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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => Iron Europe => Topic started by: Dom13WorstNW on February 18, 2014, 02:01:05 am

Title: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on February 18, 2014, 02:01:05 am
Which faction do you prefer?  :D
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Post by: Commissar Jdf on February 18, 2014, 02:01:53 am
I prefer France because of the LMG.
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Post by: Dom13WorstNW on February 18, 2014, 02:02:29 am
Poll added btw
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Post by: Fungus on February 18, 2014, 02:20:09 am
Dom I cant decide pls make 3rd option (neither cuz neither wear kilts)
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Post by: Colonel Howe on February 18, 2014, 02:20:26 am
Vive la France! I go Lebel lebel lee with mai rifle
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Post by: Friedrich on February 18, 2014, 02:25:37 am
Even my Reg is playing as France, I prefer German Empire. Not because my nationality is german, but I like their uniform colours and shape. The Stahlhelm (even if there would be a Pickelhaube) looks cooler than the Adrian helmet. Ok, German Empire didn't really have much or good tanks, but that's okay, they're luckily not in game! :D
Gladly I'm not unhappy if I need to play as France. But over all I still prefer German Empire.
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Post by: Volkonski on February 18, 2014, 02:47:23 am
Even though I absolutely adore the French, I'll have to go with the Germans on this one, purely because of their fast reload speed and cool uniforms.
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Post by: Killington on February 18, 2014, 04:17:53 am
French, I'm loving their LMG and revolver, and the ammo capacity of the Lebel is fantastic.
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Post by: apricotes1 on February 18, 2014, 04:26:39 am
France cuz Hitler fought for Austria/Germany
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Post by: KurassierNixon on February 18, 2014, 04:28:04 am
French LMG hip firing cross map is the way to victory  :P
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Post by: Landrik on February 18, 2014, 04:40:56 am
Absolutely love the French uniforms, but the Germans have my heart... because I reenact as them.
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Post by: Colbac on February 18, 2014, 01:35:50 pm
France.
I just like their rifle. It's so much better in my opinion.
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Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 18, 2014, 01:39:30 pm
Omg, that Chauchat is freaking ugly, but effective.
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Post by: Gizmo on February 18, 2014, 01:54:06 pm
France because I'm French.

What did you expect honestly ::)
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Post by: stylish on February 18, 2014, 02:29:47 pm
Germans.

Gotta give it to them, they have style. Unlike some... (FRENCHIES)

That French helmet just... ugh.
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Post by: Hawke on February 18, 2014, 02:42:31 pm
Yeah, Germans for me. They have awesome uniforms. Unlike the French. Blegh.
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Post by: Wismar on February 18, 2014, 03:00:29 pm
Heil Kaiser dir! all I can say...
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Post by: Kapi on February 18, 2014, 03:07:01 pm
Fur das Vaterland! 2nd Reich best Reich.
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Post by: Xanderman on February 18, 2014, 03:11:30 pm
Germans worst cannon fodder 2k14
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Post by: joer5835 on February 18, 2014, 06:39:34 pm
I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.
Title: Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 18, 2014, 06:40:59 pm
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
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Post by: Kaps on February 18, 2014, 07:06:22 pm
I like both sides it seems like its good balanced and i also heard that the Chauchat wasn't the best gun. However i go for Germany in the end.
Title: Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Killington on February 18, 2014, 07:30:38 pm
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o
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Post by: Rigadoon on February 18, 2014, 07:52:20 pm
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.

Lets just all hope the French are not stuck with Chauchat model 1915s. They would have a hard time equipped with "the worlds worst gun"
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Actually, it's not a terrible gun at all. If you read Pétain's 1917 survey of French weapons, many regiments called it a very effective offensive and defensive weapon. It was noted as being useful providing flanking fire, defending conquered trenches, and during offensives, using walking fire. Many Chauchats were noted to have fired thousands of rounds perfectly during combat. They did note some stoppages due to lip deformation and dirt, but it's not as common as people nowadays think it was.

I believe that the bad reputation of the gun stems from the American model, Mle 18, which converted the Chauchat to using the US .30-06. It didn't work out and had tons of issues due to the .30-06 being more powerful 8mm Lebel and just poor manufacturing. Pretty much it was useless and really did jam after a couple rounds like the myths say. Even though American troops were primarily armed with the original French Mle 15 with Lebel rounds, a few Mle 18s were sent to the front lines. Most likely they never saw combat but you can imagine how reporters would swarm over the guys unlucky enough to be assigned with a gun that won't even fire properly. Mle 18s were always thrown away and it is my guess that the reports of Mle18 were more widely published so the reputation of a gun that jams every few seconds spread to the name of the Chauchat, both Mle 15 and 18. It's either that or American Chauchat gunners were just shit at cleaning their Chauchats and weren't given the training to use them as effectively as their French counterparts did.

So no, it isn't a great gun. But it's far from a bad weapon. It's jamming issues were over exaggerated. Also, think about it this way. Both the French and German armies realized the need for a light automatic weapon. The Germans spent the entire war developing the MP 18 and even when it was done, it came out few in number. The French grabbed a pre-war design that could be made out of scraps and were immediately able to manufacture thousands and provide them to troops all over Europe. There's a book called Honour Bound: Chauchat Machine Rifle where you can read more about this.
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Post by: asagek on February 18, 2014, 09:24:25 pm
France cuz Hitler fought for Austria/Germany
To be honest thats a BullShit reason
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Post by: Wright on February 18, 2014, 09:59:12 pm
The Germans are unreal
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Post by: joer5835 on February 18, 2014, 10:13:56 pm
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
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Post by: Wismar on February 18, 2014, 10:17:35 pm
France because I'm French.

