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Post by: Herishey on September 14, 2015, 11:51:16 pm
I'll shorten this now, to stop anymore issues or controversy, we left because we had an issue after the 63e match and Crumpet said if we have another issue we will leave NLC, in the 15thYR match we then had another issue (not with the regiment, but with some of the staff). So we left, ggwp.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 14, 2015, 11:53:56 pm
Considering that the Spartans cared more about Alt chat than rule breaking etc tells you a lot and then started going crazy at their members for hanging out with us.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: bobertini on September 14, 2015, 11:55:08 pm
Bye.

NLC is meh anyways.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Macca on September 14, 2015, 11:55:51 pm
NLC is meh anyways.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Dusan on September 14, 2015, 11:56:11 pm
Bye.

NLC is meh anyways.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: World_Edit_XIII on September 14, 2015, 11:56:41 pm
After reading your 'essay' about your experience with the Spartan NLC, I decided to post the 59th's point of view on this 'competition.'

The 59th Regiment of Manchester left the NLC due to our dismay at how the competition was being handled.

The Spartans have clearly fixed this competition to their benefit. So we decided to leave in a humble fashion. Yet the Spartans took it as a personal slight.

The 15YR informed us that the Spartans and Etherton were attempting to crash NWRP. Something they managed to do. I hope all regiments take note and leave this shambles.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Macca on September 14, 2015, 11:59:59 pm
So essentially, NLC is a pile of shit?
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:00:47 am
So essentially, NLC is a pile of shit?
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Fwuffy on September 15, 2015, 12:00:50 am
So essentially, NLC is a pile of shit?
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 15, 2015, 12:02:04 am
So essentially, NLC is a pile of shit?

Yeah, you get slayed for typing in alt chat.
Even typing in w gets you a slay.


But having double reggers and breaking gap rules and stuff na thats okay.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:06:11 am
And for Tyrion who thinks this is all about being mad because we lost, I really don't care. The video of them beating us will be on YouTube tomorrow, it was one of the first matches I enjoyed in a while, same for Tardet, 15thYR are better than us I already admitted that, but the way you guys run NLC is not logical at all or normal.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 15, 2015, 12:07:26 am
And for Tyrion who thinks this is all about being mad because we lost, I really don't care. The video of them beating us will be on YouTube tomorrow, it was one of the first matches I enjoyed in a while, same for Tardet, 15thYR are better than us I already admitted that, but the way you guys run NLC is not logical at all or normal.

Don't forget. Apparently the 4e are a bad influence on people.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: bobertini on September 15, 2015, 12:08:14 am
4e smell
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: 92nd_Official on September 15, 2015, 12:09:12 am
dis gunna cause Drama i bet..
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Connodd on September 15, 2015, 12:09:25 am
4e smell
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Macca on September 15, 2015, 12:09:44 am
Herishey's shit anyway.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 12:10:38 am
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Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: notmoving on September 15, 2015, 12:15:19 am
The 15YR informed us that the Spartans and Etherton were attempting to crash NWRP. Something they managed to do. I hope all regiments take note and leave this shambles.


For this "crash" issue you guys are having. I'm well aware how its being done & if you want help regarding it please contact me or dodo from beyond servers as his servers do not have this issue.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 15, 2015, 12:16:39 am
The 15YR informed us that the Spartans and Etherton were attempting to crash NWRP. Something they managed to do. I hope all regiments take note and leave this shambles.


For this "crash" issue you guys are having. I'm well aware how its being done & if you want help regarding it please contact me or dodo from beyond servers as his servers do not have this issue.

What
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Mr_Etherton on September 15, 2015, 12:16:59 am
The 15YR informed us that the Spartans and Etherton were attempting to crash NWRP. Something they managed to do. I hope all regiments take note and leave this shambles.


For this "crash" issue you guys are having. I'm well aware how its being done & if you want help regarding it please contact me or dodo from beyond servers as his servers do not have this issue.

