The General Political Thread

[Tharan]

I wonder how badly the uk cabinet shuffle will go tomorrow

[Furrnox]

In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the European Union will be reorganized into the first United European Empire, for a safe and secure society, which I assure you will last for ten thousand years

Complains about EU democracy while living in an oligarchy, lol.

[Theodin]

In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the European Union will be reorganized into the first United European Empire, for a safe and secure society, which I assure you will last for ten thousand years

Complains about EU democracy while living in an oligarchy, lol.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=american+political+system

[Furrnox]

Yeah it's not like coperations are sponsering politicians campaigns and lobbies in congress or anything.

[Theodin]

Yeah it's not like coperations are sponsering politicians campaigns and lobbies in congress or anything.

Ah yes, because money in politics suddenly changes the whole system from a republic to an oligarchy. Cool

[Furrnox]

Seems like you're oblivious to the state of US politics.

[Theodin]

Seems like you're oblivious to the state of US politics.

Because a Swede knows better, and a Swede with a history of anti-Americanism to begin with. You're doing great, sweetie.
There is obviously a question of how much money influences policy, but it's more complicated than declaring a republican democracy as an oligarchy because your views make that a reality.

[Edwin]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42664173

Did he really say it, FSE?

[Theodin]

Those who think he did: anonymous aides, Dick Durbin (D)
Those who think he didn’t: three Republican lawmakers
Hyperpartisanship, everybody! Making truth what your side wants it to be

[StevenChilton]

Seems like you're oblivious to the state of US politics.

Because a Swede knows better, and a Swede with a history of anti-Americanism to begin with. You're doing great, sweetie.
There is obviously a question of how much money influences policy, but it's more complicated than declaring a republican democracy as an oligarchy because your views make that a reality.

Given the suspiciously large amounts of money that gets spent in American elections, and the suspiciously large number of American politicians who are related to one another, it's probably fair to say the US is verging on being an oligarchy and has been for some time. Because you need a lot of money to run for political office in the US that tends to encourage political inbreeding, hence why the Bush/Kennedy/Clinton/etc families tend to cultivate their own donor networks. The same people who funded Bush '88/'92 & Bush '00/'04 also funded Bush '16, and obviously those donors expect a quid pro quo arrangement. Ironically the US has ended up with its own very powerful de facto aristocracy whereas in Britain aristocrats are mostly poor people with fancy surnames living in big, decrepit mansions.

USA should do what the UK does-give political donors knighthoods not legislation    

[Theodin]

Or a donation limit like Canada

[Furrnox]

Those who think he did: anonymous aides, Dick Durbin (D)
Those who think he didn’t: three Republican lawmakers
Hyperpartisanship, everybody! Making truth what your side wants it to be

I don't care for the wording of what he said.
The context is what is interesting, limiting immigration for all lower income countries seem to me like it would kill the idea of the American dream.
It doesn't seem like it's an idea Americans are that interested in maintaining anymore though anyways.

Seems like you're oblivious to the state of US politics.

Because a Swede knows better, and a Swede with a history of anti-Americanism to begin with. You're doing great, sweetie.
There is obviously a question of how much money influences policy, but it's more complicated than declaring a republican democracy as an oligarchy because your views make that a reality.

Aren't you Canadian? Just because I'm a Swede I can't give my opinion like Americans give their opinion on the EU constantly?
Anyhow sure the US is a democracy in theory but rich people do finance politicians campaigns and control all mainstream media. So if the US is a democracy in reality is a though question to answer.

I'm split on what I think of the US I defiantly prefer the US over Russia or China so should Sweden ever choose to join Nato I would support it.

[StevenChilton]

Tbh the US is still more democratic than Sweden, which is barely a democracy.

[Toffee]

US politics is a tough one, to me it seems ludicrous that companies basically buy votes from people and it's all perfectly legal but it's in the constitution I suppose so there you go.

It's difficult to gage if Trump's actually said what he's accused of, there's no real way to prove either way. However, if he did indeed make that remark then that's extremely worrying that a man like that is the most powerful in the world.

[Furrnox]

Tbh the US is still more democratic than Sweden, which is barely a democracy.

Please do explain your reasoning behind that statement.