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Title: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on January 16, 2021, 08:02:30 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/PuYqL2a.png)

Feel free to share your thoughts and opinions
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on March 08, 2021, 02:28:42 pm
For the next edition I aim for having a two days tournament

On the first day (Friday or Saturday) there will be played qualifiers. I'm not 100% sure which format I want to use. single elim-knock outs would definitely be fun, as there are more surprises possible then at a double elim or even group stage. On the other side a group stage would provide everyone with 2-3 matches.

I was thinking about having 4 different single knockouts, and the winner advances onto championship sunday. Or double eliminiation and everyone has to play at least 2 matches

For sunday the top 4 teams are set, with 4 coming from the qualifiers.

It will be a 8 team double elimination

SO let me think about it, especially the captains if they think it#s a nice new idea or not
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Kore on May 03, 2021, 02:49:27 am
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Shadey on May 03, 2021, 03:01:42 am
My thoughts,

(https://i.gyazo.com/898c922e1ca433a3fc07a9fc9706dbd0.png)

That is all.

Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: StockholmDE on May 03, 2021, 03:03:39 am
Tbh all of you are pathetic in their way.

@Oneil your behaving like a 12-year-old. If you have nothing of worth to say shout up, please. You're just behaving like a cringe asshole.

@Litost possibly just act differently next time. Most people would have felt with you, now people only laugh at you cause you look like people spoiled with success that cant take a loss.

@Coco disappointing to see you have no sportsmanship at all in a tournament of medium importance.



But like generally, it's a tournament in a video game... not even an important one. I dont see price money being exchanged, I dont see an important tournament that happened, I dont see anything that changed your life, not even your NW life. Stop burning eachother and play the next tournament in 2 or 4 weeks, whatever.

Fun > results?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEp08vVYreg
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Lonedoge. on May 03, 2021, 03:06:04 am
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
go back to arguing on the political thread where you belong kore
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on May 03, 2021, 03:13:50 am
can we all take a second and agree that even if u guys complain about ping, ull never get a portuguese ping and u will never get to see the autistic bugs i get sometimes, if u would i bet non of u would be playing nw rn. #PrayForPortugueseInternet/ping
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Lonedoge. on May 03, 2021, 03:18:13 am
can we all take a second and agree that even if u guys complain about ping, ull never get a portuguese ping and u will never get to see the autistic bugs i get sometimes, if u would i bet non of u would be playing nw rn. #PrayForPortugueseInternet/ping
living in the countryside for a bit was pure pain with ping ik ur feeling

wasnt rly the ping in this case tbh was just server in general but fuck it who cares anymore
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on May 03, 2021, 03:19:14 am
can we all take a second and agree that even if u guys complain about ping, ull never get a portuguese ping and u will never get to see the autistic bugs i get sometimes, if u would i bet non of u would be playing nw rn. #PrayForPortugueseInternet/ping
living in the countryside for a bit was pure pain with ping ik ur feeling

wasnt rly the ping in this case tbh was just server in general but fuck it who cares anymore
Shit housery tourney, it is what it is bro we move and ye ive also played in better svs but ye its done now !
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Golden. on May 03, 2021, 03:20:42 am
Tbh all of you are pathetic in their way.

@Oneil your behaving like a 12-year-old. If you have nothing of worth to say shout up, please. You're just behaving like a cringe asshole.

@Litost possibly just act differently next time. Most people would have felt with you, now people only laugh at you cause you look like people spoiled with success that cant take a loss.

@Coco disappointing to see you have no sportsmanship at all in a tournament of medium importance.



But like generally, it's a tournament in a video game... not even an important one. I dont see price money being exchanged, I dont see an important tournament that happened, I dont see anything that changed your life, not even your NW life. Stop burning eachother and play the next tournament in 2 or 4 weeks, whatever.

Fun > results?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEp08vVYreg

Wow your right stockholm maybe we should all just meet up in person and do the same thing with some foam noodles, then we will see who the real men are right?

You know you still gonna get whooped with this  ;D

Spoiler
(https://www.physioroom.com/images/products//full/39217_image2.jpg)
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Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Kore on May 03, 2021, 03:23:41 am
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
go back to arguing on the political thread where you belong kore

make me
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: StockholmDE on May 03, 2021, 03:30:52 am
Spoiler
Tbh all of you are pathetic in their way.

@Oneil your behaving like a 12-year-old. If you have nothing of worth to say shout up, please. You're just behaving like a cringe asshole.

@Litost possibly just act differently next time. Most people would have felt with you, now people only laugh at you cause you look like people spoiled with success that cant take a loss.

@Coco disappointing to see you have no sportsmanship at all in a tournament of medium importance.



But like generally, it's a tournament in a video game... not even an important one. I dont see price money being exchanged, I dont see an important tournament that happened, I dont see anything that changed your life, not even your NW life. Stop burning eachother and play the next tournament in 2 or 4 weeks, whatever.

Fun > results?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEp08vVYreg

Wow your right stockholm maybe we should all just meet up in person and do the same thing with some foam noodles, then we will see who the real men are right?

You know you still gonna get whooped with this  ;D

Spoiler
(https://www.physioroom.com/images/products//full/39217_image2.jpg)
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Great idea Golden. You get the green noodle and Achilles takes the blue one. The winner decides the server.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on May 03, 2021, 10:54:51 am
Spoiler
Tbh all of you are pathetic in their way.

@Oneil your behaving like a 12-year-old. If you have nothing of worth to say shout up, please. You're just behaving like a cringe asshole.

@Litost possibly just act differently next time. Most people would have felt with you, now people only laugh at you cause you look like people spoiled with success that cant take a loss.

@Coco disappointing to see you have no sportsmanship at all in a tournament of medium importance.



But like generally, it's a tournament in a video game... not even an important one. I dont see price money being exchanged, I dont see an important tournament that happened, I dont see anything that changed your life, not even your NW life. Stop burning eachother and play the next tournament in 2 or 4 weeks, whatever.

Fun > results?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEp08vVYreg
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ur team got shit on shut up stockholm!
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on May 03, 2021, 11:20:19 am
Dont shit talk ur reg vegi wtf
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on May 03, 2021, 11:33:22 am
Dont shit talk ur reg vegi wtf
Since when am I not allowed to shittalk Stockholm?
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on May 03, 2021, 11:42:53 am
Dont shit talk ur reg vegi wtf
Since when am I not allowed to shittalk Stockholm?
okay fair point
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on May 03, 2021, 12:39:41 pm
Tbh all of you are pathetic in their way.

@Oneil your behaving like a 12-year-old. If you have nothing of worth to say shout up, please. You're just behaving like a cringe asshole.

@Litost possibly just act differently next time. Most people would have felt with you, now people only laugh at you cause you look like people spoiled with success that cant take a loss.

@Coco disappointing to see you have no sportsmanship at all in a tournament of medium importance.



But like generally, it's a tournament in a video game... not even an important one. I dont see price money being exchanged, I dont see an important tournament that happened, I dont see anything that changed your life, not even your NW life. Stop burning eachother and play the next tournament in 2 or 4 weeks, whatever.

Fun > results?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEp08vVYreg

@ing me and not alatriste really shows how dense you are
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on May 03, 2021, 03:17:52 pm
Its a bit silly that you post that about litost. Firstly it wasn't a ping problem, it was a server problem. The server was completely unplayable. Me python domi lone and marquez were all experiencing major server side delay, sometimes these delays were more than a full second. Python and Domi were both iceskating around the map and were unable to play properly.

Secondly we left the server after we had proposed everything to the admins, including switching to the other tournament server, switching to a completely independent server, or even simply resetting the one we were playing on. All of this got denied by the hosts because coco didn't agree. Of course coco isn't gonna agree when most of his players weren't experiencing any problems and his team was winning.

As a host this is where you have to step in and have the balls to make the decision that is objectively the best for the tournament as a whole. If one team is experiencing major trouble with a server and another is not, then it does not hurt the other team to reset or switch servers but it does hurt the first team that is experiencing problems to stay on the server. No, it is not more "fair" to stay on the initial server, it is actually the complete opposite of fair to stay on a server where one side can't play properly but the other can.

In the end we had a chat where we decided that it was utterly pointless to continue playing, which is why we left.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on May 03, 2021, 03:31:47 pm
50
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on May 03, 2021, 03:42:18 pm
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
go back to arguing on the political thread where you belong kore

Oh shit LMAO Kore nice try you got btfo’d eternally by lonedoge there ;D ;D. Embarrassament at it’s finest.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on May 03, 2021, 03:55:10 pm
Käften Achilles
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on May 03, 2021, 03:55:31 pm
skoja

eller?
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Fralla8 on May 03, 2021, 03:57:19 pm
Achilles asså
vad händer
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Hertz on May 03, 2021, 04:52:43 pm
Its a bit silly that you post that about litost. Firstly it wasn't a ping problem, it was a server problem. The server was completely unplayable. Me python domi lone and marquez were all experiencing major server side delay, sometimes these delays were more than a full second. Python and Domi were both iceskating around the map and were unable to play properly.

Secondly we left the server after we had proposed everything to the admins, including switching to the other tournament server, switching to a completely independent server, or even simply resetting the one we were playing on. All of this got denied by the hosts because coco didn't agree. Of course coco isn't gonna agree when most of his players weren't experiencing any problems and his team was winning.

As a host this is where you have to step in and have the balls to make the decision that is objectively the best for the tournament as a whole. If one team is experiencing major trouble with a server and another is not, then it does not hurt the other team to reset or switch servers but it does hurt the first team that is experiencing problems to stay on the server. No, it is not more "fair" to stay on the initial server, it is actually the complete opposite of fair to stay on a server where one side can't play properly but the other can.

In the end we had a chat where we decided that it was utterly pointless to continue playing, which is why we left.
Preach!
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on May 03, 2021, 04:58:07 pm
Achilles asså
vad händer
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on May 03, 2021, 05:02:22 pm

@Litost possibly just act differently next time. Most people would have felt with you, now people only laugh at you cause you look like people spoiled with success that cant take a loss.


If they laugh at us then clearly they don't understand the situation or are just baiting/trolling, and the vast majority would do what we did in our situation. We've taken many hard losses in the past, including losing 7-1 to 10C, 7-2 to grouped, losing 7-1 to a much weaker 7even team than yesterday, and nearly losing to Bruh and virgins when it was a matchpoint, so clearly we aren't a team spoiled with success, and yet we never complained at all.  We only complain when there's actually an issue, which there was. It failed to be resolved and we didn't want to play under those conditions anymore, so we left.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on May 03, 2021, 05:11:25 pm
Achilles asså
vad händer

ey chilla man måste gå loss ibland.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Mauri on May 03, 2021, 05:24:37 pm
Why you guys have bad ping? Just move to NRW
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Kore on May 03, 2021, 07:08:47 pm
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
go back to arguing on the political thread where you belong kore

Oh shit you Kore nice try you got btfo’d eternally by lonedoge there ;D ;D. Embarrassament at it’s finest.

Achilles be like

(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5fecb5fa60488f2e470efd74/3x)
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on May 03, 2021, 07:26:50 pm
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
go back to arguing on the political thread where you belong kore

Oh shit you Kore nice try you got btfo’d eternally by lonedoge there ;D ;D. Embarrassament at it’s finest.

Achilles be like

(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5fecb5fa60488f2e470efd74/3x)

Hmm Kore maybe create a new team?
(https://i.ibb.co/C69b0P6/47798-ab.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

I didn't mean that I take it back
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on May 03, 2021, 07:31:05 pm
Its a bit silly that you post that about litost. Firstly it wasn't a ping problem, it was a server problem. The server was completely unplayable. Me python domi lone and marquez were all experiencing major server side delay, sometimes these delays were more than a full second. Python and Domi were both iceskating around the map and were unable to play properly.

Secondly we left the server after we had proposed everything to the admins, including switching to the other tournament server, switching to a completely independent server, or even simply resetting the one we were playing on. All of this got denied by the hosts because coco didn't agree. Of course coco isn't gonna agree when most of his players weren't experiencing any problems and his team was winning.

As a host this is where you have to step in and have the balls to make the decision that is objectively the best for the tournament as a whole. If one team is experiencing major trouble with a server and another is not, then it does not hurt the other team to reset or switch servers but it does hurt the first team that is experiencing problems to stay on the server. No, it is not more "fair" to stay on the initial server, it is actually the complete opposite of fair to stay on a server where one side can't play properly but the other can.

In the end we had a chat where we decided that it was utterly pointless to continue playing, which is why we left.
Cunt [ kuhnt ]

Noun Slang: Vulgar.
the vulva or vagina.
Extremely Disparaging and Offensive.
a contemptuous term used to refer to a woman.
a term used to refer to a contemptible person.

Synonyms: Rikkert, Hertz, Lonedoge, Alatriste, Marxeil...
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on May 03, 2021, 07:32:59 pm


"Of course coco isn't gonna agree when most of his players weren't experiencing any problems and his team was winning. "


EDIT:
Admittedly I did offer a 45thN FRA server with a 6v6 tournament map mid match, it was all set up and ready to go - it would've not taken more than three minutes to just switch over but its ultimately up to the hosts to decide and make the call.

Ultimately it just comes down to good sportsman ship from either side which would normally fix most issues but in the eventuality of a deadlock as seen yesterday, it should always come down to the hosts decision.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on May 03, 2021, 07:40:21 pm
Orange Fluff Cake RECIPE

Step 1
Position a rack in the center of the oven and preheat to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Have ready an ungreased 10-inch tube pan with a removable bottom. Don't use a nonstick surface pan.

Step 2
Sift the flour, 1/2 cup sugar, baking powder and salt into a medium bowl. Form a well in the center and add the melted butter, 1/3 cup orange juice, 1 teaspoon orange zest, egg yolks and vanilla. Beat for 1 to 2 minutes with an electric mixer.

Step 3
In a large glass or metal mixing bowl, beat egg whites and cream of tartar until foamy. Gradually add 1/2 cup sugar, continuing to beat until stiff peaks form. Fold 1/3 of the whites into the batter, then quickly fold in remaining whites until no streaks remain.

Step 4
Pour batter into the ungreased tube pan. Bake for 60 to 75 minutes, until the top springs back when lightly touched and a toothpick inserted comes out clean. Immediately invert and let the cake hang upside down until completely cool.

Step 5
Turn right side up and run a sharp knife around the edge to separate the cake from the pan. Remove sides. Run a knife around the center tube and under the cake; remove the pan bottom. Turn the cake right side up on a serving plate.

Step 6
To make the glaze: In a small bowl combine the confectioner's sugar, 2 tablespoons orange juice, and 2 teaspoons orange zest. Spread over the top of the cake, letting some drip down the sides. Let stand at room temperature until glaze has set, about one hour.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on May 03, 2021, 07:46:22 pm
lmao quit crying
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on May 03, 2021, 09:39:25 pm
lmao quit crying

I agree with Mr Fwuffy here, we want beef not drama about the tournament. We move we move.
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: Kore on May 03, 2021, 11:32:17 pm
lonedoge sure got a little edgy after joining the big boy team lítost

also lmao achilles nice try but you got btfo'd eternally by golden there  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
go back to arguing on the political thread where you belong kore

Oh shit you Kore nice try you got btfo’d eternally by lonedoge there ;D ;D. Embarrassament at it’s finest.

Achilles be like

(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5fecb5fa60488f2e470efd74/3x)

Hmm Kore maybe create a new team?
(https://i.ibb.co/C69b0P6/47798-ab.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

I didn't mean that I take it back

tournament win from spec is still a win (https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/349048/1)
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on July 07, 2021, 01:13:56 am
When are the EGS points and standings going to be updated?
Title: Re: EGS - Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on July 07, 2021, 01:26:48 pm
When are the EGS points and standings going to be updated?
Soon. With constant team disbands/merges and general people swapping teams, it is hard to track points and it is taking a while to update the standings. Season 1 is officially over with the ChimpZ crowned as champions as they gathered the most points throughout the season and with there being no finals stage for this season after much talk, they are crowned champions of Season 1.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on July 09, 2021, 05:05:37 pm
Opinions on the yellow musket texture pack? Is this classed as a unfair advantage or  is it perfectly fine? Discuss please. Will help us decide what follows next.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Lonedoge. on July 09, 2021, 05:29:54 pm
i dont think its unfair enough to warrant having everyone to show their games

something like a zoom out mod would be much more unfair
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on July 09, 2021, 05:49:30 pm
At the end of the day why do people use it? If not to have an advantage, they ain’t pretty. even if it is a slight one. I think it should be banned. And those who are known to have used it. Must show their games or proof.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on July 09, 2021, 06:02:54 pm
Should not be allowed end of story
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 09, 2021, 06:14:09 pm
Should not be allowed end of story
based
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Lonedoge. on July 09, 2021, 06:23:56 pm
after much discussion with distinguished members of the community, i have come to the conclusion that all users of yellow muskets should be executed publicly
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 09, 2021, 06:37:02 pm
after much discussion with distinguished members of the community, i have come to the conclusion that all users of yellow muskets should be executed publicly
Reign of Terror incoming?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on July 09, 2021, 06:45:13 pm
Totally agree on the yellow muskets ban, I will comply with the admins decision by using my new texture pack 😎🤙

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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on July 09, 2021, 07:28:15 pm
With EGS me and the admin team would like to bring in more consistent and profound rules especially those surrounding game modifications.

Please feel free to discuss your opinions here however do note that with the entry of a large prize pool and some making rather personal donations ultimately it's up to the discretion of the donators and the organization what will and will not eventually be allowed. If a player decides to break these rules once formed they will be punished regardless of their stature in the community.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on July 09, 2021, 09:28:41 pm
With EGS me and the admin team would like to bring in more consistent and profound rules especially those surrounding game modifications.

Please feel free to discuss your opinions here however do note that with the entry of a large prize pool and some making rather personal donations ultimately it's up to the discretion of the donators and the organization what will and will not eventually be allowed. If a player decides to break these rules once formed they will be punished regardless of their stature in the community.

i will give u a tenner if u let me win
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on July 09, 2021, 09:40:40 pm
With EGS me and the admin team would like to bring in more consistent and profound rules especially those surrounding game modifications.

Please feel free to discuss your opinions here however do note that with the entry of a large prize pool and some making rather personal donations ultimately it's up to the discretion of the donators and the organization what will and will not eventually be allowed. If a player decides to break these rules once formed they will be punished regardless of their stature in the community.
It's honestly a very difficult issue. I remember when it happened on Native (twice in major tournaments as far as I recall) it was always a subject that vastly divided the competitive community, especially because the incidents happened during the tournament and matches results/player punishment were therefore at stake on top of the issue itself. It's a really good thing you decided to bring it up to the community beforehand but ultimately as you mentioned, it's something you will likely have to decide between yourselves because I fear it's not a subject upon which a large part of the community will share an overwhelming common agreement.

Good initiative either way, a civil discussion can't hurt anyone besides cretins.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on July 10, 2021, 02:03:13 am
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on July 10, 2021, 02:39:01 am
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 10, 2021, 03:11:59 am
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on July 10, 2021, 04:11:08 am
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on July 10, 2021, 02:09:30 pm
Ban coloured muskets, it's obviously an advantage as it makes them easier to see therefore should be banned... Suprised it's being questioned so much tbh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on July 10, 2021, 02:09:54 pm
Ban coloured muskets, it's obviously an advantage as it makes them easier to see therefore should be banned... Suprised it's being questioned so much tbh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on July 10, 2021, 02:21:22 pm
Seems rlly hard to check it properly imo

And we all know certain people will keep using it without any proper checking
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 10, 2021, 02:46:38 pm
Seems rlly hard to check it properly imo

And we all know certain people will keep using it without any proper checking
NW Tournament Client with a bitcoin miner when?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on July 10, 2021, 02:55:41 pm
Personally have to agree it is a slight advantage in competitive situations. You have to ask yourself why it is being used if its not a advantage. In your peripheral vision in the corner of your eye you can see a bright yellow line, you are more aware and will react quicker compared to a normal musket IMO. Obviously it is here to be discussed to see both sides and what the general opinion is. Personally against it but hearing all sides!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on July 10, 2021, 02:57:30 pm
Yellow muskets suck!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on July 10, 2021, 03:02:23 pm
Personally have to agree it is a slight advantage in competitive situations. You have to ask yourself why it is being used if its not a advantage. In your peripheral vision in the corner of your eye you can see a bright yellow line, you are more aware and will react quicker compared to a normal musket IMO. Obviously it is here to be discussed to see both sides and what the general opinion is. Personally against it but hearing all sides!

In Valorant most people change to color blind mode so the enemies are highlighted in yellow, i did it too and it rlly helps alot

so it should be the same here
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dusbled on July 10, 2021, 03:55:20 pm
Personally have to agree it is a slight advantage in competitive situations. You have to ask yourself why it is being used if its not a advantage. In your peripheral vision in the corner of your eye you can see a bright yellow line, you are more aware and will react quicker compared to a normal musket IMO. Obviously it is here to be discussed to see both sides and what the general opinion is. Personally against it but hearing all sides!

In Valorant most people change to color blind mode so the enemies are highlighted in yellow, i did it too and it rlly helps alot

so it should be the same here

+1
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on July 11, 2021, 05:28:25 am
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.

as I said, back up your mods or create another unmodded client just for tournaments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on July 11, 2021, 11:57:34 am
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.

Any mod that changes the colour of a unit or item in the game to a clearer and brighter colour is going to give someone an advantage, no matter how small. Even if it’s making the trousers of certain units a brighter white. Or muskets yellow. It’s a small advantage. But it is one. Crosshairs mods are fine as they will only show when in shooting mode I believe.

Mods I think should be banned:
Troop retextures (for example making the British troops trousers a brighter white),
Yellow bayonets (or any other colour or retexture),
Zoom out mods,
Health hack mods,

I personally see no point in needing any of these unless you’re trying to gain some advantage over the standard game.
If something is easier to see and spot due to a modification it should be banned imo.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on July 11, 2021, 12:01:16 pm
how about everything allowed but not zoom hack or modified WEAPON textures. Like u can all kys if u think im getting rid of my red sky
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 11, 2021, 02:09:14 pm
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.

Any mod that changes the colour of a unit or item in the game to a clearer and brighter colour is going to give someone an advantage, no matter how small. Even if it’s making the trousers of certain units a brighter white. Or muskets yellow. It’s a small advantage. But it is one. Crosshairs mods are fine as they will only show when in shooting mode I believe.

Mods I think should be banned:
Troop retextures (for example making the British troops trousers a brighter white),
Yellow bayonets (or any other colour or retexture),
Zoom out mods,
Health hack mods,

I personally see no point in needing any of these unless you’re trying to gain some advantage over the standard game.
If something is easier to see and spot due to a modification it should be banned imo.
It seems we are arguing over something quite petty since I agree with the latter three mods that you mentioned, I just have a very nice skin for the british units that doesn't necessarily make them brighter just changes them from 33rd to 17th, I dont see how that would in any way help me in a groupfighting tournament...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on July 11, 2021, 03:10:05 pm
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ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.

Any mod that changes the colour of a unit or item in the game to a clearer and brighter colour is going to give someone an advantage, no matter how small. Even if it’s making the trousers of certain units a brighter white. Or muskets yellow. It’s a small advantage. But it is one. Crosshairs mods are fine as they will only show when in shooting mode I believe.

Mods I think should be banned:
Troop retextures (for example making the British troops trousers a brighter white),
Yellow bayonets (or any other colour or retexture),
Zoom out mods,
Health hack mods,

I personally see no point in needing any of these unless you’re trying to gain some advantage over the standard game.
If something is easier to see and spot due to a modification it should be banned imo.
It seems we are arguing over something quite petty since I agree with the latter three mods that you mentioned, I just have a very nice skin for the british units that doesn't necessarily make them brighter just changes them from 33rd to 17th, I dont see how that would in any way help me in a groupfighting tournament...
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Obviously if all it does is change the number that’s fine. But some retextures make the white if the trousers extremely white. Which I would say helps a player fighting against these troops more aware of where they are as it’s easier to spot when the colours are brighter.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on July 11, 2021, 04:09:52 pm
Perfect example would be the 14e's texture pack as it makes the 45e units wear white uniforms etc :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on July 12, 2021, 06:38:56 pm
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.

Any mod that changes the colour of a unit or item in the game to a clearer and brighter colour is going to give someone an advantage, no matter how small. Even if it’s making the trousers of certain units a brighter white. Or muskets yellow. It’s a small advantage. But it is one. Crosshairs mods are fine as they will only show when in shooting mode I believe.

Mods I think should be banned:
Troop retextures (for example making the British troops trousers a brighter white),
Yellow bayonets (or any other colour or retexture),
Zoom out mods,
Health hack mods,

I personally see no point in needing any of these unless you’re trying to gain some advantage over the standard game.
If something is easier to see and spot due to a modification it should be banned imo.
I will still use yellow musket  ;)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on July 12, 2021, 06:42:19 pm
ban every single modification

if people want modded NW, they can backup their files
I don't see how things like a closed crosshair or faction skins that give no benefit in differentiating enemies helps out in a GF tournament but okay.

Any mod that changes the colour of a unit or item in the game to a clearer and brighter colour is going to give someone an advantage, no matter how small. Even if it’s making the trousers of certain units a brighter white. Or muskets yellow. It’s a small advantage. But it is one. Crosshairs mods are fine as they will only show when in shooting mode I believe.

Mods I think should be banned:
Troop retextures (for example making the British troops trousers a brighter white),
Yellow bayonets (or any other colour or retexture),
Zoom out mods,
Health hack mods,

I personally see no point in needing any of these unless you’re trying to gain some advantage over the standard game.
If something is easier to see and spot due to a modification it should be banned imo.
I will still use yellow musket  ;)
That's fine, you can watch everyone else play with your yellow muskets whilst you're in spec banned from playing ;)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on July 12, 2021, 06:44:08 pm
Yellow muskets give players a definite full advantage which other players can’t access outside the video options in the base game. And thus shouldn’t be allowed

Do a vote about allowing yellow muskets amongst EGS captains then just ban any player that does not comply with these rules - I don’t even know why this is such a contentious issue, this is blatant cheating and shouldn’t be allowed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on July 12, 2021, 08:37:57 pm
Yellow muskets give players a definite full advantage which other players can’t access outside the video options in the base game. And thus shouldn’t be allowed

Do a vote about allowing yellow muskets amongst EGS captains then just ban any player that does not comply with these rules - I don’t even know why this is such a contentious issue, this is blatant cheating and shouldn’t be allowed
Was posted to gather opinions on the matter, we already have a idea of what we want to do but we wanted to "feel the water". Team leaders will be messaged tonight in regards to the matter and we shall announce something in the coming days regarding it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on July 12, 2021, 08:54:53 pm
Yellow muskets give players a definite full advantage which other players can’t access outside the video options in the base game. And thus shouldn’t be allowed

Do a vote about allowing yellow muskets amongst EGS captains then just ban any player that does not comply with these rules - I don’t even know why this is such a contentious issue, this is blatant cheating and shouldn’t be allowed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on July 13, 2021, 04:25:04 pm
Yellow muskets give players a definite full advantage which other players can’t access outside the video options in the base game. And thus shouldn’t be allowed

Do a vote about allowing yellow muskets amongst EGS captains then just ban any player that does not comply with these rules - I don’t even know why this is such a contentious issue, this is blatant cheating and shouldn’t be allowed

thing is, how are you gonna handle it ? how can you be sure players aren't using it ? they can just agree and still have it installed anyways and you wouldnt be able to know
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on July 13, 2021, 04:51:51 pm
Yellow muskets give players a definite full advantage which other players can’t access outside the video options in the base game. And thus shouldn’t be allowed

Do a vote about allowing yellow muskets amongst EGS captains then just ban any player that does not comply with these rules - I don’t even know why this is such a contentious issue, this is blatant cheating and shouldn’t be allowed

thing is, how are you gonna handle it ? how can you be sure players aren't using it ? they can just agree and still have it installed anyways and you wouldnt be able to know
true, although a lot of people that use it are people who upload to youtube so at least u can get those people to stop... or you could get the captain to gather a screen shot from each player at the start of the tourny to show that they're not using the musket colour change...

Health hack is a tough one but i guess shouldnt be allowed too as Hertz said.... But thats been around ages and its only a very minor benefit i guess...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on July 13, 2021, 04:55:08 pm
Since I don't record anymore I'm going to download every retexture possible, never screenshot because im bad anyway and I will become top 1. Unlucky kids.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on July 13, 2021, 05:01:50 pm
true, although a lot of people that use it are people who upload to youtube so at least u can get those people to stop... or you could get the captain to gather a screen shot from each player at the start of the tourny to show that they're not using the musket colour change...

Health hack is a tough one but i guess shouldnt be allowed too as Hertz said.... But thats been around ages and its only a very minor benefit i guess...

even if u get a ss at the start of the tournament, u could still quickly leave after it is taken then put the files back in and re-launch the game and i dont think anyone would see it

also, even though the health hack only gives a minor benefit, it still is a benefit over the other team (given they dont use it aswell) so yeah shouldnt be allowed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on July 13, 2021, 05:35:28 pm
If and when we implement these rules a suspicious player list will be drawn up. Players on this list may or may not be asked for a screenshot during official tournament matches (at a random time in between a round say.) by an admin.

 If they refuse, leave the server or are unable to provide a screenshot in a reasonable time they will be punished for cheating or if the screenshot shows obvious evidence of modification.

Something quite simple like that, this is yet to be implemented and we will fully iron these out on if and when we decide to implement this.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on July 13, 2021, 05:38:58 pm
make yellow muskets mandatory
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on July 13, 2021, 05:51:50 pm
Yellow muskets give players a definite full advantage which other players can’t access outside the video options in the base game. And thus shouldn’t be allowed

Do a vote about allowing yellow muskets amongst EGS captains then just ban any player that does not comply with these rules - I don’t even know why this is such a contentious issue, this is blatant cheating and shouldn’t be allowed

thing is, how are you gonna handle it ? how can you be sure players aren't using it ? they can just agree and still have it installed anyways and you wouldnt be able to know

Its up to the hosts own initiative to how far they want to go in actually implementing this rule effectively. I see it as a matter principle for the hosts if they want to implement this rule, even though it may be tough to police - as hosts of a major tournament with a cash prize cheating in general, no matter how blatant cannot be allowed and there must be at least some explicit ruleset and repercussion towards any rule breakers.

Also whatever decision the hosts come up with, just follow them and if you don't you're just a shitty cheat.  Actually mind boggling that some people in this community actually defending the use of brightly coloured muskets lmao
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on July 13, 2021, 05:56:17 pm
Because of the low IQ of the NW community, not banning any of these texture things has now lead to a large portion of the community cheating

Allowing these mods has just lead to people pushing the boundary more and more. Now i see screenshots like this on my feed

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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on July 13, 2021, 06:18:12 pm
Because of the low IQ of the NW community, not banning any of these texture things has now lead to a large portion of the community cheating

Allowing these mods has just lead to people pushing the boundary more and more. Now i see screenshots like this on my feed

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looks like witchers one:)

someone ask him do some screens during EGS
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on July 13, 2021, 07:08:48 pm
probably only possibillity is to force every single player to make screens and make the captains to collect and upload them here.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on July 13, 2021, 07:39:04 pm
If and when we implement these rules a suspicious player list will be drawn up. Players on this list may or may not be asked for a screenshot during official tournament matches (at a random time in between a round say.) by an admin.

 If they refuse, leave the server or are unable to provide a screenshot in a reasonable time they will be punished for cheating or if the screenshot shows obvious evidence of modification.

Something quite simple like that, this is yet to be implemented and we will fully iron these out on if and when we decide to implement this.

fair enough
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on July 13, 2021, 08:46:30 pm
why only sus players? its like nearly no work, and the result is probably worth it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on July 13, 2021, 08:59:07 pm
probably only possibillity is to force every single player to make screens and make the captains to collect and upload them here.
thats stupid
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: David_Schrein on July 13, 2021, 09:02:45 pm
Fwuffy send pics pls
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on July 13, 2021, 09:05:31 pm
Fwuffy send pics pls
ok
(https://i.imgur.com/t43Xnhr.jpg)
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on July 14, 2021, 05:27:22 pm
probably only possibillity is to force every single player to make screens and make the captains to collect and upload them here.
i agree, it takes 30 seconds to take a screenshot and send a link at the start of your first match of the tourny....

and maybe the suspicous list has to take a ss at the start of every match or smth idk...

If you're rlly sad enough to take a screenshot, leave the server and restart the game with all the textures it should be obvious to the referees and you're just straight up shit at the game needing to cheat that desperatly
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on July 20, 2021, 02:23:38 pm
probably only possibillity is to force every single player to make screens and make the captains to collect and upload them here.
i agree, it takes 30 seconds to take a screenshot and send a link at the start of your first match of the tourny....

and maybe the suspicous list has to take a ss at the start of every match or smth idk...

If you're rlly sad enough to take a screenshot, leave the server and restart the game with all the textures it should be obvious to the referees and you're just straight up shit at the game needing to cheat that desperatly
The management needed to do that is annoying.
Also if yellow muskets are banned then texture packs should be also. I know of some that reduce the demand on your game and can make it smoother, this gives people an advantage in itself as its editing the files of the game to ultimately give you an advantage. I’d you ban one texture pack then all texture packs need to be banned.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on July 20, 2021, 02:53:24 pm
probably only possibillity is to force every single player to make screens and make the captains to collect and upload them here.
i agree, it takes 30 seconds to take a screenshot and send a link at the start of your first match of the tourny....

and maybe the suspicous list has to take a ss at the start of every match or smth idk...

If you're rlly sad enough to take a screenshot, leave the server and restart the game with all the textures it should be obvious to the referees and you're just straight up shit at the game needing to cheat that desperatly
The management needed to do that is annoying.
Also if yellow muskets are banned then texture packs should be also. I know of some that reduce the demand on your game and can make it smoother, this gives people an advantage in itself as its editing the files of the game to ultimately give you an advantage. I%u2019d you ban one texture pack then all texture packs need to be banned.
No lol, texture packs and yellow (and other coloured) muskets are not the same. Often with these things it comes down to intent and the end objective. Is the objective to use yellow muskets to make the game look different/better - No its entirely for goal of making melee easier (even if its a very small advantage).

I changed my sky to red, was that for melee purpose? No it was because i thought it looked cool - the outcome didnt effect my gameplay in anyway


Its banned on native and its banned here for a logical reason.  Stop being such a crybaby and deal with it. If you cant play competitive without brightly coloured muskets, then this game isnt for you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on July 20, 2021, 02:56:37 pm
Can somebody give me the yellow muskets thx
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 20, 2021, 05:31:17 pm
Can somebody give me the yellow muskets thx
I suggest this menace to society be banned from EGS.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on July 20, 2021, 05:36:00 pm
Fwaffy is a very bad boy 😳🤫😏😏😏
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on July 20, 2021, 06:11:02 pm
Can somebody give me the yellow muskets thx
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on July 20, 2021, 07:52:45 pm
I no longer use yelow musket   8)

(https://i.gyazo.com/f294873d1125f749d0c7d78d553b10ce.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on July 20, 2021, 07:59:38 pm
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I no longer use yelow musket   8)

(https://i.gyazo.com/f294873d1125f749d0c7d78d553b10ce.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/mMEZlJs.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on July 20, 2021, 08:11:25 pm
Nobody will ever get me to delete my 18e texture pack I have been using it since some of you were toddlers you can get teh fuk
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on July 20, 2021, 09:27:36 pm
Nobody will ever get me to delete my 18e texture pack I have been using it since some of you were toddlers you can get teh fuk
good idea dog
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on July 20, 2021, 09:40:09 pm
Nobody will ever get me to delete my 18e texture pack I have been using it since some of you were toddlers you can get teh fuk

Delete it NOW!!!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gi on July 20, 2021, 09:59:59 pm
Nobody will ever get me to delete my 18e texture pack I have been using it since some of you were toddlers you can get teh fuk
so that's why you won the last nwl... cheating scum
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on July 21, 2021, 02:52:20 pm
Too late for you to take the dub away from me Gi

My only achievement becides being a meme can't be taken from me
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on July 21, 2021, 03:18:48 pm
Nobody will ever get me to delete my 18e texture pack I have been using it since some of you were toddlers you can get teh fuk
dw you can keep that terrible regiments texture pack x It was a ban mainly against coloured muskets really  :-*
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on July 23, 2021, 10:48:07 pm
We shall shortly be putting up our paypal pool which is open for everyone to view and donate themselves. Is anyone currently willing to donate any amount towards the EGS Prizepool which currently stands at 1025 euros?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ciombwoy on July 25, 2021, 04:55:06 pm
Malaka

(https://i.imgur.com/yUx2WvK.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on July 25, 2021, 04:55:50 pm
Malaka

(https://i.imgur.com/yUx2WvK.png)
put him in russia
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on July 25, 2021, 05:22:51 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/W4U4bG2.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on July 25, 2021, 05:25:43 pm
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catching chucky bang bang
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on July 25, 2021, 05:30:05 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/W4U4bG2.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: 2eFusGre_QuenouilleLf on July 25, 2021, 05:40:38 pm
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Only dead now
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on July 25, 2021, 05:42:19 pm
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Only dead now
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ItsAlex on July 25, 2021, 06:04:06 pm
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Only dead now
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on July 26, 2021, 03:06:55 am
i think teams that didnt show up on EGS dont deserve 5 points

only teams who atleast played GS's should receive some points
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on July 26, 2021, 03:30:21 am
i think teams that didnt show up on EGS dont deserve 5 points

only teams who atleast played GS's should receive some points
True
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikus on July 26, 2021, 10:45:26 am
i think teams that didnt show up on EGS dont deserve 5 points

only teams who atleast played GS's should receive some points
True
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: 19boboy97 on July 26, 2021, 11:03:19 am
We shall shortly be putting up our paypal pool which is open for everyone to view and donate themselves. Is anyone currently willing to donate any amount towards the EGS Prizepool which currently stands at 1025 euros?

Link?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on July 26, 2021, 12:31:28 pm
we should ban duels
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on July 26, 2021, 12:38:18 pm
we should ban duels

good chanter
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Xaos on July 31, 2021, 07:22:49 pm
is the minecraft texture pack allowed?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on July 31, 2021, 07:29:25 pm
is the minecraft texture pack allowed?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IR_Nr59_Lamastos on July 31, 2021, 11:08:51 pm
is the minecraft texture pack allowed?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 06, 2021, 08:55:16 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on August 09, 2021, 03:34:54 pm
Does anybody have a issue with the values of points gained in the team standings for a win in groupstages (10 per match win), compared to how many points you gained for your teams actual placement? Do you think the game is proportional? Or should the points gap be widened?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fralla8 on August 09, 2021, 06:02:52 pm
Considering you can finish 3rd in groups, win every tournament and end up tied with a team that wins their groups and always comes 2nd it's theoretically kinda weird.
Something like 125|100|80|60|40|30 wouldn't hurt. That way if you finish 3rd in groups (2 wins aka 20p) and win you only get 5 extra points ahead of a team that wins their group but loses the final. This still makes groups matches important but impossible for there to be a tie even though there's a "clear winner".

Basically there shouldn't be able to be a tie between the winner of the tournament and the team that comes 2nd.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on August 09, 2021, 06:23:43 pm
Why not be a little bit more advanced and base the points of a formula from the previous tournament's team standings; some groups are going to have harder opponents, same with knockouts. If you defeat someone who's top 3 in the team standings in groups, that surely should count for more than just beating a team that's last on the standings, same for knocking out favourites in the knockouts. X points for winning Y points for defeating Y team.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 09, 2021, 06:53:45 pm
Considering you can finish 3rd in groups, win every tournament and end up tied with a team that wins their groups and always comes 2nd it's theoretically kinda weird.
Something like 125|100|80|60|40|30 wouldn't hurt. That way if you finish 3rd in groups (2 wins aka 20p) and win you only get 5 extra points ahead of a team that wins their group but loses the final. This still makes groups matches important but impossible for there to be a tie even though there's a "clear winner".

Basically there shouldn't be able to be a tie between the winner of the tournament and the team that comes 2nd.
Made changes to the Standings according to this. Thanks for your idea.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on August 09, 2021, 07:15:38 pm
U forgot the top8 for CCCP and is MVP Standings limited to 20 and then Alphabetical?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 09, 2021, 07:32:45 pm
U forgot the top8 for CCCP and is MVP Standings limited to 20 and then Alphabetical?
Ill edit them on.Yes MVP standing is limited to 20 on fse but we do have a google document being shared soon. All people on equal points will remain alphabetically ranked.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on August 09, 2021, 11:30:10 pm
Does anyone have any ideas on what else we could add into EGS to make it better? Such as in game rules or maybe different features on the threads etc? Any cool ideas?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on August 09, 2021, 11:38:46 pm
Does anyone have any ideas on what else we could add into EGS to make it better? Such as in game rules or maybe different features on the threads etc? Any cool ideas?
Ban all of flusha's keys.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fralla8 on August 10, 2021, 12:26:04 am
Does anyone have any ideas on what else we could add into EGS to make it better? Such as in game rules or maybe different features on the threads etc? Any cool ideas?
Ban all of flusha's keys.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 10, 2021, 12:26:36 am
Does anyone have any ideas on what else we could add into EGS to make it better? Such as in game rules or maybe different features on the threads etc? Any cool ideas?
Ban all of flusha's keys.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on August 10, 2021, 12:26:58 am
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 10, 2021, 12:44:29 am
https://paypal.me/pools/c/8BV0U20rID Donations pool is now live! Freshly posted and prizepool soon to be transferred in, further donations are welcome! If you do donate we thank you very much in advance, any amount is welcome :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikus on August 13, 2021, 12:09:28 am
#FreeRiki
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on August 13, 2021, 11:28:15 am
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
I have 10+ keys stupid german cunt  :) :) :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on August 13, 2021, 12:19:15 pm
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
Send me those Guids please
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 13, 2021, 01:01:04 pm
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
Send me those Guids please
Clown admin
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on August 13, 2021, 01:13:56 pm
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
Send me those Guids please
Clown admin
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on August 13, 2021, 01:29:25 pm
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
Send me those Guids please
Clown admin
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on August 13, 2021, 01:44:00 pm
If that are the keys which Desant banned on Wurstfighting i can give a full list xd
Send me those Guids please
Imagine dont know flushas guids in 2021
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on August 15, 2021, 02:47:26 pm
A while back I wanted to react to part of a post Boboy made about price-pools for the groupfighting scene and the European Challenger Series project but forgot about it.

