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Title: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on January 18, 2022, 05:18:46 am
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Welcome to NWWC 2022. NWWC (Napoleonic Wars World Cup) is a competition bringing all nationalities from across the globe together to compete against each other, in order to determine who is the most skilled Nation in a Groupfighting format. This year however we will be returning back to a 6v6 format, this is lower than the classic 7v7 but this is due to some nations having lost players over the year. This year we will be only allowing one team per nation. Why, might you ask? The NWWC was designed to bring players together, especially the best of them to compete. Sort of like the randomized tournaments we want to invite people to play with players they may not usually play with in order to get the best chance of winning. The only other major change is that this year we will be trying to pick up on cheating, taking on from what EGS did in their tournaments. The hosts will decide if any signed-up players are 'suspicious' and any marked players will need to record some of their matches or they will not be allowed to partake.
 
The tournament originally started in the spring of 2012, as a pilot designed to test out national group fighting competitions. The pilot was a success and bred a full-blown tournament in the autumn of 2012. As time went by, the original organizers left the community and the latest tournament, hosted in 2015, was organized by Herishey and Bobertini. However, due to Herishey’s part retirement, the tournament was passed on and hosted by Cazasar and Rommel for 2016 and 2017. The latter hosted two amazing NWWC's, along with Mini-NWWC's also. 2016 and 2017 produced two champions in both Germany and France the year after. After his hiatus, Herishey stepped back up into the position of head organizer of the NWWC, and with Hercules, they successfully hosted one of the best NWWC’s to date. In 2019, MarxeiL and Herishey hosted a revamped M-NWWC with great success. In 2020 Kore has taken the role of head organizer in order to bring you a new and successful edition of NWWC. Last year the reigns did return back to Herishey with a solid team of co-organizers hosting NWWC 2021. This year MarxeiL and a very strong team of co-organizers aiming to repeat and possibly surpass the success of last year’s tournament.


(https://img.icons8.com/metro/420/overtime.png)Key Dates:
Captain choice will be 21.02.2022*, Sign-Ups close 06.03.2022*, Team Deadlines will be 13.03.2022*, NWWC will be due to start on 14th of March.*
 
(* - subject to change)

Brackets (https://challonge.com/2rlz9b8e)


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Organisers:

Head Organizer

MarxeiL | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/marxeilgarition/)

Organizer

Kore | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/daKore/)
Organizer

Tw1st[eR]* | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/twister581519/)
Organizer

Chicken | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ckne/)

Advisors

Herishey & Maskmanmarks | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/spikecon1/) & Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/getinvolveddonate/)



Referees:

Referee

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MarxeiL | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/marxeilgarition/)
   
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Red | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198014729778/)
   
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Yovko | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065690525/)
   
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Saphyro | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Saphyro/)

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Dams14 | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026540550)
   
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Termito | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Termit0/)
   
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Gi | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Giqq/)
   
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Hunteh | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/25yHunteh/)
   
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Kubus| (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/kubusicek)
   
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Chuckster | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/chuckster58/)
   
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Plushka| (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/NW_PLUSHKA/)
   
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Contributors:

Graphics

Elsse | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ncxvjop)
   
Graphics

MarxeiL | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/marxeilgarition/)
   
Thread Design

MarxeiL | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/marxeilgarition/)
   
Statistics

Wursti | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/derechtewursti/)
   
Map Maker

Chicken | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ckne/)

Server Host

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Mac | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Cormerax/)
   
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Cookie | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198061436046/)
   
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Tw1st[eR]* | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/twister581519/)


Title: Re: ???
Post by: maskmanmarks on January 18, 2022, 05:23:40 am
 :-X
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Post by: Janne on January 18, 2022, 05:28:30 am
omg so hype
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Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 18, 2022, 06:28:11 am
Bodyas nation cup is returning? Omg such hype!
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Post by: Kore on January 18, 2022, 06:55:17 am
Omg yes marxiel the guy who abandoned all his league projects mid way is going to host a nations league, nothing can go wrong!11!!
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Post by: MarxeiL on January 18, 2022, 07:00:26 am
Omg yes marxiel the guy who abandoned all his league projects mid way is going to host a nations league, nothing can go wrong!11!!
🤫
Title: Re: ???
Post by: John Price on January 18, 2022, 07:12:37 am
Omg yes marxiel the guy who abandoned all his league projects mid way is going to host a nations league, nothing can go wrong!11!!
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Post by: Wursti on January 18, 2022, 08:19:35 am
Niedersachsen
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Post by: Skittykiller on January 18, 2022, 09:45:08 am
I can make my Korean team?? I can certainly make 2 koreans come
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Post by: Fluxyy on January 18, 2022, 10:25:13 am
 :o
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Post by: Steinmann on January 18, 2022, 10:33:09 am
Omg yes marxiel the guy who abandoned all his league projects mid way is going to host a nations league, nothing can go wrong!11!!
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 11:32:51 am
Omg yes marxiel the guy who abandoned all his league projects mid way is going to host a nations league, nothing can go wrong!11!!
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on January 18, 2022, 12:11:17 pm
Russian duel tournament? Nice!
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Post by: Snowwi on January 18, 2022, 12:36:28 pm
Niedersachsen
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Post by: Gi on January 18, 2022, 01:14:01 pm
Partizani nations league?
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Post by: Dren on January 18, 2022, 01:17:07 pm
Partizani nations league?
ok get someone do do that plz
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Post by: charle_Lebrun on January 18, 2022, 01:24:42 pm
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Post by: tommyxd on January 18, 2022, 01:32:34 pm
Partizani nations league?
ok get someone do do that plz
I heard vegi's planning on doing something similiar
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 01:35:54 pm
Can't wait to see another Marx event he ditches and leaves me to deal with1111!111!1!11!!
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 01:39:39 pm
Partizani nations league?
ok get someone do do that plz
I heard vegi's planning on doing something similiar
Soon!
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Ambiguous on January 18, 2022, 02:26:21 pm
I cant wait for Bodya's captain application for UA
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Post by: Arch4ngel on January 18, 2022, 02:28:38 pm
I cant wait for Bodya's captain application for UA
i support bodya
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 02:29:20 pm
I cant wait for Bodya's captain application for UA
i support bodya
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Post by: Desant on January 18, 2022, 02:37:46 pm
Can't wait to see another Marx event he ditches and leaves me to deal with1111!111!1!11!!
Classic
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 02:38:42 pm
Can't wait to see another Marx event he ditches and leaves me to deal with1111!111!1!11!!
Classic
maybe you can help me big e
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Desant on January 18, 2022, 02:40:27 pm
Can't wait to see another Marx event he ditches and leaves me to deal with1111!111!1!11!!
Classic
maybe you can help me big e
Ready to go to the ends of the world for you
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Moi~ on January 18, 2022, 03:09:43 pm
I'm sure this will be hosted by the most competent minds in the community :)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Mauri on January 18, 2022, 03:20:58 pm
Nation based competitive 100v100 linebattle?
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Post by: Tardet on January 18, 2022, 03:31:20 pm
I'm sure this will be hosted by the most competent minds in the community :)
I'm out of the picture which means this is a project you can trust to happen.  :-X
Title: Re: ???
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on January 18, 2022, 03:35:43 pm
Nation based competitive 100v100 linebattle?

yes please
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 03:36:56 pm
Do you guys think the format should be 6v6 or 7v7. The last NWWC was 7v7 but the two before it were 6v6. MarxeiL is still deciding on the format so I thought I'd ask the question here for him. For me 6v6 is a good size since a few people have since quit the game.
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Post by: KOBZIK on January 18, 2022, 03:44:09 pm
Do you guys think the format should be 6v6 or 7v7. The last NWWC was 7v7 but the two before it were 6v6. MarxeiL is still deciding on the format so I thought I'd ask the question here for him. For me 6v6 is a good size since a few people have since quit the game.
6v6 is more fun and easier to get enough people for the team
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 03:45:07 pm
Do you guys think the format should be 6v6 or 7v7. The last NWWC was 7v7 but the two before it were 6v6. MarxeiL is still deciding on the format so I thought I'd ask the question here for him. For me 6v6 is a good size since a few people have since quit the game.
6v6 is more fun and easier to get enough people for the team
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 03:51:44 pm
You can use this thread for now for general discussion/queries/suggestions to do with NWWC. Actual threads will come when graphics and things are made. I'm not hosting this just to be clear but I have agreed to be an advisor and help out where I can with decisions on the format/running of the tournament in the hope it all goes fairly smoothly.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MarxeiL on January 18, 2022, 03:53:14 pm
That's my dad
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Post by: Hypno on January 18, 2022, 03:55:29 pm
I'm not hosting this just to be clear but I have agreed to be an advisor

Good luck with that.  :)
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 03:57:40 pm
I'm not hosting this just to be clear but I have agreed to be an advisor

Good luck with that.  :)
This time if it crash's and burns I'm throwing gas on.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 04:02:19 pm
I can't fucking wait that nation captains will complain that they don't have their top tier lineup anymore.
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Post by: tommyxd on January 18, 2022, 04:03:42 pm
I can't fucking wait that nation captains will complain that they don't have their top tier lineup anymore.
imagine being from a nation that has more than 3 comp players
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 04:05:41 pm
England will certainly look quite different this year.
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Post by: John F. Kennedy on January 18, 2022, 04:14:28 pm
the main countries will be quite numerous for 7v7 but the smaller nations prefer 6v6 I think
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Post by: Ry@n on January 18, 2022, 04:34:45 pm
6v6 seems smart with the state of comp NW
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Post by: Lvov on January 18, 2022, 04:36:15 pm
6v6 may well remain the main format, more interesting and easier
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Post by: Moi~ on January 18, 2022, 04:40:53 pm
Considering the current times it potentially will be all about UK-France-Germany and NL/PL/SWE really. Which is fine if that's what people want but since we all know it will go down that road we could diversify things a little. After all we want this year to be more memorable.

We could try things out, even if it means more than one event. Just coming up with it rn, main NWWC 6v6 for everyone to participate but with a paralel "league 1" for the big nations where they could muster larger teams. All the big nations can easily create a fully competitive, strong 10 even 12 player team. Or maybe just add that for larger stages, 8v8/10v10/12v12 NWWC matches would be really cool. If that's too much we can keep it standard 7v7/8v8 all the way and host a M-NWWC 5v5 as a supplement.

Or just go for a 6v6 league I guess, but you guys should consider trying out new things.
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 04:44:56 pm
New things are not what NWWC is for, the tournament is the tournament. NWWC isn't a name it's essentially a yearly format. Anything above 7v7 nations will struggle, they did years ago let alone now and I don't like the idea of segregating players in different leagues. That has already caused such a divide of players in EGS and other events like it recently which has been far from positive in my opinion for the community as a whole.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 04:45:32 pm
Let's do NWWC Duel format
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Post by: Flashkodr on January 18, 2022, 04:46:32 pm
6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Desant on January 18, 2022, 04:48:11 pm
6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 04:48:33 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Janne on January 18, 2022, 04:52:16 pm
league or 1 day thing ?
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 04:52:39 pm
From what I understand it'll be the usual groups/knockout format but this is still being discussed.
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Post by: Kore on January 18, 2022, 04:53:00 pm
Multiple teams per nation was a fun thing to try and experiment with. Looking back I can say it indeed is cancer to manage and takes away a bit of the competitive aspect a tournament of this format should have.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on January 18, 2022, 04:54:36 pm
Multiple teams per nation was a fun thing to try and experiment with. Looking back I can say it indeed is cancer to manage and takes away a bit of the competitive aspect a tournament of this format should have.
^
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Post by: StockholmDE on January 18, 2022, 05:00:56 pm
Well. I think it's a great time to change nwwc. NWWC is a name that stands for the best of each nation competing against each other for weeks. That means no 1-day tournament and only 1 team per nation. But the rest should be arguable imo.

NW in general lacks professionalism. And although that may depend on personal preferences but NWWC is probably the most prestigious tournament for the absolute top players of this game. So why shouldn't we introduce a more exciting format that remains exciting till the very end. That provides fewer 15-5s but rather close matches throughout. And where is professional broadcasting, where is prize money? Especially with the generation change in big nations such as UK and Germany that is likely gonna happen (unless retired players come back for this) it seems like a brilliant timing. Nearly every sport has had a revolution in their respective world championship. No need to keep things that don't provide the best entertainment for players and spectators.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 05:03:07 pm
where is prize money?
Bodya will donate 7 euro's
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Chuckster on January 18, 2022, 05:03:56 pm
Multiple teams per nation was a fun thing to try and experiment with. Looking back I can say it indeed is cancer to manage and takes away a bit of the competitive aspect a tournament of this format should have.
Multiple teams advantage England and disadvantage France
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Fietta on January 18, 2022, 05:04:31 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on January 18, 2022, 05:05:48 pm
Why not making a 1-day tournament after NWWC with multiple-nation teams ?(in some time, like at summer) And keeping NWWC to what it stood for
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Chuckster on January 18, 2022, 05:09:05 pm
Why not making a 1-day tournament after NWWC with multiple-nation teams ?(in some time, like at summer) And keeping NWWC to what it stood for
ENWC was with multiple teams  ;)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Fietta on January 18, 2022, 05:10:36 pm
Why not making a 1-day tournament after NWWC with multiple-nation teams ?(in some time, like at summer) And keeping NWWC to what it stood for

Don't think anyone would care for it apart from Bodya
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Chuckster on January 18, 2022, 05:12:31 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on January 18, 2022, 05:13:48 pm
Why not making a 1-day tournament after NWWC with multiple-nation teams ?(in some time, like at summer) And keeping NWWC to what it stood for
ENWC was with multiple teams  ;)
I know but why not host it one more time since there are plenty of ppl interested? Last time it was quite fun and it would please both parties - who stand for classic NWWC and those who want multiple teams
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MarxeiL on January 18, 2022, 05:13:54 pm
Why not making a 1-day tournament after NWWC with multiple-nation teams ?(in some time, like at summer) And keeping NWWC to what it stood for
I've actually already proposed it to Chicken. We can always host something like M-NWWC with multiple teams after EGS S4 or simply on the next "big break". But to clear it out now, this NWWC will be played in an original format, with one team per nation.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: John F. Kennedy on January 18, 2022, 05:16:15 pm
Spoiler
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
[close]
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B
it is true, we already know the composition of the teams
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 05:17:47 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B
This, the fact of the matter is in some cases the best players are split between both teams and it is unclear which will do better and if other nations don't end up divided like this the final becomes easy.

Well. I think it's a great time to change nwwc. NWWC is a name that stands for the best of each nation competing against each other for weeks. That means no 1-day tournament and only 1 team per nation. But the rest should be arguable imo.

NW in general lacks professionalism. And although that may depend on personal preferences but NWWC is probably the most prestigious tournament for the absolute top players of this game. So why shouldn't we introduce a more exciting format that remains exciting till the very end. That provides fewer 15-5s but rather close matches throughout. And where is professional broadcasting, where is prize money? Especially with the generation change in big nations such as UK and Germany that is likely gonna happen (unless retired players come back for this) it seems like a brilliant timing. Nearly every sport has had a revolution in their respective world championship. No need to keep things that don't provide the best entertainment for players and spectators.
As for this casting has gotten better over the last few years with every match last year round being recorded or casted just about so we could do stats so not sure where you're coming from there. Prize money is a whole other thing. I've always said I donate 100's of hours of time into these events for everyone I'm not also going to donate 100's of pounds and in the past when we've tried to get donations much like EGS this season you get fuck all from everyone. Which is why EGS currently has no prize pool basically unless DarkTemplar decides to donate all the money himself like he did last year which you can't seriously expect others to do?

Also, you can't be deluded enough to think that at any point M&B will ever have a resurgence or become a better sport. Sure you can make things better but it's hardly worth putting much effort or money into based on the fact it won't cause any real interest or growth in the community.

EDIT: Also M-NWWC isn't off the table, I used to host 1 day 5v5 tourneys every 6 months as part of the NWWC series as I'm sure you know but these ended up being less popular so I started skipping these and generally just doing the normal ones but if someone wants to host these again they are perfectly welcome to do so. The issue with 1 day tournaments is you don't have a great deal of time normally to train with your team or to compose it.
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Post by: StockholmDE on January 18, 2022, 05:25:01 pm
Well. I think it's a great time to change nwwc. NWWC is a name that stands for the best of each nation competing against each other for weeks. That means no 1-day tournament and only 1 team per nation. But the rest should be arguable imo.

NW in general lacks professionalism. And although that may depend on personal preferences but NWWC is probably the most prestigious tournament for the absolute top players of this game. So why shouldn't we introduce a more exciting format that remains exciting till the very end. That provides fewer 15-5s but rather close matches throughout. And where is professional broadcasting, where is prize money? Especially with the generation change in big nations such as UK and Germany that is likely gonna happen (unless retired players come back for this) it seems like a brilliant timing. Nearly every sport has had a revolution in their respective world championship. No need to keep things that don't provide the best entertainment for players and spectators.
As for this casting has gotten better over the last few years with every match last year round being recorded or casted just about so we could do stats so not sure where you're coming from there. Prize money is a whole other thing. I've always said I donate 100's of hours of time into these events for everyone I'm not also going to donate 100's of pounds and in the past when we've tried to get donations much like EGS this season you get fuck all from everyone. Which is why EGS currently has no prize pool basically unless DarkTemplar decides to donate all the money himself like he did last year which you can't seriously expect others to do?

