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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2014, 02:42:31 pm »
Yeah, Germans for me. They have awesome uniforms. Unlike the French. Blegh.

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2014, 03:00:29 pm »
Heil Kaiser dir! all I can say...

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 03:07:01 pm »
Fur das Vaterland! 2nd Reich best Reich.

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 03:11:30 pm »
Germans worst cannon fodder 2k14

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2014, 06:39:34 pm »
I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.
Polan is of dangerous to FSE
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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2014, 06:40:59 pm »
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2014, 07:06:22 pm »
I like both sides it seems like its good balanced and i also heard that the Chauchat wasn't the best gun. However i go for Germany in the end.

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2014, 07:30:38 pm »
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o
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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2014, 07:52:20 pm »
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.

Lets just all hope the French are not stuck with Chauchat model 1915s. They would have a hard time equipped with "the worlds worst gun"
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Actually, it's not a terrible gun at all. If you read Pétain's 1917 survey of French weapons, many regiments called it a very effective offensive and defensive weapon. It was noted as being useful providing flanking fire, defending conquered trenches, and during offensives, using walking fire. Many Chauchats were noted to have fired thousands of rounds perfectly during combat. They did note some stoppages due to lip deformation and dirt, but it's not as common as people nowadays think it was.

I believe that the bad reputation of the gun stems from the American model, Mle 18, which converted the Chauchat to using the US .30-06. It didn't work out and had tons of issues due to the .30-06 being more powerful 8mm Lebel and just poor manufacturing. Pretty much it was useless and really did jam after a couple rounds like the myths say. Even though American troops were primarily armed with the original French Mle 15 with Lebel rounds, a few Mle 18s were sent to the front lines. Most likely they never saw combat but you can imagine how reporters would swarm over the guys unlucky enough to be assigned with a gun that won't even fire properly. Mle 18s were always thrown away and it is my guess that the reports of Mle18 were more widely published so the reputation of a gun that jams every few seconds spread to the name of the Chauchat, both Mle 15 and 18. It's either that or American Chauchat gunners were just shit at cleaning their Chauchats and weren't given the training to use them as effectively as their French counterparts did.

So no, it isn't a great gun. But it's far from a bad weapon. It's jamming issues were over exaggerated. Also, think about it this way. Both the French and German armies realized the need for a light automatic weapon. The Germans spent the entire war developing the MP 18 and even when it was done, it came out few in number. The French grabbed a pre-war design that could be made out of scraps and were immediately able to manufacture thousands and provide them to troops all over Europe. There's a book called Honour Bound: Chauchat Machine Rifle where you can read more about this.

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2014, 09:24:25 pm »
France cuz Hitler fought for Austria/Germany
To be honest thats a BullShit reason
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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2014, 09:59:12 pm »
The Germans are unreal

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2014, 10:13:56 pm »
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
Polan is of dangerous to FSE
Im from Poland , a land of lawlessness

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2014, 10:17:35 pm »
France because I'm French.

What did you expect honestly ::)
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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2014, 10:22:04 pm »
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
Yes but if you need 1 round quickly then the Lebel is the rifle you want

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Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2014, 10:29:19 pm »
If i remeber correctly, Chauchat was hated for often jamming.
The jamming is simulated in game by the rubberbanding :P



I hate the fact the Lebel rifle doesn't use clips, makes reloading annoying.

But, that 8-round capacity! :o

makes reloading even more tedious as you have to manually load 8 rounds, yes you can shoot longer but I prefer a quick reload.
Yes but if you need 1 round quickly then the Lebel is the rifle you want
If it comes down to close range the one with lebel will easily win since he can just reload one round quickly while the one with the Gewehr needs to load an entire clip.