As I said earlier I voted for Pieter last time. Since I liked his proposal the most with Price/Tardet trying to shift more competitive maybe even something NW-Esports like with ​higher price pools and maybe even sponsors. I'm aware that they could do all that without the CR role, so does unicorn with his server boxes. Nonetheless I would have liked to see how this turned out with CR Pieter working with Price/Tardet. Would have regularly offered several hundred bucks prize money in tournaments.

PS: Don't really know where my 200 bucks for EIC went tho, but I don't mind since I enjoy the 92nd_Mod_Events and Prices Twitch Streams :)

  • https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/8xSuGDGAex

Right now the ECS has close to no chance of happening and quite frankly, although the idea itself was excellent, we should have realised that the EGS was already THE main competitive project for the gf scene and that trying to push a different product wasn't gonna be possible for such a small scene.

But instead, why not use some of the resources that were planned for the ECS, for the EGS? Chriseh has shown he is capable to host a regular show and make it interesting, he could also easily cover a grand-final if Chadman wasn't available for whatever reason and more importantly, upon Boboy's approval, the money he donated for the ECS (it's still 200 euros!) could be directly sent to increase the EGS prize-pool instead of being kept on a sleeping account for a tournament project that may never go live. 
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on August 17, 2021, 11:51:54 pm
If I understand correctly you can not be in the top 5 during all the tournaments but if you win the playoffs you win the EGS ? If so what is the point of winning every tournament if losing one could make you lose the season
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 18, 2021, 11:51:06 am
If I understand correctly you can not be in the top 5 during all the tournaments but if you win the playoffs you win the EGS ? If so what is the point of winning every tournament if losing one could make you lose the season
Winning the tournaments gives you the best possible seed. You signed up knowing the format. Seeming it was such high prizepool we wanted a play off stage for sure so it won’t be changed. Yes in theory what you said could happen, and that’s the beauty of the idea. Anyone who qualifies can win if they perform super well and it would go down in history as one of the greatest underdog wins ever.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on August 18, 2021, 12:13:59 pm
Just let nw die pls.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 18, 2021, 12:14:23 pm
rigged
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on August 18, 2021, 12:27:45 pm
If I understand correctly you can not be in the top 5 during all the tournaments but if you win the playoffs you win the EGS ? If so what is the point of winning every tournament if losing one could make you lose the season
Winning the tournaments gives you the best possible seed. You signed up knowing the format. Seeming it was such high prizepool we wanted a play off stage for sure so it won’t be changed. Yes in theory what you said could happen, and that’s the beauty of the idea. Anyone who qualifies can win if they perform super well and it would go down in history as one of the greatest underdog wins ever.
I really don't give a shit about reading the format, but thanks, I understand better now, although I still think it sucks.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on August 18, 2021, 12:31:35 pm
If I understand correctly you can not be in the top 5 during all the tournaments but if you win the playoffs you win the EGS ? If so what is the point of winning every tournament if losing one could make you lose the season
Winning the tournaments gives you the best possible seed. You signed up knowing the format. Seeming it was such high prizepool we wanted a play off stage for sure so it won’t be changed. Yes in theory what you said could happen, and that’s the beauty of the idea. Anyone who qualifies can win if they perform super well and it would go down in history as one of the greatest underdog wins ever.
I really don't give a shit reading the format, but thanks, I understand better now, although I still think it sucks.

Don’t know why you are being so rude, when you sign up for something like this you are expected to understand and agree to the format before the tournament starts, there was plenty of time to debate and discuss the format and etc on the discussion thread or with one of the admins.

But I can see instead you used that time to meme about your yellow muskets which are cheats, I think its your attitude that sucks.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on August 18, 2021, 12:37:36 pm
If I understand correctly you can not be in the top 5 during all the tournaments but if you win the playoffs you win the EGS ? If so what is the point of winning every tournament if losing one could make you lose the season
Winning the tournaments gives you the best possible seed. You signed up knowing the format. Seeming it was such high prizepool we wanted a play off stage for sure so it won’t be changed. Yes in theory what you said could happen, and that’s the beauty of the idea. Anyone who qualifies can win if they perform super well and it would go down in history as one of the greatest underdog wins ever.
I really don't give a shit reading the format, but thanks, I understand better now, although I still think it sucks.

Don’t know why you are being so rude, when you sign up for something like this you are expected to understand and agree to the format before the tournament starts, there was plenty of time to debate and discuss the format and etc on the discussion thread or with one of the admins.

But I can see instead you used that time to meme about your yellow muskets which are cheats, I think its your attitude that sucks.
"Feel free to share your thoughts and opinions"

It's the first sentence of the thread, if I'm so "rude" it's because I didn't like the way you tried to close the discussion with the "it's in the format you accepted it" obviously I accept it I don't see how doing what darktemplar said to do in his first sentence a problem and something i can't do after the tournament have start, you didn't eat your breakfast or what Golden chill out buddy :o
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on August 18, 2021, 12:39:29 pm
Entitled and Privileged   :-X
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on August 18, 2021, 12:53:59 pm
I like the playoff system, it brings importance to the very end of the season. It works very well in ice-hockey, prevents teams from getting champion months before the season ends (im looking at you Bundesliga and Premier League)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on August 18, 2021, 01:14:51 pm
I like the playoff system, it brings importance to the very end of the season. It works very well in ice-hockey, prevents teams from getting champion months before the season ends (im looking at you Bundesliga and Premier League)
Yes I guess from this point of view it looks good, I thought there was nothing really interesting about it but now that I see it gives you a better seed it makes sense
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tigere on August 18, 2021, 02:55:04 pm
Wtf
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on August 18, 2021, 03:49:21 pm
Wtf
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Maurice on August 18, 2021, 04:37:49 pm
I'm locking this thread.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on August 18, 2021, 04:59:26 pm
I'm locking this thread.
get off the forums weeb
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on August 18, 2021, 05:56:52 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
How old are u ? Like 15? 😴😴😴
Old enough not to sleep with my 8 siblings
Old enough to still dream about NW🙈🙈🙈
Did you ever have wet dream next to your siblings   :-[ :-[ :-[?
Zeyden u are so boring u make me sleepy 😴😴
s i b l i n g s
as a great friend of mine once said u totally got me😂 now ima let u with ur tears alone stay safe g
[close]
go back to the bed, ur siblings are waiting for u  :-[
sounds just like a boring baguete player 😂😂
"boring" "ribazz"  ??? rly come 92nd ts rn i'll shank you
u must love me to still be giving me attention zZzzZz
eatin my cereals rn wbu
actually just finished my food aswell - Lasagna
[close]
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDmTgdcW4AE6wUU.jpg)

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on August 18, 2021, 10:31:50 pm
Can we discuss how someone misspelt "Official" in the account name? Very cool
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on August 19, 2021, 12:48:02 am
Can we discuss how someone Voluble misspelt "Official" in the account name? Very cool

Fixed that for you

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kraz on August 19, 2021, 03:57:43 am
Spoiler
Spoiler
How old are u ? Like 15? 😴😴😴
Old enough not to sleep with my 8 siblings
Old enough to still dream about NW🙈🙈🙈
Did you ever have wet dream next to your siblings   :-[ :-[ :-[?
Zeyden u are so boring u make me sleepy 😴😴
s i b l i n g s
as a great friend of mine once said u totally got me😂 now ima let u with ur tears alone stay safe g
[close]
go back to the bed, ur siblings are waiting for u  :-[
sounds just like a boring baguete player 😂😂
"boring" "ribazz"  ??? rly come 92nd ts rn i'll shank you
u must love me to still be giving me attention zZzzZz
eatin my cereals rn wbu
actually just finished my food aswell - Lasagna

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDmTgdcW4AE6wUU.jpg)
[close]
U are fat.
wtf
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on August 19, 2021, 04:38:27 am
where is the fifa cards that was promised in the EGS Season 2 Trailer?? ???
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on August 19, 2021, 09:58:26 am
The whole convo between R1bazz and Zeyden can stop now. Keep it relevant or stfu.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on August 19, 2021, 11:46:27 am
The whole convo between R1bazz and Zeyden can stop now. Keep it relevant or stfu.
Me and Zeyden are cool dw :P
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on August 19, 2021, 11:58:13 am
The whole convo between R1bazz and Zeyden can stop now. Keep it relevant or stfu.

Silencing good chanter smh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 19, 2021, 12:12:37 pm
where is the fifa cards that was promised in the EGS Season 2 Trailer?? ???
Undecided as to who gets them at the end of the season but they are for sure happening don’t worry :) Was never a plan to have MVP Fifa cards after every tourny. Maybe next season. We will have a team of the season of some kind this season.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 19, 2021, 12:14:28 pm
Can we discuss how someone Voluble misspelt "Official" in the account name? Very cool

Fixed that for you
It was DarkTemplars account before I used it aswell! Atleast he can speak two languages unlike someone :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on August 20, 2021, 05:01:03 pm
HAHAHAHA ZEYDEN U SUCH A LEGEND
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on August 22, 2021, 09:56:17 pm
Not to sound like an sjw but... wtf is the point of having admins, when vegi sits there saying the n word 5 times in 5 messages.... Then it turns out he's a fucking admin himself.

He's not even the only one.... I've seen upward of 6 peple say the n word in the groupstage alone. Bad look on the tourny ngl....

its fucking disgusting how much racism is in NW, as hosts you should punish it otherwise it will never go away.


Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on August 22, 2021, 09:57:59 pm
Not to sound like an sjw but... wtf is the point of having admins, when vegi sits there saying the n word 5 times in 5 messages.... Then it turns out he's a fucking admin himself.

He's not even the only one.... I've seen upward of 6 peple say the n word in the groupstage alone. Bad look on the tourny ngl....

its fucking disgusting how much racism is in NW, as hosts you should punish it otherwise it will never go away.

racism is in the past
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on August 22, 2021, 10:00:11 pm
Not to sound like an sjw but... wtf is the point of having admins, when vegi sits there saying the n word 5 times in 5 messages.... Then it turns out he's a fucking admin himself.

He's not even the only one.... I've seen upward of 6 peple say the n word in the groupstage alone. Bad look on the tourny ngl....

its fucking disgusting how much racism is in NW, as hosts you should punish it otherwise it will never go away.
Didn't see Vegi's messages myself (or the other people who may have said it) but if it actually happened then it should never go unpunished, especially if you are an admin. 100% with Ryan on the principle.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 22, 2021, 10:03:23 pm
Ryan can go cry a river.
I was just going with the flow with Steinmann his trolly behavior himself, but hey he's your teammate so you won't complain about him.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on August 22, 2021, 10:06:02 pm
Ryan can go cry a river.
I was just going with the flow with Steinmann his trolly behavior himself, but hey he's your teammate so you won't complain about him.
I only named you because you are a particular problem, saying it multiple times in an abusive way (not comedic in any way, which also shouldn't be acceptable tbh)... Especielly as someone in a high up leading position in one of the bigger communities in the game.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: StockholmDE on August 22, 2021, 10:06:51 pm
Not to sound like an sjw but...
(https://i.gyazo.com/47eae2160486bad0952b87ff29cbaf2a.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 22, 2021, 10:11:31 pm
Ryan can go cry a river.
I was just going with the flow with Steinmann his trolly behavior himself, but hey he's your teammate so you won't complain about him.
I only named you because you are a particular problem, saying it multiple times in an abusive way (not comedic in any way, which also shouldn't be acceptable tbh)... Especielly as someone in a high up leading position in one of the bigger communities in the game.
Maybe you should make a video about it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on August 22, 2021, 10:16:04 pm
Vegi has been warned. He was saying offensive words which was not directed at a indvidual of colour but a generalised insult. Doesn't make it any better but he has been warned. If it happens again which it wont, then obviously further punishment will be taken. We are a small community and it can be very toxic at times, so be warned, forgive, forget and move forward.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 22, 2021, 10:17:05 pm
Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ItsAlex on August 22, 2021, 10:31:13 pm
Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.

Vegi i had expected better from you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Yoshiee on August 22, 2021, 10:32:55 pm
Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.

Vegi i had expected better from you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on August 22, 2021, 10:36:25 pm
Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.

Vegi i had expected better from you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on August 22, 2021, 10:59:31 pm
Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.

Vegi i had expected better from you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Melsyo on August 22, 2021, 11:06:42 pm
Ryan can go cry a river.
I was just going with the flow with Steinmann his trolly behavior himself, but hey he's your teammate so you won't complain about him.
Terrible excuses smhhhh + steinmann got warned by voluble in internal admin already and told he would lose his admin
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on August 22, 2021, 11:13:05 pm
Ryan can go cry a river.
I was just going with the flow with Steinmann his trolly behavior himself, but hey he's your teammate so you won't complain about him.
Terrible excuses smhhhh + steinmann got warned by voluble in internal admin already and told he would lose his admin

there are no excuses for this behavior
so be happy that you got warned and don't be rude towards people who complain about your behavior
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 22, 2021, 11:14:29 pm
Ryan can go cry a river.
I was just going with the flow with Steinmann his trolly behavior himself, but hey he's your teammate so you won't complain about him.
Terrible excuses smhhhh + steinmann got warned by voluble in internal admin already and told he would lose his admin

Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.

Melsyo you should read the whole discussion smhhhhhh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on August 22, 2021, 11:26:41 pm
Sorry to all the people I offended... I hope you forgive me Ryan.

Vegi i had expected better from you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on August 23, 2021, 12:10:57 am
Well play to Poosy, playing a 7v7 without RedFire & Higen is hard  :(
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on August 23, 2021, 12:14:05 am
nice change password voluble i think u die for corona like all poosy members UNLUCKY AMATERASU i go sleep.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 23, 2021, 12:15:01 am
nice change password voluble i think u die for corona like all poosy members UNLUCKY AMATERASU i go sleep.
It was me
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 23, 2021, 12:15:29 am
Well play to Poosy, playing a 7v7 without RedFire & Higen is hard  :(
Yeah we were missing Rikkert, Troister & Axiom. Looks like we both were 'handicapped'

But GG nevertheless
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vemon01 on August 23, 2021, 12:17:49 am
nice change password voluble i think u die for corona like all poosy members UNLUCKY AMATERASU i go sleep.
!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on August 23, 2021, 12:18:44 am
i sleep.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Eamon on August 23, 2021, 12:33:48 am
you are all insufferable
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on August 23, 2021, 12:39:58 am
EGS would sadly like to confirm that Voluble has died of corona due to Flushas wishes.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on August 23, 2021, 12:48:52 am
EGS would sadly like to confirm that Voluble has died of corona due to Flushas wishes.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: jakob. on August 23, 2021, 02:13:39 am
people are building swastika - pls stop men even tho i am german
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 23, 2021, 02:15:58 am
people are building swastika - pls stop men even tho i am german
dw Ryan will be there to prevent people from making swastika's
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on August 23, 2021, 02:51:33 am
people are building swastika - pls stop men even tho i am german
Just another example of what i was saying earlier...

people are building swastika - pls stop men even tho i am german
dw Ryan will be there to prevent people from making swastika's

Your responses say it all.... No need for me to even comment
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Melsyo on August 23, 2021, 02:21:45 pm
people are building swastika - pls stop men even tho i am german
Just another example of what i was saying earlier...

people are building swastika - pls stop men even tho i am german
dw Ryan will be there to prevent people from making swastika's

Your responses say it all.... No need for me to even comment
vegi's apology did indeed seem sincere, i think the warning worked :D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on August 23, 2021, 02:28:48 pm
some people just don't know a window when they see one.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 23, 2021, 02:30:46 pm
some people just don't know a window when they see one.
It was such a lovely window Heri
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: jakob. on August 23, 2021, 02:38:05 pm
some people just don't know a window when they see one.
fuck my bad
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on August 23, 2021, 03:40:49 pm
EGS would sadly like to confirm that Voluble has died of corona due to Flushas wishes.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on August 23, 2021, 04:15:13 pm
you have to be either an asshole or on the level of a 12 year old if you think its funny to be racist
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 23, 2021, 04:18:54 pm
you have to be either an asshole or on the level of a 12 year old if you think its funny to be racist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIFXe-usVO8
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on August 24, 2021, 03:41:18 pm
Remember, there is a difference between being an actual racist and making musket pictures or saying meaningless words
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 24, 2021, 03:47:55 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on August 24, 2021, 03:50:20 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

Yeah we all know the 16 year old Europeans are using it that way
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 24, 2021, 03:50:59 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

Yeah we all know the 16 year old Europeans are using it that way
But I'm 21? So ur wrong
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 24, 2021, 03:51:11 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

Yeah we all know the 16 year old Europeans are using it that way
Who are the 16 year olds you are referring to?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: nIvan on August 24, 2021, 03:55:26 pm
guys please stop
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on August 24, 2021, 04:00:51 pm
Vegi decided to donate to BLM instead of EGS2, so in my eyes he’s a hero
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on August 24, 2021, 04:02:53 pm
if i cant make a swastika in peace then im quitting
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on August 24, 2021, 04:03:53 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

we had this argument in the german scene already, pls not here aswell
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on August 24, 2021, 04:06:59 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

we had this argument in the german scene already, pls not here aswell

It has also commonly been used in Europe since the 1930's whats your point hertz?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on August 24, 2021, 04:07:17 pm
My grandad fought against the Germans so Id have the liberty to make swastikas on warband. You will not take this away from me!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nightwing on August 24, 2021, 04:09:18 pm
Remember, there is a difference between being an actual racist and making musket pictures or saying meaningless words

They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

Good comedy bois, keep it up. Made me smile for 3 sec, ty

Edit: But Oneil overtakes you both, as per useal
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 24, 2021, 04:10:09 pm
They could be referring to the old meaning on a swastika.

'The swastika continues to be used as a symbol of good luck and prosperity in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain countries such as Nepal, India, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, China and Japan. It is also commonly used in Hindu marriage ceremonies.'

we had this argument in the german scene already, pls not here aswell

It has also commonly been used in Europe since the 1930's whats your point hertz?
My point is, depending on the angle you choose to look at it, depends on how you interpret it. On an angle, Nazi sign, straight on good luck and prosperity.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on August 24, 2021, 04:10:09 pm
friendly reminder FSE forums is hosted in Germany as I found out 6 years ago  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on August 24, 2021, 04:12:38 pm
In all seriousness it’s funny how the Germans try and take a morale high ground. Like stfu we will joke about ur history all we want
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on August 24, 2021, 04:14:02 pm
this discussion is so cringe
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nightwing on August 24, 2021, 04:26:27 pm
In all seriousness it’s funny how the Germans try and take a morale high ground. Like stfu we will joke about ur history all we want
Don't really see the jokes here about germany, more about millions of people who died. But eyyy, that's funny isn't it, just like the IRA and the people who died for it right
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on August 24, 2021, 04:33:41 pm
Autobahn
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on August 24, 2021, 04:35:26 pm
In all seriousness it%u2019s funny how the Germans try and take a morale high ground. Like stfu we will joke about ur history all we want
Don't really see the jokes here about germany, more about millions of people who died. But eyyy, that's funny isn't it, just like the IRA and the people who died for it right
Caused by ur country?!?!?

And the IRA is funny thats why people joke about it in the UK. I know ur German so u have the sense of humor of plywood but just live and let others live mr language police
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nightwing on August 24, 2021, 04:40:17 pm
In all seriousness it’s funny how the Germans try and take a morale high ground. Like stfu we will joke about ur history all we want
Don't really see the jokes here about germany, more about millions of people who died. But eyyy, that's funny isn't it, just like the IRA and the people who died for it right
Caused by ur country?!?!?
Oh yeah, sorry that I wasn't there 80 years ago to save it. Let's both travel back in time so you can fix the IRA problem and I can lead germany out of the mess after WW1

If you really want just to live and let others Oneil, why do you not start with it?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on August 24, 2021, 04:42:09 pm
In all seriousness it%u2019s funny how the Germans try and take a morale high ground. Like stfu we will joke about ur history all we want
Don't really see the jokes here about germany, more about millions of people who died. But eyyy, that's funny isn't it, just like the IRA and the people who died for it right
Caused by ur country?!?!?

And the IRA is funny thats why people joke about it in the UK. I know ur German so u have the sense of humor of plywood but just live and let others live mr language police

Yikes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on August 24, 2021, 04:46:36 pm
I think Oneil has been hit with too many eggs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ONeil_ on August 24, 2021, 04:47:48 pm
In all seriousness it%u2019s funny how the Germans try and take a morale high ground. Like stfu we will joke about ur history all we want
Don't really see the jokes here about germany, more about millions of people who died. But eyyy, that's funny isn't it, just like the IRA and the people who died for it right
Caused by ur country?!?!?

And the IRA is funny thats why people joke about it in the UK. I know ur German so u have the sense of humor of plywood but just live and let others live mr language police

Yikes
What have I said that’s wrong. Go on educate me theologist
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on August 24, 2021, 04:50:30 pm
Well I thought the organisers did a great job again… right guys? Guys?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on August 24, 2021, 04:55:16 pm
What would the forums be without ONeill?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on August 24, 2021, 05:08:02 pm
If i cant play tic tac toe with my friends using muskets then i boycott this tournament!!!! waaaaaaaa!!!!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on August 24, 2021, 05:32:35 pm
this discussion is so cringe
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nightwing on August 24, 2021, 05:34:11 pm

imagine thinking the IRA were the problem and not the British

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cringe
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I didn't really said that it was their "problem", was more about people losing their live because of it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on August 24, 2021, 05:39:01 pm
Well I thought the organisers did a great job again… right guys? Guys?
Thank you Alf your the first person to say that xoxox
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on August 24, 2021, 06:16:33 pm
Well I thought the organisers did a great job again… right guys? Guys?
Thank you Alf your the first person to say that xoxox
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kraz on August 24, 2021, 06:25:00 pm
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/01/4a/a5014a0326b033159dc00d3bb36570f1.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on August 24, 2021, 07:26:23 pm
Stop censorship in arts!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on August 24, 2021, 09:02:55 pm
Well I thought the organisers did a great job again… right guys? Guys?
Thanks Alf i think allso i did quite a good job
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 01, 2021, 08:12:23 pm
Taking suggestions for Interviews, respond here with SERIOUS suggestions. Anyone who gives troll suggestions loses 50% of the teams points on the standings :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on September 01, 2021, 08:28:06 pm
Gerher, Wolpi, Igel
Coco, Quenouille
Ruler, Blitzkrieg
Fietta, Maskman
Camm15elbe, Sennii
KOBZIK, Desant
Melsyo, Mauri

Plenty of people that are worthy candidates, some of them like Ivan suggested being very quiet on the forums (compared to most) but still material for an excellent interview.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on September 01, 2021, 08:45:54 pm
me myself and I
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on September 01, 2021, 08:51:59 pm
Gerher, Wolpi, Igel
Coco, Quenouille
Ruler, Blitzkrieg
Fietta, Maskman
Camm15elbe, Sennii
KOBZIK, Desant
Melsyo, Mauri

Plenty of people that are worthy candidates, some of them like Ivan suggested being very quiet on the forums (compared to most) but still material for an excellent interview.

Saving myself for the RGL Interviews and Previews  ;)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on September 01, 2021, 08:56:34 pm
Gerher, Wolpi, Igel
Coco, Quenouille
Ruler, Blitzkrieg
Fietta, Maskman
Camm15elbe, Sennii
KOBZIK, Desant
Melsyo, Mauri

Plenty of people that are worthy candidates, some of them like Ivan suggested being very quiet on the forums (compared to most) but still material for an excellent interview.

ur missing the most precious german captain smh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on September 01, 2021, 09:29:48 pm
Vegi. *snip*
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on September 01, 2021, 10:07:32 pm
Gerher, Wolpi, Igel
Coco, Quenouille
Ruler, Blitzkrieg
Fietta, Maskman
Camm15elbe, Sennii
KOBZIK, Desant
Melsyo, Mauri

Plenty of people that are worthy candidates, some of them like Ivan suggested being very quiet on the forums (compared to most) but still material for an excellent interview.

ur missing the most precious german captain smh

ty, very nice for suggesting me  :-*

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tigere on September 02, 2021, 09:23:11 am
Gerher, Wolpi, Igel
Coco, Quenouille
Ruler, Blitzkrieg
Fietta, Maskman
Camm15elbe, Sennii
KOBZIK, Desant
Melsyo, Mauri

Plenty of people that are worthy candidates, some of them like Ivan suggested being very quiet on the forums (compared to most) but still material for an excellent interview.

ur missing the most precious german captain smh

ty, very nice for suggesting me  :-*
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on September 02, 2021, 12:22:41 pm
Interview Tig pls
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on September 02, 2021, 01:12:51 pm
Interview Tig pls
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tigere on September 02, 2021, 01:41:49 pm
Interview Tig pls
I feel honoured mes amis
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on September 02, 2021, 01:55:45 pm
Interview Tig pls
I feel honoured mes amis
Please explain your touchpad magic to us almighty tig
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on September 02, 2021, 02:17:56 pm
Interview Tig pls
ze goat
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kraz on September 02, 2021, 02:35:27 pm
Interview Tig pls
I feel honoured mes amis
tg un peu tig
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tigere on September 02, 2021, 02:43:14 pm
Interview Tig pls
I feel honoured mes amis
Please explain your touchpad magic to us almighty tig
The key to master it is to not play
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on September 02, 2021, 02:44:01 pm
Interview poberta pls
ze goat
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on September 02, 2021, 02:49:32 pm
Vegi. *snip*
Can't believe I got snipped over the T word >:(
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on September 02, 2021, 03:43:26 pm
Vegi. *snip*
Can't believe I got snipped over the T word >:(
Get fucked kid
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on September 02, 2021, 09:05:36 pm
Vegi an upcoming talented player
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on September 02, 2021, 10:49:22 pm
Steinmann no :'(
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on September 02, 2021, 10:51:39 pm
Steinmann no :'(
wdym it’s literally said in the review of the previous tournament?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 04, 2021, 08:52:53 pm
Is Amaterasu the best team of all time (no joke)?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on September 04, 2021, 09:17:14 pm
Is Amaterasu the best team of all time (no joke)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2rpY5IzPMs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 04, 2021, 10:04:15 pm
Is Amaterasu the best team of all time (no joke)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2rpY5IzPMs
I love this so much thank you steinman for changing my life
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on September 04, 2021, 10:13:06 pm
Is Amaterasu the best team of all time (no joke)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2rpY5IzPMs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on September 06, 2021, 10:33:53 am
This was already brought up a few weeks ago and I know this is the system that everyone agreed upon signing up but if it's not possible to change it for this season, atleast consider the following issue for next season:

Spoiler
EGS is boring

When is massive nw shuffle
EGS is probably one of the most organised tournament series out their that has ever existed  :)
cant disagree with it cause I’m still part of it but can’t wait for season three with almost all these teams disbanding and shuffling rosters
The only massive issue in my opinion is let's say Amaterasu win all future tournaments then Poosy or even PB win the 'final' one then all of Amaterasu's 'work' goes unrewarded over the entire season. Seems pretty silly to me.
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If you want to make a tournament series like the EGS (which is 100% the way to go) then you shouldn't have the possibility for one team to literally throw two months of hard work and performance into the bin by peaking in one tournament. Sure, I understand what sort of reasoning went into this and yeah, it's undoubtedly better for the 'show' that everything remains opens till the very last tournament but it feels neither right nor fair.

Say Amaretasu wins at least one more tournament before the EGS Season 2 finals, they will have won 4 out of the 6 editions of the second season. I can't guarantee you that even if they were to not win the 7th edition, they would still be considered as the "best" team of this EGS by a large portion of the community and thus, having a final winner that's doesn't represent the power charts of your event would go completely against the very ideas that lead to the creation of such a project.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 06, 2021, 10:43:11 am
I'm on the losing side at the moment and even I agree it's stupid. It dawned on me more when someone after the tournament yesterday said don't worry guys only one of them matters anyway and we'll be in that.

Also as a point of discussion logically what do you think the final tournament format should be. To me it should be 6v6 as it's the middle format of the 3 we have been doing and provides a more accurate reflection of the whole team than just a 5v5 where almost half the roster will not be playing the majority of the tournament. I could see an argument for 7v7 for the same reason but since 6v6 is the middle format I think it makes the most sense. To me 5v5 offers the 'weaker' teams more of a chance to get into the tournament which I could see people of course liking but the final tournament shouldn't be made to give the 'weaker' teams a better chance tbh.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on September 06, 2021, 10:46:44 am
6v6 makes sense for the aforementioned reasons. One option would also be to let the playoffs team decide, although putting such discussion to the public debate is not always the way to go about it as not every captain/team can be entrusted with logical and fair reasoning. I could totally see a world in which certain top teams try to get a format that suits them better by pushing other captains to vote for it. Worth taking those potential issues it into consideration at the very least.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 06, 2021, 11:12:14 am
I would be worried about a public vote since realistically there are two 'stronger' teams shown so far in EGS, I'd imagine all teams other than those 2 would want to give themselves the best chance which would be 5v5 realistically.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on September 06, 2021, 11:39:27 am
I think we can discuss in the admin team once season 2 ends, if we are going to do a play offs for season 3. Calls things silly all you want, you was directly involved with planning for season 2 and you never raised concerns on how “silly” you think playoffs idea was. We will finish the season with it as that’s what we planned and based around. I’m all for changing to no play offs as I do agree it can be seen as unrewarding but in my eyes technically it is one big qualification for the play off to get the best seeding to have the best chance of winning overall. Yes it would be a bit unfair logically. Remember this idea was scrapped up out of nowhere and you know I put as much thought into little details as possible so mistakes and improvements can happen and I ain’t stubborn to not change things up, so yeah we will have discussions on formatting for season 3 within the admin team. In regards to the final format I will be contacting the 8 teams involved to see what format they wish to play, that is fair and democratic and you should not worry about the opinions of your peers Herishey as they are some of the most experienced and reliable people in NW.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 06, 2021, 11:57:32 am
Debateable. In terms of my 'direct' involvement I made a few minor suggestions whilst not being part of the admin team sure, hardly thought through the idea in depth since I had no real involvement. That being said this is a place to discuss things and my view on it is that it's silly you don't need to be personally offended by that, just doing what it says in the title.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on September 06, 2021, 12:10:12 pm
Herishey youre basically already saying why its better to have that playoff tournament lol

The initial idea was the way CSGO Majors work with the RMR events, if you feel its useless to play more just dont attend anymore until the playoff tournament? And I cant see the reason to start crying about something after you signed up for it knowing how it works AND already having played some tournaments

If youre the best team you wont have a problem winning the playoffs aswell and all the other teams still have something to play for

The way you want it I can just stop coming to tournaments at this point since its over anyways

So since its better for literally any team except 1 or 2 i dont understand why you want to change it xdd
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on September 06, 2021, 12:25:13 pm
Debateable. In terms of my 'direct' involvement I made a few minor suggestions whilst not being part of the admin team sure, hardly thought through the idea in depth since I had no real involvement. That being said this is a place to discuss things and my view on it is that it's silly you don't need to be personally offended by that, just doing what it says in the title.
Yes you only made a few minor suggestions when you had the ability to say whatever you wanted and to speak you kind on “silly” ideas we had! You can have your opinion and as I said, we will discuss after this season with the admins and maybe team leaders if we change anything for next season, if it’s disliked that much we will obviously change.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on September 06, 2021, 12:30:33 pm
as Voluble said, we will keep the playoff for this season

and saying amaterasus performance over the seaosn, has no impact, is not true. Amaterasu will, most likely, get a bye till the finals, so worst the can achieve is a 2nd place.

Idea came from other esports titles like CS:GO, or Rocket League. Or even in the real sports, like in tennis, you have a season ending championship, with the best players playing.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on September 06, 2021, 12:32:48 pm
Being in contradiction with something doesn't mean crying or whining you have to stop with these insinuations it just ruins all communication from the start, all I see is people trying to do what's best for the community as Herishey says he's in the """losing""" position (even if it's a bit of an exaggeration, we're only a few points apart) and yet he's still bringing up this topic when it's not supposed to benefit him, let's have a healthy and mature discussion on how to improve the EGS without FSE warriors and their usual sophism.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on September 06, 2021, 12:41:59 pm
Being in contradiction with something doesn't mean crying or whining you have to stop with these insinuations it just ruins all communication from the start, all I see is people trying to do what's best for the community as Herishey says he's in the """losing""" position (even if it's a bit of an exaggeration, we're only a few points apart) and yet he's still bringing up this topic when it's not supposed to benefit him, let's have a healthy and mature discussion on how to improve the EGS without FSE warriors and their usual sophism.
stfu ur opinion is irrelevant
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 06, 2021, 12:44:04 pm
Herishey youre basically already saying why its better to have that playoff tournament lol

The initial idea was the way CSGO Majors work with the RMR events, if you feel its useless to play more just dont attend anymore until the playoff tournament? And I cant see the reason to start crying about something after you signed up for it knowing how it works AND already having played some tournaments

If youre the best team you wont have a problem winning the playoffs aswell and all the other teams still have something to play for

The way you want it I can just stop coming to tournaments at this point since its over anyways

So since its better for literally any team except 1 or 2 i dont understand why you want to change it xdd
You all keep saying 'crying', bunch of snowflakes don't seem to understand how a constructive discussion works. I'm not crying I'm simply saying why I think the playoff system is flawed, I understand it in a league but this is essentially a group of tournaments that then comes down to the exact same 'tournament' system again just at the end of the season which makes no sense. With a proper league I can understand a playoff as one match is played every week or so then you have a full on playoff at the end. Where as with this we have a full tournament (group stage + essentially a playoff) every 2 weeks. So finishing up with the exact same thing and saying that's the be all and end all just seems outlandish.

I never mentioned 'IT SHOULD BE CHANGED RIGHT AWAY RIGHT NOW' or 'THIS SEASON' did I. I am simply posting my opinion on why it should be changed, I didn't say when.

as Voluble said, we will keep the playoff for this season

and saying amaterasus performance over the seaosn, has no impact, is not true. Amaterasu will, most likely, get a bye till the finals, so worst the can achieve is a 2nd place.

Idea came from other esports titles like CS:GO, or Rocket League. Or even in the real sports, like in tennis, you have a season ending championship, with the best players playing.

I understand why it was chosen but again that is based off a series of matches not a series of tournaments like EGS are doing (see my points above). Again to reiterate I am not calling EGS silly I'm simply stating that a playoff in this particular format is.

8 teams out of 20 is also a very large playoff I have to say.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on September 06, 2021, 01:52:08 pm
Herishey youre basically already saying why its better to have that playoff tournament lol

The initial idea was the way CSGO Majors work with the RMR events, if you feel its useless to play more just dont attend anymore until the playoff tournament? And I cant see the reason to start crying about something after you signed up for it knowing how it works AND already having played some tournaments

If youre the best team you wont have a problem winning the playoffs aswell and all the other teams still have something to play for

The way you want it I can just stop coming to tournaments at this point since its over anyways

So since its better for literally any team except 1 or 2 i dont understand why you want to change it xdd
You all keep saying 'crying', bunch of snowflakes don't seem to understand how a constructive discussion works. I'm not crying I'm simply saying why I think the playoff system is flawed, I understand it in a league but this is essentially a group of tournaments that then comes down to the exact same 'tournament' system again just at the end of the season which makes no sense. With a proper league I can understand a playoff as one match is played every week or so then you have a full on playoff at the end. Where as with this we have a full tournament (group stage + essentially a playoff) every 2 weeks. So finishing up with the exact same thing and saying that's the be all and end all just seems outlandish.

I never mentioned 'IT SHOULD BE CHANGED RIGHT AWAY RIGHT NOW' or 'THIS SEASON' did I. I am simply posting my opinion on why it should be changed, I didn't say when.

as Voluble said, we will keep the playoff for this season

and saying amaterasus performance over the seaosn, has no impact, is not true. Amaterasu will, most likely, get a bye till the finals, so worst the can achieve is a 2nd place.

Idea came from other esports titles like CS:GO, or Rocket League. Or even in the real sports, like in tennis, you have a season ending championship, with the best players playing.

I understand why it was chosen but again that is based off a series of matches not a series of tournaments like EGS are doing (see my points above). Again to reiterate I am not calling EGS silly I'm simply stating that a playoff in this particular format is.

8 teams out of 20 is also a very large playoff I have to say.
We took our own twist on it which is perfectly fine and not flawed. Regardless of it being a league of matches or tournaments it doesn’t change it to be flawed or not. We will finish the season then have that discussion. The principle of the issue raised I.E. performing well all season to then lose at the final hurdle being “unfair” is wrong and completely relatable to these other games you refer to, you have to be the best team and perform to your best to win. As Dark said, best 2 teams basically get a bypass to the final/semis anyways so it’s hard to see a upset or be super unfair. I think the play off system this season may look bad purely on the basis there is only two teams in each final with similar outcomes making the playoffs look irrelevant. If the season was more balanced and close, I’m sure people wouldn’t have a issue with the play off idea at all.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 06, 2021, 02:35:44 pm
Yeah we already discussed this on Steam now and I am less against it now, I don't think I'll ever be fully for playoffs but this season the way it turned out has just made it all look a lot worse. :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 06, 2021, 03:07:47 pm
Yeah we already discussed this on Steam now and I am less against it now, I don't think I'll ever be fully for playoffs but this season the way it turned out has just made it all look a lot worse. :)
agreed it’s been one sided so it looks pointless but yeah good points made nonetheless. If more issues are raised with playoffs we will discuss before finalising next season to make changes, anyone feel free to comment something productive for changes if you wish. Maybe mels/maskman you have a suggestion to change tiebreakers?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on September 06, 2021, 05:49:20 pm
if we want to have a proper play offs/major tournament at the end of this, I suggest using the double-elim format then
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on September 06, 2021, 06:05:12 pm
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on September 06, 2021, 06:06:13 pm
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.

Yeah good idea
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on September 06, 2021, 06:10:15 pm
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.

Yeah good idea
^^^

althoguh 7v7 might be easier for most teams
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 06, 2021, 06:18:54 pm
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.

Yeah good idea
Wow no one woulda thought of that right Fietta?

EDIT: I too like this idea as it shows the teams full depth and it's less predictable since it hasn't been done this series.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on September 06, 2021, 10:49:44 pm
Yeah we already discussed this on Steam now and I am less against it now, I don't think I'll ever be fully for playoffs but this season the way it turned out has just made it all look a lot worse. :)
agreed it’s been one sided so it looks pointless but yeah good points made nonetheless. If more issues are raised with playoffs we will discuss before finalising next season to make changes, anyone feel free to comment something productive for changes if you wish. Maybe mels/maskman you have a suggestion to change tiebreakers?

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(https://i.gyazo.com/3fcda3b9f2460f3721a03415d9508f56.png)
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Do it based on wins, with the first Tie Break being points then matches played as it should be. Virgins with less points should never be above NPP especially as NPP beat them 5-2 in the groups.

This points difference argument seems like a poor excuse for a mishandling and ill preparation for the set up of the challonge.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on September 07, 2021, 12:16:47 am
Yeah we already discussed this on Steam now and I am less against it now, I don't think I'll ever be fully for playoffs but this season the way it turned out has just made it all look a lot worse. :)
agreed it’s been one sided so it looks pointless but yeah good points made nonetheless. If more issues are raised with playoffs we will discuss before finalising next season to make changes, anyone feel free to comment something productive for changes if you wish. Maybe mels/maskman you have a suggestion to change tiebreakers?

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/3fcda3b9f2460f3721a03415d9508f56.png)
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Do it based on wins, with the first Tie Break being points then matches played as it should be. Virgins with less points should never be above NPP especially as NPP beat them 5-2 in the groups.

