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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1800 on: April 11, 2016, 08:07:44 pm »
Anyone here know if the russo-german legion had colours during the napoleonic wars?

In Stephen Summerfield's Brazen Cross of Courage (Partizan Press, 2007) there is a chapter on the Russo-German Legion, and all it has to say on colours is:

Quote from: p. 101
Flag
Ernst Friedrich Graf von Munster proposed the Legion flag as being St. George killing the dragon with the inscription "Heran! Gekommen ist die Zeit: es fallt der bunte Drache, aus allen Landen weit und breit ertönt der Ruf der Rache." ("Come on! The time has come: the disordered/motley dragon falls, from all countries far and wide sounds the call for revenge.") Ernst Moritz Arndt (a contemporary patriotic writer) mentions that the St. George was encircled by oak leaves and gives the text as "Auf! Auf! Gekommen ist die Zeit!" ("Arise, arise! The time has come!")

Looking up Ernst Moritz Arndt however, I found a passage that actually combines both descriptions. This is from Zwei Worte über die Entstehung und Bestimmung der Teutschen Legion (Two words about the origin and destination of the German Legion), printed in 1813. https://books.google.ca/books?id=QmVlAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27#v=onepage&q&f=false

Quote from: p. 27
In ihren mit Eichenlaub, dem Lorbeer deutscher Helden, umstickten Fahnen sieht man den heiligen Georg, der den höllischen Lindwurm ersticht, und man liest darin die Reime:
Auf! Auf! Gekommen ist die Zeit!
Es fällt der bunte Drache,
Aus allen Landen weit und breit
Erklingt Ertönt der Ruf der Rache.



Surrounded by oak leaves, the laurel of German heroes, could be seen sewn onto the flags Saint George stabbing the infernal dragon, and one could read the rhyme:
Up! Up! The time has come!
The motley dragon falls,
From all lands far and wide
Rings/chimes/sounds whatever the call of revenge.

Nothing really about the actual colours of the Colours, but the saint and slogan is the heart of the matter.
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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1801 on: May 30, 2016, 04:03:12 pm »
Next weekend Bourtange, anyone?

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1802 on: May 30, 2016, 05:01:03 pm »
Yes. But only on Sunday. We will see ya on the battlefield.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1803 on: May 30, 2016, 08:40:31 pm »
Aye, I'll be at Bourtange. They'll be a strong Batavian presence this year.
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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1804 on: May 30, 2016, 09:51:00 pm »
No Bourtange for me. Probably no Napoleonic for me ever again anyway.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1805 on: May 30, 2016, 09:57:35 pm »
No Bourtange for me. Probably no Napoleonic for me ever again anyway.

Don't leave us ! You will stick with WW1 ?

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1806 on: May 30, 2016, 10:05:41 pm »
just because everything got fucked up oin your napoleonic association

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1807 on: May 30, 2016, 10:50:14 pm »
Things don't get fucked up there, it is fucked up. It's no longer about history, it's just about people using it to spite eachother. And I don't want to be a part of that - even if I still could because the 85e wouldn't accept me as a member.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1808 on: May 30, 2016, 11:13:04 pm »
At least no Napoleonic reencating in the NL I guess.
Kinda fucked up for Duuring there, its a long story.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1809 on: May 30, 2016, 11:16:23 pm »
Short story: Politics.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1810 on: May 31, 2016, 05:45:52 am »
That sort of thing has disenfranchised me a little with the hobby. I've dealt with too many people who their entire life revolves around the hobby and often use positions of power within organizations to fill a perceived lack of power in their daily lives. The pettiness and drama that plagues almost every club is rotten for the hobby. I'm glad to hear that in some circles that culture is not represented.
Of course, I also think lines should be able to move in double rank without having emotional breakdowns.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1811 on: May 31, 2016, 02:11:47 pm »
Duuring, its time to move down under.. we have better politics then anywhere in the world, better health care, better foreigners, we love the dutch, and our reenactment scene is improving...

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1812 on: May 31, 2016, 06:22:28 pm »
That is why I have not joined any club. And will never do.
We are doing our own thing. Not as a official club or anything like that. Just as a group of people/friends that like reenacting together.
No one has the command, everyone has the same say. We decide who is going to be our corporal/sergeant/general/whatever (though we only do corporals anyway...) from event to event. Whoever wants to do it and whoever is best at it/has the most skill will do it.

It works well. There is no reason to be part of a club.

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1813 on: June 01, 2016, 12:57:46 am »
That's how we work in cosplay haha..and as you have discovered, it works

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Re: Let's discuss: Reenacting!
« Reply #1814 on: July 17, 2016, 02:04:54 pm »



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