays rarely with Movement's lot as they're close friends I doubt he has much interest in the game itself, Fietta as he has stated wants to play PE with the bois and I don't see many other 'old' players coming back as like myself and Hertz we're simply done with NW. I'm not even sure Axiom would want to play as he rarely plays atm also.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2023, 01:25:52 am
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

we love it

Spoiler
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
First year since 2016 that Poosy hasn't been the main roster for ENG NWWC team and it didn't even get 3rd. Facts speak for themselves Zeyden. And who could possibly be in the NWWC team this year to make it competitive? List a roster of 8 people who will be competitive against FRA & GER.

Also I'm not so patriotic that I care if my 'nation' wins in a game that means sweet fuck all.

Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D

Finally got unmuted after spamming racial and homophobic slurs like a child? Have you finally grown up?

of course not...
[close]

If you don't care if your "nation" wins or not, then why do you care if it's not competitive this year?
This tournament is made to bring the most countries together. Not playing the tournament at all because you can't get a super "STACK" is the logic of kid who wants to get a "ACHIVEMENT IN STEAM".
Here is a list of people who have played and are playing the current active NWMC tournament
Gibby
Hypno
HiReaper
Shadey
Axiom
Blackbeard
DOMI
Smallest
Fietta
Louis

If they can find the time to come to an NWMC match once a week, I don't think it would be a problem for them to come to NWWC once a week.
And if you look at this list of players, I don't think it looks weak

I can see Blackbeard, Smallest, Hypno, Hireaper and gibby playing out of those but none of the rest
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2023, 01:28:20 am
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

we love it

Spoiler
There will be a team ENG this year, it's just that half the poosy players don't want to play if their father figure Bagins isn't there  :-X

Look at the sign ups, no ENG players at all. I highly doubt ENG will field a team this year. So enjoy the free win FRA/GER

Even if ENG play in this NWWC, it will be the worst team ENG has fielded since NWWC started imo

P.S bagins is no father figure, just a screaming toddler in the corner.

tbf you say that every year since you stopped playing that it's gonna be a joke blabla we get it yes ENG is weaker without poosy players but you should respect the new-gens trying to make a team instead of saying the roster will be a joke every year ngl that's not cool for them you should rather encourage them because it seems like you're just fucking with them every year lol, whether it's not you playing or not it's still your nation btw so it's still better if they win
First year since 2016 that Poosy hasn't been the main roster for ENG NWWC team and it didn't even get 3rd. Facts speak for themselves Zeyden. And who could possibly be in the NWWC team this year to make it competitive? List a roster of 8 people who will be competitive against FRA & GER.

Also I'm not so patriotic that I care if my 'nation' wins in a game that means sweet fuck all.

Hertz complaining is not the unusual  ;D

Finally got unmuted after spamming racial and homophobic slurs like a child? Have you finally grown up?

of course not...
[close]

If you don't care if your "nation" wins or not, then why do you care if it's not competitive this year?
This tournament is made to bring the most countries together. Not playing the tournament at all because you can't get a super "STACK" is the logic of kid who wants to get a "ACHIVEMENT IN STEAM".
Here is a list of people who have played and are playing the current active NWMC tournament
Gibby
Hypno
HiReaper
Shadey
Axiom
Blackbeard
DOMI
Smallest
Fietta
Louis

If they can find the time to come to an NWMC match once a week, I don't think it would be a problem for them to come to NWWC once a week.
And if you look at this list of players, I don't think it looks weak

I can see Blackbeard, Smallest, Hypno, Hireaper and gibby playing out of those but none of the rest
Hypno can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure at our meetup he was thinking about quitting with a lot of the old players gone I don't think he has much interest.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 01:28:30 am
I'm sure ENG CAN field a team, it just won't be competitive.

And purely from my point of view, I've never found this game fun unless competing for wins. I don't think ENG this year can compete against FRA/GER. From my pov it wouldn't be fun to play in a team I personally don't think can compete, play with those who I don't really want to. In a game I don't enjoy.

All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.

No hate to anyone.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2023, 01:32:18 am
All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.
If we had the same team as last year we’d win easily at current player levels
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 01:35:34 am
All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.
If we had the same team as last year we’d win easily at current player levels

Axiom - probs not playing
Blitzkrieg - nobody has mentioned
Bagins - not playing
Blackbeard - possibly playing
Cody - uni?
Domi - not playing
Gibby - playing
Hypno - most likely not playing
HiReaper - playing
Python - not playing

If you had the exact same team, yes. You might win. But that goes the same for every team if you just want to repeat last years NWWC.

Your argument makes 0 sense as over half that ENG team isn't playing
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2023, 01:37:46 am
Blitz defo ain't playing.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 01:39:37 am
Blitz defo ain't playing.
So for definite, ENG this year has Gibby and HiReaper.

Don't get me wrong, a bloody good start. But you're lacking the other 4 members to make the minimum roster requirements. And I honestly can't think of any people that are gonna fill those slots.
Might be very close minded of me, but I'm only really familiar with the Poosy community + friends.
So if i've missed some vital people off. Feel free to correct me.

But I think you might struggle to find another 4 people to compete at NWWC level.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Desant on April 14, 2023, 01:41:21 am
Spoiler
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

I do agree though that some of those players you listed such as DOMI I doubt will have time to play, Louis might not want to as he has not in the past, Shadey I believe only plays rarely with Movement's lot as they're close friends I doubt he has much interest in the game itself, Fietta as he has stated wants to play PE with the bois and I don't see many other 'old' players coming back as like myself and Hertz we're simply done with NW. I'm not even sure Axiom would want to play as he rarely plays atm also.
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Big D, I did not write that the old players are back, I wrote a list of players who are now playing, at least 5 of them are active, as Fietta wrote.
Enough to take 2-3 more average players and the team will not look bad.

I'm sure ENG CAN field a team, it just won't be competitive.

And purely from my point of view, I've never found this game fun unless competing for wins. I don't think ENG this year can compete against FRA/GER. From my pov it wouldn't be fun to play in a team I personally don't think can compete, play with those who I don't really want to. In a game I don't enjoy.

All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.

No hate to anyone.

Everyone plays to win, but that doesn't mean you can't take other players and try to do better. A lot of national teams are weaker than ENG/FRA/GER, but they keep playing anyway. and try to show their best game.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 01:49:27 am
I think really the lineup stands at:
Gibby,
HiReaper,
Blackbeard?,
Smallest?,

Other than this i'm scratching my head trying to think of names of active ENG players

Everyone plays to win, but that doesn't mean you can't take other players and try to do better. A lot of national teams are weaker than ENG/FRA/GER, but they keep playing anyway. and try to show their best game.

I'm sure they can, and will. I'm not saying for a second that because it's ENG they aren't allowed to do that. And that they HAVE to go for 1st. It was a little hard for me to take ENG coming 4th last year, but was like water off a ducks back really. Didn't care much at all. But with how i feel about the game now, idc where ENG places. Wish everyone in NWWC all the best.

Just for me, i've had an easy run in NW tbf. All the people i'm closest to, are extremely high level players, that played with me in ENG and Poosy. So NWWC was always enjoyable no matter what.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2023, 01:50:07 am
Spoiler
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

I do agree though that some of those players you listed such as DOMI I doubt will have time to play, Louis might not want to as he has not in the past, Shadey I believe only plays rarely with Movement's lot as they're close friends I doubt he has much interest in the game itself, Fietta as he has stated wants to play PE with the bois and I don't see many other 'old' players coming back as like myself and Hertz we're simply done with NW. I'm not even sure Axiom would want to play as he rarely plays atm also.
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Big D, I did not write that the old players are back, I wrote a list of players who are now playing, at least 5 of them are active, as Fietta wrote.
Enough to take 2-3 more average players and the team will not look bad.