This points difference argument seems like a poor excuse for a mishandling and ill preparation for the set up of the challonge.
If you must know, we didn’t set up this specific challonge wrong, all season long we have used these tiebreakers and they aint exactly a issue as they are BUT we did say some months ago we was ok for change when MarxeiL suggested it. Sorry for providing such ill prepared tournaments and giving poor excuses. Might aswell stop whilst I’m ahead aye!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on September 07, 2021, 09:26:12 am
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.
Not sure if you’re aware of the hassle it was to make teams bring 7. Let alone 8. Imo 6v6 would be best. Gets more of the teams playing their members, and also will be interesting to see which teams excel with lower numbers.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Skittykiller on September 07, 2021, 09:33:53 am
We should just let the bottom one win. So RF finally wins something then xD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 07, 2021, 09:54:51 am
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.
Not sure if you’re aware of the hassle it was to make teams bring 7. Let alone 8. Imo 6v6 would be best. Gets more of the teams playing their members, and also will be interesting to see which teams excel with lower numbers.
I'd imagine for the final tournament/play off most teams (it's only 8 of them anyway) could get 8.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on September 07, 2021, 09:55:52 am
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.
Not sure if you’re aware of the hassle it was to make teams bring 7. Let alone 8. Imo 6v6 would be best. Gets more of the teams playing their members, and also will be interesting to see which teams excel with lower numbers.
I'd imagine for the final tournament/play off most teams (it's only 8 of them anyway) could get 8.
^^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on September 07, 2021, 11:22:19 am
what about an 8v8 format for the play-offs, would be quite interesting to have almost every person from the roster playing.
Not sure if you’re aware of the hassle it was to make teams bring 7. Let alone 8. Imo 6v6 would be best. Gets more of the teams playing their members, and also will be interesting to see which teams excel with lower numbers.
I'd imagine for the final tournament/play off most teams (it's only 8 of them anyway) could get 8.
^^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on September 07, 2021, 09:23:35 pm
It wont be 8v8. it will be 5v5 or 6v6. Nice idea but not big enough roster depth or activity and I won't risk the integerity of a final by needing to have emergency subs cus people cant bring 8 people all tournament long.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 09, 2021, 06:56:44 pm
Whilst we have time to think and implement different ideas for Season 3, I'm willing right now to listen to any suggestions and try to implement them, what dont you enjoy about this season so far etc?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 09, 2021, 07:01:33 pm
 With Season 3 around the corner in late october/early novemeber, we are formulating plans now and if you have ANY suggestion at all to implement, now is the time to speak up. From as little to tiebreakers to as big as stuff like statistics. Say anything we need to work on OR to implement to make it even better.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on September 09, 2021, 07:10:29 pm
The groups could be done differently? We never faced Virgins Enigma Proud Boys and many other teams during the groupstage (therefore we don`t face them in further rounds except for the play-off round 2). Kinda boring to play against same opponents every tournament
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on September 09, 2021, 07:16:47 pm
The groups could be done differently? We never faced Virgins Enigma Proud Boys and many other teams during the groupstage (therefore we don`t face them in further rounds except for the play-off round 2). Kinda boring to play against same opponents every tournament
It'd take a bit more effort to keep track but with the amount of tournaments in a season every team should be able to play every team in the groups (apart from those in the same tier as them during seeding potentially) easily throughout.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 09, 2021, 07:21:21 pm
The groups could be done differently? We never faced Virgins Enigma Proud Boys and many other teams during the groupstage (therefore we don`t face them in further rounds except for the play-off round 2). Kinda boring to play against same opponents every tournament
Could seed the Top 4 into specific groups only, then everybody else is tiered into a few different tiers,  such as 4 teams in tier 2 (5-8th in standings) 4 in tier 3(9th-12th)  etc etc  Then instead of it being preset which team plays which according to the specific team standing seeding, we will randomly assign those teams in those tier groups, into random groups? Is that fine?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on September 09, 2021, 10:08:42 pm
The groups could be done differently? We never faced Virgins Enigma Proud Boys and many other teams during the groupstage (therefore we don`t face them in further rounds except for the play-off round 2). Kinda boring to play against same opponents every tournament
Could seed the Top 4 into specific groups only, then everybody else is tiered into a few different tiers,  such as 4 teams in tier 2 (5-8th in standings) 4 in tier 3(9th-12th)  etc etc  Then instead of it being preset which team plays which according to the specific team standing seeding, we will randomly assign those teams in those tier groups, into random groups? Is that fine?
Pretty much  ;D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Skittykiller on September 09, 2021, 11:56:07 pm
I mean RF fought Virgins like 3 times in a row now. And enigma twice.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on September 10, 2021, 12:03:27 am
I get slapped too much that I forget my opponents
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on September 11, 2021, 06:22:49 pm
If everybody can, please fill this in and share it with everyone and anyone you can, so we can get community wide feedback. https://forms.gle/7RRi5P2zvenhKsNm9  If there is not a question here which you would like to ask or a suggestion etc, feel free to comment it on this thread.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on October 06, 2021, 03:31:08 pm
Answer guys: https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3929877x594941A3-125 Someone wanted me to suggest it, so I am.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 06, 2021, 06:12:12 pm
Anyone who votes Saturday I'd just like you to know you're a loser (unless you work Sundays then I'll allow it).
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on October 06, 2021, 06:15:23 pm
Anyone who votes Saturday I'd just like you to know you're a loser (unless you work Sundays then I'll allow it).
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on October 06, 2021, 07:54:58 pm
Anyone who votes Saturday I'd just like you to know you're a loser (unless you work Sundays then I'll allow it).
i work fridays
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on October 06, 2021, 09:54:31 pm
Anyone who votes Saturday I'd just like you to know you're a loser (unless you work Sundays then I'll allow it).
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on October 06, 2021, 09:57:53 pm
im a loser
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Shadey on October 07, 2021, 03:27:09 pm
Answer guys: https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3929877x594941A3-125 Someone wanted me to suggest it, so I am.
Don’t be shy, name and shame them.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on October 07, 2021, 03:29:38 pm
Coca Oyala
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on October 07, 2021, 04:08:23 pm
Saturday > Sunday
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on October 07, 2021, 07:50:49 pm
Saturday < Sunday

agreed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on October 07, 2021, 09:45:45 pm
Saturday < Sunday

agreed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fralla8 on October 08, 2021, 02:44:31 pm
Saturday < Sunday

agreed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 08, 2021, 03:29:29 pm
Saturday < Sunday

agreed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 13, 2021, 01:16:49 pm
So when are official EGS player rankings gonna be a thing
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Moi~ on October 25, 2021, 03:08:29 am
Am I allowed to speak on behalf of this?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on October 25, 2021, 07:59:51 am
Saturday < Sunday

agreed

saturday so rikimaru can play #freeriki
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on October 25, 2021, 09:44:49 am
Saturday < Sunday

agreed

saturday so rikimaru can play #freeriki
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on October 25, 2021, 09:52:25 am
Please don't make the tourneys on Saturdays...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on October 25, 2021, 10:38:52 am
Please don't make the tourneys on Saturdays...

saturday is the only possible day to play tourneys like this, cause unlike sundays, saturdays are not the days where people go out with friends and do stuff 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 25, 2021, 11:00:40 am
Why not Sunday but like an hour earlier, who cares about a practice regimental
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on October 25, 2021, 11:01:52 am
Sunday are painful some people (me) cant stay up for that long due to work il rather have the tourney start earlier, or move it to a completly new day like Saturday
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on October 25, 2021, 11:02:28 am
Sunday are painful some people (me) cant stay up for that long due to work il rather have the tourney start earlier, or move it to a completly new day like Saturday
cronge
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 25, 2021, 11:32:39 am
Why not Sunday but like an hour earlier, who cares about a practice regimental
Originally tournaments were Wednesdays but Sundays ended up being better for more people over time. When we first moved them to Sundays they did start at 7pm but regiments started to complain with more stuff like NLC, NWL, RGL, etc coming up.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on October 25, 2021, 12:39:29 pm
Sunday are painful some people (me) cant stay up for that long due to work il rather have the tourney start earlier, or move it to a completly new day like Saturday
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on October 25, 2021, 12:48:03 pm
Sunday are painful some people (me) cant stay up for that long due to work il rather have the tourney start earlier, or move it to a completly new day like Saturday
I think the same applies to people who go to school and it's even worse depending on your timezone
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on October 25, 2021, 02:14:17 pm
Sunday are painful some people (me) cant stay up for that long due to work il rather have the tourney start earlier, or move it to a completly new day like Saturday
In bed for half 9 because I contribute to society
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on October 25, 2021, 02:14:48 pm
No fucking chance Saturday tourny would work better... People are out Friday Saturday...

If you can't go tournies on a Sunday cuz of work Monday then you must be getting up at like 5am or something otherwise you finish the tourny and can easily get plenty of sleep...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 25, 2021, 02:23:14 pm
No fucking chance Saturday tourny would work better... People are out Friday Saturday...

If you can't go tournies on a Sunday cuz of work Monday then you must be getting up at like 5am or something otherwise you finish the tourny and can easily get plenty of sleep...
Tourneys only finish (late) for a very small amount of people that actually make it to the semi-finals. For most people they are done between 9pm-9:45pm (+2 hours for some countries means it is normally done by 11:45pm at the latest). For those in the final sure it can end a bit later than that. In some cases that would be 10-11pm UK meaning 12pm-1am for the +2 countries. So if you have you get up from 7 or before I can understand if you are a player who actually makes it that far struggling a bit. But it's once every 2 weeks, hardly going to ruin your sleep schedule (and even then again this late time only affects a small amount of players that actually make it reasonably far).
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 25, 2021, 02:33:35 pm
No fucking chance Saturday tourny would work better... People are out Friday Saturday...

If you can't go tournies on a Sunday cuz of work Monday then you must be getting up at like 5am or something otherwise you finish the tourny and can easily get plenty of sleep...
Tourneys only finish (late) for a very small amount of people that actually make it to the semi-finals. For most people they are done between 9pm-9:45pm (+2 hours for some countries means it is normally done by 11:45pm at the latest). For those in the final sure it can end a bit later than that. In some cases that would be 10-11pm UK meaning 12pm-1am for the +2 countries. So if you have you get up from 7 or before I can understand if you are a player who actually makes it that far struggling a bit. But it's once every 2 weeks, hardly going to ruin your sleep schedule (and even then again this late time only affects a small amount of players that actually make it reasonably far).

True, just have an earlier night the next night, bingo.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on October 25, 2021, 04:42:26 pm
Cheers crying rn
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 25, 2021, 05:17:42 pm
No fucking chance Saturday tourny would work better... People are out Friday Saturday...

If you can't go tournies on a Sunday cuz of work Monday then you must be getting up at like 5am or something otherwise you finish the tourny and can easily get plenty of sleep...
Maybe if your in U.K. or france but for counties that are further east the tournaments can start at almost 10-11pm and finish past midnight for them, especially since we are now in GMT instead of BST.

I do agree Sunday's is probably better for more people since, for the reasons stated above, people go out late Saturday because there is no work Sunday. But there is still a majority of people that stay up very late to play tournaments due to time zones.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on October 25, 2021, 05:21:37 pm
No fucking chance Saturday tourny would work better... People are out Friday Saturday...

If you can't go tournies on a Sunday cuz of work Monday then you must be getting up at like 5am or something otherwise you finish the tourny and can easily get plenty of sleep...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on October 25, 2021, 05:26:03 pm
Start 1 hour earlier, who tf cares about regimental stuff in 2021
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on October 25, 2021, 05:44:27 pm
Start 1 hour earlier, who tf cares about regimental stuff in 2021
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kong on October 25, 2021, 05:44:53 pm
Start 1 hour earlier, who tf cares about regimental stuff in 2021
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on October 25, 2021, 05:46:39 pm
Start 1 hour earlier, who tf cares about regimental stuff in 2021
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on October 25, 2021, 05:57:03 pm
this game started with regiments and itll die with regiments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on October 25, 2021, 05:57:34 pm
this game started with regiments and itll die with regiments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 25, 2021, 07:01:01 pm
Regimental events at 7 in the week, tournaments at 7 on sundays, simple
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Barro112 on October 25, 2021, 07:09:40 pm
this game started with regiments and itll die with regiments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Louisss on October 25, 2021, 07:23:47 pm
this game started with regiments and itll die with tribes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 25, 2021, 07:28:13 pm
Regimental events at 7 in the week, tournaments at 7 on sundays, simple
Regiments do Sundays for the same reason most want to do tournaments on Sunday so it's not that simple.

Tournaments are too frequent now to take priority so either one side has to take a hit that they won't want to (and it simply won't happen) or people just have to get on with it tbh. There isn't a simple solution to this problem or it'd have been done by now.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on October 25, 2021, 08:28:23 pm
Smh typical french and English people don’t think about others  >:(
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on October 25, 2021, 08:38:56 pm
Smh typical french and English people don’t think about others  >:(

isnt sweden literally in the same timezone as france ?????????????
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IR_Nr59_Lamastos on October 25, 2021, 08:56:22 pm
this game started with regiments and itll die with regiments

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 25, 2021, 08:57:39 pm
this game started with regiments and itll die with regiments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on October 25, 2021, 09:05:02 pm
Smh typical french and English people don’t think about others  >:(

isnt sweden literally in the same timezone as france ?????????????
I know many things but I do not know this
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: StockholmDE on October 25, 2021, 10:23:26 pm
I think people heavily underestimate the importance of Regiments in 2021. Still I don't see why Regiments and Tournament hosts cant work together? If both are happy to both get privileges and let go of some it could be great. I don't think it's that big of a deal for Regiments to not have a (competitive) Sunday event once a month. If tournaments can start earlier then that's brilliant, just coordinate it. On the other hand, why not make sure after important matches in EIC or RGL, no GF team tournament is happening. The most painful example probably was my EGS tournament starting super late due to EIC semi between 92nd and 45thN taking ~2 hours. That's again bad for both sides and could be easily fixed.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 25, 2021, 10:40:24 pm
Ofc you're the retard that takes this serious
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Skittykiller on October 25, 2021, 11:10:18 pm
Ofc you're the retard that takes this serious

Says the retard
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: retamar123 on October 26, 2021, 10:59:16 am
Ofc you're the retard that takes this serious

Says the retard

Said the retard
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on October 26, 2021, 11:05:00 am
I think people heavily underestimate the importance of Regiments in 2021. Still I don't see why Regiments and Tournament hosts cant work together? If both are happy to both get privileges and let go of some it could be great. I don't think it's that big of a deal for Regiments to not have a (competitive) Sunday event once a month. If tournaments can start earlier then that's brilliant, just coordinate it. On the other hand, why not make sure after important matches in EIC or RGL, no GF team tournament is happening. The most painful example probably was my EGS tournament starting super late due to EIC semi between 92nd and 45thN taking ~2 hours. That's again bad for both sides and could be easily fixed.
Not gonna lie but the second you make Regimental and Groupfighting tourneys take place at the same time, is the time when both Regimental attendance and tournament attendance drops.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2021, 11:58:22 am
With RGL or something it’s not so bad but EIC can honestly fuck off with the hours long matches, most players in the regs that will win don’t actually want to be there anyway and cutting into the time they’re meant to be playing a GF tournament is ridiculous, 1v1 tournaments could just start earlier
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gi on October 26, 2021, 12:04:57 pm
What a pointless discussion, see you all next tournament, Sunday 8pm
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 26, 2021, 12:05:24 pm
What a pointless discussion, see you all next tournament, Sunday 8pm
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on October 26, 2021, 09:28:01 pm
What a pointless discussion, see you all next tournament, Sunday 8pm
xDDD ^^^I agree stupid discussion! No way do we change to a Saturday! 7pm sundays? Would love them but no chance so drop the idea and accept it stays sunday like it has been for years!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on October 27, 2021, 02:02:36 pm
No you change it now or we leave!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ambiguous on October 27, 2021, 03:24:51 pm
No you change it now or we leave!
токсик
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on October 27, 2021, 03:43:03 pm
No you change it now or we leave!

have a great time, was fun

anyway
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on October 27, 2021, 03:53:11 pm
No you change it now or we leave!
токсик
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on October 27, 2021, 06:18:15 pm
What a pointless discussion, see you all next tournament, Sunday 8pm

Fse the broken record.


If anyone wants to bring back Early Monday tournaments, mighty pain style be my guest.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on October 27, 2021, 07:29:20 pm
No you change it now or we leave!
-_-
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on November 05, 2021, 12:36:44 am
I propose to install autoblock protection on the official servers, or force every player to pass an anti-cheat test, including autoblock before the tournament starts. That's all, thanks.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 05, 2021, 12:38:23 am
I propose to install autoblock protection on the official servers, or force every player to pass an anti-cheat test, including autoblock before the tournament starts. That's all, thanks.
That's not going to happen. Mount and Blade is sadly too old of a game to get an anti-cheat on it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on November 05, 2021, 12:44:10 am
I also suggest:
- Increase the number of teams in League 2. Invite 56, the AO team, and many others, including a team from the 55th BC, and the Portuguese 1stBdC.
- Change the host of the tournament from France to Germany.
- Increase the number of rounds in the group stage from 5 to 7
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 05, 2021, 12:45:15 am
I also suggest:
- Increase the number of teams in League 2. Invite 56, the AO team, and many others, including a team from the 55th BC, and the Portuguese 1stBdC.
- Change the host of the tournament from France to Germany.
- Increase the number of rounds in the group stage from 5 to 7
We already asked a bunch of teams including those you have mentioned, but we are still working on it to get more teams in league 2, if I'm not wrong we only need 1 or 2 teams to fill league 2 completely.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on November 05, 2021, 12:47:27 am
I also suggest:
- Increase the number of teams in League 2. Invite 56, the AO team, and many others, including a team from the 55th BC, and the Portuguese 1stBdC.
- Change the host of the tournament from France to Germany.
- Increase the number of rounds in the group stage from 5 to 7

If you include more teams and increase the number of rounds in the groupstage to 7 then the tournaments will take too long especially considering someone constantly delaying...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on November 05, 2021, 12:48:45 am
French servers are way way better as well
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on November 05, 2021, 01:58:29 am
plz take german serves so I can get 30 ping :D:D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MechIsGod on November 05, 2021, 02:18:35 am
plz take german serves so I can get 30 ping :D:D
Dutch servers please
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on November 05, 2021, 02:18:56 am
plz take german serves so I can get 30 ping :D:D
Dutch servers please

Oh I'll take 24 ping instead no problem
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: sHype on November 05, 2021, 02:22:36 am
plz take german serves so I can get 30 ping :D:D
Dutch servers please

Oh I'll take 24 ping instead no problem

Dutch is the best lmao
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on November 05, 2021, 02:28:41 am
DUTCH OR FRENCH SERVERS GOOD NOBODY FUKKIN LIKES GERMAN SERVERS NEVER HAVE
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on November 05, 2021, 04:07:45 am
DUTCH OR FRENCH SERVERS GOOD NOBODY FUKKIN LIKES GERMAN SERVERS NEVER HAVE
germany is the centre of europe, so its the best choice overall
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ClaSh on November 05, 2021, 11:54:41 am
DUTCH OR FRENCH SERVERS GOOD NOBODY FUKKIN LIKES GERMAN SERVERS NEVER HAVE
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on November 05, 2021, 12:06:33 pm
DUTCH OR FRENCH SERVERS GOOD NOBODY FUKKIN LIKES GERMAN SERVERS NEVER HAVE
germany is the centre of europe, so its the best choice overall

The location is decent but the actual servers themselves are worse
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on November 05, 2021, 12:36:02 pm
^ fact ^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kong on November 05, 2021, 12:55:51 pm
just put spanish servers so everyone has shit ping
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on November 05, 2021, 01:37:33 pm
Dw guys, Mac is buying a Dublin server for us
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on November 05, 2021, 01:52:51 pm
Istanbul servers are the best, I get 120 ping and I live 3 hours away from them
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on November 05, 2021, 03:04:43 pm
DUTCH OR FRENCH SERVERS GOOD NOBODY FUKKIN LIKES GERMAN SERVERS NEVER HAVE
germany is the centre of europe, so its the best choice overall

The location is decent but the actual servers themselves are worse

Literally a lie but sure
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gibby Jr on November 05, 2021, 06:40:18 pm
German servers should be used
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on November 05, 2021, 06:44:47 pm
German servers should be used
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on November 05, 2021, 07:03:21 pm
DUTCH OR FRENCH SERVERS GOOD NOBODY FUKKIN LIKES GERMAN SERVERS NEVER HAVE
germany is the centre of europe, so its the best choice overall

The location is decent but the actual servers themselves are worse

+1

dont take my 9 ping away :(
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on November 06, 2021, 01:28:21 am
German servers should be used
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on November 06, 2021, 11:24:08 am
play saturdays so we can #FreeRiki

thanks

Also, how is Ogok allowed to play EGS? Hasn't he just been outed as autoblocking lol?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 06, 2021, 11:43:57 am
play saturdays so we can #FreeRiki

thanks

Also, how is Ogok allowed to play EGS? Hasn't he just been outed as autoblocking lol?
@Voluble
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on November 06, 2021, 11:44:06 am
Also, how is Saxon allowed to play EGS? Hasn't he just been outed as autoblocking lol?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on November 06, 2021, 12:25:09 pm
How is Ogok being "outed" for autoblocking while doing the same as many other people that ppl also call autoblockers but nobody cares if they play or not tho
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on November 06, 2021, 12:32:41 pm
How is Ogok being "outed" for autoblocking while doing the same as many other people that ppl also call autoblockers but nobody cares if they play or not tho

this gave me dyslexia to read sorry
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on November 06, 2021, 12:35:22 pm
How is Ogok being "outed" for autoblocking while doing the same as many other people that ppl also call autoblockers but nobody cares if they play or not tho
"other people", who ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on November 06, 2021, 12:48:54 pm
How is Ogok being "outed" for autoblocking while doing the same as many other people that ppl also call autoblockers but nobody cares if they play or not tho
"other people", who ?

e.g. Flusha whos even more obvious
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on November 06, 2021, 01:00:13 pm
Issue is unless you ban CIS and Turks from playing unless they can prove innocence or we all know them, they’re gonna have a high proportion of autos, I think having auto becomes a “real” issue e.g. more than just an annoyance if they’re either abusing it with the way they play (Ogok style running forward and blocking 3 people at once for a whole round) or they’re in a team that can actually compete in tournaments, otherwise most of the time they’re useless with or without it

And yes I know other people auto too and we all know who those people are but as a ratio of “clean” to cheating players CIS and Turkey are much worse
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on November 06, 2021, 01:03:59 pm
Yes that is true (98o). Idk why no one has done anything about it, and Wursti aren't you helping to organise this shit? Like my guy you just said you know both autoblock but you basically won't do anything about it? What's the point in following any of your rules if you knowingly let cheaters play?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on November 06, 2021, 01:04:55 pm
Bring me back to the good days where the only Turk was rebellious and movement was the big autoblocking god  :-\
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on November 06, 2021, 01:17:18 pm
so using auto block is fine but coloured weapons is not ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on November 06, 2021, 01:30:02 pm
ban all cis players for cheating so we may finally rest in peace
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on November 06, 2021, 01:30:56 pm
ban all cis players for cheating so we may finally rest in peace

Especially this guy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 06, 2021, 01:51:32 pm
I want otoblok
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on November 06, 2021, 03:22:01 pm
ban all cis players for cheating so we may finally rest in peace

Especially this guy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on November 06, 2021, 05:08:21 pm
ban autoblockers, i dont get why this is even a discussion.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on November 06, 2021, 08:48:38 pm
ban autoblockers, i dont get why this is even a discussion.
+1
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on November 07, 2021, 09:00:10 pm
you can't just ban people based on assumption, as much as obvious they might be
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on November 07, 2021, 09:56:38 pm
ok I will assume that I will download turkish autoblocker and assume you will not ban me
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on November 07, 2021, 11:10:34 pm
you can't just ban people based on assumption, as much as obvious they might be

same should be for mm and gf server
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on November 08, 2021, 03:42:55 am
How is Ogok being "outed" for autoblocking while doing the same as many other people that ppl also call autoblockers but nobody cares if they play or not tho
"other people", who ?

e.g. Flusha whos even more obvious
Flusha was so obvious in that last 5v5 randomised where MarxeiL and I literally focused him by doing one stab where he was then stuck and unable to switch to my the other block so we could 2v1 him so easily each time since he had the out of date version back then. Idk why no one has banned him yet lol.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on November 08, 2021, 02:53:16 pm
@wursti how do the stats work? How do they count rounds played etc? Or are only kills etc taken into account

edit: nvm u answered it in the 5v5 thread
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on November 08, 2021, 02:56:57 pm
Ill write how everything works on the Statistics Thread soon dw
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 14, 2021, 05:44:33 pm
HiReaper banned 2 tournaments and nearly got a season ban because he "dared" to upload a video of a monkey tking, that's what happens when you let germans in charge  ???
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: James. on December 14, 2021, 05:51:16 pm
free reaper
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 14, 2021, 05:52:21 pm
free reaper
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 14, 2021, 05:53:23 pm
HiReaper banned 2 tournaments and nearly got a season ban because he "dared" to upload a video of a monkey tking, that's what happens when you let germans in charge  ???

I don't get why you banned Reaper considering he wasn't the one who TKed. Neither is it his responsibility to protect the integrity of a tournament he isn't participating in.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 14, 2021, 05:56:23 pm
HiReaper banned 2 tournaments and nearly got a season ban because he "dared" to upload a video of a monkey tking, that's what happens when you let germans in charge  ???

I don't get why you banned Reaper considering he wasn't the one who TKed. Neither is it his responsibility to protect the integrity of a tournament he isn't participating in.
^

The worst part of the story is that you don't give him any warning or chance to apologize, you put a team in trouble on top of that
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on December 14, 2021, 06:04:13 pm
sigma male
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 14, 2021, 06:04:19 pm
Me saying the n-word as an admin just got a warning while HiReaper did a small homophobic thing = 2 MATCH BAN!
Great succes!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 14, 2021, 06:08:33 pm
Me saying the n-word as an admin just got a warning while HiReaper did a small homophobic thing = 2 MATCH BAN!
Great succes!
and it wasn't even hireaper who did it, also something that should've been mentioned earlier is that hireaper had asked me if I was fine with the video being uploaded to which I had no issue with since me and my teammates were laughing our asses off and were joking about it as you could've seen in the in-game chat
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 14, 2021, 06:10:00 pm
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 14, 2021, 06:11:27 pm
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 14, 2021, 06:14:46 pm
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on December 14, 2021, 06:32:25 pm
I'm not sure if this helps at all but before the tournament, I did ask hireaper to record some of our group stage matches and our playoff match vs Goodfellas as I wanted to see a different POV of my team after the event. I record my matches but you can only see so much from your POV when you are playing.  The reason I say this is because I don't think reaper threw on the recording just to get a troll with adamek going I think he just happened to be recording when it happened. I didn't really see the vid so I cant give much insight on the clip but thought I would share my part since I did originally ask reaper to record shit for me.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 14, 2021, 06:32:56 pm
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on December 14, 2021, 06:35:09 pm
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 14, 2021, 06:37:50 pm
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 14, 2021, 06:53:44 pm
Spoiler
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
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Yes I know, the fact is that recording someone who does something stupid doesn't make him an accomplice, it's true that it was clumsy to record but as Giorno said above he is in no way responsible for the integrity of the tournament and for Adamek, if this retard wants to tk I don't see how the fact that HiReaper record or not would prevent him from doing it while Adamek was already tking poeple before Stoiki, the decision to ban him is very strict for a situation that is full of confusion
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 14, 2021, 06:54:51 pm
Spoiler
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
[close]
Yes I know, the fact is that recording someone who does something stupid doesn't make him an accomplice, it's true that it was clumsy to record but as giorno said above he is in no way responsible for the integrity of the tournament and for Adamek, if this retard wants to tk I don't see how the fact that HiReaper record or not would prevent him from doing it while Adamek was already tking poeple before Stoiki
If you can't see why recording something bad/illegal you know is about to happen is a problem then I can't help you any further I'm afraid.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 14, 2021, 06:56:41 pm
Spoiler
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
[close]
Yes I know, the fact is that recording someone who does something stupid doesn't make him an accomplice, it's true that it was clumsy to record but as giorno said above he is in no way responsible for the integrity of the tournament and for Adamek, if this retard wants to tk I don't see how the fact that HiReaper record or not would prevent him from doing it while Adamek was already tking poeple before Stoiki
If you can't see why recording something bad/illegal you know is about to happen is a problem then I can't help you any further I'm afraid.
It's a problem and it was clumsy from HiReaper (And again there is no evidence that he was only recording for the Adamek tk), but is it a problem that deserves a 2 tournament ban without any warning beforehand?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 14, 2021, 06:58:43 pm
Spoiler
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
[close]
Yes I know, the fact is that recording someone who does something stupid doesn't make him an accomplice, it's true that it was clumsy to record but as giorno said above he is in no way responsible for the integrity of the tournament and for Adamek, if this retard wants to tk I don't see how the fact that HiReaper record or not would prevent him from doing it while Adamek was already tking poeple before Stoiki
If you can't see why recording something bad/illegal you know is about to happen is a problem then I can't help you any further I'm afraid.
It's a problem and it was clumsy from HiReaper, but is it a problem that deserves a 2 tournament ban without any warning beforehand?
We all know the rules by now, people don't need warnings anymore and he's hardly new to tournaments. You may think it seems harsh but I doubt anyone will end up doing such a thing again going forward, where as if it was just a 'warning' they most likely would.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on December 14, 2021, 07:05:22 pm
Me saying the n-word as an admin just got a warning while HiReaper did a small homophobic thing = 2 MATCH BAN!
Great succes!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on December 14, 2021, 07:26:52 pm
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban

I was also told the reason for my ban is also due to "encouraging trolly/homophobic behavior". This is a laughable concept.

The only point that is accurate is that adamek was in the same ts as me, but if you know adamek, the guy does not care at all about consequences and would've killed any random. In fact, if you looked at the server logs, you will see adamek just killing everyone on the goodfellas bench earlier in the tourny because he doesn't CARE and is a massive troll.

Getting a 2 tourny ban is an utter joke. I clearly care about EGS, I edited and recorded multiple videos for EGS because I care for the community. Throwing all that away because of this one incident is a meme. No warning or chance to apologise, no response to me on steam at all as well @darktemplar ????



Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on December 14, 2021, 07:57:17 pm
imagine banning a guy who just recorded someone tking
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on December 15, 2021, 12:25:15 am
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban

I was also told the reason for my ban is also due to "encouraging trolly/homophobic behavior". This is a laughable concept.

The only point that is accurate is that adamek was in the same ts as me, but if you know adamek, the guy does not care at all about consequences and would've killed any random. In fact, if you looked at the server logs, you will see adamek just killing everyone on the goodfellas bench earlier in the tourny because he doesn't CARE and is a massive troll.

Getting a 2 tourny ban is an utter joke. I clearly care about EGS, I edited and recorded multiple videos for EGS because I care for the community. Throwing all that away because of this one incident is a meme. No warning or chance to apologise, no response to me on steam at all as well @darktemplar????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7yJjcvUNZs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 15, 2021, 02:18:47 am
Spoiler
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
[close]
Yes I know, the fact is that recording someone who does something stupid doesn't make him an accomplice, it's true that it was clumsy to record but as giorno said above he is in no way responsible for the integrity of the tournament and for Adamek, if this retard wants to tk I don't see how the fact that HiReaper record or not would prevent him from doing it while Adamek was already tking poeple before Stoiki
If you can't see why recording something bad/illegal you know is about to happen is a problem then I can't help you any further I'm afraid.
It's a problem and it was clumsy from HiReaper (And again there is no evidence that he was only recording for the Adamek tk), but is it a problem that deserves a 2 tournament ban without any warning beforehand?
Valorant is calling…
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on December 15, 2021, 06:52:37 am
Warn hireaper and permaban adamek if what hirepar said is true.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 15, 2021, 10:37:46 am
Spoiler
He had it recorded with the two guys who were committing the rule-break talking in the background from what I heard which would imply he knew what those people were going to do and was perfectly happy to endorse their behaviour by recording it and uploading it.
it was only adamek who did it, prussian's in uni and has been offline on steam for the past 3 weeks.
Ah okay. Point's still relevant to Adamek however.
We have no proof if HiReaper was complicit, in my opinion he just saw Adamek tk and recorded like a moron because it was funny, and anyway it would be a matter of calming down a bit, he can just apologize and take a warning instead of banning him from 2 tournaments and putting the Animals even more in trouble..
Adamek's voice was literally in the video so it wasn't like he just decided to record that TK he was with him at the time.
[close]
Yes I know, the fact is that recording someone who does something stupid doesn't make him an accomplice, it's true that it was clumsy to record but as giorno said above he is in no way responsible for the integrity of the tournament and for Adamek, if this retard wants to tk I don't see how the fact that HiReaper record or not would prevent him from doing it while Adamek was already tking poeple before Stoiki
If you can't see why recording something bad/illegal you know is about to happen is a problem then I can't help you any further I'm afraid.
It's a problem and it was clumsy from HiReaper (And again there is no evidence that he was only recording for the Adamek tk), but is it a problem that deserves a 2 tournament ban without any warning beforehand?
Valorant is calling…
Anorexia too…
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 15, 2021, 10:37:54 am
Warn hireaper and permaban adamek if what hirepar said is true.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 10:39:13 am
I doubt this is up for negotiation
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on December 15, 2021, 10:44:07 am
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban

I was also told the reason for my ban is also due to "encouraging trolly/homophobic behavior". This is a laughable concept.

The only point that is accurate is that adamek was in the same ts as me, but if you know adamek, the guy does not care at all about consequences and would've killed any random. In fact, if you looked at the server logs, you will see adamek just killing everyone on the goodfellas bench earlier in the tourny because he doesn't CARE and is a massive troll.

Getting a 2 tourny ban is an utter joke. I clearly care about EGS, I edited and recorded multiple videos for EGS because I care for the community. Throwing all that away because of this one incident is a meme. No warning or chance to apologise, no response to me on steam at all as well @darktemplar ????
How about you actually try to apologize then instead of crying on fse, even though you clearly understand that your actions were inappropriate.
Would be a good start wouldn’t it?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 10:44:30 am
RIGGED
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 15, 2021, 10:48:52 am
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban

I was also told the reason for my ban is also due to "encouraging trolly/homophobic behavior". This is a laughable concept.

The only point that is accurate is that adamek was in the same ts as me, but if you know adamek, the guy does not care at all about consequences and would've killed any random. In fact, if you looked at the server logs, you will see adamek just killing everyone on the goodfellas bench earlier in the tourny because he doesn't CARE and is a massive troll.

Getting a 2 tourny ban is an utter joke. I clearly care about EGS, I edited and recorded multiple videos for EGS because I care for the community. Throwing all that away because of this one incident is a meme. No warning or chance to apologise, no response to me on steam at all as well @darktemplar ????
How about you actually try to apologize then instead of crying on fse, even though you clearly understand that your actions were inappropriate.
Would be a good start wouldn’t it?
Ah yes the famous "Stop crying" when you disagree with something, It would also be a good start to apologies if your buddy answered him on steam?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on December 15, 2021, 10:59:58 am
Lmao
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on December 15, 2021, 11:18:52 am
The decision has been announced. It isn't gonna get walked back at this stage.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on December 15, 2021, 11:24:37 am
Spoiler
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban

I was also told the reason for my ban is also due to "encouraging trolly/homophobic behavior". This is a laughable concept.

The only point that is accurate is that adamek was in the same ts as me, but if you know adamek, the guy does not care at all about consequences and would've killed any random. In fact, if you looked at the server logs, you will see adamek just killing everyone on the goodfellas bench earlier in the tourny because he doesn't CARE and is a massive troll.

Getting a 2 tourny ban is an utter joke. I clearly care about EGS, I edited and recorded multiple videos for EGS because I care for the community. Throwing all that away because of this one incident is a meme. No warning or chance to apologise, no response to me on steam at all as well @darktemplar ????
How about you actually try to apologize then instead of crying on fse, even though you clearly understand that your actions were inappropriate.
Would be a good start wouldn’t it?
Ah yes the famous "Stop crying" when you disagree with something, It would also be a good start to apologies if your buddy answered him on steam?
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Yes it would, never disagreed on this one but the post above doesn’t really seem like your buddy realized that his actions were inappropriate. Disagreeing on something and arguing about it in a proper way is one thing, but phrases like "laughable concept" and "utter joke", don’t sound like reflected arguments but it does sound like crying in my ears.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 11:27:46 am
Spoiler
Someone homophobe to stoiki > stoiki doesnt care > ban

I was also told the reason for my ban is also due to "encouraging trolly/homophobic behavior". This is a laughable concept.

The only point that is accurate is that adamek was in the same ts as me, but if you know adamek, the guy does not care at all about consequences and would've killed any random. In fact, if you looked at the server logs, you will see adamek just killing everyone on the goodfellas bench earlier in the tourny because he doesn't CARE and is a massive troll.

Getting a 2 tourny ban is an utter joke. I clearly care about EGS, I edited and recorded multiple videos for EGS because I care for the community. Throwing all that away because of this one incident is a meme. No warning or chance to apologise, no response to me on steam at all as well @darktemplar ????
How about you actually try to apologize then instead of crying on fse, even though you clearly understand that your actions were inappropriate.
Would be a good start wouldn’t it?
Ah yes the famous "Stop crying" when you disagree with something, It would also be a good start to apologies if your buddy answered him on steam?
[close]
Yes it would, never disagreed on this one but post above doesn’t really seem like your buddy realized that his actions were inappropriate. Disagreeing on something and arguing about it in a proper way is one thing, but phrases like "laughable concept" and "utter joke", don’t sound like reflected arguments but it does sound like crying in my ears.

Blacktham is now EGS attorney confirmed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 15, 2021, 11:29:48 am
Well anyway I already feel like I've lost 10 IQ points just by logging on this forum, I did my best to help my friend from an injustice but apparently the great organization of "EGS" which consists of 100 players want to be strict to show the example on a dead game, on that note I'm going back to play a real game see you bots  :P
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on December 15, 2021, 11:29:56 am
Encourages trolling > records it (doesnt exactly mean he started the recording just for this moment) > uploads it to youtube > is surprised why he is banned

Can someone explain the logic to me?

I have an example (maybe not the must suitable one, but an example): If someone has a car accident and another person films and uploads it (especially how the damaged persons look like). Do you think someone like him will stay unpunished? But hey, it has to be the German Head Admins, part of Enigma, who just want HiReaper gone so they have an advantage against Animals, right?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 15, 2021, 11:34:25 am
Encourages trolling > records it (doesnt exactly mean he started the recording just for this moment) > uploads it to youtube > is surprised why he is banned

Can someone explain the logic to me?

I have an example (maybe not the must suitable one, but an example): If someone has a car accident and another person films and uploads it (especially how the damaged persons look like). Do you think someone like him will stay unpunished? But hey, it has to be the German Head Admins, part of Enigma, who just want HiReaper gone so they have an advantage against Animals, right?
Problem with the analogy is that he had my permission to upload the video, but hey, gay people can't defend themselves without sjws
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 11:55:48 am
Recording and uploading the video was dumb, not being willing to apologise is worse, I’m sure DT would’ve looked again but the lack of remorse makes it a whole lot worse, as does someone like zeyden jumping in to argue on the forums about it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 15, 2021, 12:02:41 pm
Recording and uploading the video was dumb, not being willing to apologise is worse, I’m sure DT would’ve looked again but the lack of remorse makes it a whole lot worse, as does someone like zeyden jumping in to argue on the forums about it
Don't see why Hireaper would have to apologize to a bunch of sjws over uploading a video of me getting tked by a retard. Also I gave Hireaper permission to upload it in the first place but everyone seems to have ignored that.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 12:07:23 pm
Recording and uploading the video was dumb, not being willing to apologise is worse, I’m sure DT would’ve looked again but the lack of remorse makes it a whole lot worse, as does someone like zeyden jumping in to argue on the forums about it
Don't see why Hireaper would have to apologize to a bunch of sjws over uploading a video of me getting tked by a retard. Also I gave Hireaper permission to upload it in the first place but everyone seems to have ignored that.

Because it’s nothing to do with you personally stoiki it’s what the video encourages and the image it portrays, if they tolerate trolling of events and the recording and uploading of it then anyone could do it, the whole point is 0 tolerance of trolling in events, that’s the same no matter who it happens to
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on December 15, 2021, 12:12:32 pm
Well anyway I already feel like I've lost 10 IQ points just by logging on this forum, I did my best to help my friend from an injustice but apparently the great organization of "EGS" which consists of 100 players want to be strict to show the example on a dead game, on that note I'm going back to play a real game see you bots  :P

Your opinion was irrelevant anyway since you don't even play in EGS. Keep doing well in Valorant, if you don't you might have to get a real job!!  :-[

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on December 15, 2021, 12:14:21 pm
Maybe spam and insult us more, we might unban him then because of good behaviour or something  ::)

also I hate sjws myself so stop blaming it on us being such  ;)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on December 15, 2021, 12:19:30 pm
This is pointless. The ban is still gonna stand.

Keep calling me a SJW tho, I don't mind.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 12:21:37 pm
Voluble leaving is the biggest loose of egs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 15, 2021, 12:22:22 pm
This is pointless. The ban is still gonna stand.

Keep calling me a SJW tho, I don't mind.
Then I suppose Wursti, as one of the head admins, will receive just punishment for his remarks during the last 7v7 league 1 tourny https://i.imgur.com/PXNmkYo.png because of him encouraging homophobic behaviour
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on December 15, 2021, 12:23:58 pm
Voluble leaving is the biggest loose of egs

why is egs loose
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 15, 2021, 12:29:45 pm
This is pointless. The ban is still gonna stand.

Keep calling me a SJW tho, I don't mind.
Then I suppose Wursti, as one of the head admins, will receive just punishment for his remarks during the last 7v7 league 1 tourny https://i.imgur.com/PXNmkYo.png because of him encouraging homophobic behaviour
I believe Wursti backed out as an organiser yesterday actually, unless he has changed his mind. We did discuss in the organisers group that we would be coming down harsher on things like this however after the last tournament.

P.S. Vol still talks constantly in the organisers group and also said to ban HiReaper for one tournament (not 2, but yeah either-way if Vol was there or not he'd have been punished). :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on December 15, 2021, 12:35:23 pm
I think it’s time to make me an official head admin.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 15, 2021, 12:35:55 pm
Well anyway I already feel like I've lost 10 IQ points just by logging on this forum, I did my best to help my friend from an injustice but apparently the great organization of "EGS" which consists of 100 players want to be strict to show the example on a dead game, on that note I'm going back to play a real game see you bots  :P

Your opinion was irrelevant anyway since you don't even play in EGS. Keep doing well in Valorant, if you don't you might have to get a real job!!  :-[
Don't worry i'm on the grind my little *snip*! I will send you some clips on occasion  :-*

(https://i.imgur.com/ELfl7hD.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 15, 2021, 12:38:16 pm
Can’t wait to see Big Z on an official e-sports valorant team. Gonna fan girl out
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on December 15, 2021, 12:39:18 pm
Encourages trolling > records it (doesnt exactly mean he started the recording just for this moment) > uploads it to youtube > is surprised why he is banned

Can someone explain the logic to me?

I have an example (maybe not the must suitable one, but an example): If someone has a car accident and another person films and uploads it (especially how the damaged persons look like). Do you think someone like him will stay unpunished? But hey, it has to be the German Head Admins, part of Enigma, who just want HiReaper gone so they have an advantage against Animals, right?
Oh i'm sorry mr. InRealLife, in that case i think we should call the police, tell them to come on fse and put HiReaper in jail for his crimes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on December 15, 2021, 12:39:36 pm
Can’t wait to see Big Z on an official e-sports valorant team. Gonna fan girl out
Thanks guys, I'm doing this for all of you when I get back in the game I'll be a billionaire and I'll be doing tournaments with millions of euros in cash prizes  :-[
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on December 15, 2021, 12:40:41 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/05339e6e9691e51d907a60de6b795ea7.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on December 15, 2021, 12:53:25 pm
Encourages trolling > records it (doesnt exactly mean he started the recording just for this moment) > uploads it to youtube > is surprised why he is banned

Can someone explain the logic to me?

