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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #330 on: December 23, 2020, 02:28:33 pm »
Running a regiment requires effort and commitment. If you are not willing to scour fse for specialist spots and recruit on minisiege, then your regiment will likely die if it is new. If you are not willing or able to make the investment for a server, your ability to find 1v1s or gfs will be severely hampered and your regiment might die if it is new. However, all of these things are not problems that people from other regiments are going to be able to help new regiments out with, it all comes down to the regiment itself. These are essentially the barriers to entry to this game for new regiments, they are not easy to overcome and will continue to get more challenging the older the game gets. These are issues that the regiment has to overcome themselves. Noone is going to put in the time, effort or money for you. It's as simple as that.

In terms of your tournament idea. You have to understand that those lower to mid tier regiments don't use fse. So you'd need to have someone that knows all these lower tier regiments to host such a tournament. Someone that is established in one of the bigger regiments won't have the slightest clue about what regiments at that level would even be willing to compete in a tournament format. Secondly, there are not a lot of people that like hosting tournaments that they are not able to compete in themselves, especially as low to mid tier regimental groupfights and 1v1s are about the most uninteresting thing to watch. This means that someone that is not personally invested in a regiment on that level will be very unlikely to host such a tournament. The best case scenario is a League 2 format for a normal regimental tournament, which is often slightly difficult to achieve because of the first issue (hosts not knowing lower tier regiments that are willing to play). Still, it is achievable, but only if there are enough lower tier regiments that show interest to the hosts. It's harsh but simple: noone from outside these communities is going to put in the effort to host this tournament for you and  noone is going to cater for these regiments and put in the effort for them through a 2nd league unless they show the hosts that there is enough interest on that level of the community to compete in a tournament format.

All I'm saying is that if these regiments wish to have a lower/mid tier tournament, it needs to come from that community itself. Either by hosting it themselves, or by letting established hosts know that there is an interest from that community to play in their tournaments in a League 2 format.

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The community needs a regimental tournament without the 15thYR, 45thN, 92nd, 96y and 27th . These cancer regiments are killing the game.

Host one then
essentially this but a little more nuanced  :-*
« Last Edit: December 23, 2020, 02:32:39 pm by Rikkert »

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #331 on: December 23, 2020, 02:43:46 pm »
From what i have seen the last year during the pandemic is that, we still can get recruits from public servers and then usually those new members bring maybe 1 or 2 friends that play the game and they join as well. But the amount of those recruits is not even close, to the number that would be needed to make a new regiment from scratch. I do believe thow there is a lack of line regiments, too many people made specialist regiments that are disproportionate to the number of events that are avaliable, if more lines existed maybe even more hosts would think there is a point in hosting events.

But in general i do agree with Rikkert's posts.


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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #332 on: December 23, 2020, 03:43:13 pm »
Crazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reason
It's because you are killing the game Snowwi.

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #333 on: December 23, 2020, 04:02:08 pm »
Crazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reason
It's because you are killing the game Snowwi.
Might go inactive again and come back 4 years later
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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #334 on: December 23, 2020, 04:05:07 pm »
Crazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reason
It's because you are killing the game Snowwi.
Might go inactive again and come back 4 years later
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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #335 on: December 23, 2020, 05:39:07 pm »
All I'm going to say is this healthy public community is a healthy regiment community. Maybe invest more in your public community like regiments used too. I good example is the DKK on NA they would play as a large group together on Bot Surival very often and actually got alot of new players. The regiment exploded I think do to drama. But investing in the NW public community does help the regiment community.