The awkward moment when the 59th assume i crashed a server by simply joining it #LogicalThinking
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 15, 2015, 12:18:48 am
Keep this on topic
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Skyfall on September 15, 2015, 12:19:14 am
Tl;dr the screenshot was fake, i was too tired to read the whole thing, herishey will not get banned, everyone is mad and pizza with nutella is pretty good
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:20:33 am
You cant post private conversatiom you should delete it before an admin comes to slap your ass u badboy
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All too often we have seen private conversations held on Steam, IRC, other programs, private messages and boards which, find their way onto the public domain. We will no longer accept this violation of trust on our forum. If you post a chat without the consent of the other member in the chat you may be instantly muted or dealt with at a moderators discretion depending the severity of the infringement, and the post will be removed. FSE believes that snippets of a private conversation do not provide sufficient context in a discussion and can be used to mislead. Furthermore posting pictures/images of other individuals or members of the forum and or wider community without permission will not be tolerated and may result in either a mute or ban depending the severity of the infringement. 
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As I said in the post, it's a fake.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Spartan Hoplites Official on September 15, 2015, 12:22:16 am
4e lose to the 15thYR, the NLC staff find the 15thYR may of used a double regger, so we investigated and it turns out the guy came from the 51st to join the 15thYR, but without telling the 51st. So obviously we needed to check that out.

There is no solid evidence the 15thYR knowingly allowed the guy to play for them, knowing he was still in the 51st. We have spoken to Falk and Pieter and they both state they explained the rules to the guy, and he was only in there steam group and not the 51st.

So how can we punish the 15thYR, which is what the 4e was asking for?

To top it off, Herishey fakes a print screen conversation with the guy in question, and yet its our fault? Herishey I have spoken to your leader and he doesn't understand why you can accuse us either?

So top kek to the thread.

Anyone wondering just ask Falk.


Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: bobertini on September 15, 2015, 12:23:33 am
4e lose to the 15thYR, the NLC staff find the 15thYR may of used a double regger, so we investigated and it turns out the guy came from the 51st to join the 15thYR, but without telling the 51st. So obviously we needed to check that out.

There is no solid evidence the 15thYR knowingly allowed the guy to play for them, knowing he was still in the 51st. We have spoken to Falk and Pieter and they both state they explained the rules to the guy, and he was only in there steam group and not the 51st.

So how can we punish the 15thYR, which is what the 4e was asking for?

To top it off, Herishey fakes a print screen conversation with the guy in question, and yet its our fault? Herishey I have spoken to your leader and he doesn't understand why you can accuse us either?

So top kek to the thread.

Anyone wondering just ask Falk.
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Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:24:30 am
4e lose to the 15thYR, the NLC staff find the 15thYR may of used a double regger, so we investigated and it turns out the guy came from the 51st to join the 15thYR, but without telling the 51st. So obviously we needed to check that out.

There is no solid evidence the 15thYR knowingly allowed the guy to play for them, knowing he was still in the 51st. We have spoken to Falk and Pieter and they both state they explained the rules to the guy, and he was only in there steam group and not the 51st.

So how can we punish the 15thYR, which is what the 4e was asking for?

To top it off, Herishey fakes a print screen conversation with the guy in question, and yet its our fault? Herishey I have spoken to your leader and he doesn't understand why you can accuse us either?

So top kek to the thread.

Anyone wondering just ask Falk.
It already says its fake, Steam groups mean nothing, whether they explained the rules or not cannot really be proven, that is just their word against ours. 15thYR deserved their win they reall did, that shouldn't be removed from them. What should have happened is you removing a single point from their current score, to show that you will not allow rule breaks, as it cannot be proven it was intentional or not. Just like it cannot be proven if someone meant to officer aim or not.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: |Heinrich| on September 15, 2015, 12:27:12 am
The 15YR informed us that the Spartans and Etherton were attempting to crash NWRP. Something they managed to do. I hope all regiments take note and leave this shambles.


For this "crash" issue you guys are having. I'm well aware how its being done & if you want help regarding it please contact me or dodo from beyond servers as his servers do not have this issue.

The awkward moment when the 59th assume i crashed a server by simply joining it #LogicalThinking
;)
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:36:40 am
For those who took the time to read this understand that I did not mean to look 15thYR look bad if that's what it did, this is a post that I felt shows how poorly the NLC staff dealt with this issue (not all of them, only those involved).