I have an example (maybe not the must suitable one, but an example): If someone has a car accident and another person films and uploads it (especially how the damaged persons look like). Do you think someone like him will stay unpunished? But hey, it has to be the German Head Admins, part of Enigma, who just want HiReaper gone so they have an advantage against Animals, right?
Oh i'm sorry mr. InRealLife, in that case i think we should call the police, tell them to come on fse and put HiReaper in jail for his crimes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 12:54:59 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/3ca6458de2780680eb1b956dfe234a15.gif)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on December 15, 2021, 12:58:44 pm
I think it’s time to make me an official head admin.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on December 15, 2021, 12:59:11 pm
Just a word of advice, if you want to dispute an action you deem unruly and unfair best to do it on
over steam and TS.

FSE is the worst place to do it especially with that kind of thankless post that ends in a shitty bait @HiReaper.

I haven’t seen the video, maybe the admin team is right, maybe they’re wrong - regardless EGS has been pretty consistent and successful so far (coming from someone who doesn’t really care about EGS) so show some actual respect rather than gaslighting on this thread and getting your mates to argue on your behalf.

Maybe this would be a good start to getting unbanned  ;)^

Best of luck convincing them now :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DayBoul on December 15, 2021, 01:16:47 pm
Well anyway I already feel like I've lost 10 IQ points just by logging on this forum, I did my best to help my friend from an injustice but apparently the great organization of "EGS" which consists of 100 players want to be strict to show the example on a dead game, on that note I'm going back to play a real game see you bots  :P

Your opinion was irrelevant anyway since you don't even play in EGS. Keep doing well in Valorant, if you don't you might have to get a real job!!  :-[
bruh XD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 15, 2021, 01:21:34 pm
Encourages trolling > records it (doesnt exactly mean he started the recording just for this moment) > uploads it to youtube > is surprised why he is banned

Can someone explain the logic to me?

I have an example (maybe not the must suitable one, but an example): If someone has a car accident and another person films and uploads it (especially how the damaged persons look like). Do you think someone like him will stay unpunished? But hey, it has to be the German Head Admins, part of Enigma, who just want HiReaper gone so they have an advantage against Animals, right?
Problem with the analogy is that he had my permission to upload the video, but hey, gay people can't defend themselves without sjws
Just because you’re okay with homophobia doesn’t mean every gay person is.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 01:24:56 pm
Just a word of advice, if you want to dispute an action you deem unruly and unfair best to do it on
over steam and TS.

FSE is the worst place to do it especially with that kind of thankless post that ends in a shitty bait @HiReaper.

I haven’t seen the video, maybe the admin team is right, maybe they’re wrong - regardless EGS has been pretty consistent and successful so far (coming from someone who doesn’t really care about EGS) so show some actual respect rather than gaslighting on this thread and getting your mates to argue on your behalf.

Maybe this would be a good start to getting unbanned  ;)^

Best of luck convincing them now :)
he messaged DarkTemplar on steam so what are you on about?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 15, 2021, 01:26:19 pm
And Dark Templar will reply when he has time.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ry@n on December 15, 2021, 01:27:12 pm
This is pointless. The ban is still gonna stand.

Keep calling me a SJW tho, I don't mind.
Then I suppose Wursti, as one of the head admins, will receive just punishment for his remarks during the last 7v7 league 1 tourny https://i.imgur.com/PXNmkYo.png because of him encouraging homophobic behaviour
Oof
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 01:27:39 pm
And Dark Templar will reply when he has time.
tell him to be fast cuz the fse drama Will keep going!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on December 15, 2021, 01:29:10 pm
Just a word of advice, if you want to dispute an action you deem unruly and unfair best to do it on
over steam and TS.

FSE is the worst place to do it especially with that kind of thankless post that ends in a shitty bait @HiReaper.

I haven’t seen the video, maybe the admin team is right, maybe they’re wrong - regardless EGS has been pretty consistent and successful so far (coming from someone who doesn’t really care about EGS) so show some actual respect rather than gaslighting on this thread and getting your mates to argue on your behalf.

Maybe this would be a good start to getting unbanned  ;)^

Best of luck convincing them now :)
he messaged DarkTemplar on steam so what are you on about?

Oh lol did he, I skim read the thread :)

Point still stands, don’t throw oil onto the fire, if DT is busy and hasn’t replied then just wait otherwise you’re just under mining your own argument
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 15, 2021, 01:29:31 pm
Or you know, people could be patient. It is like 4 weeks until the next tournament.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 01:36:02 pm
Just a word of advice, if you want to dispute an action you deem unruly and unfair best to do it on
over steam and TS.

FSE is the worst place to do it especially with that kind of thankless post that ends in a shitty bait @HiReaper.

I haven’t seen the video, maybe the admin team is right, maybe they’re wrong - regardless EGS has been pretty consistent and successful so far (coming from someone who doesn’t really care about EGS) so show some actual respect rather than gaslighting on this thread and getting your mates to argue on your behalf.

Maybe this would be a good start to getting unbanned  ;)^

Best of luck convincing them now :)
he messaged DarkTemplar on steam so what are you on about?

Oh lol did he, I skim read the thread :)

Point still stands, don’t throw oil onto the fire, if DT is busy and hasn’t replied then just wait otherwise you’re just under mining your own argument
Not really, there was a lot of time to discuss the whole perspective but there is ig no time to ask HiReaper what was going on. When I said Some bad shit (as an admin) Voluble messaged me directly for getting a proper and unbiased view of what happend.
I dont see that happening rn and the decision is solely made by the admin without giving a chance for HiReaper to defend himself.
I dont say what HiReaper did is right but thats not the point i try to make here
Fun fact: Wursti and Maskman can soon make a ‘40 years and virgin’ spin-off
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: StockholmDE on December 15, 2021, 02:14:10 pm
All of you should show some respect. It's hard to host quality tournaments for a community like this, but the egs team is doing an amazing job for more than 1 season now. I see no need to be flamming each other, crying, or playing the victim card.

The punishment for HiReaper is indeed on the limit but it's within a reasonable judgement so I don't see where it's a "joke". And when you react as HiReaper did I would see no reason at all to reconsider it.

And if the EGS goes to a stricter line of judgement, we should all be thankful. Some people reckon they can write and do anything. Only a benefit for all of us if that changes.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 02:16:12 pm
Stockholm, saying what the sane people think but can't be arsed to actually type out. Thank Stock.

Only thing I would criticise is that if HiReaper indeed didn't get a chance to defend himself as Dark didn't respond, then no punishment should have been taken yet. Remember guys its innocent until proven guilty you have to allow him to mount a defense.

EDIT: Spelling REE
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:16:53 pm
I think the funniest part, is that the people complaining about what HiReaper did do not actually care; this community has an awful habit of allowing known auto blockers, DDOSers and cheaters in general to return to this community with open arms in the matter of a couple of months, or worse, nothing actually happens to them and instead of investigating, just let it be.

It's all fun and games banning HiReaper for posting a TKing video for two tournaments, but the amount of hypocrisy from some of the people who are advocating his ban is absolutely abominable, so much so that it's extremely laughable. Instead of complaining about something so miniscule, start calling out people who actually deserve to be banned for their excessive use of texture changes, zoom hacks and anything else under the sun, a quick ten second search on youtube will give you some lovely old videos of so called 'top players' using some form of 'cheat'.

This community is only complaining because of the drama that becomes of it, rather than actually giving a shit about what happened, but that's ok though because this community is ran by a bunch of children who actually have little to no idea what's right and wrong as it's the same people who're inherently racist, xenophobic or just absolute morons.



Lastly, the ban for HiReaper was excessive by anyone's standard, especially for this community where a slap on the wrist is given to someone for doxxing, a tournament ban would suffice, but two is excessive considering that's almost the rest of the tournament for him.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:23:49 pm
If you don’t like it leave then… he did something dumb, he shows no intention to apologise for it on here at least so he deals with what comes next, the fact EGS are actually deciding to have standards and enforce them doesn’t mean it’s too harsh or wrong in some way
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:24:57 pm
If you don’t like it leave then… he did something dumb, he shows no intention to apologise for it on here at least so he deals with what comes next, the fact EGS are actually deciding to have standards and enforce them doesn’t mean it’s too harsh or wrong in some way

If you don't like it, change it - much like your attitude
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 15, 2021, 02:25:17 pm
I've always said that we should have went more down the native route and banned all the texture changes and things so we can stop all 'cheats' entirely tbh but everyone was against it. You say about known autoblockers but there is no 'real' way to prove this.

If you hate how the communities run so much Fietta how about you actually try do something yourself for once rather than sitting on the forums all day complaining about how much better you are than the rest of this community lmao.

If you don’t like it leave then… he did something dumb, he shows no intention to apologise for it on here at least so he deals with what comes next, the fact EGS are actually deciding to have standards and enforce them doesn’t mean it’s too harsh or wrong in some way

If you don't like it, change it - much like your attitude
Ironic post.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:26:22 pm
I literally pointed out how they’ve changed the way they’re doing it and you say that… well okay then
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:27:00 pm
I've always said that we should have went more down the native route and banned all the texture changes and things so we can stop all 'cheats' entirely tbh but everyone was against it. You say about known autoblockers but there is no 'real' way to prove this.

If you hate how the communities run so much Fietta how about you actually try do something yourself for once rather than sitting on the forums all day complaining about how much better you are than the rest of this community lmao.

If you don’t like it leave then… he did something dumb, he shows no intention to apologise for it on here at least so he deals with what comes next, the fact EGS are actually deciding to have standards and enforce them doesn’t mean it’s too harsh or wrong in some way

If you don't like it, change it - much like your attitude
Ironic post.

Change starts at the top, but considering the 'top' being you moderators are just as lenient as the rest, then it's hopeless - not that you actually could change anything from the forums, but leniency here and actively contributing to community decisions always influences decisions more than the average joe blogs

I literally pointed out how they’ve changed the way they’re doing it and you say that… well okay then

It's great they're knuckling down on issues, but when you're going far too excessive in one area and then a slap on the wrist in the next then clearly they have absolutely no idea what they're doing. Two tournament ban? Sheesh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on December 15, 2021, 02:28:22 pm
please keep going, i live solely for fse dramas
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:28:49 pm
So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 02:29:13 pm
please keep going, i live solely for fse dramas
dw i gotchu bro
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:31:02 pm
So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 15, 2021, 02:31:39 pm
Doxxing on FSE has never been treated lightly, some things like slurs yes they just result in a minor warning unless repeated (several players have been banned for constant homophobic or racist remarks as have they been for doxxing permanently). I don't see what this has to do with drama within tournaments however.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:33:53 pm
So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.

But this is EGS not FSE beef, it’s one of the first times they’ve had to make a decision like this and they’ve always been strict on trolling, just look at rikimaru being removed from the MVP standings last season, taking the decisions of one group of tournament admins and trying to make a point about something unrelated is no precedent at all
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:34:57 pm
Doxxing on FSE has never been treated lightly, some things like slurs yes they just result in a minor warning unless repeated (several players have been banned for constant homophobic or racist remarks as have they been for doxxing permanently). I don't see what this has to do with drama within tournaments however.

If I recall correctly, JoJo was actually considered to come back after around 6 months of not only doxxing, but ddosing and threatening - something which is almost certainly laughable. Isn't he also going to be unbanned from the forum he took personal information from soon? I mean that's what I heard anyways. On another note, like I said, HiReaper having a two tournament ban is really silly and should be reconsidered to a shorter ban.

So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.

But this is EGS not FSE beef, it’s one of the first times they’ve had to make a decision like this and they’ve always been strict on trolling, just look at rikimaru being removed from the MVP standings last season, taking the decisions of one group of tournament admins and trying to make a point about something unrelated is no precedent at all

Aaa yes, and what great way of making a decision by not allowing HiReaper to explain himself, that's exactly how it should start.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on December 15, 2021, 02:35:42 pm
Hireaper banned, meanwhile Ogok still at large
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 02:38:09 pm
I've always said that we should have went more down the native route and banned all the texture changes and things so we can stop all 'cheats' entirely tbh but everyone was against it. You say about known autoblockers but there is no 'real' way to prove this.
The only way to really fix this would be to go down a 3rd party anti cheat/process monitoring route. For those that have never needed to use it, back in the day ESL had a client which you had to have open when playing in a ESL tournament match which would monitor everything you have open on your machine and what it interracts with. But who in their right mind would undertake such a colossal task, nobody.

Plus people keep talking about NW being dead, if we did introduce something like that it would only proceed to kill it even further. Not sure people would really want the results of that.

If you hate how the communities run so much Fietta how about you actually try do something yourself for once rather than sitting on the forums all day complaining about how much better you are than the rest of this community lmao.
I agree. I had this conversation so many times with EIC. If you guys don't like something, pointing it out but then providing 0 input/resolutions to that issue accomplishes nothing.

The best thing EGS can do is try and make the circuit more inclusive to entice more people to take part. Rather than having younger, newer players that might potentially want to step into comp NW, or even existing ones for that matter just hit with spams of racial/homophobic slurs etc. pushing them away permenantly.

Change starts at the top, but considering the 'top' being you moderators are just as lenient as the rest, then it's hopeless - not that you actually could change anything from the forums, but leniency here and actively contributing to community decisions always influences decisions more than the average joe blogs
In every post you make Fietta I notice one thing, you never actually fucking say anything. What do you even want? What are you complaining about? I thought the argument was about people being TOO HARSH not lenient lol

If I recall correctly, JoJo was actually considered to come back after around 6 months of not only doxxing, but ddosing and threatening - something which is almost certainly laughable. Isn't he also going to be unbanned from the forum he took personal information from soon? I mean that's what I heard anyways. On another note, like I said, HiReaper having a two tournament ban is really silly and should be reconsidered to a shorter ban.
There's a reason why he stayed banned from Regimental tournaments, the same with Obelix. Jojo will be allowed to return mid next year as its been over 1.5 years by that point.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 15, 2021, 02:39:49 pm
Doxxing on FSE has never been treated lightly, some things like slurs yes they just result in a minor warning unless repeated (several players have been banned for constant homophobic or racist remarks as have they been for doxxing permanently). I don't see what this has to do with drama within tournaments however.

If I recall correctly, JoJo was actually considered to come back after around 6 months of not only doxxing, but ddosing and threatening - something which is almost certainly laughable. Isn't he also going to be unbanned from the forum he took personal information from soon? I mean that's what I heard anyways. On another note, like I said, HiReaper having a two tournament ban is really silly and should be reconsidered to a shorter ban.

So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.

But this is EGS not FSE beef, it’s one of the first times they’ve had to make a decision like this and they’ve always been strict on trolling, just look at rikimaru being removed from the MVP standings last season, taking the decisions of one group of tournament admins and trying to make a point about something unrelated is no precedent at all

Aaa yes, and what great way of making a decision by not allowing HiReaper to explain himself, that's exactly how it should start.
More information came to light on Jojo and the data breach, it was not as simple as it seemed and atm Jojo does not have a set unban date.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on December 15, 2021, 02:40:00 pm
Hireaper banned, meanwhile Ogok still at large
true crime
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:40:04 pm
JoJo was banned from a whole host of tournaments, he also apologised for what he did and sticks to his little group of frenchies, also as has already been said here hireaper could’ve literally just gone “I was dumb it was a bad choice sorry won’t happen again” and it would be sorted, he didn’t do that, this is the result.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:41:06 pm
Change starts at the top, but considering the 'top' being you moderators are just as lenient as the rest, then it's hopeless - not that you actually could change anything from the forums, but leniency here and actively contributing to community decisions always influences decisions more than the average joe blogs
In every post you make Fietta I notice one thing, you never actually fucking say anything. What do you even want? What are you complaining about? I thought the argument was about people being TOO HARSH not lenient lol

Classic, I've already replied to that point because Alf mentioned it and instead of you actually arguing that point, you're just trying to bring the original one down, stop being silly.

So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.

Here it is above considering you just completely skipped it out ^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 02:44:03 pm
Change starts at the top, but considering the 'top' being you moderators are just as lenient as the rest, then it's hopeless - not that you actually could change anything from the forums, but leniency here and actively contributing to community decisions always influences decisions more than the average joe blogs
In every post you make Fietta I notice one thing, you never actually fucking say anything. What do you even want? What are you complaining about? I thought the argument was about people being TOO HARSH not lenient lol

Classic, I've already replied to that point because Alf mentioned it and instead of you actually arguing that point, you're just trying to bring the original one down, stop being silly.
Its not my fault in the time it takes for me to write one post you retards have already spammed 10 more.

So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.
How we were supposed to get this from what you said is fucking mental. You made a long post about the hosts stepping over the line then made a different post about them being lenient. Where were we supposed to get that?

Maybe articulate yourself in one post instead of changing your mind 20 minutes later and making a totally different point.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:46:33 pm
Change starts at the top, but considering the 'top' being you moderators are just as lenient as the rest, then it's hopeless - not that you actually could change anything from the forums, but leniency here and actively contributing to community decisions always influences decisions more than the average joe blogs
In every post you make Fietta I notice one thing, you never actually fucking say anything. What do you even want? What are you complaining about? I thought the argument was about people being TOO HARSH not lenient lol

Classic, I've already replied to that point because Alf mentioned it and instead of you actually arguing that point, you're just trying to bring the original one down, stop being silly.
Its not my fault in the time it takes for me to write one post you retards have already spammed 10 more.

So now you’re saying they’re too lenient when you just said they’re too harsh?

Indeed; If you're actually understand what I'm writing, you'll realise that you should be making the right choices, being lenient in one area and then harsh in another makes absolutely no sense, punishment is fine but punishment should be the start, can't just pull some random period out your arse expecting it to be reasonable especially when that hasn't be set by some precedent.
How we were supposed to get this from what you said is fucking mental. You made a long post about the hosts stepping over the line then made a different post about them being lenient. Where were we supposed to get that?

Maybe articulate yourself in one post instead of changing your mind 20 minutes later and making a totally different point.

Alright, you clearly actually have no idea what I'm talking about - it's articulated perfectly, just because you don't quite grasp what it's saying because you're moronic, doesn't in any sense mean I'm changing my mind.

People are lenient > Bad - the majority of NW decisions
People are too harsh > Bad - the current EGS decision

People who make reasonable punishments > Good - still waiting for this one

The funniest part is, you know exactly what I'm talking about, you're just trying to act silly to strengthen your point, stop being silly and read.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:48:58 pm
Look, we don’t like each other, we very much don’t agree on many things, but I get your overall point of a set standard, however EGS standards have always been strict in my view and although others aren’t we can only take EGS into account as that’s the relevant tournament, if there was some “tournaments council” that decided punishments or something then yes there could be standardisation but I doubt that would happen
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 02:51:24 pm
Look, we don’t like each other, we very much don’t agree on many things, but I get your overall point of a set standard, however EGS standards have always been strict in my view and although others aren’t we can only take EGS into account as that’s the relevant tournament, if there was some “tournaments council” that decided punishments or something then yes there could be standardisation but I doubt that would happen

To be honest, for larger tournaments having set administration depending on how reputable and experienced someone is would be desirable; especially considering you have people like Wursti as an administrator who's actively been toxic in this tournament, for him to then decide what's best for someone else being toxic? Makes absolutely no sense.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 02:52:52 pm
Alright, you clearly actually have no idea what I'm talking about - it's articulated perfectly, just because you don't quite grasp what it's saying because you're moronic, doesn't in any sense mean I'm changing my mind.

People are lenient > Bad - the majority of NW decisions
People are too harsh > Bad - the current EGS decision

People who make reasonable punishments > Good - still waiting for this one

The funniest part is, you know exactly what I'm talking about, you're just trying to act silly to strengthen your point, stop being silly and read.
Right, well I went back and read what you said and I still think you are a fucking plonker.

Why you are bringing up autoblockers and shit who as you very well know, we cannot fucking do anything about it without them literally being as stupid as a certain 91st member who we all know and love that posted all those screenshots of him using autoblock and got memory hole'd!

Again Fietta you have yet to address anything we have said. What is your solution for the Autoblockers, people ddosing, doxxing etc. At the moment all you have said is "REEE BAD HOSTS"

To be honest, for larger tournaments having set administration depending on how reputable and experienced someone is would be desirable; especially considering you have people like Wursti as an administrator who's actively been toxic in this tournament, for him to then decide what's best for someone else being toxic? Makes absolutely no sense.
Now this is a point I can get behind.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on December 15, 2021, 02:54:31 pm
These are all great posts but change nothing.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 02:55:39 pm
These are all great posts but change nothing.
like your shitty servers...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 02:56:07 pm
These are all great posts but change nothing.

Much like the CR does
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 02:58:03 pm
These are all great posts but change nothing.
he's got you there

Much like the CR does
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on December 15, 2021, 02:58:08 pm
These are all great posts but change nothing.
like your shitty servers...
EGS is played on my servers :3

Don't blame my servers cause you didn't get past play offs  :-*

These are all great posts but change nothing.

Much like the CR does
Betrayed by my habibi....
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on December 15, 2021, 02:58:59 pm
without them literally being as stupid as a certain 91st member who we all know and love that posted all those screenshots of him using autoblock and got memory hole'd!

smh, flaming tardet like that...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 03:00:11 pm
These are all great posts but change nothing.
like your shitty servers...
EGS is played on my servers :3

Don't blame my servers cause you didn't get past play offs  :-*
I made no reference to Gordon's their performance, but yes they're still really shit!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 03:00:30 pm
Why you are bringing up autoblockers and shit who as you very well know, we cannot fucking do anything about it without them literally being as stupid as a certain 91st member who we all know and love that posted all those screenshots of him using autoblock and got memory hole'd!

Again Fietta you have yet to address anything we have said. What is your solution for the Autoblockers, people ddosing, doxxing etc. At the moment all you have said is "REEE BAD HOSTS"

Autoblocking is a bit more complex, however, returning to classic methodologies COULD at least help, people who're suspected of autoblocking should record their matches, if for some reason they're not autoblocking but are blocking much worse than they're used to, then you can make a decision after numerous samples, something that's happened in Native before, we could also talk about how no one would be 'willing' to do that, however, numerous clips have been watched and I'm sure someone would be up for taking the job of watching 4 or 5 people's videos. This could also be done for pretty much any cheat - the only issue is if it can be toggled, but based on numerous samples on how they've played, you can have an idea if they've got it on or not, but obviously isn't the BEST solution.

Ddosing and Doxxing is simple; these people shouldn't really be welcome into the community, so these people should have harsher punishments or just cancelled altogether depending on severity; Obelix has came back to the community like 5 times before people finally realised and hit the nail on the head, something which should've been done on his first or second occurrence. Obviously you can't just 'remove' someone from the community, but having respectable and reputable tournament administrators who've actively contributed without being toxic and are known to make impartial decisions, then those are the people who could ban them from not only one tournament but for numerous tournaments to come. <- This is currently what's happening, but not to the extent it should, there's always on-going debates in administration teams by some questionable administrators to allow the same people back in, and once they're back in they're back involved, something that would be mitigated in a dedicated adjudicating team, voted in by well, the community, with reason.

Not that any of this is a solution, but it's a start and is all up for discussion - not that this is the right place for the discussion to happen or for this post, but there we are.

HiReaper should probably recieve a one tournament ban or even a warning, 'guilty by association'; he may have not done the TK, but actively contributing to the trolling by recording but also apparently 'telling' what that person should do, should deserve some punishment. Having a three-point warning system before a match ban might be worth looking in to; simple things like not using their community name when asked for statistic reasons but also trying to abuse the statistics by killing before the match is called at spawn, should receive punishment all the same.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on December 15, 2021, 03:09:40 pm
Why you are bringing up autoblockers and shit who as you very well know, we cannot fucking do anything about it without them literally being as stupid as a certain 91st member who we all know and love that posted all those screenshots of him using autoblock and got memory hole'd!

Again Fietta you have yet to address anything we have said. What is your solution for the Autoblockers, people ddosing, doxxing etc. At the moment all you have said is "REEE BAD HOSTS"

Autoblocking is a bit more complex, however, returning to classic methodologies COULD at least help, people who're suspected of autoblocking should record their matches, if for some reason they're not autoblocking but are blocking much worse than they're used to, then you can make a decision after numerous samples, something that's happened in Native before, we could also talk about how no one would be 'willing' to do that, however, numerous clips have been watched and I'm sure someone would be up for taking the job of watching 4 or 5 people's videos. This could also be done for pretty much any cheat - the only issue is if it can be toggled, but based on numerous samples on how they've played, you can have an idea if they've got it on or not, but obviously isn't the BEST solution.

Ddosing and Doxxing is simple; these people shouldn't really be welcome into the community, so these people should have harsher punishments or just cancelled altogether depending on severity; Obelix has came back to the community like 5 times before people finally realised and hit the nail on the head, something which should've been done on his first or second occurrence. Obviously you can't just 'remove' someone from the community, but having respectable and reputable tournament administrators who've actively contributed without being toxic and are known to make impartial decisions, then those are the people who could ban them from not only one tournament but for numerous tournaments to come. <- This is currently what's happening, but not to the extent it should, there's always on-going debates in administration teams by some questionable administrators to allow the same people back in, and once they're back in they're back involved, something that would be mitigated in a dedicated adjudicating team, voted in by well, the community, with reason.

Not that any of this is a solution, but it's a start.

Not that this isn't a good relevant discussion but this is the EGS discussion thread and you can clearly see we have already outlawed everything you have mentioned and have taken time to look into suspected autoblockers and texture cheaters even forcing some to take screenshots and send to the admin on request (without causing a scene) as well as recordings. Which is why you may have not noticed.  We've kept a harsh strict rule set, throughout and this has been far better and consistent then any other tournaments before.

As far as I'm aware the policy for EGS players is you need to not be banned from FSE to participate, I can't however speak for some actions of the founder Voluble who may or may not have allowed some of them to play after an apology\discussion on his personal behalf.

But overall EGS has and is acting in the best professional manner we can purely based on volunteers no less, again in regards to Wursti this is a matter the admin team have personally dealt with and Wursti is currently only in charge of running the statistics as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 03:13:32 pm
I have seen, but punishment for not providing the records should be apparent, asking is different from enforcing. EGS in terms of ruleset and cracking down on issues is for sure a step forward, though the issue with punishments and the potential recruitment of some questionable administrators in the first place doesn't help that at all.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on December 15, 2021, 03:14:50 pm
Ah yea the questionable admin will then not do stats anymore cuz hes too questionable

Ty for making me aware of your very valuable opinion :D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 15, 2021, 03:16:46 pm
Ah yea the questionable admin will then not do stats anymore cuz hes too questionable

Ty for making me aware of your opinion :D

Was that a 'got you' comment - people who contribute to EGS shouldn't be administrators anyways, administrators should be the people who look after the tournament, make decisions, if at all you're doing the statistics then there should be a separate role for that, I'm not doubting your ability to produce great statistics, but that doesn't mean you're a great admin. You can't be telling me that your toxicity would deem you fit for administration in the first place, wouldn't make much sense from an administrative point of view, but your active contribution with statistics certainly deserves praise.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on December 15, 2021, 03:26:12 pm
Ah yea the questionable admin will then not do stats anymore cuz hes too questionable

Ty for making me aware of your very valuable opinion :D
oh yeah let's act like 10yo kids, why not
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on December 15, 2021, 03:30:32 pm
Bring back EIS
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 03:31:17 pm
Bring back EIS
We will just watch a stream and then nothing happens afterwards...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Shadey on December 15, 2021, 03:31:20 pm
Justice for wursti against the skeying f*gg0tz
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on December 15, 2021, 03:33:27 pm
(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/1f20af5cd4aba57020d3925e196466f7.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 03:34:19 pm
Justice for wursti against the skeying f*gg0tz
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 03:46:18 pm
Bring back EIS
We will just watch a stream and then nothing happens afterwards...
Wrong tourney mongo
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Snowwi on December 15, 2021, 03:55:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHmmjnEdtx8
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on December 15, 2021, 04:04:53 pm
I think locking a thread is a cop out but these posts aren't constructive. Not much of a discussion anymore....
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 04:05:11 pm
Bring back EIS
We will just watch a stream and then nothing happens afterwards...
Wrong tourney mongo
Not my fault every shit tourney starts with E
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on December 15, 2021, 04:40:17 pm
Firstly, I have apologised to darktemplar on steam now, so chill.

I want to also apologise for my troll sarcastic comments on fse yesterday. I was just pissed off after the announcement and wanted to shitpost on FSE.

I'm also sorry for uploading that vid of the rule breaking during the EGS tournament, it was wrong and I shouldn't have done that(especially with my experience with playing tournaments as well)

In the future, to avoid these situations, there really needs to be better communication. How can there be time to analyse the vid, consult the admin team and then go ahead with the ban all the while not talking to me through steam?

There should also be some sort of extra transfer for coco (love him or hate him). Animals is literally down to only 3 players who can play. Its hugely unfair on him.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 15, 2021, 04:45:43 pm
Google translate is gonna get a fucking hammering later. As there is no way I’m reading all of that shit. You guys are giving tardet a run for his money. Jesus Christ. Please keep your posts within 3900 characters as that is the limit for Google translate!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 15, 2021, 04:53:34 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals (League 2 looks fine to me, but having half the active League 1 admin team being members of the same team seems a bit stupid).

Also it's kind of necessary to have a Head Admin who is capable of spending about a minute of their busy day responding to an active shitshow going on in their own tournament. This doesn't seem like an unreasonable request in the slightest.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 15, 2021, 04:55:24 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals.

Also it's kind of necessary to have a Head Admin who is capable of spending about a minute of their busy day responding to an active shitshow going on in their own tournament. This doesn't seem like an unreasonable request in the slightest.
How about you do it?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Shadey on December 15, 2021, 04:57:02 pm
If only people could just, yaknow, not act like retards.

Problem solved you’re welcome.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 15, 2021, 04:57:47 pm
So to give a suggestion as to how something could change, I ought to do it myself? hmm
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on December 15, 2021, 04:59:14 pm
NW Elitism  ::)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on December 15, 2021, 05:16:49 pm
Elitist
Gatekeepers
Shutting down criticism

Hmm
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 15, 2021, 05:24:14 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals.

Many people who are arguing against hireaper’s ban are also friends of his? Apart from fietta I don’t think anyone who’s not friends with hireaper has actually complained while many non EGS admins have argued that punishment is valid.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on December 15, 2021, 05:29:01 pm
I FUCKING HATE HIREAPER

Please unban him :)

There u go
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on December 15, 2021, 05:30:35 pm
If only people could just, yaknow, not act like retards.

Problem solved you’re welcome.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: crazypro25. on December 15, 2021, 05:34:55 pm
Firstly, I have apologised to darktemplar on steam now, so chill.

I want to also apologise for my troll sarcastic comments on fse yesterday. I was just pissed off after the announcement and wanted to shitpost on FSE.

I'm also sorry for uploading that vid of the rule breaking during the EGS tournament, it was wrong and I shouldn't have done that(especially with my experience with playing tournaments as well)

In the future, to avoid these situations, there really needs to be better communication. How can there be time to analyse the vid, consult the admin team and then go ahead with the ban all the while not talking to me through steam?

There should also be some sort of extra transfer for coco (love him or hate him). Animals is literally down to only 3 players who can play. Its hugely unfair on him.

(https://i.imgur.com/0oHF8jY.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on December 15, 2021, 05:42:30 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals (League 2 looks fine to me, but having half the active League 1 admin team being members of the same team seems a bit stupid).

Also it's kind of necessary to have a Head Admin who is capable of spending about a minute of their busy day responding to an active shitshow going on in their own tournament. This doesn't seem like an unreasonable request in the slightest.

League 1 admin team does not consist of more then half of the same team, Wursti now in statistics and DT is a head admin. And id like to remind you we are volunteering our time to do all the thread and hosting work, are you paying DT to answer all of your requests? No. So I wouldn't be so rude about it. Espically considering he gave away 1000 euros of his own money for the last prizepool!

Let me break it down for you (btw we are not all best mates lol  ;D):

Golden - 10c
Blacktham - Enigma
Chuckster - Envy
Herishey - Invictus
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 05:44:56 pm
None of them like golden but he’s a sweetheart
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 05:45:05 pm
 « Last Edit: Today at 05:44:15 pm by Golden. »

Blacktham - Engima

OMEGALUL
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on December 15, 2021, 05:46:02 pm
« Last Edit: Today at 05:44:15 pm by Golden. »

Blacktham - Engima

OMEGALUL

im ill leave me alone
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on December 15, 2021, 05:46:36 pm
« Last Edit: Today at 05:44:15 pm by Golden. »

Blacktham - Engima

OMEGALUL
hi
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on December 15, 2021, 05:47:41 pm
Either Way does not constitute half the admin team, an entirely stupid point.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on December 15, 2021, 05:48:14 pm
I FUCKING HATE HIREAPER

Please unban him :)

There u go
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on December 15, 2021, 05:50:56 pm
We need league 2 admins from north America. Specifically ones whose name starts with M and ends with a Y. Also has a I K and E in the middle.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 15, 2021, 05:52:42 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals (League 2 looks fine to me, but having half the active League 1 admin team being members of the same team seems a bit stupid).

Also it's kind of necessary to have a Head Admin who is capable of spending about a minute of their busy day responding to an active shitshow going on in their own tournament. This doesn't seem like an unreasonable request in the slightest.

League 1 admin team does not consist of more then half of the same team, Wursti now in statistics and DT is a head admin. And id like to remind you we are volunteering our time to do all the thread and hosting work, are you paying DT to answer all of your requests? No. So I wouldn't be so rude about it. Espically considering he gave away 1000 euros of his own money for the last prizepool!

Let me break it down for you (btw we are not all best mates lol  ;D):

Golden - 10c
Blacktham - Enigma
Chuckster - Envy
Herishey - Invictus

Was Wursti not involved at all in the decision a few days ago? And DarkTemplar either? I should have stated Admin team since I'm assuming both Head Admins and those who have posted who happen to also be admins i.e. Blacktham and Wursti, were also involved in this decision.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on December 15, 2021, 05:53:27 pm
so finally we just have a bunch of retarded germans who want ppl to suck their dick to unban a guy. The guys are so insecure that they try to fuck teams for egs cuz after all let's keep going on a rigged shit where the head admins are changing groups to get the easiest way to go to final. Thx to germans to be that clever
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 15, 2021, 05:56:26 pm
so finally we just have a bunch of retarded germans who want ppl to suck their dick to unban a guy. The guys are so insecure that they try to fuck teams for egs
If said admins were doing anything of what you’ve said above, How would it benefit them?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on December 15, 2021, 05:58:01 pm
so finally we just have a bunch of retarded germans who want ppl to suck their dick to unban a guy. The guys are so insecure that they try to fuck teams for egs
If said admins were doing anything of what you’ve said above, How would it benefit them?
wait u trying to make a joke rn or ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 15, 2021, 05:59:43 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals.

Many people who are arguing against hireaper’s ban are also friends of his? Apart from fietta I don’t think anyone who’s not friends with hireaper has actually complained while many non EGS admins have argued that punishment is valid.

That's true, but the arguments for why the ban is excessive stand on their own. I think the admins have been impartial (I don't believe they have some kind of agenda against HiReaper), but I can't say they have been consistent as Fietta has stated.

Also, I'm not friends with HiReaper, dudes a complete weirdo
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on December 15, 2021, 06:00:19 pm
Also, I'm not friends with HiReaper, dudes a complete weirdo
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nightwing on December 15, 2021, 06:04:56 pm
so finally we just have a bunch of retarded germans who want ppl to suck their dick to unban a guy. The guys are so insecure that they try to fuck teams for egs
If said admins were doing anything of what you%u2019ve said above, How would it benefit them?
I think he is talking about the miscommunication when Vol left the admin team but agreed before that on changing the knockout stage ( 1st overall doesn't have to play the 3rd over all one). I don't know how much Red is informed about that, but what I have heard is that neither DT or Wursti knew from what Vol agreed on. Nevertheless they still changed it after they heard about what Vol agreed on.

But yeah germans bad, ban all germans pls I don't like them, only rigging and starting world wars!

Spoiler
I'm btw dutch now   8)
[close]
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on December 15, 2021, 06:14:29 pm
so finally we just have a bunch of retarded germans who want ppl to suck their dick to unban a guy. The guys are so insecure that they try to fuck teams for egs
If said admins were doing anything of what you%u2019ve said above, How would it benefit them?

Spoiler
I'm btw dutch now   8)
[close]
Good, I was looking for someone to replace Rikus 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on December 15, 2021, 06:18:50 pm
so finally we just have a bunch of retarded germans who want ppl to suck their dick to unban a guy. The guys are so insecure that they try to fuck teams for egs cuz after all let's keep going on a rigged shit where the head admins are changing groups to get the easiest way to go to final. Thx to germans to be that clever
Ah yeah it's definitely just the germans from ENIGMA, we don't discuss things in the groupchat, we just do what we want and what benefits us the most...
Just a qick tip to look less retardet on fse: Reread and rethink things, before you actually post something!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 15, 2021, 06:23:14 pm
The decision is clearly not gonna change, so stop bickering now ladies. Put the handbags down, go back to your corner and suck on your dummies.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 15, 2021, 06:36:35 pm
The decision is clearly not gonna change, so stop bickering now ladies. Put the handbags down, go back to your corner and suck on your dummies.
ill smack the shit out of you with my handbag
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 15, 2021, 06:58:09 pm
The decision is clearly not gonna change, so stop bickering now ladies. Put the handbags down, go back to your corner and suck on your dummies.
ill smack the shit out of you with my handbag
Go on
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Elsse on December 15, 2021, 08:00:54 pm
yes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on December 15, 2021, 08:02:26 pm
yes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on December 15, 2021, 10:46:50 pm
Maybe we should stratify the admin team next EGS? Not have a bunch of mates who likely all have the same opinion on particular situations and individuals (League 2 looks fine to me, but having half the active League 1 admin team being members of the same team seems a bit stupid).

Also it's kind of necessary to have a Head Admin who is capable of spending about a minute of their busy day responding to an active shitshow going on in their own tournament. This doesn't seem like an unreasonable request in the slightest.
Not your organisation to decide who runs it. EGS to date is unique and built by me and dark who know how to build a admin team to get things done. I’d rather not see some random person voted into admin role. Admin team is fine and if you wanna apply to be a admin you are to use the template on the admin team thread and then you say why you deserve it. Little drama like this has been blown out of proportion but the admin team is not the issue lmao.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on December 15, 2021, 10:54:08 pm
Overall though punishment is necessary to set a example! As Stockholm said: no rules = ppl doing what they want! HiReaper most certainly deserves a tournament ban at minimum and yes I do agree that maybe the review prior to the ban could of been more in depth. Maybe the resolution from this is to make a unban request sub thread of some kind. I know a lot of people appreciate EGS and everything it stands for but what would be nice is to see Atleast half of the fse keyboard warriors to actually join EGS and start actually helping rather than bitching. If people have the time to complain then actually do something rather than whining! Apply to be admin on the other thread and go from there! Simples! Don’t! Be! Backseat! Critics! up the villa
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 11:14:04 pm
Overall though punishment is necessary to set a example! As Stockholm said: no rules = ppl doing what they want! HiReaper most certainly deserves a tournament ban at minimum and yes I do agree that maybe the review prior to the ban could of been more in depth. Maybe the resolution from this is to make a unban request sub thread of some kind. I know a lot of people appreciate EGS and everything it stands for but what would be nice is to see Atleast half of the fse keyboard warriors to actually join EGS and start actually helping rather than bitching. If people have the time to complain then actually do something rather than whining! Apply to be admin on the other thread and go from there! Simples! Don’t! Be! Backseat! Critics! up the villa
For EIC we didn't have a page for unbans but on the google doc we had it listed all players who had some form of match ban (except for regimental transfers) and why it was done, might be worth doing something like that for EGS considering the size of it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on December 15, 2021, 11:18:44 pm
Overall though punishment is necessary to set a example! As Stockholm said: no rules = ppl doing what they want! HiReaper most certainly deserves a tournament ban at minimum and yes I do agree that maybe the review prior to the ban could of been more in depth. Maybe the resolution from this is to make a unban request sub thread of some kind. I know a lot of people appreciate EGS and everything it stands for but what would be nice is to see Atleast half of the fse keyboard warriors to actually join EGS and start actually helping rather than bitching. If people have the time to complain then actually do something rather than whining! Apply to be admin on the other thread and go from there! Simples! Don’t! Be! Backseat! Critics! up the villa
For EIC we didn't have a page for unbans but on the google doc we had it listed all players who had some form of match ban (except for regimental transfers) and why it was done, might be worth doing something like that for EGS considering the size of it.
Yeah defo need some form of appeal or ban review page aswell dedicated to it but I think properly reviewing footage and info and punishments is needed aswell Can do a EGS court and you can stream it and I will be head judge!!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 15, 2021, 11:28:32 pm
Lmfao anything for content I am drier than the sahara desert
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 16, 2021, 12:15:39 am
Lmfao anything for content I am drier than the sahara desert
Drier than Ghandi’s flip flop
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 16, 2021, 12:34:27 am
Lmfao anything for content I am drier than the sahara desert
Drier than Ghandi’s flip flop

Drier than a camel's pussy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on December 16, 2021, 01:45:02 am
Lmfao anything for content I am drier than the sahara desert
Drier than Ghandi’s flip flop
Where have I heard that before, sounds unbelievably familiar to NW
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on December 16, 2021, 04:36:46 am
Lmfao anything for content I am drier than the sahara desert
Drier than Ghandi’s flip flop
Where have I heard that before, sounds unbelievably familiar to NW

The reality show hosts same huge IQ people NW has, you're close
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kong on December 18, 2021, 12:03:56 pm
update standings for league 2 ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on December 24, 2021, 10:35:04 pm
Merry Christmas everyone x
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on December 25, 2021, 09:03:39 pm
Merry Christmas everyone x
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Moi~ on December 25, 2021, 09:40:41 pm
Merry Christmas everyone x
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Lone on January 04, 2022, 02:27:08 pm
muha=pattern master
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on January 04, 2022, 02:30:20 pm
muha=pattern master
A U D I
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Muhataa on January 04, 2022, 02:34:17 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9Igy0AfXoNMx2dmU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: StockholmDE on January 04, 2022, 02:47:48 pm
vegi = retard master
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on January 04, 2022, 02:56:40 pm
vegi = retard master
Kneel to your king and do not insult him
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on January 04, 2022, 04:12:36 pm
vegi = retard master
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Lone on January 04, 2022, 07:06:09 pm
vegi = retard master
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Melsyo on January 06, 2022, 08:43:19 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9Igy0AfXoNMx2dmU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on January 09, 2022, 08:22:55 pm
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ZeroNight on January 09, 2022, 08:44:05 pm
Spoiler
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
[close]

if you look at the date you would notice that this happend before we played the last tournament of last year, that means he already had his 1 tournament ban or he would've played for us ::) :-X
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on January 09, 2022, 08:55:31 pm
narrow literally played every tourny with us so he hasnt been banned for a tourny man
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on January 09, 2022, 08:56:08 pm
Spoiler
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
[close]

if you look at the date you would notice that this happend before we played the last tournament of last year, that means he already had his 1 tournament ban or he would've played for us ::) :-X

He switched team and the wrong format was used (no Animals transfer out) to execute the transfer, he played with us in Tourney 1, 2, and 3, so he should be banned for the 4th tournament (tonights one).

