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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American 6v6 Groupfighting Draft League

« on: September 09, 2020, 05:59:54 am »

Coach Mikey Explaining to Double why He wont poop on him

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 07:59:49 am »

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Pinoy's Post

I've been playing since 2012 and no reg EVER has been banned from competing in a 1v1 league no matter how "Stacked" they were. Everyone else had to deal with it. Most of us have been on the winning side and the losing side plenty of times. That's just how shit goes. You get better by surrounding yourself with better competition so you can elevate yourself. Yeah you're gonna get smashed at first but eventually if you stay dedicated and continue to practice you will become better. Whether or not you get good enough to win the league is on you. But you will most definitely be better than what you started out with. Banning a reg from playing in a league is dogshit. It has never happened before and should never happen period. 12e should be able to play. And splitting the reg up just to play? Who the fuck are you to tell a reg leader they should split their own reg up to play in a league. They should be able to play how they want to play. Let the 12e compete.

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I've been playing since early-2013 and I can't +1 this post more. The 12th BY FAR was the best regiment for most of 2013. They dominated every regiment in 1v1s, including 3eVolt. 3eVolt trained hard and eventually we beat the 12th... twice (MAY have hillcamped a bit but that is besides the point)

Fartknocker's Post

If you can't handle losing quit life cause you aren't ready for that shit. Weak attitudes bro. It's a video game from 10 years ago for God's sake. Everyone should be in one league. 12e should be able to play. Who cares if they dominate? If you go in with a shitty attitude about it then you are setting yourself up for disappointment already. Go in looking to improve and have fun with your regiment friends.

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Fart, as always, has a spot on analysis here. If you go in to a match with a loss already on your mind, you're going to lose 9 times out of 10. You're not being competitive at that point, you're just wasting your own and your regiment member's time.

Theodin's Posts

Anyone who makes the argument that “if you practice and develop you’ll be better” is totally out of touch
Like Godfried this league is not going to be fun! You are going to 10-0 or 9-1 every single regiment, no one is going to enjoy playing you. You are the only league one reg in a league two league

12e could literally make two lines and get first and second place

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That is a loser mentality, Theo. I expect more from the self proclaimed "greatest coach of all time".

Risk's Essay

You are looking at the problem, not the solution.

Many players in the comp community, not just 12e, have put in a ton of time and dedication to this game to become what they are today. Most of us started off terrible and worked to become better because once you saw comp, you admired it and wanted to play in it. Or at least, that was me in 2016 in a super casual regiment. Not to rant on this for too long, but I loved comp when I realized it was a thing in this game because I am super competitive person. I spent hours on NA_GF back in the day to work to become better. And this is probably a similar story for a lot of people. They started off bad and discovered comp and wanted to stay in it. Either way and no matter how it happened, a lot of us found our way into comp and we worked to become good players.

Since late 2016 there has been about 2-3 solid league 1 regiments in the community because of the number of comp players in the community. Some have left over the years, some go on/off over years, some are new, etc. but the player base has been about the same for a while. The issue is not regiment leaders not training or whatever. And saying "we do training multiple times in a week" and all that. That's good and can be helpful but improvement really comes down to the individual player spending their OWN time to get better. Going on NAGF for 30mins-1hour a day is a good start imo. Playing in gfs, 1v1s, watch comp videos, realize your melee mistakes and work on them. Players who are new or not very good (basically your average joe in casual) come to comp events and yes tend to do bad. Then what tends to happen is the loser/quitter mentality. They give up and don't want to play or just don't care. Now, it's perfectly fine if those players just want to go to 200 man linebattles and pew-pew in a line formation. They will come to your comp events and play in them, but in reality most of them won't spend the time to get better and work on their melee. Which again is fine if they don't want to. You can sit there and train people and show them every mechanic in the game, but experience is a lot more valuable than that. They need to put in work on their own and put in the hours to become good. And don't take that as "oh I need 3k hours to become good." No. You could actually be pretty ok with 500-1000 on NAGF or GFs or other melee orientated things (draft leagues, some trainings, etc.). Now obviously, big emphasis on "pretty ok." You won't be amazing, but it's a start. It doesn't come easy and it shouldn't. Again, most of the comp players now will tell you the amount of time they spent trying to become good and get in the comp scene. It doesn't come easy.

We really haven't seen any new players join the comp scene from like the year 2018+ that came from casual to stay in comp. You just don't see those players anymore who will come to play and not have a quitter/loser mentality. And finding those players is extremely hard. Many communities and regiments have the same players and keep them over the years. If recruiting is hard (and it has been for a lot of regiments in the past couple of years) then finding those new players to the game who want to play in comp and are competitive people will be even harder. The reality is, you really can't expect to massively improve quickly or any at all unless all of your guys actually put in the time as I mentioned above. Because all the good players over the years, even the ones that don't play anymore, have put in years and hours of playing to become good at the game. You can critique this example all you want but look at CS:GO. Astralis won a year and a half worth of Majors (if you don't know what this means, it's basically NANWL for us). They have 4 total which equals a total of 2 years of winning the best CS:GO tournament/league, 3 of them back to back. Did we see Astralis banned or more importantly, did other teams just quit? No. Teams and players looked to improve and organizations looked to improve their rosters if necessary. Orgs in that game actually look to sign the best players and that comes to the most deserving players (aka the players who dedicate themselves to improving).

