my budget is under 650$, want to be able to run total wars(especially rome 2) on ultra settings, anyone know a pre-built one?i7 Core, 8 MB memory, Nvidia GForce (Something with numbers), and a Samsung monitor 27 inches, if you will have enough.
no.my budget is under 650$, want to be able to run total wars(especially rome 2) on ultra settings, anyone know a pre-built one?i7 Core, 8 MB memory, Nvidia GForce (Something with numbers), and a Samsung monitor 27 inches, if you will have enough.
You have to go with an AMD build.
For $650, I recommend buying a whole system, forget building it... This one is surprisingly good (http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Summer_Sale_APU_Special).
You will always be able to build your own better PC for the price of buying a pre-built. You're paying for the work that went into assembling the parts which you can do yourself.
Would it be better to buy a whole new computer or a really good graphics card?
how does this sound(thanks to skyz for recommending)
Case
AZZA Armour Gaming Case - Blue
Processor
AMD A6-6400K APU (2x 3.90GHz/1MB L2 Cache)
Processor Cooling
Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink
Memory
8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand
Video Card
AMD Radeon HD 7770 - 1GB - Single Card
Motherboard
ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 -- 6x USB3.0, 1x eSATA-III 6Gb/s
Power Supply
650 Watt -- NZXT HALE82N-SI / 80+ Bronze
Primary Hard Drive
2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive
Optical Drive
24x Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black
Sound Card
3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) 64-Bit
Keyboard
iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Keyboard - FREE Upgrde to Tt eSPORTS CHALLENGER Gaming Keyboard
Mouse
iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Mouse - Blood Red
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service
Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days
well the PC I use is about 2-3 years old and it has trouble running Total war :-\ so yeah ..... I guess I need a new PC >:(
I'd say atleast £1000 + to get it running on ultra on big battles.
I'd say atleast £1000 + to get it running on ultra on big battles.
Bullshit, I did it with €750
cyberpower
You don't need 16GB of memory, 8GB should do just fine.
Also, an i7 isn't really necessary either. A good i5 card would do fine.
I have a liquid cooling that comes standard but I have upgraded it to be a dual fan "push, pull airflow". In addition, after consulting my Father (computer whiz) I will go with 16 gigabytes mostly because I do plan on making videos and RAM is one of the best things for that, cheap and always upgradable.The size of the RAM isn't all that matters, there are also a few different types of RAM all with varying power. Currently, DDR3 is the standard, however, there are some new up and coming types being developed for PC, most notable, the GDDR5 architecture, which is currently in use in the PS4 and some GPU units. Whether you want to wait for that type of thing is up to you, but the upgrade will be well worth it. 16GB is really the minimum for uploading to Youtube with quality videos. Having worked with that kind of stuff for a while now, if you want to use great video codecs, 16gb will make a great difference in performance.
My laptop:
Nvidia GeForce GT 525M
8 GB RAM
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670 QM CPU @2.20 GHz 2.20 GHz
Will it run Rome 2 on highest graphics or..
Really would recommend that you build instead of buy a prebuilt :-\ Prebuilts are often rip offs or have horrible parts mixed with decent ones+1
Well, what about a pre-built computer on New Egg?
Also, if I ordered all the parts on New egg (main parts) would they come with wires or would I have to end of buying wiring, I think they are called "ribbons", I feel that buying a pre-built is just easier for me. I am really bad with computers and don't really know anything, all I know is that is that an i-7 is a good starting point. Also, I have heard that AMD GPU's are not very good for Total Wars, is this true? The main reason for this build is for Rome 2 and I really want to know a good build. Could anyone link me parts to a rome 2 ultra computer? Every time I configure I get into the mid 1000's, not the "750 dollars and I run ultra fine".
Hate to break it to you but that prebuilt actually is mediocre /: You would be better off assembling one from scratch.I know.... PSU is new Videocard is new HDD is new....
i7s currently make no difference. Building a computer is actually really easy though, the first one I built, I did just by reading the manuals that came with the parts, and had it done without any screw ups within 3 hours. It really is as simple as putting together legos. And buying parts rather than a pre built computer will give you much more bang for buck, and better warranties. Also, most parts come with everything they need, including wires.Well there are the good i5's and the bad i7's...
