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Title: Hearthstone
Post by: Death by EMP on January 24, 2014, 01:31:08 am
Hearthstone is finally open to the public (fucking finally );) http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/

For those who are uninformed, Hearthstone is an online TCG based around the World of Warcraft universe. I prefer Scrolls to it, but it is still very good, and F2p, unlike Scrolls. Definitely worth a try!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windbusche on January 24, 2014, 02:34:03 am
Lovelovelovelovelove this game.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Death by EMP on January 24, 2014, 04:07:40 am
Lovelovelovelovelove this game.
I'd offer to duel you but I deleted you since you never play anything.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windbusche on January 24, 2014, 10:05:43 pm
So you say.

I play a Paladin deck. You wouldn't stand a chance. Had my Fordring since they released all the class legendaries.  :-*
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on May 26, 2014, 08:48:18 am
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJs5_s0Fsbs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 27, 2014, 02:55:26 am
Liam McIntyre (guy who played Spartacus) plays this game. I would play it on the off chance i could run into him in-game
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windbusche on May 27, 2014, 06:25:04 am
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJs5_s0Fsbs[/youtube]
That was amazing.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on June 30, 2014, 10:00:03 am
god this game is addicting
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on July 08, 2014, 02:54:29 pm
I'm 3-0 with Grimsigit. 1v1 me kid at hearth
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Nipplestockings on July 08, 2014, 03:18:48 pm
So how true is this to the Warcraft universe? I played WoW and WC3 religiously back in the day and I'd love to get into another game that follows the same lore format.

Looks great though, saw some streams of it (Cranch) and I'm pretty much sold on it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on July 08, 2014, 03:23:30 pm
So how true is this to the Warcraft universe? I played WoW and WC3 religiously back in the day and I'd love to get into another game that follows the same lore format.

Looks great though, saw some streams of it (Cranch) and I'm pretty much sold on it.
pretty easy game to get into. feel free to add me if you want to play like a casual match or two IGN- Marth #1812

#war of 1812
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Death by EMP on July 08, 2014, 04:04:40 pm
Nipplestockings only wants to play it because he seen me fuck some scrubs up in Arena.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Nipplestockings on July 14, 2014, 11:15:03 pm
Just started playing it. fun fun fun
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 26, 2015, 12:41:45 pm
3-1 with grim, pyro blast OP
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 27, 2015, 02:05:41 am
I was about to make this thread, glad there's already one, sad that it's not active. Let's make it active, Coco.

I got a couple packs of TGT (w/ gold) and I can only say I'm happy with my Paladin cards I got (that go perfect with my pre-existing Pally deck) and the Totem Golem which is one of the cards I've been really excited about.

Feel free to PM for my Battle.net ID, I'd love to play some games for fun.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 27, 2015, 02:54:05 am
I was about to make this thread, glad there's already one, sad that it's not active. Let's make it active, Coco.

I got a couple packs of TGT (w/ gold) and I can only say I'm happy with my Paladin cards I got (that go perfect with my pre-existing Pally deck) and the Totem Golem which is one of the cards I've been really excited about.

Feel free to PM for my Battle.net ID, I'd love to play some games for fun.
Here's my luckiest pack that I've opened, i came with the 60 pack pre order
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/mam1AWd.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 27, 2015, 03:03:48 am
Damn. Varian is inherently fantastic but coupled with cards like Chillmaw you can get some ridiculous board control and really pressure with that deathrattle (big game is 3 health, right?). I think Varian alone is worth it to try out dragon decks again, especially if "directly" into the battlefield means no battlecry. For instance: play Varian Wrynn, summon Deathwing, Nozdormu, and Chillmaw. Even if you get something like Alexstrasza out and don't get to set them down to 15 or you up to 15 (if they have less than 15 and you have more than 15 it would be better to pick you anyway), you would probably have lethal with 7+12+8+8, and at that point 15 seconds with Nozdormu might actually pay off (even though it never does ever). If the battlecries DO work then it would be terrible to A) play Onyxia first or B) play Deathwing last, but it would still be cool to see if not.

My best pack luck is probably getting gold Tirion Fordring and a Deathwing, but I don't think they were the same pack, I just know they were within a few days of each other and within the first few packs I got.

EDIT: Oh shit, I just realized Chillmaw's ability is a deathrattle. Damn son.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 27, 2015, 10:56:08 am
Damn. Varian is inherently fantastic but coupled with cards like Chillmaw you can get some ridiculous board control and really pressure with that deathrattle (big game is 3 health, right?). I think Varian alone is worth it to try out dragon decks again, especially if "directly" into the battlefield means no battlecry. For instance: play Varian Wrynn, summon Deathwing, Nozdormu, and Chillmaw. Even if you get something like Alexstrasza out and don't get to set them down to 15 or you up to 15 (if they have less than 15 and you have more than 15 it would be better to pick you anyway), you would probably have lethal with 7+12+8+8, and at that point 15 seconds with Nozdormu might actually pay off (even though it never does ever). If the battlecries DO work then it would be terrible to A) play Onyxia first or B) play Deathwing last, but it would still be cool to see if not.

My best pack luck is probably getting gold Tirion Fordring and a Deathwing, but I don't think they were the same pack, I just know they were within a few days of each other and within the first few packs I got.

EDIT: Oh shit, I just realized Chillmaw's ability is a deathrattle. Damn son.
gold tirion;///// i want

but i think varian is pretty shit, i played him and a drew 2 weapons..
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 27, 2015, 04:43:53 pm
Yeah, you're going to need a deck kinda revolved around him, which is why I think he's so balanced, but still good. Best case scenario, you get a 7/7 and three good minions instantly played. Worst case scenario, you get a 7/7 and get three weapons or something.

Personally I haven't put any money into HS yet but since I've gotten better as a player at it, recently in particular, I'm going to buy Naxxramas soon, namely for those cards like Spectral Spider, Nerubian Egg, Shade of Naxxramas, Kel'Thuzad, Sludge Belcher, etc. Basically the cards that make me think HS is pay to win (because on the ranked ladder I do well until I get put against Naxx/BRM cards). I really want some of the Blackrock cards, too, but namely just Thaurissan for the combos so I might just pay an extra two dollars more than what it would be worth in the full adventure for just the first wing. Not totally decided on that yet.

What's your Battle.net, Coco?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Marceaux on August 27, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
I love hearthstone, played it back when it was beta or something. Great card game and VERY easy to get into and understand.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 29, 2015, 05:13:53 am
Yeah, you're going to need a deck kinda revolved around him, which is why I think he's so balanced, but still good. Best case scenario, you get a 7/7 and three good minions instantly played. Worst case scenario, you get a 7/7 and get three weapons or something.

Personally I haven't put any money into HS yet but since I've gotten better as a player at it, recently in particular, I'm going to buy Naxxramas soon, namely for those cards like Spectral Spider, Nerubian Egg, Shade of Naxxramas, Kel'Thuzad, Sludge Belcher, etc. Basically the cards that make me think HS is pay to win (because on the ranked ladder I do well until I get put against Naxx/BRM cards). I really want some of the Blackrock cards, too, but namely just Thaurissan for the combos so I might just pay an extra two dollars more than what it would be worth in the full adventure for just the first wing. Not totally decided on that yet.

What's your Battle.net, Coco?
Yeah, naxx is a must have if you want to get past rank 10. Blackrock mountian not much so unless you want to play patron warrior

my battlenet is Marth #1812
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 29, 2015, 08:07:10 pm
Yeah, I bought Naxx and it really pushed up my constructed game. I'm running a Shaman deck which is apparently very similar to a very commonly used one. Blackrock is decent, if you want cards like:

-Imp Gang Boss (Zoolock ftw)
-Grim Patron (cheap warrior wins tho)
-Thaurissan (which I do want)
-Flame Druid (for certain combos, it's basically a far cheaper Stormwind Knight+Crazed Alchemist/Inner Fire combo when given charge)
-Chromaggus (often for those mill decks to make sure you don't run out first)
-Drakonid Crusher (for certain decks, usually it's kinda trash but a 6/6 for 6 still isn't terrible when you have the potential to get a 9/9 mid/late game instead for the same mana price)
-and Nefarian has his uses in certain builds but eh

$7 or whatever just for Thaurissan and Grim (and Gang Up for Coldlight Oracle I guess) is pretty steep though, given I'd still rather pay roughly that for GvG packs to get another several more shots at getting Dr. Boom.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 30, 2015, 05:58:12 am
Yeah, I bought Naxx and it really pushed up my constructed game. I'm running a Shaman deck which is apparently very similar to a very commonly used one. Blackrock is decent, if you want cards like:

-Imp Gang Boss (Zoolock ftw)
-Grim Patron (cheap warrior wins tho)
-Thaurissan (which I do want)
-Flame Druid (for certain combos, it's basically a far cheaper Stormwind Knight+Crazed Alchemist/Inner Fire combo when given charge)
-Chromaggus (often for those mill decks to make sure you don't run out first)
-Drakonid Crusher (for certain decks, usually it's kinda trash but a 6/6 for 6 still isn't terrible when you have the potential to get a 9/9 mid/late game instead for the same mana price)
-and Nefarian has his uses in certain builds but eh

$7 or whatever just for Thaurissan and Grim (and Gang Up for Coldlight Oracle I guess) is pretty steep though, given I'd still rather pay roughly that for GvG packs to get another several more shots at getting Dr. Boom.
those top 3 are decent, the bottom 3 are trash.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on August 30, 2015, 07:19:32 am
YOU PAY TO WINNERS ARE NO MATCH FOR MY PALADIN DECK
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 31, 2015, 01:10:21 pm
YOU PAY TO WINNERS ARE NO MATCH FOR MY PALADIN DECK
<3
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 31, 2015, 07:14:33 pm
The bottom three only work for certain decks, I've seen Drakonid work in some Warlocks oddly enough and some Mages with all of their Fireballs and Pyroblasts. A 9/9 that's easy to get out with other stuff late game can be really big. Also Grim Patron is a cheap and rarely super effective play unless you're Th3Rat. He in general has a lot of luck with it and is easily one of the best warrior players in constructed (at least by ranking), and any other player who tries to do it 100% of the time seems to fall short in comparison. He has some great plays to show just how strong his deck can be in this video, even though he loses the match. Sort of.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr8jfkbqD1c
[close]

Idk, maybe he could have pulled it off with a kill to Mal'ganis and Void but if I remember the video right he was out of charges so his Grim Patrons were extremely less useful. He could have potentially spammed his Patrons against the Dreadsteeds for a seemingly infinite amount of 3/3 ones, but it probably would have been to close to call. Still, a cool match with some cool plays.

YOU PAY TO WINNERS ARE NO MATCH FOR MY PALADIN DECK

Does it have Tirion Fordring, Call to Muster, Warhorse Trainer, Silver Hand Regent, and Bolvar Fordragon? Then GET OUT!

jk this board needs posters.

everytime i post on here i dont expect to be typing paragraphs and then i do.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on August 31, 2015, 09:14:28 pm
TIRION IS BAE AND MURLOCK KNIGHT IS THE BEST CARD IN GAME
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 31, 2015, 10:01:20 pm
I have Golden Tirion. ::) Murloc Knight is shit unless you're playing specifically Murlocadin which still fuck you

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/18704974923#1
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Wastee on September 03, 2015, 10:14:36 pm
I've opened 3 legends. Tirion, The Beast, and the other paladin Fordringer one. Scrapped The Beast and Fordringer for Ysera

#nopay2win
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 03, 2015, 11:19:57 pm
Bolvar + Beast = Ysera isn't terrible at all. I'm currently just grinding for packs in arena and getting gold to do more arena from constructed so I can't get Dr. Boom, after that Ysera is probably my next big crafting item, probably.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on September 04, 2015, 04:44:12 pm
Murlock knight is great, for six mana you get murlock knight a dude and a random murlock, which in the worst case would be a 2-1, but there is a good chance of getting a legendary murlock or another murlock knight. It works great with mid range pali
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 05, 2015, 01:23:17 am
My negro Phil at work keeps bugging me to play this game

I don't take orders from Phil
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 05, 2015, 03:36:26 am
Play it.

Murloc Knight is good, I'm just fucking around. It's so good in fact that I'm betting on buying TGT packs for chances to roll extras of it (it's a common so it'll be easy to get) and holding onto them for a potential nerf to disenchant them then. However, if I happen to get that new shitty Shaman legendary, I'm definitely going to scrap it for something else immediately. Fuck that disappointing shit.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 06, 2015, 06:21:50 am
I caved and bought a load of packs today. Got Hogger and Leeroy Jenkins, doubled my amounts of rares and epics, and got a good amount of new commons and managed to get enough dust from those packs alone to craft Dr. Boom. Now to pour more money in and get some TGT packs until I get Dreadsteed and Justicar Trueheart.  ::)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on September 06, 2015, 11:05:47 am
Ew, pour money into Hearthstone EW.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 06, 2015, 07:26:23 pm
look at ur swede self and tell me that again
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on September 07, 2015, 03:15:48 am
Pow, right in the kisser?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 07, 2015, 03:34:26 am
I remember when I played Yu-Gi-Oh ... kinda
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Marceaux on September 10, 2015, 05:29:21 pm
I remember when I played Yu-Gi-Oh ... kinda

I played competitive Yu-Gi-Oh few years back, played in a few regional events etc. Great card game regardless of what people say.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 13, 2015, 08:43:57 pm
Agreed, but it doesn't seem as popular as Magic in hindsight. Locally at least, basically no one played Magic, it was just Yu-Gi-Oh. However a lot of great Hearthstone players found their card-game routes in Magic, not usually Yu-Gi-Oh. But those little things in Yu-Gi-Oh like Exodia, Cyber-Stein, and so on were really neat. It was pretty cool back in the day to see decks made just out of kids' obsessions with certain cards, which is very different than something like "professional" Yu-Gi-Oh or Hearthstone where decks have to be very specific and constructed. That's sort of what I dislike about Hearthstone, that you basically need to get cards X, Y, and Z, and make a deck exactly like others that already do well in order to do well.

Nothing beats this, though, from Magic: The Gathering...

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abugames.com%2Fmtg-strategy%2Fpictures%2Fugl%2Fbfmleft.jpg&hash=2609a1567405a33365c03c5d1f791c20525175f1)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abugames.com%2Fmtg-strategy%2Fpictures%2Fugl%2Fbfmright.jpg&hash=68c65582bcbd85f9c8339b66ceef352daf2023e4)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 13, 2015, 09:02:56 pm
Yeah of course it's a fun game, but this motherfucker was the worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 13, 2015, 09:04:38 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 13, 2015, 09:25:43 pm
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o
[close]
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 14, 2015, 04:28:46 am
There's a lot of Exodia-draw type strategies in HS, it's actually really fucking nuts.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 14, 2015, 04:33:07 am
I always have downloading Hearthstone in the back of my mind, just too lazy or something else pops up most of the time. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 14, 2015, 05:24:01 am
It's kind of a pain if you don't play enough to earn the gold for new cards. Basically you'll be playing ranked constructed until you earn gold from quests (I only complete quests that give 60-100 gold, or a card pack). If you get good at arena, which is very different altogether now and is usually impossible to do well in unless you can get a good draft with Paladin, you can get way ahead and end up paying for the solo adventures (you get special cards for beating those) with gold alone.

Nowadays I basically log on to check my quests, get rid of any 40 gold ones, play until I can complete some, and make sure I have 1-2 slots open for more quests tomorrow. It's basically like dailies in WoW. Now and again I'll enter the arena but I just get absolutely fucking terrible luck in card drafts on a constant basis. I'm on a Paladin draft at the moment (first one in the past five or so) and the best two cards I have are Muster for Battle and Dr. Boom, who isn't even that great in arena anyway. Doing this I can get about 5-10 packs a week if I play consistently and get lucky with quest rewards. Every now and again, you get lucky in the pack openings, and get some amazing fucking shit.

There's basically two ways to play entering Hearthstone in its current state: play it with a casual mindset and just have fun enjoying the amazing shit that'll happen or put some money down like you would any other game (basically turning a free game into a $60 one) to get a head start into the competitive side, which can be equally if not way more bat shit great. Can't remember what it was, and it would probably make no sense anyway, but just today I had something incredible happened that got me a win. You can also just buy Naxxramas for $25 and be more or less set with the cards in that. The solo adventures are kind of designed to do that, only in Blackrock Mountain you basically get the only two cards of major significant value in the first fifth of the fucking thing.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 17, 2015, 01:23:01 am
I got it and beat the first part, I'm just playing around with the AI right now until I unlock all of the peeps, I don't plan to spend money on it though I'm probably going to try an play Paladin from now on, though a lot of others seem better than him.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 17, 2015, 03:21:07 am
Paladin is best arena, due to some serious balancing issues involving card rarity, which impacts the likeliness of a card being available during card draft. Basically, Paladin has a ton of cards that are super good and pretty easy to get, insuring you'll probably go into arena as Paladin with at least a few great cards.

As for constructed, what the sane players play, it really comes down to anything and personal choice is most often impacted at early by card availability. I remember I first played Shaman regularly, but when I got golden Tirion Fordring and some other neat shit I played Paladin just about exclusively for a long while.

I definitely became a better constructed player after buying Naxxramas though, which was about 2-3 days worth of some serious enjoyment, and I haven't even done all of the bonus stuff yet. The cards in that are just so good that after finishing that fun as hell adventure you instantly get back into multiplayer with way more options as far as deck creation.

Unrelated, I think I'm turning into the official FSE Hearthstone player, which is funny because I'm not even that great. I played with/against Orcaryo the other day, it would be cool to see more people from this community playing it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 17, 2015, 04:05:55 am
Thanks for responding to my sentences in long paragraphs that are very informational, some of the lingo I don't really know but I'll learn
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 17, 2015, 05:14:59 am
Lel. No problem. Basically,

Constructed = Ranked and casual play, but mostly just ranked. Casual is usually where decks are tested and tried in. You'll also see a lot of beginners playing there. It's best to start playing Ranked as soon as possible, though, so you can at least get to rank 20. You can't go lower in the ladder once you reach 20, and you start at 25. Getting to rank 20 in a season gives you like a card back or something, and the highest rank you get in a season gives you better prizes. I think it's always golden cards, improved in rarity every 5 ranks, and additionally a little bit more dust every individual rank. Dust is what's used to craft cards.

Arena = Waaaay different and more complicated than constructed. You have to pay 150 gold (or like $1.50) to get in, but the first one is free so it's definitely worth doing for the free rewards you get just for losing participating. Basically, you get a choice of three random classes from the nine total, and from there you get to pick one card out of three of the same rarity (common, rare, epic, legendary), and you pick 30 in total. Obviously, the rarer cards are, the less likely you are to get to draft them. It gets really complicated because not only do you have to worry about the draft (you picking your cards), which includes balancing minions/spells based on your hero, making sure your mana curve is really flexible, and ensuring you'll have the best play available for every turn, but you also have to make sure your deck is more or less ready for the different levels of arena. There's a maximum of 12 wins in a single arena run, and it ends immediately after your third loss. Obviously, the rewards at 12 wins are higher than the rewards at say, 4. So you have to end up worrying about 1) getting a good hero for arena, 2) getting a good draft that doesn't fall short against the lower-leveled zoo decks (basically tons of minion spam) while managing to hold up later against the much better/luckier decks/players, and 3) making sure you're not wasting turns wherever possible by always playing something that gives you the advantage/board control/pressure on opponent.

It sounds way more complicated than it needs to be, and that's because it is, but it's not that tricky when you get into it. Some people just about exclusively play arena. After I think 4 wins, you have a 100% chance to get enough gold for another arena run, so people who go 12-wins several times in a few runs can easily afford more arena and more packs. If you want to get good cards and be a good player, go for arena, but make sure you know what you're doing beforehand. From experience, I can tell you, a bunch of 0-3's, 1-3's, 2-3's, and 3-3's are not worth the potential many packs that cost about the same when you so crucially need them for constructed.

