Lancers: Still an Issue AGAINST OTHER CAVALRY

[Menelaos]

Has anyone noticed that lancer supremacy makes any other cavalry class impossible to play? I realize that this is this has been an apparent problem since MM and somewhat fixed in NW. However, should they be limited in actually ability or numbers? I just haven't seen any rules (at least in the majority of NA/EU events I play in) that limit lancers, which seemed to happened in MM. Would making the lancer cap of 10 benefit smaller cavalry groups or just fuck over lancer tactics in general?

Example:

Cavalry on team 1 is X, Cav on team 2 is Z. If X has 15 lancers and Z is at 10 then clearly Z will lose no matter what. If Z was allowed lancers because they fit a rule that stated that 10 or less allows lancers then Z would have better chances against X.

[ClearlyInvsible]

Seems fair enough. I mean Lancers are pretty much the end all cavalry in NW, unless you shoot them off the horse before they get close to you you're a dead man.

[McEwan]

Not the case. If a group of lancers is not extremely well-coordinated, hussars or even heavy cav can easily get in close, disrupt the formation, and cut them down. Multiple times we (PLG) have been hussars (sometimes less than 12-strong) and destroyed 15-man lancer squadrons with only around 5 casualties. Lancers can be killed just as easily other cav units; it just depends on the respective skill of the opposing forces, just like engagements with any other type of cav. If you know how to beat them, you can.

[Peppers]

These threads are pure gold.

[tjdietz]

I maybe could see your point on a more inexperienced level but when you get better at cav lancers become easy you look for your chance to attack when their bucked and cant block or from behind and unless your running strait at them their rarely going to get a 1 hit kill.

[SeanBeansShako]

No they are not. Pay attention and shoot them/their horse and they go down easily. Just hope when they get up with the saber you can handle them.

[Madbull]

Down block if there not Couching.

[TheBoberton]

Lancers have never really been a problem for someone who has even a rudimentary grasp of situational awareness.

The only issue I've had lately is getting used to using the shortened light cavalry sabre against them.

[regwilliam]

when you kill their horse don't let them get back they are more dangours when they get back up

[Riddlez]

The couched lances are easy to dodge, and rarely a lancer (at least in public), have any skill whatsoever.

[Partisan]

People are still arguing this? They ****ed the lancer class. It is still playable but when you think M&M... Stop hating lancers 

[Erik le Rouge]

A single lancer, for sure is easy to kill. You just have to be careful with your horse, and keep it alive. Then, a cool block, and you throw yourself on him to slash his face with your sword, he just can't escape.
If you're a cuirassier, then, act like it ! Tank as much as possible, and get your giant sword into the ennemy.
If you're on foot, block and wait for some help

But if a cav (hussars for example) regiment face a lancer regiment, which is organized etc, there's way more challenge, and I personnally find this attractive. I'm a cavalry man for 2 years now, and I don't think lancers ruin the game, that's just another way to fight, and it's always good to know how to face a lancer or many.

Anyway, the last time the 7e faced a entire lancer regiment was on MMRussia, against the FK if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, doesn't really matter

[Jelly]

(Rider 1)Aim to cut the lancer off in a diagonal movement in-front of him, while blocking downwards.
His horse will rear up, and render the lance useless.
(Rider 2)Quickly follow in and attack the vulnerable rear of the lancer.

*DISCLAIMER*
This method can end up in the death of Rider 1 if not done carefully.
It worked in the KDG.

[MackCW]

These threads happen because the PLG changes the tide of battle during NA events.

[Dom13WorstNW]

These threads happen because the PLG changes the tide of battle during NA events.

PLG cant be Stopped. Need a Nerf