It comes to the individual player. As I said: problem is, many do not want to sit there and be apart of comp and spend the time to become good. Sure, they will come to the comp gfs, trainings, etc. but at the end of the day will they spend hours on GF and go the extra mile to improve? Probably not. Because that's what it takes. And please remember, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. If they don't want to become good and just play causal and go to the casual events, that's fine. Everyone plays the game for their own reason. Also, one more thing that goes hand in hand with this is the mindset. Again, the loser/quitter mentality is something you don't want and the new players can't have. I always looked to improve back in the day, I still do now. Sure, everyone hates losing, I do too. But, as cringey as it sounds, it's about improving and getting back up to play and stay in it. Because many of us comp players play in comp for how much we enjoy it. We sign up for these draft leagues and play for regiments all competitively because it's fun, we like to compete, play with friends, etc. You can't have the quitter mentality.

Bottom line and reality is, we just don't have those players right now to come into the comp community and will put in that work to create a bigger and more diverse (skill wise) comp community. There will always be better regiments and the good players will keep playing for as long as they want to. They will make a presence and impact no matter where they are or what regiments are currently in the scene. That's the way it's been for a while and that's why I think L1 and L2 is pretty good, because it separates the skill to try to give everyone a competitive experience.

But for some reason, your solution is to punish the comp players? The comp players that have put in the hours and dedication to this game. The players that have been key to keeping this community alive over all these years. You are looking at the problem, not the solution.

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CFM's Post

Bruh I just want 12e to be put in the finals like the final boss of a mortal kombat game. Waiting to crush whoever slogged through the rest of the competition. Please give me 12e Shao Kahn! I will Liu Kang their ass!

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+1, gave me a nice chuckle.

Winter's Post

If I a may make a baseball analogy.

If in 2001, the Diamondbacks in their fourth year of existence could beat arguably the greatest modern lineup in history in the form of the Yankees (who had won 4 of the 5 past World Series), then surely a similar upset can occur here? In fact, I'm fairly sure it already has.

Granted, the D-Backs did have Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling, but I don't think there was any ever debate that the Yankees had the objectively better team. There are always elements of randomness, luck, and strokes of pure genius that can come into play. It isn't always as binary as we make it out to be.

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This. This. This.


The 12e are a group of friends that have been playing this game together for years at this point. We got rocked by RSL a few times at the beginning, but we trained and worked hard to improve and now we are, as humble as I can say this, the best NA regiment, groupfighting wise. The 1v1 game is different from the GFing game, as there is a lot more involved in 1v1s (shooting, leading, map, etc.). Imagine the Superbowl, Stanley Cup, World Series, etc. champions not being allowed to play in the upcoming season because they're too good. Upsets can happen in any competitive environment and NW isn't an exception to that.

I guess my post is irrelevant now since we are allowed in, so I won't go in to it further; however, I'll leave on this note: don't go in with a loser's mentality. We've all been rocked at some point, but what separates the high tier regiments/players from the lower tier ones is the ability to pick themselves up and learn what they did wrong and improve upon that. Good luck to every regiment in the league, catch you in the server.

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Well said for a ring chasing, stack joining, reg hoppin, and shitty ass EU4Player

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 06:53:17 am »

If you can't handle losing quit life cause you aren't ready for that shit. Weak attitudes bro. It's a video game from 10 years ago for God's sake. Everyone should be in one league. 12e should be able to play. Who cares if they dominate? If you go in with a shitty attitude about it then you are setting yourself up for disappointment already. Go in looking to improve and have fun with your regiment friends.

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 06:45:36 am »

Sign-up if you'd like to. I won't be petty about this, it's done lets move on.

It's also not a L1 or L2 format. The idea is to have "balance" in each group. 12e will just throw that balance off for one of the groups and we'll work around that.

Thank you very much Ill make sure to put in a request to the avatar to restore balance to NW

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 05:15:20 am »

so can i play for another reg

Enter the transfer portal hommie.

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 05:13:33 am »

Let the 12e play. If we have to compete for second place, that will be the case. It'll suck, but kicking a regiment out before they even warranted being kicked out by being toxic comp butt holes is dumb.