That's because a laptop isn't designed to swap Videocards like you do in a PC...Wrong.
So you mean I can swap my HD Radeon 7770 from my pc and just slam it in my laptop?That's because a laptop isn't designed to swap Videocards like you do in a PC...Wrong.
Oh my god, if it would be possible I would do it a LONG time ago.IKR, I would have bought a laptop instead of my rock formation pc. Then again Laptops tend to heat when playing... But meh... I can take the heat... But dunno if the parts will....
So..If you have the right slot and space, you may not need to. But yes, laptops are just as upgradeable as desktops, you just have to get the right parts.
If I switch a motherboard to my laptop, will I be able to upgrade the GPU that the motherboard will fit?
Cause I might need to switch a motherboard.
Don't be naive, there is GPUs created for desktops and GPUs created for laptops, how do you think Alienware are so powerful? As long as you have the space and support for it, you can slap in a GPU that would run Crysis 3 on max.
Well the thing is that my GPU is part of my damn motherboard.So? I personally have 3 GPUs in my computer. You just pick which one you want to use.
If you have looked more closely you would have seen that when you press "Compare and Buy" in Nvidia website, it gives you the computers that use it, not the buying of the GPU it self.Well the thing is that my GPU is part of my damn motherboard.So? I personally have 3 GPUs in my computer. You just pick which one you want to use.
So..If you have the right slot and space, you may not need to. But yes, laptops are just as upgradeable as desktops, you just have to get the right parts.
If I switch a motherboard to my laptop, will I be able to upgrade the GPU that the motherboard will fit?
Cause I might need to switch a motherboard.
Have a shop around here.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus
Go to newegg, I linked you to Nvidia so you could compare specs, not purchase ::)Link me to the laptop motherboards there please. xD
Like I said though, more than likely you will have to buy a totally different motherboard, because most have the GPU integrated. Still though it's a shitton less expensive than buying a whole new laptop or desktop.
Go to newegg, I linked you to Nvidia so you could compare specs, not purchase ::)Do show me the website, I want to save up for one :).
Like I said though, more than likely you will have to buy a totally different motherboard, because most have the GPU integrated. Still though it's a shitton less expensive than buying a whole new laptop or desktop.
Sorry, apparently newegg doesn't carry notebook motherboards/gpus, however I did find quite a few on amazon and ebay ex: These (http://compare.ebay.com/like/330832607817?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar\)My father can actually do that.
Just search by GPU ex: GTX660m
Also keep in mind replacing a laptop motherboard can be tricky business, sometimes depending on the model and how the motherboard is placed it is actually impossible, so make sure you check out your laptop and make sure it is possible and you get the right model. And remember, for notebooks shop for GPU and CPU, RAM is still just as upgradeable as desktop.
I don't recommend attempting an upgrade if your laptop requires the entire motherboard to be swapped out unless you are very good with that kind of stuff. Also, before you swap out an entire motherboard, make sure you don't have one of the newer, higher end laptops which allow swapping of the GPU and CPU.
Look up tutorials and stuff, I'm just giving you ideas for upgrades, but I have not actually done it myself, however my uncle has done it before, and beefed up a 300 dollar laptop to the quality of an alienware for half the price, so I have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
I have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
Yes, but you can also modify a little bit to get extra airflow and use those laptop cooling pad things. Also, the battery is upgradeable as well, but I recommend always having a spare or two.I have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
I have a bit of knowledge on the subject as well, a friend of mine tried to upgrade his HP laptop with a new GPU. But the laptops airflow is designed in such a way that it only supported it's default GPU which was a hybrid combination of APU and dedicated GPU, which resulted in some overheat mess.
Also keep in mind that upgrading GPU/CPU can drasticly affect your battery.
Not to forget I tried opening my own laptop once, almost broke it -> never again :P
Modify it and put some fans on the sides and whatnot, if that's possible. Make that thing the king of airflow.Already did.
Modify it and put some fans on the sides and whatnot, if that's possible. Make that thing the king of airflow.I need Windbusche's help
I meant as in I need his wind powers to cool my laptop xDYou're dumb too.