I'm sure ENG CAN field a team, it just won't be competitive.

And purely from my point of view, I've never found this game fun unless competing for wins. I don't think ENG this year can compete against FRA/GER. From my pov it wouldn't be fun to play in a team I personally don't think can compete, play with those who I don't really want to. In a game I don't enjoy.

All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.

No hate to anyone.

Everyone plays to win, but that doesn't mean you can't take other players and try to do better. A lot of national teams are weaker than ENG/FRA/GER, but they keep playing anyway. and try to show their best game.
Ofc, I don't think Hertz was saying team England can't/won't play more it wont be anywhere near as competitive as it has been ever in any previous years. I think they'd be a 3rd/4th place contender with a good bracket but much further they'd be underdogs.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 01:52:10 am
Spoiler
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

I do agree though that some of those players you listed such as DOMI I doubt will have time to play, Louis might not want to as he has not in the past, Shadey I believe only plays rarely with Movement's lot as they're close friends I doubt he has much interest in the game itself, Fietta as he has stated wants to play PE with the bois and I don't see many other 'old' players coming back as like myself and Hertz we're simply done with NW. I'm not even sure Axiom would want to play as he rarely plays atm also.
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Big D, I did not write that the old players are back, I wrote a list of players who are now playing, at least 5 of them are active, as Fietta wrote.
Enough to take 2-3 more average players and the team will not look bad.

I'm sure ENG CAN field a team, it just won't be competitive.

And purely from my point of view, I've never found this game fun unless competing for wins. I don't think ENG this year can compete against FRA/GER. From my pov it wouldn't be fun to play in a team I personally don't think can compete, play with those who I don't really want to. In a game I don't enjoy.

All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.

No hate to anyone.

Everyone plays to win, but that doesn't mean you can't take other players and try to do better. A lot of national teams are weaker than ENG/FRA/GER, but they keep playing anyway. and try to show their best game.
Ofc, I don't think Hertz was saying team England can't/won't play more it wont be anywhere near as competitive as it has been ever in any previous years. I think they'd be a 3rd/4th place contender with a good bracket but much further they'd be underdogs.

I just think that this will be the first time ENG will be the underdogs, and I think last years performance cemented that.

If I was interested in the game it would be an interesting thing to have to overcome
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2023, 03:07:44 am
All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.
If we had the same team as last year we’d win easily at current player levels

Axiom - probs not playing
Blitzkrieg - nobody has mentioned
Bagins - not playing
Blackbeard - possibly playing
Cody - uni?
Domi - not playing
Gibby - playing
Hypno - most likely not playing
HiReaper - playing
Python - not playing

If you had the exact same team, yes. You might win. But that goes the same for every team if you just want to repeat last years NWWC.

Your argument makes 0 sense as over half that ENG team isn't playing
Ah you have misunderstood me I think. I wasn’t making a point about who will play this year, just saying that the “non-poosy” lineup from last year would win easily this year
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Risk_ on April 14, 2023, 03:24:48 am
Don't worry guys. I have spoken with HiReaper and NA and ENG will be teaming up this year to form the "Allies" to account for the low player base

see you all on the battlefield
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: HiReaper on April 14, 2023, 03:36:03 am
Don't worry guys. I have spoken with HiReaper and NA and ENG will be teaming up this year to form the "Allies" to account for the low player base

see you all on the battlefield

^^

yeah England is looking really dead after talking to people, with multiple people quitting or planning to quit.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2023, 08:47:51 am
a lot of people trying to get their “right”  while not interested to play, what a joke 🤣
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 10:54:50 am
All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.
If we had the same team as last year we’d win easily at current player levels

Axiom - probs not playing
Blitzkrieg - nobody has mentioned
Bagins - not playing
Blackbeard - possibly playing
Cody - uni?
Domi - not playing
Gibby - playing
Hypno - most likely not playing
HiReaper - playing
Python - not playing

If you had the exact same team, yes. You might win. But that goes the same for every team if you just want to repeat last years NWWC.

