[IXe] 15ᵉ Régiment de Voltigeurs de la Garde Impériale (Under New Leadership) NA

[ClearlyInvsible]

You guys still accepting people?

[Mook]

 

[Millander]

See I dont get that. Back for like the first 2 years of NW officer aiming was totally allowed but now when I do events outside of the Hardcore LBs and officer aiming is now almost universally illegal.

Because ya know... People NEVER shot officers during this time period!

im not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but based on what little knowledge of this time period im pretty sure officer aiming was against the rules of warfare, or it was seen as a dick move. they claimed that the targeting of officers was pathetic because without them, men would be just running around with no co-ordination and they wouldnt know their duty.

whether they actually followed the rules, well, thats a different story. but like i said, my knowledge of this time period isnt great, in fact its very very little.

Look at the officer casualties of the armies of the period... Officers were fare game. There was an account of French Voltgieurs even taking pot shots at the Duke of Wellington.

You guys still accepting people?

We are bud.

[Pickett Pie]

boomp

[George385]

huh, well, like i said, i have no freakin clue.

but some of it could have been just musket in-accuracy.

[Duuring]

Skirmishers shot officers. It was their task and they were trained in it. As soon as people started deploying those, (which took quite a while but by the time of the Napoleonics, was pretty universal) officers started to get shot. Millander is absolutely right.

Officers are also a ridiculous easy target. They tend to stand in front and waving an epee or sabre. Some of them are even mounted. Even when nobody was aiming for them they still got hit 
This was, after all, the time of 'leading-from-the-front', especially in the French, Dutch and Russian armies.

The numbers speak for themselve. Out of a Dutch brigade which had 111 officers during the Waterloo campaign, 7 got killed, 32 got wounded and 10 went missing, plus one stafofficer killed and three wounded (Including the brigade commander) for a grand total of 53, which is nearly half the officers! In fact, After the first French attack at Waterloo, all five battalions were commanded by captains, the brigade by a lieutenant-colonel. Not all were killed or wounded by musket shots, though.

#Numbers #Proof #HistoricalMaterial

[Reaper]

I. Am. Back!

[George385]

exactly, so im betting that the majority of officers getting shot was just them being standing in the way and not officer TARGETING there is a difference.

[Duuring]

I'm not sure how you suggest we decide the victor of that bet.

Point is that officers not being valid targets, for skirmishers or line, does not have a historical background. Yes, people like to hold on to their myths and romantic stories, but those were shoved into the history books after the use of light infantry became a more vital part of battlefield tactics.

Then again, if you really want to get yourself killed as an officer, try joining the cavalry. They always led from the front, there was no escaping it.

[MackCW]

Look at the officer casualties of the armies of the period... Officers were fare game. There was an account of French Voltgieurs even taking pot shots at the Duke of Wellington.

 

Only Millander could do this.

[Millander]

Some things never change Mack. Also we need to talk about reenacting sometime. I think I have came pretty far in the last year.

George a good example of officer aiming.

At the Battle of Cacabelos by the action of Rifleman Thomas Plunkett (or Plunket) of the 1st Battalion, 95th Rifles, who shot French General Colbert at an unknown but long range (as much as 600 yards (549 meters) according to some sources) during the retreat to La Coruña during the Peninsular War. He then shot one of the General's aides, suggesting that the success of the first shot was not due to luck.

[MackCW]

Some things never change Mack. Also we need to talk about reenacting sometime. I think I have came pretty far in the last year.

George a good example of officer aiming.

At the Battle of Cacabelos by the action of Rifleman Thomas Plunkett (or Plunket) of the 1st Battalion, 95th Rifles, who shot French General Colbert at an unknown but long range (as much as 600 yards (549 meters) according to some sources) during the retreat to La Coruña during the Peninsular War. He then shot one of the General's aides, suggesting that the success of the first shot was not due to luck.

For sure, I'll try and dig up that photo for you.

[Millander]

Sounds good man. You canteen,gun blanket and sack coat have been put to very good use man again thanks for letting me have it. When I start looking for new gear would you be willing to sell anything? Would rather buy from you than a sutler if possible.

[Xethos]

Look at the officer casualties of the armies of the period... Officers were fare game. There was an account of French Voltgieurs even taking pot shots at the Duke of Wellington.

 

Only Millander could do this.

He meant that riflemen had to pay to shoot officers.

[Superbad]

Look at the officer casualties of the armies of the period... Officers were fare game. There was an account of French Voltgieurs even taking pot shots at the Duke of Wellington.

 

Only Millander could do this.

He meant that riflemen had to pay to shoot officers.

"You must pay 5 shillings to kill that officer."