Also: if you don't want to put any money in, I'd recommend dusting/disenchanting golden cards that are often viewed as unusable trash. You get more dust for disenchanting a golden card than its regular counterpart, but the amount to disenchant a golden card is always equal to the amount of dust it takes to craft the regular counterpart. Basically, you can't disenchant a golden card, craft its regular version, and then have more dust from before you started.

^This way you can bypass any shitty luck and get super important cards like Dr. Boom, Sylvanas Windrunner, and Alexstrasza. They're very good for most builds, particularly the first two, and open up a lot of doors.

Yep. Official FSE Hearthstone player.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 18, 2015, 03:57:01 am
Cool cool, got into it some more today with Paladin, obviously still a pretty big beginner but I'm enjoying the matches I played, around 4 casual matches, I feel like Warrior beats the shit out of me every time. xd
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 18, 2015, 04:39:32 am
That's kinda interesting, actually. Warrior is often really difficult to play against a Paladin because of the Pally's ability to spawn a 1/1, basically no matter what, for 2 mana, and because of their synergy with Divine Shield cards and ability to zoo (spam minions) pretty well. Plus their weapons hold up against many Warrior decks, with shit like Truesilver Champion and Sword of Justive. There's a lot of figuring out the classes though, and the best players know how to take advantage of their opponent's classes/decks downsides, like being able to expect moves and plays, know when they're at an advantage or not, and all that good stuff. The best way to start is playing classes with the basic, default decks, until you can learn the ups and downs for each and get the cards necessary to form a pretty good and strong deck.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 19, 2015, 01:31:04 am
Gotchya, guess I'm just being a noob, but I made a better deck and it's basically just a standard lvl 10 Paladin deck, played my first game in ranked and won pretty handily against another Paladin and now it's my second time doing Arena, things are lookin' pretty good, fun ass game.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 19, 2015, 03:22:22 am
Glad to hear it, we'll have to play some time. ;)

In other news I got a fucking spectator quest today. Someone heeeelp.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 19, 2015, 03:27:53 am
Glad to hear it, we'll have to play some time. ;)

In other news I got a fucking spectator quest today. Someone heeeelp.

ill spec ye
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 19, 2015, 03:38:22 pm
Message battle.net tag m8.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 19, 2015, 03:55:58 pm
Message battle.net tag m8.

PM'd ye.

In other news I'm pretty close to Rank 20 and I'm doing quite well with this Paladin deck  :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 19, 2015, 04:51:45 pm
I think I added you, hmu when you're about to play (win) a match. ;)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 19, 2015, 05:00:08 pm
Got it, I'm free pretty much all of today so message me whenever.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 19, 2015, 06:48:00 pm
I've been playing face hunter today and it's crazy how many face hunters I've been put up against, and even crazier how they have just a liiittle bit more luck with card draw for the situations than me. It's like I'm playing fucking arena.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 21, 2015, 04:48:44 am
Ayy Rank 17, the amount of P2W decks are fucking unreal. Especially Warrior with their Grommash Hellscream and Varian Wrynn. OP Warrior Legendaries are OP
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on September 21, 2015, 04:57:23 am
Ayy Rank 17, the amount of P2W decks are fucking unreal. Especially Warrior with their Grommash Hellscream and Varian Wrynn. OP Warrior Legendaries are OP
what happened to this game not being p2w?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 21, 2015, 05:01:06 am
Ayy Rank 17, the amount of P2W decks are fucking unreal. Especially Warrior with their Grommash Hellscream and Varian Wrynn. OP Warrior Legendaries are OP
what happened to this game not being p2w?

It's not really I'm doing quite fine and I haven't spent any money, just some people who blow money on this game and suck at it, either they spent money or they got lucky with pack openings/crafted it with dust.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 21, 2015, 05:10:27 am
Varian isn't that OP on a lot of Warrior metas and Grammosh is so misused in the earlier ranks. If anything, Varian just makes Warrior less predictable. Am I fighting Patron Warrior, Varian + tons of big shit Warrior, Dragon control Warrior, or something else? It's just annoying that people have so much card accessibility through paying for packs. There's no trading in Hearthstone, so dusted duplicates just add up to more cards--the rarer ones you're less likely to get from packs.

And yet you instantly become a "better player" by getting and completing Naxxramas, and getting/crafting Dr. Boom, Sylvanas, etc.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on September 21, 2015, 07:39:52 pm
currently face is d place
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 23, 2015, 11:18:30 pm
True. They need to fix Patron Warrior, Secret Pally, and Face Hunter. It's all that wins.

I've been making some custom cards for a while, trying to experiment with how some cards could exist in the current game of Hearthstone. If anyone is interested, I've got just a few here. Thoughts? Balancing advice?

Spoiler
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(Brann should have his thing as a Battlecry, but it would have to get shortened (heh) a bit to fit. Flamesoul is a Shaman card.)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Wastee on September 25, 2015, 12:55:18 am
My silver knife deck is Op
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 26, 2015, 06:11:50 am
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/2oAdN8M.png)(https://i.imgur.com/dXbWUm7.png)
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A concept I want to iron out. Thoughts? Rogue has the rights to stealth, obviously, but it's not nearly relevant in Hearthstone. I thought this was along the lines necessary to avoid a straight up stealthed legendary.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Wastee on September 26, 2015, 07:11:02 am
Rank 10 with my f2p deck gonna go for 8 before the season end
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 26, 2015, 04:23:25 pm
gl;hf

What is it, like 3 or 4 days left?

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/19072518151
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 30, 2015, 12:28:49 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1i9awgVxc
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on September 30, 2015, 02:31:47 am
get tucked.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 03, 2015, 11:11:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ksVeHu9.gif)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 03, 2015, 11:14:18 pm
Lifecoach get rekt.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 04, 2015, 12:10:17 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43y3ObU47nE
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Lifecoach get rekt again
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 04, 2015, 12:44:13 am
That's such a sad video to watch. Eloise is the luckiest player ever and Lifecoach is one of the least luckiest players ever (for when it matters). But fuck it Lifecoach isn't that great compared to Eloise anyway lol.

I'm having a crisis trying to figure out what to do with a couple legendaries I don't see any potential from anytime soon. I may be crazy for holding on to Bolvar, but Hogger and King Krush don't seem worth keeping. Thing is, I'm always expecting the meta to change in a way that gives tons of potential to cards that lost a lot of it, so it's daunting to think what I dust now is what I might be insta-crafting later. More so, though, it's only 400 dust a pop return rate, and I'd only be using that to craft rares and epics for the most part, which rarity wise is a pretty disappointing ratio. Blizzard sets this shit up so well...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 04, 2015, 01:11:58 am
Eloise and Ropecoach aren't that far apart in skill I don't think but for the amount of ropes he does, he probably deserves it

Hogger is probably worth keeping, I'd disenchant the others, Bolvar is pretty bad if I remember what he does lol.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 04, 2015, 03:26:22 am
It's pretty crazy how Lifecoach got so shut out in the EU semi finals against Neirea, I've been watching them today. Never, ever lucky.

Bolvar worked in a certain Paladin deck I had for a long, long time, but it's just not as effective as Secret Paladin ever since that became a thing after TGT. He's so iconic though that it'd be sad to disenchant him, he's won me a lot of games, actually. People say he's too weak after silence but Tirion is weaker, given mana costs. 8-mana for a 6/6 taunt+divine shield with a DR that gives a 5/3 weapon to just a 6/6? Come on. Even a 1/7 has some value in a Paladin deck, with how easy it is to buff things.

Hogger I can't get much out of, though. I'm thinking he has to be great with (Paladin) cards like Sword of Justice, Mukla's Champion, etc., where the 2/2 taunts can quickly/instantly get buffed. If Hogger was stronger, too, he'd be a much better card, but for 6-mana, a 4/4 and one or two 2/2 taunts over multiple turns is waaay too weak, especially in the current meta where things don't tend to stick on the board for too long. Since TGT I haven't seen a Mal'Ganis stick around for more than like 1-2 turns, even with tons of taunts up. In Classic, Hogger's a very well designed card, but with all the changes made since then, he needs to be buffed, or he's going to just not be played. But he's like, what, level 17? lel.

On my quest to put ideas out there to shift the meta away from aggro:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/19136254390
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 04, 2015, 03:31:19 am
Never lucky, kek.

Tirion is a pretty key card in every Paladin deck it seems, that 5/3 weapon DR is very good as well as the taunt and divine shield which makes up for him being a 6/6. But yeah there's way too many board clears it seems, any big card you play you always have to watch our for something like BGH, Fireball, Execute, etc etc.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 04, 2015, 03:41:03 am
It seems being able to manage a good amount of removal/various useful spells (~8 cards), what you need to take control early game (~8 cards), and a good amount of cards with 4-6 attack (~8) are key to winning consistently lately. And of course, around four or five cards that just change the game instantly, like Alexstrasza and Ysera, and cards that hold strong, immediate changes in board control mid-late game, like Vol'jin and Cabal Shadow Priest. I think that's why Dragon Priest (REALY?!) is a really good deck right now, as it doesn't necessarily need as demanding plays like Patron Warrior does to be effective, just playing into curve the majority of the time and putting up threats bigger than the last one constantly.

I say 4-6 attack because 4 is the magic number against Shadow Words and 7 is the magic number for BGH, but chances are you're going to need some cards for late game that can squeeze passed removals that were wasted earlier on.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on October 04, 2015, 04:47:27 am
It's a card game for casuals.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 04, 2015, 04:48:05 am
It's a card game for casuals.

Lol.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on October 04, 2015, 06:03:14 pm
Started playing hearthstone last night. I have never felt some much rage.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 04, 2015, 09:07:40 pm
It gets better.

Actually no it doesn't.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on October 04, 2015, 09:08:37 pm
I was using a starter deck and only played decks that had like 10 legendaries:(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 04, 2015, 10:39:40 pm
Because having tons of legendaries means insta win doesn't it?

right?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on October 04, 2015, 10:53:09 pm
Legendaries are better than most starter cards xD
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 04, 2015, 11:11:56 pm
Decks with all legends are inherently way better than the starter decks if they can still manage to do well in all stages of the game. You just don't see it a lot because only streamers make enough money off of the game to put that much money into the game.

It's also not a good deck, it can just beat decks.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on October 05, 2015, 01:27:11 am
Any pro tips on how not to suck?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 05, 2015, 01:54:17 am
Find a netdeck that works suuuper well, craft what you need out of what you don't, and get good at it.

Legit Advice
Really, just experiment with the classes. All the pros have to be good at multiple decks (literally, most tournaments now require you to bring like three decks from different classes). They're good because they play the game well.

The most important thing I think most people screw up on, including me, is not considering the plays. Every pro player would tell you, at every turn, consider the whole situation, every single way to play your turn, the risks/rewards of each, and what you think your opponent's counter would be. Try to use this to best decide when to play more aggressively, when to prep yourself against big threats (whether it be big minion(s) or a bunch of minions), and consider when you should/shouldn't play a card based on the thread of board clears/AoE's.

I'll give you an example. I just played a match against a Mechy-Shaman as Mechmage, and I should note that my deck is very similar to Archmage Antonidas Miracle Mechmage (http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/134111-miraclemechmage-v-2-1), but it doesn't have Antonidas, so it basically just sucks. Anyway, the board was like an 0/2 healing totem, a Cogmaster or something, a Totem Golem, and a Tuskar Totemic. Having nothing on the field, I played an Annoy-o-tron, then a Spider Tank, and then a Tinkertown Technician. I had 8 mana, so I used all of it. When I played the TT, I got a freeze, which I could have used on the Totem Golem, which at that point was like a 4/5 or something from a Mukla's Champion. If I played TT first, I probably would have froze one of his two big minions, and then hero powered something else, which would have been way better than just having a 1/2 divine-shielded taunt (which got Ironbeaked next turn), a 3/4, and a 4/4.

So really, it's just thinking things out and considering all the potential options. Late game, you should always be checking for what you have and what you need to reach lethal (winning/killing the other hero), so that you don't miss it, which happens a lot actually and is really sad to see happen.
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I'm at a crossroads at the moment. I kind of really want Antonidas for my mage deck, but it's so weak in the current meta, I doubt it would be worth it. I've got plenty of money to spend, and I'm considering buying 15 packs ($20!), in order to try to get lucky with some TGT packs and get cards that are very important for my current decks atm. I know my Dragon Priest (Miraak) needs two rares, two epics, and a legendary from TGT. But any legendary that isn't worth keeping would probably be enough to dust. I'd just hate to craft non-golden non-legendaries from a pack I haven't opened a ton of yet. :-\

#actuallyregrettingnotbuyingthetgtlaunchbundle
#kindofaddictedtoagameaboutluck
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 06, 2015, 03:54:52 pm
I can only assume the maintenance all day today is to get rid of the wave of bots that Kipp has lulled into the game. Home, sick, I can't remember what I did before Hearthstone. Four more hours...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 07, 2015, 02:03:47 am
I got three two Wrymrest Agents and a Twilight Guardian in some packs today! And The Skeleton Knight...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 07, 2015, 02:47:22 am
spook
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 08, 2015, 02:22:14 am
About to craft me a Ysera. It was her, Sylvanas, or Alexstrasza at the moment. I hope I picked the right waifu one.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 08, 2015, 03:04:58 am
No waifu no laifu.

No dragon legendary no life
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on October 08, 2015, 12:17:01 pm
So many tl;dr posts on this thread.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 09, 2015, 02:27:13 am
so i got the phone version and loved the tutorial so im trying to unlock the full game but I can't move past the battlenet website window and play da game even after ive registered and did all the security stuff for battlenet
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 09, 2015, 02:56:42 am
Get destroyed kid.

Really though, I don't know what the problem is. Are you running the battle.net launcher or are you just unable to download it?

blizzard add this
(https://i.imgur.com/2VS7rIL.png)
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on October 09, 2015, 03:31:37 am
paper airplane does as much damage as fireball, genius
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 09, 2015, 04:20:50 am
The thing is, it makes Spell Damage much more viable, because it's something that if you don't have anything to buff it with, you're going to play. So in theory it'll just get passed back and forth most turns until one player can monopolize off of spell damage. Malygos + Airplane = 4/12 and a fireball! Two of them, pyroblast! At the same time, you should probably not throw it at a Warlock... they might sacrifice it to the Burning Legion...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 09, 2015, 04:25:34 am
Get destroyed kid.

Really though, I don't know what the problem is. Are you running the battle.net launcher or are you just unable to download it?

blizzard add this
(https://i.imgur.com/2VS7rIL.png)
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Since I'm using the phone, I don't use the blizzard launcher
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 10, 2015, 02:36:47 am
Well, there's your problem. Legit tho what OS is your phone?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 10, 2015, 05:23:49 pm
Some of the most mindblowing plays in the NA qualifiers. I'm still amazed by Strelzik's clutch and Vlps's BGH+Sylvanas play. That shit was craaaazyyyyy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JziGCjDK9gs

Guess who I crafted out of the Skeleton Knight.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F940ee6dce6677fa01d25-0f55c9129972ac85d6b1f4e703468e6b.r99.cf2.rackcdn.com%2Fproducts%2Fpictures%2F315148.jpg&hash=86ed34c9c56e346e5f6b7a79a9fe1737a2fbaae9)
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 10, 2015, 11:14:35 pm
Well, there's your problem. Legit tho what OS is your phone?
worked it self out. just had to uninstall and reinstall apparently
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 11, 2015, 09:37:49 pm
Well, there's your problem. Legit tho what OS is your phone?
worked it self out. just had to uninstall and reinstall apparently

Awesome. PM your tag if you want to play some time!

Some great card concepts in the hearthcards gallery at the moment. I really like Crimson Drake, but it's definitely not a legendary. Stormwind Guardbot, Abbot of Keral Keep, Loyal Felhound, and Armored Combatant are just a few that could definitely work in the game.

http://www.hearthcards.net/gallery/
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 15, 2015, 03:00:54 am
Damn you people.

Been playing some Priest lately, despite hating it when I first started playing. Even designed some stuff, thought about a new potential Priest style.

Actually made this card second, but you'd play it first
Pretty straight forward. It's a card that lets Priests see-saw the match into their favor, but I designed it specifically to not make any cards except like Tournament Medic or Antique Healbot or something (which are cards that are a bit redundent in Priest decks anyway) too powerful. Of course, you could run this and one of those minions and deal a ridiculous amount of damage and heal, but those are cards that if you were to run in a Priest deck, you wouldn't usually get a ton of value out of.
(https://i.imgur.com/7QhHPmA.png)
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And the big combo
So first off, it isn't a Holy Nova, but it might need a bit of nerfing to keep Holy Nova relevant. It's a semi-to-full board clear, and based on what goes down, a massive game changer (so it'll probably need a higher mana cost). Combo'd with Shadowy Apparition, it's a bit ridiculous.
(https://i.imgur.com/bzebNQ8.png)
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I also thought Warrior, Mage, and Hunter weren't the only three classes that deserved special heroes (though I don't support the cosmetic-only purchases)
Vol'jin's tutor and the leader of the Darkspear Trolls himself!
(https://i.imgur.com/f2ORKPT.png)
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Blizzard, please hire me. ;~;
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Wastee on October 20, 2015, 11:10:53 am
A few days ago i had a horrid end to my arena run by suicide. Got the mistress of pain from my shredder and already had arachnei soul priest. Together = your own death in 1 turn
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 22, 2015, 04:58:32 am
Ouch. That's actually next level sad. :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 22, 2015, 09:09:05 pm
Deleted it to make room on my phone

RIP Hartstud
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 23, 2015, 02:31:54 am
RIP while it lasted.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 27, 2015, 11:54:15 pm
Never, ever lucky. :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 30, 2015, 04:02:30 am
After being in a HS slump I finally crafted a huge portion of a work in progress Handlock deck (all of  the cards I need at the moment). I'm still considering a few things, like taking out at least one Mortal Coil or one Shadowflame but I've heard both are pretty vital to have two of each. Even with four giants, an overpowered Goblin, the Emperor of the Black Iron Dwarves, and the Eredar Lord of the Burning Legion, it feels like the deck could use more beefy minions. That said, I've only played two games (1/1) with the current version of the deck, so it's hard to say.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on October 30, 2015, 09:37:17 pm
Two mortal coils is usually a must but 1 shadowflame is not bad, depends what you are running into alot.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 30, 2015, 09:40:58 pm
I've been playing it exclusively (had a lot of free time to play it on my phone these passed two days) and I really think two Shadowflames is a waste. A Frost Giant to replace one would even be better based on what I've seen. Or I could disenchant some of my less-good legendaries and finally craft something like Ragnaros or Sylvannas, I think both are worth 3% of the deck's strength, especially since I run Thaurissan.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on October 30, 2015, 09:52:57 pm
I usually play on my phone in between lectures. Sylvannas is just a good card in almost any deck.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 30, 2015, 10:33:01 pm
Of course. It's still a bit too early to say for TGT (plus it was a pretty lame expansion except for some new/improved deck concepts), but Sylvannas is the best classic legendary and Dr. Boom is the best GvG legendary. The value of both are just insane. A 5/5 for 6 mana that does what Sylvannas does is crazy given how it hasn't been nerfed after this long, and Dr. Boom is literally a 7/7 War Golem with two 1/1 little fuckers that have actually won me games before.

It'll be interesting to see how the next adventure (or something else) will change the meta. With Patron Warrior severely ruined, which is the best thing moving forward, we're in a pretty balanced place where only a few certain decks can really shine out over any others.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on October 31, 2015, 01:15:02 am
Sylvannas isn't really too broken to need a nerf, its in a good spot right now. Boom on the otherhand is so strong it probably needs a rework.

Patron warrior is still viable but its a mid-range deck now not an OTK deck but warsong commander is dead.

Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on October 31, 2015, 03:39:25 am
Sylvannas doesn't need to be nerfed, it can still be super weak. It's deathrattle doesn't know the difference between a Deathwing and a Wisp. Meanwhile, Dr. Boom must be Team 5's favorite goblin ever.

Speaking of Wisps, I'm making a Wisp Druid concept deck with some custom cards in hopes of making wisps somehow relevant. Includes a buff to Dark Wispers, massive Hobgoblin synergy, and a couple new cards+new uses for new/old ones. I'll upload it like I did my custom pirogue deck if there's interest.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 06, 2015, 08:52:56 pm
OH BOY

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/expansions-adventures/league-of-explorers/

Spoiler
New Keyword: The League of Explorers introduces a new keyword that lets you do some digging of your own: Discover! You’ll treasure the opportunity to dig up cards and select the one you need the most!

