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The Lounge => Off Topic => Topic started by: ManiacBullseye on October 02, 2018, 07:08:35 am
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I made this thread in response to the WPC "sudden rule changes" and sketchy management. Feel free to support or oppose the WPC/Jorge in this thread, since Jorge doesn't want to address the issues himself it seems.
I am also aware that nothing I say is gonna change anything, but anybody who censors speech is a liberal. And I really don't like liberals.
I'm not allowed to post or even copy and paste steam conversations on here. So anybody wanting the sources/proof that these messages happened can private message me on steam for them.
After the forced forfeit, Jorge made it seem like I was going to be let back into the next trading round like Matt and Vetro were(steam me for proof). Jorge hastily unfriended me after I questioned these things(also steam me for proof). Apparently he "changed his mind" and I'm now banned from this league AND the next one(as if there is gonna be a next one right :D. The only reasoning Jorge gave was that I was "aggressive" and "unsportsmanlike." Yet he let Vetro and Matt back into the league after they had also quit the league, the same as I did. Especially insulting considering the fact that both of them have a history with cheating and Vetro in particular violates TOS every time he joins a teamspeak. Which I personally don't mind, but Jorge decided to fabricate a story about how I "used racial slurs and attacks" against him when I left AfterShock, which I will explain more further on.
Here is another example of Jorge's underhandedness. Jorge bought suns illegally hours after the trading period was up, but rationalized it by saying that it was "PACIFIC TIME" when he picked him up. Which makes no sense considering the entire league has been run on eastern time from the beginning, as are all NANW events(steam me for proof) . So this doesn't hold up. Apparently Jorge fabricated a story about me stating that I used "racial slurs and attacks" against him upon leaving AfterShock(effectively breaking TOS). This never happened and anybody who knows me knows that I never use that sort of language anyway. Ask Sleek or Rune since they were in the same channel with us when my team decided to quit the league following being forced into an unprecedented forfeit(steam me for proof). The members of AfterShock that were present at the forfeit were fed up with the league and Jorge's sub-par management/biased judgment. It was agreed upon to leave.
Jorge didn't take issues seriously until Atomic was also threatening to quit the league, at which point he made a "less biased" committee(which just so happened to be made up of his friends like Godfreid and Risk). Not to mention Jorge himself was on the committee, which pretty much destroyed the whole point/purpose of having the committee in the first place. So naturally the vote was for atomic to be forced into a forfeit(and for the rules to be altered on myself).
Jorge is making rules up as he goes at this point and he clearly doesn't want an unbiased WPC. The credibility of the league went down the toilet when Jorge bought himself a team and also played on it.
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hey hows ur team doing
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hey hows ur team doing
LOL
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hey hows ur team doing
LOL
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hey hows ur team doing
LOL
which just so happened to be made up of his friends like Godfreid and Risk
yeah he rigged the straw poll elections for each team. lololol.
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hey hows ur team doing
LOL
which just so happened to be made up of his friends like Godfreid and Risk
yeah he rigged the straw poll elections for each team. lololol.
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hey hows ur team doing
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Amen for hating on Liberals! Suns being on Masters isn't really a big deal tbh (Next time he should pick a Eastern Time to close the Transition Period so someone doesn't bring this up again). However the reason he let MATT and Vetro back in because Wolfpack needed people since Fart fucked it over and Moraine didn't do anything with the team. I asked nicely to let me get them in the league since MATT hasn't played a match and Vetro just left the league the week before (both were on Wolfpack previously). From what I remember Maniac didn't kick anyone off the team so I don't know where that came. I agree Jorge shouldn't be apart of the voting since it would seem bias and pretty much 2 votes for Masters. He can use Risk to represent his team's issues like everyone else is doing and just be at the meeting to listen to the final decision made by the committee.
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Maniac let me explain to you.. at this point you’re just trying to start shit you can do whatever you want outside of the league like if I wanna say some shit I can if it’s said in the league, matches or in Jorge’s Teamspeaks it’s a little different. I haven’t cheated for about a year now, remember when you tried getting me and MATT banned? It didn’t work the community and Jorge were in favor of giving us both a chance. You kicked everyone off your team and insulted Jorge.
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Maniac let me explain to you.. at this point you’re just trying to start shit you can do whatever you want outside of the league like if I wanna say some shit I can if it’s said in the league, matches or in Jorge’s Teamspeaks it’s a little different. I haven’t cheated for about a year now, remember when you tried getting me and MATT banned? It didn’t work the community and Jorge were in favor of giving us both a chance. You kicked everyone off your team and insulted Jorge.
You get him Trotruck!
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I fucking hate but love vetro at the same time someone help please this cage is closing in OH GOD
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Maniac let me explain to you.. at this point you’re just trying to start shit you can do whatever you want outside of the league like if I wanna say some shit I can if it’s said in the league, matches or in Jorge’s Teamspeaks it’s a little different. I haven’t cheated for about a year now, remember when you tried getting me and MATT banned? It didn’t work the community and Jorge were in favor of giving us both a chance. You kicked everyone off your team and insulted Jorge.