Also, you can't be deluded enough to think that at any point M&B will ever have a resurgence or become a better sport. Sure you can make things better but it's hardly worth putting much effort or money into based on the fact it won't cause any real interest or growth in the community.
Well that matches are even covered is indeed a success but apart from small exceptions the quality was meh.

I never said I expect anybody to put in all the 7€ he earns, but it's simply a fact that without prize money you wont create that big of an interest.

And NW will and could have never become a big thing. But I truly believe that if hosts would have had more courage when the player base was still more existant, we would talk about a lot bigger scene now.
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Post by: Mauri on January 18, 2022, 05:28:03 pm
A teams just fear to be beaten by their B teams  8)
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 05:28:33 pm
Well. I think it's a great time to change nwwc. NWWC is a name that stands for the best of each nation competing against each other for weeks. That means no 1-day tournament and only 1 team per nation. But the rest should be arguable imo.

NW in general lacks professionalism. And although that may depend on personal preferences but NWWC is probably the most prestigious tournament for the absolute top players of this game. So why shouldn't we introduce a more exciting format that remains exciting till the very end. That provides fewer 15-5s but rather close matches throughout. And where is professional broadcasting, where is prize money? Especially with the generation change in big nations such as UK and Germany that is likely gonna happen (unless retired players come back for this) it seems like a brilliant timing. Nearly every sport has had a revolution in their respective world championship. No need to keep things that don't provide the best entertainment for players and spectators.
As for this casting has gotten better over the last few years with every match last year round being recorded or casted just about so we could do stats so not sure where you're coming from there. Prize money is a whole other thing. I've always said I donate 100's of hours of time into these events for everyone I'm not also going to donate 100's of pounds and in the past when we've tried to get donations much like EGS this season you get fuck all from everyone. Which is why EGS currently has no prize pool basically unless DarkTemplar decides to donate all the money himself like he did last year which you can't seriously expect others to do?

Also, you can't be deluded enough to think that at any point M&B will ever have a resurgence or become a better sport. Sure you can make things better but it's hardly worth putting much effort or money into based on the fact it won't cause any real interest or growth in the community.
Well that matches are even covered is indeed a success but apart from small exceptions the quality was meh.

I never said I expect anybody to put in all the 7€ he earns, but it's simply a fact that without prize money you wont create that big of an interest.

And NW will and could have never become a big thing. But I truly believe that if hosts would have had more courage when the player base was still more existant, we would talk about a lot bigger scene now.
NWWC has been one of the biggest tournaments for years in terms of player base even though we only allow one team per nation and we've never had a prize pool so I'm sorry to say but I think you're wrong. These tiny little prize pools we see other than the odd NW tournament haven't generated much extra interest and people quite simply are not going to donate £300+ to most tournaments in a dead/dying game.

Yes in most cases coverage will be a bit meh, but that's going to be the case always. There are a lot of matches going on over the course of a week in some cases 12-15 hour long matches you can't expect streamers to cover all of these when NW is such a dead game. People simply won't want to cover them all and if they do what benefit do they get, a cheeky 40 views?

It's an easy thing to say whilst being a part of the community yourself, also not stepping up isn't it. :)
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Post by: Desant on January 18, 2022, 05:29:20 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B

Admins can ban such players from playing in division B, as is done on the EGS
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Post by: Hertz on January 18, 2022, 05:29:48 pm
NWWC is for the best players of each nation to go up against each other. Having essentially B and C teams compete is pointless. Especially when you have people playing for a second team and third team that would in no way shape or form get into the top national team. And having it done all on 1 day is a bad idea, as the community is older now, people have responsibilities outside of NW, and could miss the thing entirely. Doing a league as NWWC has always done, gives people the chance to field their best teams on a given day. Making it better competition and more enjoyable imo. Nice to see this being picked up again though, always love an NWWC, one of the very few things that will make me play NW currently.
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 05:30:43 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B

Admins can ban such players from playing in division B, as is done on the EGS
It just encourages division and as I've said before is not the purpose of NWWC, I've said it many times but if someone else wants to step up and host a league 2/rookie NWWC they are more than welcome, but let me guess once again no one will want to do it themselves? ;)
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Post by: Chuckster on January 18, 2022, 05:33:54 pm
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B

Admins can ban such players from playing in division B, as is done on the EGS
3 France/England team in League 1   :-*
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Post by: Desant on January 18, 2022, 05:41:45 pm
Spoiler
As I said then, it's not what NWWC is for. NWWC is designed to be elitist. It is where the best players from each nation come to play against one another. Not a place for everyone.

Also the one year we did that we saw nations like France have two weaker teams rather than one stronger one and make the worst final I've ever seen (no offence FRA 2 you did well to get there but the match was easy). Personal conflicts always come into play and ruin certain teams strength like this with the way the NW community is.

I quite enjoy the idea of having multiple teams per nation, though that for sure comes at the cost of high-level competition, though that could be countered by a similar EGS format by having the 'main' teams be in Division A and the other teams being in Division B, pretty much what Desant put below:

6v6 seems the most preferable, I guess.
But once there was a cool idea to allow making several teams of the same nation. GER1/GER2, FRA1/FRA2/FRA3 etc.
So more people will get involved=more variablity
I agree, they can also be divided into different leagues

Most people would most likely rather play in Division A than Division B, meaning the teams in Division A should in theory be just as strong as usual, except now the bench 'decent' players could be fielded in a second Division B team. It's all fun and games watching the 'best of the best' battle it out, but people also would like to play considering it's going to be the only GF tournament for a long time.
Which FRA would you put in DIV A Elsse,higen or extazz,drake ? one will be less stronger than england like in 2020 and the other will stomp div B

Admins can ban such players from playing in division B, as is done on the EGS
3 France/England team in League 1   :-*
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putaine  :-[
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Post by: Moi~ on January 18, 2022, 05:45:48 pm
Not much room to reinvent the format if we are to continue the long NWWC tradition, atleast not regarding the formats or setup. It will all come down to the organisation level and the media/contacts of it.

Potential M-NWWC later on, more fun-centered. We can have both and keep the essence intact.



Honestly, no more than one team in the main one. Can't have it all guys!
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 06:06:35 pm
Not much room to reinvent the format if we are to continue the long NWWC tradition, atleast not regarding the formats or setup. It will all come down to the organisation level and the media/contacts of it.

Potential M-NWWC later on, more fun-centered. We can have both and keep the essence intact.



Honestly, no more than one team in the main one. Can't have it all guys!
I agree the NWWC format has room to branch out in more fun tournaments, it always has, and as I've said others are welcome to host as I had no interest in this them like a rookie/b league that is separate from the main event. There are several reinventions I can think of that would probably be great fun. But there are limited amounts of people willing to host and put that work/effort in.

The traditional concept has always brought interest from new and old players alike and had a high amount of players partaking which is why I am very headstrong on not reinventing the main concept, but sub-tournaments or bi-products of NWWC are no issue and could be a great thing. :)
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Post by: Fietta on January 18, 2022, 06:09:25 pm
Apart from NWWC, you probably won't see another GF tournament until late summer, so where does everyone else who can't get into the main team play?

We'd be extremely silly to pretend that a new NWWC will at all be at the same 'high level' as previous NWWCs, in fact it'll probably be quite unhealthy to do it in that format considering numerous 'top' players are currently taking 'breaks', the whole reason there's any form of discussion for NWWC is because everyone has the same worry that the top level just wont be entertaining enough, making the tournament completely dull to both watch and play. You'll end up with weaker teams than last year and fewer quality castings; I'd argue it would probably be 'healthier' since EGS just finished to have a more casual NWWC (with an obvious different name) which includes everyone, otherwise it'll probably just be extremely uninteresting.

Player retention in the form of an NWWC just simply wouldn't be good enough, it's very obvious that turning up to matches at 'top-level' has become a chore at this point rather than it actually being enjoyable. It's only really enjoyable for the people who're actually active and improving, which unfortunately are being left out on this one. Wouldn't surprise me if 'top' players would actually prefer a more casual tournament, they'd probably actually participate in a team their mates made rather than being pulled by the ear to turn up to a top level match.
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Post by: nIvan on January 18, 2022, 06:11:56 pm
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 06:14:59 pm
Apart from NWWC, you probably won't see another GF tournament until late summer, so where does everyone else who can't get into the main team play?

We'd be extremely silly to pretend that a new NWWC will at all be at the same 'high level' as previous NWWCs, in fact it'll probably be quite unhealthy to do it in that format considering numerous 'top' players are currently taking 'breaks', the whole reason there's any form of discussion for NWWC is because everyone has the same worry that the top level just wont be entertaining enough, making the tournament completely dull to both watch and play. You'll end up with weaker teams than last year and fewer quality castings; I'd argue it would probably be 'healthier' since EGS just finished to have a more casual NWWC (with an obvious different name) which includes everyone, otherwise it'll probably just be extremely uninteresting.

Player retention in the form of an NWWC just simply wouldn't be good enough, it's very obvious that turning up to matches at 'top-level' has become a chore at this point rather than it actually being enjoyable. It's only really enjoyable for the people who're actually active and improving, which unfortunately are being left out on this one.
I know in England's case quite a few of them want to come back for this and I have no doubt like in the past many other nations will find the same. NWWC ultimately is normally uninteresting for the most part as we know who will make the top 3 generally.  As I said I'm not against a rookie or B league but there are flaws with that and no one seems to ever be willing to host it as we've seen in the past. But lets say you get all of the best players in FRA/GER/ENG but FRA B and ENG B team sign up. Those teams could beat a lot of the league 1 teams, let alone league 2 it still remains completely unbalanced.
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Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 18, 2022, 06:16:07 pm
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 06:16:48 pm
Where are those irrelevant hosts now to host B league NWWC (not the same ig since NWWC BELONGS TO HERISHEY!)
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 06:18:00 pm
Hey, if someone competent wanted to host a b league under NWWC name and were actually going to do it do a decent quality I'd let them use the name.
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 06:18:56 pm
Hey, if someone competent wanted to host a b league under NWWC name and were actually going to do it do a decent quality I'd let them use the name.
I'll do it but then it has to be with Partizani
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Post by: Fietta on January 18, 2022, 06:19:04 pm
Those teams could beat a lot of the league 1 teams, let alone league 2 it still remains completely unbalanced.

True, but that happens anyways, hence why it's the same top 3 teams. Must be a way to balance another division otherwise nations just sign up to lose (when they could potentially get further and have more enjoyable matches than stomps in a second league), it's not like it's a tournament for 'improving' like EGS, it's just more for playing, so there's no real reason for teams outside the top 5 to even sign up, they just do it for the sake of it.
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Post by: LEVIS on January 18, 2022, 06:19:22 pm
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Post by: MarxeiL on January 18, 2022, 06:20:51 pm
Hey, if someone competent wanted to host a b league under NWWC name and were actually going to do it do a decent quality I'd let them use the name.
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Post by: Rikus on January 18, 2022, 06:22:22 pm
any idea's when this will start btw?
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 06:22:45 pm
Those teams could beat a lot of the league 1 teams, let alone league 2 it still remains completely unbalanced.

True, but that happens anyways, hence why it's the same top 3 teams. Must be a way to balance another division otherwise nations just sign up to lose (when they could potentially get further and have more enjoyable matches than stomps in a second league), it's not like it's a tournament for 'improving' like EGS, it's just more for playing, so there's no real reason for teams outside the top 5 to even sign up, they just do it for the sake of it.
What do you think happens in an actual world cup which is essentially what this is based on? Greece is a prime example, they always partake, never complain and have fun in doing so hence why they do it each year. They rarely win a match but still enjoy taking part.

We have tried other formats in the past over the years which I'm sure many people won't know but they ultimately made the competition less competitive even than it already as at some point during it's spell which is why in the end this tends to be what we always come back to.

any idea's when this will start btw?
I believe not too long after EGS ends.
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Post by: Rikus on January 18, 2022, 06:27:00 pm
tyty

This years NWWC might become really interesting
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 06:49:17 pm
So we've had an idea of something we did once a NWWC years back that no one carried on. It'll be sorta like a Champions League Europa setup. Basically we'll be doing the normal format to start, groups will be seeded/balanced, etc. So let's say we have 4 groups of 4. 2 from both advance, the 2 who do not go into a separate knockout tournament that will be considered league 2 almost. This should have at least 8 teams in it based on who we think will come as well league 1. This is not like a loser bracket where you can still get to the finals it'll be completely separate from the winners side and will have its own final/bronze match. No teams will be enlisted into the league 2 after the group point so no big teams can suddenly appear to win this if they lose and the 'weaker' teams can have more close matches and play for longer.
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Post by: FENTON on January 18, 2022, 06:55:00 pm
LETSGOTEAMSCO
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Post by: Chuckster on January 18, 2022, 06:56:01 pm
Those teams could beat a lot of the league 1 teams, let alone league 2 it still remains completely unbalanced.

True, but that happens anyways, hence why it's the same top 3 teams. Must be a way to balance another division otherwise nations just sign up to lose (when they could potentially get further and have more enjoyable matches than stomps in a second league), it's not like it's a tournament for 'improving' like EGS, it's just more for playing, so there's no real reason for teams outside the top 5 to even sign up, they just do it for the sake of it.
10 leagues of 2 teams so no stomp  :-* :-*
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Post by: ClaSh on January 18, 2022, 06:59:10 pm
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Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 07:00:11 pm
So we've had an idea of something we did once a NWWC years back that no one carried on. It'll be sorta like a Champions League Europa setup. Basically we'll be doing the normal format to start, groups will be seeded/balanced, etc. So let's say we have 4 groups of 4. 2 from both advance, the 2 who do not go into a separate knockout tournament that will be considered league 2 almost. This should have at least 8 teams in it based on who we think will come as well league 1. This is not like a loser bracket where you can still get to the finals it'll be completely separate from the winners side and will have its own final/bronze match. No teams will be enlisted into the league 2 after the group point so no big teams can suddenly appear to win this if they lose and the 'weaker' teams can have more close matches and play for longer.
Just quoting this before this page gets covered in spam and no one sees it.
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Post by: Hertz on January 18, 2022, 07:05:07 pm
Sounds like fietta is thinking he won’t make it into ENG this year  :o
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Post by: Vegi. on January 18, 2022, 07:06:01 pm
Sounds like fietta is thinking he won’t make it into ENG this year  :o
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Fietta on January 18, 2022, 07:14:02 pm
Sounds like fietta is thinking he won’t make it into ENG this year  :o

Sorry I'm Welsh!
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Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 18, 2022, 07:21:27 pm
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Post by: MikeyBruh on January 18, 2022, 07:50:27 pm
This is the year of the bigmac
uncle bigmac
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Post by: MarxeiL on January 18, 2022, 07:55:30 pm
This is the year of the bigmac
uncle bigmac
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Сanada and USA separate teams?
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Post by: MikeyBruh on January 18, 2022, 07:59:01 pm
This is the year of the bigmac
uncle bigmac
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Сanada and USA separate teams?
we might need to combine again I'm not sure if canada would have enough for 6v6 or 7v7 as NA is the most dead it has ever been
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Post by: Chainsor on January 18, 2022, 09:07:24 pm
This is the year of the bigmac
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Сanada and USA separate teams?
we might need to combine again I'm not sure if canada would have enough for 6v6 or 7v7 as NA is the most dead it has ever been

its Strykers time to shine!
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Post by: Steinmann on January 18, 2022, 09:09:37 pm
Those teams could beat a lot of the league 1 teams, let alone league 2 it still remains completely unbalanced.

True, but that happens anyways, hence why it's the same top 3 teams. Must be a way to balance another division otherwise nations just sign up to lose (when they could potentially get further and have more enjoyable matches than stomps in a second league), it's not like it's a tournament for 'improving' like EGS, it's just more for playing, so there's no real reason for teams outside the top 5 to even sign up, they just do it for the sake of it.
10 leagues of 2 teams so no stomp  :-* :-*
Title: Re: ???
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on January 18, 2022, 09:14:30 pm
So we've had an idea of something we did once a NWWC years back that no one carried on. It'll be sorta like a Champions League Europa setup. Basically we'll be doing the normal format to start, groups will be seeded/balanced, etc. So let's say we have 4 groups of 4. 2 from both advance, the 2 who do not go into a separate knockout tournament that will be considered league 2 almost. This should have at least 8 teams in it based on who we think will come as well league 1. This is not like a loser bracket where you can still get to the finals it'll be completely separate from the winners side and will have its own final/bronze match. No teams will be enlisted into the league 2 after the group point so no big teams can suddenly appear to win this if they lose and the 'weaker' teams can have more close matches and play for longer.