(https://i.imgur.com/B86iLSj.png)

Please tell me Blizzard likes me. :-[
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 09, 2015, 03:16:27 am
tRIPple post u all suk liek dis gaym

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/theorycrafting/82145-toe-the-mmuurrman-obligatory-murloc-shaman-deck
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: joer5835 on November 09, 2015, 04:24:41 pm
Never really got into this game, though it looks really interesting. Whaddaya say, is it still accessable for a newbie or will I simply get butchered by everyone because I have no good cards?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on November 09, 2015, 04:29:07 pm
Never really got into this game, though it looks really interesting. Whaddaya say, is it still accessable for a newbie or will I simply get butchered by everyone because I have no good cards?
is it possible? Yes. Just try to do the daily quests in tavern brawl and then go into the arena. At least that's what I do :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on November 09, 2015, 05:50:13 pm
Never really got into this game, though it looks really interesting. Whaddaya say, is it still accessable for a newbie or will I simply get butchered by everyone because I have no good cards?

It's very possible for someone to just start playing now. There is so many guides on playing the game just for free, just re-roll your low gold quests for high gold ones and remember to play your first game of the new tavern brawl for your free packs. Look around for the class/deck you are interested in and go from there.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 10, 2015, 12:08:21 am
It's always safe to join. The tips summed up:

Freeland:

Spoiler
- Never do a 40-gold quest unless you only have three 40-gold quests. Everything else is fine, but the bigger the better. A pack for spectating is a pretty big one, since that's 100 gold, and usually you don't have to do much.
- Don't craft or dust any card without putting in a bit of research on that card. You might get a legendary you think is worthless and find out later it's a key card for a deck you want to use. The strongest neutral legendaries to craft are Dr. Boom (strong enough to put in almost every deck), and Sylvannas Windrunner.
- Get in the habit of at least loading up the game every day to cycle into better quests, even if you're not going to play.
- Know the Tavern Brawl schedule, because they're usually pretty fun (the one you just missed was crazy fun, imho), and you get a free classic pack for winning one (or participating, depends on the brawl).
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Moneyland:

Spoiler
- If you're going to spend money, don't do it right away on more packs. You generally want to save up your gold for that. Instead, invest in Naxxramas (some cards in it can instantly make your decks much better early on), and if you want certain cards for certain decks from Blackrock Mountain, that too (the majority you would use are for Dragon Priest). If you're questioning it, I'd save up the 700 gold you need for the first wing of Naxx, and consider your options (given you just earned 700/3500 of the gold you need for either adventure). For now, you shouldn't have to worry about the upcoming League of Explorers much. That said, I spent money to buy both adventures, and I will be for League of Explorers (the cheapest so far), since you get much more out of your money than packs.
- Gold/Money to buy Naxx/Brm = 3500/$25. Gold/money to buy 15 packs = 1500/$20. Do some math, while I hope my math wasn't wrong.
- If a Warrior deck interests you, insta-buy Magni Bronzebeard, 10/10, will win you tournaments.
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 10, 2015, 12:26:11 am
Guys get hyped for the explorers League.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 10, 2015, 12:41:47 am
Should be fun! I'll be buying it basically on launch since I really like the whole solo adventure thing, the cards are just a big bonus. ::)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 11, 2015, 01:08:04 pm
Aggro Druid OP
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 11, 2015, 03:49:51 pm
I love the amount of rank 20-17 zoolocks this season that suddenly disappear at rank 16. They ain't got shit on my secrets game.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 11, 2015, 07:26:16 pm
Secrets? That's so last season M8. Greedy Priest is what being played now. ;P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 11, 2015, 09:50:41 pm
Idk, I'm on a decent streak with Secret Pally lately. I really need a practice partner for my tournament styled decks, since they don't work the same way as on ladder, which is why I've been playing so much SP. :(

Not that I'd waste my life as a professional hearthstone player, but online tournaments do interest me.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 11, 2015, 09:59:00 pm
Well got from Rank 25 to 15 with Greed priest today. So yeah, Meta is balanced right now. ;P

Also I would like to help your Tourny decks, but I'm afraid I won't have the decks that you will play against. I'd much prefer to make an own deck and have fun with it, when I'm honest. xD
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 11, 2015, 11:45:52 pm
Well currently, my tourney style decks aren't entirely finished. I'm literally one Hellscream away from Ostkaka's control Warrior, which I want to experiment. I have the dust for it, but just it, so I'd like to wait a bit before committing to a specific legendary like that. Same thing with my Freeze Mage and Dragon Priest, they're both so close to usable but are missing some key things, like Antonidas and some key Dragons.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on November 12, 2015, 07:07:58 pm
So the first part of the expansion is out for NA, and EU still have to wait a day...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 12, 2015, 09:13:43 pm
Eww secret paladin
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 12, 2015, 09:41:13 pm
I'll get it this weekend. I'm probably not going to play much until then if I'm still sick.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on November 12, 2015, 09:43:06 pm
With what, 5 expansions out now, I really think they should consider adding a catch up tool for new players to the game. Maybe half priced classic packs and a starter kit or something like that.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 12, 2015, 09:48:57 pm
And yet it would be unfair for older players. There's ways everyone could reap the benefits of free shit, one of the last Tavern Brawls I got Lord Jaraxxus from the free pack right as I was putting together a handlock deck. IMO, they just need more quests, the type like "beat all AI on expert and get 100 free gold." Enough to make a new player trying to get into the game rewarded for trying to. Unfortunately HS is one of those games that the small few will put way more money into the game than the vast majority.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on November 12, 2015, 10:20:54 pm
Whatever they choose to do, they are going to have to find a way to introduce new players to the game.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 12, 2015, 11:04:41 pm
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: PrideofNi on November 13, 2015, 03:03:04 am
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.

I didnt believe it until I saw it, your back. My, my, my.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 13, 2015, 09:01:59 am
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.

I didnt believe it until I saw it, your back. My, my, my.

Wondered who would notice first. Started getting a load of emails through so came on here out of curiosity. My guess is someone's finger slipped. What's it been like almost 3 years?   :o
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 13, 2015, 12:32:54 pm
Well done the part one of the adventure some interesting cards.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 13, 2015, 12:39:35 pm
Well done the part one of the adventure some interesting cards.

Was fun to play too, I loved the dialogue between Reno and Elise.  ;D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 13, 2015, 12:58:29 pm
It's nice they've added a few more rng fun cards nothing quite like getting a deathwing from a unstable portal
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 13, 2015, 06:38:49 pm
One day I'll play it. :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on November 14, 2015, 04:14:52 am
I have already accepted a portion of my student loan will be going to games and this adventure will be one of them. Looking forward to playing it all when it the full adventure is out
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on November 14, 2015, 07:03:15 am
I healed for 26 with reno jackson today against a face hunter, he conceded immediately  :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 14, 2015, 02:22:46 pm
I healed for 26 with reno jackson today against a face hunter, he conceded immediately  :P

Gonna hate Face hunters, they are the god damn cancer of this game.  :'( But nice story brah
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 14, 2015, 07:06:43 pm
I just had a secret pally vs secret pally fight of the ages. He was clearly level 60 since everything including portrait was golden, except for some epics and legendaries. It was down to Dr. Boom to Dr. Boom, then Tirion Fordring to Tirion Fordring, and he won with a Blessing of Might that he had from the start of the game. :'(

So, is the full adventure still limited by the weekly schedule if you buy it all upfront? Like is $20 also bypassing the wait?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 14, 2015, 07:10:44 pm
No it's still coming weekly
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 14, 2015, 07:25:06 pm
Hmm. Should I get it now, or wait...

I might be buying some packs anyway, so probably. Lol Blizzard, you know just how to get to a young man's wallet.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on November 14, 2015, 08:55:13 pm
I haven't tried adding it up but I think buying the whole adventure cost less in gold and money. Depends if you want to wait or not  ;D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 14, 2015, 09:37:17 pm
I did the math before and I'm pretty sure you get more value out of your money by buying the adventures with money than with gold in comparison to buying packs with money or gold. The other thing is that the adventures have a specific list of cards you're guaranteed to get, while packs are completely random, and skewed super heavily so you're unlikely to get rarer cards. So, yes, if you're going to spend money on Hearthstone, it should be first towards the solo adventures--better value, and you know what you're getting.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: PrideofNi on November 17, 2015, 02:17:19 pm
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.

I didnt believe it until I saw it, your back. My, my, my.

Wondered who would notice first. Started getting a load of emails through so came on here out of curiosity. My guess is someone's finger slipped. What's it been like almost 3 years?   :o

Not sure, maybe 2. You still shit at Dota?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 20, 2015, 01:36:46 am
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.

I didnt believe it until I saw it, your back. My, my, my.

Wondered who would notice first. Started getting a load of emails through so came on here out of curiosity. My guess is someone's finger slipped. What's it been like almost 3 years?   :o

Not sure, maybe 2. You still shit at Dota?

bro 1v1 i'll 420 no scope you invoker kid
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 20, 2015, 01:38:20 am
Fuck off use Steam or PMs you shit cuntz

Ban Reno Jackson.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Bob_The_Drunken_Villager on November 20, 2015, 09:17:08 am
Sometimes, just sometimes I think I'm crazy. Just as uldaman got out, which was around 12 Pm on the 18th I played through it, even though I was tired as hell. Was funny, but I'll guess the first wing was better.

The 2nd boss has to many random variables to be homest. But at least someone gets Brann from it. Looking forward to see him in action. ;D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: PrideofNi on November 21, 2015, 07:44:29 pm
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.

I didnt believe it until I saw it, your back. My, my, my.

Wondered who would notice first. Started getting a load of emails through so came on here out of curiosity. My guess is someone's finger slipped. What's it been like almost 3 years?   :o

Not sure, maybe 2. You still shit at Dota?

bro 1v1 i'll 420 no scope you invoker kid

your shit kid, why you deleted me from steam
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on November 22, 2015, 01:18:22 am
last couple of packs I've opened I got a few nice cards Dr boom being the best but i crafted him long ago.

I didnt believe it until I saw it, your back. My, my, my.

Wondered who would notice first. Started getting a load of emails through so came on here out of curiosity. My guess is someone's finger slipped. What's it been like almost 3 years?   :o

Not sure, maybe 2. You still shit at Dota?

bro 1v1 i'll 420 no scope you invoker kid

your shit kid, why you deleted me from steam

Did I? I never delete anyone
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on November 23, 2015, 12:32:39 am
reno jackson> every game ends in fatigue
Brann bronzebeard> mill rogues

WHAT IS THIS GAME COMING TO?!?
https://youtu.be/_VL10lqGwBI?t=236
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 23, 2015, 02:22:13 am
Yeah, seriously. The only thing I really want out of Naga Sea Witch for Varian Wrynn and Summoning Stone for that bullshit Priest deck Kripp made. The Unearthed Raptor and that one Druid dinosaur are nice, too, and Hunter looks pretty interesting... not good, definitely interesting.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on November 27, 2015, 05:29:28 pm
4-1 with Renolock. :-\
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Biggun034 on December 01, 2015, 11:18:58 am
Saw some people moaning about raptor rouge on Reddit so I thought I would give it a whirl 7-0 so far haha
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 01, 2015, 02:28:03 pm
The OTK rogue is hilarious if you manage to pull it off and so satisfying. Also, with the reno decks coming out oil rogue is finally becoming relevant again.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 01, 2015, 04:00:43 pm
I haven't gotten the next wing yet, but raptor rogue I definitely want to try. And I'd say oil rogue was always relevant, it was the first deck I had a lot of success with last season, it's just not as successful in higher ranks. I've done pretty well against them as Renolock but I don't remember my win rate and my deck recorder thing doesn't work too great.

My pro secret pally analysis of Sacred Trial is: sometimes pretty good against some decks but overall don't bother with more than one if one at all. Given how vital your other cards are, Sacred Trial is pretty meh. You can just activate it with like a Haunted Creeper and get two damage instead of one, which means Knife Juggler opportunity (three hits), and overall it's better for the aggro decks against it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 05, 2015, 10:10:42 am
I've been rather lucky with legendaries from packs. I've gotten both Tirion and Archmage as 2 of my first three legendaries. Crafted Dr. Boom with dust from the other one.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 05, 2015, 08:03:41 pm
The fuck? I got golden Tirion right away but I only recently could craft Archmage Antonidas. Also recently crafted Sylvannas, she's super good in my Raptor Rogue. Teach me how to open packs. :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 05, 2015, 10:26:55 pm
I've got those magic fingers.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 05, 2015, 11:58:30 pm
idk
(https://i.imgur.com/Ml5ewoz.png)
[close]
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 06, 2015, 12:57:37 am
Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 23, 2015, 07:09:28 pm
Hit 12 today! 
Mech Mage is pretty good!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 24, 2015, 05:26:24 pm
That new Gorilla bot mechmage is pretty solid I hear. ::)

I've got a pretty good deck atm. Add me and I'll show you. Dorkpork #1980 <3
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 24, 2015, 08:20:07 pm
Just got Justicar.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 24, 2015, 08:41:59 pm
Tavern brawl rng hates me :(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 24, 2015, 09:08:36 pm
I love the new tavern brawl,

but its like 50/50 chance of you getting lucky on turn one and being able to get board control. If you are down by 2 minions on the board its almost impossible to get that shit back.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 24, 2015, 09:11:07 pm
The main problem I have with hearthstone is the card collections being region locked.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 24, 2015, 09:12:13 pm
Why would you want to play on different regions though
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 24, 2015, 09:19:57 pm
I don't like the Tavern Brawl just because it's a recycled one, and it's pretty lame after the last one given this is ACTUALLY Christmas.

Anyway I did it once for the pack as Warrior and got an opening hand of like Mekgineer Thermoplugg, Varian Wrynn, and some other bullshit thing. Against a Druid who barely played anything early game. Got basically like three legendaries out on turn 4 or 5 and pretty much won from there.

That's why I think this Tavern Brawl is stupid.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 24, 2015, 09:22:06 pm
It's fun for me because I don't pay money for this game, so when I use p2w cards it feels like I actually paid money for the game, but I didn't.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 24, 2015, 10:31:51 pm
Why would you want to play on different regions though

It is mostly just so I could play against friends who are registered in different regions.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 24, 2015, 10:40:26 pm
Also EU is a much more "serious" scene, probably more than both NA and Asia at the moment. Thus EU is a better region for professional players to practice in.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 25, 2015, 05:00:52 pm
Just got Alexstanza in like 4 packs
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 25, 2015, 07:44:23 pm
Just got Alexstanza in like 4 packs

What the fuck. I have had 3 Legendaries in my past 50 packs
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on December 25, 2015, 09:23:01 pm
I haven't gotten a singe legendary outside of the solo adventure thingies.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on December 25, 2015, 09:30:33 pm
I have only gotten 1 legendary and it was from one of the first packs I ever opened
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 25, 2015, 09:59:27 pm
I packed Antonidus, Justicarr, Tirion, Alexstraza, and green skin who I dusted. I crafted Dr. 7 and have Reno.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: BabyJesus on December 25, 2015, 10:23:24 pm
I only have Hogger which is a really underwelming legendary
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 25, 2015, 10:32:15 pm
I have dr. 7, sylvannas, bloodmage and antonidas outside of the adventure legendaries.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 25, 2015, 10:36:44 pm
Sylvanis is who I'm after. ;(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 25, 2015, 10:40:00 pm
The only deck I have used her in is deathrattle rogue. The reason I crafted her is because she fits in almost any deck as a good 6 drop.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 26, 2015, 05:10:30 am
Legendaries I unpacked:
Golden Tirion Fordring
Deathwing
Bolvar Fordring
Hogger
Leeroy Jenkins
King Krush
Lord Jaraxxus
Archmage Antonidas

Legendaries I crafted:
Dr. Boom
Ysera
Archmage Antonidas (before I got him)
Alexstrasza
Sylvanas Windrunner

Legendaries I'm after:
Vol'jin*
Mal'Ganis**
Iron Juggernaut*
Garrosh Hellscream***
Varian Wrynn*
Bloodmage Thalnos**
Justicar Trueheart***
Baron Geddon**
Chillmaw**
Ragnaros the Firelord**
Icehowl**

Epics wise, I'm fucked with Druid so I don't play it, but I need Shield Slams for Warrior. :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 26, 2015, 05:54:42 am
I don't think I will be playing wallet warrior for a very long time.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 26, 2015, 06:19:26 am
I don't think I will be playing wallet warrior for a very long time.

That is my goal in life. Hopefully Bill Gates helps me out.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 26, 2015, 05:55:07 pm
I like this term wallet warrior. Honestly it's the easiest thing in the world to get when you part with the cards you don't need.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 26, 2015, 07:04:48 pm
I am trying to build freeze mage right now as I have always like the idea of that deck. So wallet warrior is in the very far future for me.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on December 27, 2015, 03:22:46 pm
Also EU is a much more "serious" scene, probably more than both NA and Asia at the moment. Thus EU is a better region for professional players to practice in.

You mean EU is 99% better at all e-sports games? #Truth
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 27, 2015, 04:04:41 pm
Also EU is a much more "serious" scene, probably more than both NA and Asia at the moment. Thus EU is a better region for professional players to practice in.

You mean EU is 99% better at all e-sports games? #Truth

Europe's has like 230 million more people than North America, thus having more skilled players to choose from,

but I thought NA was the more dominant scene in Hearthstone
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 27, 2015, 04:05:28 pm
No, the ching chong land is the best at esports
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 27, 2015, 04:06:52 pm
Yeah China and Korea OP
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 27, 2015, 07:18:29 pm
Well, "professional" speaking, if Hotform (CAN) won the world championships over Ostkaka (SWE), than NA would have won two out of two years after Firebat (US) won over Tiddler Celestial (CHN) last year, but as always, Canada lets the US down. #1812
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 27, 2015, 07:23:52 pm
2bad a good bit of hearth stone is rng kappa123456789
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 27, 2015, 07:29:19 pm
Well, yeah. See the final match of the world championships last year? Firebat won with Knife Juggler + Unleash the Hounds, if I'm not mistaken. But still, Americans are masters of RNG.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 27, 2015, 07:31:07 pm
Rip hunter, shaman is better face hunter than hunter is, nowadays at least.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 27, 2015, 07:40:03 pm
Which is intentional, more or less. Blizzard tried to make Hunter more diversified, introducing a card that literally acts like a secondary hero power, in an attempt to give Hunter a control type option. However, Tunnel Trogg for Shaman was a simple attempt to give Shaman better early game cards because it was a pretty weak class, but now it's just weird.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on December 28, 2015, 08:24:59 pm
Shaman is in a weird ass position at the moment. Like, you can run into a shaman that will absolutely crush your soul, but then you'll just run into a shitty shaman who is fodder to your deck. I never seem to run into an in between. Plus I could say with certainty that Shaman is like the only deck that doesn't have a signature deck that is known.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 28, 2015, 08:27:58 pm
After pretty much disenchanting almost every card useless to me I was able to craft the remaining pieces to a freeze mage deck  :D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on December 28, 2015, 08:29:33 pm
After pretty much disenchanting almost every card useless to me I was able to craft the remaining pieces to a freeze mage deck  :D

I'll only dream of ever accomplishing such a feat. I unpacked Mal'Ganis and crafted my Dr. Boom a few days ago.  ;D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 28, 2015, 08:33:36 pm
Shaman is in a weird ass position at the moment. Like, you can run into a shaman that will absolutely crush your soul, but then you'll just run into a shitty shaman who is fodder to your deck. I never seem to run into an in between. Plus I could say with certainty that Shaman is like the only deck that doesn't have a signature deck that is known.

Isn't face Shaman pretty good now?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 28, 2015, 08:38:21 pm
Isn't face Shaman pretty good now?