Your argument makes 0 sense as over half that ENG team isn't playing
Ah you have misunderstood me I think. I wasn’t making a point about who will play this year, just saying that the “non-poosy” lineup from last year would win easily this year

The "non-poosy" lineup from last year would be:
HiReaper, Gibby, Cody, Blitz, (maybe blackbeard but he has been in poosy before and won tournaments with us)
Not quite sure how a 4/5 man roster is going to 'win easily' in a 6v6 format. So I still don't understand your point.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 14, 2023, 10:59:48 am
ppl do have a big ego problem in this game ngl

Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: MarxeiL on April 14, 2023, 11:03:33 am
I’m racist
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Miloradovich on April 14, 2023, 11:06:08 am
I’m racist
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2023, 11:13:20 am
I’m racist
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: ClaSh on April 14, 2023, 11:29:21 am
Spoiler
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

I do agree though that some of those players you listed such as DOMI I doubt will have time to play, Louis might not want to as he has not in the past, Shadey I believe only plays rarely with Movement's lot as they're close friends I doubt he has much interest in the game itself, Fietta as he has stated wants to play PE with the bois and I don't see many other 'old' players coming back as like myself and Hertz we're simply done with NW. I'm not even sure Axiom would want to play as he rarely plays atm also.
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Big D, I did not write that the old players are back, I wrote a list of players who are now playing, at least 5 of them are active, as Fietta wrote.
Enough to take 2-3 more average players and the team will not look bad.

I'm sure ENG CAN field a team, it just won't be competitive.

And purely from my point of view, I've never found this game fun unless competing for wins. I don't think ENG this year can compete against FRA/GER. From my pov it wouldn't be fun to play in a team I personally don't think can compete, play with those who I don't really want to. In a game I don't enjoy.

All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.

No hate to anyone.

Everyone plays to win, but that doesn't mean you can't take other players and try to do better. A lot of national teams are weaker than ENG/FRA/GER, but they keep playing anyway. and try to show their best game.
Ofc, I don't think Hertz was saying team England can't/won't play more it wont be anywhere near as competitive as it has been ever in any previous years. I think they'd be a 3rd/4th place contender with a good bracket but much further they'd be underdogs.

I just think that this will be the first time ENG will be the underdogs, and I think last years performance cemented that.

If I was interested in the game it would be an interesting thing to have to overcome

Comeback Lucas pls
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 11:35:19 am
Spoiler
Spoiler
im not playing hertz is right
PE neek now

I do agree though that some of those players you listed such as DOMI I doubt will have time to play, Louis might not want to as he has not in the past, Shadey I believe only plays rarely with Movement's lot as they're close friends I doubt he has much interest in the game itself, Fietta as he has stated wants to play PE with the bois and I don't see many other 'old' players coming back as like myself and Hertz we're simply done with NW. I'm not even sure Axiom would want to play as he rarely plays atm also.
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Big D, I did not write that the old players are back, I wrote a list of players who are now playing, at least 5 of them are active, as Fietta wrote.
Enough to take 2-3 more average players and the team will not look bad.

I'm sure ENG CAN field a team, it just won't be competitive.

And purely from my point of view, I've never found this game fun unless competing for wins. I don't think ENG this year can compete against FRA/GER. From my pov it wouldn't be fun to play in a team I personally don't think can compete, play with those who I don't really want to. In a game I don't enjoy.

All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.

No hate to anyone.

Everyone plays to win, but that doesn't mean you can't take other players and try to do better. A lot of national teams are weaker than ENG/FRA/GER, but they keep playing anyway. and try to show their best game.
Ofc, I don't think Hertz was saying team England can't/won't play more it wont be anywhere near as competitive as it has been ever in any previous years. I think they'd be a 3rd/4th place contender with a good bracket but much further they'd be underdogs.