I always wondered why this wasn't standard NWWC practice.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: HuntehPetros on January 18, 2022, 09:24:53 pm
This is the year of the bigmac
uncle bigmac
(https://ychef.files.bbci.co.uk/live/624x351/p0469fmz.jpg)
[close]
Сanada and USA separate teams?
we might need to combine again I'm not sure if canada would have enough for 6v6 or 7v7 as NA is the most dead it has ever been
its Strykers time to shine!
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MikeyBruh on January 18, 2022, 09:28:19 pm
Spoiler
This is the year of the bigmac
uncle bigmac
(https://ychef.files.bbci.co.uk/live/624x351/p0469fmz.jpg)
[close]
Сanada and USA separate teams?
we might need to combine again I'm not sure if canada would have enough for 6v6 or 7v7 as NA is the most dead it has ever been
its Strykers time to shine!
[close]
We may be able to squeeze stryker onto the roster but only if he goes back to his old name
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Ry@n on January 18, 2022, 10:48:25 pm
tl;dr the last 7 pages?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MikeyBruh on January 18, 2022, 10:58:26 pm
tl;dr the last 7 pages?
discussing whether it will be 6v6 or 7v7 and probably take place shortly after EGS also NA is going to win it all
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 18, 2022, 11:27:20 pm
So we've had an idea of something we did once a NWWC years back that no one carried on. It'll be sorta like a Champions League Europa setup. Basically we'll be doing the normal format to start, groups will be seeded/balanced, etc. So let's say we have 4 groups of 4. 2 from both advance, the 2 who do not go into a separate knockout tournament that will be considered league 2 almost. This should have at least 8 teams in it based on who we think will come as well league 1. This is not like a loser bracket where you can still get to the finals it'll be completely separate from the winners side and will have its own final/bronze match. No teams will be enlisted into the league 2 after the group point so no big teams can suddenly appear to win this if they lose and the 'weaker' teams can have more close matches and play for longer.

I always wondered why this wasn't standard NWWC practice.
It will be now!
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Ry@n on January 18, 2022, 11:28:38 pm
tl;dr the last 7 pages?
discussing whether it will be 6v6 or 7v7 and probably take place shortly after EGS also NA is going to win it all
6v6 for sure.
Do it in Spring.
Fuck having more than 1 team for nations for many reasons - maybe do that in M-NWWC.
The loser bracket thing is good if losing teams dont just give up and die before end of tourn.
Up the Ra.

Spoiler
Host it then let the game die
[close]
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Golden. on January 19, 2022, 12:51:43 am
NWWC  ;D zzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Kore on January 19, 2022, 12:52:31 am
So we've had an idea of something we did once a NWWC years back that no one carried on. It'll be sorta like a Champions League Europa setup. Basically we'll be doing the normal format to start, groups will be seeded/balanced, etc. So let's say we have 4 groups of 4. 2 from both advance, the 2 who do not go into a separate knockout tournament that will be considered league 2 almost. This should have at least 8 teams in it based on who we think will come as well league 1. This is not like a loser bracket where you can still get to the finals it'll be completely separate from the winners side and will have its own final/bronze match. No teams will be enlisted into the league 2 after the group point so no big teams can suddenly appear to win this if they lose and the 'weaker' teams can have more close matches and play for longer.

I always wondered why this wasn't standard NWWC practice.

well because the one time it did happen nobody gave a shit and it died
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 19, 2022, 12:59:23 am
NWWC  ;D zzzzzzzzzzzz
Ireland stronk?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 19, 2022, 01:10:24 am
So we've had an idea of something we did once a NWWC years back that no one carried on. It'll be sorta like a Champions League Europa setup. Basically we'll be doing the normal format to start, groups will be seeded/balanced, etc. So let's say we have 4 groups of 4. 2 from both advance, the 2 who do not go into a separate knockout tournament that will be considered league 2 almost. This should have at least 8 teams in it based on who we think will come as well league 1. This is not like a loser bracket where you can still get to the finals it'll be completely separate from the winners side and will have its own final/bronze match. No teams will be enlisted into the league 2 after the group point so no big teams can suddenly appear to win this if they lose and the 'weaker' teams can have more close matches and play for longer.

I always wondered why this wasn't standard NWWC practice.

well because the one time it did happen nobody gave a shit and it died
Yeah for the most part that is true, there were a fair few free wins. But at least then we tried and covered all the bases. No one can complain on that front.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: John Price on January 19, 2022, 04:43:19 am
I would say doing the seeded split definitely makes the most sense. Even though yes its a nations cup there are always those teams/players that are barely not able to make it in and not only does it get more players involved, its more competitive for them.

Now my tournament EICS which yes I know has become a little bit of a meme but was slated to be started after EGS finishes. So having NWWC right before it works out great for me as I can track player stats to assist with seeding/previews.

I would have offered to help out with NWWC but I have 0 confidence in MarxeiL. I could maybe have been convinced until Marx tried to blow fire up my arse with some epic bullshit as to how he hasn't abandoned 5+ tournaments. He also seems convinced that these "advisors" such as Herishey and Kore are going to run NWWC for him. Would happily post a log but I don't want the big boy Heri ban hammer.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Theodin on January 19, 2022, 04:45:28 am
Canada
Title: Re: ???
Post by: LEVIS on January 19, 2022, 05:02:49 am
Canada
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Kore on January 19, 2022, 10:06:28 am
I would say doing the seeded split definitely makes the most sense. Even though yes its a nations cup there are always those teams/players that are barely not able to make it in and not only does it get more players involved, its more competitive for them.

Now my tournament EICS which yes I know has become a little bit of a meme but was slated to be started after EGS finishes. So having NWWC right before it works out great for me as I can track player stats to assist with seeding/previews.

I would have offered to help out with NWWC but I have 0 confidence in MarxeiL. I could maybe have been convinced until Marx tried to blow fire up my arse with some epic bullshit as to how he hasn't abandoned 5+ tournaments. He also seems convinced that these "advisors" such as Herishey and Kore are going to run NWWC for him. Would happily post a log but I don't want the big boy Heri ban hammer.

XD
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Janne on January 19, 2022, 10:14:25 am
in kore we trust

🙏 wallah
Title: Re: ???
Post by: John Price on January 19, 2022, 10:19:51 am
Kore once again the saviour of NW

 🙏 🙏 Alhamdulillah 🙏 🙏

Title: Re: ???
Post by: Ry@n on January 19, 2022, 11:06:12 am
Mashallah brother Kore our saviour 🙏🧕
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Gi on January 19, 2022, 02:46:37 pm
2022 is Scotlands year
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 19, 2022, 02:48:45 pm
2022 is Scotlands year
Unicorn not playing this year?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Gi on January 19, 2022, 03:08:41 pm
2022 is Scotlands year
Unicorn not playing this year?
He's our star player
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 19, 2022, 03:09:31 pm
2022 is Scotlands year
Unicorn not playing this year?
He's our star player
You idiot, now he'll be talking about your post for the next coming weeks...
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Nock on January 19, 2022, 06:21:17 pm
Mashallah brother Kore our saviour 🙏🧕
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on January 19, 2022, 09:59:07 pm
2022 is Scotlands year
Unicorn not playing this year?
He's our star player
😎👉👉
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Sanel on January 19, 2022, 10:43:59 pm
new year same story amina koyim

#abimyok
Title: Re: ???
Post by: higened243ed on January 19, 2022, 11:17:38 pm
Ah shit
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Steinmann on January 20, 2022, 12:53:57 am
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 20, 2022, 12:55:04 am
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
You will suffer!
Title: Re: ???
Post by: StockholmDE on January 20, 2022, 01:29:51 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Monty????????????
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 20, 2022, 01:31:45 pm
I bet Stark did not agree to this.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Knightmare on January 20, 2022, 02:48:10 pm
team pakistan app:
me captain
yahya al-price co captain


Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 20, 2022, 03:03:09 pm
team pakistan app:
me captain
yahya al-price co captain
MENA, the only team that's relevant!
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Steinmann on January 20, 2022, 06:49:13 pm
I bet Stark did not agree to this.
he did
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Knightmare on January 20, 2022, 07:28:56 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
stark is on team mena take him off thx
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Giles on January 20, 2022, 08:57:27 pm
no pls
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Mauri on January 22, 2022, 09:32:35 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
stark is on team mena take him off thx
Replace stark with stockholm
Title: Re: ???
Post by: StockholmDE on January 22, 2022, 10:23:16 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
stark is on team mena take him off thx
Replace stark with stockholm
Sounds reasonable
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 22, 2022, 10:36:15 pm
Stockholm can finally play NWWC
Title: Re: ???
Post by: RedFeu on January 23, 2022, 11:45:27 pm
prepare yourselves for tardet and red insane casting
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Shadey on January 24, 2022, 02:51:27 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Steinmann on January 24, 2022, 03:00:12 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej
snart
Title: Re: ???
Post by: AchillesTheOne on January 24, 2022, 03:13:28 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej

He’s busy being top 1 in holdfast
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Louisss on January 24, 2022, 04:42:01 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej

He’s busy being top 1 in holdfast
YO WTF why was i removed?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Nock on January 24, 2022, 05:00:12 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej

He’s busy being top 1 in holdfast
YO WTF why was i removed?
cause ure an immigrant, just like crusher fakes being british
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Hypno on January 24, 2022, 08:42:13 pm
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2014/5f8NZS.gif)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Ambiguous on January 25, 2022, 01:24:06 am
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej

He’s busy being top 1 in holdfast
YO WTF why was i removed?
cause ure an immigrant, just like crusher fakes being british
Title: Re: ???
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 25, 2022, 05:06:15 am
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2014/5f8NZS.gif)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Ry@n on January 25, 2022, 01:08:57 pm
Nation: Sweden
Roster: yes

@270440 #Carolus
@520615 #Fralla8
@490840 #Stark
@128 #Steinmann
@777908 #EpicPizza
@299473 #Bjarzii
@362260 #Rydh
@1556384 #Achilles
@422602 #Sadman
@311192 #Sticklitz
Wheres ma boi Bandej

He’s busy being top 1 in holdfast
YO WTF why was i removed?
Tur_Loius
Title: Re: ???
Post by: ZeroNight on January 25, 2022, 03:07:45 pm
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-20-2014/5f8NZS.gif)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tardet on January 25, 2022, 03:22:29 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on January 25, 2022, 03:25:37 pm
Not stacked gg
Title: Re: ???
Post by: John F. Kennedy on January 25, 2022, 03:32:04 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)

we are grouped

salope dren

Title: Re: ???
Post by: Nock on January 25, 2022, 03:46:11 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)


grouped disapproves
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tardet on January 25, 2022, 03:50:59 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)


grouped disapproves
I will be pleading my case to the head master of grouped, Kraz

Only he can see the righfullness of my quest
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Elsse on January 25, 2022, 03:52:15 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet
wrong game
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on January 25, 2022, 03:57:10 pm
LFT with my duo @Tardet

me : 17y old immortal 1 kd 1.34 main cypher

him : 42y old silver 1 (boosted) kd 0.34 can barely smoke
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Nock on January 25, 2022, 04:04:21 pm
LFT with my duo @Tardet

me : 17y old immortal 1 kd 1.34 main cypher

him : 42y old silver 1 (boosted) kd 0.34 can barely smoke

you forgot that he probably goes afk 20 minutes to prepare/drink his tea
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on January 25, 2022, 04:05:00 pm
LFT with my duo @Tardet

me : 17y old immortal 1 kd 1.34 main cypher

him : 42y old silver 1 (boosted) kd 0.34 can barely smoke
Just get Chris Mccandles to play instead.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tardet on January 25, 2022, 04:29:54 pm
LFT with my duo @Tardet

me : 17y old immortal 1 kd 1.34 main cypher

him : 42y old silver 1 (boosted) kd 0.34 can barely smoke
Best deal in history
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MikeyBruh on January 25, 2022, 06:04:43 pm
Team NA is looking to recruit. Must show proof of Big Macs eaten in the last 2 weeks
Title: Re: ???
Post by: LEVIS on January 25, 2022, 06:06:46 pm
Team NA is looking to recruit. Must show proof of Big Macs eaten in the last 2 weeks
Vetro does it every day, should not be a problem
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 02:33:43 am
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet
@355290 #Axiom

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)
quick edit to add axiom, Grouped will be readyed
Title: Re: ???
Post by: HuntehPetros on January 26, 2022, 03:23:19 am
Team NA is looking to recruit. Must show proof of Big Macs eaten in the last 2 weeks
what if you catch covid but go to a fast food place anyways, would that qualify you for team NA
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MikeyBruh on January 26, 2022, 04:49:06 am
Team NA is looking to recruit. Must show proof of Big Macs eaten in the last 2 weeks
what if you catch covid but go to a fast food place anyways, would that qualify you for team NA
of course
Title: Re: ???
Post by: |Viper| on January 26, 2022, 05:08:17 am
Team NA is looking to recruit. Must show proof of Big Macs eaten in the last 2 weeks
Vetro does it every day, should not be a problem
You go negative every groupfight.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Kraz on January 26, 2022, 12:45:08 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)

we are grouped

salope dren

im going to arrest u all
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Dren on January 26, 2022, 03:21:25 pm
Nation: France
Roster:

@439480 #Dren (C)
@520615 #Nock (C-C)
@1225115 #Higen
@1474976 #ClaSh
@395813 #Troister
@351969 #Narrow
@499798 #Elsse
@633908 #Kraz
@358355 #Spacekiller
@954604 #Tardet

It's time for Grouped to come back  8)

we are grouped

salope dren

im going to arrest u all
(https://i.giphy.com/media/phyIS65F35Sco/giphy.webp)
Kraz rn
Title: Re: ???
Post by: LEVIS on January 26, 2022, 04:15:01 pm
Team NA is looking to recruit. Must show proof of Big Macs eaten in the last 2 weeks
Vetro does it every day, should not be a problem
You go negative every groupfight.
and you go positive for diabetes
Title: Re: ???
Post by: higened243ed on January 26, 2022, 09:49:42 pm
plsed noed
Title: Re: ???
Post by: charle_Lebrun on January 30, 2022, 12:14:21 pm
chinese national team alowed ?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 30, 2022, 12:21:54 pm
Taiwan is apart of China
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Steinmann on January 30, 2022, 12:33:31 pm
Taiwan is apart of China
?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on January 30, 2022, 01:10:23 pm
Taiwan is apart of China
?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on January 30, 2022, 01:41:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cjQ-QFimw4
Title: Re: ???
Post by: charle_Lebrun on January 30, 2022, 07:04:14 pm
Taiwan is apart of China


that a big news i dont remember that
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Phailur on January 31, 2022, 03:24:01 pm
Taiwan is apart from China
Sorry, was a typo
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Mauri on January 31, 2022, 04:22:13 pm
fuck PRC
Title: Re: ???
Post by: HiReaper on February 01, 2022, 10:42:06 pm
team england about to be built different this year
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Phailur on February 01, 2022, 11:10:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwU7itA3DC4
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 01, 2022, 11:21:52 pm
Wait till team Scotland posts its roster
Title: Re: ???
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 01, 2022, 11:34:32 pm
Wait till team Scotland posts its roster
Ain't seeing you in it?????
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Caskie on February 01, 2022, 11:35:39 pm
Time to come out of "retirement"
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Vegi. on February 01, 2022, 11:37:56 pm
@marxeil, when?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MarxeiL on February 01, 2022, 11:43:54 pm
team england about to be built weaker this year
;)
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Muhataa on February 02, 2022, 02:20:50 am
team england about to be built weaker this year
;)

marxeil when you changing flag to russian one
Title: Re: ???
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 02, 2022, 02:25:13 am
team england about to be built different this year
Which one
Title: Re: ???
Post by: HuntehPetros on February 02, 2022, 02:48:21 am
team england about to be built different this year
Which one
NWWC England 2022, duh
Title: Re: ???
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 02, 2022, 09:02:22 am
team england about to be built different this year
Which one
NWWC England 2022, duh
He talking about maskmans or my team, duh.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Tomppa on February 02, 2022, 10:26:55 am
team england about to be built different this year
Which one
NWWC England 2022, duh
He talking about maskmans or my team, duh.
He talking about the team that has louis, duh
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Dusbled on February 02, 2022, 03:22:56 pm
btw I would be interested to do the statistics for the upcoming nwwc again, can we make that happen or too hard getting video content of all matches?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Herishey on February 02, 2022, 03:26:58 pm
I think stats are already sorted with Wursti.
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Dusbled on February 02, 2022, 04:15:50 pm
I think stats are already sorted with Wursti.

