BoP: Europe 1914 [Out-of-character-thread]

[Ted]

  Let me point out something else: I've counted the dead made public in the updates. The results are.... embarassing. According to the casualties many armies, even whole countries shouldn't exist anymore.

Casualties per Year 1914-1916

Let me list the casualties I've counted for 1916:


France: 342.000
Germany: 375.000
Ottoman Empire: 890.000
Italy: 170.000
Russia: 366.000
Austria-Hungary: 76.000
Ethiopia: 180.000
Great Britain: 849.000



Now, let's take a look at 1915 (hold your hats!):


France: 1.513.000
Germany: 1.233.000
Italy: 682.000
Belgium: 161.000
Austria-Hungary: 531.000
Balkan (wasn't clear which nation exactly): 62.000
Serbia: 216.000
Romania: 137.000
Spain: 71.000
Russia: 779.000
Great Britain: 287.000
Ottoman Empire: 340.000
Swiss: 206.000
Greco-Bulgarian-Montenegri Alliance: 324.000


And, as I've allready wasted so much time, let's take 1914 as well:

France: 605.000
Germany: 657.000
Russia: 212.000
Austria-Hungary: 177.000
Italy: 166.000
Montenegro: 74.000

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Full casualties of this BoP   
(Let me point out that they definitely are more as I have read over some for 100% sure):

France: 2.460.000

Germany: 2.265.000

Ottoman Empire: 1.230.000

Great Britain: 1.136.000

Russia: 1.357.000

Italy: 1.018.000

Austria-Hungary: 784.000

Ethiopia: 180.000

Swiss: 206.000

Serbia: 216.000

Belgium: 161.000

Montenegro: 114.000

Greco-Bulgarian Allicane: 284.000

Romania: 137.000

Spain: 71.000

Balkan: 62.000



This sums up to horrendous 11.681.0000 casualties. To compare: From real 1914-1918 "only" 9.560.000 soldiers died. If we keep going with this rate we will have erased Europe from the map within the next months.


1/5 guys from Montenegro (500.000 citizens) has simply been slaughtered. Montenegro should be a Kingdom of women, children and old men at this point.



And you really want to tell me that Montenegro still exists? That the Russians are still commiting suicide every battle and their economy is still going? That Austria-Hungary has not seen a revolution yet? That France and Germany are still able to recruit millions and millions of people? I'm embarassed.

That's not meant as offense, but to show why no of these nations should after all be able to keep fighting at this point in my opinion.

[BabyJesus]

Casualties /=/ deaths

Casualties include wounded, POWs, and deaths. If you look up casualties of ww1, nations like France and Germany had more than 6 million casualties. While Russia had over 9 million.

source:
https://www.pbs.org/greatwar/resources/casdeath_pop.html


Note: I'm not saying I agree with all of the numbers. Montenegro did lose double their actual army size.

[Viriathus]

Spoiler

  Let me point out something else: I've counted the dead made public in the updates. The results are.... embarassing. According to the casualties many armies, even whole countries shouldn't exist anymore.

Casualties per Year 1914-1916

Let me list the casualties I've counted for 1916:


France: 342.000
Germany: 375.000
Ottoman Empire: 890.000
Italy: 170.000
Russia: 366.000
Austria-Hungary: 76.000
Ethiopia: 180.000
Great Britain: 849.000



Now, let's take a look at 1915 (hold your hats!):


France: 1.513.000
Germany: 1.233.000
Italy: 682.000
Belgium: 161.000
Austria-Hungary: 531.000
Balkan (wasn't clear which nation exactly): 62.000
Serbia: 216.000
Romania: 137.000
Spain: 71.000
Russia: 779.000
Great Britain: 287.000
Ottoman Empire: 340.000
Swiss: 206.000
Greco-Bulgarian-Montenegri Alliance: 324.000


And, as I've allready wasted so much time, let's take 1914 as well:

France: 605.000
Germany: 657.000
Russia: 212.000
Austria-Hungary: 177.000
Italy: 166.000
Montenegro: 74.000

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Full casualties of this BoP   
(Let me point out that they definitely are more as I have read over some for 100% sure):

France: 2.460.000

Germany: 2.265.000

Ottoman Empire: 1.230.000

Great Britain: 1.136.000

Russia: 1.357.000

Italy: 1.018.000

Austria-Hungary: 784.000

Ethiopia: 180.000

Swiss: 206.000

Serbia: 216.000

Belgium: 161.000

Montenegro: 114.000

Greco-Bulgarian Allicane: 284.000

Romania: 137.000

Spain: 71.000

Balkan: 62.000



This sums up to horrendous 11.681.0000 casualties. To compare: From real 1914-1918 "only" 9.560.000 soldiers died. If we keep going with this rate we will have erased Europe from the map within the next months.