Am I missing your point here?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ZeroNight on January 09, 2022, 08:58:03 pm
Spoiler
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
[close]

if you look at the date you would notice that this happend before we played the last tournament of last year, that means he already had his 1 tournament ban or he would've played for us ::) :-X

He switched team and the wrong format was used (no Animals transfer out) to execute the transfer, he played with us in Tourney 1, 2, and 3, so he should be banned for the 4th tournament (tonights one).

Am I missing your point here?

tbf i wasn't aware that he played with you in the last tournament
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on January 09, 2022, 09:12:07 pm
Spoiler
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
[close]

if you look at the date you would notice that this happend before we played the last tournament of last year, that means he already had his 1 tournament ban or he would've played for us ::) :-X

He switched team and the wrong format was used (no Animals transfer out) to execute the transfer, he played with us in Tourney 1, 2, and 3, so he should be banned for the 4th tournament (tonights one).

Am I missing your point here?
I discussed this with Vol and the other organisers both yesterday and another day a few weeks back. It was agreed Narrow can play as it wasn't for a few days after he left Animals that I transferred him in and it was discussed with Coco first.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 09, 2022, 09:56:32 pm
rigged
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on January 10, 2022, 04:05:34 pm
Spoiler
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
[close]

if you look at the date you would notice that this happend before we played the last tournament of last year, that means he already had his 1 tournament ban or he would've played for us ::) :-X

He switched team and the wrong format was used (no Animals transfer out) to execute the transfer, he played with us in Tourney 1, 2, and 3, so he should be banned for the 4th tournament (tonights one).

Am I missing your point here?
I discussed this with Vol and the other organisers both yesterday and another day a few weeks back. It was agreed Narrow can play as it wasn't for a few days after he left Animals that I transferred him in and it was discussed with Coco first.
so ye the rules dont work when it's ur team nice brain man
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on January 10, 2022, 04:09:56 pm
Spoiler
Team Name: Invictus
Transfer In:

351969 #Narrow

I'll update myself so dw.

No transfer out from Animals at the time. No tournament ban. Ok.

Team Name: Animals
Transfer IN:

@8768 #Márquez #Spain
@1513490 #Zenon# Polish
@ 313137#Slavic# Macedonian
Leads to:
Hydra has disbanded and therefore all players on the roster currently will be banned for the tournament today then they are free to play in the 6v6 in two weeks time. Also Zenon and Marquez will receive a one tournament ban each for leaving Envy without being transferred out of the team, as per our rules. Goodluck tonight to all teams attending tonight even with a few teams not showing, but take this chance to gain some points and creep into those playoff spots! ~Vol

Can you explain this a bit more?
[close]

if you look at the date you would notice that this happend before we played the last tournament of last year, that means he already had his 1 tournament ban or he would've played for us ::) :-X

He switched team and the wrong format was used (no Animals transfer out) to execute the transfer, he played with us in Tourney 1, 2, and 3, so he should be banned for the 4th tournament (tonights one).

Am I missing your point here?
I discussed this with Vol and the other organisers both yesterday and another day a few weeks back. It was agreed Narrow can play as it wasn't for a few days after he left Animals that I transferred him in and it was discussed with Coco first.
so ye the rules dont work when it's ur team nice brain man
Nothing to do with me, i've always found these transfer rules a bit unclear that's why I asked all the other organisers.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on January 10, 2022, 04:10:41 pm
rigged
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 25, 2022, 10:13:31 pm
I don't hold Janne dear in my heart but the ban is awfully disproportionate despite what the Admin Team may say.

Yes, the muskets were re-skinned but I don't see how it can in any way give him an advantage or whatever, it's not like the bright yellow musket pack we used to see

We've had enough teams drop out of the tournament, for the sake of the competitive aspect of the League 1 tournament, you can't deal with this situation as if it had happened in a 20 active teams league/tournament


ALSO just like Janne wrote, if you truly cared about it in the first place, you would've asked for random screenshots of X player POV, which hasn't been done this season in league 1
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Maple™ on January 25, 2022, 10:14:22 pm
since you banned texture mods are you also going to ban 144hz monitors are mouses where you can change DPI/Polling rate? Those are also a competitive advantage outside of the NW client.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John F. Kennedy on January 25, 2022, 10:14:37 pm
I don't hold Janne dear in my heart but the ban is awfully disproportionate despite what the Admin Team may say.

Yes, the muskets were re-skinned but I don't see how it can in any way give him an advantage or whatever, it's not like the bright yellow musket pack we used to see

We've had enough teams drop out of the tournament, for the sake of the competitive aspect of the League 1 tournament, you can't deal with this situation as if it had happened in a 20 active teams league/tournament


ALSO just like Janne wrote, if you truly cared about it in the first place, you would've asked for random screenshots of X player POV, which hasn't been done this season in league 1
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on January 25, 2022, 10:21:49 pm
send me textures pls
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on January 25, 2022, 10:30:40 pm
Lets just collectively ignore rules, shall we?

I understand your points guys. The problem here is the following rule:
Spoiler

Tournament Rules


• Melee speed will be medium
• Bayonet players must use the Line Infantry class
• Stay in Spectator while not playing a match (REQUIRED)
• Matches
   ○ Group-Stage matches aswell as Round 1 of Playoffs (20 Teams) will be ft5
   ○ Round 2, Semis and Bronze matches will be ft7
   ○ Finals will be ft10
• Coloured musket texture packs will be banned and punishments will be handed out for people caught using them
• Clearly display your COMMUNITY NAME  in game aswell
as providing correct GUIDs
• If a player gets caught cheating (or using a wrong ID)
   ○ The team will get a one tournament ban
   ○ The player will be banned for the whole season
• If a team gets disqualified and got placed 1st - 4th, the lower placed team will take their place
   ○ All teams will get points for a win at the groupstage and knockouts if they lost
against the disqualified team.
• If a team is tied in groupstages, the 1st tie-breaker will be total points, then 2nd tie-breaker would be points difference,
[close]

It doesnt matter whether the muskets are slightly changed or just a little bit brighter. Yes, we could enforce the rules even more and could ask several people, who used these texture pack in the past, to take screenshots, but we dont have the capacity of admins to do so. People just complain and cry instead of activly participating in the well being of the series. We dont like it either, that teams drop out, but rules are rules. This community has honestly one of the shittiest mentalities i've ever seen. Even the League or CSGO community cries less. Sometime people here be like: "OMG they do something against me or my team, which i find absolutely unfair, even though the rules are set and the explanation is reasoning. Lets just dont participate anymore haha. Only teams like us keep the competetiveness up and the series alive". I neither have a problem with Janne nor know him, so I am very neutral on this one. If someone uploads a youtube videos, playing EGS/watching the same tournament the person played in, is honestley just dumb. I know it may sound hard, but in the end the same happend to HiReaper. Uploading this shit, at a tournament, that is probably more strict than others, is just rash.

We're free for the discussion. We always try to handle situations as neutral as possible, especially if there are several people in an admin team. How do you expect us to react on such occasions? Close our eyes and be like: "Oh, welp. This guy did stupid things, but hey lets just ignore the fact he did this since probably tournament 1". If Janne didnt upload videos during the period of EGS S3 while using the texture pack he would've only gotten an one tournament ban. Since he also uploaded videos, when he also participated in 45thN event, using the texture pack it was a done deal, which showed he already used it in other tournaments. I dont think, that someone uninstalls these texture packs before a tournament and reinstalls them afterwards.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on January 25, 2022, 10:38:35 pm
"but we dont have the capacity of admins to do so. "

my god you guys are incompetent xD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on January 25, 2022, 10:40:08 pm
"but we dont have the capacity of admins to do so. "

my god you guys are incompetent xD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on January 25, 2022, 10:42:08 pm
People just complain and cry instead of activly participating in the well being of the series

"but we dont have the capacity of admins to do so. "

my god you guys are incompetent xD

sums it up I guess.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 25, 2022, 10:53:56 pm
The thing is, I wouldn't give a shit normally BUT there are situations where you just cannot blindly follow rules. This is literally the same IRL, in jobs, etc. There will be times and situations where you have to bend the rules (because I didn't make this clear, I do think this is a proportionate punishment BUT not in this situation).

This is legit the first time anyone complained about anything since the beginning of the League (for the League 1 at least, cause yes people did complain about the HiReaper situation) so I can hardly imagine why it made sense to write that part "People just complain and cry instead of activly participating in the well being of the series." as everything as been going smoothly for the past tournaments (again, solely speaking for the L1 btw, and that's thanks to the hard working admins).

This part "Sometime people here be like: "OMG they do something against me or my team, which i find absolutely unfair, even though the rules are set and the explanation is reasoning. Lets just dont participate anymore haha. Only teams like us keep the competetiveness up and the series alive"" makes even less sense as there are nobody else from DAB but Janne that complained about the punishment, it has only been people from other teams. I don't see how that is seen as a shitty mentality to want to keep the scene competitive by not having another team drop out


Nothing personal nor angry typing, I do respect the decision, but in my opinion it just hurts the community more than it benefits it in that very situation
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gi on January 25, 2022, 10:56:05 pm
This tournament needs more bans and less teams, please continue
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on January 25, 2022, 11:11:58 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on January 26, 2022, 01:40:06 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating

But it should. You either ban all musket texture mods or none, there can't be any in-between

Though I must agree with this
"but we dont have the capacity of admins to do so. "

my god you guys are incompetent xD

It's not that hard to ask a player to make a screenshot now, cmon ^^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on January 26, 2022, 01:55:10 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating

But it should. You either ban all musket texture mods or none, there can't be any in-between

why ? i think you can clearly differentiate people who try to abuse them to get some advantage, although a negligible one.  it's a pretty dumb rule that clearly was never taken seriously, nobody ever seemed to enforce it so i thought people just didn't care anymore. anyways go ahead jannies and ruin your tournament for the sake of feeling like a big boy on the internet.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: crazypro25. on January 26, 2022, 02:04:21 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating
https://youtu.be/S7h5yJImSEw
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 03:17:40 pm
I honestly never understood why people always want to enforce rules to the letter, it just tend to create stupid situations. I get that in a situation where there is too many things happening to make case by case "judgement" it's too complicated but it's not like you have a lot of those to deal with... imo checking if it's clearly used to give an advantage or not then deciding if it's ban worthy(and clearly asking the guy to remove the skin regardless) is a smarter process. Just going on like THE RULES ARE THE RULES doesn't make sense to me. No ruleset is perfect and if you find something that doesn't seem that smart might as well change it. I mean it's not an international court of law you don't need to be that stubborn on rule enforcing (only defending janne because we secretly have an affair but keep it a secret).
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on January 26, 2022, 04:22:00 pm
I honestly never understood why people always want to enforce rules to the letter, it just tend to create stupid situations. I get that in a situation where there is too many things happening to make case by case "judgement" it's too complicated but it's not like you have a lot of those to deal with... imo checking if it's clearly used to give an advantage or not then deciding if it's ban worthy(and clearly asking the guy to remove the skin regardless) is a smarter process. Just going on like THE RULES ARE THE RULES doesn't make sense to me. No ruleset is perfect and if you find something that doesn't seem that smart might as well change it. I mean it's not an international court of law you don't need to be that stubborn on rule enforcing (only defending janne because we secretly have an affair but keep it a secret).
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ZeroNight on January 26, 2022, 05:09:37 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating

But it should. You either ban all musket texture mods or none, there can't be any in-between

why ? i think you can clearly differentiate people who try to abuse them to get some advantage, although a negligible one.  it's a pretty dumb rule that clearly was never taken seriously, nobody ever seemed to enforce it so i thought people just didn't care anymore. anyways go ahead jannies and ruin your tournament for the sake of feeling like a big boy on the internet.

But why would you use them then if not to get an advantage, i see no point i people saying "yea i dont use them to get some advantage" when it is clear that you somehow get a advantage out of them. You dont use them because it looks good.  ::)

Btw..i still have to agree with Nock that we lost to many teams for it to even be worth at this point

Edit: blind idiot
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on January 26, 2022, 05:13:54 pm
they use it because it's good chat
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on January 26, 2022, 05:14:27 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating

But it should. You either ban all musket texture mods or none, there can't be any in-between

why ? i think you can clearly differentiate people who try to abuse them to get some advantage, although a negligible one.  it's a pretty dumb rule that clearly was never taken seriously, nobody ever seemed to enforce it so i thought people just didn't care anymore. anyways go ahead jannies and ruin your tournament for the sake of feeling like a big boy on the internet.

But why would you use them then if not to get an advantage, i see no point i people saying "yea i dont use them to get some advantage" when it is clear that you somehow get a advantage out of them. You dont use them because it looks good.  ::)

Btw..i still have to agree with Nock that we lost to many teams for it to even be worth at this point

no, i do like the look of my french textures, you probably can't see from the videos but it's got nice anime faces :D
the british textures i accidentally fucked up but never cba to fix them. the bayonets literally pitch black, it was never designed to gain any advantage. if i wanted to use textures as an advantage i would just use my yellow bayonets.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on January 26, 2022, 05:15:20 pm
I honestly never understood why people always want to enforce rules to the letter, it just tend to create stupid situations. I get that in a situation where there is too many things happening to make case by case "judgement" it's too complicated but it's not like you have a lot of those to deal with... imo checking if it's clearly used to give an advantage or not then deciding if it's ban worthy(and clearly asking the guy to remove the skin regardless) is a smarter process. Just going on like THE RULES ARE THE RULES doesn't make sense to me. No ruleset is perfect and if you find something that doesn't seem that smart might as well change it. I mean it's not an international court of law you don't need to be that stubborn on rule enforcing (only defending janne because we secretly have an affair but keep it a secret).
I can't be assed to comment on the whole Janne situation but I'd say from experience I tried to do this in several tournaments to make it better for the competitors and fairer for everyone. Bending my own rules in certain situations and using them as guidelines and all that caused is much more drama/issues/arguments than you are seeing today. In the end as a host whether you follow your rules or not all you get are people complaining and wanting more. At least if you follow your rules you have a solid argument to stick to.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2022, 05:17:01 pm
But why would you use them then if not to get an advantage, i see no point i people saying "yea i dont use them to get some advantage" when it is clear that you somehow get a advantage out of them. You dont use them because it looks good.  ::)

why would people use the minecraft texture pack then ?  ???

people just like memey textures and to fuck around with all the possibilities to modify textures in this shit game, not everything has to come down to being useful or giving an advantage
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on January 26, 2022, 05:30:59 pm
But why would you use them then if not to get an advantage, i see no point i people saying "yea i dont use them to get some advantage" when it is clear that you somehow get a advantage out of them. You dont use them because it looks good.  ::)

why would people use the minecraft texture pack then ?  ???

people just like memey textures and to fuck around with all the possibilities to modify textures in this shit game, not everything has to come down to being useful or giving an advantage
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ZeroNight on January 26, 2022, 06:07:41 pm
where is screenshot of the mod? i think it really depends if it gives advantage or not. when you play with the NW-Minecraft mod for example, you shouldnt be punished for cheating

But it should. You either ban all musket texture mods or none, there can't be any in-between

why ? i think you can clearly differentiate people who try to abuse them to get some advantage, although a negligible one.  it's a pretty dumb rule that clearly was never taken seriously, nobody ever seemed to enforce it so i thought people just didn't care anymore. anyways go ahead jannies and ruin your tournament for the sake of feeling like a big boy on the internet.

But why would you use them then if not to get an advantage, i see no point i people saying "yea i dont use them to get some advantage" when it is clear that you somehow get a advantage out of them. You dont use them because it looks good.  ::)

Btw..i still have to agree with Nock that we lost to many teams for it to even be worth at this point

no, i do like the look of my french textures, you probably can't see from the videos but it's got nice anime faces :D
the british textures i accidentally fucked up but never cba to fix them. the bayonets literally pitch black, it was never designed to gain any advantage. if i wanted to use textures as an advantage i would just use my yellow bayonets.

ah my bad then didn't see the meme stuff
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on January 26, 2022, 06:11:01 pm
Certain units on that janne texture pack have lonedoge catgirl anime imprinted on their bodys/legs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kong on January 26, 2022, 06:27:19 pm
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt playing using dx7 and a shit tonne of contrast on ur screen have a similar efect to coloured muskets? you just see the game brighter ...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fwuffy on January 26, 2022, 06:37:45 pm
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt playing using dx7 and a shit tonne of contrast on ur screen have a similar efect to coloured muskets? you just see the game brighter ...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 07:03:19 pm
Bending my own rules in certain situations and using them as guidelines and all that caused is much more drama/issues/arguments than you are seeing today. In the end as a host whether you follow your rules or not all you get are people complaining and wanting more. At least if you follow your rules you have a solid argument to stick to.
Well i can't really argue on that part since i never organised any tournaments on nw before, though i've seen people complains for pages on in both cases so might as well do what seems to be the smarter option and ignore the complains if you and the admin team feel like the decision is right and grounded. And in this specific case i would see complaining if people had already been banned from this specific reason but there wasn't any to my knowledge (which is fairly limited i'm pretty dumb) ? So i don't think it would a problem to anyone to edit that specific rule. It's just i feel like most things should be done on case by case and possibly editing the rules rather than sticking blindly to the initial ones. Especially in this instance where i feel the decision hurt the competition more than anything. Just my opinion though !
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2022, 07:08:19 pm
agreed with my ""friend"" dren
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 07:13:30 pm
agreed with my ""friend"" dren
one more quotation marks to friend plz """friend""" wouldn't wan't any misunderstanding
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on January 26, 2022, 07:46:41 pm
Bending rules always sounds like a good idea ::)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 07:57:51 pm
Bending rules always sounds like a good idea ::)
It actually is and we do it in pretty much anything law related. Like when depending on the severity of a crime and the intention of the person who commited it the rules would still apply but the sentences a lot less severe. Like in this case when janne didn't had any intention of cheating with his actually pretty unhelpful pack, i mean look at it xD, and since i honestly don't think it impacted any of the matches he played in, just giving him a warning and asking him to remove that and show proof he did next tournament would seem a lot fairer in my opinion.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on January 26, 2022, 08:04:12 pm
Yea just asking him to remove it would be better probably but bending rules always leads to bias in this community so fixed punishments for a rulebreak are always better, then everyone knows what can and will happen and then you can judge yourself if you want to risk it

But everyone knew changing colours of muskets was forbidden some time ago already so you cant really complain about punishments when you use it still
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 08:07:38 pm
Yea just asking him to remove it would be better probably but bending rules always leads to bias in this community so fixed punishments for a rulebreak are always better, then everyone knows what can and will happen and then you can judge yourself if you want to risk it

But everyone knew changing colours of muskets was forbidden some time ago already so you cant really complain about punishments when you use it still
i disagree on that but i don't organise shit so it doesn't really matter x)

But i for one didn't know it was even thing till like a week or two even less so that it was a banned thing xD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2022, 08:21:57 pm
i'll disband so we can have even less teams in the tourney no worries
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2022, 08:31:42 pm
The issue of coloured textures getting players banned already happened several times in the past, mostly on native. From what I recall, each time it created a lot of discussions, especially around the severity of the punishments. And yet each time, the admins stuck to their ruleset, only reverting the punishment on one occasion to target the specific individual at fault, rather than the whole team.

You can argue all you want, the truth is there is no win-win possibility in these kinds of situations nor is there a 'fairer' option that out rules all others. But pretty sure everyone agrees it sucks for Janne (who obviously didn't seek to gain any advantage) or his team if they end up disbanding due to the decision.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 08:51:14 pm
You can argue all you want, the truth is there is no win-win possibility in these kinds of situations nor is there a 'fairer' option that out rules all others.
Well i don't see the downside of having a less harsh punition if a person who broke the rule didn't do it with bad intentions and it didn't impact the competition in any way. That's win win imo, banning him is the only lose lose scenario imo.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on January 26, 2022, 09:09:39 pm
i have been using autoblock and none has stopped me since 2019
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on January 26, 2022, 09:16:58 pm
I had the same discussion at the beginning of the EGS and everyone's answer was to ban modified textures, I hardly understand why everyone is defending the opposite now  ???
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on January 26, 2022, 09:21:34 pm
I had the same discussion at the beginning of the EGS and everyone's answer was to ban modified textures, I hardly understand why everyone is defending the opposite now  ???
because people probably have an issue with brightly coloured muskets that are obviously trying to find some advantage. i don't use those
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on January 26, 2022, 09:27:42 pm
I had the same discussion at the beginning of the EGS and everyone's answer was to ban modified textures, I hardly understand why everyone is defending the opposite now  ???
because people probably have an issue with brightly coloured muskets that are obviously trying to find some advantage. i don't use those
Any musket that has colors that stand out from the background give a vision advantage, but a ban for this is excessive
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on January 26, 2022, 09:38:12 pm
Jannes muskets seem much like the Minecraft mod. More of a meme than a tool used for getting an advantage. Only he would know but it seems obvious there was no il intent in using them and a match ban seems excessive. Especially considering the state of league 1 and knowing that banning him would lead to another team dropping from the competition.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on January 26, 2022, 09:40:51 pm
Jannes muskets seem much like the Minecraft mod. More of a meme than a tool used for getting an advantage. Only he would know but it seems obvious there was no il intent in using them and a match ban seems excessive. Especially considering the state of league 1 and knowing that banning him would lead to another team dropping from the competition.
^^^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2022, 09:57:03 pm
Jannes muskets seem much like the Minecraft mod. More of a meme than a tool used for getting an advantage. Only he would know but it seems obvious there was no il intent in using them and a match ban seems excessive. Especially considering the state of league 1 and knowing that banning him would lead to another team dropping from the competition.
^^^
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on January 26, 2022, 10:34:52 pm
Initially the rule was voted into place by a majority of team leaders and admins during the start of season 2, the rule was in place for bright coloured muskets as you can see and be more aware of your peripheral surroundings and it is a benefit no matter how minor. The rule stood on those principles but personally Janne’s musket colour is mild and more aesthetically pleasing rather than peripherally advantageous. Regardless it broke the rules so at least a one tournament ban is justified under the rules even if it doesn’t fully correlate to what the specifics of the rule is. The ban was debated in the admin chat and multiple angles and things was discussed but the ultimate punishment decision came from Unicorn and Chainsor as head admins. Rules are rules so we wouldn’t be in this situation if they wasn’t broken tbh. Even if you don’t agree with the rule and think it’s stupid, you shouldn’t go and risk getting banned by breaking the rules. Punishment may be severe but that’s down to the two new head admins to decide. Maybe the length of the ban can be revisited and changed in good spirit to ending the season with a competitive playoff or the ban will remain as is and be justified in doing so in accordance to the rules! We shall wait and see which outcome happens!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on January 26, 2022, 10:47:33 pm
You can argue all you want, the truth is there is no win-win possibility in these kinds of situations nor is there a 'fairer' option that out rules all others.
Well i don't see the downside of having a less harsh punition if a person who broke the rule didn't do it with bad intentions and it didn't impact the competition in any way. That's win win imo, banning him is the only lose lose scenario imo.
Reducing the ban to one tournament could be a decent middle-ground to be reached, not sure it would change Dab's case though as it would still heavily penalize them.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 26, 2022, 11:43:18 pm
i miss when voluble was still managing most of the egs league1 stuff
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on January 26, 2022, 11:47:19 pm
Yes but now he can watch Aston Villa in peace
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on January 27, 2022, 12:24:03 am
add playoffs in L2
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tomppa on January 27, 2022, 09:55:39 am
add playoffs in L2

No ty
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Artista. on January 27, 2022, 11:53:54 am
#freejanne
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on January 29, 2022, 03:40:59 am
I hope everyone has touched some grass and drank some water so that they are now calm.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on January 29, 2022, 05:20:16 pm
You can argue all you want, the truth is there is no win-win possibility in these kinds of situations nor is there a 'fairer' option that out rules all others.
Well i don't see the downside of having a less harsh punition if a person who broke the rule didn't do it with bad intentions and it didn't impact the competition in any way. That's win win imo, banning him is the only lose lose scenario imo.
Listen to this guy, hes smart. I know he sounds like a cute little mixed-race british-french boy but hes got a really big brain believe me i saw it!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on January 29, 2022, 05:35:01 pm
I hope everyone has touched some grass and drank some water so that they are now calm.

Everyone was calm  ;D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on January 30, 2022, 12:59:25 am
You can argue all you want, the truth is there is no win-win possibility in these kinds of situations nor is there a 'fairer' option that out rules all others.
Well i don't see the downside of having a less harsh punition if a person who broke the rule didn't do it with bad intentions and it didn't impact the competition in any way. That's win win imo, banning him is the only lose lose scenario imo.
Listen to this guy, hes smart. I know he sounds like a cute little mixed-race british-french boy but hes got a really big brain believe me i saw it!
plz don't look into my skull again i'm very brain shy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 30, 2022, 02:19:53 am
You can argue all you want, the truth is there is no win-win possibility in these kinds of situations nor is there a 'fairer' option that out rules all others.
Well i don't see the downside of having a less harsh punition if a person who broke the rule didn't do it with bad intentions and it didn't impact the competition in any way. That's win win imo, banning him is the only lose lose scenario imo.
Listen to this guy, hes smart. I know he sounds like a cute little mixed-race british-french boy but hes got a really big brain believe me i saw it!
plz don't look into my skull again i'm very brain shy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91IoiWBVNFk
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on February 07, 2022, 09:44:51 pm
really nice to see how many of you actually are making their minds on how to improve the EGS/general competetive NW rn

I totall agree with many of you
EGS was for the last two seasons quite boring, especially this one.
envy/Amaterasu winning every time
Of course Poosy/10C was up for a fight, Enigma in the beginning beat them in semis, but still not consistent enough to really do this on a regular base.
Then we have some contenders for the top 3, but most of the time you can tell who will play against each other and how it will end.
 
Furthermore with teams like Animals, who are literally doing nothing and winning with this strategy, it isn't enjoyable at all, from a players perspective.
Animals obv not the only one doing it, but simply doing it "best".

Last but not least, I want to share my organizers/HA view on this season
It is really devastating to see on which low level of sportmanship we are having here, on a dead game. Ruining the fun of the last few players playing, and also the organizers.

Everyone of the admin team is giving his free time to make sure this huge project is a positive contribution to the community and there are still some people who keep arguing and insulting after they broke rules or doesn't get what they want. I can tell you all, that everyone of the admin team sacrificed several hours into this, doesn't matter if former admins, or now admins.

I really think it's devastating to see how League 2 is run perfectly smooth, with players who have less experience in the competetive community, and still don't whine so much, or have the feeling they have to share their unasked opinion on an issue.

Witht his alltogether I'm looking forward to the playoffs, with surely some changes in the final placement, compared to the standing rn.
But besides that I'm also looking forward to the break of EGS, and focusing afterwards on the part of the community which appreciates the hard work done by the organizers. 

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 09:58:43 pm
Furthermore with teams like Animals, who are literally doing nothing and winning with this strategy, it isn't enjoyable at all, from a players perspective.
Animals obv not the only one doing it, but simply doing it "best".

Everyone of the admin team is giving his free time to make sure this huge project is a positive contribution to the community and there are still some people who keep arguing and insulting after they broke rules or doesn't get what they want. I can tell you all, that everyone of the admin team sacrificed several hours into this, doesn't matter if former admins, or now admins.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alatriste1234 on February 07, 2022, 10:19:01 pm
really nice to see how many of you actually are making their minds on how to improve the EGS/general competetive NW rn

I totall agree with many of you
EGS was for the last two seasons quite boring, especially this one.
envy/Amaterasu winning every time
Of course Poosy/10C was up for a fight, Enigma in the beginning beat them in semis, but still not consistent enough to really do this on a regular base.
Then we have some contenders for the top 3, but most of the time you can tell who will play against each other and how it will end.
 
Furthermore with teams like Animals, who are literally doing nothing and winning with this strategy, it isn't enjoyable at all, from a players perspective.
Animals obv not the only one doing it, but simply doing it "best".

Last but not least, I want to share my organizers/HA view on this season
It is really devastating to see on which low level of sportmanship we are having here, on a dead game. Ruining the fun of the last few players playing, and also the organizers.

Everyone of the admin team is giving his free time to make sure this huge project is a positive contribution to the community and there are still some people who keep arguing and insulting after they broke rules or doesn't get what they want. I can tell you all, that everyone of the admin team sacrificed several hours into this, doesn't matter if former admins, or now admins.

I really think it's devastating to see how League 2 is run perfectly smooth, with players who have less experience in the competetive community, and still don't whine so much, or have the feeling they have to share their unasked opinion on an issue.

Witht his alltogether I'm looking forward to the playoffs, with surely some changes in the final placement, compared to the standing rn.
But besides that I'm also looking forward to the break of EGS, and focusing afterwards on the part of the community which appreciates the hard work done by the organizers.

a guy from enigma saying that animals wins cause we dont do anything (when in our match we were all the rounds doing 2v1s in mid, is not our problem that some of ur guys doesnt have enough gamesense) such an irony coming from a player from enigma with the german style always known for being the most passive ever in the game, next time maybe play the match smart like enigma usually does instead of diving in and launching random and dumb stabs with 0 game sense and stop crying
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nightwing on February 07, 2022, 10:19:13 pm
Furthermore with teams like Animals, who are literally doing nothing and winning with this strategy, it isn't enjoyable at all, from a players perspective.
Animals obv not the only one doing it, but simply doing it "best".

I'm best in running in and dieing first



Tbh a break would be good, maybe nwwc + draft pick random 2v2 sword what ever FUN tournament. After that and I would say even a summer break there could be potential to do a next egs season, if enough ppl still play for different teams and admins willing to org
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on February 07, 2022, 10:19:36 pm
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alatriste1234 on February 07, 2022, 10:22:50 pm
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

wursti the guy that says "alatriste is doing nothing" in a match where he didnt stab a single time, the hypocrisy at its peak and the best thing is that he doesnt notice, and cries when playing dumb doesnt work with 0 self-criticism and instead of playing calmly he stops trying just because "its boring", ah but when he bores the ppl he doesnt mind, great hypocrisy from one of the biggest retards of the scene
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 07, 2022, 10:23:14 pm
Remember
Spoiler
Alatriste gets the picks
[close]
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 10:26:59 pm
really nice to see how many of you actually are making their minds on how to improve the EGS/general competetive NW rn

I totall agree with many of you
EGS was for the last two seasons quite boring, especially this one.
envy/Amaterasu winning every time
Of course Poosy/10C was up for a fight, Enigma in the beginning beat them in semis, but still not consistent enough to really do this on a regular base.
Then we have some contenders for the top 3, but most of the time you can tell who will play against each other and how it will end.
 
Furthermore with teams like Animals, who are literally doing nothing and winning with this strategy, it isn't enjoyable at all, from a players perspective.
Animals obv not the only one doing it, but simply doing it "best".

Last but not least, I want to share my organizers/HA view on this season
It is really devastating to see on which low level of sportmanship we are having here, on a dead game. Ruining the fun of the last few players playing, and also the organizers.

Everyone of the admin team is giving his free time to make sure this huge project is a positive contribution to the community and there are still some people who keep arguing and insulting after they broke rules or doesn't get what they want. I can tell you all, that everyone of the admin team sacrificed several hours into this, doesn't matter if former admins, or now admins.

I really think it's devastating to see how League 2 is run perfectly smooth, with players who have less experience in the competetive community, and still don't whine so much, or have the feeling they have to share their unasked opinion on an issue.

Witht his alltogether I'm looking forward to the playoffs, with surely some changes in the final placement, compared to the standing rn.
But besides that I'm also looking forward to the break of EGS, and focusing afterwards on the part of the community which appreciates the hard work done by the organizers.
If u dont enjoy the game, u should quit, it is what it is my friend ...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: antslimey on February 07, 2022, 10:31:47 pm
Dueling is now groupfighting
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on February 07, 2022, 10:32:42 pm
One of our first calls vs Enigma was, literally verbatim:

"DarkTemplar is stabbing like a moron, forcing Bunter to cover, just win elsewhere" 💀

You didn't swap flanks for ages as well, I don't think you ever got off that flank either. You just had a shit gameplan and inferior teamwork in that match.

Like R1bazz says, if you don't like it, don't play.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 10:40:03 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on February 07, 2022, 10:41:43 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

We literally pushed one flank all the way until the Finals, and played in rotation.

Why would we go against our best interests and push everywhere, giving our opponents an easy time making shit messy?

Can you explain what it is we do that you do not like?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: antslimey on February 07, 2022, 10:43:48 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.
All im hearing is
Drake Meta OP
Dueling is now GFING
Long live EU Hold stab meta
Medium speed Medium brains

Learn to see the patterns
Learn to be the patterns
Learn to FEEL the patterns
Learn to examine the patterns
Learn to love the patterns
Learn to abuse the patterns
Learn to find the patterns
Learn to play with the patterns
Let the patterns speak  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 07, 2022, 10:44:44 pm
Blitzkrieg, you're being a bad loser rn...
Fuck Zenon, the guy doesn't stab!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 10:45:17 pm
It’s not what you are doing, it’s more what you aren’t doing, the lack of engaging gameplay just makes things boring, simple as. This is why duelling became so boring and useless and now it’s happening to group-fighting too. 
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on February 07, 2022, 10:46:20 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

"guyss why isnt this hireaper and giorno guy not stabbing and falling for our shitty 2v1 bait :((((("

actual jokeman.

If you want to play smart, look at achilles and chuckster. They are only flank which actually know how to counter this style of play and play somewhat aggressive. Crying on fse about playstyles won't help you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 10:47:09 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.
All im hearing is
Drake Meta OP
Dueling is now GFING
Long live EU Hold stab meta
Medium speed Medium brains

Learn to see the patterns
Learn to be the patterns
Learn to FEEL the patterns
Learn to examine the patterns
Learn to love the patterns
Learn to abuse the patterns
Learn to find the patterns
Learn to play with the patterns
Let the patterns speak  8) 8) 8)

Low-key thinking that fastest speed would probably help move matches along.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: antslimey on February 07, 2022, 10:47:20 pm
It’s not what you are doing, it’s more what you aren’t doing, the lack of engaging gameplay just makes things boring, simple as. This is why duelling became so boring and useless and now it’s happening to group-fighting too.
Bro So your saying NA META of GFING is goated
AGREED fam
EU needs to stop being so CHAV and learn to stab
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: antslimey on February 07, 2022, 10:50:53 pm
Two kind of players
Players who want to win
Players who want to look cool

If someone is beating you playing cancer just get better and learn to beat that style with aggression. If you cant beat it though you cant blame people for playing to win.
Otherwise you need to change your rules to encourage a different style of gameplay. But no one ever wants to change rules to encourage different playstyles because they are small brain.
Facts bruhs
Ok fam
Ok Chavs
Ok Sigmas
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 10:53:48 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

"guyss why isnt this hireaper and giorno guy not stabbing and falling for our shitty 2v1 bait :((((("

actual jokeman.

If you want to play smart, look at achilles and chuckster. They are only flank which actually know how to counter this style of play and play somewhat aggressive. Crying on fse about playstyles won't help you

As usual my comment just went over your head. I’m not complaining about gameplay. More the attitude of players. The- “Don’t like it don’t play” is the attitude which will eventually kill the game, playing passive makes the gameplay boring for your opponent who will ultimately not enjoy playing anymore and quit, if that happens enough you won’t have a community to play passive against, understand?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 07, 2022, 10:55:38 pm
People are complaining about others are playing too slow? If only there was a setting to make the speed of the game faster.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 10:56:11 pm
People are complaining about others are playing too slow? If only there was a setting to make the speed of the game faster.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on February 07, 2022, 10:58:12 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

"guyss why isnt this hireaper and giorno guy not stabbing and falling for our shitty 2v1 bait :((((("

actual jokeman.

If you want to play smart, look at achilles and chuckster. They are only flank which actually know how to counter this style of play and play somewhat aggressive. Crying on fse about playstyles won't help you

As usual my comment just went over your head. I’m not complaining about gameplay. More the attitude of players. The- “Don’t like it don’t play” is the attitude which will eventually kill the game, playing passive makes the gameplay boring for your opponent who will ultimately not enjoy playing anymore and quit, if that happens enough you won’t have a community to play passive against, understand?

LOL what is this cope ???

You literally cry on steam and ts over how "boring" animals play

understand?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 07, 2022, 10:58:37 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

"guyss why isnt this hireaper and giorno guy not stabbing and falling for our shitty 2v1 bait :((((("

actual jokeman.

If you want to play smart, look at achilles and chuckster. They are only flank which actually know how to counter this style of play and play somewhat aggressive. Crying on fse about playstyles won't help you

As usual my comment just went over your head. I’m not complaining about gameplay. More the attitude of players. The- “Don’t like it don’t play” is the attitude which will eventually kill the game, playing passive makes the gameplay boring for your opponent who will ultimately not enjoy playing anymore and quit, if that happens enough you won’t have a community to play passive against, understand?

LOL what is this cope ???

You literally cry on steam and ts over how "boring" animals play

understand?

45thN is still recruiting btw
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 07, 2022, 11:00:39 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

"guyss why isnt this hireaper and giorno guy not stabbing and falling for our shitty 2v1 bait :((((("

actual jokeman.

If you want to play smart, look at achilles and chuckster. They are only flank which actually know how to counter this style of play and play somewhat aggressive. Crying on fse about playstyles won't help you

As usual my comment just went over your head. I’m not complaining about gameplay. More the attitude of players. The- “Don’t like it don’t play” is the attitude which will eventually kill the game, playing passive makes the gameplay boring for your opponent who will ultimately not enjoy playing anymore and quit, if that happens enough you won’t have a community to play passive against, understand?

LOL what is this cope ???

You literally cry on steam and ts over how "boring" animals play

understand?

45thN is still recruiting btw
Fuck off weeb ass bitch, go suck a big donkey dick you little slut. I slap your face irl and in game if I have to.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 07, 2022, 11:01:06 pm
Honestly such a shit attitude from all of you, “Don’t like it don’t play”, with that logic half the community would’ve left by now as many in this game at the moment isn’t enjoying playing due to certain cancer teams/players and if this continues the top level of competitive will dwindle until no top teams are left. Not much you can do as you can’t change how others play but it is definitely a factor in why many people are leaving the community and this is making the game increasingly boring and difficult to enjoy and until a new meta is made I am afraid this decline in players at the top will continue.

I get it, if you bore enough people out the game some of you will finally be top 1.

"guyss why isnt this hireaper and giorno guy not stabbing and falling for our shitty 2v1 bait :((((("

actual jokeman.

If you want to play smart, look at achilles and chuckster. They are only flank which actually know how to counter this style of play and play somewhat aggressive. Crying on fse about playstyles won't help you

As usual my comment just went over your head. I’m not complaining about gameplay. More the attitude of players. The- “Don’t like it don’t play” is the attitude which will eventually kill the game, playing passive makes the gameplay boring for your opponent who will ultimately not enjoy playing anymore and quit, if that happens enough you won’t have a community to play passive against, understand?

LOL what is this cope ???

You literally cry on steam and ts over how "boring" animals play

understand?

45thN is still recruiting btw
Fuck off weeb ass bitch, go suck a big donkey dick you little slut. I slap your face irl and in game if I have to.

fuck ive been exposed, my cousin typed it not me
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 07, 2022, 11:05:05 pm
I've been playing since 2012, people have been whining about slow players or cancer players (eg. when they dont do anything) but honestly, in the state the game and the scene is in right now, it's becoming ridiculous.

People will use whatever non rule-breaking  strategy they can use in order to succeed, and if a team or players succeed by being """cancer""" or too passive, then find a way to counter it instead of whining over it

cant believe people still take this game this seriously
if it bores you to death and makes you want to quit, maybe you never had the patience to play tournaments in the first place
wouldve loved to see some of your faces during the Ledger vs Hokej duel, THAT was true cancer and passive playstyle
just because somebody throws smart and timed stabs once in a bloodmoon doesn't mean they're cancer, they're just outplaying you if they kill you like that, just like zenon fucked me mid twice yesterday
yet i didn't log on FSE to cry about it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 07, 2022, 11:06:53 pm
Imagine thinking you can dictate how someone else plays the game.

Also this community would be better if people touched grass, drank water and got 8 hours of sleep at night.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 11:09:10 pm
It is what it is, this game is dead anyways if more people leave it will just end my pain, second ppl crying about passive or not doing anything if ur dying to it maybe its good, maybe its some ppls brain that cant compreend and get a good tactic to play against it but i dont blame none with this problem as u guys are born with this problem ! In the end of the day nw is always the same thing, people crying about everything just because they cant win or kill someone, jesus christ get something better to do if it anoys u so mutch ! :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 11:10:18 pm
Again want to make it clear I’m only stating that playing passive will most of the time cause your opponents to become bored, and bored people won’t play the game. The best way to play at the moment is slow which in turn makes people passive. Of course this issue will be solved when someone much better at the game than my self decides to come up with a counter to this passive meta which I don’t see happening any time soon.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 07, 2022, 11:10:47 pm
Imagine thinking you can dictate how someone else plays the game.