I just think that this will be the first time ENG will be the underdogs, and I think last years performance cemented that.

If I was interested in the game it would be an interesting thing to have to overcome

Comeback Lucas pls
[close]
Cela n'arrivera jamais
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2023, 12:07:32 pm
All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.
If we had the same team as last year we’d win easily at current player levels

Axiom - probs not playing
Blitzkrieg - nobody has mentioned
Bagins - not playing
Blackbeard - possibly playing
Cody - uni?
Domi - not playing
Gibby - playing
Hypno - most likely not playing
HiReaper - playing
Python - not playing

If you had the exact same team, yes. You might win. But that goes the same for every team if you just want to repeat last years NWWC.

Your argument makes 0 sense as over half that ENG team isn't playing
Ah you have misunderstood me I think. I wasn’t making a point about who will play this year, just saying that the “non-poosy” lineup from last year would win easily this year

The "non-poosy" lineup from last year would be:
HiReaper, Gibby, Cody, Blitz, (maybe blackbeard but he has been in poosy before and won tournaments with us)
Not quite sure how a 4/5 man roster is going to 'win easily' in a 6v6 format. So I still don't understand your point.
Ah well to be fair this one is on me cuz I can see how you read it that way 😂
Referring to my first reply to you, what I meant was that the team England side from last year, which you considered to have “stopped being Poosy”, would win easily. To put it another way, if the player skill levels were as they are now we’d have won easily last year with that team - my point is that the core being “non-poosy”, which you determined to be the case last year, does not mean the team couldn’t win
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2023, 12:12:55 pm
Spoiler
All I've said is opinion, personal feelings and stated a fact that since the main ENG lineup stopped being Poosy (last year) ENG dropped off and came 4th. Whereas since 2016 when Poosy formed half/most of the full team lineup we have competed for 1st.
If we had the same team as last year we’d win easily at current player levels

Axiom - probs not playing
Blitzkrieg - nobody has mentioned
Bagins - not playing
Blackbeard - possibly playing
Cody - uni?
Domi - not playing
Gibby - playing
Hypno - most likely not playing
HiReaper - playing
Python - not playing

If you had the exact same team, yes. You might win. But that goes the same for every team if you just want to repeat last years NWWC.

Your argument makes 0 sense as over half that ENG team isn't playing
Ah you have misunderstood me I think. I wasn’t making a point about who will play this year, just saying that the “non-poosy” lineup from last year would win easily this year

The "non-poosy" lineup from last year would be:
HiReaper, Gibby, Cody, Blitz, (maybe blackbeard but he has been in poosy before and won tournaments with us)
Not quite sure how a 4/5 man roster is going to 'win easily' in a 6v6 format. So I still don't understand your point.
Ah well to be fair this one is on me cuz I can see how you read it that way 😂
Referring to my first reply to you, what I meant was that the team England side from last year, which you considered to have “stopped being Poosy”, would win easily. To put it another way, if the player skill levels were as they are now we’d have won easily last year with that team - my point is that the core being “non-poosy”, which you determined to be the case last year, does not mean the team couldn’t win
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Not saying you couldn't win, just saying you didn't.
I know the match vs FRA was close, 15-14 i believe.
It's also the first year that FRA/ENG haven't met in the finals.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Skittykiller on April 14, 2023, 12:27:45 pm
No worries, dutch team will for surely win this year!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 14, 2023, 01:03:37 pm
England needs a Captain? DM me the terms before I accept this position.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2023, 01:14:11 pm
No nation swaps!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 14, 2023, 01:16:56 pm
But im in spain rn!!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2023, 01:17:20 pm
Yes
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Miloradovich on April 14, 2023, 01:37:41 pm
England needs a Captain? DM me the terms before I accept this position.
disaster stay in darkness brother
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Kore on April 14, 2023, 05:49:26 pm
Golden would be willing to captain team ENG
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 14, 2023, 05:53:00 pm
yea man IRE hasnt been able to get enough players the last 5 years so that would be his chance to finally play an NWWC!!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 14, 2023, 06:40:33 pm
yea man IRE hasnt been able to get enough players the last 5 years so that would be his chance to finally play an NWWC!!
Ire played last year?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 14, 2023, 07:13:17 pm
yea man IRE hasnt been able to get enough players the last 5 years so that would be his chance to finally play an NWWC!!
Ire played last year?