It is fairly good. Certainly in a better spot than face hunter right now.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 28, 2015, 08:39:12 pm
One day I will be able to craft Mysterious Challenger and Quartermaster, one day.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 28, 2015, 08:57:33 pm
One day I will be able to craft Mysterious Challenger and Quartermaster, one day.

Got to love Secret Paladin.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 28, 2015, 11:32:37 pm
Isn't face Shaman pretty good now?

It is fairly good. Certainly in a better spot than face hunter right now.

Keep in mind, EU and NA metas are different. Here in NA it's a fine line between face shaman and hunter, but I think hunter still has the advantage, as long as they don't experiment with stupid new cards.

I only bother with one Mysterious Challenger. Two is ridiculous, but it's like putting two of the same Legendary in your deck when it's not something you tend to need two of, like Deathwing or Reno Jackson. Quartermaster, why bother? The Muster + Quartermaster + Horse Trainer + SHR type fever dream is something less valuable than other Paladin decks at the moment.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 29, 2015, 01:03:48 am
I took quartermaster out of my pali deck :0
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 29, 2015, 01:15:57 am
Quartermaster is just way too slow and a dead card if you don't have more than one dude on board. Keeper is more consistent and has more versatility.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 29, 2015, 01:28:20 am
#1746 Tammo :):):):):):):)

My decks aren't that good, but i can beat noobs like Ap0c
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 29, 2015, 01:35:58 am
I am EU if anyone here actually plays on there

Jamez#2653
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 29, 2015, 02:17:36 am
DantheChef#1205
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 29, 2015, 03:19:26 am
Only add me if you'd actually play. Dorkpork #1980
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 29, 2015, 04:57:30 am
Well call me trend setter mcgee
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 29, 2015, 06:57:45 am
no
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on December 29, 2015, 09:43:57 pm
my fellow NAs, raise your dongers and add me

Squirts#1768
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 29, 2015, 11:58:40 pm
no

What a weird word to hear you say
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 12:16:38 am
no

What a weird word to hear you say

what
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 05:48:34 am
no

What a weird word to hear you say

what

I think he's saying you're a slut.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 05:58:16 am
Takes one to know one baby
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 06:04:17 am
I know that I am a very large slut.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on December 30, 2015, 06:05:51 am
True.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:12:52 am
True.

I believe a similar theory applies to you as well.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 30, 2015, 07:13:46 am
Dan's got the burners on extra high. ;D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:15:15 am
Dan's got the burners on extra high. ;D

Why would burners have an extra setting when you it could be just a variation of the high setting?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 30, 2015, 07:18:34 am
Dan's extra high.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:19:40 am
Dan's extra high.

Nah fam I don't smoke. I is how I is
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 30, 2015, 07:22:59 am
Dan play me in Hearthstone rn.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 07:24:29 am
What are you talking about, all chefs hack darts. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:25:31 am
Dan play me in Hearthstone rn.
BO3?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 07:28:07 am
Oh I see how it is, Dan :(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:35:19 am
Oh I see how it is, Dan :(

Sorry homie, I still love you
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 30, 2015, 07:41:10 am
Windflower add me bby

#1746 Tammo
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 07:44:26 am
Windflower add me bby

#1746 Tammo

But I'm bad
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 30, 2015, 07:47:07 am
You're not bad, you just refuse to dust shit cards for good cards.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:47:28 am
Windflower add me bby

#1746 Tammo

But I'm bad

Since when did that stop anything or anyone?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 07:47:54 am
It stops me :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 30, 2015, 07:54:55 am
That sucks
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 30, 2015, 08:08:29 am
Top decked and meme'd Tammo
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on December 30, 2015, 08:10:43 am
Beat my mechmage though, which can beat any n00b deck so ur not that bad, of course I had all my creatures in the last 10 cards of me deck
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 30, 2015, 08:59:28 am
I'm making it my January resolution to craft the last few cards for a very lovely deck. It's nothing genius but it'll make some of you cry, if you know or don't know about it already.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 31, 2015, 04:31:22 am
I'm making it my January resolution to craft the last few cards for a very lovely deck. It's nothing genius but it'll make some of you cry, if you know or don't know about it already.

Wallet warrior?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 31, 2015, 04:49:58 am
Nope. The only hint I'll give is this:

"Nurse! I need two CC's of OTK!"
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 31, 2015, 05:13:55 am
Audiate actually thinks I'm gonna try and think of what deck he's gonna use


(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fcache%2F17%2F47%2F17474d3a52fd7efdada7b5896b5c5906.png&hash=61fda789609398636b9e389c2347d3b1ec3f4a01)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 31, 2015, 05:33:14 am
Nope. The only hint I'll give is this:

"Nurse! I need two CC's of OTK!"

wtf are you talking about?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 31, 2015, 05:42:12 am
::)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on December 31, 2015, 10:43:24 pm
I am going to take a guess it is the anyfin can happen OTK deck. It's the only new OTK deck I can think of.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on January 02, 2016, 07:48:18 am
Just opened a Sylvanas :)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 02, 2016, 08:42:37 am
Just opened a Sylvanas :)

Noice! I had to craft her
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 02, 2016, 10:12:14 am
Same. She's one of the best legendaries in the game so it's absolutely worth it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 04, 2016, 11:13:40 pm
Interesting stuff.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVhRF6Jk6U8
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 04, 2016, 11:16:16 pm
If you want the data and shit. (https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3z7jyh/pity_timer_on_packs_opening_and_the_best_strategy/)
Some more proof. (https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3zaeou/pity_timer_on_packs_opening_analysiskinda_proofed/)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 05, 2016, 12:15:10 am
I think it's an interesting find that suggests Blizzard is beginning to shift Hearthstone into an environment that makes it more newbie-friendly. Which, personally, I think is awesome. I want to be told at the end of the season I'm in the top 2% of players instead of the top 8%. ::)

In seriousness, new players with different outlooks on the game (how it should be played...metas, etc.) is a very vital thing for Hearthstone moving forward, and since it's made so much money already (enough to give like $1mil in a single world tournament without cutting into budget, earnings, and staff payments), we can say for certain Blizzard is going to keep it afloat. They're not a company that likes to see their games go under, after World of Warcraft continues to be labelled as dying/dead.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 05, 2016, 12:43:47 am
I think it's an interesting find that suggests Blizzard is beginning to shift Hearthstone into an environment that makes it more newbie-friendly. Which, personally, I think is awesome. I want to be told at the end of the season I'm in the top 2% of players instead of the top 8%. ::)

In seriousness, new players with different outlooks on the game (how it should be played...metas, etc.) is a very vital thing for Hearthstone moving forward, and since it's made so much money already (enough to give like $1mil in a single world tournament without cutting into budget, earnings, and staff payments), we can say for certain Blizzard is going to keep it afloat. They're not a company that likes to see their games go under, after World of Warcraft continues to be labelled as dying/dead.

That was always their goal. Listening to many Ben Brode interviews shows this. He always says that he doesn't want to confuse new players. I think the competitive scene got too big too quick for Blizzard to do anything but endorse it. Look at the vast amount RNG. RNG is not good for competitive things.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 14, 2016, 04:39:04 am
Someone beat Mechazod with me. I need someone to play mage and actually get good combos with Troggzor + Millhouse. Every mage I play with fucking suuuucks.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on January 14, 2016, 04:06:07 pm
Interesting stuff.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVhRF6Jk6U8
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Kripp <3
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 16, 2016, 07:28:32 pm
13-3 with my OTK Murlocadin. I went in thinking a lot would have to change and I'm pleasantly surprised, so far it's been very good to me.

(https://i.imgur.com/PCht4rl.png?1)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 16, 2016, 07:43:28 pm
Mech rogue is top notch
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on January 17, 2016, 08:37:05 am
Mech rogue is top notch

I rekt dan's rogue
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 17, 2016, 08:55:02 am
Mech rogue is top notch

I rekt dan's rogue

The heart of the cards wasn't with me
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 17, 2016, 06:54:30 pm
Neither was it for me whenever I lost yesterday. But 13-3 or whatever it is, I think that's even better than my Renopally.

PS this guy's deck was crazy and bullshit but still lost, now im 16-3, its not perfect but its doing good so far

(https://i.imgur.com/V5vfDPB.png)

also does anyone realize how lucky you have to be with draw order to win using only these cards

(https://i.imgur.com/7kLmJau.png)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 24, 2016, 04:30:32 am
I'm just going to leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GnK8Zinhd8
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on January 24, 2016, 08:24:21 am
I'm just going to leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GnK8Zinhd8

That is pure evil
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 24, 2016, 07:53:25 pm
I never fully understood Mimiron's Head's ability. I thought it read something like "If you have 4 other mechs," not "if you have 3 mechs." This means all you need is two other mechs. And, as the video shows, it ignores stuff like Freeze mage's big board clear combo with Doomsayer + Frost Nova. Of course, it will destroy ALL of your mechs, so flooding for a higher chance to proc is just that and nothing more.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 27, 2016, 11:57:04 pm
I got a legendary today. Yay.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on January 27, 2016, 11:58:56 pm
wut 1
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 28, 2016, 12:18:49 am
shh is sercet
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on January 28, 2016, 12:24:18 am
why
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 28, 2016, 12:31:30 am
(vrey dab)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7PqyopzNPo
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 29, 2016, 01:24:25 am
How to play HS

(https://i.imgur.com/2buMQoT.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on January 29, 2016, 01:41:07 am
How to play HS

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/2buMQoT.jpg?1)
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Are you fucking serious? Did you not just open a pack with a legendary? The odds for that must of been so low.

Also the fact that you took a photo of your phone angers me.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 29, 2016, 01:55:21 am
Nah, that ain't me. I'd be throwing a party for myself if it was, because I would be able to not only replace the abomination that is Abomination with Baron Geddon, but I would be able to craft either Justicar Trueheart or two Shield Slams.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on January 31, 2016, 04:02:17 pm
That feeling when you finish off your opponents with a doom hammer buffed with two rockbiters to hit for 16 smorcirinos. FeelsGoodMan.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 31, 2016, 06:44:58 pm
Face shaman. Ew.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 31, 2016, 07:14:47 pm
Mech warrior all the way
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 31, 2016, 07:54:38 pm
Putting $20 into card packs today, hopefully I'll get Grommash, but what I really want is the dust for Justicar Trueheart and two Shield Slams. A miracle is getting Grommash Hellscream, Baron Geddon, two Shield Slams, and ~1100 dust for Justicar, but I'm just hoping for something decent. Grommash is only ever a win condition when you run Inner Rage/Cruel Taskmaster, and I run neither, so Alexstrasza for the 15 health reduction and Justicar for that massive attrition bonus is super vital, and I've found having Rafaam in lieu of Grommash to actually work out pretty decently, anyway. And Shield Slam is just such a good card to be allowed to run two of.

Wish me luck, I've been on the card simulator all day, practicing my ogre shaman rituals to appease the RNGods.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 01, 2016, 05:17:52 am
Well, the packs were less than impressive, so the gods of RNG have proven yet again to be unpredictable. Still, though, I scraped together the dust to craft Justicar Trueheart, which has seriously improved my control warrior game. Still, Shield Slams, Grommash, eventually Baron Geddon, and maybe something like Nexus-Champion Saraad (good for some late-game on-the-spot card generation, especially since late game usually involves hitting armor/tank up every turn anyway) would make my shit waaay better.

Also, I'm working on something pretty big that's Hearthstone related, maybe some of you would be interested, most of you probably will not be. That's just a fair assumption. ::)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 01, 2016, 05:26:37 am
y u no pray to rngesus
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 01, 2016, 07:04:10 am
Well, the packs were less than impressive, so the gods of RNG have proven yet again to be unpredictable. Still, though, I scraped together the dust to craft Justicar Trueheart, which has seriously improved my control warrior game. Still, Shield Slams, Grommash, eventually Baron Geddon, and maybe something like Nexus-Champion Saraad (good for some late-game on-the-spot card generation, especially since late game usually involves hitting armor/tank up every turn anyway) would make my shit waaay better.

Also, I'm working on something pretty big that's Hearthstone related, maybe some of you would be interested, most of you probably will not be. That's just a fair assumption. ::)

NW Hearthstone Tournament  ::)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 02, 2016, 01:54:52 am
I would totally be on board for that, except there's the two big issues.

1. Hearthstone still has no tournament mode. WHY?! I don't know. Soon™ it'll come, though.
2. Like 6 people from NW actively play Hearthstone, it seems, and like three of them are from the 92nd. That's not relevant I just thought it was pretty humorous tumorous.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 02, 2016, 02:02:55 am
Hearthstone/rocketleague tournament
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 02, 2016, 02:05:59 am
If only Dan got me that legendary I could participate but I guess not sorry guys. :'(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 02, 2016, 02:08:42 am
Mhm
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on February 02, 2016, 11:38:15 pm
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19995505

So that just happened.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 02, 2016, 11:44:34 pm
It's following Magic. No Dr.7, Piloted Shredder, etc.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on February 02, 2016, 11:55:40 pm
Also rip secret paladin
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 03, 2016, 01:56:05 am
Ugh. I don't love this at all. It's just saying "Hmm, how do we fix infamously unbalanced things in the meta? Oh, I know, just make them unplayable in 50% of constructed."

And what's with the "Gone Wild" part?

"If you want any cards you missed out on for Wild play or just to fill out your collection, you’ll be able to craft them using Arcane Dust—even cards from Adventures that were previously un-craftable."

Does this just imply that people will no longer get to play adventures (which I thought was an awesome experience and really fun)? And in regards to getting more stuff, do you have only the option to get one type of pack (and the upcoming type) and dust those cards to craft GvG and TGT cards?

Honestly that's pretty bullshit. Take back the deck slots if this is the shit they pull. I can sort of get them taking raids out of WoW to an extent, in that the servers would be way too busy to hold stable, massive raids on, and thus they should be replaced by smaller versions, but that has no feasible similarity with Hearthstone.

Fuck you, Ben Brode, or Michael Morhaime, or whoever is responsible. I hope a kracken wrecks your crack.

TL;DR: Honestly what Blizzard is doing would be fine as long as "Wild" mode is exactly like constructed is now. I have no idea what their reasoning is behind cycling out old packs, but whatever.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on February 03, 2016, 04:07:04 am
Yay now I don't have to pay thousand dollars to keep up in constructed
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 03, 2016, 04:09:17 am
Yay now I don't have to pay thousand dollars to keep up in constructed
Paupers
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 03, 2016, 04:10:42 am
Well I guess I'm going to be a ~wILd~Guy~
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 03, 2016, 04:19:13 am
Uso-crazy
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 03, 2016, 06:29:13 am
Sigh.... leave it to Blizzard to make ridiculous, unnecessary changes on a large-scale movement.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on February 03, 2016, 10:56:56 am
I just wish they would make regular re-balances like what valve does for their games. Having one or two clearly dominant decks for multiple seasons is just unreasonable.

"If you want any cards you missed out on for Wild play or just to fill out your collection, you’ll be able to craft them using Arcane Dust—even cards from Adventures that were previously un-craftable."

Does this just imply that people will no longer get to play adventures (which I thought was an awesome experience and really fun)? And in regards to getting more stuff, do you have only the option to get one type of pack (and the upcoming type) and dust those cards to craft GvG and TGT cards?

Yes, once the patch is released the naxx adventure will become unplayable and then next year so will brm and loe.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 03, 2016, 11:30:14 pm
That's really retarded. I guess I should rush to get the Naxxramas heroic completed.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 05, 2016, 03:34:53 am
If you have one quarter in naxxramas, you can still open the other quarters with in-game gold only.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 05, 2016, 03:44:42 am
I'm confused. Will people who own Naxx/BrM be able to play them after this next big update?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 05, 2016, 03:48:22 am
I'm confused. Will people who own Naxx/BrM be able to play them after this next big update?
I think so, It's just that you can't buy them.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 06, 2016, 08:29:04 am
I'm confused. Will people who own Naxx/BrM be able to play them after this next big update?

I believe the changes are only removing the Naxxramas quarters. If you have a quarter in Naxxramas completed/purchased, you can still finish the rest of the quarters with in-game gold. If you do not, then Naxxramas cards can only be crafted. Now, the change is essentially that GvG/Naxx is removed from this new "Standard" format and the constructed that we all know and love today is pretty much just renamed underneath the "Wild" format. To answer your question simply, yes. You will be able to play with cards underneath the Naxx wing, but only underneath the "Wild" format. In my opinion, I kind of don't like the change, but at the end of the day these formats puts HS in a better position to compete with other card games that also provide formats. I mean, it doesn't change the way constructed is done, it just labels the current method of constructed underneath another format and others who wanted to see a more "balanced" mode will play with the standard format.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 06, 2016, 04:56:58 pm
I didn't mean play with, I know they won't be available in Standard but will be in Wild, that makes sense. The thing I'm still confused on is if you can play the actual adventures, beating the bosses and doing the heroic versions.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 06, 2016, 10:28:39 pm
I didn't mean play with, I know they won't be available in Standard but will be in Wild, that makes sense. The thing I'm still confused on is if you can play the actual adventures, beating the bosses and doing the heroic versions.

Oh.  ::)

I believe that as long as you still have a quarter purchased, you can still do everything you could before. Otherwise if a quarter isn't unlocked at all, then it's going to be non-purchasable.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 18, 2016, 12:50:48 am
So what decks do you guys think will be the most prominent in Spring?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 18, 2016, 12:51:11 am
Dragons
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 18, 2016, 12:51:51 am
True. My dragon warrior ain't even bad.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 18, 2016, 12:57:40 am
True. My dragon warrior ain't even bad.

Keep thinking that. Mech Warrior>Dragon Warrior when it draws extremely bad
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 18, 2016, 01:01:40 am
Mechs? Yeah. Good luck with that in Spring.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 18, 2016, 01:03:14 am
Mechs? Yeah. Good luck with that in Spring.

Harvest Golem is all I need
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 18, 2016, 01:05:04 am
gl

i want to believe: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/428947-spring-2016-pirate-rogue
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 19, 2016, 10:13:09 am
30 leper gnomes.

edit; 29 leper gnomes and a pyro blast
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 20, 2016, 12:51:05 am
you gotta put mekgineer thermaplugg in there tho
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 29, 2016, 08:47:21 pm
you gotta put mekgineer thermaplugg in there tho
I love autism as well
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 01, 2016, 03:09:20 am
dont make fun of my condition
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on March 01, 2016, 03:21:57 am
dont make fun of my condition

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/avs/avatar_4767_1456529229.png)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 01, 2016, 03:48:22 am
rng simulator 2016
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 05, 2016, 09:17:31 pm
So more teases have surfaced from Blizzard regarding the next expansion, which may or may not be an adventure, but seems to definitely have something to do with the Old Gods. To save myself time and let you read less, here's a good video I found that explains the theories pretty well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIFSZBKKT0

Thanks as always, DT. Anyway, I'm pretty excited, there's a lot of Old Gods related things that a lot of fans have wanted to see for a while (Pirate Ozumat pls).

I'm pretty sure this next expansion's Warrior Legendary minion will be Y'Shaarj. Here he is with Garrosh Hellscream himself!

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette1.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fwowwiki%2Fimages%2Fc%2Fce%2FShaGarrosh.jpg%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20130612091555&hash=a8bf4aebd05e398b25edfb2547a54abfa9b40474)
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on March 05, 2016, 09:45:34 pm
Spoooooky!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 11, 2016, 09:10:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKjUgLrDEbI
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on March 11, 2016, 10:34:09 pm
Best image I have seen of it so far.

Spoiler
(https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/cz/CZB9YHVZ3JN41457720842112.jpg)
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 11, 2016, 11:03:06 pm
loooooooooooool

Made something. It's pretty OP.

