Total War General Discussion Thread: Shogun to Rome 2!

[Gaius Marius]

I'm going to play as the mighty Romans and crush anyone who stands in my way.

[Rydog]

Gonna play as the Romans and crush the Parthians and hopefully use them as Auxiliaries, something which I'm hoping RTW2 will allow

[Hugh MacKay]

Gonna go with the Romans too Then a Germanic faction afterwards

[Hinkel]

I will start with the cornelii family and will get up fast to the first empire

[Desert Thunda]

So I started reading some history books of the time period and it seems Sparta's council "voted" (I think that is the word) by shouting "Yes" or "No" and the funny thing is whoever shouted the loudest won...   

[Rejenorst]

So I started reading some history books of the time period and it seems Sparta's council "voted" (I think that is the word) by shouting "Yes" or "No" and the funny thing is whoever shouted the loudest won...   

THIS...IS....SPARTummmno council has voted. 

lol Damn those Spartans. I had to roll my eyes with the movie 300 when they spoke of freedom etc. It seemed a little corny considering Sparta had a huge slave population and treated its slaves with the utmost cruelty. Which probably sparked a few slave revolts.

[Blobmania]

There were actually only ever a maximum of around 10,000 Spartiates (Citizens and Soldiers) at any one time, and at least half of these always remained in Sparta to prevent the slaves from revolting. Personally though I almost prefer their political system to the Athenian "Democracy", which left their system far more open to corruption and demagogue rule.

Once I gather up the cash to pre-order I'll probably go Spartan.

[Desparin]

There were actually only ever a maximum of around 10,000 Spartiates (Citizens and Soldiers) at any one time, and at least half of these always remained in Sparta to prevent the slaves from revolting. Personally though I almost prefer their political system to the Athenian "Democracy", which left their system far more open to corruption and demagogue rule.

Once I gather up the cash to pre-order I'll probably go Spartan.

I believe the 10,000 Spartan citizens which made up the bulk of their armed forces were called Homoioi -  effectively "Men of equal status". They were not involved with manual labour and had the most freedom and power within the Spartan society.

Next comes the Perioikoi - they carried out the majority of tasks revolving around commerce and trade - the Homoioi were forbidden to do this too T__T

Lastly comes the Helots (poor sods). Basically enslaved populations who were tied to the land they worked by the Spartan state.

I think there were also Hypomeiones who were Homoioi who had lost their status within the society - not so sure on that last one though so may need to refresh my memory.

Then again I am recalling this from my Classical Civilisations  classes at A level so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong :3

[Desert Thunda]

What about the Epirus? I have never ever heard of them before. Not sure what is so great about them.

[Hawke]

What about the Epirus? I have never ever heard of them before. Not sure what is so great about them.

I think Pyhrrus, King of Epirus beat the Roman Army, taking heavy losses, creating what is now called a "Phyrric Victory".

[Blobmania]

Spoiler

There were actually only ever a maximum of around 10,000 Spartiates (Citizens and Soldiers) at any one time, and at least half of these always remained in Sparta to prevent the slaves from revolting. Personally though I almost prefer their political system to the Athenian "Democracy", which left their system far more open to corruption and demagogue rule.

Once I gather up the cash to pre-order I'll probably go Spartan.

I believe the 10,000 Spartan citizens which made up the bulk of their armed forces were called Homoioi -  effectively "Men of equal status". They were not involved with manual labour and had the most freedom and power within the Spartan society.

Next comes the Perioikoi - they carried out the majority of tasks revolving around commerce and trade - the Homoioi were forbidden to do this too T__T

Lastly comes the Helots (poor sods). Basically enslaved populations who were tied to the land they worked by the Spartan state.

I think there were also Hypomeiones who were Homoioi who had lost their status within the society - not so sure on that last one though so may need to refresh my memory.

Then again I am recalling this from my Classical Civilisations  classes at A level so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong :3

[close]

You're right for the most part, though there are records of Perioikoi and Helots being used as light infantry and skirmishers in battle as early as the battle of Plataea (The one after Thermopylae, seen at the end of 300). Once the Homoioi started to decline in numbers this practice was much more common.

[Desparin]

What about the Epirus? I have never ever heard of them before. Not sure what is so great about them.

I think Pyhrrus, King of Epirus beat the Roman Army, taking heavy losses, creating what is now called a "Phyrric Victory".

Random Fact - Achilleus' (less modern translation) son is called Pyhrrus (also, Neoptolemus). He ended up killing Priam as described by Aeneas in the Aeneid.

[Augy]

What about the Epirus? I have never ever heard of them before. Not sure what is so great about them.

They were a greek state that laid where Greece and Albania exist nowadays and they were a frontier of Greece, i believe Megas Alexandros mother was from Epirus.

[Desparin]

What about the Epirus? I have never ever heard of them before. Not sure what is so great about them.

They were a greek state that laid where Greece and Albania exist nowadays and they were a frontier of Greece, i believe Megas Alexandros mother was from Epirus.

That seems to ring a bell with me too

[Gaius Marius]

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