Also this community would be better if people touched grass, drank water and got 8 hours of sleep at night.
Touching grass certainly got you Junior Moderator ;D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 11:11:03 pm
tbh i acc hope everyone becomes passive so this game can die in peace
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on February 07, 2022, 11:12:47 pm
I always said that HiReaper and Giorno flank would kill a game. Good fucking job guys!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 11:14:34 pm
(https://img.memecdn.com/if-you-don-amp-039-t-like-it-then-leave_o_2849051.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 07, 2022, 11:16:42 pm
Passive play is hardly new it just feels more prominent atm as most of the 'best' aggressive players recently stopped playing. But eventually, new ones will take their place just as Achilles has most likely. The games always been dying I don't think a specific playstyle can be blamed for it it's old af ffs. Playing passive does offer you an advantage if your opponent does not do the same ofc, just as putting 10 men behind the ball in football does. But of course it is still beatable and generally speaking in most cases the better team will eventually still win hence why Envy still wins.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 07, 2022, 11:17:27 pm
Imagine thinking you can dictate how someone else plays the game.

Also this community would be better if people touched grass, drank water and got 8 hours of sleep at night.
Touching grass certainly got you Junior Moderator ;D
I touch grass everyday :D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikus on February 07, 2022, 11:17:52 pm
Passive play is hardly new it just feels more prominent atm as most of the 'best' aggressive players recently stopped playing. But eventually, new ones will take their place just as Achilles has most likely. The games always been dying I don't think a specific playstyle can be blamed for it it's old af ffs. Playing passive does offer you an advantage if your opponent does not do the same ofc, just as putting 10 men behind the ball in football does. But of course it is still beatable and generally speaking in most cases the better team will eventually still win hence why Envy still wins.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 11:18:29 pm
(https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/s_29/29a9bf3c727b43424df4ca8bc599abea.jpeg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Barro112 on February 07, 2022, 11:29:53 pm
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me ngl. You're telling us how to play so you might have a chance next time. And if not, you'll quit the game. Well, if that's your mentality you probably should quit the competitive side of the game, it's just not for you.

You're also really exaggerating our passive play. In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it, when teams are playing like this why wouldn't we take advantage of it. If you guys can’t keep your teammates in check and lose patience after a small amount of time, that’s really your problem and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that, not us.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 07, 2022, 11:33:48 pm
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me ngl. You're telling us how to play so you might have a chance next time. And if not, you'll quit the game. Well, if that's your mentality you probably should quit the competitive side of the game, it's just not for you.

You're also really exaggerating our passive play. In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it, when teams are playing like this why wouldn't we take advantage of it. If you guys can’t keep your teammates in check and lose patience after a small amount of time, that’s really your problem and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that, not us.
'A bunch' only Blitz said anything from our side. I even congratulated you lol.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Barro112 on February 07, 2022, 11:35:40 pm
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me ngl. You're telling us how to play so you might have a chance next time. And if not, you'll quit the game. Well, if that's your mentality you probably should quit the competitive side of the game, it's just not for you.

You're also really exaggerating our passive play. In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it, when teams are playing like this why wouldn't we take advantage of it. If you guys can’t keep your teammates in check and lose patience after a small amount of time, that’s really your problem and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that, not us.
'A bunch' only Blitz said anything from our side. I even congratulated you lol.
Ye I forgot to quote Blitz and DarkTemplar, it's aimed at their takes.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on February 07, 2022, 11:36:21 pm
In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it,

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/029/191/cover6.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 11:40:22 pm
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me ngl. You're telling us how to play so you might have a chance next time. And if not, you'll quit the game. Well, if that's your mentality you probably should quit the competitive side of the game, it's just not for you.

You're also really exaggerating our passive play. In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it, when teams are playing like this why wouldn't we take advantage of it. If you guys can’t keep your teammates in check and lose patience after a small amount of time, that’s really your problem and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that, not us.
No cap keep up the facts my g
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on February 07, 2022, 11:52:02 pm
(https://cdn.crello.com/api/media/small/198069414/stock-photo-young-man-drinking-beer-taking)

Keep on going guys, it’s getting kinda interesting!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 07, 2022, 11:52:12 pm
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me ngl. You're telling us how to play so you might have a chance next time. And if not, you'll quit the game. Well, if that's your mentality you probably should quit the competitive side of the game, it's just not for you.

You're also really exaggerating our passive play. In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it, when teams are playing like this why wouldn't we take advantage of it. If you guys can’t keep your teammates in check and lose patience after a small amount of time, that’s really your problem and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that, not us.
'A bunch' only Blitz said anything from our side. I even congratulated you lol.
Ye I forgot to quote Blitz and DarkTemplar, it's aimed at their takes.
I also congratulated you guys after the match was done.
I feel like my message has been lost so I’ll stop posting after this. All I mean to say is that a passive play Style is boring to play against, as many people would agree, and that when something is boring people won’t want to play, yes it’s the persons fault for finding it boring and not yours for playing such a way. All I’m doing is stating facts and saying that ultimately a boring atmosphere isn’t stimulating for many and so is causing a lot of people to lose interest in the game which will ultimately kill it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 07, 2022, 11:55:28 pm
I blame Drake
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 07, 2022, 11:56:14 pm
I blame myself
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hypno on February 08, 2022, 12:27:17 am
Sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me ngl. You're telling us how to play so you might have a chance next time. And if not, you'll quit the game. Well, if that's your mentality you probably should quit the competitive side of the game, it's just not for you.

You're also really exaggerating our passive play. In some cases, we literally had to wait for 2 seconds for someone to throw a braindead stab and got a free kill off it, when teams are playing like this why wouldn't we take advantage of it. If you guys can’t keep your teammates in check and lose patience after a small amount of time, that’s really your problem and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that, not us.
'A bunch' only Blitz said anything from our side. I even congratulated you lol.
Ye I forgot to quote Blitz and DarkTemplar, it's aimed at their takes.
I also congratulated you guys after the match was done.
I feel like my message has been lost so I’ll stop posting after this. All I mean to say is that a passive play Style is boring to play against, as many people would agree, and that when something is boring people won’t want to play, yes it’s the persons fault for finding it boring and not yours for playing such a way. All I’m doing is stating facts and saying that ultimately a boring atmosphere isn’t stimulating for many and so is causing a lot of people to lose interest in the game which will ultimately kill it.
get good, pussy  8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Lonedoge. on February 08, 2022, 12:29:43 am
ppl can play how they want tbf. but imo they are limiting themselves to a certain level by being so passive. tough luck for average teams/players who want to have fun but sucks to suck ig
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on February 08, 2022, 12:31:00 am
ribazz you're talking how much pain it is to play this game and you want others to quit so you can stop playing

what kinda mentality is this? just quit yourself then? what's stopping you?

or is being the most passive, basic one stab player to ever touch this game some sort of crusade to make everyone else quit first? you were claiming how you don't wanna put any effort in getting better in the game, how it's dying and how it's a waste of time for what, 2-3 years now? literally just quit yourself
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on February 08, 2022, 12:33:27 am
ban vengeance and nezzor ::)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 08, 2022, 12:47:24 am
ribazz you're talking how much pain it is to play this game and you want others to quit so you can stop playing

what kinda mentality is this? just quit yourself then? what's stopping you?

or is being the most passive, basic one stab player to ever touch this game some sort of crusade to make everyone else quit first? you were claiming how you don't wanna put any effort in getting better in the game, how it's dying and how it's a waste of time for what, 2-3 years now? literally just quit yourself
Kore but this game is my life i wake up in the morning for this game legit, i came back cause i felt i was missing something in my life, and that was u and this game, both of u complete my heart im happy that u noticed me, cause atm ur opinion is what matters to me the most ! 5 years of happiness on ur side not 3 !!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Sasuke Uchiha on February 08, 2022, 01:09:59 am
What does anyone's style of play have to do with it? why is everyone fighting? what did I miss ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 08, 2022, 01:14:14 am
What does anyone's style of play have to do with it? why is everyone fighting? what did I miss ?
Kore's heart cause its mine
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on February 08, 2022, 01:44:24 am
 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on February 08, 2022, 02:06:45 am
Passive play is hardly new it just feels more prominent atm as most of the 'best' aggressive players recently stopped playing. But eventually, new ones will take their place just as Achilles has most likely. The games always been dying I don't think a specific playstyle can be blamed for it it's old af ffs. Playing passive does offer you an advantage if your opponent does not do the same ofc, just as putting 10 men behind the ball in football does. But of course it is still beatable and generally speaking in most cases the better team will eventually still win hence why Envy still wins.


Exactly nothing wrong with what animals are doing, if you can't beat them you're not good enough to be in the finals you didn't have the patience or the right technique simple as that.

What's wrong with the Game\EGS? Nothing its the same game people grow old and stop playing I'm pretty sure the ratio of top players leaving to new ones joining has been going down hill for a while.

But I still see the same players playing every tournament now for 5 years I'm not surprised its going downhill when Envy's only competition up and left and to think they all asked me to join as well how boring would that have been...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on February 08, 2022, 05:47:26 am
really nice to see how many of you actually are making their minds on how to improve the EGS/general competetive NW rn

I totall agree with many of you
EGS was for the last two seasons quite boring, especially this one.
envy/Amaterasu winning every time
Of course Poosy/10C was up for a fight, Enigma in the beginning beat them in semis, but still not consistent enough to really do this on a regular base.
Then we have some contenders for the top 3, but most of the time you can tell who will play against each other and how it will end.
 
Furthermore with teams like Animals, who are literally doing nothing and winning with this strategy, it isn't enjoyable at all, from a players perspective.
Animals obv not the only one doing it, but simply doing it "best".

Last but not least, I want to share my organizers/HA view on this season
It is really devastating to see on which low level of sportmanship we are having here, on a dead game. Ruining the fun of the last few players playing, and also the organizers.

Everyone of the admin team is giving his free time to make sure this huge project is a positive contribution to the community and there are still some people who keep arguing and insulting after they broke rules or doesn't get what they want. I can tell you all, that everyone of the admin team sacrificed several hours into this, doesn't matter if former admins, or now admins.

I really think it's devastating to see how League 2 is run perfectly smooth, with players who have less experience in the competetive community, and still don't whine so much, or have the feeling they have to share their unasked opinion on an issue.

Witht his alltogether I'm looking forward to the playoffs, with surely some changes in the final placement, compared to the standing rn.
But besides that I'm also looking forward to the break of EGS, and focusing afterwards on the part of the community which appreciates the hard work done by the organizers.

a guy from enigma saying that animals wins cause we dont do anything (when in our match we were all the rounds doing 2v1s in mid, is not our problem that some of ur guys doesnt have enough gamesense) such an irony coming from a player from enigma with the german style always known for being the most passive ever in the game, next time maybe play the match smart like enigma usually does instead of diving in and launching random and dumb stabs with 0 game sense and stop crying
dw alatriste you will get the picks
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 08, 2022, 05:55:10 am
Again want to make it clear I’m only stating that playing passive will most of the time cause your opponents to become bored, and bored people won’t play the game. The best way to play at the moment is slow which in turn makes people passive. Of course this issue will be solved when someone much better at the game than my self decides to come up with a counter to this passive meta which I don’t see happening any time soon.
Well, it's already done and it's on the "European Groupfighting Series S2" channel. You can see that the finals last in general 20 minutes which is in my opinion short if we compare for example FRA vs ENG last year, the problem is that people just dosen't care, no ? Imagine being on a game where you have the possibility to have the finals VOD of two "aggressive" teams Poosy/Amaterasu with ALL the possible coms, which gives the possibility to answer the question "how can I give my team an aggressive style" but how many captains have already asked themselves this simple question ? people simply don't care and their reasoning doesn't go further than "me no stab because me die so me wait" because the game is not competitive enough.

The playstyle "blackmail" is just as ridiculous, nobody should change his playstyle for others, if it annoys the others keep doing it it's perfect, it is a "competitive" game and the goal is to defeat the other team, not to adapt to please them.  :P

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on February 08, 2022, 06:55:51 am
I always said that HiReaper and Giorno flank would kill a game. Good fucking job guys!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 08, 2022, 08:58:20 am
Again want to make it clear I’m only stating that playing passive will most of the time cause your opponents to become bored, and bored people won’t play the game. The best way to play at the moment is slow which in turn makes people passive. Of course this issue will be solved when someone much better at the game than my self decides to come up with a counter to this passive meta which I don’t see happening any time soon.
Well, it's already done and it's on the "European Groupfighting Series S2" channel. You can see that the finals last in general 20 minutes which is in my opinion short if we compare for example FRA vs ENG last year, the problem is that people just dosen't care, no ? Imagine being on a game where you have the possibility to have the finals VOD of two "aggressive" teams Poosy/Amaterasu with ALL the possible coms, which gives the possibility to answer the question "how can I give my team an aggressive style" but how many captains have already asked themselves this simple question ? people simply don't care and their reasoning doesn't go further than "me no stab because me die so me wait" because the game is not competitive enough.

The playstyle "blackmail" is just as ridiculous, nobody should change his playstyle for others, if it annoys the others keep doing it it's perfect, it is a "competitive" game and the goal is to defeat the other team, not to adapt to please them.  :P
Basically the point I’m trying to make, the game is slowly dying as very little people really care anymore and with less good players most just play passive as a way to get into better teams. Myself included.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: jakob. on February 08, 2022, 10:37:11 am
okok all fun and stuff but why are there so many boring players crying over other boring players¿¿
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: AchillesTheOne on February 08, 2022, 10:56:03 am
okok all fun and stuff but why are there so many boring players crying over other boring players¿¿

Ironic coming from a range kid 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 08, 2022, 10:57:12 am
“The game is dying”
Something i hear all the time for the past 4/5 years
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 08, 2022, 10:57:16 am
what the fuck is going on?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikus on February 08, 2022, 10:58:21 am
what the fuck is going on?

in short.

people cannot beat Animals so they go to FSE and cry about it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: jakob. on February 08, 2022, 11:05:42 am
okok all fun and stuff but why are there so many boring players crying over other boring players¿¿

Ironic coming from a range kid 8)
do u see my crying on fse tho :o

I also do not understand why every 1 thinks playing boring is “meta “ - take a look at the best players atm (and 2021), are any of them unbelievable boring or are those the kind of players that play aggressive and make u run to spawn
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 08, 2022, 11:06:27 am
“The game is dying”
Something i hear all the time for the past 4/5 years
I mean it practically has been dying that entire time aside from a slight resurgence in lockdown. It's not a lie, it's just not dying at a rapid pace.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Snowwi on February 08, 2022, 11:07:00 am
“The game is dying”
Something i hear all the time for the past 4/5 years
Sometimes I feel like people were already saying this when the game wasn't even out yet
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 08, 2022, 11:12:56 am
what the fuck is going on?

in short.

people cannot beat Animals so they go to FSE and cry about it
typical coco lmao  8) ;)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on February 08, 2022, 11:21:38 am
“The game is dying”
Something i hear all the time for the past 4/5 years
I mean it practically has been dying that entire time aside from a slight resurgence in lockdown. It's not a lie, it's just not dying at a rapid pace.

The game maybe is taking a tumble at the top but it’s not all bad news and downhill from here

Funny tho tbf, I’ve never seen so many weaker players playing the game and trying to hop
into competitive. Just look at what’s been going in L2 in general and especially in teams such as Crappers, PRY, Spectre and SF with all its 3 teams - it’s kinda nuts to see how many players are involved and still do care about getting better.

This is also indicative in regiments namely 33rd 92nd 15thYR and 45thN where a lot of weaker new players are able to compete not only within the top of L1 but also through to L2 regiments. I just personally haven’t seen this kind of enthusiasm amongst newer players since the start of lockdown, just look at the amount of member each of these regiments pull for not only competitive but also casual/ training events.

 My point is, NW in general isn’t entirely in a bad state as people, who only think and care about the top, put it out to be! Have some optimism people :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 08, 2022, 11:22:53 am
“The game is dying”
Something i hear all the time for the past 4/5 years
Sometimes I feel like people were already saying this when the game wasn't even out yet
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on February 08, 2022, 11:34:09 am
Skey and hold cock
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 08, 2022, 11:38:25 am
Spoiler
“The game is dying”
Something i hear all the time for the past 4/5 years
I mean it practically has been dying that entire time aside from a slight resurgence in lockdown. It's not a lie, it's just not dying at a rapid pace.

The game maybe is taking a tumble at the top but it’s not all bad news and downhill from here

Funny tho tbf, I’ve never seen so many weaker players playing the game and trying to hop
into competitive. Just look at what’s been going in L2 in general and especially in teams such as Crappers, PRY, Spectre and SF with all its 3 teams - it’s kinda nuts to see how many players are involved and still do care about getting better.

This is also indicative in regiments namely 33rd 92nd 15thYR and 45thN where a lot of weaker new players are able to compete not only within the top of L1 but also through to L2 regiments. I just personally haven’t seen this kind of enthusiasm amongst newer players since the start of lockdown, just look at the amount of member each of these regiments pull for not only competitive but also casual/ training events.

 My point is, NW in general isn’t entirely in a bad state as people, who only think and care about the top, put it out to be! Have some optimism people :)
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Yes of course, but if you are one of the 'better' players left there isn't a great deal of incentive to play at the moment. It's all well and good League 2 being fun but players like myself for example can't play there, we're forced to be stuck in a one-horse race. I mean that's not the reason I want to stop playing so much myself, I am just purely bored of the game at last for the most part. But I can understand why other 'higher' skill players might find the scene a bit dead at the moment. 
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on February 08, 2022, 11:51:12 am
It's also worth mentioning that the 'death' (or atleast decrease of both interest and skill from certain top players) does not equal the death of competitive NW as a whole.

Talking with certain people in the scene, we can totally see the interest for team groupfighting continue to heavily decrease whereas the regimental aspect get to remain healthy with sustainable numbers for the years to come.

I would still like to preserve what's left of the team groupfighting scene if possible because I believe it is very useful to perpetuating the regimental one but it goes without saying that it does not happen without certain changes.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Rikkert on February 08, 2022, 12:05:25 pm
Tournaments nowadays are a bit like Getafe in football, I don't necessarily hate the team for how they play, but I am sure as hell not going to watch any of their matches. Of course the difference is that if Getafe were to win something it would actually be meaningful and they would make money doing it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Muhataa on February 08, 2022, 12:14:02 pm
Skey and hold cock
MVP
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on February 08, 2022, 12:25:22 pm
If any Team is actually tryharding vs Animals and doesnt just let them win u have my respect

Id rather burn alive
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 08, 2022, 12:42:26 pm
If any Team is actually tryharding vs Animals and doesnt just let them win u have my respect

Id rather burn alive
I can't believe you saying this, you're such a hypocrite lmao
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on February 08, 2022, 12:46:49 pm
What people need is perspective. Remember 10+ years ago when there were no gf teams? Thats right, the game isnt dead, we are just in the kali yuga, prepare for the meteorite to destroy us all muahahahaha!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on February 08, 2022, 12:47:44 pm
I've been playing since 2012, people have been whining about slow players or cancer players (eg. when they dont do anything) but honestly, in the state the game and the scene is in right now, it's becoming ridiculous.

People will use whatever non rule-breaking  strategy they can use in order to succeed, and if a team or players succeed by being """cancer""" or too passive, then find a way to counter it instead of whining over it

cant believe people still take this game this seriously
if it bores you to death and makes you want to quit, maybe you never had the patience to play tournaments in the first place
wouldve loved to see some of your faces during the Ledger vs Hokej duel, THAT was true cancer and passive playstyle
just because somebody throws smart and timed stabs once in a bloodmoon doesn't mean they're cancer, they're just outplaying you if they kill you like that, just like zenon fucked me mid twice yesterday
yet i didn't log on FSE to cry about it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 08, 2022, 12:49:54 pm
But I still see the same players playing every tournament now for 5 years I'm not surprised its going downhill when Envy's only competition up and left and to think they all asked me to join as well how boring would that have been...

Luckily they got in shitters like me to make them weaker!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 08, 2022, 01:01:08 pm
But I still see the same players playing every tournament now for 5 years I'm not surprised its going downhill when Envy's only competition up and left and to think they all asked me to join as well how boring would that have been...

Luckily they got in shitters like me to make them weaker!
Envy_Bench yes
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 08, 2022, 01:01:31 pm
But I still see the same players playing every tournament now for 5 years I'm not surprised its going downhill when Envy's only competition up and left and to think they all asked me to join as well how boring would that have been...

Luckily they got in shitters like me to make them weaker!
Envy_Bench yes

mean cos not true
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on February 08, 2022, 01:04:18 pm
If any Team is actually tryharding vs Animals and doesnt just let them win u have my respect

Id rather burn alive
I would like to see a Wursti fire pit tbh !
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on February 08, 2022, 01:52:25 pm
If any Team is actually tryharding vs Animals and doesnt just let them win u have my respect

Id rather burn alive
We legit played as seriously as we could against them and got shat on. Truth is, it wasn't so much due to the passive playstyle but rather them just being better than us at pretty much every aspect of the game.

We may not be as good as Enigma but I still hope they took us as a serious challenge and played against us like they did against any other team.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on February 08, 2022, 03:08:06 pm
ppl can play how they want tbf. but imo they are limiting themselves to a certain level by being so passive. tough luck for average teams/players who want to have fun but sucks to suck ig
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 08, 2022, 03:10:46 pm
We legit played as seriously as we could against them and got shat on. Truth is, it wasn't so much due to the passive playstyle but rather them just being better than us at pretty much every aspect of the game.

agree to disagree

also phailur: ratio
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on February 08, 2022, 03:19:26 pm
But I still see the same players playing every tournament now for 5 years I'm not surprised its going downhill when Envy's only competition up and left and to think they all asked me to join as well how boring would that have been...

Luckily they got in shitters like me to make them weaker!
Envy_Bench yes

mean cos not true
waterboy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Barro112 on February 08, 2022, 03:20:27 pm
If any Team is actually tryharding vs Animals and doesnt just let them win u have my respect

Id rather burn alive
I can't believe you saying this, you're such a hypocrite lmao
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on February 08, 2022, 03:57:21 pm
ppl are so sad that we fucked almost everybody that say so much shit xD
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on February 08, 2022, 03:59:09 pm
If any Team is actually tryharding vs Animals and doesnt just let them win u have my respect

Id rather burn alive
dude you were shitting ur pants so hard on the mid and now u dont assume by saying u werent tryharding ???
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 08, 2022, 06:23:25 pm
If people don’t Wana play vs stacks and boring teams, try a draft league? I’ve seen them on Europe before so I know the system can work here too. We do multiple of these a year on NA and it helps with countering stacking teams. Much harder to stack a team when you are drafting from a pool and not just msging all of the top players who want to chase wins.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 08, 2022, 06:25:42 pm
If people don’t Wana play vs stacks and boring teams, try a draft league? I’ve seen them on Europe before so I know the system can work here too. We do multiple of these a year on NA and it helps with countering stacking teams. Much harder to stack a team when you are drafting from a pool and not just msging all of the top players who want to chase wins.
Fairly confident something along these lines will be the next group-fighting scene after NWWC
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 08, 2022, 06:33:09 pm
2v2
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 08, 2022, 06:42:35 pm
I'd like to see some smaller tourneys too like the 2v2's and whatnot rather than just major projects that require less commitments too before EGS resumes. I can't speak for everyone but I'm not that interested in putting hours into the game anymore but a one off 2v2 or something still seems appealing to me.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 08, 2022, 06:49:18 pm
4v4 1 cav 1 sword 1 bayonet 1 cav musket incoming
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on February 08, 2022, 06:50:20 pm
4v4 1 rifle 1 sword 1 bayonet 1 cav musket incoming
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Wursti on February 08, 2022, 06:50:37 pm
Some admin delete that idea asap
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on February 08, 2022, 08:24:42 pm
3v3
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tomppa on February 08, 2022, 11:43:19 pm
4v4 1 cav 1 sword 1 bayonet 1 cav musket incoming

Add a lancer and we good to go
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dusbled on February 08, 2022, 11:57:14 pm
4v4 1 cav 1 sword 1 bayonet 1 cav musket incoming

Add a lancer and we good to go

and cav needs to dismount in allcharge xd
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on February 08, 2022, 11:58:50 pm
I always said that HiReaper and Giorno flank would kill a game. Good fucking job guys!

giorno can't complete heists in gta, how tf is he gonna kill a game smh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alec053 on February 09, 2022, 12:16:34 am
Imagine playing to win in a competitive tournament. Yikes...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on February 09, 2022, 09:04:23 am
Bannerlord skirmish tournament when?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 09, 2022, 09:16:51 am
Bannerlord skirmish tournament when?

BEAST is already ongoing man
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on February 09, 2022, 12:14:59 pm
We legit played as seriously as we could against them and got shat on. Truth is, it wasn't so much due to the passive playstyle but rather them just being better than us at pretty much every aspect of the game.

agree to disagree

also phailur: ratio
blame crusher's feeding
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: 19boboy97 on February 09, 2022, 12:38:14 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 09, 2022, 12:39:14 pm
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 09, 2022, 12:49:25 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Maskman, Jones, Elsse easy!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 09, 2022, 12:52:10 pm
Don't forget the Mongolian Python.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saitama on February 09, 2022, 01:04:49 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Asia_KZ_Saitama,  Asia_PH_Glenn,  Asia_TH_Sticky
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Muhataa on February 09, 2022, 01:27:37 pm
im searching for volunteers that will play for mighty bulgaria
money after
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: [2ndHess] lukasoh on February 09, 2022, 01:45:26 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Asia_KZ_Saitama,  Asia_PH_Glenn,  Asia_TH_Sticky
I will cheer for this team
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Sasuke Uchiha on February 09, 2022, 02:59:47 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Asia_KZ_Saitama,  Asia_PH_Glenn,  Asia_TH_Sticky
I will cheer for this team
Wow Lukasoh is still alive .
 :D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on February 09, 2022, 03:11:34 pm
Don't forget the Mongolian Python.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: [2ndHess] lukasoh on February 09, 2022, 04:44:24 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Asia_KZ_Saitama,  Asia_PH_Glenn,  Asia_TH_Sticky
I will cheer for this team
Wow Lukasoh is still alive .
 :D
Yeah.. who are you? I dont know that name.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saitama on February 09, 2022, 05:06:30 pm
Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Asia_KZ_Saitama,  Asia_PH_Glenn,  Asia_TH_Sticky
I will cheer for this team
2ndHess cheerleaders are the best
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on February 09, 2022, 05:07:37 pm
EGS related discussions only please. NWWC has its on board.

Since SAU probably won't happen, could I form a Team Asia?

Anyone that has Asian Heritage or passport?
Asia_KZ_Saitama,  Asia_PH_Glenn,  Asia_TH_Sticky
I will cheer for this team
Wow Lukasoh is still alive .
 :D
Yeah.. who are you? I dont know that name.

its Bodya
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 09, 2022, 05:41:23 pm
im searching for volunteers that will play for mighty bulgaria
money after

you wont play with macedonia ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on February 09, 2022, 06:28:23 pm
Bannerlord skirmish tournament when?

BEAST is already ongoing man
but if you think FSE community is full auf autism and retards you should visit TW forum community
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 09, 2022, 06:32:31 pm
Bannerlord skirmish tournament when?

BEAST is already ongoing man
but if you think FSE community is full auf autism and retards you should visit TW forum community

??? what has that to do with egs or even bannerlord skirmish lol
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on February 09, 2022, 06:32:40 pm
im searching for volunteers that will play for mighty bulgaria
money after

you wont play with macedonia ?
(https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/ax7mr6K_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 09, 2022, 07:12:56 pm
Keep discussion to EGS and their handsome admins 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Muhataa on February 09, 2022, 08:48:20 pm
im searching for volunteers that will play for mighty bulgaria
money after

you wont play with macedonia ?
Macedonia is Bulgaria as many guys will say.
They disagree playing with us
for example Ledger & Slavic
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on February 09, 2022, 09:47:49 pm
im searching for volunteers that will play for mighty bulgaria
money after

you wont play with macedonia ?
Macedonia is Bulgaria as many guys will say.
They disagree playing with us
for example Ledger & Slavic
Well bulgaria  is basicly macedonia tho you guyz should play for them instead !!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on February 09, 2022, 10:10:41 pm
You guys have been asked multiple times, take this to the NWWC board. This is for EGS, any other posts will be removed now.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 14, 2022, 08:52:16 pm
#FreeTerrorist
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RedFeu on February 14, 2022, 09:01:31 pm
#FreeTerrorist
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on February 14, 2022, 09:03:33 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on February 14, 2022, 09:08:04 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tomppa on February 14, 2022, 09:23:29 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever


Letting someone outside the roster play in a tournament, priceless.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: ~NickCole~ on February 14, 2022, 11:12:31 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever


Letting someone outside the roster play in a tournament, priceless.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: charle_Lebrun on February 15, 2022, 01:37:27 am
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever


Letting someone outside the roster play in a tournament, priceless.

i think is a big dill when some league 1 player come in my team for Boost us ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 15, 2022, 02:10:40 am
3 tournament ban for smb trolling, a whole 1 tournament ban for someone with meme musket skin and also 1 tournament ban for someone from another league playing for a team a league below without notice


very questionable decisions, seems like you guys are just randomly spinning a wheel with different decisions written on it and randomly decide which sentence you'll give to ppl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 15, 2022, 09:12:09 am
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever

I mean, it would probably be longer, but you've got to realise there's only one tournament left...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Coco. on February 15, 2022, 10:14:05 am
3 tournament ban for smb trolling, a whole 1 tournament ban for someone with meme musket skin and also 1 tournament ban for someone from another league playing for a team a league below without notice


very questionable decisions, seems like you guys are just randomly spinning a wheel with different decisions written on it and randomly decide which sentence you'll give to ppl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: jakob. on February 15, 2022, 10:14:56 am
why don’t we just ban hireaper
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Steinmann on February 15, 2022, 11:04:23 am
why don’t we just ban hireaper
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on February 15, 2022, 11:11:47 am
why don’t we just ban hireaper

who
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on February 15, 2022, 01:54:04 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever

I mean, it would probably be longer, but you've got to realise there's only one tournament left...

^

Unless you want the bans to spill in the next season then I don't see why people cry around here
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on February 15, 2022, 02:32:10 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever

I mean, it would probably be longer, but you've got to realise there's only one tournament left...

^

Unless you want the bans to spill in the next season then I don't see why people cry around here
Why not a 3 season ban? Personally i find trolling to be despicable and worthy of such a punishment.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on February 15, 2022, 02:36:15 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever

I mean, it would probably be longer, but you've got to realise there's only one tournament left...

^

Unless you want the bans to spill in the next season then I don't see why people cry around here
Why not a 3 season ban? Personally i find trolling to be despicable and worthy of such a punishment.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DeaD on February 15, 2022, 02:52:35 pm
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/6901DbEbbm4o0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: charle_Lebrun on February 15, 2022, 04:51:57 pm
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/6901DbEbbm4o0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on February 15, 2022, 05:42:01 pm
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever

I mean, it would probably be longer, but you've got to realise there's only one tournament left...

^

Unless you want the bans to spill in the next season then I don't see why people cry around here

Oh right, that's why Fred got a 3 tourney ban that will expire halfway through the EGS S4 (if there is one) :)

Don't get me wrong, I'm personally only weirded out by Fred's punishment (and Janne's, but that's already in the past)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on February 15, 2022, 09:05:42 pm
Why are people being banned without presenting their evidence beforehand

Really makes you think
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on February 15, 2022, 11:10:59 pm
Why are people being banned without presenting their evidence beforehand

Really makes you think
i cant think
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on February 15, 2022, 11:19:28 pm
Why are people being banned without presenting their evidence beforehand

Really makes you think
Guilty till proven Innocent
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on February 15, 2022, 11:25:28 pm
Why are people being banned without presenting their evidence beforehand

Really makes you think
Guilty till proven Innocent
Stop watching TV dude
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on February 15, 2022, 11:26:05 pm
Why are people being banned without presenting their evidence beforehand

Really makes you think
Guilty till proven Innocent
Stop watching TV dude
No pc
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tomppa on February 16, 2022, 10:01:52 am
Why are people being banned without presenting their evidence beforehand

Really makes you think

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/aXIijEX.png)
[close]
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 16, 2022, 10:27:25 pm
53 pages of discussion but I can't find who asked?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on February 18, 2022, 10:39:07 am
3 tournament ban for recording somebody trolling, but only 1 tournament ban for playing under fake nickname and inflating the team's results... clever clever

I mean, it would probably be longer, but you've got to realise there's only one tournament left...

^

Unless you want the bans to spill in the next season then I don't see why people cry around here

Oh right, that's why Fred got a 3 tourney ban that will expire halfway through the EGS S4 (if there is one) :)

Don't get me wrong, I'm personally only weirded out by Fred's punishment (and Janne's, but that's already in the past)

Ah I didn't know about freds ban, sorry.

53 pages of discussion but I can't find who asked?

Cool attitude Mr admin
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on February 18, 2022, 08:00:48 pm
I am posting here because Marxeil locked the NWWC thread, my suggestion is to turn EGS into one of those randomised or where you pick or whatever the fuck those are called. Thank you for reading.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on April 03, 2022, 11:59:51 pm
ehm next season when?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on April 04, 2022, 12:09:19 am
ehm next season when?
Never, I actually enjoy playing cancer tournaments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Sasuke Uchiha on April 05, 2022, 04:30:18 am
ehm next season when?
Autumn , or end of July-August
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on April 08, 2022, 05:45:11 pm
ehm next season when?
Autumn , or end of July-August

nice to know xD

there was no discussion about it, as we surely will wait for NWWC to finish
so probably you will get the next updates in maybe one month or little bit longer
something about that
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 08, 2022, 05:48:49 pm
ehm next season when?
Autumn , or end of July-August

nice to know xD

there was no discussion about it, as we surely will wait for NWWC to finish
so probably you will get the next updates in maybe one month or little bit longer
something about that

maybe a fantasy league after NWWC. Havent had that in over 2 years
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on April 08, 2022, 05:49:32 pm
ehm next season when?
Autumn , or end of July-August

nice to know xD

there was no discussion about it, as we surely will wait for NWWC to finish
so probably you will get the next updates in maybe one month or little bit longer
something about that

maybe a fantasy league after NWWC. Havent had that in over 2 years

host one
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on April 08, 2022, 05:56:07 pm
Fantasy leagues are a good laugh ngl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on April 08, 2022, 07:12:52 pm
I was on about doing a fantasy league over the course of a 4 weeks. 5v5 6v6 7v7 then playoff all in a month. Too long and it doesn’t last. Auctions are long but fun to do tbh so that should be done!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Melsyo on April 08, 2022, 09:02:34 pm
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on April 08, 2022, 10:36:01 pm
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
smh if I did it I’d make sure it was done properly lmao! This ain’t no Smylie or Herishey botch job
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on April 08, 2022, 10:46:06 pm
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
smh if I did it I’d make sure it was done properly lmao! This ain’t no Smylie or Herishey botch job
I hosted the first one and literally finished it you donkey.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on April 08, 2022, 11:38:04 pm
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
smh if I did it I’d make sure it was done properly lmao! This ain’t no Smylie or Herishey botch job
I hosted the first one and literally finished it you donkey.

Did u do it without rigging and all teams that started, finishing??? Shit host herishey
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on April 09, 2022, 12:14:42 am
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
smh if I did it I’d make sure it was done properly lmao! This ain’t no Smylie or Herishey botch job
I hosted the first one and literally finished it you donkey.

Did u do it without rigging and all teams that started, finishing??? Shit host herishey
Yeah, I remember an EGS series where all teams finished!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on April 09, 2022, 07:52:26 pm
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
smh if I did it I’d make sure it was done properly lmao! This ain’t no Smylie or Herishey botch job
I hosted the first one and literally finished it you donkey.

Did u do it without rigging and all teams that started, finishing??? Shit host herishey
Yeah, I remember an EGS series where all teams finished!
Meh, fair enough but it won’t have cheating and rigging from the head admin :) xoxo
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on April 10, 2022, 02:27:43 pm
Spoiler
how about auctions without ever actually playing the matches 8)
smh if I did it I’d make sure it was done properly lmao! This ain’t no Smylie or Herishey botch job
I hosted the first one and literally finished it you donkey.

Did u do it without rigging and all teams that started, finishing??? Shit host herishey
Yeah, I remember an EGS series where all teams finished!
Meh, fair enough but it won’t have cheating and rigging from the head admin :) xoxo
[close]
Not so sure about that one either.  ::)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Sasuke Uchiha on April 30, 2022, 12:48:17 am
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 30, 2022, 05:42:57 am
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Glenn on April 30, 2022, 08:52:19 am
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me

cause you never left
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on April 30, 2022, 11:44:14 am
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me

cause you never left

wtf does that mean

Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me

irrelevant person
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on April 30, 2022, 12:38:24 pm
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me
I didn't know you were one
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Nock on April 30, 2022, 04:17:29 pm
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me
I didn't know you were one
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Sasuke Uchiha on April 30, 2022, 04:55:51 pm
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me
I didn't know you were one
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Saxon on May 01, 2022, 09:43:36 pm
Comeback EGS on may pls we are miss so much <<<333
So boring without EGS
@darktemplar , @chainsor , @voluble
Literally mentioned every head admin apart from me
I didn't know you were one
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on May 31, 2022, 12:34:56 am
any news?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on May 31, 2022, 10:56:19 am
EGS killed the comp scene for months just leave it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dusbled on May 31, 2022, 01:30:47 pm
Bring EGS League 2 back, that was great and the amount of teams that have also signed up for Rookie Tournament of Bodya shows the interest of shitty players like me in a fair competition with chances to actually win a match xd
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on May 31, 2022, 01:36:13 pm
Bring EGS League 2 back, that was great and the amount of teams that have also signed up for Rookie Tournament of Bodya shows the interest of shitty players like me in a fair competition with chances to actually win a match xd
Please no, then I need to win it again
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kong on May 31, 2022, 02:12:24 pm
Bring EGS League 2 back, that was great and the amount of teams that have also signed up for Rookie Tournament of Bodya shows the interest of shitty players like me in a fair competition with chances to actually win a match xd
Please no, then I need to win it again
mamba mentality
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on May 31, 2022, 02:13:54 pm
Bring EGS League 2 back, that was great and the amount of teams that have also signed up for Rookie Tournament of Bodya shows the interest of shitty players like me in a fair competition with chances to actually win a match xd
Please no, then I need to win it again
mamba mentality
it's the truth, deal with it!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on May 31, 2022, 02:26:59 pm
EGS killed the comp scene for months just leave it
EGS wasnt that bad :(
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on May 31, 2022, 03:14:18 pm
EGS League 2 was sick.

Please bring it back :')
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on May 31, 2022, 03:28:27 pm
Add bodya to the EGS team
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on May 31, 2022, 03:37:06 pm
Add bodya to the EGS team
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: JackieChan on June 02, 2022, 08:56:31 am
Bring EGS League 2 back, that was great and the amount of teams that have also signed up for Rookie Tournament of Bodya shows the interest of shitty players like me in a fair competition with chances to actually win a match xd
Please no, then I need to win it again
Jordan reform incoming?

And yes, League 2 was so much fun. Really enjoyable and soooo close.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fluxyy on June 11, 2022, 02:20:16 pm
Bring back the egs league 2
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on June 13, 2022, 03:46:32 pm
Add bodya to the EGS team
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Witold on June 13, 2022, 08:07:34 pm
Add bodya to the EGS team
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 03:23:47 pm
Soon.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on September 27, 2022, 03:35:39 pm
Soon.

stealing my post, great
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 03:36:23 pm
Let the ATS people host EGS, I'm sure it will be fine!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on September 27, 2022, 03:37:48 pm
Let the ATS people host EGS, I'm sure it will be fine!

dont forget which maniac head admin is
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 04:40:37 pm
Let the ATS people host EGS, I'm sure it will be fine!
Let vegi back in the admin team it worked so well in the past
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 05:17:35 pm
Let the ATS people host EGS, I'm sure it will be fine!
Let vegi back in the admin team it worked so well in the past
Indeed, I didn't do anything wrong. But I'd decline the offer since cba dealing with you retards
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on September 28, 2022, 04:40:34 pm
Let the ATS people host EGS, I'm sure it will be fine!
Let vegi back in the admin team it worked so well in the past
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on September 28, 2022, 04:41:23 pm
I think: in today's realities, we can easily assemble about 10 teams for the first league, and 10 teams for the second.
If we try hard, of course.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 28, 2022, 07:21:00 pm
I think: in today's realities, we can easily assemble about 10 teams for the first league, and 10 teams for the second.
If we try hard, of course.
we dont need 20 hashira teams, ty
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 13, 2022, 12:23:16 am
I look forward to the new season, more than the New Year.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fluxyy on October 13, 2022, 12:32:02 am
I think: in today's realities, we can easily assemble about 10 teams for the first league, and 10 teams for the second.
If we try hard, of course.
Hi gf at 8pm ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on October 13, 2022, 09:48:32 am
I look forward to the new season, more than the New Year.
look on your sperm
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 14, 2022, 11:41:39 am
aaah the return
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 14, 2022, 06:08:39 pm
aaah the return
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on October 14, 2022, 06:48:36 pm
Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 14, 2022, 06:49:22 pm
plz no fietta and archangel will just flood the thread
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 14, 2022, 06:50:06 pm
plz no fietta and archangel will just flood the thread
indeed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 14, 2022, 06:52:29 pm
Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.
There is no way to prevent the use of this program at the moment.
Forcing everyone to record their gameplay , or take screenshots during the game each round ( how that was in Movement tournament) -  will be a difficult task.
We will not be able to control or prevent players from using this software.

Who wants to - he will use it without fail, regardless of the tournament restrictions. There are no utilities, programs or features that would limit the entry of players with this software to the server.

In this regard, I believe that it is useless to prohibit it somehow.