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #336 on: January 20, 2021, 08:11:52 pm »
To be honest, a lot of people that played Mount and Blade were in their teens and in their early twenties, demographics-wise, but I guess as we get older as we go into college, and into work, we spend less and less time on the game.  People come and go it's life, but for Mount and Blade I am glad that there is at least a community and that this guy is still alive, I feel that there will be dedicated people that will try to keep the communities here alive until Private Servers for Bannerlod, War of Rights, BattleCry will come out. There was a short spike when Covid began, as people had to stay home, but as people started to get used to the lockdowns they had to go back to their routines.
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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #337 on: February 24, 2021, 03:01:42 am »
not enough people getting involved
So let’s just ignore someone like Maskman who knows next to nothing about leading and the capabilities of regiments performing well in a linebattle type of event.
To state that anyone on a “good day could beat the 77y/15thYR” is just a meme of its own, if that was the case why don't you beat the 77y or 15thYR then!?

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #338 on: February 24, 2021, 08:13:33 am »

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #339 on: February 24, 2021, 02:54:41 pm »
Let's play holdfast or Prime and load instead :)

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #340 on: February 24, 2021, 08:15:10 pm »
I might be wrong and it would also probably never happen, wouldn't a sale on both Warband and the NW DLC help with luring in new potential players?
Than again that's Taleworlds decision and not FSE's.

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #341 on: February 24, 2021, 11:33:41 pm »
I might be wrong and it would also probably never happen, wouldn't a sale on both Warband and the NW DLC help with luring in new potential players?
Than again that's Taleworlds decision and not FSE's.
They are on sale Every summer/winter whatever sale, nw 75%, warband 50% last time I saw it.
But people check it out, see the year of release, then see the whack graphics. So few people decide to buy the game.

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #342 on: February 25, 2021, 10:27:24 am »
Its just a shame that the game runs piss poor on max settings. Because I don’t think it looks that bad, especially when you run the l’aigle overhaul mod. Even in small groupfighting maps with say like 10 v 10 the game runs so slow, its almost impossible to perform well, and I have a monster PC. I always have to turn down the graphics so the game would react as fast as I want it to.

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #343 on: March 17, 2021, 03:08:31 pm »
So an interesting point was given by Chriseh and Tardet during the EIC twitch test stream the one prior to the one with Gi.
They talked about how native managed to get themselves into an E-sport position, now a days you dont hear a lot about it but the native community were always far smaller then the NW community.

But they still managed to get sponsors and host something that really was on a professional level and from an outsider perspective (myself) it put a lot of life back into the native game.

I think personally NW can do this to, if you simply think back of the pretty hardcore rivalries we have had and still have in our community, it really has been filled with really good competitive moments, in the regimental scene, GF teams scene, duel scenes, etc.

If we can get the NW community united behind this idea of lets try to hit the E-sport scenery I think we have a solid chance of getting a lot more old people back into the game + getting new people because due to cloud that you can get thro twitch/youtube, lets be honest a lot of fucking people who first go into warband/NW saw the videos from Malakith, Aldemar, Chadman and thought to themselves lets fucking play this it looks pretty sick.
But eventually you have achieved everything in this game after some years and you result to either play for fun or just stop playing but when a prize pool of some sort can be added other then some individuals donating a few bucks (nothing bad to the people who donated I did it myself as well), lets say like a proper prize pool of 500 euros or above that would make things a lot more interesting and who knows where the limit would be, if manage to market ourselves in a good way.

Ofcourse their are many obstacles along the way, to name one is that NW is an old game... BUT its a solid game yes it has its occasional flaws but it truely hold some sort of skill to play this game.
Look at CSGO its also a very old game with more features but still it has stayed relatively the same in its core competitive play.

I might ofcourse be talking from a very optimistic point of view but I honestly believe we are able to pull it off, we already have so many great youtubers/twitchers like Tardet, Shadey, Chriseh, etc.

I am interested what people would think about this :)

PS.

I myself already started a bit of trial commentary see how it could workout on my youtube hence I thought I would give some more explanation here 8)
« Last Edit: March 17, 2021, 03:11:03 pm by pieter »

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Re: What IS killing the game?
« Reply #344 on: March 17, 2021, 03:58:50 pm »
After the Battle of Bucharest I was in the talking stages of a LAN with Frank from Taleworlds this was before he left and it fell apart. But it's not impossible they were interested even back then doing something big like the Bucharest LAN.