:(
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Phailur on February 02, 2022, 05:26:47 pm
I think stats are already sorted with Wursti.
openly admitting corruption?
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Wursti on February 02, 2022, 07:08:08 pm
I think stats are already sorted with Wursti.

they are

but in this format "rounds played" are actually accurate and you can do First Picks + Deaths again :D
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Dusbled on February 02, 2022, 07:19:28 pm
I think stats are already sorted with Wursti.

they are

but in this format "rounds played" are actually accurate and you can do First Picks + Deaths again :D

If a statistic for First Blood/Death and Killing Sprees/Rampages are requested I would be up to do it ^^
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Voluble123 on February 02, 2022, 11:36:34 pm
What’s the point doing NWWC as we already know who the greatest and most successful nation is in the game! Ukraine might get top 3 by default so congrats daveed
Title: Re: ???
Post by: Knightmare on February 03, 2022, 03:37:27 am
What’s the point doing NWWC as we already know who the greatest and most successful nation is in the game! Ukraine might get top 3 by default so congrats daveed
hey its the real life big chungus
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 03, 2022, 11:51:20 pm
Updated
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Knightmare on February 04, 2022, 09:09:22 am
nice header
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlueMoon_IT on February 04, 2022, 09:47:25 pm
If anybody knows in case some "active" italian NW players tell them to add me thx
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198034698415/
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on February 05, 2022, 09:35:37 pm
Here we go again
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 14, 2022, 10:53:04 pm
Firefly is allowed to play for Scotland. Maskman is allowed to play for Spain. Bonapart is allowed to play for Russia.
Austrian/Swiss players can't play for Germany and can take part in this NWWC only while playing for their own nation/coalition.

All of the players above showed proof and are eligible to play for their nation.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 15, 2022, 12:47:23 am
uh what was changed i already forgot
(https://i.gyazo.com/6681368eaca2ca9233d337ab60038f38.png)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 12:12:44 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 16, 2022, 12:13:15 pm
yes welcome aboard
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 16, 2022, 12:39:06 pm
Back when nation swapping wasnt allowed, good times
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 01:12:16 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Absolutely no chance
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 01:15:05 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Absolutely no chance
But why not? Organizers grant others exceptions so why not this one?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 16, 2022, 01:16:25 pm
 ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 01:16:34 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Absolutely no chance
But why not? Organizers granting others exceptions so why not this one?

We have enough autistic people in England; we have to draw the line somewhere and still have enough to fill the gaps. As much as I'm not playing in England it's still my country, it would be an abomination at this point to allow Muha in the team and ultimately would make it a laughing stock.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 01:17:23 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Absolutely no chance
But why not? Organizers granting others exceptions so why not this one?

We have enough autistic people in England we have to draw the line somewhere, and still have enough to fill the gaps. As much as I'm not playing in England it's still my country, it would be an abomination at this point to allow Muha in the  team and ultimately would make it a laughing stock.
So fucking what? Other nations including for example Scotland and Spain have enough players too, so I don't see your point here.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 01:19:28 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Absolutely no chance
But why not? Organizers granting others exceptions so why not this one?

We have enough autistic people in England we have to draw the line somewhere, and still have enough to fill the gaps. As much as I'm not playing in England it's still my country, it would be an abomination at this point to allow Muha in the  team and ultimately would make it a laughing stock.
So fucking what? Other nations including for example Scotland and Spain have enough players too, so I don't see your point here.

I get you're Muha's friend but we have to draw the line somewhere
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 01:20:05 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Absolutely no chance
But why not? Organizers granting others exceptions so why not this one?

We have enough autistic people in England we have to draw the line somewhere, and still have enough to fill the gaps. As much as I'm not playing in England it's still my country, it would be an abomination at this point to allow Muha in the  team and ultimately would make it a laughing stock.
So fucking what? Other nations including for example Scotland and Spain have enough players too, so I don't see your point here.

I get you're Muha's friend but we have to draw the line somewhere
I don't care if it is my friend or not but the line is already crossed so it doesn't really matter at the end.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 01:20:50 pm
I don't care if it is my friend or not but the line is already crossed so it doesn't really matter at the end.

There's a moral line which hasn't been crossed and allowing an autistic nonce into the team would cross that line, maybe once he actually becomes a nice person it'll be more acceptable - there's still some dignity left in this tournament.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 01:22:24 pm
I don't care if it is my friend or not but the line is already crossed so it doesn't really matter at the end.

There's a moral line which hasn't been crossed and allowing an autistic nonce into the team would cross that line, maybe once he actually becomes a nice person it'll be more acceptable - there's still some dignity left in this tournament.
The reason why you're not in the team is because you're not a nice person?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 01:22:43 pm
I don't care if it is my friend or not but the line is already crossed so it doesn't really matter at the end.

There's a moral line which hasn't been crossed and allowing an autistic nonce into the team would cross that line, maybe once he actually becomes a nice person it'll be more acceptable - there's still some dignity left in this tournament.
The reason why you're not in the team because you're not a nice person?

Sense makes not
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 01:24:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_tD5onQK4w
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 03:32:40 pm
When it comes to corruption and dignity of MarxeiL's doings
lets get back in time

Muha has played for UA back in time ( Just about groupstages to start People complained about Muha being in UA-NWWC, so i got kicked out by MarxeiL as community have spoken)

Muha has played for RUS back in time ( Don't really remember which person allowed it but im pretty sure MarxeiL was also part of this agreement)

This year i also tried getting in the RUS Team, ended up getting ''denied'' by MarxeiL
for what sake when rules haven't really changed that much?

Maskman has lived in Spain, congratulations you lived in a country you are now able to play for it. How come when you have no citizenship nor Spanish passport out there?
(having no citizenship nor passport you are most commonly known there as immigrant/visitor)

I can go in Bristol , United Kingdom anytime just because my dad's been there for years and not to mention or flex by any kind he has citizenship & passport
(by going in the UK i have to contact a lawyer to get my citizenship ''in-use'' and apply to replace it with the bulgarian one i have here)

The difference is here that MarxeiL is abusing the rules( more likely ending up to have corrupted things out there )

How come you allow Azerbaijan person to play for the Russian Team How is Azerbaijan connected to the Russia? (However Azerbaijan was part of CCCP not to mention this time was long ago already)



Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MrDixon on February 16, 2022, 03:33:07 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Пошли играть за Россию, огрызок
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 03:33:41 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Пошли играть за Россию, огрызок
I already asked him
His answer was No.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MrDixon on February 16, 2022, 03:39:08 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Пошли играть за Россию, огрызок
I already asked him
His answer was No.
But in 2018 all Bulgarians played with Russia...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 03:39:56 pm
Guessing by the outcome of Maskman being allowed to play for Spain is kinda weird and cringe & clown fiesta
my dad lives in Bristol , UK , (+ he's been there for like 4+ years and has citizenship, which makes it obviously understandable i'm able to go there and get it aswell)
I'd also have UK Passport that was made 1+ year ago
Does this allow me to play for Team England?
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Пошли играть за Россию, огрызок
I already asked him
His answer was No.
But in 2018 all Bulgarians played with Russia...
you have to discuss it with MarxeiL
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 16, 2022, 03:40:55 pm
My grandmother's family came to greece from turkey in the 1920s, can I apply for the turkish team ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 03:41:26 pm
My grandmother's family came to greece from turkey in the 1920s, can I apply for the turkish team ?
No, you can play for the Greece Paralympic team Stoiki
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Coco. on February 16, 2022, 03:43:08 pm
Back when nation swapping wasnt allowed, good times
Few examples but there is way more
Firefly :
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.msg2019969#msg2019969
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=41505.msg1842316#msg1842316
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.105
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38204.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28608.msg1259876#msg1259876
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0

Marxeil: sure you can go play this year with SCO it's fine


Maskman :ENG2 cpt is now in ESP, let's get involve  :)

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.msg1908370#msg1908370
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43339.msg1908181#msg1908181
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44300.0

Marxeil: sure you can play for ESP now dw

Muha:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0
https://youtu.be/75vRPcDUTjc?t=563

Marxeil: I'm sry mate but you won't be able to play for RUS :(

Slavic:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=41535.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38204.0

If you guys aren't friends with the admins or the admin don't need you in his you can't swap from a nation to another I'm afraid :(
no wonder tournaments are worse and worse , maybe if there is a next nwwc you can choice your nationality base on everyone origins from your family, doesn't matter your link with the nation :D

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Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 16, 2022, 03:44:53 pm
Back when nation swapping wasnt allowed, good times
Firefly :
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.msg2019969#msg2019969
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=41505.msg1842316#msg1842316
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.105
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38204.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28608.msg1259876#msg1259876
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0


Maskman :ENG2 cpt is now in ESP, let's get involve  :)

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.msg1908370#msg1908370
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43339.msg1908181#msg1908181
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44300.0

no wonder tournaments are worse and worse , maybe if there is a next nwwc you can choice your nationality base on everyone origins from your family, doesn't matter your link with the nation :D

Advisors

Maskmanmarks | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/getinvolveddonate/)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on February 16, 2022, 03:45:01 pm
To clarify things

I have a Spanish residency card after 5 years of application for a ‘Golden’ visa, I managed to get this as my family moved there and have Spanish residence there. We recently got our TIE number (social security) and pay taxes there, I’ve also applied for a Spanish passport but a residency card is required first before access to full citizenship.

Ethnically I am Filipino but have Spanish blood too as we are a colony. I had honestly no intention of  playing in this NWWC, I have only signed up late on because I was asked to for a nation that actually needs active players, if I wanted easy Palmares id have joined the disheveled English team where they need players as well.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 16, 2022, 03:46:26 pm
Still doesn't being an ENG2 cpt in the past mean you can now only play for england ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MrDixon on February 16, 2022, 03:46:34 pm
When it comes to corruption and dignity of MarxeiL's doings
lets get back in time

Muha has played for UA back in time ( Just about groupstages to start People complained about Muha being in UA-NWWC, so i got kicked out by MarxeiL as community have spoken)

Muha has played for RUS back in time ( Don't really remember which person allowed it but im pretty sure MarxeiL was also part of this agreement)

This year i also tried getting in the RUS Team, ended up getting ''denied'' by MarxeiL
for what sake when rules haven't really changed that much?

Maskman has lived in Spain, congratulations you lived in a country you are now able to play for it. How come when you have no citizenship nor Spanish passport out there?
(having no citizenship nor passport you are most commonly known there as immigrant/visitor)

I can go in Bristol , United Kingdom anytime just because my dad's been there for years and not to mention or flex by any kind he has citizenship & passport
(by going in the UK i have to contact a lawyer to get my citizenship ''in-use'' and apply to replace it with the bulgarian one i have here)

The difference is here that MarxeiL is abusing the rules( more likely ending up to have corrupted things out there )

How come you allow Azerbaijan person to play for the Russian Team How is Azerbaijan connected to the Russia? (However Azerbaijan was part of CCCP not to mention this time was long ago already)
The main joke is that Marxeil is one of those people who, in fact, violated the rules of the NWWC the most and played for Ukraine with Polish and German players in the roster.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 03:49:38 pm
To clarify things

I have a Spanish residency card after 5 years of application for a ‘Golden’ visa, I managed to get this as my family moved there and have Spanish residence there. We recently got our TIE number (social security) and pay taxes there, I’ve also applied for a Spanish passport but a residency card is required first before access to full citizenship.

Ethnically I am Filipino but have Spanish blood too as we are a colony. I had honestly no intention of  playing in this NWWC, I have only signed up late on because I was asked to for a nation that actually needs active players, if I wanted easy Palmares id have joined the disheveled English team where they need players as well.

Not to mention i wasn't really informed about your ''doings'' in Spain (only that you are gonna play for Spain out of nowhere)

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 16, 2022, 03:52:00 pm
To clarify things

I have a Spanish residency card after 5 years of application for a ‘Golden’ visa, I managed to get this as my family moved there and have Spanish residence there. We recently got our TIE number (social security) and pay taxes there, I’ve also applied for a Spanish passport but a residency card is required first before access to full citizenship.

Ethnically I am Filipino but have Spanish blood too as we are a colony. I had honestly no intention of  playing in this NWWC, I have only signed up late on because I was asked to for a nation that actually needs active players, if I wanted easy Palmares id have joined the disheveled English team where they need players as well.
Having a visa and citizenship are 2 very differen't things, especially within the context of NWWC.

Sorry, but going to have to hit you with a:

(https://i.gyazo.com/5a7706176fd7047792861d5127e15ab7.gif)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on February 16, 2022, 04:01:18 pm
Back when nation swapping wasnt allowed, good times
Firefly :
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.msg2019969#msg2019969
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=41505.msg1842316#msg1842316
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.105
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38204.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28608.msg1259876#msg1259876
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0


Maskman :ENG2 cpt is now in ESP, let's get involve  :)

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.msg1908370#msg1908370
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43339.msg1908181#msg1908181
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44300.0

no wonder tournaments are worse and worse , maybe if there is a next nwwc you can choice your nationality base on everyone origins from your family, doesn't matter your link with the nation :D

Advisors

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It's kind of strange that you are calling out people for switching nations considering the fact that you have done it yourself, multiple times

none shout louder than a hypocrite I guess
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on February 16, 2022, 04:12:46 pm
Muha has played for RUS before btw. Just under the name of Alex123 and under his key  8)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 16, 2022, 04:13:01 pm
none shout louder than a hypocrite I guess
Muha has played for RUS before btw. Just under the name of Alex123 and under his key  8)
Hertz always coming in with that shit everybody knows...

Its ok Hertzy, you contributed  ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Coco. on February 16, 2022, 04:14:02 pm
Back when nation swapping wasnt allowed, good times
Firefly :
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.msg2019969#msg2019969
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=41505.msg1842316#msg1842316
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.105
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38204.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28608.msg1259876#msg1259876
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0


Maskman :ENG2 cpt is now in ESP, let's get involve  :)

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.msg1908370#msg1908370
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43339.msg1908181#msg1908181
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44300.0

no wonder tournaments are worse and worse , maybe if there is a next nwwc you can choice your nationality base on everyone origins from your family, doesn't matter your link with the nation :D

Advisors

Maskmanmarks | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/getinvolveddonate/)
It's kind of strange that you are calling out people for switching nations considering the fact that you have done it yourself, multiple times

none shout louder than a hypocrite I guess
kinda funny how you pointing me when you don't know why I didn't played for SAU the year (they were taking people who are only speaking German)  I played for FRA (wasn't I didn't want to) and admins doing a mistake and idm playing for FRA or SAU I didn't swap for some bullshit like it's the case now but admin did shit so make it happened, don't talk when you don't know shit about the situation thx :)

ps: Price , one of the biggest cheater in this game coming to quote like a good dog lovely :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on February 16, 2022, 04:18:26 pm
Back when nation swapping wasnt allowed, good times
Firefly :
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.msg2019969#msg2019969
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=41505.msg1842316#msg1842316
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.105
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38204.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28608.msg1259876#msg1259876
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35093.0


Maskman :ENG2 cpt is now in ESP, let's get involve  :)

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43357.msg1908370#msg1908370
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43339.msg1908181#msg1908181
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45490.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44300.0

no wonder tournaments are worse and worse , maybe if there is a next nwwc you can choice your nationality base on everyone origins from your family, doesn't matter your link with the nation :D

Advisors

Maskmanmarks | (https://i.imgur.com/P8FP0uu.png) Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/getinvolveddonate/)
It's kind of strange that you are calling out people for switching nations considering the fact that you have done it yourself, multiple times

none shout louder than a hypocrite I guess
kinda funny how you pointing me when you don't know why I didn't played for SAU the year (they were taking people who are only speaking German)  I played for FRA (wasn't I didn't want to) and admins doing a mistake and idm playing for FRA or SAU I didn't swap for some bullshit like it's the case now but admin did shit so make it happened, don't talk when you don't know shit about the situation thx :)

ps: Price , one of the biggest cheater in this game coming to quote like a good dog lovely :)
So it's alright when you switch around because you have a good reason right?

Understandable have a nice day
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: PadawaN on February 16, 2022, 04:20:30 pm
This community never changes… , first of all why do you care about who plays for a country or for other just play with ur country and try to win and get funny , in the case of maskman or firefly they are special cases just like r1bazz i mean like there is not portuguese nation for playing on it , its a fun tournament based on nations cuz for example on football there are some players that are playing for other countries which is not the country where they born so fuck off and stop complaining about everything , the same thing for EGS speaking about styles of play if someone is playing passive just try something different for killing them if u dont like it stfu and get the fuck out of the game simply as that , the reason for the game dying is for type of people like that just crying and crying over the entire game. (I know i cried a lot in the past ) but from now just try to be grateful to the admins that now that the game is just dying are trying once more to make the nwwc , ( btw vegi stop complaining in every forum of spanish team get good and lead ur BE country fucking tard)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Steinmann on February 16, 2022, 04:22:39 pm
Can i play for Germany cause Im aryan?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 04:23:25 pm
This community never changes… , first of all why do you care about who plays for a country or for other just play with ur country and try to win and get funny , in the case of maskman or firefly they are special cases just like r1bazz i mean like there is not portuguese nation for playing on it , its a fun tournament based on nations cuz for example on football there are some players that are playing for other countries which is not the country where they born so fuck off and stop complaining about everything , the same thing for EGS speaking about styles of play if someone is playing passive just try something different for killing them if u dont like it stfu and get the fuck out of the game simply as that , the reason for the game dying is for type of people like that just crying and crying over the entire game. (I know i cried a lot in the past ) but from now just try to be grateful to the admins that why the game just dying are trying once more to make the nwwc , ( btw vegi stop complaining in every forum of spanish team get good and lead ur BE country fucking tard)
I complain where I want you little bitch. I'll come to Malaga and I'll clap you and your siblings at the same time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 16, 2022, 04:29:22 pm
Spoiler
This community never changes… , first of all why do you care about who plays for a country or for other just play with ur country and try to win and get funny , in the case of maskman or firefly they are special cases just like r1bazz i mean like there is not portuguese nation for playing on it , its a fun tournament based on nations cuz for example on football there are some players that are playing for other countries which is not the country where they born so fuck off and stop complaining about everything , the same thing for EGS speaking about styles of play if someone is playing passive just try something different for killing them if u dont like it stfu and get the fuck out of the game simply as that , the reason for the game dying is for type of people like that just crying and crying over the entire game. (I know i cried a lot in the past ) but from now just try to be grateful to the admins that now that the game is just dying are trying once more to make the nwwc , ( btw vegi stop complaining in every forum of spanish team get good and lead ur BE country fucking tard)
[close]
If we wanted an opinion on how not to act, from someone who's only English vocubulary is the N word then we will ask for it.