What did you expect honestly ::)
You nationalist scum! How dare you!!!!
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Post by: MadManYo on February 18, 2014, 10:22:04 pm
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
Yes but if you need 1 round quickly then the Lebel is the rifle you want
Title: Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Wismar on February 18, 2014, 10:29:19 pm
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
Yes but if you need 1 round quickly then the Lebel is the rifle you want
If it comes down to close range the one with lebel will easily win since he can just reload one round quickly while the one with the Gewehr needs to load an entire clip.
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Post by: MadManYo on February 18, 2014, 11:50:22 pm
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If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
Yes but if you need 1 round quickly then the Lebel is the rifle you want
If it comes down to close range the one with lebel will easily win since he can just reload one round quickly while the one with the Gewehr needs to load an entire clip.
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Though it depend on how good the shooter is
Title: Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Tomäus on February 19, 2014, 12:02:22 am
German Empire is better. I dont know why but it just feels better
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Post by: Danik on February 19, 2014, 12:07:46 am
I would say the MG08 is superior to the chauchat, the fire rate makes it possible to hold off dozens of advancing enemies while firing from cover pretty much from any distance.

Whether France wins or lose usually depends on how effective le bombing squads turns out to be on the given map.
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Post by: -~Carson~- on February 19, 2014, 12:38:55 am
france!  ;)
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Post by: Reaper on February 19, 2014, 05:12:25 am
In game, I prefer the french uniform because I can tell if it is a uniform rather than German poop uniform. I much prefer the french LMG and the rifle it has. Joseph Joffre is a much more stylish dude as well  8)
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Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 05:19:31 am
I am shocked and appalled at Germany's success in this poll
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Post by: Preston on February 19, 2014, 06:56:03 am
French Helmets look like construction worker hats, but blue. Their weps aren't the best, but still France ftw

Germans got the Sentry, good weapons, and other stuff, but I hate some of their black/grey uniforms, I prefer blue france
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Post by: Snickers on February 20, 2014, 03:25:37 am
German! LMG!
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Post by: Dom13WorstNW on February 20, 2014, 03:31:56 am
who added Serbia?   :o
Title: Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Nardu on February 20, 2014, 09:37:23 am
I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

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Post by: Lecourbe on February 20, 2014, 04:12:35 pm
I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

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German Empire Poweeeer!

You want a picture?

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It's the charge from German's soldiers!
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Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 20, 2014, 04:13:42 pm
Olaf...
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Post by: Dom13WorstNW on February 20, 2014, 04:23:59 pm
I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

I didnt add Serbia  :P
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Post by: Nardu on February 20, 2014, 04:35:33 pm
I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

I didnt add Serbia  :P

Lol, so another guy add another nation inside your thread and your poll?  :o

To answer: The strongest nation depend which one receive the trolls during the conquest or battle match. :)
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Post by: Dom13WorstNW on February 20, 2014, 04:37:56 pm
I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

I didnt add Serbia  :P

Lol, so another guy add another nation inside your thread and your poll?  :o

To answer: The strongest nation depend which one receive the trolls during the conquest or battle match. :)

yea ...

who added Serbia?   :o
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Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 20, 2014, 04:41:58 pm

who added Serbia?   :o

I bet it's Olaf...
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Post by: AubeS on February 21, 2014, 03:23:04 am
France because who finnaly win ?  :P
Title: Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
Post by: Zango on February 21, 2014, 04:52:25 am
IMO, the Germans are better in every way save for their limited LMG mobility.

Their grenadiers get full fledged rifles instead of using little pew pew pistols, they get a unique armored troop, their commander has the ultimate spammy pistol of doom, and their helmets aren't taken from a Lego Bob the Builder set.

Although getting the bandana with the French Grenadier makes me feel like le spy.
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Post by: Derpingtonpryce on February 21, 2014, 05:52:24 pm
France because who finnaly win ?  :P

Without Britain France would have been utterly screwed, Britain kept the trade routes open and also blockaded Germany.

And with that statement, may the arguing begin!
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Post by: AubeS on February 21, 2014, 07:53:17 pm
France because who finnaly win ?  :P

Without Britain France would have been utterly screwed, Britain kept the trade routes open and also blockaded Germany.

And with that statement, may the arguing begin!

No need to discuss it we let us know all that without the assistant brought by Britain Europe would have was lost in hands of the Germans or then the conflict would have duration much more time. Also i have a lot of respect for the British army.
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Post by: Pachira on February 21, 2014, 08:20:47 pm
I prefer the Germans, their rifles reload with a stripper clip and I just love German Uniforms for all wars.
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Post by: Sanitarium on February 22, 2014, 02:52:07 am
I usually prefer France
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Post by: AubeS on February 25, 2014, 01:20:27 pm
I have played some time on IE US server and it's just hilarious how much people whait on spectator for have he place on the German faction.
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Post by: Pafldings on March 12, 2014, 11:34:56 pm
I prefer Germany. They got much better Grenadiers because they got a rifle. (I know, revolvers are OP, but I prefer rifles :P)
Also the uniform colour is very useful because you can`t see them clear from distance with your eyes.
This are my points, hope the discussion will go on. :)