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Duel tourneys are boring, slow, grindy, and painful to watch as a spectator.


I am one of the top North American Duelists and I have thousands of hours in the game. Yet even at a high level and extremely interested in the game, I cant even sit down and enjoy watching two players compete at the highest level in the old ruleset. I however think the players in this video should be praised at playing to the rules and getting to the top in spite of them. I know as someone who enjoys dueling the dedication, patience, and focus that is required to win in this ruleset. However like any sport like UFC rules change to make the game more engaging for spectators and to draw out different skillsets within players. Thus here are the simple ideas presented to make dueling once again more fun enjoyable and prestigious in warband.

Objectives: Making dueling Spectator friendly
Making dueling rely on aggressive fast paced spilt second mechanical ability



Rules: 30second rounds, 3 blocks in a row limit
If goes to draw player with more damage dealt wins
if draw with no damage done on either side both players suicide and restart

Ideas:
Right now I'm looking at finding a person to create scripts to have these ruleset automated.
Continuing to simplify ruleset and make it more effective to encourage the previously stated objectives.
Gather attention of community and streamers.



Future Concept: Make a NWWC style tourney with NWWC teams having livestream matches with proper hype go along with it. With winners of those tournaments battling it out on a finial grand stage to declare one nation victorious at creating the best duelist in Europe


Augment: Its normal for sports that involve 1 on 1 competition to change and develop rules with the interest of making it spectator friendly and also take a elite level of skill.

However in warband just like in early UFC's people would use tactics to slow down the fight to draw things out and make it defeat the point of fighting in the first place.

Example of Skeying, blocking, and holding in UFC


Example of New ruleset reducing the time of the fight and making it more entertaining and draws out skills of players more.


I am totally open to novel ideas on how to change the ruleset to achieve the goal of making it more spectator friendly and competitive for players. Let me know your thoughts and message me on fse or steam if your interested in helping me make this happen.
Atm I am looking for people interested in adming, scripting, streaming, and creating a fse thread.

Thanks! -Anthony


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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2021, 02:45:32 am »
This ufc roleplay thing in mount and blade a lil autistic gonna be honest.

2 attack directions inevitably leads to long duels  :-\
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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 02:54:14 am »
I tried to make dueling more interesting and get people involved. It populates the duel server but overall it’s still just dueling. The best part about it is the trash talking and the beef it creates. People don’t want to do it anymore especially the best players in the game. Significant lack of interest unless there is a prize.

I was thinking about making the UFC NW belts and major bouts have a prize like $10 or something. And every time you defend the belt it’s another payday type of deal. But I’m not tryna spend money like that on this game lol. Would be a cool concept tho
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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 04:28:20 am »
You can’t suggest this then s key in a duel against cwater for 5 minutes straight not attacking and then the round ends lol
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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 04:31:15 am »
You can’t suggest this then s key in a duel against cwater for 5 minutes straight not attacking and then the round ends lol
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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 04:34:23 am »
You can’t suggest this then s key in a duel against cwater for 5 minutes straight not attacking and then the round ends lol
What do you think about the rules themselves (Any potential exploits or abuse?) and whats your perception at peoples willingness to try it?

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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 05:06:33 am »
id be all for this on EU

im not sure about how the NA duel scene is but its just pure aids on EU, hence the complete lack of duel tournaments

best example being Hokej vs Ledger which iirc the tournament host cancelled the match cause it took too long

forcing people to focus their skills on getting nice chambers/timings/movement would be a lot more engaging and entertaining than forcing people to be patient

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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2021, 05:08:12 am »
Maple ruined dueling. There’s no going back

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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2021, 05:13:01 am »
id be all for this on EU

im not sure about how the NA duel scene is but its just pure aids on EU, hence the complete lack of duel tournaments

best example being Hokej vs Ledger which iirc the tournament host cancelled the match cause it took too long

forcing people to focus their skills on getting nice chambers/timings/movement would be a lot more engaging and entertaining than forcing people to be patient

I would be willing to even cohost smth like this for the EU scene as this is a breath of fresh air and a step in the right direction!  :)
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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2021, 05:38:50 am »
id be all for this on EU

im not sure about how the NA duel scene is but its just pure aids on EU, hence the complete lack of duel tournaments

best example being Hokej vs Ledger which iirc the tournament host cancelled the match cause it took too long

forcing people to focus their skills on getting nice chambers/timings/movement would be a lot more engaging and entertaining than forcing people to be patient

I would be willing to even cohost smth like this for the EU scene as this is a breath of fresh air and a step in the right direction!  :)
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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2021, 05:40:30 am »
id be all for this on EU

im not sure about how the NA duel scene is but its just pure aids on EU, hence the complete lack of duel tournaments

best example being Hokej vs Ledger which iirc the tournament host cancelled the match cause it took too long

forcing people to focus their skills on getting nice chambers/timings/movement would be a lot more engaging and entertaining than forcing people to be patient
Does anyone have a video of the Hokej vs Ledger fight. That would be a meme to see xD

And I agree I think everytime you hit a block gives enemy chance to punish you. Thus the players who win are those who are best at punishing but at the same time can react quickly if the enemy tries to sidestep or spam

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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2021, 06:03:54 am »
interesting

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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2021, 06:50:40 am »
I am one of the top North American Duelists


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Re: ***THE CURRENT RULES KILLED DUELING AND DUEL TORUNEMENTS***
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2021, 10:48:44 am »
Eh, I mean people just have shit playstyles. Idk if forcing time limits etc. on them is the right way to go though.

Dueling as a concept has not been interesting since 2014 and you can't change my mind!
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