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Anthony's Dueling Guide
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:29:31 am »
Dueling Guide

Dueling: Think of dueling in its purest form as a game of pingpong. Player One attacks and Player Two counters, then Player One has an option to counter Player Twos counter and so on and so forth. Thus the true meta of dueling is learning how to counter counters.

This is done with primary stuns. Although during the course of a duel the enemy player will also be fainting or holding their attacks and you will be attempting to counter their holds or feints by trying to use secondary counters to punish them. You will run into players who will not want to throw attacks and will attempt to hold for prolonged periods of time and then either wait to do a secondary counter on you or simply stab into your block after much holding. Ie. Drake is a good example of a player who utilizes this method. In order to combat that you must be able to learn to constantly spam players and be prepared to primary stun whenever they attempt to secondary counter you.

My meta is broken down first into a general 3 step system.
1. Throw attack at enemies block
2. Primary stun
3. Repeat until the enemy dies.
Secondary stunts are useful and have their place, however they entertain more risk leaving you open to getting one shotted and are sometimes inconsistent due to a variety of factors that make them inferior to a primary stun.

So the next thing is within my meta there are techniques and in order to use those techniques you need to understand the details that make them work.

What options do you have when you're holding an attack on the enemy's block?
Stab their block and bait them into a primary stun. Also it tends to be the case that either the enemy is able to successfully counter you but you kill them with a primary stun, or the stabs that you will tend to throw in order to do a successful primary stun are the same kind of stabs that are extremely difficult to secondary stun in the first place. Leading them to a catch-22 where they will either die if they counter you, or they will die attempting to counter you.

What options do you have when the enemy is holding upstab and keeping range like Drake?
Throw a block up then down, attack then throw the block up again.

What options do you have when the enemy is fientspamming like extazz?
Stab right into them but make sure you are looking down far enough that your not stabbing directly into their hitbox so they can stun you. You only need a very small amount of space for the attack to make that swish noise and enable your primary stuns and fastblocks.
What options do you have when the enemy stunblocks you?

What options do you have when an enemy blockchambers you?
Instant Chamber, Forcepoke, Instant feint

What options do you have when enemy is trying to fientchamber you?
Same things mentioned above

What options do you have when the enemy is trying to regular chamber you?
Same things mentioned above

What to do when you're holding a block on the enemy?
You can go for a blockchamber with the recovery feint as a backup.
You can go for a feint chamber
However you can simply hold a block wait for them to stab then throw a stab yourself baiting a primary stun

What options are open to you after you stab a block?
Normal Fastblock
Instant Feint block
Instant Feint attack
Instant Chamber
Instant Chamber into block

What are the biggest mistakes you can make in dueling?
Stabbing against the block or throwing a long stab. Stabs should be thrown in between the arms of the enemy and as soon as you release the stab and hear the noise of the swish flick into the enemies block. This prevents you from stunning yourself for a long time that will lead to your death. It also prevents you from poking against them.

Stabbing then blocking. You should always be queuing up the next attack as soon as you release your lmb because that enables instant chambers, instant fients, and fastblocks.


Important Terminology and technical details to enable the techniques *See MindMap* https://mm.tt/1961745016?t=XRSJCfiQ4q

Primary Stuns: Instant Feints, Instant Chambers

Secondary Stuns: Block Chambers, Feint Chambers, Regular Chamber, Stunblock, Recovery Feint

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2021, 02:35:15 am »
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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2021, 02:36:36 am »
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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2021, 02:45:10 am »
:What options do you have when the enemy is holding upstab and keeping range like Drake?"  you're from NA and you say drake pfft sellout...nigga ill shit on "drake"
Throw a block up then down, attack then throw the block up again.

Bill will you train me

quit mentioning EU people in duel guides they are ass

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2021, 02:50:26 am »
Dueling Guide
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If you want to contact me about the price of a private lesson message me on steam. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121697603/


Value added: I am a player of almost eight years with thousands of hours of teaching and coaching under my belt that has allowed me a great technical and mechanical knowledge of the game. Primary stuns which I now consider my bread and butter of my dueling is a recent innovation I have made that has allowed me to dominate dueling. The information I can give will certainly boost your dueling dramatically  or your money back if your unsatisfied.
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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2021, 02:55:37 am »
what happens when you just good at game and dont think about the complicated things?
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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2021, 02:56:15 am »
what happens when you just good at game and dont think about the complicated things?
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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2021, 03:10:26 am »
Was this the guide that got deleted once

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2021, 03:43:33 am »
Was this the guide that got deleted once
Nope that was a different one

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2021, 03:44:06 am »
what happens when you just good at game and dont think about the complicated things?
It means your simply goated

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2021, 03:45:05 am »
:What options do you have when the enemy is holding upstab and keeping range like Drake?"  you're from NA and you say drake pfft sellout...nigga ill shit on "drake"
Throw a block up then down, attack then throw the block up again.

Bill will you train me

quit mentioning EU people in duel guides they are ass
Well because other than Suns there are no Top NA duelists who play like drake so its for those EUs who deal with the memers like drake.

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2021, 05:55:37 am »
How much for lessons?

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2021, 06:05:38 am »
anthony needs groupfighting lessons

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Re: Anthony's Dueling Guide
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2021, 08:23:29 am »
you cringers actually think about this shit? i just click m1 and people die lol