Conclusion..This is a cheat program in the public domain. Anyone can use it, download, install and play with it. The only choice is whether this or that player wants to use it - that's all.
We cannot force all players to use the program, just as we cannot force all players to opt out of the program. Everyone makes their own choice.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 14, 2022, 07:03:07 pm
Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.
There is no way to prevent the use of this program at the moment.
Forcing everyone to record their gameplay , or take screenshots during the game each round ( how that was in Movement tournament) -  will be a difficult task.
We will not be able to control or prevent players from using this software.

Who wants to - he will use it without fail, regardless of the tournament restrictions. There are no utilities, programs or features that would limit the entry of players with this software to the server.

In this regard, I believe that it is useless to prohibit it somehow.

Conclusion..This is a cheat program in the public domain. Anyone can use it, download, install and play with it. The only choice is whether this or that player wants to use it - that's all.
We cannot force all players to use the program, just as we cannot force all players to opt out of the program. Everyone makes their own choice.
?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 14, 2022, 07:04:19 pm
There is no built-in software on the server that prevents players with WSE2 from accessing the server - is there not?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 14, 2022, 07:05:44 pm
Yet. Gibby is currently looking at a way to put in a built in system
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 14, 2022, 07:06:42 pm
it doesn't block for you get over it pussies
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Desant on October 14, 2022, 07:07:58 pm
Yet. Gibby is currently looking at a way to put in a built in system
f
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 14, 2022, 07:08:26 pm
Neither in the rules of the tournament, nor elsewhere on the forum, so far it is not written that this program is banned. Only coloured guns are banned.
We will wait. Hopefully WSE2 - will be banned for use.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on October 14, 2022, 07:14:22 pm
Neither in the rules of the tournament, nor elsewhere on the forum, so far it is not written that this program is banned. Only coloured guns are banned.
We will wait. Hopefully WSE2 - will be banned for use.
Coloured musket arent banned from the servers, they are bannable, so you will just be ban if you are caught using it but if no one ask you for a screenshot you will never be ban.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 18, 2022, 12:08:48 am
Some teams are unable to apply to register for League Two because of the nine-player season requirement.
We kindly ask you to reduce the number of players per team to at least 7, so that teams that don't have enough active players can register.
Thank you.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 12:10:08 am
That’s a bad idea cuz leauge 2 teams are famously less reliable for numbers than leauge 1. If you only have 7 players I’m sure you can still sign up.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 18, 2022, 12:12:45 am
The registration page says that a League Two team must submit nine players. 0/9
There are even nine nicknames  listed and written in the registration template.
Change the template then, and allow seven players to take part in the tournament instead of the nine required.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 12:16:53 am
Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.

I'll make it simple

Pros:
More stable smoother game (though after now trying it, not a big deal)

Cons:
FoV Slider (able to see a foot behind you, obviously advantageous and no one can deny that)
Banner Viewing (not entirely relevant but allows for line-ups)
Potential hidden 'heal' commands which don't get added to logs (unknown, but Flashkodr mentioned that you are able to send the server commands to heal players etc discreetly)

Somewhere in between:
Improved hitbox registry (does something where you're less likely to TK due to some ragdoll stuff)

Solution:
WSE2 was recently updated and a server-side FoV lock is in place, this will mitigate the most major issue with WSE2, if that doesn't work then just ban it.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 12:18:36 am
I could be wrong but I’m fairly sure that’s more of a maximum allowed than a minimum required. As long as you meet the tournaments required amount (this season 6) there isn’t an issue, the issue arises when you don’t bring enough to the tournament day which may cause your team to be removed for a team with enough.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 12:19:19 am
Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.

I'll make it simple

Pros:
More stable smoother game (though after now trying it, not a big deal)

Cons:
FoV Slider (able to see a foot behind you, obviously advantageous and no one can deny that)
Banner Viewing (not entirely relevant but allows for line-ups)
Potential hidden 'heal' commands which don't get added to logs (unknown, but Flashkodr mentioned that you are able to send the server commands to heal players etc discreetly)

Solution:
WSE2 was recently updated and a server-side FoV lock is in place, this will mitigate the most major issue with WSE2, if that doesn't work then just ban it.
No plz I want 35 pointless pages or I refuse to accept any points!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 18, 2022, 12:23:12 am
(https://i.gyazo.com/ef08aefc4f3bf306f22a1f90206e74a2.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 18, 2022, 12:33:53 am
I donated my monthly salary to K700 for new WSE version
I DONT SEE ANY POINT TO PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT WSE2
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on October 18, 2022, 12:46:16 am
i think we all saw hireapers thread idk why need it should be done again. if you can get the server-side ban for the fov slider that's good, but if you can't, you should do a poll whether to ban wse.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 12:52:07 am
I donated my monthly salary to K700 for new WSE version
I DONT SEE ANY POINT TO PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT WSE2

You've played the game without it for years you buffoon...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on October 18, 2022, 08:04:28 am
The registration page says that a League Two team must submit nine players. 0/9
There are even nine nicknames  listed and written in the registration template.
Change the template then, and allow seven players to take part in the tournament instead of the nine required.

I could be wrong but I’m fairly sure that’s more of a maximum allowed than a minimum required. As long as you meet the tournaments required amount (this season 6) there isn’t an issue, the issue arises when you don’t bring enough to the tournament day which may cause your team to be removed for a team with enough.

"2. Minimum sign up is 7 out of 8 players for League 1, then it will be 8 out of 9 for League 2."

with that being said

About the WSE2 thing: We're on it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Coco. on October 18, 2022, 09:18:38 am
i think we all saw hireapers thread idk why need it should be done again. if you can get the server-side ban for the fov slider that's good, but if you can't, you should do a poll whether to ban wse.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 18, 2022, 11:12:48 am
I donated my monthly salary to K700 for new WSE version
I DONT SEE ANY POINT TO PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT WSE2

You've played the game without it for years you buffoon...
another one circle?
btw i answered on this question in hireapers thread
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 18, 2022, 04:18:09 pm
I donated my monthly salary to K700 for new WSE version
I DONT SEE ANY POINT TO PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT WSE2

You've played the game without it for years you buffoon...

Same here. Yes I played without it for years. And it was always the worst part about the game, animation glitches and stuff happening/not happening on your screen that others see/don’t see. WSE2 removes most of this. Hence why I’m not gonna play without it. I’ll pull out of EGS if needed.
(Btw my FOV is 75 in game so blitz can’t say I’m using it to FOV hack)

Also considering people have paid real money to actually get the developer of the mod to make it usable. I think it should be allowed. Or get a refund from the guy and give everyone’s money back.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on October 18, 2022, 04:19:05 pm
I donated my monthly salary to K700 for new WSE version
I DONT SEE ANY POINT TO PLAY THIS GAME WITHOUT WSE2

You've played the game without it for years you buffoon...

Same here. Yes I played without it for years. And it was always the worst part about the game, animation glitches and stuff happening/not happening on your screen that others see/don’t see. WSE2 removes most of this. Hence why I’m not gonna play without it. I’ll pull out of EGS if needed.
(Btw my FOV is 75 in game so blitz can’t say I’m using it to FOV hack)
same
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 18, 2022, 04:34:46 pm
But reality FOV 100!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 05:30:09 pm
I’ll pull out of EGS if needed.

Weak minded and cringe
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 05:40:25 pm
(Btw my FOV is 75 in game so blitz can’t say I’m using it to FOV hack)
Don’t remember asking + rent free + week minded and cringe
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 18, 2022, 05:43:40 pm
(Btw my FOV is 75 in game so blitz can’t say I’m using it to FOV hack)
Don’t remember asking + rent free + week minded and cringe
stop acting gay
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 05:44:50 pm
Less talking more panic stacking
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 18, 2022, 05:45:31 pm
FOV doesn’t block for you you’re all cringe
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 18, 2022, 05:46:07 pm
Less talking more panic stacking
askers?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 05:47:36 pm
FOV doesn’t block for you you’re all cringe

How are you this retarded
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on October 18, 2022, 05:47:54 pm
Less talking more panic stacking
askers?
how bout you ask deez nuts
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 18, 2022, 05:49:23 pm
FOV doesn’t block for you you’re all cringe

How are you this retarded

Who asked?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 05:52:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/h8SFy1A.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 18, 2022, 05:54:54 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/h8SFy1A.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on October 18, 2022, 05:56:17 pm
IF there is no WSE2 in this tournament i wont be playing
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 06:00:53 pm
IF there is no WSE2 in this tournament i wont be playing

Nice another retard down  8)

Same here. Yes I played without it for years. And it was always the worst part about the game, animation glitches and stuff happening/not happening on your screen that others see/don’t see. WSE2 removes most of this.

You say most, but animation glitches are still very prevalent in WSE2
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: higened243ed on October 18, 2022, 06:06:37 pm
IF there is no WSE2 in this tournament i wont be playing

return to hell creature
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on October 18, 2022, 06:13:13 pm
(Btw my FOV is 75 in game so blitz can’t say I’m using it to FOV hack)
Don’t remember asking + rent free + week minded and cringe

(https://i.gyazo.com/3270a9fa39ae42fe1f30602312163be7.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 06:16:46 pm
real sigma males think monthly
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 18, 2022, 06:25:30 pm
(Btw my FOV is 75 in game so blitz can’t say I’m using it to FOV hack)
Don’t remember asking + rent free + week minded and cringe

I’ll pull out of EGS if needed.

Weak minded and cringe

Look how cute you two are. Another NW couple about to happen? Poor Gibby
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 18, 2022, 06:48:11 pm
fietta gets more pussy than you lol pipe down
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: maskmanmarks on October 18, 2022, 06:48:14 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/h8SFy1A.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 18, 2022, 06:50:12 pm
IF there is no WSE2 in this tournament i wont be playing

Nice another retard down  8)

Same here. Yes I played without it for years. And it was always the worst part about the game, animation glitches and stuff happening/not happening on your screen that others see/don’t see. WSE2 removes most of this.

You say most, but animation glitches are still very prevalent in WSE2
hey lil fietta, maybe stop insulting everyone who fucked ur throat?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on October 18, 2022, 06:50:20 pm
real sigma males think monthly

real sigma males don’t think 💯💯👑👑
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 18, 2022, 07:00:02 pm
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 18, 2022, 07:16:03 pm
fietta gets more pussy than you lol pipe down
Wow, that must have hit a nerve. Bless
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 07:18:34 pm
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum

I've tried WSE2, animation glitches are still as prevalent as with the steam version, nothing changes, it just makes it smoother (and for me not much at all) - something of which doesn't warrant its use if it means having all the other disadvantages to come with it, not playing the game because of WSE2 being banned is extremely weak minded and maybe you quitting would be beneficial. Please just think a little more.

I even discussed the animation glitches with other WSE2 users and the same issues still persist, it doesn't fix that, that doesn't change lmao.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 18, 2022, 07:33:26 pm
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum

I've tried WSE2, animation glitches are still as prevalent as with the steam version, nothing changes, it just makes it smoother (and for me not much at all) - something of which doesn't warrant its use if it means having all the other disadvantages to come with it, not playing the game because of WSE2 being banned is extremely weak minded and maybe you quitting would be beneficial. Please just think a little more.

I even discussed the animation glitches with other WSE2 users and the same issues still persist, it doesn't fix that, that doesn't change lmao.
Legit for me, removes sideblock glitch, and other animation glitches like in the steam version it would show I double block but still get hit with a stab. On WSE2 in similar situations it will only show one of the blocks.
You cannot say it changes nothing. You should know of all people, begging Envy for the download link back in S3.
Wait to see what happens with the competitive version before starting a discussion about WSE2. This could all be pointless. Not sure why it was even brought up considering how much discussion has already happened on HiReapers thread.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on October 18, 2022, 07:43:34 pm
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum

I've tried WSE2, animation glitches are still as prevalent as with the steam version, nothing changes, it just makes it smoother (and for me not much at all) - something of which doesn't warrant its use if it means having all the other disadvantages to come with it, not playing the game because of WSE2 being banned is extremely weak minded and maybe you quitting would be beneficial. Please just think a little more.

I even discussed the animation glitches with other WSE2 users and the same issues still persist, it doesn't fix that, that doesn't change lmao.
Legit for me, removes sideblock glitch, and other animation glitches like in the steam version it would show I double block but still get hit with a stab. On WSE2 in similar situations it will only show one of the blocks.
You cannot say it changes nothing. You should know of all people, begging Envy for the download link back in S3.
Wait to see what happens with the competitive version before starting a discussion about WSE2. This could all be pointless. Not sure why it was even brought up considering how much discussion has already happened on HiReapers thread.

Fairly certain SB glitch doesn't exist for me anymore. Have used it at times to tell whether someone else wasn't using WSE2 since they unfortunately sometimes get caught running around with a SB like a mong :P
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 18, 2022, 07:53:19 pm
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum

I've tried WSE2, animation glitches are still as prevalent as with the steam version, nothing changes, it just makes it smoother (and for me not much at all) - something of which doesn't warrant its use if it means having all the other disadvantages to come with it, not playing the game because of WSE2 being banned is extremely weak minded and maybe you quitting would be beneficial. Please just think a little more.

I even discussed the animation glitches with other WSE2 users and the same issues still persist, it doesn't fix that, that doesn't change lmao.
Legit for me, removes sideblock glitch, and other animation glitches like in the steam version it would show I double block but still get hit with a stab. On WSE2 in similar situations it will only show one of the blocks.
You cannot say it changes nothing. You should know of all people, begging Envy for the download link back in S3.
Wait to see what happens with the competitive version before starting a discussion about WSE2. This could all be pointless. Not sure why it was even brought up considering how much discussion has already happened on HiReapers thread.

Fairly certain SB glitch doesn't exist for me anymore. Have used it at times to tell whether someone else wasn't using WSE2 since they unfortunately sometimes get caught running around with a SB like a mong :P

Asked Python and can confirm he still gets it (literally happened in a 2v2 we did earlier)

begging Envy for the download link back in S3.

Now you're just lying out ur teeth cos Zeyden told you a load of bollocks on teamspeak to stir the pot, didn't even know it existed when I was in Envy you buffoon.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: [Stryker] on October 18, 2022, 07:56:18 pm
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 18, 2022, 08:50:59 pm
Spoiler
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum

I've tried WSE2, animation glitches are still as prevalent as with the steam version, nothing changes, it just makes it smoother (and for me not much at all) - something of which doesn't warrant its use if it means having all the other disadvantages to come with it, not playing the game because of WSE2 being banned is extremely weak minded and maybe you quitting would be beneficial. Please just think a little more.

I even discussed the animation glitches with other WSE2 users and the same issues still persist, it doesn't fix that, that doesn't change lmao.
Legit for me, removes sideblock glitch, and other animation glitches like in the steam version it would show I double block but still get hit with a stab. On WSE2 in similar situations it will only show one of the blocks.
You cannot say it changes nothing. You should know of all people, begging Envy for the download link back in S3.
Wait to see what happens with the competitive version before starting a discussion about WSE2. This could all be pointless. Not sure why it was even brought up considering how much discussion has already happened on HiReapers thread.

Fairly certain SB glitch doesn't exist for me anymore. Have used it at times to tell whether someone else wasn't using WSE2 since they unfortunately sometimes get caught running around with a SB like a mong :P

Asked Python and can confirm he still gets it (literally happened in a 2v2 we did earlier)
begging Envy for the download link back in S3.

Now you're just lying out ur teeth cos Zeyden told you a load of bollocks on teamspeak to stir the pot, didn't even know it existed when I was in Envy you buffoon.
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 18, 2022, 08:52:37 pm
Envy should be stripped from their Palmares like Lance Armstrong
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 18, 2022, 08:53:06 pm
Envy should be stripped from their Palmares like Lance Armstrong
And Amaterasu if you go by that logic
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 18, 2022, 08:55:15 pm
Spoiler
As i said before your IQ is below 80. People are so arranged that they will not worsen their conditions whatever its food or game

Whats the point in playin M&B with slowmotion and glitched anims? I dont see any reason to play ATS or EGS without WSE2.

For YEARS t1-2 played with this, so many tourmanents passed with WSE2. For sure i dont see that someone blocking every backstab or using bigger fov for destroy everything.

You dont even start poll for WSE like pussy

And you starts insult people because they dont agreed with you, such scum

I've tried WSE2, animation glitches are still as prevalent as with the steam version, nothing changes, it just makes it smoother (and for me not much at all) - something of which doesn't warrant its use if it means having all the other disadvantages to come with it, not playing the game because of WSE2 being banned is extremely weak minded and maybe you quitting would be beneficial. Please just think a little more.

I even discussed the animation glitches with other WSE2 users and the same issues still persist, it doesn't fix that, that doesn't change lmao.
Legit for me, removes sideblock glitch, and other animation glitches like in the steam version it would show I double block but still get hit with a stab. On WSE2 in similar situations it will only show one of the blocks.
You cannot say it changes nothing. You should know of all people, begging Envy for the download link back in S3.
Wait to see what happens with the competitive version before starting a discussion about WSE2. This could all be pointless. Not sure why it was even brought up considering how much discussion has already happened on HiReapers thread.

Fairly certain SB glitch doesn't exist for me anymore. Have used it at times to tell whether someone else wasn't using WSE2 since they unfortunately sometimes get caught running around with a SB like a mong :P

Asked Python and can confirm he still gets it (literally happened in a 2v2 we did earlier)
begging Envy for the download link back in S3.

Now you're just lying out ur teeth cos Zeyden told you a load of bollocks on teamspeak to stir the pot, didn't even know it existed when I was in Envy you buffoon.
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 18, 2022, 08:55:40 pm
Envy should be stripped from their Palmares like Lance Armstrong
And Amaterasu if you go by that logic
Where's Oprah Winfrey when you need her
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on October 19, 2022, 02:17:29 pm
Tbf I still get all the animation glitches with WSE2 including SB glitch and no animations, and a bit of teleporting through ppl as well now and then
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 19, 2022, 03:00:23 pm
Tbf I still get all the animation glitches with WSE2 including SB glitch and no animations, and a bit of teleporting through ppl as well now and then

Sounds like 100 degree CPU problems
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 04:42:11 pm
Tbf I still get all the animation glitches with WSE2 including SB glitch and no animations, and a bit of teleporting through ppl as well now and then

Sounds like 100 degree CPU problems

Yeah I don’t accept your statement at all python. Seeing as you’re inept with computers.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on October 19, 2022, 05:42:54 pm
Tbf I still get all the animation glitches with WSE2 including SB glitch and no animations, and a bit of teleporting through ppl as well now and then

Sounds like 100 degree CPU problems

Yeah I don’t accept your statement at all python. Seeing as you’re inept with computers.

I don't care what you accept retard
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on October 19, 2022, 08:16:11 pm
can someone explain to me how to install it?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on October 19, 2022, 08:36:43 pm
Spoiler
Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.

I'll make it simple

Pros:
More stable smoother game (though after now trying it, not a big deal)

Cons:
FoV Slider (able to see a foot behind you, obviously advantageous and no one can deny that)
Banner Viewing (not entirely relevant but allows for line-ups)
Potential hidden 'heal' commands which don't get added to logs (unknown, but Flashkodr mentioned that you are able to send the server commands to heal players etc discreetly)

Somewhere in between:
Improved hitbox registry (does something where you're less likely to TK due to some ragdoll stuff)

Solution:
WSE2 was recently updated and a server-side FoV lock is in place, this will mitigate the most major issue with WSE2, if that doesn't work then just ban it.
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The game is massively improved with WSE2. The game breaking teleportation glitch is removed with the client (where you teleport with frame caps above 150) which is essential for people with higher hz monitors, as otherwise they would be forced to play with their non-native hz rate, which is a massive quality downgrade and can introduce input lag. Chuck vid (https://youtu.be/OqFEX9neEfA/) Example with Chuckster but this applies to any fps over 150.

Apart from that, the huge fps boost from WSE2 helps people with mid-low tier PCs to achieve that minimum 144 fps, which is useful for any competitive event. Obviously a collection of anecdotes, but getting sent so many messages on steam on how the client has helped people with their game lag, it seems it will only help the competitive scene for this game and try to keep it more fun.

WSE2's FOV slider is obviously the biggest upset that comes with the client. However, I still believe the advantages of the FOV slider are being overexaggerated. Personally, I play on default fov and hear from a lot of top players on how the FOV slider has minimal impact, except in rotations(still minor as you get the same effect from angling yourself properly).

Bannerviewing? If anything, this would seriously inhibit your ability to play as you would be seeing the enemy's banners during any sort of melee (open melee, close rotation switches). Potential hidden heal commands? This seems like bullshit and would need a followup.

Improved hitbox registry is also a miss as people have plenty of teamkills with the client or miss stabs while people are stunned or any other base game breaking glitches. Sideblock glitches and no animation stabs still exist within the client as well.

Regarding the FOV Slider, I have also found some quite interesting information.

Remembering back to watching a 3kliksphilip video 3KLIKS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsp7VIKTuY/) . Warband's FOV system is identical in that the FOV is calculated through the value of the base FOV along with the aspect ratio of the resolution you play with.

https://youtu.be/frsp7VIKTuY?t=97 You can see how playing at a resolution of 1920x540 grants you a massive field of view advantage. Playing on a resolution of 1920x800 is equivalent to playing on 1920x1080 with the fov slider set to 90

This is also on the default steam game.

1920x1080 with Default FOV
(https://i.imgur.com/8MqpbnZ.jpg)
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1920x800 with Default FOV
(https://i.imgur.com/ffr4beg.jpg)
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1920x1080 with 90 FOV
(https://i.imgur.com/IcNOc9D.jpg)
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The FOVs were customised using them from a texture pack, which was the most common way people had an FOV slider. It was literally in a 92nd texture pack.

As you can all see, the use of a simple resolution change(done with either CRU or through your graphics panel settings) grants you a greater advantage, as it only eliminates your vertical vision (which has almost no utility in NW anyway) and doesn't introduce a weird distortion on your screen.

In the end, the solution is already here with Gibby's 50 euro modification to WSE2. However, if it doesn't function correctly, then it seems the only valid options would be to straight up allow it or introduce a poll for the players to decide.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 19, 2022, 08:37:35 pm
why did you become retarded HiReaper?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on October 19, 2022, 08:50:08 pm
can't wait for the one sentence reply
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on October 19, 2022, 09:06:09 pm
Improved hitbox registry is also a miss as people have plenty of teamkills with the client or miss stabs while people are stunned or any other base game breaking glitches. Sideblock glitches and no animation stabs still exist within the client as well.

I concur and imagine most of this belief is placebo.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:07:09 pm
Your 1920 x 800 and 1920 x 1080 90fov pictures are the same photo (by imgur link), but I'm curious to see what you're talking about
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 09:07:40 pm
Improved hitbox registry is also a miss as people have plenty of teamkills with the client or miss stabs while people are stunned or any other base game breaking glitches. Sideblock glitches and no animation stabs still exist within the client as well.

I concur and imagine most of this belief is placebo.

Ye after my previous statement. Sod's Law, I get the sideblock glitch in a gf yesterday...
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on October 19, 2022, 09:09:37 pm
Your 1920 x 800 and 1920 x 1080 90fov pictures are the same photo (by imgur link), but I'm curious to see what you're talking about

Imgur album got fucked. Fixed.

You can watch the 3kliksphilip video at the timestamp and understand.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:12:53 pm
BRO that 90FOV wtf you can see a metre behind you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 09:14:15 pm
BRO that 90FOV wtf you can see a metre behind you
And you've been using it for about a year now on the dl  :o  Mad
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on October 19, 2022, 09:15:28 pm
BRO that 90FOV wtf you can see a metre behind you

Are you going to just ignore the horizontal vision you get from a simple resolution change compared to 1920x1080?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:16:34 pm
BRO that 90FOV wtf you can see a metre behind you

Are you going to just ignore the horizontal vision you get from a simple resolution change compared to 1920x1080?

Ye that's not ideal, but if you can change your resolution in the base game, then it's ok, but it still doesn't let you see a metre behind you, which was the main cause for concern as shown in fralla's video. We gathered that larger screens or different aspect ratios give more horizontal vision, which as the point arch angel said, but the whole seeing behind you thing is a bit of a stretch.

Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on October 19, 2022, 09:20:34 pm
So Fenton was using FOV hacks all along when he was using a square monitor! This community is fucking disgraceful
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on October 19, 2022, 09:21:23 pm
Spoiler
BRO that 90FOV wtf you can see a metre behind you

Are you going to just ignore the horizontal vision you get from a simple resolution change compared to 1920x1080?

Ye that's not ideal, but if you can change your resolution in the base game, then it's ok, but it still doesn't let you see a metre behind you, which was the main cause for concern as shown in fralla's video. We gathered that larger screens or different aspect ratios give more horizontal vision, which as the point arch angel said, but the whole seeing behind you thing is a bit of a stretch.

Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!
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Seeing a bit behind you is case for banning a client which has so much more utility(as explained in the post) ? I'd still doubt how much impact it would even be to see behind you.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 19, 2022, 09:22:17 pm
reaps has spoken inshallah we can move on now
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:23:24 pm
Spoiler
BRO that 90FOV wtf you can see a metre behind you

Are you going to just ignore the horizontal vision you get from a simple resolution change compared to 1920x1080?

Ye that's not ideal, but if you can change your resolution in the base game, then it's ok, but it still doesn't let you see a metre behind you, which was the main cause for concern as shown in fralla's video. We gathered that larger screens or different aspect ratios give more horizontal vision, which as the point arch angel said, but the whole seeing behind you thing is a bit of a stretch.
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Seeing a bit behind you is case for banning a client which has so much more utility(as explained in the post) ? I'd still doubt how much impact it would even be to see behind you.

In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on October 19, 2022, 09:25:40 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:26:10 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though, I understand your passion for WSE2 resorts you to ad hominem, but we're talking about the game here

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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?


And then the tables turned
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 09:28:26 pm
Quote
Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though
Got caught out and and can only say 'cringe'

Big up Reaps for speaking the truth
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Bagins on October 19, 2022, 09:29:14 pm
Fietta shut up
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:29:34 pm
Quote
Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though
Got caught out and and can only say 'cringe'

Big up Reaps for speaking the truth

Yeah let me be more of a child by attacking people now, I won't do that
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 19, 2022, 09:29:52 pm
Fietta shut up
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: EGS Official on October 19, 2022, 09:30:01 pm
Fietta shut up
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:30:09 pm
DOWN WITH WSE2 DOWN WITH WSE2

(https://i.imgur.com/h8SFy1A.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 09:30:55 pm
Fietta shut up
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: HiReaper on October 19, 2022, 09:31:08 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though

The vast majority of people have benefitted from the client. In fact, why not leave it to a vote and decide whether the community wants it?

You literally have a great PC which most of the community don't have. Imagine complaining you don't get any benefits when you are in the top 1% of PC specifications in this game.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 19, 2022, 09:31:22 pm
Oh lovely, i can delete comments
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on October 19, 2022, 09:31:38 pm
Fietta shut up

(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5e8507e08b4f04096c5a7b18/3x)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 19, 2022, 09:31:47 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though

The vast majority of people have benefitted from the client. In fact, why not leave it to a vote and decide whether the community wants it?

You literally have a great PC which most of the community don't have. Imagine complaining you don't get any benefits when you are in the top 1% of PC specifications in this game.

come ts gf
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 09:32:06 pm
why not leave it to a vote and decide whether the community wants it?

Could do, although rigging by messaging some 55th members wouldn't probably help, or on the other side Maskman getting 45thN involved to vote the opposite
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 09:32:09 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though

The vast majority of people have benefitted from the client. In fact, why not leave it to a vote and decide whether the community wants it?

You literally have a great PC which most of the community don't have. Imagine complaining you don't get any benefits when you are in the top 1% of PC specifications in this game.

come ts gf
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Bagins on October 19, 2022, 09:32:23 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though

The vast majority of people have benefitted from the client. In fact, why not leave it to a vote and decide whether the community wants it?

You literally have a great PC which most of the community don't have. Imagine complaining you don't get any benefits when you are in the top 1% of PC specifications in this game.

come ts gf
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on October 19, 2022, 09:46:52 pm
i dont know, fietta has been very reasonable for the past couple of days!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 19, 2022, 10:06:57 pm
Fietta shut up
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 19, 2022, 10:07:05 pm
Fietta shut up
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 19, 2022, 10:16:30 pm
rude zz

Due to alot of controversy, we need to discuss the pros and cons of WSE2, start discussing! The resulting discussion will affect the outcome of its introduction or banning.

we were asked to discuss!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on October 19, 2022, 10:18:13 pm
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Reaps been deleting my ATS announcements even though I made the last one with Giorno and Gibby in the channel as closing thoughts for jokes!

Are you serious?? You were acting like a child (26 year old man btw) posting announcements about your little cringe vendetta on banning a client when the vast majority of the admin team was for it at the time?

Reminder that Fietta made 3 announcements without the admin team and all of them got deleted 🤣🤣

Nice attempt to obfuscate, but you haven't actually said anything of value yet.

That was as cringe as my posts I also seem to gain years apparently the more I post


In a lot of cases, especially baiting, you'll be looking down and shit, so you'll be able to do it easier, Fralla's video showed a couple of examples where this has helped. It's also not 'a bit behind' it's quite noticeable considering the already lowish FOV the base game has. You're talking about 'more utlity', if you mean performance as the only utility then yes. I've actually heard people uninstall it as it's provided negative effects on their game (I'm looking at you smallest), and from my new personal experience, the effects have been negligible. I think people should start fixing their PCs rather than band-aiding their games.

I made this reply though

The vast majority of people have benefitted from the client. In fact, why not leave it to a vote and decide whether the community wants it?

You literally have a great PC which most of the community don't have. Imagine complaining you don't get any benefits when you are in the top 1% of PC specifications in this game.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 19, 2022, 10:19:21 pm
Hireaper scary 😟 Ima dress up like him for Halloween and get deported
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 19, 2022, 10:53:36 pm
Hireaper scary 😟 Ima dress up like him for Halloween and get deported
Roadman Blitzkrieg coming up for Halloween
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 19, 2022, 11:43:26 pm
Hireaper scary 😟 Ima dress up like him for Halloween and get deported
??
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 12:12:54 am
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: sidney crosby on October 20, 2022, 12:54:21 am
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out

just bought a 3090 so I could play the vanilla version of a 2012 indie game 💪🏻

🤣🤣🤣 you are mental mate 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 20, 2022, 12:57:13 am
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out

Dw guys someone who isn’t even running EGS made a poll so that will solve it all
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 01:08:10 am
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out

Dw guys someone who isn’t even running EGS made a poll so that will solve it all

There are more tournaments than EGS retard, it's a community poll so other tournament organisers can go with the majority and it's in a place everyone is active and see
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 20, 2022, 01:08:54 am
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out

Dw guys someone who isn’t even running EGS made a poll so that will solve it all

There's more tournaments than EGS retard

Hmm I don’t see any announced do you?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 01:09:18 am
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out

Dw guys someone who isn’t even running EGS made a poll so that will solve it all

There's more tournaments than EGS retard

Hmm I don’t see any announced do you?

Holy shit you're actually fucking retarded, this is also for the future
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 20, 2022, 01:10:18 am
The same way yellow muskets were? Nobody will care in a month you cringelord
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 20, 2022, 01:15:58 am
Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out
already biased and rigged, my vote removed already
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 20, 2022, 01:43:23 am
Just to reiterate, banning WSE2 is not going to solve the issue of FOV ‘hacking’. It will simply make people change it in the files, or as HiReaper pointed out. Lock their resolution to one that gives them an advantage. At least if Gibby’s WSE2 competitive launcher thing works. It can be fixed.

Not only do I think banning WSE2 is stupid as fuck for the reason above. But it also has helped a lot of people with poor performing computers to ‘enjoy’ NW without having FPS issue. And also allows people again, as HiReaper said, with high refresh rate monitors to actually use them and not have to cap their fps.


And to end this all. The fact fietta is on this witch-hunt to ban WSE2 is extremely whimsical, considering he and his friends have been using the mod since EGS S2 and didn’t see an issue there. But since HiReaper allowed access to everyone to use the mod by posting the links and a video guide. He suddenly wants it banned. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Wetty.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 20, 2022, 01:45:08 am
Wetty.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 01:48:48 am
Just to reiterate, banning WSE2 is not going to solve the issue of FOV ‘hacking’. It will simply make people change it in the files, or as HiReaper pointed out. Lock their resolution to one that gives them an advantage. At least if Gibby’s WSE2 competitive launcher thing works. It can be fixed.

Not only do I think banning WSE2 is stupid as fuck for the reason above. But it also has helped a lot of people with poor performing computers to ‘enjoy’ NW without having FPS issue. And also allows people again, as HiReaper said, with high refresh rate monitors to actually use them and not have to cap their fps.


And to end this all. The fact fietta is on this witch-hunt to ban WSE2 is extremely whimsical, considering he and his friends have been using the mod since EGS S2 and didn’t see an issue there. But since HiReaper allowed access to everyone to use the mod by posting the links and a video guide. He suddenly wants it banned. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Wetty.

Funny you said that because you voted for the 'serverside FOV slider but if fails ban WSE2'! Quick change it now!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 20, 2022, 01:51:25 am
Just to reiterate, banning WSE2 is not going to solve the issue of FOV ‘hacking’. It will simply make people change it in the files, or as HiReaper pointed out. Lock their resolution to one that gives them an advantage. At least if Gibby’s WSE2 competitive launcher thing works. It can be fixed.

Not only do I think banning WSE2 is stupid as fuck for the reason above. But it also has helped a lot of people with poor performing computers to ‘enjoy’ NW without having FPS issue. And also allows people again, as HiReaper said, with high refresh rate monitors to actually use them and not have to cap their fps.


And to end this all. The fact fietta is on this witch-hunt to ban WSE2 is extremely whimsical, considering he and his friends have been using the mod since EGS S2 and didn’t see an issue there. But since HiReaper allowed access to everyone to use the mod by posting the links and a video guide. He suddenly wants it banned. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Wetty.

Funny you said that because you voted for the 'serverside FOV slider but if fails ban WSE2'! Quick change it now!
Well that was by accident, but I’ve already said that if WSE2 is banned from tournaments I’m not going to play. I’m not going back to playing a game I already don’t like that much when it’s buttery smooth. Not a chance I’m gonna play it when it’s choppy as fuck.

But thanks for that. My vote has now been changed.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fluxyy on October 20, 2022, 06:55:41 pm
Just to reiterate, banning WSE2 is not going to solve the issue of FOV ‘hacking’. It will simply make people change it in the files, or as HiReaper pointed out. Lock their resolution to one that gives them an advantage. At least if Gibby’s WSE2 competitive launcher thing works. It can be fixed.

Not only do I think banning WSE2 is stupid as fuck for the reason above. But it also has helped a lot of people with poor performing computers to ‘enjoy’ NW without having FPS issue. And also allows people again, as HiReaper said, with high refresh rate monitors to actually use them and not have to cap their fps.


And to end this all. The fact fietta is on this witch-hunt to ban WSE2 is extremely whimsical, considering he and his friends have been using the mod since EGS S2 and didn’t see an issue there. But since HiReaper allowed access to everyone to use the mod by posting the links and a video guide. He suddenly wants it banned. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Wetty.
The only time I'm a fan of yours.
Just because I'm arguing against the same 6 people all the time, as requested, I've just made a quick poll:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48564.0

Don't try to game it, any irrelevant votes will just be thrown out
We already know that you will remove half of the votes that want to allow WSE2 Hypocrite
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on October 20, 2022, 08:51:07 pm
thanks for all pros and cons you brought up.

We will think about the best solution fitting for the EGS amdin staff, and the quality of this tournament series.

I highly appreciate it, if you'd like to discuss, you search for another thread for now.
I will simply delete any further post regarding the issue, before we announce something. Thank you and have a nice day  :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on October 21, 2022, 12:07:06 am
nur der s04
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MikeyBruh on October 21, 2022, 04:01:58 am
I use wse2 and I have the #1 KD in our Na league. Considering I'm a absolute dogshit bot it has to be a cheat no way i would do this without it clearly a OP cheat
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Coco. on October 21, 2022, 09:36:48 am
I use wse2 and I have the #1 KD in our Na league. Considering I'm a absolute dogshit bot it has to be a cheat no way i would do this without it clearly a OP cheat
Mikey -_-
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 24, 2022, 05:38:05 pm
1. How many teams will be in League One and League Two?
2. When will it be announced who will be in which leagues?
3. Will there be a grid for the losing teams in both leagues to get any points?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 24, 2022, 05:48:37 pm
1. How many teams will be in League One and League Two?
2. When will it be announced who will be in which leagues?
3. Will there be a grid for the losing teams in both leagues to get any points?

1. 10 teams for league 1 16 teams for league 2 is what we're aiming for
2. They are on the sign ups thread
3. Could you clarify please
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 24, 2022, 05:55:55 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 24, 2022, 05:58:01 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
I can't speak for Kamikaze but on Crappers part we both want to play in League 1 and most the organisers agree we should be there, we very rarely lose to impact or gojp in practices at least that I've been to (I know this is not the same as a tournament but if you look at our last 2-3 since Fralla and I joined and Fralla missed some we've performed fairly well). Of course they will be balanced, but maybe not how you 'think'.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 24, 2022, 05:58:50 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the teams who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 24, 2022, 05:59:28 pm
If we imagine the Kamikaze team without Zenon, is it possible that they will be relegated to the second league instead of the first?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 24, 2022, 05:59:50 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 24, 2022, 06:00:51 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 24, 2022, 06:01:23 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?
Short nights for Crappers, I don't mind that.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 24, 2022, 06:01:47 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?
Short nights for Crappers, I don't mind that.

Could have longer ones if you get placed into league 2 ;)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 24, 2022, 06:02:03 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?

Fietta - that's fair. All three seasons there was no lower net for the losing teams, nothing. That's fair at least.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 24, 2022, 06:02:29 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?
Nope, not anymore, it’s mainly cuz certain teams insisted to play L1 ruining it for everyone else.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 24, 2022, 06:03:30 pm
What do you mean, "ruining" ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 24, 2022, 06:03:52 pm
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?
Nope, not anymore, it’s mainly cuz certain teams insisted to play L1 ruining it for everyone else.

Unfortunate but there we are
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 24, 2022, 06:12:07 pm
Spoiler
Will Crappers and Kamikaze be allowed into League One, and GoJp and Impact into League Two? Will the leagues not be balanced?
And regarding the last question. The organizers are considering the possibility of adding a bottom grid for teams that did not make it out of the group in both leagues. "Bottom Grid" . The losers grid. A grid for teams that didn't make it out of the group, and so on.
Will it show up? Or will the idea be abandoned?

I think the tournaments will be setup similar to ATS iirc where the people who didn't make it out of groups, will have their own bracket to play through. I do agree with League 2 having some obvious balancing issues.
This was the plan but not anymore. This is due to l1 having 10 teams and not the 8 we wanted this idea was scrapped

So, when you don't go through, that's the end of the road? There's no second bracket at all?
Short nights for Crappers, I don't mind that.

Could have longer ones if you get placed into league 2 ;)
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Nah, it'll be just as short whilst we tear everyone up.  8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 24, 2022, 06:13:48 pm
Hopefully, the Leagues will balance it out before the tournament begins.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tomppa on October 24, 2022, 06:16:36 pm
As long as I don't have to be vs the Python and Achilles flank all is good.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 25, 2022, 11:34:36 pm
Hi guys,

Could we delay the tournament by a week, I mean it's Halloween weekend and I know a couple of teams that won't be able to field enough for the weekend
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Naatsuu on October 25, 2022, 11:50:58 pm
No
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on October 26, 2022, 12:18:16 am
Hopefully, the Leagues will balance it out before the tournament begins.
WATAHELL
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Naatsuu on October 26, 2022, 12:28:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFUDN75zd8&t=38s
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 26, 2022, 12:38:29 am
NNNN
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 26, 2022, 01:20:26 am
No.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 26, 2022, 10:19:52 am
Hi guys,

Could we delay the tournament by a week, I mean it's Halloween weekend and I know a couple of teams that won't be able to field enough for the weekend

Which teams won't be able to field enough?
If you know a couple of teams please specify
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 26, 2022, 10:54:04 am
Just RT zzz
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on October 26, 2022, 11:00:43 am
The dates have been set in advance?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 11:28:14 am
Just RT zzz
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 26, 2022, 11:44:32 am
The dates have been set in advance?
Yeah we started getting everything ready so League 1 had 2.5 weeks to get everything sorted. 3.5 weeks for League 2

If we move League 1 a week backwards, we are going to struggle with servers as both leagues will play on the same week.

If we move both leagues back a week then League 2 will finish on christmas day
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on October 26, 2022, 01:13:49 pm
Santa Claus instead of bringing coal this year brought an NW Gf!!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on October 26, 2022, 02:18:40 pm
Imagine banning naatsuu for skillfully using game mechanics but not banning fietta when thats what the community wants smh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 26, 2022, 02:29:17 pm
Imagine banning naatsuu for skillfully using game mechanics but not banning fietta when thats what the community wants smh
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gi on October 26, 2022, 02:30:04 pm
Hi guys,

Could we delay the tournament by a week, I mean it's Halloween weekend and I know a couple of teams that won't be able to field enough for the weekend
whats your costume bro
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:30:10 pm
I mean I was simply asking; since it’s Halloween weekend, a lot of teams I’d imagine may be able to bring 5, but for the sake of competition, what 5 should also be considered unless we’re hoping for a snappers vs crappers final and subsequently making the rest of the tournament series feel less competitive. RT most likely might not have 5, and during holidays, people always arrange last minute plans.