(https://i.imgur.com/843scUM.png)

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc78wf9C5Zg
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 16, 2016, 04:20:24 am
new cards announced so far:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F980%2F635934379451931489.png&hash=7b1a76b901aa8733569fea5b4625a872d0e06c0b)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F842%2F635933081757553708.png&hash=79798df0dd12b736c594480a5c3811db37358423)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F846%2F635933082868233251.png&hash=0949a6146785f162ed1759d172fade368b40ef60)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F847%2F635933083009388873.png&hash=0ec5910ad186d3e0164bd87916c290928654c66b)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F843%2F635933082349675806.png&hash=930fd4ac823f748e0b4de413cf28558992365899)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F844%2F635933082596981368.png&hash=dcef3eac787e41b780ce35336cc9a45d009fbd0a)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F54%2F635934774511258078.png&hash=b0903c87dd73eca444610cc2a5ca24c919faeaa7)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F845%2F635933082736494687.png&hash=312c54d75039c52caa44700d59c1aee435489d17)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F3%2F635934505864767224.png&hash=55a3be5fa8064d4f11cdf1ca8d613f541d6db4db)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F282%2F942%2F635933883569229222.png&hash=200db1806e392eb30e51006267e7c2adc261868e)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F394%2F635936421009675093.png&hash=493043b6ee5acaeddb38bd06b92533c3dbe38706)
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interesting stuff for sure. lot of decks are already being built with these, some of them are pretty neat. also, a new hero came out, likely one of three in this expansion, and its free if you get a rank 20 in wow. it doesnt require money, so its not a bad deal, especially how fun it is. trying her out now, uther vs. liadrin, ob hoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2reVVRdLTE

LOL ITS A MIRROR DRAGON PALLY MATCH <333
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 16, 2016, 10:49:31 pm
Even more cards got announced today.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F485%2F635937282953969201.png&hash=371eb65acc31099a123c9b31341cae70c289a695)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F484%2F635937282427519799.png&hash=45b397b75cf7ef26ffd63210529190b1031e1082)

The Ancient Shieldbearer feels like it actually is playable, assuming the cards not yet revealed would allow for that. We've been mostly seeing C'thun stuff, though, and I'm getting more and more curious about all of the other good stuff. Here's some stuff that's surfacing lately:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/122074-street-art-hints-at-future-cards

Interesting. Here's what I think they are:

1. Corrupted Fen Creeper
2. Some sort of Qiraji
3. Potentially a new Priest card/legendary, something likely control related, like Wyrmrest Agent or whatever it's called
4. PIRATES!!
5. lol idfk
6. Potentially a lot of things, like a Qiraji or maybe a Rafaam-type Ethereal
7. Corrupted Sen'jin Shieldmasta? Makes sense with Sludge Belcher leaving, and it sort of looks like it

Getting more excited with the amount of promotion they're doing. :D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 16, 2016, 10:53:16 pm
no op
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 20, 2016, 04:44:34 am
Mill rogue is too good
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 20, 2016, 05:20:05 am
its good when your opponent forgets to count and doesnt reno
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 20, 2016, 05:48:20 am
Would've won anyway I had another coldlight in ma hand
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 20, 2016, 06:39:30 pm
nah u woulda died first

had another matchup against a mill rogue today that literally drawed by milling us both to death. fucking hell dude. #wastehistime2016 or something whatever i guess
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 20, 2016, 08:14:01 pm
New cards announced!

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F571%2F635938131863318435.png&hash=031dd0f7d3581258d3647154f622e8ab3fe4bddd)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F572%2F635938132307514468.png&hash=534e6cd2f2dd6a7ac12c66e9a3137d374bc2fec5)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F618%2F635938525687773754.png&hash=1f7cc5455c4188e0782eac1d6be704e301f99ad0)
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...they're so good...except flame...the others are good though...

And the two released today:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F824%2F635940749016966386.png&hash=4ec6b2c4da5aac547e3f54eccf06792ea0da85cd)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F283%2F827%2F635940756926994058.png&hash=39b63ffec168bf04a5f66a94035619d965db101b)
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Infested Tauren is a big disappointment in my opinion, not because it's just a bad crossbreed between a Sludge Belcher and a Harvest Golem, but because it's clear that Blizzard will be releasing a lot of Naxx and GvG remakes, and just not call them reprints. Sure, Infested Tauren will be better than a Sen'jin Shieldmasta... maybe... and definitely see some play in certain Reno Fatigue/Control decks, but eh. We'll see.

As for Herald Volazj, I'm mostly excited to see the context. If this card carves out a new archetype, and it probably will, I'm curious to know exactly how it'll work out. It is, after all, the Priest Legendary of the expansion, and Blizzard certainly is not known for releasing multiple class legendaries at once, unless they're meant for each other (Dreadscale and the stupid one). So surely there'll be some cards released for Priest/Neutral that make running a Volazj deck feasible, right?

Also, check out this deck, I'm really hoping for it to be a plausible replacement of Force of Nature + Savage Roar, I guess we shall see.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/453337-wog-midrange-cthun-druid-explained
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 20, 2016, 08:27:39 pm
Infested Tauren is a lot better than Sen'jin. You have to take out two taunts instead of one. That's the whole point of taunts is that you cannot target anything but the taunt itself.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 20, 2016, 09:08:38 pm
It's better, but just a bigger target for silence. That said, I think the whole myth about silence is a bit nonsense anyway. Like a 7/7 Bolvar is more worth silencing than a Tirion Fordring. Yeah, it's better, but easy to remove I guess.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 25, 2016, 09:54:50 pm
Dank. http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/458723-wog-cthun-nzoth-pally

WOG C'Thun + N'Zoth Pally
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 26, 2016, 11:38:29 pm
tfw the deck you put up on hearthpwn that gets super super popular is so controversial it gets 28 upvotes and 18 downvotes

tfw no one will pay attention to your new c'thun/n'zoth combo pally or your dank af miracle rogue

Speaking of which, apparently Rogue is getting a lot of its base cards nerfed, so essentially, it will become the least played class in the history of the game for atleast a few years
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on March 26, 2016, 11:54:12 pm
Posting so Audiate doesn't have to talk to himself anymore
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 27, 2016, 01:36:23 am
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on March 27, 2016, 01:43:09 am
same
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 27, 2016, 01:53:16 am
keep in mind, justicar trueheart wasn't revealed until super late, and we've only seen like 10-15% of the expansion; really, weve just seen small teases of the various aspects of it
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 28, 2016, 03:11:19 am
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-hearth.cursecdn.com%2Favatars%2F284%2F556%2F635947043480664519.png&hash=dae29a8b246519cb764492830c9a2fa4ca3ef439)

kappa
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 28, 2016, 04:57:20 pm
Aside from probably being an April Fools joke, it's actually pretty good. It's a par statline with an ability that can either heal itself, you, or other minions, and if you know how to manipulate it, you can get a better chance at healing what you want to heal. The fact that it heals at the END of your turn means you can use him to clear a big minion and then have him heal himself to full.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 12, 2016, 03:54:59 am
some more neat cards released

also eloise is actually p. adorable
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on April 12, 2016, 07:30:23 am
some more neat cards released

also eloise is actually p. adorable

Like neat is one word to describe bad fam
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 13, 2016, 10:52:35 pm
nerfs, man, nerfs.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on April 13, 2016, 11:45:07 pm
nerfs, man, nerfs.

Have they released them?!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 14, 2016, 02:12:58 am
no, but i mean, the majority of shit that seems so bad seems bad because of three reasons:

1. theyre designed for the game when other cards are changed
2. they seem weak compared to various gvg/naxx cards which were basically broken from the start and set all of our standards way too high
3. theyre actually just bad, but that only goes for a couple of the cards so far
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on April 14, 2016, 08:20:25 pm
no, but i mean, the majority of shit that seems so bad seems bad because of three reasons:

1. theyre designed for the game when other cards are changed
2. they seem weak compared to various gvg/naxx cards which were basically broken from the start and set all of our standards way too high
3. theyre actually just bad, but that only goes for a couple of the cards so far

We have seen what a 10th of all the cards and there have been a few unique card designs already. Sure some are slight reprints of gvg/naxx cards but that was to be expected. The new rogue card that just came out a few hours ago looks amazing.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on April 14, 2016, 09:41:06 pm
That's going in my mill rogue
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on April 14, 2016, 09:51:12 pm
That's going in my mill rogue

You could put that in most rogue classes, just a little sad that it costs 5 mana.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on April 14, 2016, 09:55:18 pm
Mill rogue is the only deck that matters though
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 14, 2016, 10:04:52 pm
lol true

Yeah, Shadowcaster is fuckin nuts. I saw it on my phone on my way home and was pumped to theorycraft with it. I can imagine many things it's useful with, even Anub'arak assuming the 1/1 returns an 8/4 to your hand, meaning even if Anub gets silenced you still have a chance to beat heavy control decks. That primarily goes for Deathrattle/Raptor Rogue, but potentially control rogue if that becomes feasible. It's also pretty dank in mill as said but only really as an immediate push for cards, like to fill the gap between milling and not, if your opponent has like 8 or 9 cards before their turn. Otherwise it's just a 4/4 that acts like Gang Up but only gives you 1, which costs two less, so its like shadowstep, but it goes in your hand and not your deck, blah blah blah. I think I'd honestly prefer a 4-mana 3/3, but it being 5-mana lets it naturally curve out better with Tomb Pillager, who isn't the WORST target for Shadowcaster, since the mini pillager pays for itself.

Cool card, I really hope to see more stuff like this soon.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Jamez on April 22, 2016, 01:48:20 am
Some of the cards on the stream were great. And I think this is the rest of the unreleased cards https://www.facebook.com/Hearthstone/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1068859113156856

The druid legendary looks great.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 22, 2016, 11:57:19 pm
I'm glad Kripp said what he said about the Druid legendary because I feel exactly the same way. It feels like a noob trap at the worst of times, and a 6/6 charge/taunt for 5 or a 10/10 taunt for 7 at the absolute best of times. You need to be running a Choose One deck for it to be super effective, and if it's super good, people will just auto remove it, so it won't even get that much value anyway. If Druid had a Duplicate or Gang Up type card, it might be worth running, but bleh. It's an optimists card.

If you have a curse account (you do if you ever signed up for hearthpwn, minecraft planet (?), and other sites), pls upvote (or just check out, whatever, who cares) my C'Thun Druid, it's p. dank. I'm going to be testing the fuck out of a couple variants, like with Fandral instead of Elise (even though he's meh in this), second Azure instead of Ancient, with Disciple of C'Thun instead of Twilight Cultist, with Doomcaller, etc. etc. I'm expecting Midrange C'Thun Druid to be one of the most consistent C'Thun decks in Standard.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/453337-guide-midrange-cthun-druid
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on April 23, 2016, 12:31:39 am
I'm glad Kripp said what he said about the Druid legendary because I feel exactly the same way. It feels like a noob trap at the worst of times, and a 6/6 charge/taunt for 5 or a 10/10 taunt for 7 at the absolute best of times. You need to be running a Choose One deck for it to be super effective, and if it's super good, people will just auto remove it, so it won't even get that much value anyway. If Druid had a Duplicate or Gang Up type card, it might be worth running, but bleh. It's an optimists card.

If you have a curse account (you do if you ever signed up for hearthpwn, minecraft planet (?), and other sites), pls upvote (or just check out, whatever, who cares) my C'Thun Druid, it's p. dank. I'm going to be testing the fuck out of a couple variants, like with Fandral instead of Elise (even though he's meh in this), second Azure instead of Ancient, with Disciple of C'Thun instead of Twilight Cultist, with Doomcaller, etc. etc. I'm expecting Midrange C'Thun Druid to be one of the most consistent C'Thun decks in Standard.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/453337-guide-midrange-cthun-druid

Up voted for ya'.  ;)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 23, 2016, 02:47:27 am
appreciate it bruv
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 24, 2016, 04:52:28 am
me 3-0 dan

ayelmao, bouta get some dick pics
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on April 24, 2016, 07:12:42 am
im getting 3800 dust when I dust all my nerfed cards
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on April 24, 2016, 08:00:21 am
me 3-0 dan

ayelmao, bouta get some dick pics

I ain't yugi
It ain't fair
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on April 24, 2016, 04:40:13 pm
me 3-0 dan

ayelmao, bouta get some dick pics

I ain't yugi
It ain't fair
You didn't believe in the heart of the cards
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on April 24, 2016, 04:53:07 pm
me 3-0 dan

ayelmao, bouta get some dick pics

I ain't yugi
It ain't fair
You didn't believe in the heart of the cards
I didn't have my grandfather's deck to bail me out
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 24, 2016, 05:07:12 pm
thatz cuz im yugi lmao

im getting 3800 dust when I dust all my nerfed cards

dude get good ima have like 6000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDAtJzebC3E
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on April 25, 2016, 07:13:12 am
8k dust  8)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 25, 2016, 09:48:21 pm
disenchanted shit, sitting on about 7.5k rn, probably a bit more after the ~80 packs im opening
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on April 26, 2016, 11:13:19 am
7 more hours 8)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on April 27, 2016, 01:39:14 am
Mage-Yog deck is crazy.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on April 27, 2016, 01:51:59 am
Mage-Yog deck is crazy.
I find it hilarious

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/Xl9Z8br.jpg)
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 27, 2016, 03:50:40 am
N'Zoth + C'Thun Pally = Ridiculous winrate and good times

out of my packs i got mukla and n'zoth, crafted vek'lor, and some shaman shit, now im just sitting on 6k dust like "fuck, shoulda made those twins golden"
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on April 27, 2016, 04:48:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8y2OrMV1kM
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 28, 2016, 12:31:15 am
and it only took like 60 spells
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 30, 2016, 01:20:10 am
Hey guys, if you have a Hearthpwn account, could you do me a favor and upvote this post? It's the "Forbidden Defense" post.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/137923-old-gods-new-tricks-a-card-design-competition?comment=242

It's for a competition, the winner gets the card made for them IRL, but I don't really care about that. I just wanna win.

It's not the best card ever, but it's designed to help a dying archetype, or at least shift a new one towards it. Justicar + Shield Blocks + Armorsmiths + Ancient Shieldbearers (in C'Thun varient) are must haves with this, and I think the result is superior late game without having to run as many taunts. Of course, if you're running the C'Thun variant, you would want to run the Twins, but if you want an edge towards keeping late game stuff alive, this could potentially be great at that. It's also potentially fine during the mid-game when you have nothing to play but just have to gain some armor.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on April 30, 2016, 06:27:36 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8y2OrMV1kM

That was a fucking roller coaster. Lmfao.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 01, 2016, 01:36:51 am
I am not enjoying the new expansion at all.  :-\

what a vague ass complaint. what about it is so bad?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 01, 2016, 02:31:16 am
Mill rogue is fucked :(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 01, 2016, 03:33:06 am
psst... ambush mill might be more viable now...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 01, 2016, 04:05:16 am
No deathlords
No sludges
No healbots

like no survival
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on May 01, 2016, 04:19:04 am
But Shaman is really good now with new Evolve/Cthun hybrid decks!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 01, 2016, 04:38:24 am
No deathlords
No sludges
No healbots

like no survival

aka more aggression

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/522252-deck

psych-o-tron and crazed worshiper are the closest to belcher, i prefer tron in this instance
double fan and no shiv because you need board clears and shiv is like a lesser fan
i honestly think nat could be great as either something your opponent stupidly lets live because they dont realize whats happening, or they exhaust way too many resources to remove it, he trades super well (like a weak totem golem), and he can be played during mill to potentially give a slight boost
beneath the grounds is pretty must have in mill rogue now, fatigue is all i played but i might have to craft btg's for the new meta, mill rogue has to be way quicker
for more heal you could potentially add a cult apothecary since most players reactions when dealing with mill is play as much shit as they can because they panic, so you could apoth into vanish, clearing their shit and healing off of it. plus since every c'thun deck, every n'zoth deck, every zoo, and every shaman is now playing tons of shit, you could potentially get great value out of it almost every time

dont critique the deck itself, i put it together in literally 30 seconds, just saying thats how mill rogue would have to be now, give/take a couple cards
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 01, 2016, 04:44:52 am
mill is dead atm
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 01, 2016, 04:46:01 pm
>implying it was ever tier 1, 2, 3, or 4
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 04, 2016, 11:27:10 pm
Psst, hey guys...

VOTE FOR FORBIDDEN DEFENSE ON THE POLL PLS, THIRD FROM THE TOP

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/139761-old-gods-new-tricks-a-card-design-competition
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tammo on May 05, 2016, 06:45:38 am
How do i play this game anymore
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 05, 2016, 02:09:52 pm
How do i play this game anymore
Magic and C'thun
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 05, 2016, 09:07:37 pm
How do i play this game anymore
Magic and C'thun

tru

PLS VOTE FOR FORBIDDEN DEFENSE
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/139761-old-gods-new-tricks-a-card-design-competition
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on May 05, 2016, 11:07:56 pm
No deathlords
No sludges
No healbots

like no survival
doomsayer, reno
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 06, 2016, 12:15:05 am
No deathlords
No sludges
No healbots

like no survival
doomsayer, reno
That's a no in mill
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 06, 2016, 01:40:40 am
reno is dumb, but doom is built to delay and remove, it'd be fine in mill, youre not the master of the deck, yuck fou, shut up
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 06, 2016, 01:46:32 am
The taunts were there to stop aggro and just to block damage while taking out a lot of the board. Doomsayer doesn't really do that.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 06, 2016, 03:50:37 am
doomsayer does exactly that

you play it, either people remove it and play small stuff, or they dont and skip their turn, basically

sure, its not effective like taunts against a pre-existing board, but you gotta get out of the bubble of wild format

basically get gud kid 3-0
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 06, 2016, 03:51:30 am
You're wrong and you need to accept that autism is real
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 06, 2016, 03:56:29 am
oh i believe it

im looking at it right now

fag
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 06, 2016, 03:59:10 am
You know it
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on May 06, 2016, 02:09:35 pm
Ye a card that destroys all minions and forces an opponent to either waste a clear, use their prexisting minions to kill it
, or just completely skip their turn isnt a fatigue card. Obvs.  :-X
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on May 12, 2016, 09:36:10 pm
New Deck I conjured up, lemme know what you guys think of it.

 http://hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/cthun-grim-patron-warrior-standard-may-2016/
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 12, 2016, 11:12:43 pm
Dumb question but what is with the Emperor?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on May 12, 2016, 11:22:32 pm
Dumb question but what is with the Emperor?

Well I put it there because emperor is just a good card in general in my opinion, but it also is there for the player to get off more combos in one turn. Plus an emperor can just absorb another board clear or removal if it doesn't turn out to effect a wide range of cards cause leaving a emperor up scares a lot of players.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on May 12, 2016, 11:30:53 pm
I haven't played with your deck but won't taking emperor and maybe Sylvanas be better? You would get like Frothing in which is always a good card and maybe another utility like Kor'Kron
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 13, 2016, 03:58:23 am
I would replace Emperor with Emperors.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on May 13, 2016, 04:20:01 pm
I would replace Emperor with Emperors.

That's a good suggestion, I debated between the twins or tharissan. But now that you confirm my thoughts they make me want to edit thaurissan out.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Nock on May 28, 2016, 01:29:27 pm
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJjN9CGnDzo
[close]
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 29, 2016, 09:46:45 pm
that was a gud 1
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on July 15, 2016, 01:53:45 am
Hey guys, if you could help me out and upvote my card, Golemagg, the Incinerator, I would really appreciate it:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/164636-weekly-card-design-competition-4-01-submission?page=2#c32

Also, I started streaming Hearthstone, and I'm probably going to start streaming some nonsense decks (I'll absolutely be taking requests), in about 10 minutes. You can find the steam here:

https://www.twitch.tv/dorkenporken

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on July 15, 2016, 03:17:18 am
Hey guys, if you could help me out and upvote my card, Golemagg, the Incinerator, I would really appreciate it:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/164636-weekly-card-design-competition-4-01-submission?page=2#c32

Also, I started streaming Hearthstone, and I'm probably going to start streaming some nonsense decks (I'll absolutely be taking requests), in about 10 minutes. You can find the steam here:

https://www.twitch.tv/dorkenporken

Thanks!