So apologies to any 15thYR this offended, it was a really great match and you did deserve to win,I hope we can even fight against sometime, just not in the NLC.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: World_Edit_XIII on September 15, 2015, 12:39:46 am
And for Tyrion who thinks this is all about being mad because we lost, I really don't care. The video of them beating us will be on YouTube tomorrow, it was one of the first matches I enjoyed in a while, same for Tardet, 15thYR are better than us I already admitted that, but the way you guys run NLC is not logical at all or normal.

Come to mention of video, in a previous video of the NLC, you can clearly see several admining 'mistakes'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLoWQxxzaOk

just look at around 7:10 for reload out of line
or at 28:38 for calling gaps both sides, even though only one has them
or at 32:39 where both teams have to move due to camping, even though one side has only been in the same spot for about a minute, while the other has been at it's spot far longer
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tyrionpk on September 15, 2015, 12:40:39 am
No evidence the 15thYR used a double regger, other than you just accusing them?

You are just flat out calling them cheats basically with this, and then to go about accusing the Spartans of rigging the NLC, yeah...Nah.

I don't understand why your butting in anyway? Can Crumpet not deal with this himself, as the leader of the 4e? he was fine on TS and conducted himself great, and left in good terms, you where not in the convo with any of us btw, but you type like you was lol.

Are you embarrased you got caught out trying to use a fake prnt screen to take points from the 15thYR or something, so this HUGE post is a distraction?

Crumpet is not sure either how you can accuse us either..
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: CrumpetAwesome on September 15, 2015, 12:44:05 am
No evidence the 15thYR used a double regger, other than you just accusing them?

You are just flat out calling them cheats basically with this, and then to go about accusing the Spartans of rigging the NLC, yeah...Nah.

I don't understand why your butting in anyway? Can Crumpet not deal with this himself, as the leader of the 4e? he was fine on TS and conducted himself great, and left in good terms, you where not in the convo with any of us btw, but you type like you was lol.

Are you embarrased you got caught out trying to use a fake prnt screen to take points from the 15thYR or something, so this HUGE post is a distraction?

Crumpet is not sure either how you can accuse us either..

Just saying, I left on good terms yes, but the accusations I know why, simply Herisheys opinion etc.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:44:34 am
No evidence the 15thYR used a double regger, other than you just accusing them?

You are just flat out calling them cheats basically with this, and then to go about accusing the Spartans of rigging the NLC, yeah...Nah.

I don't understand why your butting in anyway? Can Crumpet not deal with this himself, as the leader of the 4e? he was fine on TS and conducted himself great, and left in good terms, you where not in the convo with any of us btw, but you type like you was lol.

Are you embarrased you got caught out trying to use a fake prnt screen to take points from the 15thYR or something, so this HUGE post is a distraction?

Crumpet is not sure either how you can accuse us either..
It seems Crumpet is giving us both different stories here, I told Crumpet and anyone I showed it from the start it was fake, just ask him, I didn't give it to you guys, he did. And it's not like I've not remained civil here. Regarding the conversation I was told things by Crumpet and Sandman and that is what I used here.

Spartans rigging the NLC I said was a theory set up by Kaide, that from this incident looks like a possibility, whether I truly believe in it as I already said I don't know. There can be no evidence they didn't either, this is my point when you can't prove either regiments side is correct, then you just follow the rules, if it was broken or not and it was. Maybe not intentionally (and I highly doubt it was intentional, but it was).
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tyrionpk on September 15, 2015, 12:45:35 am
No evidence the 15thYR used a double regger, other than you just accusing them?

You are just flat out calling them cheats basically with this, and then to go about accusing the Spartans of rigging the NLC, yeah...Nah.

I don't understand why your butting in anyway? Can Crumpet not deal with this himself, as the leader of the 4e? he was fine on TS and conducted himself great, and left in good terms, you where not in the convo with any of us btw, but you type like you was lol.

Are you embarrased you got caught out trying to use a fake prnt screen to take points from the 15thYR or something, so this HUGE post is a distraction?

Crumpet is not sure either how you can accuse us either..

Just saying, I left on good terms yes, but the accusations I know why, simply Herisheys opinion etc.