Be gone child.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 16, 2022, 04:41:26 pm
Fairly sure there is enough players to form a Portugal nation for NWWC, straw made a team of just Portuguese players. It’s just that they’ve always played for team Spain so no one cares lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 16, 2022, 04:53:34 pm
Can we have a balkan team and let the italians tag along as well ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 04:57:37 pm
Muha has played for RUS before btw. Just under the name of Alex123 and under his key  8)
Back in 2017 as requested from Captain of RUS Team ( don't really remember who was back in then prob max1m captain black)
but a fact i did, i did it with my own Key thought

Back in 2018 Bulgaria went with RUS team together
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 16, 2022, 05:49:19 pm
Moving to Ukraine, cya in NWWC 2027 nerds
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: charle_Lebrun on February 16, 2022, 06:04:30 pm
This community never changes… , first of all why do you care about who plays for a country or for other just play with ur country and try to win and get funny , in the case of maskman or firefly they are special cases just like r1bazz i mean like there is not portuguese nation for playing on it , its a fun tournament based on nations cuz for example on football there are some players that are playing for other countries which is not the country where they born so fuck off and stop complaining about everything , the same thing for EGS speaking about styles of play if someone is playing passive just try something different for killing them if u dont like it stfu and get the fuck out of the game simply as that , the reason for the game dying is for type of people like that just crying and crying over the entire game. (I know i cried a lot in the past ) but from now just try to be grateful to the admins that now that the game is just dying are trying once more to make the nwwc , ( btw vegi stop complaining in every forum of spanish team get good and lead ur BE country fucking tard)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: David_Schrein on February 16, 2022, 06:27:25 pm
Moving to Ukraine, cya in NWWC 2027 nerds
just rename urself to nifu and marxeil will let u play
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: LEVIS on February 16, 2022, 06:48:28 pm
then i could play for france? if maskman can play for spain
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: LEVIS on February 16, 2022, 06:54:22 pm
My grandmother's family came to greece from turkey in the 1920s, can I apply for the turkish team ?
No, you can play for the Greece Paralympic team Stoiki
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 16, 2022, 06:59:52 pm
Imagine double posting on the NWWC thread
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 07:05:45 pm
*snip*
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 16, 2022, 07:06:23 pm
To clarify things

I have a Spanish residency card after 5 years of application for a ‘Golden’ visa, I managed to get this as my family moved there and have Spanish residence there. We recently got our TIE number (social security) and pay taxes there, I’ve also applied for a Spanish passport but a residency card is required first before access to full citizenship.

Ethnically I am Filipino but have Spanish blood too as we are a colony. I had honestly no intention of  playing in this NWWC, I have only signed up late on because I was asked to for a nation that actually needs active players, if I wanted easy Palmares id have joined the disheveled English team where they need players as well.
Fairly certain this is the same case essentially with crusher yet he can’t play for team England even tho he would like too. Call me crazy but I feel like there is a double standard here
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 07:10:54 pm
Muha can't join anyways because he doesn't actually have a passport in the UK
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 16, 2022, 07:12:18 pm
#AUTisGER
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 16, 2022, 07:13:07 pm
*snip*
how the fuck did you get in the chat
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 16, 2022, 07:15:10 pm
muha has his ways
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 16, 2022, 07:17:36 pm
*snip*
how the fuck did you get in the chat
I bet HiHatecrimer sent him the groupchat link
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Lonedoge. on February 16, 2022, 07:18:25 pm
very important news

team ireland is dead sorry guys
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 16, 2022, 07:20:19 pm
rip giorno
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: HiReaper on February 16, 2022, 07:20:57 pm
very important news

team ireland is dead sorry guys

giorno rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqaxdwobMc
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 16, 2022, 07:21:06 pm
very important news

team ireland is dead sorry guys


:(
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: LEVIS on February 16, 2022, 07:21:36 pm
very important news

team ireland is dead sorry guys
i knew it!!! dren was a double agent there to kill Team Ireland from the inside!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Lonedoge. on February 16, 2022, 07:26:07 pm
ik guys its heart breaking news but sadly we all suffer from a thing called hating nw enough to get a life

if you would like to save the great prestigious nwwc nation of ireland please download the following image and photoshop your details onto it and then apply for captain

Spoiler
(https://realgenuinedocuments.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/ireland-passport.jpeg)
[close]
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 16, 2022, 07:33:29 pm
giorno will be the one to save Ireland
bros different
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 16, 2022, 07:34:12 pm
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 16, 2022, 07:36:52 pm
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
No way you two even know how to make pizza! Denied

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 16, 2022, 07:42:37 pm
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
No way you two even know how to make pizza! Denied
At least they aren't corrupted like you marxeil






+ they stick to the rules  8)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 16, 2022, 07:51:09 pm
Whatever you say RUS_Alex123
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tardet on February 16, 2022, 07:55:58 pm
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
No way you two even know how to make pizza! Denied
That's pure slender right there  >:(
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Lonedoge. on February 16, 2022, 08:21:51 pm
ik guys its heart breaking news but sadly we all suffer from a thing called hating nw enough to get a life

if you would like to save the great prestigious nwwc nation of ireland please download the following image and photoshop your details onto it and then apply for captain

Spoiler
(https://realgenuinedocuments.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/ireland-passport.jpeg)
[close]
nevermind in a shock move we actually got 6 very irish people to commit to something

good luck trying to organise something with us tho

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-lTe3mjTs
[close]
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Golden. on February 16, 2022, 08:22:06 pm
another boring NWWC hosted by the biggest cheater in all NWWC history

(https://c.tenor.com/8jlC25Qb-jEAAAAM/spiderman-funny.gif)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 16, 2022, 08:23:26 pm
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
No way you two even know how to make pizza! Denied
That's pure slender right there  >:(
How dare you assume MarxeiL's figure. He's a big boy.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tardet on February 16, 2022, 08:33:53 pm
Spoiler
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
No way you two even know how to make pizza! Denied
That's pure slender right there  >:(
How dare you assume MarxeiL's figure. He's a big boy.
[close]
Okay ngl, good one!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 16, 2022, 08:37:57 pm
Tardet and I will play for team Italy, don't worry lads
No way you two even know how to make pizza! Denied

I know how, and I even know how to make fresh pastas and raviolis !!  >:(
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Steinmann on February 16, 2022, 08:53:06 pm
GER_Steinmann
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: FENTON on February 16, 2022, 08:56:28 pm
To clarify things

I have a Spanish residency card after 5 years of application for a ‘Golden’ visa, I managed to get this as my family moved there and have Spanish residence there. We recently got our TIE number (social security) and pay taxes there, I’ve also applied for a Spanish passport but a residency card is required first before access to full citizenship.

Ethnically I am Filipino but have Spanish blood too as we are a colony. I had honestly no intention of  playing in this NWWC, I have only signed up late on because I was asked to for a nation that actually needs active players, if I wanted easy Palmares id have joined the disheveled English team where they need players as well.

Refuse to believe your parents pay taxes you dodging Tory fuck

#EatTheRich
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Phailur on February 16, 2022, 10:37:51 pm
So maskman is allowed to play for Spain but Nock cant play for his occupied home country Corsica (or even be allowed to play for Italy as compensation). Ive also asked numerous times to be able to play for Taiwan but Marxeil refuses to recognise it as a sovereign nation... Also Ciomcio is too shy to ask but he thought this was a CS:GO tournament so if you could change it into that he would be grateful. OH yeah, and just because of my skin colour and massive dick doesnt mean im not Taiwanese you racist, dont judge a book by its cover. Unless its cover is shit in which case you should judge the cover maker probably. I mean, i wouldnt presume on it but you know, their probably shit at their job if you think their cover is shit then again maybe thats just your singular opinion which, after all, is fine but lets say, right, for the sake of argument that your the only person with this opinion? Does that make the cover maker a shit cover maker or if everyone else thinks the opposite, a good cover maker? Tough question. What is this reality? How can one be so certain that all of ones perceptions are true to an objective reality? In such a case one would perhaps concede to Solipsism. In which case - that cover maker should get the fuck out of that business, fucking moron. On the other hand, if it is perhaps ridiculous to ascertain that the only true knowledge can be that of ones minds perception. How can one truly and confidently ascertain that itself is the case? Perhaps there is nothing to ascertain as one would have to ascertain why one ascertained ones assertions in the first place. Leaving us now at Skepticism. Leaving us now at skepticism of the fact that we can be skeptic of the skepticism which we have previously asserted. Sorry, my mom just arrived with the medication i will continue later

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 16, 2022, 10:50:51 pm
So maskman is allowed to play for Spain but Nock cant play for his occupied home country Corsica (or even be allowed to play for Italy as compensation). Ive also asked numerous times to be able to play for Taiwan but Marxeil refuses to recognise it as a sovereign nation... Also Ciomcio is too shy to ask but he thought this was a CS:GO tournament so if you could change it into that he would be grateful. OH yeah, and just because of my skin colour and massive dick doesnt mean im not Taiwanese you racist, dont judge a book by its cover. Unless its cover is shit in which case you should judge the cover maker probably. I mean, i wouldnt presume on it but you know, their probably shit at their job if you think their cover is shit then again maybe thats just your singular opinion which, after all, is fine but lets say, right, for the sake of argument that your the only person with this opinion? Does that make the cover maker a shit cover maker or if everyone else thinks the opposite, a good cover maker? Tough question. What is this reality? How can one be so certain that all of ones perceptions are true to an objective reality? In such a case one would perhaps concede to Solipsism. In which case - that cover maker should get the fuck out of that business, fucking moron. On the other hand, if it is perhaps ridiculous to ascertain that the only true knowledge can be that of ones minds perception. How can one truly and confidently ascertain that itself is the case? Perhaps there is nothing to ascertain as one would have to ascertain why one ascertained ones assertions in the first place. Leaving us now at Skepticism. Leaving us now at skepticism of the fact that we can be skeptic of the skepticism which we have previously asserted. Sorry, my mom just arrived with the medication i will continue later


this might be your best post ever
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 16, 2022, 11:49:11 pm
So maskman is allowed to play for Spain but Nock cant play for his occupied home country Corsica (or even be allowed to play for Italy as compensation). Ive also asked numerous times to be able to play for Taiwan but Marxeil refuses to recognise it as a sovereign nation... Also Ciomcio is too shy to ask but he thought this was a CS:GO tournament so if you could change it into that he would be grateful. OH yeah, and just because of my skin colour and massive dick doesnt mean im not Taiwanese you racist, dont judge a book by its cover. Unless its cover is shit in which case you should judge the cover maker probably. I mean, i wouldnt presume on it but you know, their probably shit at their job if you think their cover is shit then again maybe thats just your singular opinion which, after all, is fine but lets say, right, for the sake of argument that your the only person with this opinion? Does that make the cover maker a shit cover maker or if everyone else thinks the opposite, a good cover maker? Tough question. What is this reality? How can one be so certain that all of ones perceptions are true to an objective reality? In such a case one would perhaps concede to Solipsism. In which case - that cover maker should get the fuck out of that business, fucking moron. On the other hand, if it is perhaps ridiculous to ascertain that the only true knowledge can be that of ones minds perception. How can one truly and confidently ascertain that itself is the case? Perhaps there is nothing to ascertain as one would have to ascertain why one ascertained ones assertions in the first place. Leaving us now at Skepticism. Leaving us now at skepticism of the fact that we can be skeptic of the skepticism which we have previously asserted. Sorry, my mom just arrived with the medication i will continue later


this might be your best post ever
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Ciombwoy on February 16, 2022, 11:57:24 pm
So maskman is allowed to play for Spain but Nock cant play for his occupied home country Corsica (or even be allowed to play for Italy as compensation). Ive also asked numerous times to be able to play for Taiwan but Marxeil refuses to recognise it as a sovereign nation... Also Ciomcio is too shy to ask but he thought this was a CS:GO tournament so if you could change it into that he would be grateful. OH yeah, and just because of my skin colour and massive dick doesnt mean im not Taiwanese you racist, dont judge a book by its cover. Unless its cover is shit in which case you should judge the cover maker probably. I mean, i wouldnt presume on it but you know, their probably shit at their job if you think their cover is shit then again maybe thats just your singular opinion which, after all, is fine but lets say, right, for the sake of argument that your the only person with this opinion? Does that make the cover maker a shit cover maker or if everyone else thinks the opposite, a good cover maker? Tough question. What is this reality? How can one be so certain that all of ones perceptions are true to an objective reality? In such a case one would perhaps concede to Solipsism. In which case - that cover maker should get the fuck out of that business, fucking moron. On the other hand, if it is perhaps ridiculous to ascertain that the only true knowledge can be that of ones minds perception. How can one truly and confidently ascertain that itself is the case? Perhaps there is nothing to ascertain as one would have to ascertain why one ascertained ones assertions in the first place. Leaving us now at Skepticism. Leaving us now at skepticism of the fact that we can be skeptic of the skepticism which we have previously asserted. Sorry, my mom just arrived with the medication i will continue later

Out of all the languages he could’ve spoken, this guy chose to speak straight facts
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 01:12:19 am
Whatever you say RUS_Alex123
That was Back in 2017.
I played like 9 rounds of 1 Official Match
since people knew what my playstyle looks like it wasn't hard to caught off




Oh not to mention you were also the one who allowed me to have half of my Bulgarian NWWC Team filled up with 3-4 frenchies and didn't say shit back then  ;)
Stop abusing NWWC rules.
Step down.
Period
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 17, 2022, 01:37:33 am
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on February 17, 2022, 09:14:28 am
Abusers talk about abuse smh
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 17, 2022, 10:43:37 am
Looking for people to join the FRANCE team, I provide the passports  :-*
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 11:59:59 am
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)
wasn't active nor playing at that time  ;D







Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Chainsor on February 17, 2022, 12:04:45 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)
wasn't active nor playing at that time  ;D







Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*


would sound like a deal to me actually
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 12:06:19 pm
And this is why I was always more strict with switches in recent years aside from those that were obvious b.s.  ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 12:07:32 pm
And this is why I was always more strict with switches in recent years aside from those that were obvious b.s.  ::)
remove MarxeiL from NWWC leadership.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 12:08:39 pm
I don't care who hosts this or if it's a shit show or not.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: David_Schrein on February 17, 2022, 12:19:49 pm
And this is why I was always more strict with switches in recent years aside from those that were obvious b.s.  ::)
like your own?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 12:25:11 pm
And this is why I was always more strict with switches in recent years aside from those that were obvious b.s.  ::)
like your own?
My own? I've only played for UK/GB/England and Scotland. And as you are well aware I was born in Scotland and lived there 10 years which I can rather easily prove and it's quite common knowledge nowadays.

I don't think I need to take a moral lesson from the guy who pretended to have cancer for attention however.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 17, 2022, 12:26:07 pm
How can someone talk that much grütze Muha holy shit

Nation Swapping should just be forbidden as i thought it always was
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 12:29:22 pm

Nation Swapping should just be forbidden as i thought it always was
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 12:29:28 pm
How can someone talk that much grütze Muha holy shit

Nation Swapping should just be forbidden as i thought it always was
I've agreed for quite some time it's easier that way, but things were mixed up a bit when multiple teams per nation were allowed and in some cases there have been completely stupid decisions to let people play for certain nations. E.g. back in 2014 when Thomas (English player) cpt'd Austria for quite literally no reason.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 12:54:38 pm
Nation Swapping should just be forbidden as i thought it always was
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Dusbled on February 17, 2022, 01:27:30 pm
GER_Steinmann

approved!