1/5 guys from Montenegro (500.000 citizens) has simply been slaughtered. Montenegro should be a Kingdom of women, children and old men at this point.



And you really want to tell me that Montenegro still exists? That the Russians are still commiting suicide every battle and their economy is still going? That Austria-Hungary has not seen a revolution yet? That France and Germany are still able to recruit millions and millions of people? I'm embarassed.

That's not meant as offense, but to show why no nation should after all be able to keep fighting at this point.

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Feels quite nice not being on that list, when Ive been at war several times (against France and Germany) and conquered lots of territory 

[Bravescot]

I think we can all basically agree this game is broken to all hell

[The Mighty McLovin]

I think we can all basically agree this game is broken to all hell

Just leave.

[Ted]

Casualties /=/ deaths

Casualties include wounded, POWs, and deaths. If you look up casualties of ww1, nations like France and Germany had more than 6 million casualties. While Russia had over 9 million.

source:
https://www.pbs.org/greatwar/resources/casdeath_pop.html


Note: I'm not saying I agree with all of the numbers. Montenegro did lose double their actual army size.

You definitely got a point there, yes. But I would really be interested in the mechanics behind these numbers. Montenegro loosing more then 20% of its population and still going on is showing off an extreme lack of mechanics.

[Bravescot]

I think we can all basically agree this game is broken to all hell

Just leave.

Says the guy told not to post but still did

[The Mighty McLovin]

You've got a point.

[Bravescot]

You've got a point.

[Furrnox]

  Let me point out something else: I've counted the dead made public in the updates. The results are.... embarassing. According to the casualties many armies, even whole countries shouldn't exist anymore.

Casualties per Year 1914-1916

Let me list the casualties I've counted for 1916:


France: 342.000
Germany: 375.000
Ottoman Empire: 890.000
Italy: 170.000
Russia: 366.000
Austria-Hungary: 76.000
Ethiopia: 180.000
Great Britain: 849.000



Now, let's take a look at 1915 (hold your hats!):


France: 1.513.000
Germany: 1.233.000
Italy: 682.000
Belgium: 161.000
Austria-Hungary: 531.000
Balkan (wasn't clear which nation exactly): 62.000
Serbia: 216.000
Romania: 137.000
Spain: 71.000
Russia: 779.000
Great Britain: 287.000
Ottoman Empire: 340.000
Swiss: 206.000
Greco-Bulgarian-Montenegri Alliance: 324.000


And, as I've allready wasted so much time, let's take 1914 as well:

France: 605.000
Germany: 657.000
Russia: 212.000
Austria-Hungary: 177.000
Italy: 166.000
Montenegro: 74.000

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Full casualties of this BoP   
(Let me point out that they definitely are more as I have read over some for 100% sure):

France: 2.460.000

Germany: 2.265.000

Ottoman Empire: 1.230.000

Great Britain: 1.136.000

Russia: 1.357.000

Italy: 1.018.000

Austria-Hungary: 784.000

Ethiopia: 180.000

Swiss: 206.000

Serbia: 216.000

Belgium: 161.000

Montenegro: 114.000

Greco-Bulgarian Allicane: 284.000

Romania: 137.000

Spain: 71.000

Balkan: 62.000



This sums up to horrendous 11.681.0000 casualties. To compare: From real 1914-1918 "only" 9.560.000 soldiers died. If we keep going with this rate we will have erased Europe from the map within the next months.


1/5 guys from Montenegro (500.000 citizens) has simply been slaughtered. Montenegro should be a Kingdom of women, children and old men at this point.



And you really want to tell me that Montenegro still exists? That the Russians are still commiting suicide every battle and their economy is still going? That Austria-Hungary has not seen a revolution yet? That France and Germany are still able to recruit millions and millions of people? I'm embarassed.

That's not meant as offense, but to show why no of these nations should after all be able to keep fighting at this point in my opinion.

Those are not deaths, those are wounded, deserters, captured and dead but yeah still doesn't make 100% sense. xD
But I'm not playing anymore so meh.

[Reznov]

Mclovin driving towards fascism again :O

[Ted]

Mclovin driving towards fascism again :O

Yup

[The Mighty McLovin]

Mclovin driving towards fascism again :O

How ?

[Ted]

Mclovin driving towards fascism again :O

--> Works together with Freikorps
--> Shoots teachers
--> Shoots all communists
--> Bombards his own cities to "free" them

Please let's not start another discussion

How ?

[Viriathus]

+ that flag though, you really know how to make diplomacy