Yeah, sure it's Herisheys opinion, but considering your the leader of a regiment involved in this, and you don't have the same view, why need the need for the drama?
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Mr_Etherton on September 15, 2015, 12:46:49 am
And for Tyrion who thinks this is all about being mad because we lost, I really don't care. The video of them beating us will be on YouTube tomorrow, it was one of the first matches I enjoyed in a while, same for Tardet, 15thYR are better than us I already admitted that, but the way you guys run NLC is not logical at all or normal.

Come to mention of video, in a previous video of the NLC, you can clearly see several admining 'mistakes'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLoWQxxzaOk

just look at around 7:10 for reload out of line
or at 28:38 for calling gaps both sides, even though only one has them
or at 32:39 where both teams have to move due to camping, even though one side has only been in the same spot for about a minute, while the other has been at it's spot far longer
seems like you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to attempt to join the action #Drama
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 15, 2015, 12:47:57 am
No evidence the 15thYR used a double regger, other than you just accusing them?

You are just flat out calling them cheats basically with this, and then to go about accusing the Spartans of rigging the NLC, yeah...Nah.

I don't understand why your butting in anyway? Can Crumpet not deal with this himself, as the leader of the 4e? he was fine on TS and conducted himself great, and left in good terms, you where not in the convo with any of us btw, but you type like you was lol.

Are you embarrased you got caught out trying to use a fake prnt screen to take points from the 15thYR or something, so this HUGE post is a distraction?

Crumpet is not sure either how you can accuse us either..

Just saying, I left on good terms yes, but the accusations I know why, simply Herisheys opinion etc.

Yeah, sure it's Herisheys opinion, but considering your the leader of a regiment involved in this, and you don't have the same view, why need the need for the drama?

Because Herishey is allowed his opinion? And from the way NLC has been played you lot have managed it worse than the PR campaign for BCOF.


Also it tells you a lot about the Spartans when two spartan members have been told to stop hanging out with the 4e because we are "a bad influence" Eg you lot are just afraid that they will leave.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: bobertini on September 15, 2015, 12:49:07 am
hello guys im herishey!!11
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: CrumpetAwesome on September 15, 2015, 12:49:23 am
I don't want drama, but Herishey's was needed because it stands for why 4e left.

And I think people are taking this too far, this is hypothetical
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:50:13 am
I am told you were not involved with any of the final decisions Etherton, so again this post is not aimed at you.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Mr_Etherton on September 15, 2015, 12:52:32 am
I am told you were not involved with any of the final decisions Etherton, so again this post is not aimed at you.

ik its not dw, im laughing at it all. NW's community is lolable now
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 12:53:00 am
I am told you were not involved with any of the final decisions Etherton, so again this post is not aimed at you.

ik its not dw, im laughing at it all. NW's community is lolable now
We all know that.  ;D
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tyrionpk on September 15, 2015, 12:53:42 am
But at its core.

You are accusing the 15thYR of using a double regger?

There was no evidence for this, so we didnt punish them? then Herishey faked print screens.

GG?
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 12:54:42 am
A lot of drama about nothing
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: |Heinrich| on September 15, 2015, 12:56:26 am
A lot of drama about nothing
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Murphy on September 15, 2015, 12:57:16 am
A lot of drama about nothing

You've left the league, fair enough. It's a great loss, as I was looking forward to being thumped by the 4e. There is however no need to plaster your reasoning all over the forums in an apparent attempt to slander those involved.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Obelix on September 15, 2015, 12:58:12 am
Indeed - The Keyboard-Warrior-Wars have started..
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Kore on September 15, 2015, 12:58:25 am
NLC is shit and I am a troll deal with it :))))
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tyrionpk on September 15, 2015, 12:58:43 am
A lot of drama about nothing

Exactly! Herishey faking prnt screens to get the 15th to lose points is embarrassing, why make a huge thread about it?


If it's about the NLC in general, I have not reffed a game myself, but we have Refs from all different regiments, and the refs are people, they make mistakes, get over it.