What the fuck type of deck would that be used in, jesus. xD
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on July 15, 2016, 03:35:08 am
Control Mage, Handlock, perhaps a weird Control Warrior. It's a thing. The contest might as well be called "most impractical cards," but it's still a contest.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on July 21, 2016, 06:22:18 am
streaming some bad warrior arena rnow: https://www.twitch.tv/dorkenporken
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Coconut on August 11, 2016, 11:23:45 am
karazhan today  ;D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 11, 2016, 09:53:48 pm
ye, kara boyzzzz

I'm gonna be streaming it tonight hopefully, like around 7pm EST. If you wanna see what it's like if you don't have it/not getting it, come hang out around then, the stream is https://www.twitch.tv/dorkenporken
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on August 11, 2016, 11:14:45 pm
ye, kara boyzzzz

I'm gonna be streaming it tonight hopefully, like around 7pm EST. If you wanna see what it's like if you don't have it/not getting it, come hang out around then, the stream is https://www.twitch.tv/dorkenporken
absolute scrubbie
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 12, 2016, 12:49:29 am
yeyeyeyeyyeyeyye

starting in 10 minutes
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 20, 2016, 02:15:41 am
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/168440-weekly-card-design-competition-4-06-submission?comment=39

upvote that tome of the battlelock if you finna rep for a real nig ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

but seriously id appreciate it thanks
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 09, 2016, 05:55:12 am
upvote this shit so i can win and stop having to ask (muradin bronzebeard)

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/170708-weekly-card-design-competition-4-09-submission?page=2#c41

thx bby girls u da bes
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on September 09, 2016, 07:36:52 am
upvote this shit so i can win and stop having to ask (muradin bronzebeard)

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/170708-weekly-card-design-competition-4-09-submission?page=2#c41

thx bby girls u da bes
Stop trying
You can't win
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on September 09, 2016, 08:32:49 am
i will if i keep trying

you dont even know what a card is so shut up
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on November 14, 2016, 06:03:35 am
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 11, 2017, 01:00:47 am
upvote Kur'talos Ravencrest and none others on that page my guys please ty 👌👌👌👌

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/185546-weekly-card-design-competition-5-06-submission?comment=69

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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: GeneralSquirts on February 11, 2017, 02:29:45 am
upvote Kur'talos Ravencrest and none others on that page my guys please ty 👌👌👌👌

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/fan-creations/185546-weekly-card-design-competition-5-06-submission?comment=69

do it even if you dont like the card my guys 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

I liked patches big brother, seems pretty viable against aggro.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 11, 2017, 05:29:53 am
thanks
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 25, 2017, 06:12:52 pm
Not sure how many people on here still play much, but this is a pretty nice survey someone put together. With three expansions this year, it'll probably be good for the Hearthstone team to have some input on how people want the game to be going forward. If you care, it doesn't hurt to give your 2 cents! It's also pretty short, so it shouldn't take too much time to finish.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6RBw_9iB8JdnL-eu0ngfLVHJKwGWVFBI9sjCbr0kIvyh99w/viewform
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 25, 2017, 07:31:09 pm
Nifty
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 21, 2017, 12:29:45 am
You'll get a free Fight Promoter (neutral epic) just for logging into Hearthstone today. Might as well.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Furrnox on May 21, 2017, 12:52:55 am
So I heard Gwent is going into open beta..
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Nock on May 22, 2017, 06:00:08 pm
HS > Gwent
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on May 22, 2017, 07:35:24 pm
I like Gwent from Witcher 3. I'll probably play some Gwent when it's fully released. But it's not nearly as much of an interactive game as Hearthstone, even if Hearthstone has a lot of RNG.

In other words, I have paid money for Hearthstone cards, because it's cheaper to build a deck in Hearthstone than in, say, MtG, and the cards feel like they're doing something unique and significant. Gwent is literally a counting game.

By the way, I've had the 80g quest for a couple days, looking to complete it. Someone need another pack?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Wastee on May 26, 2017, 04:40:42 pm
I like Gwent from Witcher 3. I'll probably play some Gwent when it's fully released. But it's not nearly as much of an interactive game as Hearthstone, even if Hearthstone has a lot of RNG.

In other words, I have paid money for Hearthstone cards, because it's cheaper to build a deck in Hearthstone than in, say, MtG, and the cards feel like they're doing something unique and significant. Gwent is literally a counting game.

By the way, I've had the 80g quest for a couple days, looking to complete it. Someone need another pack?
WasteTooCool #1149

If anyone wants to do quests or just play, I'm a f2p with some average skill n stuff. Just getting into it again
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Mexican on July 28, 2017, 06:44:37 am
if anyone still plays this game hmu, new expansion is dropping soon

Mexicant #1958
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on July 28, 2017, 07:33:18 pm
I've been impressed by a couple cards so far, but as a Paladin main, I'm pretty interested in that new Arthas Menethil portrait.

Here's the list of cards currently revealed, it updates over time with any new ones. There's a live stream tonight of a bunch of cards not yet seen, but I don't think it's going to be all of them. It could be, though, since they started revealing cards way before deadline.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards?filter-premium=1&filter-set=109&filter-unreleased=1&display=3

The new Hero Cards get new Hero Powers, btw. Of the currently revealed two, Hunter's is basically "discover two beasts that cost (5) or less and combine them," which adds the minion to your hand, and the hero power costs 2, so, it's whatever. The Mage Hero Power hasn't been revealed yet, which is pretty frustrating, and the leak came from some obscure app, so who knows if it's real anyway.

I'm excited for the Wild Fatigue Druid with N'Zoth + Hadronox and all the Taunt+Deathrattle minions in Wild.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on July 30, 2017, 08:27:02 pm
I'm playing some super degenerate Pirate Warrior and twice in a row my opponent conceded on their first turn. Woah. I must be super good!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 04, 2017, 08:32:10 pm
The next expansion launches August 10th, get hyped!

http://www.hearthpwn.com/guides/2963-knights-of-the-frozen-throne-hearthstones-sixth
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on August 04, 2017, 08:34:13 pm
You're talking to a brick wall Audiate
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on August 04, 2017, 08:45:34 pm
You're talking to a brick wall Audiate
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on August 04, 2017, 08:51:42 pm
Yeah, I know. :-\

Tbh it's not that exciting so far, it's mostly a punch in the gut to everyone who wanted a Death Knight, or any other new class. Like me, who spent like a year making a DK class, haha. Oh god... At least this deck looks cool, haha.

https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/freeze-evolve-shaman-standard-meta-snapshot-july-31-2017
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 15, 2017, 06:43:45 pm
N E C R O

New expansion is pretty boring tbh. There's only like 2-5 useful weapons atm, only 2 of them being actually significant so far. Kingsbane Rogue is kinda fun, been trying to make it work. King Togwaggle + Explore Un'Goro + Skulking Geist has been a really fun combo when it actually works. I'm hoping to get that new Warlock demon and weapon, Master Oakheart, and a pair of Carnivorous Cubes for this wacky Control Warlock that uses a Doomguard + Spiritsinger Umbra + Carnivorous Cube + Dark Pact combo for like 25 burst over two turns. Also Oakheart is surprisingly sick. A turn nine 5/5 that battlecry summons a 3/9 taunt that summons three 1/3 taunts when it dies, a 1/5 or 1/7 that becomes a 3/5 or 4/7 on your opponents turn, and a 2/4 or 2/6 taunt is preeeetty good. Also Rin is fun. Control Warlock is happy, Miracle Rogue is looking alright, but the rotation next xpac is taking out Whispers of the Old Gods, Karazhan, and Mean Streets of Gadgetzan, which kinda ruins all the good decks right now, lol. Maybe it'll be better with a fresh slate but damn is Hearthstone getting expensive af.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on December 15, 2017, 06:46:10 pm
N E C R O

New expansion is pretty boring tbh. There's only like 2-5 useful weapons atm, only 2 of them being actually significant so far. Kingsbane Rogue is kinda fun, been trying to make it work. King Togwaggle + Explore Un'Goro + Skulking Geist has been a really fun combo when it actually works. I'm hoping to get that new Warlock demon and weapon, Master Oakheart, and a pair of Carnivorous Cubes for this wacky Control Warlock that uses a Doomguard + Spiritsinger Umbra + Carnivorous Cube + Dark Pact combo for like 25 burst over two turns. Also Oakheart is surprisingly sick. A turn nine 5/5 that battlecry summons a 3/9 taunt that summons three 1/3 taunts when it dies, a 1/5 or 1/7 that becomes a 3/5 or 4/7 on your opponents turn, and a 2/4 or 2/6 taunt is preeeetty good. Also Rin is fun. Control Warlock is happy, Miracle Rogue is looking alright, but the rotation next xpac is taking out Whispers of the Old Gods, Karazhan, and Mean Streets of Gadgetzan, which kinda ruins all the good decks right now, lol. Maybe it'll be better with a fresh slate but damn is Hearthstone getting expensive af.
HearthZzz

I'm hitting the snooze button on HS permanently
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 15, 2017, 06:53:01 pm
Yeah, I'm glad the Magic community around me is pretty active and has mostly chill people because I enjoy card games but Hearthstone is getting really slow and expensive. I'm sure it'll pick up like all hell the next couple of sets though. WotoG's meta is so memorable because it was the freshest experience since launch, I'm sure they've got plans. It won't be AS fresh as Whispers' Launch though, just by card pool.

Still, the price is too high for a card game that offers 0% return because if Blizzard finds out you sold your account they'll ASAP lock it indefinitely. At least with Magic you can sell your cards for a percentage of what they were worth, or in some cases, for WAY more than you got them for. Look at Karn Liberated, a card that was under $10 a few years back and is now easily $65+. Not to mention original Moxes and split lands and shit, but those aint even real.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: MarxeiL on December 19, 2017, 06:44:50 am
Yeah, I'm glad the Magic community around me is pretty active and has mostly chill people because I enjoy card games but Hearthstone is getting really slow and expensive. I'm sure it'll pick up like all hell the next couple of sets though. WotoG's meta is so memorable because it was the freshest experience since launch, I'm sure they've got plans. It won't be AS fresh as Whispers' Launch though, just by card pool.

Still, the price is too high for a card game that offers 0% return because if Blizzard finds out you sold your account they'll ASAP lock it indefinitely. At least with Magic you can sell your cards for a percentage of what they were worth, or in some cases, for WAY more than you got them for. Look at Karn Liberated, a card that was under $10 a few years back and is now easily $65+. Not to mention original Moxes and split lands and shit, but those aint even real.
You mean expensive as fuck
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 19, 2017, 08:48:03 am
Yeah, it is pretty ludicrous actually. >$1 per pack is kinda really stupid. I'd be more tempted to spend $50 every expansion if it gets me like 80-120 packs than 40 or 50 or whatever the promo is.

Unfortunately it's one of those games funded by micro buyers who spend a couple bucks every now and again but very consistently, and people who buy several dozens or hundreds of dollars on packs every set. There's a Druid deck for Wild that I designed but don't have the dust for, I'm like 11k off. It looks really fucking fun, and not terrible, but I'll just never get to afford it, and that sucks.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: fruitocino on December 26, 2017, 12:38:34 pm
I only played casually on Heartstone and stopped about a year ago, is Pirate Rogue still a thing?  :D
The amount of Expansions got a bit too much for me, and while I liked creating my own decks it was kind of weird getting destroyed by people who would literally have the exact same decks everytime. But I guess that's what Heartstone about and I enjoyed it while it lasted (for me).
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: John Price on December 26, 2017, 04:06:19 pm
Thats what threw me off personally, its a game I would play every now and then but the card meta's just change waay to often.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on December 26, 2017, 05:49:24 pm
warlock meta
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 26, 2017, 06:27:58 pm
Control Warlock is dank because it's been a while since slower Warlocks were tier 1 but I don't have like 90% of the xpac because I bought 0 packs of it with $$$. No Voidlords, no Lackeys, not even any Dark Pacts, and Skull of the Man'ari is pretty good too. Can't even play the Cubelock variant because 0 Cubes.

 :(

Meanwhile Magic Arena is on its way and it might be good, especially after there's some revenue flowing through it and they can focus on improving the less impressive looking stuff.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on December 26, 2017, 07:10:43 pm
Haven't ever dropped any $ on just the card sets, but got LoE and karazahn. This expansion I had 1000 gold saved up and ended up getting two legendaries kek. One of them was rin so I've been playing a medivh control version of the deck til I can get those cards you just listed. I think the current meta is pretty solid though, a lot less cancer aggro decks ATM.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 26, 2017, 09:37:58 pm
Mill makes people want to kill themselves so that's why I like it
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 27, 2017, 12:00:55 am
I got a few legendaries, crafted a few others. Now I'm absolutely broke on dust and there's a bunch of crap I want to craft. I'm probably going to switch to playing mostly Wild after the rotation in the Spring, it really depends on what mechanics they add, but I'm getting tired of buying new content just to keep up. There's gotta be WotOG level competitive control decks to keep me interested. Just having the Jade and Pirates packages gone isn't enough, especially since some of the most fun cards to play with are going to be leaving too.

There's a non-Jade Infinity Druid list I want to build for Wild that looks pretty awesome, it's the deck I mentioned earlier in the thread. It's got some weird tech to play against Naga Sea Witch + Giants decks, like Soggoth the Slitherer, which is pretty funny, since he never worked well in Standard. Here's the list:

2x Naturalize
2x Wild Growth
2x Wrath
1x Brann Bronzebeard
2x Coldlight Oracle
2x Deathlord
1x Mulch
2x Astral Tiger (don't have)
1x Barnes
1x The Darkness (don't have)
1x Twig of the World Tree
2x Nourish
2x Sludge Belcher
1x Dark Arakkoa
1x Spreading Plague
1x Malfurion the Pestilent
1x Malorne (don't have)
1x Hadronox (don't have)
1x Soggoth the Slitherer (don't have)
1x N'Zoth, the Corruptor
2x Ultimate Infestation (need a second one)

It's pretty wacky, as you can tell, and I'm pretty short of dust. Crafting Malorne, Hadronox, and Soggoth the Slitherer are all things I never expected to do, but I think all are pretty relevant, despite being individually bad. It's got some cool wincons, including double The Darkness from Barnes (assuming the "1/1" copy awakens as a 20/20), twice as many Darkness Candles from Brann to wake it up faster, milling out with Brann + Coldlights + Naturalize + Deathlords, slowing down Giants a shit ton with Sludge Belchers, Spreading Plague, Soggoth, N'Zoth, etc., and infinitely avoiding fatigue with Astral Tigers and Malorne, who are pretty good with building massive board states for N'Zoth and allowing late game Ultimate Infestations when there's several Tigers and Stags in the deck. Sure, you need to really stock up on them, which N'Zoth helps with, but otherwise I think they'll work pretty well. I prefer them over Jade Idols because some lists run Skulking Geist, which completely fucks over other Druid decks that go to fatigue, and I like the synergy that the Deathrattles provide. It's a really similar idea to this Mage deck I built for Wild months ago, where you just play boards of Deathrattles and Giants over and over again with stuff like Echo of Medivh, but that deck relied on too few of cards and weird situations to happen, while this Druid deck just has a lot of cross synergies and everything kinda makes sense for the gameplan of the deck, which has multiple outs. It'll probably be bad but it seems fun as fuck.

PS. Fuck meta mages rn lol.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 27, 2017, 12:37:24 am
Mill rogue/exodia mage are the future
When you can't play around them, fun is had by exactly one person
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on December 27, 2017, 03:39:44 am
I wish I could play MTG EDH with you, Dan. :-*

OTK Mage is great but the card pool has so many options I don't know what's best way to build the deck at this point.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on January 25, 2018, 07:21:41 am
Finally a good meta for control warlocks, it's been ages.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on January 25, 2018, 07:28:41 am
warlock meta
Ur late
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on January 25, 2018, 08:32:20 am
warlock meta
Ur late

Don't talk to me, aggro scum.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on January 25, 2018, 12:34:24 pm
The mill/exodia meta is here
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 26, 2018, 01:13:53 am
Hey queue up against my anti-control warlock control warlock please. :)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on January 26, 2018, 09:39:00 am
So... I was playing arena..

(https://i.imgur.com/3zm1RkP.png)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 26, 2018, 06:30:53 pm
Ooh ooh, I see the play, ping your girl, play the demon, pass the turn.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on January 26, 2018, 08:11:53 pm
He probably missed lethal, 0/2 in arena what a joke of a player
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on January 27, 2018, 05:26:12 am
He probably missed lethal, 0/2 in arena what a joke of a player

farther than you've ever gotten
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on January 27, 2018, 05:30:51 am
He probably missed lethal, 0/2 in arena what a joke of a player

farther than you've ever gotten
When I played arena a lot I got to 10 wins three straight times
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 27, 2018, 04:37:22 pm
I've got something like 8 12-win arena runs, and I still haven't learned that it's a much better way to spend my gold than packs.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on January 29, 2018, 11:37:52 pm
Changes coming in February:

- Patches the Pirate no longer has Charge.
- Raza the Chained sets your hero power to (1) cost instead of (0).
- Corridor Creeper is going from 5-Attack to 2-Attack.
- Bonemare is going from 7-Cost to 8-Cost.

Woah.

I'm a little disappointed about Raza and Patches, I feel both cards were only made so OP by other cards available. Honestly I think DK Anduin doing only 1 damage per hero power rather than 2 would have been a better change for the game as a whole. And Patches was great for chip damage for miracle decks, now he's just a deck thinner, and he was nerfed because of Tempo Rogue, which just has a ton of OP cards.

What I'm most disappointed at is that the best deck in the Standard format right now is any variant of Control Warlock, and Raza + Anduin Priest is the only deck that hard countered it other than greedier Control Warlocks. CW got no nerfs, while the #1 thing that prevented it from being super abrasive was Priest.

I guess this was a nerf to balance out decks in Wild post-rotation, but it's not like those decks weren't already available and did all that much better than Naga Sea Witch + Giants decks, which I'm pretty sure still dominate Wild rn.

Another nail in the coffin imo. Blizzard has the ability to change cards after they're already made, and has not made good use of that ability imo. I've had beta access to Magic Arena for a little while now, and once they get their UI and economy problems sorted, I think it'll be decent. Gwent is good too but super simple still, they need to up the complexity in terms of card and deck interaction imo, but I think they've started making good progress towards that so far. Physical MTG remains top dog, I've begun spending nothing on virtual card games as a whole and more on MTG.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on January 30, 2018, 01:37:44 am
Raza priest was always an annoying deck that I wouldn’t mind seeing nerfed, they created plenty of counters to patches so I don’t see the point in nerfing him. However, it’s sad to see bonemare and corridor being nerfed due to the fact that they were good cards for FTP players.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on February 01, 2018, 03:46:52 am
Send iceblock to wild.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on February 01, 2018, 05:32:53 pm
Changes coming in February:

- Patches the Pirate no longer has Charge.

It took them this long to fix that?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 03, 2018, 06:22:29 am
Yeah, Patches with Charge was really good, but not necessarily busted. It was still a 1/1. It at least prevents any ol' deck from playing Southsea Captains to abuse the mechanic, which is good. I'd still put him in my Wild Rogues who just want to turn 1 remove a card from deck and get more board presence (aka two 1/1's turn 1).

Literally the only nerf I have a problem with is Raza, I think it wasn't correct. I think making his cost work poorly with a crucial turn would have been better, or making him like a 2/2. Honestly. I think the tempo turn-5 play and the really strong, on-curve 5/5 body were the parts that made the card SO good, despite it being an enabler for OTK and 2TKs. Like if it cost more, and more so, if its body was way weaker, it would have been a pretty sufficient nerf, because he'd no longer be able to deal with the board. At times, Raza can double-trade against aggro after turn 5. Turn 5 is the best time to play Raza (few other good plays available). Bad nerf imo, greatly hinders the card post rotation. People have been saying "THANK YOU BLIZZARD FOR THINKING ABOUT US LITTLE GUYS IN WILD" but I think A) most Wild players seem to be players who don't understand what Wild actually is or just plays it to put in Unstable Portals or Dr. Boom, and B) the change to the ladder system will balance out their issues way more than a nerf to Raza. More so, nerfing cards right before they hit rotation really wrecks their chances at working in Wild. I don't think post-nerf Wild Raza Priest to be a Tier 1 deck, even with Reno Jackson--it's either die before cheated out Giants kill you or survive to turn 8 and have the Death Knight to play that turn and win. I think the nerf is a much less harsh but only slightly less wrong Patron Warrior nerf. Warsong Commander was nerfed so late towards the first Wild Rotation that it was essentially Blizzard saying "let's ruin this deck completely so it's no longer playable in Wild, a format where all your old favorite decks are supposed to be playable." Raza Priest will be playable, but worse. It won't be nearly as unplayable as Patron Warrior, but it'll definitely suck in comparison.