Dunno just a thought innit


Hi guys,

Could we delay the tournament by a week, I mean it's Halloween weekend and I know a couple of teams that won't be able to field enough for the weekend
whats your costume bro

Ron Weasley, got the whole outfit
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on October 26, 2022, 02:31:33 pm
I mean I was simply asking; since it’s Halloween weekend, a lot of teams I’d imagine may be able to bring 5, but for the sake of competition, what 5 should also be considered unless we’re hoping for a snappers vs crappers final and subsequently making the rest of the tournament series feel less competitive. RT most likely might not have 5

Dunno just a thought innit

no one celebrates it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:32:26 pm
I mean I was simply asking; since it’s Halloween weekend, a lot of teams I’d imagine may be able to bring 5, but for the sake of competition, what 5 should also be considered unless we’re hoping for a snappers vs crappers final and subsequently making the rest of the tournament series feel less competitive. RT most likely might not have 5

Dunno just a thought innit

no one celebrates it

Not incels no
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Janne on October 26, 2022, 02:32:41 pm
drop the ego fietta we all know rt is washed af. we're in NSS era so stop acting like your team is the most important thing in the whole tournament
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:33:56 pm
drop the ego fietta we all know rt is washed af. we're in NSS era so stop acting like your team is the most important thing in the whole tournament

Maskman will be too busy partying in Durham
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Kore on October 26, 2022, 02:34:01 pm
I mean I was simply asking; since it’s Halloween weekend, a lot of teams I’d imagine may be able to bring 5, but for the sake of competition, what 5 should also be considered unless we’re hoping for a snappers vs crappers final and subsequently making the rest of the tournament series feel less competitive. RT most likely might not have 5

Dunno just a thought innit

no one celebrates it

Not incels no

no one in this community then, so why delaying?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 26, 2022, 02:36:11 pm
Fietta shut up you melt
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:36:44 pm
Yes let’s call it attack Fietta month, stupid WSE2 users
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on October 26, 2022, 02:37:39 pm
Go out and party, good delay.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2022, 02:38:10 pm
I think we should delay EGS till next year
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 26, 2022, 02:38:33 pm
I mean I was simply asking; since it’s Halloween weekend, a lot of teams I’d imagine may be able to bring 5, but for the sake of competition, what 5 should also be considered unless we’re hoping for a snappers vs crappers final and subsequently making the rest of the tournament series feel less competitive. RT most likely might not have 5, and during holidays, people always arrange last minute plans.

Dunno just a thought innit


Hi guys,

Could we delay the tournament by a week, I mean it's Halloween weekend and I know a couple of teams that won't be able to field enough for the weekend
whats your costume bro

Ron Weasley, got the whole outfit

This is why we have emergency subs, And you're not 100% if you do have 4 or 5.

As I've already spoken to you about this. You need to get proof that multiple teams can't get enough members (5 Members) to attend on Sunday because if we think of changing the dates and messing around the rest of the League 1 & 2, it won't be great.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 02:39:01 pm
So far that I'm aware of from the teams I've spoken to RT are the only ones who might not be able to have enough for the 5v5. I get what you're saying that it would be more competitive with everyone there but as we've seen with RT and many other teams in the past quite often you don't have everyone there and delaying it has its downsides too both for time and organisational factors. If anyone other teams do think they'll struggle to get 5 due to the Sunday before Halloween then of course let one of the organisers know. Also not sure why you'd disrespect Snappers they've got a pretty good line-up and performed well recently in tournaments, not like them being in the finals is an impossible thing. Plus there will be other teams there with 'good' lineups regardless if RT is missing a few players which quite often you have anyway since forming.

I can understand you not wanting to play with an emergency sub however as it's not your team and you may not know them to well.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:40:25 pm
We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2022, 02:40:43 pm
RT dead team confirmed?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on October 26, 2022, 02:40:46 pm
I think we should delay EGS till next year
Alf lets party till next year bro
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 26, 2022, 02:42:06 pm
We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed

You celebrating Halloween-eve or something?

Unless I'm mistaken, Halloween has, is, and always will be the 31st of October.
The tournament is on the 30th
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2022, 02:42:32 pm
I think we should delay EGS till next year
Alf lets party till next year bro

I’m out every weekend I don’t get why it’s different for Halloween bro
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on October 26, 2022, 02:42:46 pm
isn't halloween a yankee thing ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 02:42:49 pm
We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed
Yes in most cases that is true, but you are normally missing a few players which is what I said. I have also been there when you've had to use an emergency sub in the past or two even. It's the Sunday before Halloween, most normal people do things on the Friday/Saturday, or Halloween itself if Monday is already not a concern for them to be doing things on Sunday.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on October 26, 2022, 02:43:54 pm
I think we should delay EGS till next year
Alf lets party till next year bro

I’m out every weekend I don’t get why it’s different for Halloween bro
bro i was drunk for the entirety of last week legit
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:44:12 pm
We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed

You celebrating Halloween-eve or something?

Unless I'm mistaken, Halloween has, is, and always will be the 31st of October.
The tournament is on the 30th

I won’t comment on that because that’s just bait

We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed
Yes in most cases that is true, but you are normally missing a few players which is what I said. I have also been there when you've had to use an emergency sub in the past or two even. It's the Sunday before Halloween, most normal people do things on the Friday/Saturday, or Halloween itself if Monday is already not a concern for them to be doing things on Sunday.

Uni works differently I suppose
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 02:46:16 pm
Spoiler
We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed

You celebrating Halloween-eve or something?

Unless I'm mistaken, Halloween has, is, and always will be the 31st of October.
The tournament is on the 30th

I won’t comment on that because that’s just bait

We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed
Yes in most cases that is true, but you are normally missing a few players which is what I said. I have also been there when you've had to use an emergency sub in the past or two even. It's the Sunday before Halloween, most normal people do things on the Friday/Saturday, or Halloween itself if Monday is already not a concern for them to be doing things on Sunday.

Uni works differently I suppose
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Two of the players your missing or potentially missing aren't even at uni. I just highly doubt this effects the vast majority of players/teams as heavily, unfortunate for you that it does of course but it happens sometimes.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on October 26, 2022, 02:48:01 pm
We always bring enough for tournaments, it’s just unfortunate that it’s filled with people who celebrate holidays the way they’re suppose to be celebrated. The snappers thing was just two teams I picked because their names rhymed

I’m dressing up as Waldo what are you going to be?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2022, 02:56:54 pm
Heri actually chose violence today
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Witold on October 26, 2022, 02:56:58 pm
isn't halloween a yankee thing ?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 02:58:28 pm
Heri actually chose violence today

No he chose to be reasonable, something the vast majority of this forum are incapable of doing including you
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 02:59:43 pm
Can I have a gold star?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 03:00:08 pm
Can I have a gold star?

Enough of those on star points
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 26, 2022, 03:00:32 pm
Heri actually chose violence today

No he chose to be reasonable, something the vast majority of this forum are incapable of doing including you
He said exactly what I did in dm's, just in a nicer and more constructed way.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 03:00:57 pm
Can I have a gold star?

Enough of those on star points
Truuuuuuue I'm stacked on gold stars.

Heri actually chose violence today

No he chose to be reasonable, something the vast majority of this forum are incapable of doing including you
He said exactly what I did in dm's, just in a nicer and more constructed way.
Learn some charm kiddo.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2022, 03:03:58 pm
I have to say, joining the Golden school of muting makes this forum a much nicer place, I can see the common sense of Herishey, the occasionally intelligent ramblings of Hertz and not have to deal with mister community poll, what a time to be alive
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 03:04:43 pm
Alf forgets that he is probably the most muted forum user
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 26, 2022, 03:34:59 pm
Concrete proof that RT fear the Renegade raiders
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on October 26, 2022, 03:44:03 pm
Concrete proof that RT fear the Renegade raiders

Who wouldn’t fear renegades, they have the all time carry, Faisal Ahmadinijad
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 26, 2022, 03:45:49 pm
fiettas next target is sabotage EGS?
lets start community poll which one will end in the same way as WSE
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on October 26, 2022, 03:46:42 pm
fiettas next target is sabotage EGS?
lets start community poll which one will end in the same way as WSE

shut up freak
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 26, 2022, 03:49:38 pm
fiettas next target is sabotage EGS?
lets start community poll which one will end in the same way as WSE

shut up freak
this is democracy, baby
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on October 26, 2022, 05:12:58 pm
I am against the idea of postponing the tournament because of a holiday. I will explain why.
First, each registered team, each player participating in the tournament, before submitting the registration, read the rules of the tournament, the dates of its holding and agreed to the terms and voluntarily registered or registered his team. Dates and times of tournaments are scheduled for months in advance. To change the tournament schedule for the sake of one holiday is stupid. All the more to change the schedule of the tournament at the request of one person to undermine not only the schedule of the first league, but also the second.
Secondly, for this purpose and was added from eight players to the team, so that if someone was unable to play, he could be replaced by other players + emergency players. If someone will be celebrating and resting during this time - no problem, this player can simply be replaced, as the tournament will be five against five, and each team has eight players - so I do not see the point of postponing the tournament.

Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on October 26, 2022, 05:31:18 pm
It's not getting postponed, we don't need the discussion to continue it was already over.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Snowwi on October 26, 2022, 05:43:42 pm
We should postpone this until after Christmas
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on October 26, 2022, 05:52:44 pm
All posts from here on about postponing will be removed
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on October 26, 2022, 06:15:54 pm
WATAHELL
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fralla8 on October 26, 2022, 07:01:24 pm
unless we’re hoping for a snappers vs crappers final
(https://i.imgur.com/gOZnFzH.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 26, 2022, 07:52:31 pm
WATAHELL
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Golden. on October 26, 2022, 07:53:17 pm
WATAHELL
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 30, 2022, 02:49:32 pm
lights out
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on November 03, 2022, 03:48:56 am
Hello all.
I would like to make a request to the tournament organisers.
Please change the rule regarding the number of teams leaving groups of the second league. It is written in the rules that only two teams get out of the group, is it possible to change this to three? Thank you for your attention.

P.S. I understand the desire of the tournament organizers to finish with the group stage as quickly as possible.
In League One, only four of the five teams in the group qualified for the next stage of the tournament. In League Two, only two of the four teams will advance to the next round.. This is not fair to the teams in League Two.

Thank you for your attention.

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1914620032239127449/F710D3CE306F722EF6454F9FB93E5D4A16AD7508/)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on November 03, 2022, 04:22:30 am
It's only that way because League 2 is made out of 16 teams whereas League 1 has 10. In order to have balanced playoffs, League 1 must make 4 teams of each group progress which is not a requirement in League 2.

While it may seems 'harsher' on paper, realistically speaking, if groups are well drawn then two teams progressing from each group of four seem reasonable enough.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on November 03, 2022, 10:11:10 am
It's only that way because League 2 is made out of 16 teams whereas League 1 has 10. In order to have balanced playoffs, League 1 must make 4 teams of each group progress which is not a requirement in League 2.

While it may seems 'harsher' on paper, realistically speaking, if groups are well drawn then two teams progressing from each group of four seem reasonable enough.

Dont even bother trying to explain it. Bodya already got told last week why we wont do it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 03, 2022, 12:12:18 pm
It's only that way because League 2 is made out of 16 teams whereas League 1 has 10. In order to have balanced playoffs, League 1 must make 4 teams of each group progress which is not a requirement in League 2.

While it may seems 'harsher' on paper, realistically speaking, if groups are well drawn then two teams progressing from each group of four seem reasonable enough.

Dont even bother trying to explain it. Bodya already got told last week why we wont do it
so much pain
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on November 03, 2022, 12:39:35 pm
It's only that way because League 2 is made out of 16 teams whereas League 1 has 10. In order to have balanced playoffs, League 1 must make 4 teams of each group progress which is not a requirement in League 2.

While it may seems 'harsher' on paper, realistically speaking, if groups are well drawn then two teams progressing from each group of four seem reasonable enough.

Dont even bother trying to explain it. Bodya already got told last week why we wont do it

bless him
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Coco. on November 03, 2022, 05:17:46 pm
It's only that way because League 2 is made out of 16 teams whereas League 1 has 10. In order to have balanced playoffs, League 1 must make 4 teams of each group progress which is not a requirement in League 2.

While it may seems 'harsher' on paper, realistically speaking, if groups are well drawn then two teams progressing from each group of four seem reasonable enough.

Dont even bother trying to explain it. Bodya already got told last week why we wont do it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on November 03, 2022, 06:16:51 pm
bless him
Be quiet mister 5 threads 4000 posts on WSE2 fietta
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Tardet on November 15, 2022, 10:21:03 am
Bagins, Hertz, Axiom & Dren assembled

I don't like how this is going at all
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on November 15, 2022, 10:31:13 am
Bagins, Hertz, Axiom & Dren assembled

I don't like how this is going at all
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on November 15, 2022, 10:35:31 am
Bagins, Hertz, Axiom & Dren assembled

I don't like how this is going at all
Dw the combo won't last long
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on November 15, 2022, 10:37:55 am
Bagins, Hertz, Axiom & Dren assembled

I don't like how this is going at all
Dw the combo won't last long
Neither will crappers in the next tournament  8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Caskie on November 15, 2022, 10:48:51 am
Gotta keep the crap in crappers going
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on November 15, 2022, 10:51:36 am
Gotta keep the crap in crappers going
Hence why herishey joined
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Dren on November 15, 2022, 01:07:24 pm
Bagins, Hertz, Axiom & Dren assembled

I don't like how this is going at all
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on November 15, 2022, 02:36:16 pm
No skill all autism them 4
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on November 15, 2022, 03:11:41 pm
No skill all autism them 4

You're all brownies and brummy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on November 15, 2022, 03:13:52 pm
fun fact

only one russian player playing in l1 8)
Spoiler
until next season? :'(
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Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 15, 2022, 03:22:47 pm
fun fact

only one russian player playing in l1 8)
Spoiler
until next season? :'(
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gg
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on November 15, 2022, 10:37:05 pm
who remembers this banger???/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWfgclSOHuM
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Alf on November 16, 2022, 11:39:51 am
Regrouped vs renegades is the best final ngl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on November 16, 2022, 12:38:04 pm
Regrouped vs renegades is the best final ngl

If troister stops playing on 4G ez dub
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on November 22, 2022, 11:04:16 pm
   Pos
| Pic
| Team Name
| Top 1
| Top 3
| Point
1st| (https://i.imgur.com/tXUtyHd.png)| The Round Table| 2| 0| 272
2nd| (https://i.imgur.com/6tkmf70.png)| Snappers| 0| 1| 180
3rd| (https://i.imgur.com/C9M5wDp.png)| Renegades| 0| 2| 180

:Team Name: Round Table
Transfer IN:

1988413 Zeyden (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png)

Transfer OUT:

[TBA GUID] sHype

It's the job of both the players in teams and tournament organisers to keep a competitive environment.

RT didn't even need Python to win the first tourney, and now they add Zeyden in exchange for a bench player (in 5v5).

Joke from all parties involved, but to each their own  ;D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on November 22, 2022, 11:11:36 pm
   Pos
| Pic
| Team Name
| Top 1
| Top 3
| Point
1st| (https://i.imgur.com/tXUtyHd.png)| The Round Table| 2| 0| 272
2nd| (https://i.imgur.com/6tkmf70.png)| Snappers| 0| 1| 180
3rd| (https://i.imgur.com/C9M5wDp.png)| Renegades| 0| 2| 180

:Team Name: Round Table
Transfer IN:

1988413 Zeyden (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png)

Transfer OUT:

[TBA GUID] sHype

It's the job of both the players in teams and tournament organisers to keep a competitive environment.

RT didn't even need Python to win the first tourney, and now they add Zeyden in exchange for a bench player (in 5v5).

Joke from all parties involved, but to each their own  ;D

dw dw It's all a joke (Vol knew from the beginning so it wouldn't actually go through)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on November 22, 2022, 11:22:32 pm
Spoiler
   Pos
| Pic
| Team Name
| Top 1
| Top 3
| Point
1st| (https://i.imgur.com/tXUtyHd.png)| The Round Table| 2| 0| 272
2nd| (https://i.imgur.com/6tkmf70.png)| Snappers| 0| 1| 180
3rd| (https://i.imgur.com/C9M5wDp.png)| Renegades| 0| 2| 180

:Team Name: Round Table
Transfer IN:

1988413 Zeyden (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png)

Transfer OUT:

[TBA GUID] sHype

It's the job of both the players in teams and tournament organisers to keep a competitive environment.

RT didn't even need Python to win the first tourney, and now they add Zeyden in exchange for a bench player (in 5v5).

Joke from all parties involved, but to each their own  ;D

dw dw It's all a joke (Vol knew from the beginning so it wouldn't actually go through)
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Fair enough. I was looking forward to arguing with Fietta ngl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on November 22, 2022, 11:36:17 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on November 22, 2022, 11:59:43 pm
I smell a sus imposter
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Mauri on November 23, 2022, 01:25:54 pm
Please let us play Knock-out matches as soon as both teams are ready, even when an unrelated groupstage match is still ongoing. This 1h waiting for one team per match playing only like 10min more is top tier annoying and dishonoring of players time
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: John Price on November 23, 2022, 02:17:06 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on November 23, 2022, 02:43:12 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python
Imagine talking about yourself in the third person you creep.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on November 23, 2022, 02:54:33 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python

'we' I forgot you're the entire community
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 23, 2022, 03:34:18 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python

'we' I forgot you're the entire community
stop being edgy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on November 23, 2022, 03:37:28 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python

'we' I forgot you're the entire community
stop being edgy

stop following me, get off my cock
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on November 23, 2022, 03:47:12 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python

'we' I forgot you're the entire community
stop being edgy

stop following me, get off my cock
you belong to a minority
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: FENTON on November 23, 2022, 04:04:57 pm
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python
Imagine talking about yourself in the third person you creep.
Fenton nods his head in agreement.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chuckster on November 30, 2022, 09:51:18 pm
Regrouped vs renegades is the best final ngl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on December 01, 2022, 12:45:35 am
fietta is wearing off on python he's turning into a troll!
Yeah but we like Python
Imagine talking about yourself in the third person you creep.
Fenton nods his head in agreement.
want to erp?>
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Ceedoy on December 01, 2022, 01:44:22 am
Regrouped vs renegades is the best final ngl
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 05, 2022, 06:36:45 pm
The "player-experienced" performance of League 2 servers seems shockingly poor compared to League 1 servers, particularly comparing the second tournaments of L1 and L2.

Idk if you guys were using French servers for League 1 and German for League 2; if so it seems moronic to do so. Just keep it consistent between both Leagues. If this isn't the case then ignore this.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Trexons on December 05, 2022, 07:07:09 pm
The "player-experienced" performance of League 2 servers seems shockingly poor compared to League 1 servers, particularly comparing the second tournaments of L1 and L2.

Idk if you guys were using French servers for League 1 and German for League 2; if so it seems moronic to do so. Just keep it consistent between both Leagues. If this isn't the case then ignore this.
nothing to add
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: tommyxd on December 05, 2022, 07:11:28 pm
The "player-experienced" performance of League 2 servers seems shockingly poor compared to League 1 servers, particularly comparing the second tournaments of L1 and L2.

Idk if you guys were using French servers for League 1 and German for League 2; if so it seems moronic to do so. Just keep it consistent between both Leagues. If this isn't the case then ignore this.
Gotta give bodya a chance to get out of the groups somehow so he can make sure his knock out match takes twice as long to finish compared to the other one otherwise tourney would end too soon
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 05, 2022, 07:29:23 pm
apparently the French servers were unavailable on the day so the German ones had to be used
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Poberta on December 05, 2022, 07:42:58 pm
EGS is shitty tournament.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on December 05, 2022, 08:34:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06bY_im-nss
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Poberta on December 05, 2022, 08:43:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06bY_im-nss
I going there to UAE at 2026
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 05, 2022, 11:56:29 pm
EGS in the bin since i left admin team

Also Chainsor,
I guess no one exactly knew that Spoons was Egg (I personally dont even know his ID, so how am I supposed to know). Obviously if we knew he should've renamed himself. Skaenn renamed himself even on FSE to Axuss which makes his new community name to Axuss.

This is not what a community name is. As I explained, a community name is the name the most/everyone in the community knows you by. Such as Fietta not being allowed to use trot888 or DOMI using PR_Curtis. even though they have used those names in game for months/years.

If what you say is now the rules, i'll be changing my name on FSE to something random on the day and you have no grounds to kick/ban me for it.


Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on December 06, 2022, 12:09:28 am

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 06, 2022, 12:31:07 am

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 06, 2022, 01:19:11 am

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

stop beefing noob
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 06, 2022, 09:25:54 am

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

stop beefing noob
I’m having a discussion you wet wipe, no beef here. Now pipe down and go watch prison break with danny
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Herishey on December 06, 2022, 10:07:46 am
'left the admin team'.  8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 06, 2022, 10:47:37 am
'left the admin team'.  8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 06, 2022, 12:08:11 pm

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

stop beefing noob
I’m having a discussion you wet wipe, no beef here. Now pipe down and go watch prison break with danny

We've made it to season 4 so far  8) 8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on December 06, 2022, 12:14:05 pm

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

tbf, that's a good point, we'll try to fix it for the season ending playoffs
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 06, 2022, 12:32:13 pm

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

tbf, that's a good point, we'll try to fix it for the season ending playoffs

Thank you boss
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on December 06, 2022, 02:35:35 pm

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

well, lets say it like this: As you know as a former admin we decided on German servers (most central one for everyone etc). Since the servers broke we used french servers for the first 2 tournaments (L1 and L2 first tournament). When the german ones were finally repaired the corpse-stabbing thing appeared (switched to french backups), which was resolved till the second League 2 tourny. League 2 tourny 2 was played on German ones because they were finally usable plus wse2 server script. Tourny 3 for League 1 was again on the french ones, because I quote "i cba people crying because of 2-3 individuals lagging". Since then we put quite a few hours of our freetime on the German ones, once again, to solve the issues a few players experienced. Every server we use costs us money we voluntarily spend into this project. L1 only used french servers till know because an error always occuried which was repaired afterwards for L2 (like wse2, corpses etc). We definitely do not do this on purpose that League2 gets the "shittier" servers. It is just what it is: unfortunate. Obviously its something we should have worked and tested on earlier prior the tournaments, to test the servers etc. Unfortunately, besides tournaments you cant gather enough people to test something properly.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IR_Nr59_Lamastos on December 06, 2022, 02:51:23 pm
What servers will the last L2 tournament be played on, then?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on December 06, 2022, 03:03:32 pm
Most likely french ones.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 06, 2022, 04:16:22 pm

Use same servers for L2 as you do for L1. I had people complaining that the last time L2 played the servers were shit as well, which is strange as they're normally fine for L1.
Sort your shit out for poor L2 players.

was the plan. As Chainsor already stated, the french ones were not available that day, so he used the one available, which is the German one. Not really intended to have worse experience in L2

Correct me if I’m wrong, the servers played in the 6v6 were also German right? How come 2 of the 3 L2 tournaments have been played in worse servers? Shouldn’t this be sorted ahead of time?

Obviously not saying it’s your guys fault, but it doesn’t look too good when everything is perfect for L1 and then L2 seems to be left in shambles.

well, lets say it like this: As you know as a former admin we decided on German servers (most central one for everyone etc). Since the servers broke we used french servers for the first 2 tournaments (L1 and L2 first tournament). When the german ones were finally repaired the corpse-stabbing thing appeared (switched to french backups), which was resolved till the second League 2 tourny. League 2 tourny 2 was played on German ones because they were finally usable plus wse2 server script. Tourny 3 for League 1 was again on the french ones, because I quote "i cba people crying because of 2-3 individuals lagging". Since then we put quite a few hours of our freetime on the German ones, once again, to solve the issues a few players experienced. Every server we use costs us money we voluntarily spend into this project. L1 only used french servers till know because an error always occuried which was repaired afterwards for L2 (like wse2, corpses etc). We definitely do not do this on purpose that League2 gets the "shittier" servers. It is just what it is: unfortunate. Obviously its something we should have worked and tested on earlier prior the tournaments, to test the servers etc. Unfortunately, besides tournaments you cant gather enough people to test something properly.

I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that you made L2 play on worse servers on purpose, it's just a bit peak on L2 that's all. If you've tried to solve the issues then fair play. Just strange that the better servers (french) were not sorted and made available beforehand. Maybe it's something you could look into if there is a S5
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on December 06, 2022, 04:51:15 pm
EGS servers is crap, not a ping or lags. Actually only 3-rd tournament we played on good-prepared server with FOV lock 75?

1st one we played on other server
2nd one too, maybe it was UK gf or something similar

how you prepared your servers for EGS?  we were too lazy to complain, but now 2 league are shoved into the same..

was worth it to play this EGS? im not sure.

ngl its a two horse race RT or Renegades, who wins more tournaments?
from early summer we dont have winners instead of RT or Renegades.

We can see other teams like Snappers or Cocotouch in finals, but they dont have win in any tournament..

only thing i have to say  - do randomized tournaments or fantasy league with better time lines, playing one gf per week/2weeks its really annoying
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: DarkTemplar on December 06, 2022, 05:10:37 pm
EGS servers is crap, not a ping or lags. Actually only 3-rd tournament we played on good-prepared server with FOV lock 75?

1st one we played on other server
2nd one too, maybe it was UK gf or something similar

how you prepared your servers for EGS?  we were too lazy to complain, but now 2 league are shoved into the same..

was worth it to play this EGS? im not sure.

ngl its a two horse race RT or Renegades, who wins more tournaments?
from early summer we dont have winners instead of RT or Renegades.

We can see other teams like Snappers or Cocotouch in finals, but they dont have win in any tournament..

only thing i have to say  - do randomized tournaments or fantasy league with better time lines, playing one gf per week/2weeks its really annoying

okay so what's your point exactly?
1st season was Chimpz and Litost
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy
3rd season was an insane dominance by Envy again, with two losses overall, only having Competition at the start from 10C

and if you play one gf per two weeks, maybe search for another team where you have practices.
The tournaments are not here to get your dosis NW, they're here to find out who is the best teams, over several weeks.

and if you don't like the format and/or decisions taken by the admin staff, who are sacrificing their free time in this, feel free to host your own randomized tournament. Show us what we can do better, to learn from you.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 06, 2022, 05:11:54 pm
Randomised/draft tournaments fucking suck
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on December 06, 2022, 05:33:57 pm
EGS servers is crap, not a ping or lags. Actually only 3-rd tournament we played on good-prepared server with FOV lock 75?

1st one we played on other server
2nd one too, maybe it was UK gf or something similar

how you prepared your servers for EGS?  we were too lazy to complain, but now 2 league are shoved into the same..

was worth it to play this EGS? im not sure.

ngl its a two horse race RT or Renegades, who wins more tournaments?
from early summer we dont have winners instead of RT or Renegades.

We can see other teams like Snappers or Cocotouch in finals, but they dont have win in any tournament..

only thing i have to say  - do randomized tournaments or fantasy league with better time lines, playing one gf per week/2weeks its really annoying

okay so what's your point exactly?
1st season was Chimpz and Litost
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy
3rd season was an insane dominance by Envy again, with two losses overall, only having Competition at the start from 10C

and if you play one gf per two weeks, maybe search for another team where you have practices.
The tournaments are not here to get your dosis NW, they're here to find out who is the best teams, over several weeks.

and if you don't like the format and/or decisions taken by the admin staff, who are sacrificing their free time in this, feel free to host your own randomized tournament. Show us what we can do better, to learn from you.

my point is EGS servers is organaised bad and it cost extra toxic points

and im saying about fantasy league GFs not my team. with one match per 1/2weeks its taking too long  to play this and the final turns out to be boring and no one expects it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on December 06, 2022, 05:42:05 pm
Randomised/draft tournaments fucking suck
its insteresting to play those formats once per 4-6 months.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gibby Jr on December 06, 2022, 05:59:52 pm
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy

Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.

Randomised/draft tournaments fucking suck
its insteresting to play those formats once per 4-6 months.

Draft tournaments are fun as long as they are kept short. Leagues are worse than one-day tournaments; a draft "league" consisting of 2 one-day tournaments is about as far as I'd stretch it, anything lasting weeks on end with random teams results in people losing interest or going inactive.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 06, 2022, 06:12:23 pm

Draft tournaments are fun as long as they are kept short. Leagues are worse than one-day tournaments; a draft "league" consisting of 2 one-day tournaments is about as far as I'd stretch it, anything lasting weeks on end with random teams results in people losing interest or going inactive.

Agreed, we've just done one recently, let's wait another 6 months before we do another :^)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on December 06, 2022, 06:56:24 pm
EGS servers is crap, not a ping or lags. Actually only 3-rd tournament we played on good-prepared server with FOV lock 75?

1st one we played on other server
2nd one too, maybe it was UK gf or something similar

how you prepared your servers for EGS?  we were too lazy to complain, but now 2 league are shoved into the same..

was worth it to play this EGS? im not sure.

ngl its a two horse race RT or Renegades, who wins more tournaments?
from early summer we dont have winners instead of RT or Renegades.

We can see other teams like Snappers or Cocotouch in finals, but they dont have win in any tournament..

only thing i have to say  - do randomized tournaments or fantasy league with better time lines, playing one gf per week/2weeks its really annoying

League 1 played every single tournament on French servers and its not possible that League1 players played with a FOV lock, because the wse2 script or mods in general are not liked by Syrcrim so therefore they are not installed. Only League2 servers (tourny 2 and 3) had FOV lock.

Are you publicly saying you played in League2?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Arch4ngel on December 06, 2022, 09:56:40 pm
EGS servers is crap, not a ping or lags. Actually only 3-rd tournament we played on good-prepared server with FOV lock 75?

1st one we played on other server
2nd one too, maybe it was UK gf or something similar

how you prepared your servers for EGS?  we were too lazy to complain, but now 2 league are shoved into the same..

was worth it to play this EGS? im not sure.

ngl its a two horse race RT or Renegades, who wins more tournaments?
from early summer we dont have winners instead of RT or Renegades.

We can see other teams like Snappers or Cocotouch in finals, but they dont have win in any tournament..

only thing i have to say  - do randomized tournaments or fantasy league with better time lines, playing one gf per week/2weeks its really annoying

League 1 played every single tournament on French servers and its not possible that League1 players played with a FOV lock, because the wse2 script or mods in general are not liked by Syrcrim so therefore they are not installed. Only League2 servers (tourny 2 and 3) had FOV lock.

Are you publicly saying you played in League2?
i played in league1 and i remember that we surely played on UK gf or something else, not on EGS server.

maybe it was the frist one when maps were broken
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Giorno on December 06, 2022, 10:32:17 pm
League 1 played every single tournament on French servers and its not possible that League1 players played with a FOV lock, because the wse2 script or mods in general are not liked by Syrcrim so therefore they are not installed. Only League2 servers (tourny 2 and 3) had FOV lock.

Are you publicly saying you played in League2?

If the EGS admin team collectively decided to have League 2 play on German servers with the WSE2 script while having League 1 play on French ones, then you guys made a horrible decision. I'm not referring the last tournament, but the 2nd one of each specifically.

The script was intended to prevent players, predominantly those in League 1, from changing FOV, yet it's only been used in League 2 thus far. Sorry, but that's some clown organisation. L2 shouldn't be serving as the guinea pig.

Sure, you couldn't use the French servers for one of the League 2 tourneys, but I'm pretty sure L2 tournament 2 was also German w/script which wasn't necessary (and was detrimental to player experience). Again, feel free to correct if I'm mistaken somewhere.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on December 06, 2022, 10:46:29 pm
tbh we didn't really decide to put l2 on German servers, those were the ones everyone would've played on but they are really shit so we went about getting French ones. these to my knowledge wasn't available on the last two l2 tournaments but was for the first? again not been that active to see
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vegi. on December 06, 2022, 11:01:28 pm
miauw miauw
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Xaos on December 06, 2022, 11:09:51 pm
Opinions on Portugal destroying Switzerland
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on December 06, 2022, 11:11:10 pm
Opinions on Portugal destroying Switzerland
Get rekt, never had a chance
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Xaos on December 06, 2022, 11:26:08 pm
Opinions on Portugal destroying Switzerland
Get rekt, never had a chance
Thanks to benfica and not porto 😍
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: R1bazZz on December 06, 2022, 11:28:53 pm
Opinions on Portugal destroying Switzerland
Get rekt, never had a chance
Thanks to benfica and not porto 😍
Finally after 3 years they might win again
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Python | Smeagol on December 07, 2022, 01:35:51 am
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy

Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.


Consistently? Poosy practically fell apart after mid season. Before that no team was in the race apart from Amaterasu and Poosy
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 07, 2022, 02:00:55 am
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy

Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.


Consistently? Poosy practically fell apart after mid season. Before that no team was in the race apart from Amaterasu and Poosy

Also, Legends came 7th
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Gibby Jr on December 07, 2022, 03:07:43 am
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy

Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.


Consistently? Poosy practically fell apart after mid season. Before that no team was in the race apart from Amaterasu and Poosy
Legends weren't in the first half of the season but beat Poosy every time once they were.

2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy
Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.
Consistently? Poosy practically fell apart after mid season. Before that no team was in the race apart from Amaterasu and Poosy
Also, Legends came 7th
This is simply untrue - here's the playoff final bracket https://challonge.com/6da7tifr

We qualified 7th to the playoffs because we only played 3 of the 6 tournaments.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fluxyy on December 07, 2022, 04:22:38 am
Already from the moment you make a circus for a script that changes the FOV when everyone can install it if they want I don't see any problem on it if everyone can install it why make such a big deal out of it community will never be able to advance on for a yes or no we make a circus of it
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 07, 2022, 09:14:39 am
2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy

Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.


Consistently? Poosy practically fell apart after mid season. Before that no team was in the race apart from Amaterasu and Poosy
Legends weren't in the first half of the season but beat Poosy every time once they were.

2nd season was all about Amaterasu and Poosy
Interesting that people say this when LEGENDS under DRAKE consistently beat Poosy and ended up 2nd. CURIOUS INDEED.
Consistently? Poosy practically fell apart after mid season. Before that no team was in the race apart from Amaterasu and Poosy
Also, Legends came 7th
This is simply untrue - here's the playoff final bracket https://challonge.com/6da7tifr

We qualified 7th to the playoffs because we only played 3 of the 6 tournaments.
Still came 7th overall  8)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Chainsor on December 07, 2022, 10:33:34 am
League 1 played every single tournament on French servers and its not possible that League1 players played with a FOV lock, because the wse2 script or mods in general are not liked by Syrcrim so therefore they are not installed. Only League2 servers (tourny 2 and 3) had FOV lock.

Are you publicly saying you played in League2?

If the EGS admin team collectively decided to have League 2 play on German servers with the WSE2 script while having League 1 play on French ones, then you guys made a horrible decision. I'm not referring the last tournament, but the 2nd one of each specifically.

The script was intended to prevent players, predominantly those in League 1, from changing FOV, yet it's only been used in League 2 thus far. Sorry, but that's some clown organisation. L2 shouldn't be serving as the guinea pig.

Sure, you couldn't use the French servers for one of the League 2 tourneys, but I'm pretty sure L2 tournament 2 was also German w/script which wasn't necessary (and was detrimental to player experience). Again, feel free to correct if I'm mistaken somewhere.

Wrong, all Leagues were intended to play on German servers. Both with scripts. Its not like we said "League 1 plays on French servers w/o wse2 and League 1 plays on German servers with wse2". Yes, I agree the German ones didnt work out as intended and as we wished for, but that was nothing in our power. I already apologized to the players who experienced problems on L2 T2, but it was at most 12 players. I personally did not experience any issues, even though other Germans did.
Early on we had an internal discussion and came to the conclusion that we wanted to use the wse2 server script, which were unfortunately only installable on the German servers.

Some people here dont have any insight of what is happening in the background and what we actually do to try to solve the problems that occur. Plus calling us "clown organisation" without really reading what has been previously written is also quite funny. Our goal is obviously to bring the best gaming experience for everyone, which was not possible with the German ones. Server wise it could and should have been better - yes, but how do you want to know whether they are shit or not without testing with a decent number of players? (I dont want to hear anything about "bla bla bla German servers are shit, why take them anway?". I'm just gonna delete these bait posts)

Generally speaking thank you for your advices. Criticism is always needed and important for people and a team to get better. But pls, if you dont read and understand what has been written already, then please, for the sake of god, stop typing and stfu (not specifially to you Giorno). We had various public discussion about specific things and if you still dont get why we did some things the way we did, may god help your soul.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: MarxeiL on December 07, 2022, 02:36:57 pm
NW is boring ass game prove me wrong
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Desant on December 07, 2022, 02:40:21 pm
NW is boring ass game prove me wrong

sir folkas more like sir pidoras
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: [Stryker] on December 07, 2022, 02:41:31 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/60v4m3.png)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 07, 2022, 03:38:03 pm
NW is boring ass game prove me wrong
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Voluble123 on December 07, 2022, 06:24:25 pm
It’s 2022 Nw let’s not do fse debates like it’s 2017 arguing about 3hr tournies cus french people run away :) It wasn’t planned to use diff servers for each league it’s just how it worked out with server availability and testing wse2 script! One tourny each for play offs then it’s Xmas! Only parting msg I’ll say is I don’t think 5 or 10 ping would have changed the position of any teams, the correct team reached playoffs based on skill and performance. Both leagues will be on french servers for finale so I don’t wanna see bitching when Spooky gets first picks and blames the server :)
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Xaos on December 07, 2022, 09:46:00 pm
don’t wanna see bitching when Spooky gets first picks and blames the server :)
Very true
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: IR_Nr59_Lamastos on December 07, 2022, 11:14:42 pm
It’s 2022 Nw let’s not do fse debates like it’s 2017 arguing about 3hr tournies cus french people run away :) It wasn’t planned to use diff servers for each league it’s just how it worked out with server availability and testing wse2 script! One tourny each for play offs then it’s Xmas! Only parting msg I’ll say is I don’t think 5 or 10 ping would have changed the position of any teams, the correct team reached playoffs based on skill and performance. Both leagues will be on french servers for finale so I don’t wanna see bitching when Spooky gets first picks and blames the server :)

Well, in Nr59, Maxi, Hydrax and I had highping. Mine was constant 120. We experimented with VPNs so my ping went down to 50, but still felt way higher than that. It did make quite a huge difference in our morale, that much I can say :P It's shit when you can actually use an excuse. We'd rather play and have to accept our situation than to be able to say: "Well, without our 2best players having high ping, we could have won", especially if matches are close (e.g. Nr59 6-7 Jordan).

That's why we are looking forward to the last tournament being played on another server.  Thank you @administration for looking into the problem and coming to this conclusion :D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fluxyy on December 07, 2022, 11:36:19 pm
NW is boring ass game prove me wrong

sir folkas more like sir pidoras
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Vixtro on December 08, 2022, 12:45:00 am
It’s 2022 Nw let’s not do fse debates like it’s 2017 arguing about 3hr tournies cus french people run away :) It wasn’t planned to use diff servers for each league it’s just how it worked out with server availability and testing wse2 script! One tourny each for play offs then it’s Xmas! Only parting msg I’ll say is I don’t think 5 or 10 ping would have changed the position of any teams, the correct team reached playoffs based on skill and performance. Both leagues will be on french servers for finale so I don’t wanna see bitching when Spooky gets first picks and blames the server :)

Well, in Nr59, Maxi, Hydrax and I had highping. Mine was constant 120. We experimented with VPNs so my ping went down to 50, but still felt way higher than that. It did make quite a huge difference in our morale, that much I can say :P It's shit when you can actually use an excuse. We'd rather play and have to accept our situation than to be able to say: "Well, without our 2best players having high ping, we could have won", especially if matches are close (e.g. Nr59 6-7 Jordan).

That's why we are looking forward to the last tournament being played on another server.  Thank you @administration for looking into the problem and coming to this conclusion :D
Agreed! Things like that could have big impact on the smallest things which can result in different ways that it normally would go like in l1
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Hertz on December 08, 2022, 12:45:16 am
It’s 2022 Nw let’s not do fse debates like it’s 2017 arguing about 3hr tournies cus french people run away :) It wasn’t planned to use diff servers for each league it’s just how it worked out with server availability and testing wse2 script! One tourny each for play offs then it’s Xmas! Only parting msg I’ll say is I don’t think 5 or 10 ping would have changed the position of any teams, the correct team reached playoffs based on skill and performance. Both leagues will be on french servers for finale so I don’t wanna see bitching when Spooky gets first picks and blames the server :)

Well, in Nr59, Maxi, Hydrax and I had highping. Mine was constant 120. We experimented with VPNs so my ping went down to 50, but still felt way higher than that. It did make quite a huge difference in our morale, that much I can say :P It's shit when you can actually use an excuse. We'd rather play and have to accept our situation than to be able to say: "Well, without our 2best players having high ping, we could have won", especially if matches are close (e.g. Nr59 6-7 Jordan).

That's why we are looking forward to the last tournament being played on another server.  Thank you @administration for looking into the problem and coming to this conclusion :D
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fietta on December 08, 2022, 09:38:46 am
It’s 2022 Nw let’s not do fse debates like it’s 2017 arguing about 3hr tournies cus french people run away :) It wasn’t planned to use diff servers for each league it’s just how it worked out with server availability and testing wse2 script! One tourny each for play offs then it’s Xmas! Only parting msg I’ll say is I don’t think 5 or 10 ping would have changed the position of any teams, the correct team reached playoffs based on skill and performance. Both leagues will be on french servers for finale so I don’t wanna see bitching when Spooky gets first picks and blames the server :)

Well, in Nr59, Maxi, Hydrax and I had highping. Mine was constant 120. We experimented with VPNs so my ping went down to 50, but still felt way higher than that. It did make quite a huge difference in our morale, that much I can say :P It's shit when you can actually use an excuse. We'd rather play and have to accept our situation than to be able to say: "Well, without our 2best players having high ping, we could have won", especially if matches are close (e.g. Nr59 6-7 Jordan).

That's why we are looking forward to the last tournament being played on another server.  Thank you @administration for looking into the problem and coming to this conclusion :D

If it's the server I'm thinking, then you're absolutely right, I believe the first 5v5 L1 had this problem, and as soon as we joined the server it was laughably bad and voluble changed it on the spot to the French server.
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Phailur on December 08, 2022, 04:47:01 pm
Why dont you just switch the server on and off again?
Title: Re: EGS | Discussion
Post by: Fluxyy on December 08, 2022, 09:50:05 pm
Totally agree on the yellow muskets ban, I will comply with the admins decision by using my new texture pack 😎🤙

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