To make conspiracy theories the Spartans are trying to finish top 3 is a bit desperate lol.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 01:00:02 am
Imagine NWL drama with 40+ regiments. Need an army of moderators
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Kore on September 15, 2015, 01:01:01 am
A lot of drama about nothing

Exactly! Herishey faking prnt screens to get the 15th to lose points is embarrassing, why make a huge thread about it?


If it's about the NLC in general, I have not reffed a game myself, but we have Refs from all different regiments, and the refs are people, they make mistakes, get over it.

To make conspiracy theories the Spartans are trying to finish top 3 is a bit desperate lol.
Every regiment is trying to finish in top 3 xdd
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: pieter on September 15, 2015, 01:01:53 am
Its sad to see such a skilled regiment leave the NLC but one point I do want to clearify, Python a new guy who added me on steam asked me if he could join the 15th_YR for these kind of situations I go thro a checklist including Melee skill, age and if the person is in a regiment.
At the end of this checklist I will have a look if the person can join in or not.
Python stated to me he left the 51st as prove he gave me to check his steamgroups to ensure me he was not going to double reg.
I trusted Python on this and so made him a new recruit in the 15th_YR.
''When Falk saw the evidence he said that he didn't know that using double-reggers wasn't allowed, which is clearly a lie since they have been caught and punished for using double-reggers before in RGL. Since Falk "didn't know" the NLC were going to do nothing about the match and just leave it as it is with no punishment other than banning that single player, who probably actually himself did not know about this rule.''
Now this is where it gets interesting for me, Falk himself is well aware of the rules of the NLC and all other Tournaments so Falk and I always keep a close eye on our members and always make them aware that double regging is not allowed as it could lead to serious problems in the tournaments we are participating.
but offcourse Herishey you have to make it look like we allow double reggers and like to cheat our way thro league matches... Even tho this is not the case.
Also you making fake evidence to see if we would have been punished is even more sad, I mean really man how low can you go.  :-\
But I guess your intention for this thread is not really to clarify why the 4e left NLC it seems more the case that you intend to insult a regiment (15th_YR) and to make them look bad.

#DramaIntesifies

Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: World_Edit_XIII on September 15, 2015, 01:02:05 am
So I decided to join the Spartan TS to ask them thier personal opinion about this. Just sat in the Lobby for a minute and was banned without any prior contact.

Then I talked to a firend of mine and he joined with the #Unban_World name to their TS. Guess what happend...

<00:54:17> "#Unban_World": <17:54:06> Connected to Server: "The Two Banners - Spartans & 78th"
<17:54:06> insufficient client permissions (failed on i_client_max_channel_subscriptions)
<17:54:12> You were banned permanently from the server by "Tyrion" (Cronie of kaide, never unban)
<00:54:40> "#Unban_World": erm
<00:54:41> "#Unban_World": idk
<00:55:25> "#World_Edit_XIII": can I use this for FSE?
<00:55:31> "#Unban_World": Yes

Atleast it shows that the Spartans can't be talked to when it comes to reasoning.

Fun Fact: My friend is not even in the 59th, gg.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tyrionpk on September 15, 2015, 01:03:26 am
A lot of drama about nothing

Exactly! Herishey faking prnt screens to get the 15th to lose points is embarrassing, why make a huge thread about it?


If it's about the NLC in general, I have not reffed a game myself, but we have Refs from all different regiments, and the refs are people, they make mistakes, get over it.

To make conspiracy theories the Spartans are trying to finish top 3 is a bit desperate lol.
Every regiment is trying to finish in top 3 xdd

