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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => General Discussion => Suggestions & Bug Reports => Topic started by: Caps on September 21, 2018, 01:16:36 pm

Title: turkish faction?
Post by: Caps on September 21, 2018, 01:16:36 pm
Why is there no turkish faction? They would add great unit variety, and you maybe could have used some of fire and sword models. It just might to be little hard to balance them, but you got khergits in warband aswell they just get excluded from competitive play.

(Theres no point adding them now but maybe for bannerlord)
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: yecgga on September 21, 2018, 03:19:06 pm
cuz fse staff hate turks and ottoman empire, dunno why but they have a grunge against us
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: ✠ Connor ✠ on September 21, 2018, 03:40:25 pm
Because the Ottomans didn't really participate in the Napoleonic Wars, that's why they are not in the game.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Caps on September 21, 2018, 04:16:43 pm
Because the Ottomans didn't really participate in the Napoleonic Wars, that's why they are not in the game.

they just sat there and watched while everyone was at war

use google pls
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: yecgga on September 21, 2018, 04:22:39 pm
Because the Ottomans didn't really participate in the Napoleonic Wars, that's why they are not in the game.

This is just ignorant. Ottoman empire fought with France, England and Russia in Napoleonic Era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_campaign_in_Egypt_and_Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Turkish_War_(1807–09)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1806–1812)

But to be realist, NW is a dead game already. Not expecting them to add a new faction now.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: MightyPaiN on September 21, 2018, 04:23:28 pm
Why is there no Serbian faction? They would add great unit variety, and you maybe could have used some of fire and sword models. It just might to be little hard to balance them, but you got khergits in warband aswell they just get excluded from competitive play.

(Theres no point adding them now but maybe for bannerlord)
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Caps on September 21, 2018, 04:31:45 pm
prob because it was under ottoman occupation
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: MightyPaiN on September 21, 2018, 04:32:25 pm
prob because it was under austrian and ottoman occupation
lies
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Caps on September 21, 2018, 04:34:22 pm
prob because it was under austrian and ottoman occupation
lies

"In 1817 Principality of Serbia was granted de facto independence from the Ottoman Empire."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Serbia#Ottoman_rule

Napoleonic Wars end 1815, unlucky i guess

Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: ✠ Connor ✠ on September 21, 2018, 04:45:16 pm
Because the Ottomans didn't really participate in the Napoleonic Wars, that's why they are not in the game.

they just sat there and watched while everyone was at war

use google pls

They were present during the Egypt Campaign. And after that? Where they at Leipzig? Did they join any of the later Coalitons? No. This is like saying "They should add Brazil as a playable faction in a WW2 game because they supported the allies". The Ottomans had their part, but it's not enough to add them into a game about the Napoleonic Wars.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Caps on September 21, 2018, 04:49:18 pm
Because the Ottomans didn't really participate in the Napoleonic Wars, that's why they are not in the game.

they just sat there and watched while everyone was at war

use google pls

They were present during the Egypt Campaign. And after that? Where they at Leipzig? Did they join any of the later Coalitons? No. This is like saying "They should add Brazil as a playable faction in a WW2 game because they supported the allies". The Ottomans had their part, but it's not enough to add them into a game about the Napoleonic Wars.

rheinbund got its own faction aswell for basicly being integrated in the french army, its a game the focus should lie in the gameplay

brazil is playable in hearts of iron 4 btw
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: ✠ Connor ✠ on September 21, 2018, 04:53:58 pm
Because the Ottomans didn't really participate in the Napoleonic Wars, that's why they are not in the game.

they just sat there and watched while everyone was at war

use google pls

They were present during the Egypt Campaign. And after that? Where they at Leipzig? Did they join any of the later Coalitons? No. This is like saying "They should add Brazil as a playable faction in a WW2 game because they supported the allies". The Ottomans had their part, but it's not enough to add them into a game about the Napoleonic Wars.

rheinbund got its own faction aswell for basicly being integrated in the french army, its a game the focus should lie in the gameplay

brazil is playable in hearts of iron 4 btw

I'm not actually against adding them, but I can understand why they didn't put them into the game. Yea Brazil is playable but so is Haiti. Paradox Games are Global Strategy games so they just make everything playable even if the nation itself is not very interesting.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Vincenzo on September 21, 2018, 05:52:48 pm
No, turkey has nothing to do with the later half of the napoleonic wars, which this game is based on.