TL;DR unban Warsong Commander lul

Send iceblock to wild.

noob spotted

jk. Ice Block just can't be rotated until Mage gets a considerable amount of ways to protect itself. You can take Arcane Artificer as a sign that Block might be put in HoF, but Artificer isn't enough on its own. 2 Artificers + Spell focus + Ice Barriers just doesn't compare to an Ice Block in Control Mage.

Btw, play MTG you dummies. Better game. If I could refund all the money I've ever spent on Hearthstone just to buy playsets of Snapcaster Mage, Cryptic Command, some of those good ass split lands, Ancestral Visions, Thoughtseizes, etc. etc. blah blah blah, I would 1,000,000/1,000,000 of the time.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on February 10, 2018, 05:40:06 am
Yeah, Patches with Charge was really good, but not necessarily busted. It was still a 1/1. It at least prevents any ol' deck from playing Southsea Captains to abuse the mechanic, which is good. I'd still put him in my Wild Rogues who just want to turn 1 remove a card from deck and get more board presence (aka two 1/1's turn 1).

Literally the only nerf I have a problem with is Raza, I think it wasn't correct. I think making his cost work poorly with a crucial turn would have been better, or making him like a 2/2. Honestly. I think the tempo turn-5 play and the really strong, on-curve 5/5 body were the parts that made the card SO good, despite it being an enabler for OTK and 2TKs. Like if it cost more, and more so, if its body was way weaker, it would have been a pretty sufficient nerf, because he'd no longer be able to deal with the board. At times, Raza can double-trade against aggro after turn 5. Turn 5 is the best time to play Raza (few other good plays available). Bad nerf imo, greatly hinders the card post rotation. People have been saying "THANK YOU BLIZZARD FOR THINKING ABOUT US LITTLE GUYS IN WILD" but I think A) most Wild players seem to be players who don't understand what Wild actually is or just plays it to put in Unstable Portals or Dr. Boom, and B) the change to the ladder system will balance out their issues way more than a nerf to Raza. More so, nerfing cards right before they hit rotation really wrecks their chances at working in Wild. I don't think post-nerf Wild Raza Priest to be a Tier 1 deck, even with Reno Jackson--it's either die before cheated out Giants kill you or survive to turn 8 and have the Death Knight to play that turn and win. I think the nerf is a much less harsh but only slightly less wrong Patron Warrior nerf. Warsong Commander was nerfed so late towards the first Wild Rotation that it was essentially Blizzard saying "let's ruin this deck completely so it's no longer playable in Wild, a format where all your old favorite decks are supposed to be playable." Raza Priest will be playable, but worse. It won't be nearly as unplayable as Patron Warrior, but it'll definitely suck in comparison.

TL;DR unban Warsong Commander lul

Send iceblock to wild.

noob spotted

jk. Ice Block just can't be rotated until Mage gets a considerable amount of ways to protect itself. You can take Arcane Artificer as a sign that Block might be put in HoF, but Artificer isn't enough on its own. 2 Artificers + Spell focus + Ice Barriers just doesn't compare to an Ice Block in Control Mage.

Btw, play MTG you dummies. Better game. If I could refund all the money I've ever spent on Hearthstone just to buy playsets of Snapcaster Mage, Cryptic Command, some of those good ass split lands, Ancestral Visions, Thoughtseizes, etc. etc. blah blah blah, I would 1,000,000/1,000,000 of the time.

Lol, just told me that it can't be rotated until mage gets a considerable amount of ways to protect itself and then countered your own opinion for me by stating that mage has a considerable amount of ways to protect itself. Considering the amount of board control they already have as well as artificers, dk jaina, etc they'd be fine without iceblock. The only other reasonable option would be for Blizzard to buff secret counters or create better options for secret counters. I find myself trying to tech in 1 or 2 secret keepers in my control lock deck.

I miss when Hearthstone had far more variety instead of creating 1 or 2 ultra-powerful meta defining cards each expansion and then having everyone build their decks around it. They made a good decision by nerfing Patches as that limited their room to design more pirates since most people generally toss in 1 or 2 cheap pirates to pull him.

edit: Inner fire priest is still and will always be a cancer deck. Please burn it.

edit edit: Someone suggested that a good way to nerf iceblock would be to take hypothermia from WoW and implement it into Hearthstone. If you use Iceblock then you can't play another one on the next turn. That sounds like a great way to balance it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 10, 2018, 07:35:39 pm
Lol, actually I didn't contradict myself. I said what they're getting is a sign that they can potentially rotate Ice Block in the future, but they're not there yet--I've been playing a ton of Control Mage this week and it wouldn't get by without Blocks, even with a really heavy focus on removal and board control. But Mage is getting close to not needing it, it's just that they'd have to maintain how Mage can stay alive with their minimal available healing throughout rotation cycles (imagine post-rotation after DK, Artificer, and Block are all gone). And having paid attention to card game design during the last few years, I can tell they're trying to ween away from not only Ice Block in Control Mage, but Control Mage entirely (as the main archetype of the class), trying to get Mage back to playing Tempo, like old Mechs. People build decks based off what they know, it takes a while for people to pick up on card combos that are blatantly there--Patron Warrior, for example, took MONTHS before someone figured out that the deck could even exist, let alone be really good. Blizzard wants people to stop thinking of Mage as a Control-oriented class before they ban Ice Block, and hell, I'd MUCH rather them rotate it than nerf it to oblivion.

Speaking of which, I think I'm going to start a (new) petition to "unban" Warsong Commander and rotate it to Wild. Their nerfs to the standard cards really do not effect Wild in the slightest, and yet there's super problematic cards already ruining Wild and have been fucking it over for months. They seriously need to fix Barnes and Naga Sea Witch, and I personally think it's time to buff old cards that were nerfed into memes.

 - Warsong Commander should give things charge like it used to, not buff Charge minions (aka doing nothing).
 - Blade Flurry should have definitely cost more than 2 (4-6 is right), but it damaging heroes was how Maly Rogue existed. Newer versions just don't work as well as the old school version, and the deck has potential in Wild to be a Tier 2-1 deck without being oppressive now that it has Kingsbane.
 - Nat Pagle was nerfed waaaay back in like beta or alpha, but I think it was wrongly. I guess they wanted to intentionally have BAD legendaries, because he used to have a 50% chance to draw a card at the end of your turn instead of the start. I guess they didn't want a 2-mana 0/4 Mana Tide Totem for all classes that only functions 1/2 of the time, but I think it's totally fine.
 - Molten Giant is definitely a problem but only through Naga Sea Witch. In other decks, it's unplayable, but unfairly so. Molten Giant should have been nerfed to cost at most 22, but I don't think 20 was wrong. Handlock was a favorite of people, Renolock kind of changed the game but Handlock really was a different experience, and even nowadays you wouldn't put a Molten in Renolock because it's just that unplayable. Playing giants and drakes into Arguses and Sunfurys just isn't good anymore, and it's a shame, because I think old Handlock could be a reasonable way to beat Naga + Giants.
 - Keeper of the Grove should get its 2 lost health back. They based the nerf purely off of how much the card was being played, but I guess they ignored how Mages always run Arcane Intellect and Rogues almost always run Backstabs, Saps, AND Eviscerates (pre-Keleseth). I'd love old Keeper so much in Wild because Druid needs something they can invest to take out 2-3 enemy aggro creatures. There's a deck near and dear to me called Infinity Druid, which runs a mix of Taunts, Deathrattles, and Mill (Deathlords, Sludge Belchers, Astral Tigers, Malorne, N'Zoth, Hadronox, Naturalize, Coldlights, The Darkness, etc.), and it would probably succeed more with just one 2/4 Keeper that can help stem the tides after a Deathlord and before a Sludge Belcher.
 - Dreadsteed was a really fun card and they nerfed it in order to add a common card that saw no constructed play. Deathspeaker should instead say "Battlecry: Give a friendly minion Immune until this dies." which wouldn't make Knife Juggler + Defile + Dread + Death that terrible. Terrible, terrible move on Blizzards part, no idea what they were thinking there.




I don't see Hearthstone holding up well post-rotation, but it all depends on the impact of the next set. It's a problem though that they print sets with individual purpose--in other words, I'll give an example. Magic the Gathering did things in pairs for a long time, up until the last set, where 2-3 sets were part of a "block" where the second and third sets of the block were continuations of the same story and world as the first set of the block, and often some stories and game concepts carried over from one block to another. This meant that they could reinforce archetypes that weren't as strong as they hoped them to be or prevent strong archetypes from breaking the meta more so, by making tiny tweaks to the 2nd/3rd sets before release. I think the biggest place something like this was ever needed in Hearthstone was Whispers of the Old Gods. That set was basically how they parallel to the Battle for Zendikar block (2015) and the Shadows over Innistrad block (2016), which both had to do with these creatures called the Eldrazi, which are like a mix between Lovecraftian old ones and the Crystalline Entity from Star Trek. They were basically the Old Gods of Hearthstone--they were big, they did a ton, but they were done differently. There were three Eldrazi Titans, and each were printed as two different variants over the course of the game, with each version of a Titan doing something different but thematically the same, giving them "character" despite not really having any. Anyway, these cards are still playable in Modern (the Wild format of MTG), but you don't see the Old Gods as much as you used to. Sure, Y'Shaarj was played more than ever with Big Priest coming around, and N'Zoth is always playable in Deathrattle-heavy decks, and Yogg-Saron was playable for quite some time before he was nerfed pretty considerably, but the one I'm specifically thinking of is C'Thun. When WotOG came out, C'Thun decks were BIG. Midrange C'Thun Druid was fairly popular, C'Thun Tempo Mage saw a little play, C'Thun Control Warrior was a popular and strong archetype, and even C'Thun Rogue popped up after a little while and was pretty decent. But none of these decks are played, at all, in Standard or Wild. This is because C'Thun decks saw 0 support and hadn't had a ton of options available to begin with. Brann was a staple in a lot of C'Thun decks, but the problem with Wild is that it's not balanced. Because C'Thun had no further support given after WotOG, it's extremely hard to build a Wild C'Thun deck that both techs against the meta-game, stays alive, and pulls off big C'Thuns, and between those things, you're likely not going to be doing any of them as much as you're going to need to. N'Zoth will always get support in Deathrattle cards, Y'Shaarj will always get support in big creatures, and Yogg-Saron will always get support in spells (even though he's not the miracle god he once was). But C'Thun will likely never get support that helps it dramatically. MTG's Modern format has something like 35 cards that are banned, which is actually a ton despite there being SO many more Magic cards ever printed than Hearthstone cards, and Modern is one of the game's favorite formats right now, with a lot of people saying it's at its golden age now, because you can play pretty much anything and have reasonable success with it, and that's to thank a healthy card pool and a smart ban list. But in Hearthstone, Wild has even less viable decks than Standard, it seems. There's clearly a problem with that and Blizzard needs to act fast with a major rotation coming that'll send a lot of people who used to spend a ton on the game and have spent less and less the passed few expansions, like myself, to Wild, or they're going to lose a significant portion of the playerbase who doesn't like where the game is at right now.

tl;dr: uhhhhhhh hearthstone players are introvert spergs and magic players are extrovert gods lololololol
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Lurvy on February 10, 2018, 11:28:07 pm
I miss dragon warrior
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 10, 2018, 11:52:38 pm
Dragon Warrior was good in Standard but still functional in Wild I'm sure. I haven't tried it since I nearly hit Legend with it on stream like a year ago but there's no reason that it'd be bad. It'd suck against Giants but that's about it.

Speaking of which, I built a Giant-killer today, and it's actually pretty good. It's probably the only viable C'Thun deck in this current Wild meta. Valeera isn't needed; another Blade of C'Thun or Elven Minstrel is probably better, but I only have one of each.

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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on February 10, 2018, 11:55:01 pm
Krastinov misses pirate warrior
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Krastinov on February 11, 2018, 12:41:04 am
Krastinov misses pirate warrior

No, I miss my shadowform inspire deck.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 11, 2018, 12:47:13 am
lol actually top taste

I legit just miss patron warrior. I want it back.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on February 11, 2018, 12:57:07 am
I miss curving out pefectly with mech mage
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on February 11, 2018, 06:38:59 am
Spoiler
Lol, actually I didn't contradict myself. I said what they're getting is a sign that they can potentially rotate Ice Block in the future, but they're not there yet--I've been playing a ton of Control Mage this week and it wouldn't get by without Blocks, even with a really heavy focus on removal and board control. But Mage is getting close to not needing it, it's just that they'd have to maintain how Mage can stay alive with their minimal available healing throughout rotation cycles (imagine post-rotation after DK, Artificer, and Block are all gone). And having paid attention to card game design during the last few years, I can tell they're trying to ween away from not only Ice Block in Control Mage, but Control Mage entirely (as the main archetype of the class), trying to get Mage back to playing Tempo, like old Mechs. People build decks based off what they know, it takes a while for people to pick up on card combos that are blatantly there--Patron Warrior, for example, took MONTHS before someone figured out that the deck could even exist, let alone be really good. Blizzard wants people to stop thinking of Mage as a Control-oriented class before they ban Ice Block, and hell, I'd MUCH rather them rotate it than nerf it to oblivion.

Speaking of which, I think I'm going to start a (new) petition to "unban" Warsong Commander and rotate it to Wild. Their nerfs to the standard cards really do not effect Wild in the slightest, and yet there's super problematic cards already ruining Wild and have been fucking it over for months. They seriously need to fix Barnes and Naga Sea Witch, and I personally think it's time to buff old cards that were nerfed into memes.

 - Warsong Commander should give things charge like it used to, not buff Charge minions (aka doing nothing).
 - Blade Flurry should have definitely cost more than 2 (4-6 is right), but it damaging heroes was how Maly Rogue existed. Newer versions just don't work as well as the old school version, and the deck has potential in Wild to be a Tier 2-1 deck without being oppressive now that it has Kingsbane.
 - Nat Pagle was nerfed waaaay back in like beta or alpha, but I think it was wrongly. I guess they wanted to intentionally have BAD legendaries, because he used to have a 50% chance to draw a card at the end of your turn instead of the start. I guess they didn't want a 2-mana 0/4 Mana Tide Totem for all classes that only functions 1/2 of the time, but I think it's totally fine.
 - Molten Giant is definitely a problem but only through Naga Sea Witch. In other decks, it's unplayable, but unfairly so. Molten Giant should have been nerfed to cost at most 22, but I don't think 20 was wrong. Handlock was a favorite of people, Renolock kind of changed the game but Handlock really was a different experience, and even nowadays you wouldn't put a Molten in Renolock because it's just that unplayable. Playing giants and drakes into Arguses and Sunfurys just isn't good anymore, and it's a shame, because I think old Handlock could be a reasonable way to beat Naga + Giants.
 - Keeper of the Grove should get its 2 lost health back. They based the nerf purely off of how much the card was being played, but I guess they ignored how Mages always run Arcane Intellect and Rogues almost always run Backstabs, Saps, AND Eviscerates (pre-Keleseth). I'd love old Keeper so much in Wild because Druid needs something they can invest to take out 2-3 enemy aggro creatures. There's a deck near and dear to me called Infinity Druid, which runs a mix of Taunts, Deathrattles, and Mill (Deathlords, Sludge Belchers, Astral Tigers, Malorne, N'Zoth, Hadronox, Naturalize, Coldlights, The Darkness, etc.), and it would probably succeed more with just one 2/4 Keeper that can help stem the tides after a Deathlord and before a Sludge Belcher.
 - Dreadsteed was a really fun card and they nerfed it in order to add a common card that saw no constructed play. Deathspeaker should instead say "Battlecry: Give a friendly minion Immune until this dies." which wouldn't make Knife Juggler + Defile + Dread + Death that terrible. Terrible, terrible move on Blizzards part, no idea what they were thinking there.




I don't see Hearthstone holding up well post-rotation, but it all depends on the impact of the next set. It's a problem though that they print sets with individual purpose--in other words, I'll give an example. Magic the Gathering did things in pairs for a long time, up until the last set, where 2-3 sets were part of a "block" where the second and third sets of the block were continuations of the same story and world as the first set of the block, and often some stories and game concepts carried over from one block to another. This meant that they could reinforce archetypes that weren't as strong as they hoped them to be or prevent strong archetypes from breaking the meta more so, by making tiny tweaks to the 2nd/3rd sets before release. I think the biggest place something like this was ever needed in Hearthstone was Whispers of the Old Gods. That set was basically how they parallel to the Battle for Zendikar block (2015) and the Shadows over Innistrad block (2016), which both had to do with these creatures called the Eldrazi, which are like a mix between Lovecraftian old ones and the Crystalline Entity from Star Trek. They were basically the Old Gods of Hearthstone--they were big, they did a ton, but they were done differently. There were three Eldrazi Titans, and each were printed as two different variants over the course of the game, with each version of a Titan doing something different but thematically the same, giving them "character" despite not really having any. Anyway, these cards are still playable in Modern (the Wild format of MTG), but you don't see the Old Gods as much as you used to. Sure, Y'Shaarj was played more than ever with Big Priest coming around, and N'Zoth is always playable in Deathrattle-heavy decks, and Yogg-Saron was playable for quite some time before he was nerfed pretty considerably, but the one I'm specifically thinking of is C'Thun. When WotOG came out, C'Thun decks were BIG. Midrange C'Thun Druid was fairly popular, C'Thun Tempo Mage saw a little play, C'Thun Control Warrior was a popular and strong archetype, and even C'Thun Rogue popped up after a little while and was pretty decent. But none of these decks are played, at all, in Standard or Wild. This is because C'Thun decks saw 0 support and hadn't had a ton of options available to begin with. Brann was a staple in a lot of C'Thun decks, but the problem with Wild is that it's not balanced. Because C'Thun had no further support given after WotOG, it's extremely hard to build a Wild C'Thun deck that both techs against the meta-game, stays alive, and pulls off big C'Thuns, and between those things, you're likely not going to be doing any of them as much as you're going to need to. N'Zoth will always get support in Deathrattle cards, Y'Shaarj will always get support in big creatures, and Yogg-Saron will always get support in spells (even though he's not the miracle god he once was). But C'Thun will likely never get support that helps it dramatically. MTG's Modern format has something like 35 cards that are banned, which is actually a ton despite there being SO many more Magic cards ever printed than Hearthstone cards, and Modern is one of the game's favorite formats right now, with a lot of people saying it's at its golden age now, because you can play pretty much anything and have reasonable success with it, and that's to thank a healthy card pool and a smart ban list. But in Hearthstone, Wild has even less viable decks than Standard, it seems. There's clearly a problem with that and Blizzard needs to act fast with a major rotation coming that'll send a lot of people who used to spend a ton on the game and have spent less and less the passed few expansions, like myself, to Wild, or they're going to lose a significant portion of the playerbase who doesn't like where the game is at right now.

tl;dr: uhhhhhhh hearthstone players are introvert spergs and magic players are extrovert gods lololololol
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Audiate be sittin here writin' entire wikipedia articles n shit lmao
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 11, 2018, 07:33:22 am
mech mage took me to rank 5 once
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 14, 2018, 03:43:18 am
these days all i do is go to college and play card games and csgo xd

mech mage required no skill js
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on February 14, 2018, 08:28:44 am
these days all i do is go to college and play card games and csgo xd

mech mage required no skill js
that's why you play it
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Windflower on February 14, 2018, 04:06:42 pm
mech mage required no skill js
the only thing this game requires is money
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on February 14, 2018, 09:16:18 pm
true, hs got way harder when i stopped spending money, i cant break 12 these days even when i try

with new ladder rules ill probably hit legend in a few months
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 05, 2018, 11:04:25 pm
Interesting Hall of Fame picks, hopefully they'll begin to ween off of Basic and Classic as they revamp their new player experience the way it should be. I'm glad for the changes except I didn't feel like Ice Block has sufficient replacement just yet to justify taking it away from Control Mage, and I fear their natural response is to add more removal, which will be either too bad to see play or too good and ruin arena even more. Molten Giant is a great unnerf, I've been waiting for it for a long time, but I'm disappointed they didn't give the same treatment to Warsong Commander or Force of Nature, because those two cards being unnerfed and moved to wild would absolutely shake up the meta game and let even more old school, iconic decks become playable again.