I meant finishing top 3 by illegal means  :-*
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tharan on September 15, 2015, 01:05:11 am
Its sad to see such a skilled regiment leave the NLC but one point I do want to clearify, Python a new guy who added me on steam asked me if he could join the 15th_YR for these kind of situations I go thro a checklist including Melee skill, age and if the person is in a regiment.
At the end of this checklist I will have a look if the person can join in or not.
Python stated to me he left the 51st as prove he gave me to check his steamgroups to ensure me he was not going to double reg.
I trusted Python on this and so made him a new recruit in the 15th_YR.
''When Falk saw the evidence he said that he didn't know that using double-reggers wasn't allowed, which is clearly a lie since they have been caught and punished for using double-reggers before in RGL. Since Falk "didn't know" the NLC were going to do nothing about the match and just leave it as it is with no punishment other than banning that single player, who probably actually himself did not know about this rule.''
Now this is where it gets interesting for me, Falk himself is well aware of the rules of the NLC and all other Tournaments so Falk and I always keep a close eye on our members and always make them aware that double regging is not allowed as it could lead to serious problems in the tournaments we are participating.
but offcourse Herishey you have to make it look like we allow double reggers and like to cheat our way thro league matches... Even tho this is not the case.
Also you making fake evidence to see if we would have been punished is even more sad, I mean really man how low can you go.  :-\
But I guess your intention for this thread is not really to clarify why the 4e left NLC it seems more the case that you intend to insult a regiment (15th_YR) and to make them look bad.

#DramaIntesifies

No, non of us have anything against the 15yr
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 01:06:09 am
Indeed - The Keyboard-Warrior-Wars have started..
Funny coming from you.

But at its core.

You are accusing the 15thYR of using a double regger?

There was no evidence for this, so we didnt punish them? then Herishey faked print screens.

GG?
There was evidence, the double regger was even found and named. 15th_YR I'm sure didn't know but how can we prove that, we can't prove they did or didn't just like any other rule. And as I said the fake was an example of how easy it is to fake these things, as I keep saying I stated it was fake from when I made them, to everyone I gave them to. If someone else handed them out and didn't say that's not my fault now is it.

About the theory as I said it's all hypothetical, I didn't even make it up (as you know), and as I've already said I don't know whether it's true or not, I just through everything I've heard into one post to state why we left. This isn't even a go at the refs, it's a go at some of the head staff.

Its sad to see such a skilled regiment leave the NLC but one point I do want to clearify, Python a new guy who added me on steam asked me if he could join the 15th_YR for these kind of situations I go thro a checklist including Melee skill, age and if the person is in a regiment.
At the end of this checklist I will have a look if the person can join in or not.
Python stated to me he left the 51st as prove he gave me to check his steamgroups to ensure me he was not going to double reg.
I trusted Python on this and so made him a new recruit in the 15th_YR.
''When Falk saw the evidence he said that he didn't know that using double-reggers wasn't allowed, which is clearly a lie since they have been caught and punished for using double-reggers before in RGL. Since Falk "didn't know" the NLC were going to do nothing about the match and just leave it as it is with no punishment other than banning that single player, who probably actually himself did not know about this rule.''
Now this is where it gets interesting for me, Falk himself is well aware of the rules of the NLC and all other Tournaments so Falk and I always keep a close eye on our members and always make them aware that double regging is not allowed as it could lead to serious problems in the tournaments we are participating.
but offcourse Herishey you have to make it look like we allow double reggers and like to cheat our way thro league matches... Even tho this is not the case.
Also you making fake evidence to see if we would have been punished is even more sad, I mean really man how low can you go.  :-\
But I guess your intention for this thread is not really to clarify why the 4e left NLC it seems more the case that you intend to insult a regiment (15th_YR) and to make them look bad.

#DramaIntesifies


Hey Pieter, I've already had a long conversation with Falk and we are on good terms now, he understands exactly what I meant and I understand how you will have issues with that and we worked together to make the post more fair and its reasoning clearer, I will have the same talk with you on Steam if you want to. You probably don't want to but as I did for Falk I want to explain how this wasn't aimed to make the 15thYR look bad at all, and if it did it was accidental. I won't bother explaining the fake thing for a 10th time here, but if you wish on Steam I shall. I just hope we can clear things up like Falk and I did.

Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Obelix on September 15, 2015, 01:07:29 am
So I decided to join the Spartan TS to ask them thier personal opinion about this. Just sat in the Lobby for a minute and was banned without any prior contact.

Then I talked to a firend of mine and he joined with the #Unban_World name to their TS. Guess what happend...

<00:54:17> "#Unban_World": <17:54:06> Connected to Server: "The Two Banners - Spartans & 78th"
<17:54:06> insufficient client permissions (failed on i_client_max_channel_subscriptions)
<17:54:12> You were banned permanently from the server by "Tyrion" (Cronie of kaide, never unban)
<00:54:40> "#Unban_World": erm
<00:54:41> "#Unban_World": idk
<00:55:25> "#World_Edit_XIII": can I use this for FSE?
<00:55:31> "#Unban_World": Yes

Atleast it shows that the Spartans can't be talked to when it comes to reasoning.