Thats what i'm saying atleast give us the chance to get kicked out of the league by being toxic assholes.
no toxic

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 04:44:17 am »

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yea thing is we have a whole bus full of shitties so even with some competitive players it won't really matter. we just lost a groupfight because we had multiple people go 5-20 or lower so that's something

LG beat 42nd in like 8/10 groupfights sometimes very badly. 42nd was still able to get the win in a 1v1 though. Groupfights are not really definitive gauges for who will win a 1v1 because there's more factors in a 1v1 like shooting and leading. The latter of which 9th/84th/20th also outclass the other regiments in. And I know you guys didn't have everyone I mentioned above there anyways, I also left out Dan.

you're right but look at this screenshot please, every 12e member gets 15+ kills. leading doesn't make a difference when the skill gap is this different. I understand being mad that your highpowered reg isn't playing (71st understands) but back then there were more than one. the rsl is the only reg that can somewhat hang with you and they just lost Yolo and Fireboy. besides jolly and glenn are not good leaders in 1v1s/competitive stuff (sorry fellas) but you have two of the most accomplished linebattle leaders in nw history, plus others that are more than capable.
keep the boys together but you're the best na by far and no one else has the experience or skill to compete so don't blame us for not

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Sure we may be better than the other regiments but you do realize people have the ability to improve. Best way to improve is to surround yourself and compete with players who are better than you. When yalls just finna ban regiments who are better than you, you aren't going to improve and than whats the point of even playing. Why compete in a league that wont even include the best NA regiment. Like wheres the competetive spirit wouldnt you want to try and take down the best reg and not avoid them. Ion know yalls built different or some shit cuz I would be up for the challenge.

getting 10-0ed and completely obliterated isn’t a good way to improve nor is it enjoyable for either side. That’s a pretty lousy argument and has arguably been proven wrong time and time again

I’m also probably not even gonna join the 84th

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Aight i understand maybe the trying to train and catch up point is ridiculous but what is banning the 12e going to do. You do realize most people in the 12e have been playing within the same regiments/teams for years. Come pull up to our Ts literally anyday of the week nearly any time of the day/night and there's people in channels together. Its not like were logging into ts at 9 for a gf and by 9:45 everyone is gone. Sure some members may come and go quickly but for the most part we all genuily like eachother. The most likely scenario is that 80% of the 12e players will go off and join the same regiment and just create another stack just under a different name. I

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 04:09:00 am »

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yea thing is we have a whole bus full of shitties so even with some competitive players it won't really matter. we just lost a groupfight because we had multiple people go 5-20 or lower so that's something

LG beat 42nd in like 8/10 groupfights sometimes very badly. 42nd was still able to get the win in a 1v1 though. Groupfights are not really definitive gauges for who will win a 1v1 because there's more factors in a 1v1 like shooting and leading. The latter of which 9th/84th/20th also outclass the other regiments in. And I know you guys didn't have everyone I mentioned above there anyways, I also left out Dan.

you're right but look at this screenshot please, every 12e member gets 15+ kills. leading doesn't make a difference when the skill gap is this different. I understand being mad that your highpowered reg isn't playing (71st understands) but back then there were more than one. the rsl is the only reg that can somewhat hang with you and they just lost Yolo and Fireboy. besides jolly and glenn are not good leaders in 1v1s/competitive stuff (sorry fellas) but you have two of the most accomplished linebattle leaders in nw history, plus others that are more than capable.
keep the boys together but you're the best na by far and no one else has the experience or skill to compete so don't blame us for not

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Sure we may be better than the other regiments but you do realize people have the ability to improve. Best way to improve is to surround yourself and compete with players who are better than you. When yalls just finna ban regiments who are better than you, you aren't going to improve and than whats the point of even playing. Why compete in a league that wont even include the best NA regiment. Like wheres the competetive spirit wouldnt you want to try and take down the best reg and not avoid them. Ion know yalls built different or some shit cuz I would be up for the challenge.

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 03:49:43 am »

the 12e is being kinda cringe rn

not as cringe as ur face

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Premier League Season 9

« on: September 01, 2020, 03:43:07 am »

that moment when you're getting patched out of a game

Why train for an upcomming league and try to improve the overall skill of your regiment when you can just ban the Premier NA regiment in the game from competing in the "Premier" league.

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American Regimental Groupfighting League [Season 2]

« on: August 28, 2020, 06:05:46 am »

BREAKING!

The 12e have placed SHINTO, prominent memer and simp for Mehstery, on Injured Reserve due to Shinto being a retard and falling down a ledge.

woah you used the r word

Instead of goining to IR would you be interested in joining an elite group of Bombardiers? asking for a friend https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43611.0;topicseen

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Regiments / Re: 420th Field Artillery Gang (Current Lan NA Champions Fornite)

« on: August 28, 2020, 05:50:11 am »

Looking for a new roster for the next upcomming LAN.

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American "7v7" Groupfighting Draft League

« on: August 28, 2020, 04:58:26 am »

Theres an undrafted pool right?

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: North American "7v7" Groupfighting Draft League

« on: August 27, 2020, 11:15:17 pm »

Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/burhmomento123/
Name: Mikey
Registering as a Captain?: nye
Did you read and accept the rules?: yes

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Competitive NA Events/Tournaments / Re: The Fighting Pit 3v3 Tournament [1 Sword & 2 Muskets]

« on: August 11, 2020, 05:39:47 am »

GG's Schmeat nation will rise again #WeHaveTheSchmeat #SchmeatYaLater #WashedKing