congrats uni you understood the joke, its just cuz IRE has been crying about not having enough for the past years while always easily having a team in the end
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 14, 2023, 07:20:54 pm
Guess no GER_DarkTemplar this year then
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Nightwing on April 14, 2023, 07:32:29 pm
Guess no GER_DarkTemplar this year then
Stealing our best player of the last years like this, smh movement  :(
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on April 14, 2023, 07:34:50 pm
Yea guess no Team GER then as there go our chances to win and i doubt our egos will allow us playing otherwise!
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 14, 2023, 09:10:20 pm
yea man IRE hasnt been able to get enough players the last 5 years so that would be his chance to finally play an NWWC!!
Ire played last year?

congrats uni you understood the joke, its just cuz IRE has been crying about not having enough for the past years while always easily having a team in the end
Nah man you're just shit at sarcasm ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Ceedoy on April 14, 2023, 09:30:11 pm
yea man IRE hasnt been able to get enough players the last 5 years so that would be his chance to finally play an NWWC!!
They had so few people that they took first place last year. Wow. I wonder how? (sarcazm)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: R1bazZz on April 14, 2023, 09:56:18 pm
yea man IRE hasnt been able to get enough players the last 5 years so that would be his chance to finally play an NWWC!!
They had so few people that they took first place last year. Wow. I wonder how? (sarcazm)
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNGM0ZjA1N2NlZjJjNTFlODg2YWQ1MzNkNDY0NDcxNmU2ODczOTQ0NCZjdD1n/cXblnKXr2BQOaYnTni/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: FENTON on April 14, 2023, 10:45:58 pm
I think you guys need to look up the word sarcasm
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: David_Schrein on April 15, 2023, 12:09:29 am
Yea guess no Team GER then as there go our chances to win and i doubt our egos will allow us playing otherwise!
were there any to start with?  8)
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Kore on April 15, 2023, 01:09:07 pm
I think you guys need to look up the word sarcasm

Especially uni
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Xaos on April 19, 2023, 04:59:39 pm
I think you guys need to look up the word sarcasm
🤓
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Golden. on April 22, 2023, 05:10:34 pm
Golden would be willing to captain team ENG

 ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Kore on April 30, 2023, 09:36:20 am
This a thing still?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 30, 2023, 12:23:58 pm
This a thing still?
Yes
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 10:46:41 am
Hello I’m interest about the bracket and how did he maded from tomorows he already changed 3 time and now I can conclude like that
Chapeau 1
France
Deutchland
Netherlands ?
England
Chapeau 2
Scotland
Ukraine ?
Poland ?
Russia ?
Chapeau 3
Finland ?
Turkey ?
USA
Belgium
Chapeau 4
Portugal
Arabia
Danemark
Chekoslovakia ?

And about that I want to know how do you made It from what things I know it always the same top 3 fra eng and ger but I think we need to guive more reliatble for other country like World Cup ? No ? Tell me
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on May 15, 2023, 10:48:01 am
Only changed once due Russian suddenly signing up. We just had some problems with the Challonge before the change.