Fun Fact: My friend is not even in the 59th, gg.

Known fact that Spartans dont allow Trolls in Thier Teamspeak..
Clearly you are only trying to make things worse.. sadly you failed..
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 01:08:24 am
So I decided to join the Spartan TS to ask them thier personal opinion about this. Just sat in the Lobby for a minute and was banned without any prior contact.

Then I talked to a firend of mine and he joined with the #Unban_World name to their TS. Guess what happend...

<00:54:17> "#Unban_World": <17:54:06> Connected to Server: "The Two Banners - Spartans & 78th"
<17:54:06> insufficient client permissions (failed on i_client_max_channel_subscriptions)
<17:54:12> You were banned permanently from the server by "Tyrion" (Cronie of kaide, never unban)
<00:54:40> "#Unban_World": erm
<00:54:41> "#Unban_World": idk
<00:55:25> "#World_Edit_XIII": can I use this for FSE?
<00:55:31> "#Unban_World": Yes

Atleast it shows that the Spartans can't be talked to when it comes to reasoning.

Fun Fact: My friend is not even in the 59th, gg.

They know you are 59th and have banned you for that it seems, purely regimental politics. Also having someone join with #Unban_World is just asking for a ban. Please stop coming up with all kinds of different reasons why we should hate one another. Move on with your life.

Also  "Can't be talked to when it comes to reasoning" brings back fresh memories about how you shamelessly copied Minisiege but that's all been solved so let's not start talking about that :)

Drama continues
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Kore on September 15, 2015, 01:11:21 am
I find it ridiculous, this community. And how much butthurt can someone be. ::)
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Tyrionpk on September 15, 2015, 01:12:07 am
Indeed - The Keyboard-Warrior-Wars have started..
Funny coming from you.

But at its core.

You are accusing the 15thYR of using a double regger?

There was no evidence for this, so we didnt punish them? then Herishey faked print screens.

GG?
There was evidence, the double regger was even found and named. 15th_YR I'm sure didn't know but how can we prove that, we can't prove they did or didn't just like any other rule. And as I said the fake was an example of how easy it is to fake these things, as I keep saying I stated it was fake from when I made them, to everyone I gave them to. If someone else handed them out and didn't say that's not my fault now is it.

About the theory as I said it's all hypothetical, I didn't even make it up (as you know), and as I've already said I don't know whether it's true or not, I just through everything I've heard into one post to state why we left. This isn't even a go at the refs, it's a go at some of the head staff.

Crumpet used the image in his convo with us, he didn't know they where fake as he presented them as evidence against the 15th lol, When we said nothing was happening  until we speak to Python ourselves, then after speaking to you again, Crumpet didnt want to chase this futher anymore. lol
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: pieter on September 15, 2015, 01:12:43 am
Its sad to see such a skilled regiment leave the NLC but one point I do want to clearify, Python a new guy who added me on steam asked me if he could join the 15th_YR for these kind of situations I go thro a checklist including Melee skill, age and if the person is in a regiment.
At the end of this checklist I will have a look if the person can join in or not.
Python stated to me he left the 51st as prove he gave me to check his steamgroups to ensure me he was not going to double reg.
I trusted Python on this and so made him a new recruit in the 15th_YR.
''When Falk saw the evidence he said that he didn't know that using double-reggers wasn't allowed, which is clearly a lie since they have been caught and punished for using double-reggers before in RGL. Since Falk "didn't know" the NLC were going to do nothing about the match and just leave it as it is with no punishment other than banning that single player, who probably actually himself did not know about this rule.''
Now this is where it gets interesting for me, Falk himself is well aware of the rules of the NLC and all other Tournaments so Falk and I always keep a close eye on our members and always make them aware that double regging is not allowed as it could lead to serious problems in the tournaments we are participating.
but offcourse Herishey you have to make it look like we allow double reggers and like to cheat our way thro league matches... Even tho this is not the case.
Also you making fake evidence to see if we would have been punished is even more sad, I mean really man how low can you go.  :-\
But I guess your intention for this thread is not really to clarify why the 4e left NLC it seems more the case that you intend to insult a regiment (15th_YR) and to make them look bad.

