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Offline MrSt3fan

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Re: Oh KPR, you so funny
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2015, 10:44:38 pm »
Understandably so. I personally don't care much about swearing, but it is the server rules. We don't usually ban unless it's blatant, this case had more to do with the fact that he was purposefully antagonizing and trolling the admin at hand than us actually giving a massive damn about the words used. We understand a little cussing is normal, but it is not hard to keep it off our server. It is the rules we have, please follow them. If Lunatic would like to put in an application to be unbanned, he can come into TS.
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What?
How the fuck was that considered trolling?
Even if I was trolling the fuck out of you guys -- making fun of your mothers and calling you obscene names, which is not even close to the truth -- that would not warrant a perma-ban, without a definite warning (E.g., temp ban or kick), in any server but yours. And like I said, I've played games long enough to know how to change my CD-Key, so I'm not going to connect to your TS just to request an unban. But you guys sure as hell need to have a chat with your ban happy admin. This isn't a Catholic Church, this is the internet. If you can't handle a few cuss words, then you shouldn't be surprised that your servers and your events are dying.

Their server, their rules. The ''that would not warrant a perma-ban, without a definite warning (E.g., temp ban or kick), in any server but yours'' doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what other people do, it matters what they do. I for one think it's great that they're trying to maintain a non cursing server, it ain't easy to do

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Re: Oh KPR, you so funny
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2015, 05:38:13 pm »
Having had this thread pointed out to me by a friend, I have gone in and investigated the matter Lunatic. I pulled up yesterday's logs and read through every instance you pop up in it. The incident in question goes as follows. I have redacted the names and ID's of all players and bolded the lines which are involved in this complaint.

18:31:15 - [Player - 1] motherfucker
 18:31:15 - Player - 2 has joined the game with ID: -------
 18:31:17 - Player - 3 <img=ico_custom_2> Player - 4
18:31:17 - *Admin*[*KPR*Vinze*]: watch the language
 18:31:18 - *KPR*Nalani* <img=ico_swordone> Player - 5
 18:31:19 - Player - 6 has joined the game with ID: -------
 18:31:23 - Player - 7 has joined the game with ID: -------
 18:31:23 - [Player - 8] poo
 18:31:23 - Player - 9 has joined the game with ID: -------
 18:31:24 - [White-Rabbit] fuck
 18:31:24 - [Player -1] ok sorry admin
 18:31:26 - Player - 10 <img=ico_spear> Player - 11
18:31:30 - [SERVER]: *KPR*Vinze* Permanently Banned Player White-Rabbit.
 18:31:30 - White-Rabbit is banned permanently by *KPR*Vinze*.
 18:31:31 - White-Rabbit has left the game with ID: -------


Vinze warned Player 1 (and on the behalf of player 1, the whole server), not to use foul language on our server. You then proceeded immediately after that warning, to use foul language. Looking further back, you had no legitimate reason to say this. You were not killed, you were not in a conversation or a yelling match. The only reason I can see for you having done this, is simply to provoke *KPR*Vinze*, the admin at the time, and to push his proverbial buttons by saying a foul word, immediately after you were warned not to do so. For this blatant and purposeful breach of server rules, and for trolling and antagonizing an admin from the perspective of the admin team, you were banned.

I would like to make this clear, if it has not already been so in our server rules, both in the server message in game, and in our teamspeak. The KPR DOES NOT allow for the use of foul language on our server. While the game is rated T- for teen, you must be well aware that a large number of the active population who plays this game, is under the age of 16. While, we understand that many of these 'children' do curse and use foul language on a daily basis, especially when with their friends. We as a mature playing community, do not wish to encourage this behavior. An example I like to bring up in these situations is one of a child sitting and playing in a linebattle with his regiment. His parents, interested in what their child is doing in this 'gaming' group, are sitting with him for a short while. During this time, someone in  chat rattles off a large amount of foul language and behavior. The parents, appalled at what they have just seen, tell the child he or she cannot play this game, and be part of the community we have. By spouting this foul language, that person has not only denied us a player in the community, but has been a poor representative of our community to the outside world. It is for this reason which we do not allow foul and abusive language on our server.

We do allow for unban requests, however all of these are handled in person in our teamspeak, not over the forums at FSEgames. If you wish to undergo this process, you are more than welcome to come to our teamspeak at KPR.teamspeak3.com, and apologize for your actions. It's a simple process, but we must believe you are sincere in your apology in this case.

In response to your first message, we host two events a week, and loan our server out on other weekdays to other regiments who wish to use it to host their own events. During these times, the attending individuals seem to have no issues in keeping to our fairly simply rule. It is only the rare individual which must be banned both in and outside of events on our sever for breaking our rule about abusive language. If you, as an individual feels the need to use this kind of language, and to antagonizing our admining team, we frankly do not need that kind of individual on our server.

If you have any further questions or complaints, you are more than welcome to post them here or in person on our teamspeak server. Though as mentioned above, unbanning can only happen in person.

Sincerely,
*KPR*Nalani*

"The only reason I can see for you having done this, is simply to provoke *KPR*Vinze*, the admin at the time."
Don't pull that shit on me, Nalani. I was apart of the KPR under the name Dauntless, and I was an admin as well; If cussing has been against the rules, then I've seen KPR break their own rules hundreds of times. Yet, I've never once seen Kolakhan tell anyone that cussing is not allowed on the KPR server. It was 100% logical for me to assume that Vinze was being a grumpy pants as usual by creating and enforcing rules for the sole purpose of finding someone to yell at.
Also, as previously stated, why the instant permanent ban?
Is trolling so out of hand on the KPR server that the only way to combat it is to perma ban anyone who breaks any rule at all?

You acted like a kid and they treated you like a kid.
You intentionally provoked on someone else's server and got kicked for it.
Complaining about it.. is mostly a complain about your own personality.

If you come into my house and I tell you not to smoke.. you start to smoke.. I'll kick you out. (bad example, because I smoke inside)

Respect other people, it's as simple as that

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Re: Oh KPR, you so funny
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2015, 04:12:44 pm »
Saying "their server, their rules" is not primitive, it's simply true.
If I buy a car, I can set in place whatever rules I want for anyone I let ride in it. Regardless of if I smoke, I don't have to let you smoke in my car, as it's my property and can do whatever I want with it. It's a simple statement which sums up the concept of ownership of any given item.

You do not have the right to play on their server, you have the privilege. Therefore, they can attach to that whatever they want.

Anyway, I think this thread has more than run it's course...