I wunnta fihte u whindy jus w4t3 fer duh atak >:(nub
Whoah m8 lelelel whunto t4g t43m aganst whindyboo? Cuz whindy iz bes MMI wunnta fihte u whindy jus w4t3 fer duh atak >:(nub
I never played MM so I can't really play there, plus, I'm European with bad internet, so no duel against Wind for me. :PWind is terrible, I'm sure you wouldn't have much trouble.
Windows 8=GG no re, throw the computer in the garage and sell it in 50 years when it's worth something.Don't know what you talking about. Can buy PCEngine for 20 dollars these days.
A computer I am planning on getting:
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770 Haswell 3.4Ghz 8MB L3 Cache s1150 - Tray
Motherboard: Asus H81M-C LGA1150, Intel H81, DDR3 1600, PCI-E
RAM: Kingston 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz HyperX Dual Channel CL9-9-9-27
CPU Cooling: Zalman SZ CC92HS or Thermaltake Slim X3 80mm CL-P0534
Power Supply: Thermaltake Litepower 500W Active PFC 12cm Fan (Retail)
Case: Antec One Mid Tower Gaming Black Case No PSU
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB SATA III
GPU: Asus GTX650 2GB GDDR5 DX11 VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E
Total fee: 1108.86 $.
What do you think?
David, as crunch said psu is critical to have the right amount of watts, or else as ^ said "It goes boom".Actually, 2 questions:
Crunch I have a question:
How do you know which parts do not go with each other? (Apart from the psu) like you said CPU way too high and Ram too low?
16GB of RAM is pretty much needed these days if you plan on heavy PC gaming. The performance will be much higher, guaranteed.David, as crunch said psu is critical to have the right amount of watts, or else as ^ said "It goes boom".Actually, 2 questions:
Crunch I have a question:
How do you know which parts do not go with each other? (Apart from the psu) like you said CPU way too high and Ram too low?
Why do you think the RAM is too low?
I like this CPU dawg. Why de-grade?
I want to just upgrade the GPU and the cooler. But I will need 500$ more. :( The GTX 770 will be alright?
I am rendering videos and modelling in 3d so I need really a lot of CPU power.16GB of RAM is pretty much needed these days if you plan on heavy PC gaming. The performance will be much higher, guaranteed.David, as crunch said psu is critical to have the right amount of watts, or else as ^ said "It goes boom".Actually, 2 questions:
Crunch I have a question:
How do you know which parts do not go with each other? (Apart from the psu) like you said CPU way too high and Ram too low?
Why do you think the RAM is too low?
I like this CPU dawg. Why de-grade?
I want to just upgrade the GPU and the cooler. But I will need 500$ more. :( The GTX 770 will be alright?
And the GPU is way too overkill. I'm usually rendering music, videos, and uploading, all together, and that shit cripples regular CPUs, and mine holds up fine (3770k).
As for gaming, i7s make absolutely ZERO difference, not a single game uses hyperthreading yet, so unless you plan on rendering videos and producing music like me, you will see no advantage in as beefy a CPU as that. Definitely spend your money elsewhere. These days I would recommend at least a GTX680 in the GPU department if you want to be able to pretty much conquer any game's settings, and hell, even that struggles sometimes. I remember the Cry3 beta wouldn't allow SLI so I used only one of my 680's and the poor thing was really struggling on mid-max settings, let alone all that fancy SSAO they have. Hell, even Arma 3 struggles with SLI GTX680s.
Okay, are you rendering for Youtube? I render hour long videos in 1080+p and don't even need half the CPU power I have, and 3D modelling is barely even a problem for i5s, these days.I am rendering videos and modelling in 3d so I need really a lot of CPU power.16GB of RAM is pretty much needed these days if you plan on heavy PC gaming. The performance will be much higher, guaranteed.David, as crunch said psu is critical to have the right amount of watts, or else as ^ said "It goes boom".Actually, 2 questions:
Crunch I have a question:
How do you know which parts do not go with each other? (Apart from the psu) like you said CPU way too high and Ram too low?
Why do you think the RAM is too low?
I like this CPU dawg. Why de-grade?
I want to just upgrade the GPU and the cooler. But I will need 500$ more. :( The GTX 770 will be alright?
And the GPU is way too overkill. I'm usually rendering music, videos, and uploading, all together, and that shit cripples regular CPUs, and mine holds up fine (3770k).