#DramaIntesifies


Hey Pieter, I've already had a long conversation with Falk and we are on good terms now, he understands exactly what I meant and I understand how you will have issues with that and we worked together to make the post more fair and its reasoning clearer, I will have the same talk with you on Steam if you want to. You probably don't want to but as I did for Falk I want to explain how this wasn't aimed to make the 15thYR look bad at all, and if it did it was accidental. I won't bother explaining the fake thing for a 10th time here, but if you wish on Steam I shall. I just hope we can clear things up like Falk and I did.
[/quote]

seems that we have a different opinion about ''good terms''
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 01:14:38 am
Its sad to see such a skilled regiment leave the NLC but one point I do want to clearify, Python a new guy who added me on steam asked me if he could join the 15th_YR for these kind of situations I go thro a checklist including Melee skill, age and if the person is in a regiment.
At the end of this checklist I will have a look if the person can join in or not.
Python stated to me he left the 51st as prove he gave me to check his steamgroups to ensure me he was not going to double reg.
I trusted Python on this and so made him a new recruit in the 15th_YR.
''When Falk saw the evidence he said that he didn't know that using double-reggers wasn't allowed, which is clearly a lie since they have been caught and punished for using double-reggers before in RGL. Since Falk "didn't know" the NLC were going to do nothing about the match and just leave it as it is with no punishment other than banning that single player, who probably actually himself did not know about this rule.''
Now this is where it gets interesting for me, Falk himself is well aware of the rules of the NLC and all other Tournaments so Falk and I always keep a close eye on our members and always make them aware that double regging is not allowed as it could lead to serious problems in the tournaments we are participating.
but offcourse Herishey you have to make it look like we allow double reggers and like to cheat our way thro league matches... Even tho this is not the case.
Also you making fake evidence to see if we would have been punished is even more sad, I mean really man how low can you go.  :-\
But I guess your intention for this thread is not really to clarify why the 4e left NLC it seems more the case that you intend to insult a regiment (15th_YR) and to make them look bad.

#DramaIntesifies


Hey Pieter, I've already had a long conversation with Falk and we are on good terms now, he understands exactly what I meant and I understand how you will have issues with that and we worked together to make the post more fair and its reasoning clearer, I will have the same talk with you on Steam if you want to. You probably don't want to but as I did for Falk I want to explain how this wasn't aimed to make the 15thYR look bad at all, and if it did it was accidental. I won't bother explaining the fake thing for a 10th time here, but if you wish on Steam I shall. I just hope we can clear things up like Falk and I did.

seems that we have a different opinion about ''good terms''
[/quote]

You can't end a quote without starting one #FSEscrub (pls no ban)
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: pieter on September 15, 2015, 01:18:00 am
RIP
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 15, 2015, 01:18:26 am
Lets All Just be Friendly and Cuddle (https://i.imgur.com/Gu3oKuf.png)
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 01:18:50 am
RIP

See, easy
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Kore on September 15, 2015, 01:18:57 am
Lets All Just be Friendly and Cuddle (https://i.imgur.com/Gu3oKuf.png)
Not in EU community.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Herishey on September 15, 2015, 01:19:20 am
Maybe not good terms but we understand each-other now Pieter, which is at least reasonable.
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: notmoving on September 15, 2015, 01:20:00 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 01:20:59 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

My ringtone
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 15, 2015, 01:21:34 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

My ringtone
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Fwuffy on September 15, 2015, 01:22:15 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

My ringtone
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: Mr_Etherton on September 15, 2015, 01:26:35 am
#Drama
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: |Heinrich| on September 15, 2015, 01:26:49 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

My ringtone
Title: Re: Why 4e Left the NLC
Post by: MrSt3fan on September 15, 2015, 01:32:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxr2PJ06Y4

My ringtone

Everytime I get a call I just have to sing along, let it go brings out so much emotion.. I just have to sing