I'm definitely happy they're finally introducing a tournament mode. It's something I remember wanting since Blackrock Mountain, not long after I first started playing the game. Hopefully it's intuitive enough to make IRL (or online but organized) Hearthstone play more accessible. Hopefully it wastes no time and gets people playing as much as possible, or give the option to let players have breaks. I know sideboarding isn't really a think in HS, even on the pro-scene, but maybe something like it could be incorporated for the tournament mode as an optional thing, would be interesting.

There's a Discord group called "Pauper Hearthstone" which is something I'd love to see make its way into Hearthstone's in-game system, it's based off of MtG's previously Online-"exclusive" format that's been growing lately, Pauper, in which essentially all cards from all sets are allowed to be played as long as they're of the "common" rarity. This opens the way for cheap decks and really classic, playing with your friends after school experiences, and I think it's a great introduction for new players, so hopefully Hearthstone learns from it and embraces it as MTG has. I'm particularly excited about the tournament mode because it'd make Pauper Hearthstone that much more viable as a way to play the game.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 06, 2018, 02:04:58 am
Just started the game, quite enjoying it so far. Any chance you guys would have beginner guides which help you making basic/regular decks. That is my main concern so far, getting a shit amount of cards and no idea which one I should pick. I play with the Mage mainly so far, since they get you to start with it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on March 06, 2018, 02:56:12 am
Just started the game, quite enjoying it so far. Any chance you guys would have beginner guides which help you making basic/regular decks. That is my main concern so far, getting a shit amount of cards and no idea which one I should pick. I play with the Mage mainly so far, since they get you to start with it.
I would stick with a basic mage deck on the basis of mage having the most powerful basic class cards. With this deck I’d stick to value-trading and using your spells efficiently.


https://www.icy-veins.com/hearthstone/basic-mage-deck
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 06, 2018, 02:59:02 am
Typically what I was looking for, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on March 06, 2018, 03:03:07 am
np! If you haven’t already I’d play the free solo(s?) to get firelands portal, great card!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 06, 2018, 04:54:44 am
Yeah, definitely do what free adventure content you have access to. Avoid getting packs from Whispers of the Old Gods or Mean Streets of Gadgetzan, they'll be rotating to Wild and if you're F2P you likely won't enjoy Wild much for quite a while. It's actually a good time to start since rotation is really close, which means you'll likely see a really good meta game and the game will overall be the least demanding of time and money (Blizz has been pushing the "F2P experience" hard lately so chances are you'll get a free legendary from the upcoming set when it launches).

Also, don't make the mistake I made at first, go straight into Ranked. The Casual mode only exists for players looking to play really weird decks and not risk losing their placement on the ladder--you'll see a lot of high skill players in Casual during certain times of the month because they want to play goofy decks but not lose their legend rankings. Try to make friends quickly, there's a really great quest that just requires you to play a game with a friend that gives both players 80g, and another quest that gives you a Classic pack for spectating a friend's game that they end up winning. Also, you can now complete quests with friends, which is sometimes super useful when you're stuck with three really annoying quests and need to knock them out quickly.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 06, 2018, 04:18:57 pm
I assume by 'Free solo(s)' you mean Practices and Dungeons. Already doing that, been trying Kobolds & Catacombs a lot but since you get a starting decks with basic cards you can't change nor choose, it really goes down to how well you use your cards but also what sort of bonuses you get from loot.

I am on my 10th Dungeon's run and I can't get past the 6th boss, no matter what I do - and this while drawing good cards. Might try some Experts Practices as this gets a bit frustrating!



Also thanks for the advice Audiate, not sure I will be able to do everything you told me but atleast I have a better idea.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 07, 2018, 02:43:36 am
Practices are just practices, try to do what solo adventure content is available. I THINK the first thing for One Night in Karazhan is free and I'm PRETTY sure Knights of the Frozen Throne is all free.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 07, 2018, 08:10:41 pm
Yeah fair enough. I just finished all the practices anyways, defeated all classes in Normal and Expert and received the rewards coming with it. So I am going to focus on Free Adventures mainly. So far I have access to three different ones:

Kobolds & Katacombs - That's the only I have tried so far. Today I managed to get to the 7th Boss, leaving him to 17HP before he eventually finishes me off. Would like to try and finish it with the Mage before I eventually get to the other adventures.

When it comes to the The Frozen Throne, I have access to 'Icecrow' and for Karazhan, the 'Normal' mod only. Should I start them?

Also would you advice sparing my golds (Got 800g so far) or use them to buy cheap packs at the shop straight away?



@Oatmeal.

Can't thank you enough for the link you gave me, so useful for a new player like me and I am really enjoying the basic mage deck the website is suggesting. Will probably check it more when I start playing other classes.

@Audiate

Listened to your advice, played a few Casuals for fun but focusing on Ranked mainly now, I am on 3 victory out of the 5 required so far.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 07, 2018, 08:33:14 pm
Yes, do the free mission available for Karazhan and go through Icecrown, which is all free. Whether you want to start getting Classic packs or save for the next expansion is up to you. Kobolds and Catacombs' single player content is more just for fun, it's nice to play but won't reward you with stuff, I'm pretty sure.

Keep in mind: Classic cards GENERALLY stay available forever, they'll always be usable in Standard, except for a few select ones chosen to go to Wild (the format where all cards are playable, not just the newest) every year or so in order to keep Standard more fresh. For the cards that get rotated to Wild that you happen to collect, you'll be able to disenchant them for their full value when the time comes, so there's no real downside to "investing" into Classic. There's also a major expansion coming out very soon, you might want to save up for that, but what you should keep some gold aside for right now is Arena. I'm not a huge fan of the gamemode personally, but Arena will let you draft cards for a deck, do as well as you can with it against similar decks, and then get rewards based on how well you do. If you go 0-3, you'll at least receive a card pack, but as you learn and improve in the game you should begin to do better and receive more rewards. Also, every week there's a Tavern Brawl, which is just a different way to play the game, and if you win one game of it you'll get a free card pack, so it's worth doing (I think the new one starts every Wednesday and ends around Monday).

Protip: There's a hidden "pity counter" for legendaries when opening packs. The more packs you open of a specific type in a row, the higher chance you'll get to open a legendary. It basically forces a Legendary 99% of the time after 40 packs of the same type. So in other words, if you have 5 Classic packs, 2 K&C packs, and 1 Un'Goro pack, open your Classic packs first, and if you get no legendaries, just wait on opening the other packs until you get more Classic packs. If you open a K&C or Un'Goro pack, you'll reset the pity timer, and will technically be less likely to open a legendary from a pack.

I think that's all the advice I can give. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 07, 2018, 08:45:13 pm
Read everything, thanks again for all those precious advices. Hopefully it will grant me a better start than what I would normally have and keep me interested in the game even more!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on March 07, 2018, 09:02:21 pm
If you want to build your collection/coins/dust up I strongly recommend arena. However, arena skill imo is card/game knowledge so maybe move onto that once you have a better understanding of the game. If you do choose to play arena or are given a free run use the overwolf arena app, very helpful!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 10, 2018, 01:08:01 am
Tried the free run in the Arena mod, just to see what it was. Clearly I will need a better understanding from the cards to figure it out and win some.

I am ranked 22 so far, with a 3 win streaks but I suppose that does not mean much as you cannot de-rank yet, so it goes down to just spamming games and you will eventually win some. Losing clearly more games than I win yet I have a feeling of slightly improving and that games as that fantastic opportunity coming with each card games to simply blame your defeat on 'luck'.  ::)

Also finished my first dungeon, finally! Only took me a fucking 121 boss to defeat. Still a bit disappointed you don't get a single reward for clearling a whole dungeaon with one class.

Spoiler
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Also tried the Prologue of Icecrown, the second adventures available for free, absolutely loving it. Forgot how WoW universe was so damn interesting.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Keita on March 10, 2018, 01:48:00 am
sooner or later hearthstone will take ur money
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 10, 2018, 02:02:51 am
sooner or later hearthstone will take ur money
sooner rather than later
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 10, 2018, 06:49:16 am
hey dan, how do you feel about coldlight oracle being rotated?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on March 10, 2018, 07:07:45 am
hey dan, how do you feel about coldlight oracle being rotated?
there's still exodia
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 10, 2018, 09:43:14 pm
I've been playing Reno Exodia in Wild and it's way better than it should be.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 12, 2018, 02:48:34 pm
sooner or later hearthstone will take ur money
sooner rather than later

Was indeed sooner rather than later, even though I actually didn't spend any money - and don't plan to. That being said, slowly but surely I am starting to feel the limitation in playing with what the game gives you for free.

When it comes to ranked games, it indeed brings you experience but I am starting to know the basic Mage deck by heart and it still doesn't give me enough of a signifant advantage towards opponents of arguably the same rank. I am Level 36 and I can't go higher than Rank 19, no matter what I do or which tactics I try. Maybe that's is just me being wrong and I simply need to play more to go further into the rankings, I suppose future will tell. And even if I feel like I can't go further, atleast I have other classes to try out.

But even with the Adventure Contents, it's really hard to go anywhere. The Frozen's Throne first boss, right after the Prologue, is extremly hard to beat (not to mention impossible) if you don't have special cards which can help you stealing some from him. I will try it later on with other classes but there is no way I can get anywhere near with the basic mage deck. And Karazhan's aventure is to be unlocked with golds if you want to go further than the Prologue, which means I am fucked either way.

I feel like I have been complaining a lot and been stating the obvious quite a lot right here. Don't want to give the impression I am not enjoying the game, because I truly do, it is really addictive and honestly I love the universe but its rough for beginners who have no intention to invest money into it. I will probably try out other classes and get them as high as I can, keep my golds to unlock Adventure contents and maybe buy a few decks or try my luck in the arena if I have still some left, that's still good enough to me, atleast for now.

I also still have to discover what's the 'wild' mod and how you access it, if you can aquire arcane dust by other way but disenchanting cards and many other things but the website Oatmel gave me + the Hearstone Wikia should be enough to anwser these. 
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 12, 2018, 08:48:14 pm
I understand where you're coming from, and though it won't fix your problems, keep in mind that the next expansion that comes out will force three older expansions to rotate to Wild, meaning you'll need considerably less to do well. From here on I'd probably save your gold for either future Arena runs when you better know the game (a future update is going to make the draft give you options based on their power levels rather than rarity which should make drafting both easier and sort of more balanced), or packs of the next expansion.

A big part of playing F2P is knowing when you stop buying packs and start saving for the next expansions. Every set tends to have a few cards you really kind of need.

I actually didn't realize, but the new expansion was announced! As people had guessed, it's a spooky forest set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4roAY-6Lrdk

https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/4439-the-witchwood-is-hearthstones-next-expansion

Apparently they're already making new hero cards??? Could be super interesting, I just didn't anticipate that happening so soon. The Odds/Evens design is something people thought about for a while but I'm shocked it's actually happening because of the ramifications of taking away tempo and curve from your deck is a terrible downside. Interesting about Genn Greymane finally getting in, but it's odd that he's been added just as Raza rotates, and in Wild, the two cards don't work together to get your Hero Power to (0). I'm more excited about Baku because Justicar Trueheart was one of my favorite cards as a big fan of Control/Fatigue Warrior, but giving up Executes, Slams, the 4-cost weapons, Dirty Rats, Sylvanas, N'Zoth, etc. seems real rough. I'd just play Trueheart instead. Azalina Soulthief just seems like a gimmick card to me. I'm most excited though about Rush and Echo, particularly Echo, because it could potentially fill the void for decks running Baku or Genn, especially if there's an OP 1-cost or OP 2-cost Echo card. Quest Warrior should be pretty interesting this set.

Actually, clarification, Hagatha is apparently going to be the only Hero card in the set, which is SUPER interesting, and I'm kind of interested in their design choice with that. Could this mean that legendary Weapons and Heroes will appear in sets to come independent of other stuff, and that KotFT and K&C were just to get everyone familiar with them? That's a move braver than what I would have expected of Blizzard, so that's actually pretty reassuring.

Also, every class is getting two legendaries, but not necessarily heroes--could mean new weapons, multiple legendary creatures, but it sounds interesting for sure. The pre-purchase deal is also interesting this time around, it's 70 packs for the price of 50, which I think is the best deal they've done so far. Pretty interesting to see this change.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Golden. on March 13, 2018, 01:00:23 pm
Draw is bad, hand is sucky, always second, never lucky
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Keita on March 13, 2018, 07:40:31 pm
fuck sakes this is going to get me back in to hs
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 13, 2018, 10:48:42 pm
If you're curious about anything to do with the next set, here you go.

https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/4442-all-the-witchwood-expansion-and-card

I don't see it on there, but apparently you'll get a free pack every day you complete a quest leading up to the expansion. The info was datamined, you'll be able to get about 4 Witchwood packs and up to 16! K&C packs, just complete a quest each day. I'd recommend trying to keep 2 quests available each day and only doing your third up until the event so you can complete the easiest quest you have each day to make getting those annoying quests done much easier.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 28, 2018, 08:10:21 pm
Leaks underway, a couple kinda neat cards, mostly filler crap so far. Just wanted to remind people that from now until the expansion release you get a free pack whenever you complete a quest in addition to the quest's reward. Some are of the new set, the others are of random Year of the Mammoth packs. I recommend not opening any until the event is over, then open the packs in order of their set, to try to maximize the pity counter (open all of one set, then all of another, then all of another, and end with the Witchwood packs and keep opening Witchwood packs at least until you get a legendary from it).
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Keita on March 28, 2018, 08:29:11 pm
i think im going to pre order Witchwood, first time i spend anything on hs for like a 1year
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on March 28, 2018, 09:38:55 pm
Same, the value is actually pretty good, I'm just waiting to see more cards first.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 13, 2018, 09:17:32 pm
Didn't get the prepurchase, didn't think the value was worth it enough to justify getting it. And I got rewarded, because one of the only things I cared about getting was Darius Crowley, and I got him for free lol. Plus I got 8000 dust from the HoF rotation, so I can basically craft everything I want. How's the rotation going for you?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on April 13, 2018, 11:17:02 pm
I like the new mechanic where your battlecrys and spells are cast by the minions that can do it. Might craft a deck like that once the meta sets in
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Keita on April 13, 2018, 11:21:37 pm
ngl i didn't pre purchase it either
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 15, 2018, 02:53:56 am
@Oatmeal Shudderwock? He's pretty fun. There's a seemingly pretty effective OTK deck with Saronite Chaingang + Lifedrinker + Grumble, and I think something else. it's pretty great since it will make you really hard to kill and give you a high probability of winning even if the combo doesn't OTK, which is good because it seems the order of Shudderwock's copies are in a random order every time. I made a variant of it in Wild that uses C'Thun cards and Reno Jackson, it's pretty nutty. I don't think he'll stay popular forever, but he's practically a Yogg, and can literally become a Yogg if you play Yogg before it. So that's fun.

I'm tempted to build this list, I think I'm only 3200 dust off from it, which is fine, since I have 5700+ atm with something like 20 packs to open. I theorycrafted it during spoiler season, I'm sure it's far from perfect but it looks a lot of fun on paper. Over half the deck is draw, removal, and stabilization, and the rest is just ways to burst. Not 100% sure about Thaurissan or Woecleaver or the lack of any Brawls but that's an easy change to make. Don Hon'Cho might be worth adding in just for the combo with Leeroy + Inner Rage + Sudden Genesis.

Spoiler
### patronless
# Class: Warrior
# Format: Wild
#
# 1x (0) Inner Rage
# 1x (1) Blood To Ichor
# 2x (1) Whirlwind
# 1x (2) Battle Rage
# 2x (2) Execute
# 2x (2) Rampage
# 1x (2) Slam
# 1x (2) Sleep with the Fishes
# 2x (2) Warpath
# 1x (2) Woodcutter's Axe
# 2x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 1x (3) Bash
# 1x (3) Shield Block
# 2x (4) Axe Flinger
# 2x (4) Blood Razor
# 1x (5) Darius Crowley
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Sudden Genesis
# 1x (6) Emperor Thaurissan
# 1x (7) Blackhowl Gunspire
# 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream
# 1x (8) Woecleaver
# 1x (9) Master Oakheart
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on April 15, 2018, 03:22:31 am
Yes that is the card, pretty cool design
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 23, 2018, 04:57:59 am
I forgot to mention earlier for those who might be interested, but Ben Brode, and Hamilton Chu (possibly others?), are no longer working for Blizzard, and no one really knows why. Brode claims he was leaving to create his own company, but didn't really explain what his goals would be, why he chose to, or what type of games he'd be making, and it's a pretty awkward timing. Blizzard hasn't said anything afaik, just Brode, and up until the 17th-18th he was promoting stuff for Hearthstone on his Twitter. So who knows what's going on lol. Blizzard hasn't announced a new lead game designer yet, but given that Brode apparently had little to do with actual game design at the point of his leaving, this could mean a lot for the team because a potentially influential member of the development team could end up being new lead and doing less actual game design, which could be for the better or worse. Brode was public about his disappointment with Shudderwock + Grumble + Saronite all being in Standard and he considered it way too strong apparently; he said that it needed to change immediately, and "they" said no, it's shipping to Witchwood. So maybe he was boxed out or something, who knows, less people probably care. Hopefully Hearthstone can progress forward in the future, it's at a point of really rapid blossoming in terms of card and game design, so perhaps they'll expand the game further under new leadership.

In other news, I went to a Magic the Gathering: Dominaria prerelease event Friday, my first one actually, and it was fantastic--some of the best fun I've had in a card game to date (pulling 3 cards that cost $40 in total for a $20 event was a big plus), if you've never done it before look into it. This one has come and gone this weekend but there's always future ones. The Dominaria draft is mostly starting next weekend, for those who only played Hearthstone-style games, it's kinda like a group arena draft, here's some info on them: https://magic.wizards.com/en/event-types/draft-weekend
I really encourage trying it, you don't need to be an expert at the game but it definitely helps to learn the basics, and there's plenty of introductions on how to play around the internet (I learned the basics playing Magic Duels, though it's arguably a pretty bad introduction). The reason I'm encouraging it so strongly is that this set is just an AMAZING limited set (aka building a deck exclusively with the packs you have available to you for the event), one that people will be talking about and continuing to do drafts of for years, and it's a great introduction to the game. You can find local places to play through that link.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Oatmeal on April 23, 2018, 07:37:08 am
didnt really see ben brode leaving, pretty sad he seemed passionate about the game. opened one pack and got prince liam and have been playing an aggro pally since
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Audiate on April 27, 2018, 06:48:47 am
It's pretty accepted (though presumed) that he left because he no longer had much of a role in Hearthstone's existence and wanted to go back to actually creating things. Monster Hunt is out and it's actually much more fun than Dungeon Run in my opinion. I so far played only Tess and Crowley and both have some super interesting mechanics.

Honestly the concept of it (and Blackhowl Gunspire) has me so interested that I'd really love to see a game some day like Crowley's interactions, where players just accumulate resources and invest in their assets, like cannons, walls and defenses, troops, maybe watchtowers that can get a read on what your opponents have or are doing. Like a mix between a card game, a deck building game, a turn based or RTS strategy, a city building game, etc., kinda like a multiplayer Slay the Spire but with permanents rather than nonpermanents. Maybe that's what Reynad has in mind lul.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Tardet on March 26, 2021, 09:23:20 am
Anyone still playing the game by any chance?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Wastee on March 26, 2021, 10:13:40 pm
Anyone still playing the game by any chance?
I play Battlegrounds religiously
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: John Price on March 26, 2021, 11:12:16 pm
Playing Hearthstone whilst in CS or league queues back in the day was the way to go. Can't say I have unironically loaded up Hearthstone otherwise though lol