He actually lives under my staircase for round about 6 years 32 days 5 hours and 32 minutes :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 01:28:46 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kong on February 17, 2022, 01:38:36 pm
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/69/6b/ae696b2a5cdfaef7cca93b38def7cb65.jpg)

fse thread rn ,

on a side note doest it really matter anymore? might aswell enjoy whats left of the game, not like any of us will gain anyhting from the tournament

muha gaslighting people just to fw maskman is kina funny
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 17, 2022, 01:40:33 pm
Looks like Spain is the new Ukraine
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Coco. on February 17, 2022, 01:40:54 pm
Nation Swapping should just be forbidden as i thought it always was
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on February 17, 2022, 01:45:03 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 01:51:49 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 01:54:31 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful
how come you never learned jokes & sarcasm meanings i'd ask myself hundred of times
stupid english guys would cry off to local judge if gets insulted in public as a joke

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 17, 2022, 02:02:13 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 02:03:44 pm
Maskman signed up for England 2021. BAN HIM!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 17, 2022, 02:05:21 pm
Luv sum cheeky fse beef
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 02:15:35 pm
Luv sum cheeky fse beef
sponsored by muha
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: David_Schrein on February 17, 2022, 02:17:01 pm
And this is why I was always more strict with switches in recent years aside from those that were obvious b.s.  ::)
like your own?
My own? I've only played for UK/GB/England and Scotland. And as you are well aware I was born in Scotland and lived there 10 years which I can rather easily prove and it's quite common knowledge nowadays.

I don't think I need to take a moral lesson from the guy who pretended to have cancer for attention however.
if thats true why sign up as Capri sun and make a whole fake team.

Its not a moral lesson, but just pointing out about someone who has cheated in several tournaments over several years
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 02:22:03 pm
And this is why I was always more strict with switches in recent years aside from those that were obvious b.s.  ::)
like your own?
My own? I've only played for UK/GB/England and Scotland. And as you are well aware I was born in Scotland and lived there 10 years which I can rather easily prove and it's quite common knowledge nowadays.

I don't think I need to take a moral lesson from the guy who pretended to have cancer for attention however.
if thats true why sign up as Capri sun and make a whole fake team.

Its not a moral lesson, but just pointing out about someone who has cheated in several tournaments over several years
As have you. I made a fake team for the lols since I wasn't host and quite simply because I felt I could get away with it, I didn't but that was 5 years ago now. But I am still and always have been eligible for both Scotland and England which is why after Capri Sun was exposed I was allowed to continue playing for Scotland with my own name.

And either-way cheating has nothing to do with the point that over the last few years in NWWC I've allowed very few switches, but if you want to try and keep shooting shots maybe shoot it at someone actually playing in NWWC this year lmao.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 17, 2022, 02:31:37 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful

That's actually quality chat
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 02:32:32 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful

That's actually quality chat
I agree to Gi terms
i also offer no more toxicity in chat
only if marxeil contributes
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 17, 2022, 02:34:40 pm
Marxeil should just change the name to M-NWWC and then no one would complain
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 02:36:32 pm
Just to shut you up anyway Movement -

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/788d3188cb840e0a7f6cb8016e2bfae1.png)
[close]

I'm 99% sure you already know this however but were just trying to be edgy as you've always tried to be. Last I checked Aberdeen was still in the North-East of Scotland.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 02:38:24 pm
Connard
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 17, 2022, 02:38:55 pm
Just to shut you up anyway Movement -

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/788d3188cb840e0a7f6cb8016e2bfae1.png)
[close]

I'm 99% sure you already know this however but were just trying to be edgy as you've always tried to be. Last I checked Aberdeen was still in the North-East of Scotland.

nice photoshop, cheater
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 02:41:31 pm
Yes, my name is very accurate Vegitable.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on February 17, 2022, 02:47:11 pm
Welcome to team Scotland Herishey
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 17, 2022, 02:50:18 pm
Welcome to team Scotland Herishey
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: David_Schrein on February 17, 2022, 02:50:33 pm
I know that you are from Scotland, but thats not what my point is.

You and Marxeil both have cheated in past nwwcs and every nation swap is a joke. I know that if ENG actually had a good roster or had a proper chance you would have played. Thats why the last time 5 years ago when you didnt get elected as captain, you decided to try and finesse you and your friends to play in a meme SCO team.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 02:51:44 pm
Yes, my name is very accurate Vegitable.
Can't resist
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 02:54:11 pm
Just to shut you up anyway Movement -

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/788d3188cb840e0a7f6cb8016e2bfae1.png)
[close]

I'm 99% sure you already know this however but were just trying to be edgy as you've always tried to be. Last I checked Aberdeen was still in the North-East of Scotland.
KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 02:56:59 pm
I know that you are from Scotland, but thats not what my point is.

You and Marxeil both have cheated in past nwwcs and every nation swap is a joke. I know that if ENG actually had a good roster or had a proper chance you would have played. Thats why the last time 5 years ago when you didnt get elected as captain, you decided to try and finesse you and your friends to play in a meme SCO team.
5 years ago I did not run as cpt (Jammo did), I refused to play because Goob was cpt and I knew it'd be a waste of time. From the feedback everyone gave me I was right.

I'm not organising this NWWC, and I wouldn't have allowed most of these swaps to happen. Nation swaps over the past 2 years when I have been hosting have been managed much more clearly. Yes I made that meme Scotland 5 years ago, I've already admitted that in the past and now well done! As for this year as I've been very open about if all my friends wanted to play still yes it'd have most likely convinced me to continue playing e.g. if Python, Hertz, Shadey, Bagins etc were all still playing then sure I'd have most likely been convinced by them. But I've already stopped playing regimental since 13e died and announced that Invictus will be disbanding for some time after EGS and that I do not intend to join another team. I simply do not wish to play this game right now very much or have any major commitments to it. Funnily enough a tournament I've already won 5 times doesn't interest me a great deal anymore to keep me playing without all the bois.

EDIT: Also you said NWWC's, I've only ever 'cheated' in that 2017 one (I think it was 2017 could have been 16) where I played for a team where I'm eligible but yes I did knowingly try to slip quite a few random players in that were not even English in some cases let alone Scottish.

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 03:01:04 pm
Advise Marxeil better you scum!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 03:01:58 pm
He didn't listen.  >:(  :'(
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 03:05:25 pm
He didn't listen.  >:(  :'(
I'll give Muha the task to annoy him 24/7 and he'll break eventually
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 03:07:38 pm
He didn't listen.  >:(  :'(
I'll give Muha the task to annoy him 24/7 and he'll break eventually
As I've said I will release a list of active autoblock users from UA-NNWC & RUS-NWWC Teams

(will also include IP's for more blatant proof, if ever needed)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on February 17, 2022, 03:08:39 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful

I think we should let Muha into team ENG this year considering he’s impersonated being Python and sent naked pictures to underaged people on my TS
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 17, 2022, 03:09:33 pm
I know that you are from Scotland, but thats not what my point is.

You and Marxeil both have cheated in past nwwcs and every nation swap is a joke. I know that if ENG actually had a good roster or had a proper chance you would have played. Thats why the last time 5 years ago when you didnt get elected as captain, you decided to try and finesse you and your friends to play in a meme SCO team.
5 years ago I did not run as cpt (Jammo did), I refused to play because Goob was cpt and I knew it'd be a waste of time. From the feedback everyone gave me I was right.

I'm not organising this NWWC, and I wouldn't have allowed most of these swaps to happen. Nation swaps over the past 2 years when I have been hosting have been managed much more clearly. Yes I made that meme Scotland 5 years ago, I've already admitted that in the past and now well done! As for this year as I've been very open about if all my friends wanted to play still yes it'd have most likely convinced me to continue playing e.g. if Python, Hertz, Shadey, Bagins etc were all still playing then sure I'd have most likely been convinced by them. But I've already stopped playing regimental since 13e died and announced that Invictus will be disbanding for some time after EGS and that I do not intend to join another team. I simply do not wish to play this game right now very much or have any major commitments to it. Funnily enough a tournament I've already won 5 times doesn't interest me a great deal anymore to keep me playing without all the bois.

why u even argue with mov, just ignore him and let him have his moment

also ure joining eyefuckers for egs s4, i dont make the rules, dren and tardet both hold me at gunpoint and forced me this write this
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 17, 2022, 03:11:26 pm
Can I play for spain as well?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 03:11:52 pm
I know that you are from Scotland, but thats not what my point is.

You and Marxeil both have cheated in past nwwcs and every nation swap is a joke. I know that if ENG actually had a good roster or had a proper chance you would have played. Thats why the last time 5 years ago when you didnt get elected as captain, you decided to try and finesse you and your friends to play in a meme SCO team.
5 years ago I did not run as cpt (Jammo did), I refused to play because Goob was cpt and I knew it'd be a waste of time. From the feedback everyone gave me I was right.

I'm not organising this NWWC, and I wouldn't have allowed most of these swaps to happen. Nation swaps over the past 2 years when I have been hosting have been managed much more clearly. Yes I made that meme Scotland 5 years ago, I've already admitted that in the past and now well done! As for this year as I've been very open about if all my friends wanted to play still yes it'd have most likely convinced me to continue playing e.g. if Python, Hertz, Shadey, Bagins etc were all still playing then sure I'd have most likely been convinced by them. But I've already stopped playing regimental since 13e died and announced that Invictus will be disbanding for some time after EGS and that I do not intend to join another team. I simply do not wish to play this game right now very much or have any major commitments to it. Funnily enough a tournament I've already won 5 times doesn't interest me a great deal anymore to keep me playing without all the bois.

why u even argue with mov, just ignore him and let him have his moment

also ure joining eyefuckers for egs s4, i dont make the rules, dren and tardet both hold me at gunpoint and forced me this write this
egs s4 nice joke!!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 17, 2022, 03:17:08 pm
I know that you are from Scotland, but thats not what my point is.

You and Marxeil both have cheated in past nwwcs and every nation swap is a joke. I know that if ENG actually had a good roster or had a proper chance you would have played. Thats why the last time 5 years ago when you didnt get elected as captain, you decided to try and finesse you and your friends to play in a meme SCO team.
5 years ago I did not run as cpt (Jammo did), I refused to play because Goob was cpt and I knew it'd be a waste of time. From the feedback everyone gave me I was right.

I'm not organising this NWWC, and I wouldn't have allowed most of these swaps to happen. Nation swaps over the past 2 years when I have been hosting have been managed much more clearly. Yes I made that meme Scotland 5 years ago, I've already admitted that in the past and now well done! As for this year as I've been very open about if all my friends wanted to play still yes it'd have most likely convinced me to continue playing e.g. if Python, Hertz, Shadey, Bagins etc were all still playing then sure I'd have most likely been convinced by them. But I've already stopped playing regimental since 13e died and announced that Invictus will be disbanding for some time after EGS and that I do not intend to join another team. I simply do not wish to play this game right now very much or have any major commitments to it. Funnily enough a tournament I've already won 5 times doesn't interest me a great deal anymore to keep me playing without all the bois.

why u even argue with mov, just ignore him and let him have his moment

also ure joining eyefuckers for egs s4, i dont make the rules, dren and tardet both hold me at gunpoint and forced me this write this
egs s4 nice joke!!

thanks !!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on February 17, 2022, 03:58:15 pm
Muha has played for RUS before btw. Just under the name of Alex123 and under his key  8)
Hertz always coming in with that shit everybody knows...

Its ok Hertzy, you contributed  ::)

Always here to help Chriseh ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Rikkert on February 17, 2022, 04:14:54 pm
Just to shut you up anyway Movement -

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/788d3188cb840e0a7f6cb8016e2bfae1.png)
[close]

I'm 99% sure you already know this however but were just trying to be edgy as you've always tried to be. Last I checked Aberdeen was still in the North-East of Scotland.
This is such a twisted lie, EVERYONE on poosy ts knows your real name is Abdul. ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 04:17:52 pm
U also played as Alex in 2020 ::)

Oh and not to mention if MarxeiL doesn't contribute to people's requests of removing maskman from Spain Team
I will release the full list of active autoblockers both from UA-NWWC & Russia-NWWC
Make things clear first  :-*

Maybe you can offer to stop noncing children in exchange for maskman getting banned, might be more successful

I think we should let Muha into team ENG this year considering he’s impersonated being Python and sent naked pictures to underaged people on my TS
i remember using his faces in NW for casual events but never this kind of shit i ever heard before :DDDD
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RedFeu on February 17, 2022, 06:08:15 pm
Connard
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 17, 2022, 06:24:11 pm
Just to shut you up anyway Movement -

Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/788d3188cb840e0a7f6cb8016e2bfae1.png)
[close]

I'm 99% sure you already know this however but were just trying to be edgy as you've always tried to be. Last I checked Aberdeen was still in the North-East of Scotland.
This is such a twisted lie, EVERYONE on poosy ts knows your real name is Abdul. ???
I'll be whoever your sister wants me to be daddy.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 17, 2022, 06:37:45 pm
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kubus on February 17, 2022, 08:16:05 pm
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 17, 2022, 11:52:03 pm
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.

As you say,
will also include IP's to make it even more blatant  :-\
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 17, 2022, 11:52:11 pm
Connard
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarjioviçR on February 18, 2022, 12:15:00 am
please dont cheat ><
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kore on February 18, 2022, 05:52:04 am
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.

As you say,
will also include IP's to make it even more blatant  :-\

Someone screenshot it later for me thx
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 05:54:16 am
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.
cant wait anti-cheat on nwwc servers  ::) ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Knightmare on February 18, 2022, 06:59:16 am
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.
(https://i.imgur.com/jfZ820i.jpg)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tigere on February 18, 2022, 09:53:18 am
Am i allowed to play with italy with mio fratello bidbig?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 11:03:31 am
Muha, go on with a list of autoblockers, can't wait. Also from now stop shitposting on this thread.

As you say,
will also include IP's to make it even more blatant  :-\

Someone screenshot it later for me thx
I can PM you later on see more detailed how 75% of Ukraine team is using outdated autoblock made for vesion v1.172
poor guys wish i could summon its owner called MrCamo
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 18, 2022, 11:25:21 am
Selling autoblock 1.74 version NWWC Organizer edition
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 11:27:31 am
Selling autoblock 1.74 version NWWC Organizer edition
ye Shogun prob knows a lot about it

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 18, 2022, 11:42:56 am
When are you posting full list of autoblockers Muha, we need some time to prepare watchlist
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 11:47:48 am
When are you posting full list of autoblockers Muha, we need some time to prepare watchlist
I will post it somewhere else since FSE does not allow to include IP / Personal Information => would get me banned

List is already created since 2017 (just updated)

Will Post it on Google Docs Sunday 20th of February
Will Post it on TKC Website(Team-Kill & Cheats Community)

+ the watchlist is a true meme, you just had yoda there for 1+ years? still not caught? oh wait i forgot its just a name there to fill up and not make it look like a  ''blank watchlists''
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Chainsor on February 18, 2022, 11:56:26 am
Will Post it on TKC Website(Team-Kill & Cheats Community)

thats a thing?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 11:57:58 am
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 11:59:02 am
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
yeah we should ask our french baguette seller Maximou he prob found it first of all us!  ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:03:40 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 12:05:06 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)

It is Available for ''Authorised personnel & Registered users that have more than 2+ years registered accounts''

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 18, 2022, 12:06:26 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
yeah we should ask our french baguette seller Maximou he prob found it first of all us!  ;D

how to install dll
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 12:07:58 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)
Yeah, you'd know wouldn't. you. :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:08:14 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)

It is Available for ''Authorised personnel & Registered users that have more than 2+ years registered accounts''
lemoncheat is not available , TKC is available but there is no link to 1.172 or earlier 1.158
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on February 18, 2022, 12:15:03 pm
good reason to put you on a watchlist
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 18, 2022, 12:18:30 pm
Why would you use an auto block for a module that has 2 directions...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tomppa on February 18, 2022, 12:18:43 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.

How have you known it?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:20:42 pm
Why would you use an auto block for a module that has 2 directions...
ask the cis players about it  :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 12:21:59 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.

How have you known it?
It's pretty common knowledge considering how prominent autoblock has been in this community.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 18, 2022, 12:22:28 pm
I want autoblock
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:23:32 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.

How have you known it?
It's pretty common knowledge considering how prominent autoblock has been in this community.
herishey is trying to hide the fact that he did not use autoblock   ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 12:24:41 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tomppa on February 18, 2022, 12:25:30 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.

How have you known it?
It's pretty common knowledge considering how prominent autoblock has been in this community.
I smell...excuses...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 18, 2022, 12:25:56 pm
Just get a good monitor
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tomppa on February 18, 2022, 12:26:58 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.

Speaking of randomized tourneys, when you hosting the next one. They were quite pog so far.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Termito on February 18, 2022, 12:27:29 pm
Just get a good monitor
you only need hands.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 12:29:41 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.

