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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: USE4life on September 19, 2014, 11:08:20 pm
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Top Swede Vander was arguing with me earlier about what was better, Heavies or Hussars. Now I imagine this has been asked before but after we've all been in the game a bit longer we can probably make a better judgement now.
Personally I think the lack of health on a hussar and the increased speed means controlling a hussar takes more ability to control and you you must be a more skilled player to master hussars. On the other hand I feel heavies are allowed to rely on their increased health to almost tank their way through an enemy. Obviously heavy nubs disagree but I'm wondering what the wider opinion is. I assume there are more hussars in the community so let's take that into account with the vote.
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Hussars! :)
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Both has good and bad sides. It ends up in player not the class.
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Both has good and bad sides. It ends up in player not the class.
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+ Hussars can delay, heavies can't.
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I think both are good but for me I just enjoy hussars more not because they're 'better' but because I find them more fun to play. Nor does it really matter which is better as long as I have fun playing it
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Nub, I didn't say they were directly better.
The hussar class can do things the heavies can't, and vice versa. I was protesting the notion that they're worse than hussars and that they're less useful - and also claiming that hussars are far easier to play.
Largely, hussar relies on having others make mistakes for them and dipping in and out as you please, and never being caught by others. A hussar regiment can just run away or dart in quickly, whereas heavies have to dedicate a charge; this requires more thought from the commander, more skill from the players (you can't run away, you can't outrun the enemy cavalry, you can't run into a bayonet, ever, but survive stabs) and a good amount of teamwork. A heavy regiment has to be closely tied, as someone has to be the linebreaker and the one who grants the others the kills, whereas light cavalry can gallop around and snag their own whenever an opportunity arises.
Thus, in my opinion and experience, hussars are -far- easier to play, easier to get kills with, but not necessarily better than heavy cavalry. One is a constant needle in the eye for artillery and skirms, the other smashes through formations like nobody's business and can easily carry a team to victory with a good charge.
Note that I'm not claiming that hussars aren't hard to master. There are pretty damn good light players out there, and far more of them than there are heavies.
so tired why did i write this i will regret it in the morning
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Throughout my time leading in events I only really feared heavy cav. Being able to take bullets and keep going and the longer sword makes it far more effective in my opinion during linebattles. Then you have the PLG who can do a anything
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It depends on what function you need them to fullfil.
Personnally, I would only use heavy Cavalry for charging against line infantry, if I had to choose between the two.
Just because the heavy cav is pure power and muscle, and you need that against bayo's
I'd use hussars for anti-cav, anti-artillery and anti-light and skirmishers.
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Both has good and bad sides. It ends up in player not the class.
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Heavy Cav is cooler + They wreck infantry.
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The poll speaks for itself, the hussar just has more advantages than the heavy cavalry. That said, that doesn't mean heavies don't have their own little perks/advantages. Although when playing competitively I'd say playing hussar is preferable. But hey, thats just my two cents. ;)
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Hussars are the fastest unit in the game which means they can exactly decide when they would attack - or not.
So if they are not under fire or anything and are very patient AND are also more or less good they can defeat any number of enemies on a large enough battlefield because they can engage the enemy right at the exact spot where they want them to have and at exactly the point in time when they are disposed.
So yeah, hussars are the best unit in the game assumed they have time and space ad infinitum.
Ofc I still voted for heavies because they carry on the honourable spirit of ancient knights and can never be compared to Hungarian robbers and horse thiefs which get represented by the Hussars. :-*
Also if you agree with my argumentation, that would mean heavies are more skillful to play which would make them more desirable for people with higher standards than only their own score.
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Heavy cav with armour, but without it then just go hussar.
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Both has good and bad sides. It ends up in player not the class.
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I'd be better of with heavy cav. They have a longer, more powerful sword and more health, which means they won't usually die when their horse dies, enabling them to kill their adversary.
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Both has good and bad sides. It ends up in player not the class.
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Depends very much on circumstance.
Hussars will be good for 'poking' the enemy, harassing and nibbling away at the sides of a formation until it collapses.
Heavies, however, can take 1-2 shots before going down, and can (given a decent chance) ride down a line of infantry and annihilate it very quickly. It simply comes down to training, practice and experience on the riders and their opponents, no type is 'better' than another.
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Hussars can still take 2 shots from far away :)
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I think we get it now
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Hussars can still take 2 shots from far away :)
Sure, I was under the impression that when you charge infantry...you get closer to them though, hence why I mentioned the one shots ;)
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Hussars in-game. Heavies in real life/history
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Heavies can swing beyond the reach of hussar sabre. Heavy>Hussar but you got to stick to tactics to win a match.
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It depends on what you need them for, as I've explained before.
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I been in heavies and a hussar from what I played I think hussar
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Heavies stomp when as bots, someone had the brilliant idea of adding armour to horses...