As for gaming, i7s make absolutely ZERO difference, not a single game uses hyperthreading yet, so unless you plan on rendering videos and producing music like me, you will see no advantage in as beefy a CPU as that. Definitely spend your money elsewhere. These days I would recommend at least a GTX680 in the GPU department if you want to be able to pretty much conquer any game's settings, and hell, even that struggles sometimes. I remember the Cry3 beta wouldn't allow SLI so I used only one of my 680's and the poor thing was really struggling on mid-max settings, let alone all that fancy SSAO they have. Hell, even Arma 3 struggles with SLI GTX680s.
Yes, rendering for YouTube.Okay, are you rendering for Youtube? I render hour long videos in 1080+p and don't even need half the CPU power I have, and 3D modelling is barely even a problem for i5s, these days.I am rendering videos and modelling in 3d so I need really a lot of CPU power.16GB of RAM is pretty much needed these days if you plan on heavy PC gaming. The performance will be much higher, guaranteed.David, as crunch said psu is critical to have the right amount of watts, or else as ^ said "It goes boom".Actually, 2 questions:
Crunch I have a question:
How do you know which parts do not go with each other? (Apart from the psu) like you said CPU way too high and Ram too low?
Why do you think the RAM is too low?
I like this CPU dawg. Why de-grade?
I want to just upgrade the GPU and the cooler. But I will need 500$ more. :( The GTX 770 will be alright?
And the GPU is way too overkill. I'm usually rendering music, videos, and uploading, all together, and that shit cripples regular CPUs, and mine holds up fine (3770k).
As for gaming, i7s make absolutely ZERO difference, not a single game uses hyperthreading yet, so unless you plan on rendering videos and producing music like me, you will see no advantage in as beefy a CPU as that. Definitely spend your money elsewhere. These days I would recommend at least a GTX680 in the GPU department if you want to be able to pretty much conquer any game's settings, and hell, even that struggles sometimes. I remember the Cry3 beta wouldn't allow SLI so I used only one of my 680's and the poor thing was really struggling on mid-max settings, let alone all that fancy SSAO they have. Hell, even Arma 3 struggles with SLI GTX680s.
Then you are way over kill. You don't have to listen to my input though, you will just be stuck with double the CPU power you need and a bottleneck GPU.Yes, rendering for YouTube.Okay, are you rendering for Youtube? I render hour long videos in 1080+p and don't even need half the CPU power I have, and 3D modelling is barely even a problem for i5s, these days.I am rendering videos and modelling in 3d so I need really a lot of CPU power.16GB of RAM is pretty much needed these days if you plan on heavy PC gaming. The performance will be much higher, guaranteed.David, as crunch said psu is critical to have the right amount of watts, or else as ^ said "It goes boom".Actually, 2 questions:
Crunch I have a question:
How do you know which parts do not go with each other? (Apart from the psu) like you said CPU way too high and Ram too low?
Why do you think the RAM is too low?
I like this CPU dawg. Why de-grade?
I want to just upgrade the GPU and the cooler. But I will need 500$ more. :( The GTX 770 will be alright?
And the GPU is way too overkill. I'm usually rendering music, videos, and uploading, all together, and that shit cripples regular CPUs, and mine holds up fine (3770k).
As for gaming, i7s make absolutely ZERO difference, not a single game uses hyperthreading yet, so unless you plan on rendering videos and producing music like me, you will see no advantage in as beefy a CPU as that. Definitely spend your money elsewhere. These days I would recommend at least a GTX680 in the GPU department if you want to be able to pretty much conquer any game's settings, and hell, even that struggles sometimes. I remember the Cry3 beta wouldn't allow SLI so I used only one of my 680's and the poor thing was really struggling on mid-max settings, let alone all that fancy SSAO they have. Hell, even Arma 3 struggles with SLI GTX680s.
Though I succeeded with uploading only 720p and that it will actually look good.
And I am planing on running Rome II on Very High -> Highest settings.
my budget is under 650$, want to be able to run total wars(especially rome 2) on ultra settings, anyone know a pre-built one?i7 Core, 8 MB memory, Nvidia GForce (Something with numbers), and a Samsung monitor 27 inches, if you will have enough.