Speaking of randomized tourneys, when you hosting the next one. They were quite pog so far.
I haven't hosted any of the recent ones? Also I won't be hosting anything anymore.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 18, 2022, 12:31:34 pm
Now that herishey won't be playing people will not know which team to stack
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 12:36:38 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)

It is Available for ''Authorised personnel & Registered users that have more than 2+ years registered accounts''
lemoncheat is not available , TKC is available but there is no link to 1.172 or earlier 1.158
LemonCheat is available if you bought it before, I have a LemonCheat account that i used to play with on TG_Arena with the aimbot, if you are interested I'll sell it for half the price of the cheat (10 euros)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:37:33 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.
First of all it was a joke, and secondly I had no chance to get away because you constantly clamped us on the right flank)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 12:38:56 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.
First of all it was a joke, and secondly I had no chance to get away because you constantly clamped us on the right flank)
Yeah, of course we did because we knew you had it on. So we focused you.  8)  ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:39:19 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)

It is Available for ''Authorised personnel & Registered users that have more than 2+ years registered accounts''
lemoncheat is not available , TKC is available but there is no link to 1.172 or earlier 1.158
LemonCheat is available if you bought it before, I have a LemonCheat account that i used to play with on TG_Arena with the aimbot, if you are people interested I'll sell it for half the price of the cheat (10 euros)
how can I contact you?  ::)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:41:20 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.
First of all it was a joke, and secondly I had no chance to get away because you constantly clamped us on the right flank)
Yeah, of course we did because we knew you had it on. So we focused you.  8)  ::)
I don't think I've ever denied having an autoblock, but that was before I started playing european tournaments)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 12:42:34 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.
First of all it was a joke, and secondly I had no chance to get away because you constantly clamped us on the right flank)
Yeah, of course we did because we knew you had it on. So we focused you.  8)  ::)
I don't think I've ever denied having an autoblock, but that was before I started playing european tournaments)
You still have it 100%, for the number of duels we did i noticed it after the first few seconds but I don't even understand why deny it it's not like anyone is going to ban you for it no one cares
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:45:55 pm
Ironic coming from a guy that in several matches me and MarxeiL managed to kill you because your block was stuck down due to your outdated autoblock version so you practically threw matches in the randomised tournament a couple years back.

I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen me fuck up blocks enough anyway.
First of all it was a joke, and secondly I had no chance to get away because you constantly clamped us on the right flank)
Yeah, of course we did because we knew you had it on. So we focused you.  8)  ::)
I don't think I've ever denied having an autoblock, but that was before I started playing european tournaments)
You still have it 100%, for the number of duels we did i noticed it after the first few seconds but I don't even understand why deny it it's not like anyone is going to ban you for it no one cares
You're just jealous that out of our four duels, I won three)  :P ;)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 18, 2022, 12:52:02 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 12:54:49 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Actual proof? Any proof I've ever been shown on anyone is circumstantial at best.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 12:58:12 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Actual proof? Any proof I've ever been shown on anyone is circumstantial at best.
This is the point that you can never provide real evidence that there is an autoblock or not, if you have the money, do LAN tournaments and all problems will be solved)   8)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 01:01:44 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 01:04:55 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Actual proof? Any proof I've ever been shown on anyone is circumstantial at best.
This is the point that you can never provide real evidence that there is an autoblock or not, if you have the money, do LAN tournaments and all problems will be solved)   8)
It's possible, but no one will make the effort to check, if someone has autoblock you can ask them to do a screenshare/record and set their blocks to "manual" for the rest of the match 99% of autoblocks will no longer work
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 01:06:10 pm
Yes, that is possible but connecting to hundreds of players to do that to then have to disconnect where they can just turn it back on is physically not viable. As I said no one has any actual concrete proof so both yours and John Prices posts are quite simply invalid.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:08:19 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Actual proof? Any proof I've ever been shown on anyone is circumstantial at best.
This is the point that you can never provide real evidence that there is an autoblock or not, if you have the money, do LAN tournaments and all problems will be solved)   8)
It's possible, but no one will make the effort to check, if someone has autoblock you can ask them to do a screenshare/record and set their blocks to "manual" for the rest of the match 99% of autoblocks will no longer work
itc you can simply put the automatic back on during the round and you wont have a problem at all)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 01:10:27 pm
Yes, that is possible but connecting to hundreds of players to do that to then have to disconnect where they can just turn it back on is physically not viable. As I said no one has any actual concrete proof so both yours and John Prices posts are quite simply invalid.
Look at it this way, we all know more or less who are the people suspected of autoblocking under facts that are effectively circumstantial, we can ask a verification to these players with a record without the permission to cut part of the record or even better a screenshare where they will not have the right to disconnect, in any case you can see it if it disconnects with the logs, it's difficult but it's the only way except to code a mandatory anticheat that detects the external clients that injects .ddl on mb_warband.exe that we should all download before participating in the tournament.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 18, 2022, 01:11:23 pm
the autoblock conversation zzzzz
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 01:11:29 pm
For years and years we have known about people autoblocking, with actual proof on potential top 10 players. Did anything happen? No.

Nobody gave a shit years ago and nobody gives a shit now.
Actual proof? Any proof I've ever been shown on anyone is circumstantial at best.
This is the point that you can never provide real evidence that there is an autoblock or not, if you have the money, do LAN tournaments and all problems will be solved)   8)
It's possible, but no one will make the effort to check, if someone has autoblock you can ask them to do a screenshare/record and set their blocks to "manual" for the rest of the match 99% of autoblocks will no longer work
itc you can simply put the automatic back on during the round and you wont have a problem at all)
Well no, otherwise it will show up on the screenshare/record and the admin will know you are cheating  ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:12:05 pm
Yes, that is possible but connecting to hundreds of players to do that to then have to disconnect where they can just turn it back on is physically not viable. As I said no one has any actual concrete proof so both yours and John Prices posts are quite simply invalid.
ty cpt obvious  8) 8)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Steinmann on February 18, 2022, 01:15:29 pm
I thank muha for teaching me how to zoooooom
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 01:20:26 pm
No one is going to take the time to sit there and watch 10's of players or watch back footage from 10's of players each tournament lmao. That still only works for those you suspect too and there are many others that probably are getting away with it.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 01:22:13 pm
No one is going to take the time to sit there and watch 10's of players or watch back footage from 10's of players each tournament lmao. That still only works for those you suspect too and there are many others that probably are getting away with it.
You don't really need to do that you can do it like the yellow muskets and just do it randomly from time to time but yeah, there's really no point because most autoblockers are really bad and cause no problems lol.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:23:13 pm
No one is going to take the time to sit there and watch 10's of players or watch back footage from 10's of players each tournament lmao. That still only works for those you suspect too and there are many others that probably are getting away with it.
I personally do not care who plays, in any case he will not play for the whole team
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 18, 2022, 01:23:19 pm
guys dont worry, herishey doesnt auto he's shit
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Rikkert on February 18, 2022, 01:24:58 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 18, 2022, 01:26:20 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
where are you going with this?!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:26:59 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
You shouldn't be here at all, go away
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on February 18, 2022, 01:27:19 pm
guys dont worry, herishey doesnt auto he's shit
les ogre
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 18, 2022, 01:28:47 pm
Its not that difficult. All you would have to do is just have people run a logging tool on their machine which will log when the M&B Config files are edited and if anything is being injected/touched by something outside of the game engine itself. You can then say unless you run this in the background your results aren't valid. Its a conversation I have had dozens of times.

Its something we had to do in COD4 PROMOD matches etc. and was about as effective as you needed. Doubt many people here would know but its only very recently where ESL stopped using this method for Counter-Strike. Now they have a piece of software that essentially works as an all-in-one tool for Anti-Cheat, VPN etc. but does still have more or less the same characteristics.

You don't really need to do that you can do it like the yellow muskets and just do it randomly from time to time but yeah, there's really no point because most autoblockers are really bad and cause no problems lol.
Well thats the thing people eventually just stop using it when they realise they would be better without it lol

We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
You shouldn't be here at all, go away
He has more right than you or your 3 fucktard friends do, be gone child of autism.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 18, 2022, 01:30:29 pm
Let's be honest, tournament admins never gave a shit about cheating or abusing the rules in any way, worse that has happened was a 1x or 2x ban from the current tournament(+next tourney)



and then they'll ban someone for multiple tournaments for trolling ONE match
AND ban somebody for using meme musket skins XDD


idk why we having this discussion now anyways, it'll just end up adding 20+ pages to this thread and nothing will come out of it

if we are planning on having dramas, can we at least get on bannerlords level thanks


+ ratio chriseh nobody gives a shit about ur call of duty thing u weirdo !!!!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:32:01 pm
Its not that difficult. All you would have to do is just have people run a logging tool on their machine which will log when the M&B Config files are edited and if anything is being injected/touched by something outside of the game engine itself. You can then say unless you run this in the background your results aren't valid. Its a conversation I have had dozens of times.

Its something we had to do in COD4 PROMOD matches etc. and was about as effective as you needed. Doubt many people here would know but its only very recently where ESL stopped using this method for Counter-Strike. Now they have a piece of software that essentially works as an all-in-one tool for Anti-Cheat, VPN etc. but does still have more or less the same characteristics.

You don't really need to do that you can do it like the yellow muskets and just do it randomly from time to time but yeah, there's really no point because most autoblockers are really bad and cause no problems lol.
Well thats the thing people eventually just stop using it when they realise they would be better without it lol

We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
You shouldn't be here at all, go away
He has more right than you or your 3 fucktard friends do, be gone child of autism.
Price you've always been a clown for me I think you will remain one  ::) :P
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Chainsor on February 18, 2022, 01:33:42 pm
and then they'll ban someone for multiple tournaments for trolling ONE match
AND ban somebody for using meme musket skins XDD

idk what you're reffering to ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 18, 2022, 01:35:35 pm
and then they'll ban someone for multiple tournaments for trolling ONE match
AND ban somebody for using meme musket skins XDD

idk what you're reffering to ???

oh nothing, it must have been a fever dream
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 18, 2022, 01:36:07 pm
Price you've always been a clown for me I think you will remain one  ::) :P
Thats not what you said when you begged me to let you into 27th because nobody else would take you.

Caught in 4k
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: PadawaN on February 18, 2022, 01:37:01 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 18, 2022, 01:37:37 pm
and then they'll ban someone for multiple tournaments for trolling ONE match
AND ban somebody for using meme musket skins XDD

idk what you're reffering to ???

oh nothing, it must have been a fever dream
You forgot to mention banning someone for uploading a video of someone else trolling
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:43:14 pm
Price you've always been a clown for me I think you will remain one  ::) :P
Thats not what you said when you begged me to let you into 27th because nobody else would take you.

Caught in 4k
believe me we could talk about it but I'm on a schedule to eat now, have a good day  :) ;)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 18, 2022, 01:47:08 pm
Price you've always been a clown for me I think you will remain one  ::) :P
Thats not what you said when you begged me to let you into 27th because nobody else would take you.

Caught in 4k
believe me we could talk about it but I'm on a schedule to eat now, have a good day  :) ;)
Thats alright, using the broken English translator is a waste of my time anyway

https://lingojam.com/EnglishtoBrokenEnglish
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 18, 2022, 01:54:24 pm
Chrizeh, i herebe order yu to zhut de fuck up yu uhbzolute moruh
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on February 18, 2022, 01:56:56 pm
Price you've always been a clown for me I think you will remain one  ::) :P
Thats not what you said when you begged me to let you into 27th because nobody else would take you.

Caught in 4k
believe me we could talk about it but I'm on a schedule to eat now, have a good day  :) ;)
Thats alright, using the broken English translator is a waste of my time anyway

https://lingojam.com/EnglishtoBrokenEnglish
hm broken eng translator , how u imagine it ?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 02:04:48 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Steinmann on February 18, 2022, 02:11:42 pm
;D
Here we have a true autoblock legend
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Strawhead on February 18, 2022, 02:41:27 pm
6-7 years ago when I was still playing Point Blank competitively (a FPS game), there was a program that named "Blink". That program was taking screenshots from the game and computer at random times and uploading these to it's database. It was impossible to delete images from there. Every player had their own ID's for this program. When a host or player suspects of cheating we were using this. I don't know if the program still exists but it was a very efficient way for detecting cheaters 6-7 years ago. I just wanted to let you know, maybe you can use this program.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 18, 2022, 02:56:09 pm
This discussion has been brought up in Native, the use of a program called 'MOSS', however, it came to the conclusion that there were too many questions and not many answers, the veracity of these capturing programs were questioned rigorously, especially considering the ethics behind capturing, storing and viewing. Screen capturing outside reliable competitive games has been controversial due to people not actually know how to handle and maintain the data, much like with MOSS, there's always a 'chance' of it capturing your desktop and that's GDPR issue that people don't want to be part of.

No one here is trustworthy, educated or reliable enough to maintain 'captured' data, we're a community-driven game, with tournaments hosted by the community and not FSE/Taleworlds themselves, thus making it a dud. You could probably argue (as Criseh mentioned) that you could potentially capture when game files have been edited, but the same issue comes to play when it comes to reliability, there's been a case (WBMM before it was web-based) where the developer actually used 'spyware' to catch cheaters, not knowing there's a massive ethic and GDPR concern, causing him to be thrown off the development team and temporarily banned from the Taleworlds forum, if someone is to use or develop one of these capturing softwares, how would I know if he's only capturing my warband files?

There's too many questions for any form of editing/anti-cheat capturing software which absolutely means there's no chance we'd be using them. You could of-course make T&Cs about data capturing, but ultimately with the amount of people in this community who barely know how to type, I doubt they'd know what's right or wrong, so it'll be absolutely moronic in both the data holder and the user to actually use it and if there is a data breach, there can be some serious legal consequences.

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 18, 2022, 03:00:26 pm
people that write paragraphs on NW  :-\
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Rikkert on February 18, 2022, 03:05:30 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kong on February 18, 2022, 03:20:30 pm
people that write paragraphs on NW  :-\

all ur messages are getting ignored so ill give you the attention you want vegus
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 18, 2022, 03:20:42 pm
Are colored muskets going to be allowed?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 18, 2022, 03:20:57 pm
Are colored muskets going to be allowed?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 18, 2022, 03:21:47 pm
people that write paragraphs on NW  :-\

all ur messages are getting ignored so ill give you the attention you want vegus
Go feed the cows they need attention
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kong on February 18, 2022, 03:22:51 pm
people that write paragraphs on NW  :-\

all ur messages are getting ignored so ill give you the attention you want vegus
Go feed the cows they need attention

yeah your mom is getting jealous that ur the only one here getting it
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 18, 2022, 03:25:30 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortune to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 18, 2022, 03:25:37 pm
people that write paragraphs on NW  :-\

all ur messages are getting ignored so ill give you the attention you want vegus
Go feed the cows they need attention

yeah your mom is getting jealous that ur the only one here getting it
Ok big man
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 04:04:51 pm
There are two M&B cheats websites, how have you not known that all this time lmao.
There are actually more of them, just some dont work anymore and the autoblock that muha was talking about is no longer available anywhere to download  ;) ;)

It is Available for ''Authorised personnel & Registered users that have more than 2+ years registered accounts''
lemoncheat is not available , TKC is available but there is no link to 1.172 or earlier 1.158
LemonCheat is available if you bought it before, I have a LemonCheat account that i used to play with on TG_Arena with the aimbot, if you are interested I'll sell it for half the price of the cheat (10 euros)
Sorry to make your buyers disappointed but the LemonCheats is working with HWID ''Hardware ID'' (It is connecting to your Windows CD-KEY, it is meant to prevent giving it to others free)

Which will most likely mean that when a user buys the cheat, only its PC is available to use the cheat

However on the other side the cheat is working with the website itself , for example website down => cheat wouldn't open
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 18, 2022, 04:06:08 pm
cringe retards
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Rikkert on February 18, 2022, 04:15:21 pm
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortune to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 18, 2022, 04:16:25 pm
my man rikkert is decent gf pleyur

dont insult him zeydun
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: ZeroNight on February 18, 2022, 04:36:43 pm
Good thing this fucking community dies
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: LEVIS on February 18, 2022, 04:38:39 pm
Bruh this whole 20 page argument is just cringe
Spoiler
kinda missed drama lmao
[close]
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 18, 2022, 04:40:49 pm
Spoiler
This discussion has been brought up in Native, the use of a program called 'MOSS', however, it came to the conclusion that there were too many questions and not many answers, the veracity of these capturing programs were questioned rigorously, especially considering the ethics behind capturing, storing and viewing. Screen capturing outside reliable competitive games has been controversial due to people not actually know how to handle and maintain the data, much like with MOSS, there's always a 'chance' of it capturing your desktop and that's GDPR issue that people don't want to be part of.

No one here is trustworthy, educated or reliable enough to maintain 'captured' data, we're a community-driven game, with tournaments hosted by the community and not FSE/Taleworlds themselves, thus making it a dud. You could probably argue (as Criseh mentioned) that you could potentially capture when game files have been edited, but the same issue comes to play when it comes to reliability, there's been a case (WBMM before it was web-based) where the developer actually used 'spyware' to catch cheaters, not knowing there's a massive ethic and GDPR concern, causing him to be thrown off the development team and temporarily banned from the Taleworlds forum, if someone is to use or develop one of these capturing softwares, how would I know if he's only capturing my warband files?