Also I have no clue what you mean with the rest of your post lmao
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 10:51:04 am
I done my own rate of country used by past year match and my point of views of roster

NWWC Lebrun bracket
Chapeau 1
England
France
Deutchland
Poland
Chapeau 2
Ukraine
Nederland
Scotland
Turquia
Chapeau 3
Chekoslovakia
United States of amarica
Russia
Belgigium
Chapeau 4
Danemark
Arabia
Finland
Portugal

For me it’s more reliatable tell me what do you think
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 10:52:26 am
Only changed once due Russian suddenly signing up. We just had some problems with the Challonge before the change.

Also I have no clue what you mean with the rest of your post lmao

I’m interested about how did the bracket maded that all. What your rank of team ? And how did you doing it.It’s not randomized ofc because of top 3 not in same groupe
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on May 15, 2023, 10:54:38 am
We tried to balance it out like you did with your rating. Our rating and your rating are pretty similar.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on May 15, 2023, 10:57:11 am
Only changed once due Russian suddenly signing up. We just had some problems with the Challonge before the change.

Also I have no clue what you mean with the rest of your post lmao

I’m interested about how did the bracket maded that all. What your rank of team ? And how did you doing it.It’s not randomized ofc because of top 3 not in same groupe
That list is not much different from what we did, in fact everyone would have a different opinion and there would be 500 ways to make and remake the bracket, for example I consider Russia personally better than Turkey, it doesn't really matter in the end because the best will advance to playoffs that's all  :P
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 10:57:21 am
We tried to balance it out like you did with your rating. Our rating and your rating are pretty similar.
Yes but not the same you know I mean look the
Group A there is a no match Scotland will win Finland and Portugal and finish second it’s already written no ?
Groupe B
Turkish
German
Ukraine
In the same groupe ?

Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on May 15, 2023, 10:59:41 am
We tried to balance it out like you did with your rating. Our rating and your rating are pretty similar.
Yes but not the same you know I mean look the
Group A there is a no match Scotland will win Finland and Portugal and finish second it’s already written no ?
Groupe B
Turkish
German
Ukraine
In the same groupe ?
Bro, I said its pretty much the same. Doesnt mean it is the same mon ami. This challonge is what we believe is the most even. Like Zeyden said this is opinion based and everyone will have a different one on this matter.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 11:01:32 am
Okay for me there is one prb and it’s the groupe A do you relly think that Scotland is a top 4 ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 11:02:17 am
Because doing it it’s giving them a free ticket to quarter
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on May 15, 2023, 11:03:38 am
No... They're top 8 and will most likely end up 2nd in their group like other nations such as Ukraine, Netherlands, Russia...
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 11:05:30 am
So you literally don’t care about the third team ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 11:06:24 am
You playing for Belgium how can you says that ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on May 15, 2023, 11:12:52 am
No, it's just that everything is more or less always written in a game where there are 50 active players, Vegi just isn't naive to believe that you can balance things in a NWWC even when in Football it's not. But anyway we shouldn't think that everything is already written at 100%. Look at last year France almost lost against Poland and England lost against them, everything can happen, but to think that everything can be balanced correctly, no it's impossible and that's the exact reason why many people dislike NWWC.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Wursti on May 15, 2023, 11:16:50 am
Lets not ignore the fact that Ireland this NWWC will do as well as in the last ones
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 11:20:33 am
Spoiler
Lets not ignore the fact that Ireland this NWWC will do as well as in the last ones
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Censored free violence wursti
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on May 15, 2023, 01:05:44 pm
We tried to balance it out like you did with your rating. Our rating and your rating are pretty similar.
Yes but not the same you know I mean look the
Group A there is a no match Scotland will win Finland and Portugal and finish second it’s already written no ?
Groupe B
Turkish
German
Ukraine
In the same groupe ?


You haven't seen the masterclass in NW Fenton and I are cooking up

In all seriousness, stick to one post instead of rambling via many posts.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gi on May 15, 2023, 01:15:23 pm
Okay for me there is one prb and it’s the groupe A do you relly think that Scotland is a top 4 ?
Last NWWC we came second in our group as the third seed and had a good match vs Germany in the quarters, consider using a different example.