Thanks, for actually providing me with something to reply to. First off, I'm not trying to start shit considering the fact that I was just gonna leave things be after leaving the WPC. Then Jorge started doing the same routine with Atomic and in their case it was even more unjustified. Again, the reason for making this thread was to let dialogue happen without Jorge being able to censor. Second off, if you read my original statement, you would know that I wasn't throwing insults at you. I even stated "I don't mind it personally," and I was referring to your language outside of matches. Yes I do remember when at least half the people participating in the WPC tried to get you and Matt banned on the premise that you two had cheated in the past, and no the whole community was not in favor of giving you a chance. Lastly, if you had read my original statement, you would understand that the AfterShock team members that were there that day wanted to quit the league. The general sentiment was that Jorge had cucked us and I wasn't going to hold them hostage in a league that didn't even respect the players.
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Amen for hating on Liberals! Suns being on Masters isn't really a big deal tbh (Next time he should pick a Eastern Time to close the Transition Period so someone doesn't bring this up again). However the reason he let MATT and Vetro back in because Wolfpack needed people since Fart fucked it over and Moraine didn't do anything with the team. I asked nicely to let me get them in the league since MATT hasn't played a match and Vetro just left the league the week before (both were on Wolfpack previously). From what I remember Maniac didn't kick anyone off the team so I don't know where that came. I agree Jorge shouldn't be apart of the voting since it would seem bias and pretty much 2 votes for Masters. He can use Risk to represent his team's issues like everyone else is doing and just be at the meeting to listen to the final decision made by the committee.
Also, thanks for giving me something to reply to. As I understand it, Jorge bought suns when it was 11:26pm MST, which would have made it 1:26am eastern time. Even if it was a loophole, it is still understood that eastern time is and always has been used in the WPC and the majority of other NA events. And the WPC leader himself abused it which doesn't help matters. I don't have a problem with Godfreid having a vote, that wasn't what I meant. Masters essentially had 2 votes and Jorge shouldn't have even been in the committee himself because the whole purpose of the committee was to bypass possible bias that Jorge had. Risk should have been the sole representative.
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Sure thing
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I respect any man who can play Ravana well.
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Thread names like this are the reason he wont let you back in
He already decided that before I made this thread. He never gave me a chance to explain either, which is why this thread was created.
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Step 1: Pride
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I would also like to add that the ORIGINAL rules for the WPC said that anybody who quits the league is permanently banned from the league for that season. This rule was ignored/changed when Jorge brought Vetro and Matt back into the WPC after they quit. There were more than enough free agents in the pool to fill teams, so there is no excuse for this sudden rule violation. This is just another clear example of Jorge enforcing and/or changing rules whenever he feels like it since I was banned from this league and any following seasons of it for quitting like Vetro and Matt did. I would also like to add that Matt and Vetro both got "hearings" for a lack of a better word, where the WPC members got to decide to let them into the league. I was given no such treatment. In fact, he would rather unfriend and block me than address it.
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Step 2: Envy
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I respect any man who can play Ravana well.
ok. have you EVEN SEEN MY RAVANA JUNGLE MAIN. DA PENTA. catch me tonight winters ;)
Step 1: Pride
Step 2: Envy
LOL
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I would also like to add that the ORIGINAL rules for the WPC said that anybody who quits the league is permanently banned from the league for that season. This rule was ignored/changed when Jorge brought Vetro and Matt back into the WPC after they quit. There were more than enough free agents in the pool to fill teams, so there is no excuse for this sudden rule violation. This is just another clear example of Jorge enforcing and/or changing rules whenever he feels like it since I was banned from this league and any following seasons of it for quitting like Vetro and Matt did. I would also like to add that Matt and Vetro both got "hearings" for a lack of a better word, where the WPC members got to decide to let them into the league. I was given no such treatment. In fact, he would rather unfriend and block me than address it.
This thread isn't gonna get you anywhere with me and MATT's name, the thread even without our names isn't gonna get you anywhere. But to answer your satement why we were allowed back in is because the league needed more players, at the time Wolfpack was in a mess with Moraine leading it at the time so since me and MATT were originally both Wolfpack he let us back in to help the league get bigger.
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I respect any man who can play Ravana well.
ok. have you EVEN SEEN MY RAVANA JUNGLE MAIN. DA PENTA. catch me tonight winters ;)
Step 1: Pride
Step 2: Envy
LOL
I tried to get back into it last week but struggled to, but the one thing that I will always remember from Smite is Ravana being absolute shit at release. You had to sweat to do even remotely decent with him.
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I respect any man who can play Ravana well.
ok. have you EVEN SEEN MY RAVANA JUNGLE MAIN. DA PENTA. catch me tonight winters ;)
Step 1: Pride
Step 2: Envy
LOL
I tried to get back into it last week but struggled to, but the one thing that I will always remember from Smite is Ravana being absolute shit at release. You had to sweat to do even remotely decent with him.
he's been good for a bit now just not recognized/played a lot. since even season 4, I would say, he has still been played in SPL. He is very skilled/mechanical to play.
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WPC Has been really fucked with the rules since the beginning more time should have been put forward into thinking about situations that could occur and have specific requirements for certain situation outcomes.
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You didn't think through some things either
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You didn't think through some things either
SHUT YOUR DUMB ASS UP SANDERS
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I hope I don't get caught. Been playing in the league this whole time under a fake name.
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I hope I don't get caught. Been playing in the league this whole time under a fake name.
Under my name?
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I hope I don't get caught. Been playing in the league this whole time under a fake name.
Shouldn't be hard to find the worst player in the league
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I hope I don't get caught. Been playing in the league this whole time under a fake name.
Shouldn't be hard to find the worst player in the league
Yeah, haha.
Lurvy is bad right guys? haHAA
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I would say lurvy was playing for me but I don’t actually play soo