(also they absolutely sucked as an army so why bother. )
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: AeroNinja on September 21, 2018, 06:06:07 pm
(also they absolutely sucked as an army so why bother. )

Probably not as hard as the NW and Warband devs creating m&b physics.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Vincenzo on September 21, 2018, 06:11:01 pm
It's open source, good luck making it better.  :-*  :P

https://github.com/bulletphysics/bullet3
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: yecgga on September 21, 2018, 06:18:30 pm
No, turkey has nothing to do with the later half of the napoleonic wars, which this game is based on.


(also they absolutely sucked as an army so why bother. )

You're so fanatical and bigoted, check all these wikipedia pages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_campaign_in_Egypt_and_Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Turkish_War_(1807–09)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1806–1812)

And Ottoman Empire is one of the biggest empires in the history ever, Lasted for 700 years.

But you're just another Turk hater, you wouldn't want to understand.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Sanders on September 21, 2018, 07:19:37 pm
Citing wikipedia as credible sources lol. Ottoman Empire 1700 onwards was a shell of its former self.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: AeroNinja on September 21, 2018, 07:27:15 pm
Ottoman Empire atleast got something big. You Americans needed the Europeans to create your country. Calling yourselves Americans whilst the Natives were the real ones is silly af.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Sgt.Winters on September 21, 2018, 07:39:16 pm
Ottoman Empire atleast got something big. You Americans needed the Europeans to create your country. Calling yourselves Americans whilst the Natives were the real ones is silly af.
The Natives are all fucking dead for the most part, who cares.  We all know Europe does not want to be labeled with us in name since we are such "disasters".
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: AeroNinja on September 21, 2018, 07:41:50 pm
Yeah they are all dead because they live in sad fucking isolated places. Drinking and doing drugs because in some places they live in un-human situations. There are still a lot of Native Americans in other regions. I want to see how many people would care if you are living in that sort of situation aswell. For I would not care at all.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Sanders on September 21, 2018, 07:48:05 pm
The majority of them died long before they were forced on reservations. Its not my fault at the same point in history Europians had black powder weapons while those inbreds were still using spears. Toss in the exposure to new diseases and you can see how most of them died.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: AeroNinja on September 21, 2018, 07:51:09 pm
Maybe a large group died, but there are still a lot alive. My cousin travels to America a lot, and she had to back away from one tribe because they were living under such bad circumstances they just drank and had firearms. I hate this American patriotism (fuck that country, who cares about those people, etc...) aswell as what my fellow Europeans did in America.
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Thunderstormer on September 21, 2018, 08:18:15 pm
There are no new factions being added period to the next patch. 


IF we were really going to add another faction, you all are doing a very poor job on selling your idea as to what faction that should be. Perhaps next time you can try showing all the different big battles they were in, their units, weapons, gear etc.  Perhaps why they would be a better addition than another faction(or combo).  Things like that.   and if you dont get your way, dont throw a tantrum on the forums calling the devs racists.  You can even take this lesson and apply it elsewhere. 


Seeing as we are not adding a new faction, the off topic posts at the end, and the "devs are clearly racists because they wont put my faction in the game" comments, i will go ahead and lock this for now. 
Title: Re: turkish faction?
Post by: Olafson on September 21, 2018, 08:58:46 pm
Make all the new units in the same quality as the games factions, and if it is a different language, make the voice recordings too, then we can start talking about adding a new faction.