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Offline Akko

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #90 on: November 30, 2014, 06:00:23 am »
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2014, 12:56:22 pm »
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
What 's the name of the village?
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2014, 08:23:03 pm »
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
What 's the name of the village?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqian_%28village%29

Looks like there's not actually much evidence or academic support for the theory. Oh well, interesting all the same.

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #93 on: November 30, 2014, 09:17:52 pm »
Of the 10 most deadliest wars in all Human history, 8 of which were fought in China, the other 2 were the World Wars

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #94 on: November 30, 2014, 09:44:58 pm »
ITT: "Facts"

Discounting things that are technically parts of World Wars (Eastern Front and Sino-Japanese) it's like, 6 to 4 (WW1, WW2, Timur's conquests, Russian Civil War)
Can make a case that the Mongol Conquests don't count because they weren't exclusively fought in China as well.

Also the people who think there was actually a Battle of Karánsebes probably need to be put in a 'special class'
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2014, 10:19:05 pm »
It's in like 10 different books. The casualties were probably exaggerated but there is evidence of a battle.
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2014, 11:24:46 pm »
ITT: "Facts"

Discounting things that are technically parts of World Wars (Eastern Front and Sino-Japanese) it's like, 6 to 4 (WW1, WW2, Timur's conquests, Russian Civil War)
Can make a case that the Mongol Conquests don't count because they weren't exclusively fought in China as well.

Also the people who think there was actually a Battle of Karánsebes probably need to be put in a 'special class'

I'm curious to hear why you think it's so ludicrous that, that battle occurred?

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #97 on: December 01, 2014, 01:51:23 am »
It's in like 10 different books. The casualties were probably exaggerated but there is evidence of a battle.

Of course, books. No-one who writes a book could make anything up, especially not when the original report surfaced 59 years after the alleged event - which also directs readers to the presumably made up Austrian Military Magazine of 1831 for a full account of the battle (not found, I might add).

The first 'source' of the battle from 1843 is considerably different to the modern version of events as well. Liars stories tend to change and become embellished.

Allegedly the Real-Zeitung reports an incident which caused 150 dead camp followers, which I wouldn't be able to read because I don't know German.
Not exactly a battle by any stretch of the imagination, if that event even happened. If the Real-Zeitung source doesn't detail anything, then that means there is no contemporary, native language documentation from a very well documented era of history.

Furthermore, battle sites tend to leave archaeological evidence, especially when we're lead to believe that the Austrian's just left the 10,000 dead and wounded on the field, and that there was a lot of blue-on-blue cannon fire, which tends to leave things like cannonballs and shells about the place.

i.e. It didn't happen. It was made up to sell some hack's book.

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #98 on: December 01, 2014, 01:55:29 am »
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
What 's the name of the village?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqian_%28village%29

Looks like there's not actually much evidence or academic support for the theory. Oh well, interesting all the same.

I heard that there were small amounts of genetic evidence linking the Caucasian DNA to Greece and the Italian Peninsula . I thought it very interesting. Also, there are descendants of Romans everywhere. It's estimated that about 1 million Brits are descended from Romans.
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #99 on: December 01, 2014, 01:28:11 pm »
What about that one country that went to war with 80 men and came back with 81.

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #100 on: December 02, 2014, 12:06:38 am »
Of the 10 most deadliest wars in all Human history, 8 of which were fought in China, the other 2 were the World Wars
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #101 on: December 02, 2014, 07:05:23 pm »
On 10 February 1355, there was a dramatic falling out between students at Oxford University and local townsfolk after a student complained about the quality of drinks at a local tavern. As the situation escalated, serfs from the surrounding countryside poured in, crying: "Havac! Havoc! Smyt fast, give gode knocks!" The resulting conflict left 30 locals and 60 students dead.

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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #102 on: December 03, 2014, 10:32:43 am »
On 10 February 1355, there was a dramatic falling out between students at Oxford University and local townsfolk after a student complained about the quality of drinks at a local tavern. As the situation escalated, serfs from the surrounding countryside poured in, crying: "Havac! Havoc! Smyt fast, give gode knocks!" The resulting conflict left 30 locals and 60 students dead.

So that's why Cambridge are always smug towards dem Oxfords...
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #103 on: December 05, 2014, 02:14:05 am »
On 10 February 1355, there was a dramatic falling out between students at Oxford University and local townsfolk after a student complained about the quality of drinks at a local tavern. As the situation escalated, serfs from the surrounding countryside poured in, crying: "Havac! Havoc! Smyt fast, give gode knocks!" The resulting conflict left 30 locals and 60 students dead.

So that's why Cambridge are always smug towards dem Oxfords...
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Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
« Reply #104 on: December 05, 2014, 02:17:34 am »
Read this today:
If you're ever embarrassed about making a mistake
Just remember in 1788 the Austrian army attacked itself and lost 10,000 men.


Corresponding with this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes