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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => North & South: First Manassas => Topic started by: Arkansan on July 05, 2015, 06:23:44 pm

Title: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 05, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
Latest Version>>>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzScZ0p-kvqiamtCZTg4bHVtZ0U/view?usp=sharing

I'm currently working on perfecting the current Alamo map. My goal is to make it as historically accurate with the props we are given. Seeing that most of the props are geared towards the Manassas area, I'm having to get a little creative. I'll post updates as the map progresses. Feedback and suggestions welcome!
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Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: usnavy30 on July 05, 2015, 06:25:10 pm
Playing on that map was always a riot.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Dius on July 05, 2015, 06:42:28 pm
Good map ;)
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Siberian Cossack on July 05, 2015, 07:43:39 pm
+1  :o
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on July 05, 2015, 08:02:42 pm
Looks nice so far.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: TheRedRedcoat on July 05, 2015, 10:12:50 pm
Ples gib Alamo event
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: 5thGASoldier on July 06, 2015, 09:47:06 pm
Looking good so far. Can't wait to play it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 07, 2015, 03:44:21 am
The South wall is pretty much done  :D
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Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 07, 2015, 09:13:35 am
Remember The Alamo!
http://alamoplazaproject.com/west-wall.html
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 07, 2015, 07:01:04 pm
Yuck.. Triple post.. but Progress!
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Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: turanafon on July 08, 2015, 11:07:15 am
great work
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Nick Lazanis on July 08, 2015, 12:11:35 pm
Looks great!
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: disaster on July 11, 2015, 02:43:33 am
What map are you replacing this with?
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 11, 2015, 04:09:24 am
Quote from: disaster on July 11, 2015, 02:43:33 am
What map are you replacing this with?
Quote from: Arkansan on July 05, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
I'm currently working on perfecting the current Alamo map.

Sorry for the lack of updates guys, I've been very sick and basically bedridden the last 2/3 days.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Akko on July 11, 2015, 08:55:22 am
Awesome!
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: usnavy30 on July 11, 2015, 12:18:42 pm
Quote from: Arkansan on July 11, 2015, 04:09:24 am
Quote from: disaster on July 11, 2015, 02:43:33 am
What map are you replacing this with?
Quote from: Arkansan on July 05, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
I'm currently working on perfecting the current Alamo map.

Sorry for the lack of updates guys, I've been very sick and basically bedridden the last 2/3 days.
I hope you feel better soon, the Alamo map from a way-back event was always a blast to play on. To defend and assault the fort was exhilarating.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Brookesy on July 11, 2015, 12:24:44 pm
Quote from: usnavy30 on July 11, 2015, 12:18:42 pm
Quote from: Arkansan on July 11, 2015, 04:09:24 am
Quote from: disaster on July 11, 2015, 02:43:33 am
What map are you replacing this with?
Quote from: Arkansan on July 05, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
I'm currently working on perfecting the current Alamo map.

Sorry for the lack of updates guys, I've been very sick and basically bedridden the last 2/3 days.
I hope you feel better soon, the Alamo map from a way-back event was always a blast to play on. To defend and assault the fort was exhilarating.


I find your use of vocabulary disturbing
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 15, 2015, 05:25:36 pm
But highly intriguing, I hope you feel better and the map looks amazing enough! I would be happy to help anyway I can, from testing it to actually.. *gulp* mapping, I was never a patient person..
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 16, 2015, 02:06:58 pm
Thanks for the get wells, I'm feeling much better! I haven't been posting new pics because.. well.. the fort itself is almost done! ;D Some things should be a surprise! All I can say is the Alamo is well known for a REASON. ;)
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Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Hinkel on July 16, 2015, 02:51:10 pm
I CAN'T wait ! :D

It should get updated on the UA Siege server then! :)
And on all other servers too, of course
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Tyrionpk on July 17, 2015, 03:19:06 pm
Quote from: Hinkel on July 16, 2015, 02:51:10 pm
I CAN'T wait ! :D

It should get updated on the UA Siege server then! :)
And on all other servers too, of course

Map does look awesome indeed!

Would very much like to use on our siege server if permitted :-*
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 17, 2015, 08:06:41 pm
pls finish soon 4 cookie
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Herishey on July 17, 2015, 08:09:12 pm
The first Alamo film was one of my favorites ever, so nice to see this map.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 17, 2015, 08:30:04 pm
Quote from: Altis on July 17, 2015, 08:06:41 pm
pls finish soon 4 cookie
hmmm... what kind of cookie?? ;D
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 17, 2015, 10:28:16 pm
Any kind of cookie you want <3
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 20, 2015, 07:21:52 pm
Ok yall, I'm releasing a test version. This will give me time to complete the Foreign Intervention spawn and work out any bugs so the final will be much better!
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Here is the download link, remember it still isn't fully finished. Have fun and please post any suggestions/problems here. Thanks!
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 20, 2015, 09:26:51 pm
Will test it on my server, <3

27thAL_Official
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 20, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
Sorry for the double post, but I was taking a quick look around the map, and there is only one thing I do not like right of the bat.

Immediately, I see ladders which cannot be put up or down, but the kind that are static and do not move. I do not like these, as its to easy for the Attacker to push on the ladder and overwhelm the fort. I get its trying to be realistic I guess, but in the end its siege map, and the rounds aren't going to last very long.. heh
One of the Ladder Points, along with multiple others.
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With those ladders there, it would be useless to the Defenders to use this nice feature:
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As the attackers can just climb the wall on those multiple ladders, and easily pick off the Defenders in that area.

This I do like, I haven't tested weather you can hop over the cart or not, but sappers may be able to get in and place planks, to get over it which is awesome, then they can break the door!
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Yet Again, 2 more ladder spots..

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From what I've tested so far, its a great map, little bugs, Haven't tested the spawning thoroughly, but I can try to get a few people on sometime and have a fun siege :D, The map is on my server, free for testing if anyone wishes to come on, its 27thAL_Official and its on siege, if you haven't tested the map  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 21, 2015, 12:21:47 am
Quote from: Altis on July 20, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
Immediately, I see ladders which cannot be put up or down, but the kind that are static and do not move. I do not like these, as its to easy for the Attacker to push on the ladder and overwhelm the fort. I get its trying to be realistic I guess, but in the end its siege map, and the rounds aren't going to last very long.. heh
One of the Ladder Points, along with multiple others.
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I used these ladders because they look the most pleasing honestly. I believe there are a total of 8 ladders, 6 of which are on the north and west walls. Being that it was the hardest hit, it will for sure receive the most defenders. You'll also notice the defenders have plenty of cannons. I haven't added any for the FI yet, though I am considering a howitzer or 2.

Quote from: Altis on July 20, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
With those ladders there, it would be useless to the Defenders to use this nice feature:
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As the attackers can just climb the wall on those multiple ladders, and easily pick off the Defenders in that area.
The whole purpose of those areas is to shoot the guys going for the ladders along the wall and maybe some extra gate security.

Quote from: Altis on July 20, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
This I do like, I haven't tested weather you can hop over the cart or not, but sappers may be able to get in and place planks, to get over it which is awesome, then they can break the door!
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You can jump it, though i can see it being a deathtrap XD

Quote from: Altis on July 20, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
Yet Again, 2 more ladder spots..
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I thought about adding more since it was the hardest hit wall.

Quote from: Altis on July 20, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
From what I've tested so far, its a great map, little bugs, Haven't tested the spawning thoroughly, but I can try to get a few people on sometime and have a fun siege :D, The map is on my server, free for testing if anyone wishes to come on, its 27thAL_Official and its on siege, if you haven't tested the map  ::)
Thank you very much for the review. I'm really hoping to hear back from some events on it and see how it goes. You'll notice that the north/west walls are almost doomed. It is meant to be this way due to being historically the weakest and where the Mexicans broke in. But if you look, you can see multiple places for defenders to hole up, including the barracks, courtyard, and the church itself. I don't view sieges as something defenders should always win. Who wants to lay siege to something that will ruin their army. Most sieges fought were done so because the attackers knew they would win. That being said, the Alamo is well known for a reason. The Mexicans paid dearly for it, as I'm hoping will be the outcome here.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 21, 2015, 05:20:42 am
Had a fun siege on the server today with a few people! Thanks to all who showed up!
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 26, 2015, 07:43:01 pm
What little the map has been tested I've noticed a few bugs and changes I'd like to make. I've been hoping the UA would put it on their server to test it. The DA just recently did so I'm hoping for a lot more feedback on fixes. The next big thing is the team 2 spawn. The current one is just something I threw down temporarily while the fort was being tested. Also, team 2 doesn't have any cannons yet but I'm thinking maybe a howitzer or 2..
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 29, 2015, 04:50:41 am
Ok fellas, new version is here ---> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzScZ0p-kvqiamtCZTg4bHVtZ0U/view?usp=sharing <---

Some minor updates including a small Mexican village, some trenches for attackers, and 2 howitzers for attackers.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 30, 2015, 07:31:13 am
Great Job!
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Arkansan on July 30, 2015, 07:58:18 am
I've noticed with around 40-60 people on the server, the defenders with 4 lives can hold out for around 30mins with a good team and sapper. Without both though.. lol. Not sure how the Howitzers will affect this.
Title: Re: Battle of the Alamo
Post by: Preston on August 27, 2015, 03:49:14 am
noice