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Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 01:46:43 pm
I not says that your are bad but are you top 4 ? No ? But you still got your free ticket in quarter without any real match last year you beat Ireland it was great, they says you are top 8 so why not put the top 9 to do a real match and guive chance to the two side ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gi on May 15, 2023, 01:58:57 pm
I not says that your are bad but are you top 4 ? No ? But you still got your free ticket in quarter without any real match last year you beat Ireland it was great, they says you are top 8 so why not put the top 9 to do a real match and guive chance to the two side ?
I'm sorry I have no idea what you are trying to say
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 02:01:08 pm
I not says that your are bad but are you top 4 ? No ? But you still got your free ticket in quarter without any real match last year you beat Ireland it was great, they says you are top 8 so why not put the top 9 to do a real match and guive chance to the two side ?
I'm sorry I have no idea what you are trying to say
I’m just saying that your got a free quarter final ticket
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gi on May 15, 2023, 02:02:43 pm
I not says that your are bad but are you top 4 ? No ? But you still got your free ticket in quarter without any real match last year you beat Ireland it was great, they says you are top 8 so why not put the top 9 to do a real match and guive chance to the two side ?
I'm sorry I have no idea what you are trying to say
I’m just saying that your got a free quarter final ticket
Perks of being a top 8 team
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 02:05:11 pm
I not says that your are bad but are you top 4 ? No ? But you still got your free ticket in quarter without any real match last year you beat Ireland it was great, they says you are top 8 so why not put the top 9 to do a real match and guive chance to the two side ?
I'm sorry I have no idea what you are trying to say
I’m just saying that your got a free quarter final ticket
Perks of being a top 8 team
I would says nothing if it was full randomized but it’s not
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on May 15, 2023, 02:06:54 pm
NWWC was never randomised (I think), and with the current state of the NW community we dont want to do chances like that
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Gi on May 15, 2023, 02:08:19 pm
I not says that your are bad but are you top 4 ? No ? But you still got your free ticket in quarter without any real match last year you beat Ireland it was great, they says you are top 8 so why not put the top 9 to do a real match and guive chance to the two side ?
I'm sorry I have no idea what you are trying to say
I’m just saying that your got a free quarter final ticket
Perks of being a top 8 team
I would says nothing if it was full randomized but it’s not
It's a seeded tournament buddy, I don't know what you expect
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 02:08:57 pm
So a last terrible dance , we will see
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Vegi. on May 15, 2023, 02:11:18 pm
So a last terrible dance , we will see
Not sure you ever played in NWWC before, so I dont think your judgement has any value atm.
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 15, 2023, 02:14:10 pm
So a last terrible dance , we will see
Not sure you ever played in NWWC before, so I dont think your judgement has any value atm.
That why I say see not play  ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Sellsword_Pedro on May 16, 2023, 10:13:43 pm
We tried to balance it out like you did with your rating. Our rating and your rating are pretty similar.
Yes but not the same you know I mean look the
Group A there is a no match Scotland will win Finland and Portugal and finish second it’s already written no ?
Groupe B
Turkish
German
Ukraine
In the same groupe ?

respect portugal
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: Witold on May 17, 2023, 09:08:49 am
We tried to balance it out like you did with your rating. Our rating and your rating are pretty similar.
Yes but not the same you know I mean look the
Group A there is a no match Scotland will win Finland and Portugal and finish second it’s already written no ?
Groupe B
Turkish
German
Ukraine
In the same groupe ?

respect portugal
Ofc I respect CR7 country
Title: Re: NWWC 2023 | Suggestions
Post by: R1bazZz on May 17, 2023, 01:46:17 pm
Why do u have Portugal's name in ur mouth, Zeyden and Vegi didnt want to let us play because he said it would be 2 ez of a tournament for us, chill out