There's too many questions for any form of editing/anti-cheat capturing software which absolutely means there's no chance we'd be using them. You could of-course make T&Cs about data capturing, but ultimately with the amount of people in this community who barely know how to type, I doubt they'd know what's right or wrong, so it'll be absolutely moronic in both the data holder and the user to actually use it and if there is a data breach, there can be some serious legal consequences.
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your secrets are safe with me don't worry
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Artista. on February 21, 2022, 10:34:25 am
Good thing this fucking community dies
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 21, 2022, 11:04:39 am
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
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I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite we laughed about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

https://steamcommunity.com/id/radulfmb/
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 21, 2022, 11:07:00 am
Good thing this fucking community dies
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tomppa on February 21, 2022, 11:08:39 am
Good thing this fucking community dies
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 21, 2022, 11:12:53 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
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I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
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here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on February 21, 2022, 11:17:32 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
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Oh.. i'm so sorry MUHA :'( i didn't know that missing 2 STABS into the back of someone (lmao how is it possible) and then dying just after was a BAIT, how stupid i am  :-[
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fluxyy on February 21, 2022, 11:17:50 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
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you crazy in Balkans
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 21, 2022, 11:19:02 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
you crazy in Balkans
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here comes a guy that started playing in late-mid-end(idk what the fuck is this) 2021 with 45 FSE posts that doesn't know shit is going around him, nor where he is

whatever you write is inaccurate and dumb fluxxy
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fluxyy on February 21, 2022, 11:24:38 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
you crazy in Balkans
here comes a guy that started playing in late-mid-end(idk what the fuck is this) 2021 with 45 FSE posts that doesn't know shit is going around him, nor where he is

whatever you write is inaccurate and dumb fluxxy
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I know where I am my little muhaa and I simply changed my fse to answer my very few messages on this current account :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fluxyy on February 21, 2022, 11:25:26 am
Good thing this fucking community dies
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on February 21, 2022, 11:25:57 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
you crazy in Balkans
here comes a guy that started playing in late-mid-end(idk what the fuck is this) 2021 with 45 FSE posts that doesn't know shit is going around him, nor where he is

whatever you write is inaccurate and dumb fluxxy
I know where I am my little muhaa and I simply changed my fse to answer my very few messages on this current account :)
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okay corporal of French Legion 3rd Dispatch of Libya
i understand
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on February 21, 2022, 11:27:44 am
Nice pyramids boys! :o
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fluxyy on February 21, 2022, 11:29:20 am
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/x34lpBg.png)
[close]
I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2Fstatus%2Fdefault%2F76561198406174664.png&hash=b1ed08371c94ca1dee35fe9d8e3cf3663aa34bef) (https://www.steamsignature.com)(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steamsignature.com%2FAddFriend.png&hash=7a89ded8e2f2275a5c12182a147ebfe5e117033e) (http://steam://friends/add/'.76561198406174664.')
here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
you crazy in Balkans
here comes a guy that started playing in late-mid-end(idk what the fuck is this) 2021 with 45 FSE posts that doesn't know shit is going around him, nor where he is

whatever you write is inaccurate and dumb fluxxy
I know where I am my little muhaa and I simply changed my fse to answer my very few messages on this current account :)
okay corporal of French Legion 3rd Dispatch of Libya
i understand
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np the conscript in the legion
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Moi~ on February 21, 2022, 11:36:47 am
Guys...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John F. Kennedy on February 21, 2022, 11:44:00 am
When are you posting full list of autoblockers Muha, we need some time to prepare watchlist
I will post it somewhere else since FSE does not allow to include IP / Personal Information => would get me banned

List is already created since 2017 (just updated)

Will Post it on Google Docs Sunday 20th of February
Will Post it on TKC Website(Team-Kill & Cheats Community)

+ the watchlist is a true meme, you just had yoda there for 1+ years? still not caught? oh wait i forgot its just a name there to fill up and not make it look like a  ''blank watchlists''
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 21, 2022, 11:48:48 am
No pyramids smh. Use a spoiler after 5 quotes
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on February 21, 2022, 11:50:17 am
NWWC arguments have historically been needlessly aggressive and kinda cringe. But this year, my god, this whole mess is just idiotic. Ironic comments left and right, people arguing about bloody backstabs and past gfs, modded graphics, crashes and in-game comments. Are you kidding me? Have you gone so deep into the "group-thinking" mindset  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink) that you can't communicate without being sarcastic or just plainly twats? A guy bothers to explain a technical issue, another person replies with an ironic comment. Some guy mentions a past game, the whole chat just explodes. Some other dude calls a guy a lucky cunt, the guy reacts as if he was challenged to a renaissance duel and so on, a never ending circle of normalized twatness. As if being sarcastic and antagonistic on an fse thread, for a tournament without a price, will elevate you into alpha male status in the pack. It's almost as if most of you here drop bloody egg cells and everyone needs to cope with your periods homones. Jeez people.         
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Phailur on February 21, 2022, 11:54:02 am
good mental
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 21, 2022, 12:04:10 pm
No pyramids smh. Use a spoiler after 5 quotes
who asked?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Saitama on February 21, 2022, 12:29:57 pm
Ngl the only winner I see in the last few pages of this is Muha. A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on February 21, 2022, 12:36:26 pm
Ngl the only winner I see in the last few pages of this is Muha. A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.

You've been reading a different thread then
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 21, 2022, 12:37:39 pm
I just see some kids with ADHD
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: DayBoul on February 21, 2022, 12:53:24 pm
It's almost as if most of you here drop bloody egg cells and everyone needs to cope with your periods homones       
you just earned yourself a swift CANCELLATION for this MISOGYNISTIC post
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 21, 2022, 01:04:50 pm
Wait you guys are still at this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-wKeLKwqo
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Knightmare on February 21, 2022, 01:26:59 pm
Wait you guys are still at this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-wKeLKwqo
(https://i.imgur.com/Sme7y4F.png)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 21, 2022, 01:49:27 pm
Get out Albanian reee
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 21, 2022, 02:03:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG-7ycajCNE
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on February 21, 2022, 02:26:53 pm
(https://c.tenor.com/0hQpRsWEaMIAAAAM/ricfazeres-ricjam.gif)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: LEVIS on February 21, 2022, 02:38:37 pm
I just see some kids with ADHD
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on February 21, 2022, 04:55:16 pm
Good thing that Muha can`t keep his threatening promise to post an autoblockers list   :P
 
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on February 21, 2022, 05:31:53 pm
good mental
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: crazypro25. on February 21, 2022, 05:34:56 pm
Good thing that Muha can`t keep his threatening promise to post an autoblockers list   :P

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Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tigere on February 21, 2022, 08:50:52 pm
I always throw high ballistic stabs at my girlfriend
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Golden. on February 21, 2022, 09:42:20 pm
Spoiler
We saw how that went with the yellow muskets. People will conveniently "crash" when the referee asks them to screenshot, won't they zeyden?
No i didn't crash ? i just disconnected from the game to remove the yellow musket because i didn't give a fuck, i never lied about it  ???
At least you're an honest hypocrite then, that is great news!
In fact, I don't know if you're in a good position to lecture me, you see, I remember that several times during EGS video or even in the chat you insulted my players (Chuckster for example) because they had the misfortun :De to be "lucky" and therefore to have killed you, look at yourself in the mirror and realize who is the hypocrite who used to come and explain to me that I had a huge ego when he himself has an even bigger one  ;D

Spoiler
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I know which tournament and which round that was, and I distinctly remember hitting two backstabpokes in a row on him that round, which would indeed qualify him as being a "lucky cunt". If that offends you then you are truly as insecure as I imagined. Not that we should take your opinion seriously since you equate trashtalking to literally cheating in a tournament.
Ah it's good, I can finally answer to your nonsense, I just wanted to point out that you two stab poked because they are bad stabs.. and no, nobody was offended by your comment, quite the opposite about it I was just questioning your own hypocrisy Rikkert, nothing more  ;)

(If you want to learn how to throw stabs that don't poke and therefore avoid choking in final, I invite you to contact me on steam for a coaching session !)

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here we have the newcomer ZEYDUN trying to explain to a higher experienced guy called Rikkert big guy big friend for muha i come to the aid and assistance

throwing random stabs out of nowhere is most likely here known as baits, so whatever he does in Groupfighting its on his own you can't judge his playstyle like this or by any kind

he may have won less things than you but, doing 1 stupid thing is same with all other players doing it  :'(
you crazy in Balkans
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here comes a guy that started playing in late-mid-end(idk what the fuck is this) 2021 with 45 FSE posts that doesn't know shit is going around him, nor where he is

whatever you write is inaccurate and dumb fluxxy

lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Knightmare on February 24, 2022, 05:04:46 am
pack it up guys marxeil is dead
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Dusbled on February 24, 2022, 11:30:16 am
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

This is not the right time and neither the right place (there is probably never one in war times) to do such statement, if you like him or hate him does not matter, this is impious.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on February 24, 2022, 11:33:41 am
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

This is not the right time and neither the right place (there is probably never one in war times) to do such statement, if you like him or hate him does not matter, this is impious.

This guy always writes some cringe things on FSE, I don`t think he is able to think critically
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 24, 2022, 11:35:05 am
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

This is not the right time and neither the right place (there is probably never one in war times) to do such statement, if you like him or hate him does not matter, this is impious.
There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on February 24, 2022, 12:20:15 pm
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste

There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!

Your bloody western "untouchable" attitude is part of the problem with what is happening in eastern Europe the past 10 years.
Being impolite and constantly sarcastic over a game is a twat's farce, but somewhat understandable. This time it is different.
Show some respect for the unknown dead, regardless of the side. Imbecile kid.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 24, 2022, 12:22:37 pm
Whatever dude, keep your insults to yourself since I cba caring about your opinion.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 24, 2022, 12:25:02 pm
Its Knightmare guys, he says much worse on the daily its expected behaviour from him lol

It is a consideration to make though. For once MarxeiL has a legitimate reason to drop out of hosting something.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 24, 2022, 12:28:14 pm
It is a consideration to make though. For once MarxeiL has a legitimate reason to drop out of hosting something.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: AchillesTheOne on February 24, 2022, 12:37:52 pm
My prayers for Ukraine🙏🏽
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Golden. on February 24, 2022, 12:42:01 pm
Its fine Marxeil can move back to Argentina which is where he is really from :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Rikkert on February 24, 2022, 12:43:12 pm
Marxeil is moving in with me and we are hosting nwwc together.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on February 24, 2022, 12:58:34 pm
thats what i thought @price ahahaha

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Knightmare on February 24, 2022, 01:20:11 pm
Its Knightmare guys, he says much worse on the daily its expected behaviour from him lol

It is a consideration to make though. For once MarxeiL has a legitimate reason to drop out of hosting something.
european complaining???????????????????????????????????????????????

pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste
i dont hate the guy u know
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kore on February 24, 2022, 01:22:23 pm
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste

There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!

Your bloody western "untouchable" attitude is part of the problem with what is happening in eastern Europe the past 10 years.
Being impolite and constantly sarcastic over a game is a twat's farce, but somewhat understandable. This time it is different.
Show some respect for the unknown dead, regardless of the side. Imbecile kid.

Don't start talking politics here
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: John Price on February 24, 2022, 01:26:00 pm
Greeks still riding the high of not losing to Italy but not winning either
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 24, 2022, 02:45:20 pm
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste

There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!

Your bloody western "untouchable" attitude is part of the problem with what is happening in eastern Europe the past 10 years.
Being impolite and constantly sarcastic over a game is a twat's farce, but somewhat understandable. This time it is different.
Show some respect for the unknown dead, regardless of the side. Imbecile kid.
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wursti on February 24, 2022, 02:49:44 pm
Its an NWWC thread
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Rikus on February 24, 2022, 02:50:45 pm
Its an NWWC thread
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on February 24, 2022, 02:50:53 pm
When I want to be updated on geopolitics and form an opinion based on facts and evidence, the first thing I do is check the FSE forums.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on February 24, 2022, 02:51:45 pm
When I want to be updated on geopolitics and form an opinion based on facts and evidence, the first thing I do is check the FSE forums.

only the most intellectual and sound minds post on fse
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Eamon on February 24, 2022, 02:56:06 pm
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste

There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!

Your bloody western "untouchable" attitude is part of the problem with what is happening in eastern Europe the past 10 years.
Being impolite and constantly sarcastic over a game is a twat's farce, but somewhat understandable. This time it is different.
Show some respect for the unknown dead, regardless of the side. Imbecile kid.
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.

hardly a rant, only took me 5 seconds to read this entire thing, cmon guys give me more material ffs
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on February 24, 2022, 03:05:45 pm
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste

There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!

Your bloody western "untouchable" attitude is part of the problem with what is happening in eastern Europe the past 10 years.
Being impolite and constantly sarcastic over a game is a twat's farce, but somewhat understandable. This time it is different.
Show some respect for the unknown dead, regardless of the side. Imbecile kid.
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.
lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on February 24, 2022, 03:07:57 pm
Spoiler
pack it up guys marxeil is dead

Bad taste

There is always someone that tries to be virtuous... BORING!

Your bloody western "untouchable" attitude is part of the problem with what is happening in eastern Europe the past 10 years.
Being impolite and constantly sarcastic over a game is a twat's farce, but somewhat understandable. This time it is different.
Show some respect for the unknown dead, regardless of the side. Imbecile kid.
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.

hardly a rant, only took me 5 seconds to read this entire thing, cmon guys give me more material ffs
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Took my dyslexic ass 15 minutes to write lmao
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kubus on February 24, 2022, 03:37:27 pm
Its an NWWC thread
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on February 24, 2022, 03:53:44 pm
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.

1) Greece took up refugees equal to 10% of its entire country's population over the past five years alone, not to mention refugees from the beginning of hostilities in Syria or from the Yugoslav wars and Albanian civil wars, that still reside in Greece. So this argument is completely invalid. Only Turkey reached this kind of number on refugee housing and caring since the war broke out.

2) How does the Greek state's policy reflect my own view on Vegi's making fun of war casualties? This makes no sense.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on February 24, 2022, 04:00:30 pm
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.

1) Greece took up refugees equal to 10% of its entire country's population over the past five years alone, not to mention refugees from the beginning of hostilities in Syria or from the Yugoslav wars and Albanian civil wars, that still reside in Greece. So this argument is completely invalid. Only Turkey reached this kind of number on refugee housing and caring since the war broke out.

2) How does the Greek state's policy reflect my own view on Vegi's making fun of war casualties? This makes no sense.

Dont get baited by retards who constantly look for arguments who try to take the piss over this genuine calamity

Its a nationscup thread, just leave it
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on February 24, 2022, 04:07:39 pm
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.

1) Greece took up refugees equal to 10% of its entire country's population over the past five years alone, not to mention refugees from the beginning of hostilities in Syria or from the Yugoslav wars and Albanian civil wars, that still reside in Greece. So this argument is completely invalid. Only Turkey reached this kind of number on refugee housing and caring since the war broke out.

2) How does the Greek state's policy reflect my own view on Vegi's making fun of war casualties? This makes no sense.

Dont get baited by retards who constantly look for arguments who try to take the piss over this genuine calamity

Its a nationscup thread, just leave it
Just blitz being retarded, nothing new to see here
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on February 24, 2022, 04:21:49 pm
Is this coming from the same Greeks that stop refugees of war coming through their country to seek refuge somewhere else. Pointing fingers at “westerners” and acting like your own part of the world doesn’t do the exact same thing. Rant over.
2) How does the Greek state's policy reflect my own view on Vegi's making fun of war casualties? This makes no sense.
Yeah, that's what I did indeed lmao, get your head out of your ass and stop being such a bitch.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Golden. on February 24, 2022, 04:57:59 pm
As per NWWC rules ukraine team will have to merge into russian team soon, sorry max1m looks like your spots taken in team 1
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Eamon on February 24, 2022, 05:37:15 pm
As per NWWC rules ukraine team will have to merge into russian team soon, sorry max1m looks like your spots taken in team 1

This joke is overused and in poor taste, shame on you golden.

Come to my captains office this evening for disciplinary procedures.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MikeyBruh on February 24, 2022, 05:42:09 pm
If any Ukrainians need refuge Come to NA.  I will have complimentary Big Macs and donuts waiting for you.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: ONeil_ on February 24, 2022, 05:52:09 pm
Flusha causing Russian food shortage so they have to invade, typical
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarjioviçR on February 24, 2022, 06:00:23 pm
If any Ukrainians need refuge Come to NA.  I will have complimentary Big Macs and donuts waiting for you.
i can host ukrainians for real
freedom you are also welcomed
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Wilhelmrk on February 24, 2022, 07:50:02 pm
Its an NWWC thread

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Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BabyJesus on February 24, 2022, 08:07:17 pm
When I want to be updated on geopolitics and form an opinion based on facts and evidence, the first thing I do is check the FSE forums.

only the most intellectual and sound minds post on fse
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: DayBoul on February 28, 2022, 03:49:45 pm
Its an NWWC thread

(https://c.tenor.com/dypucHMixbEAAAAC/patrick-star-no-this-is-patrick.gif)
what the hell are you doing here? get out of here with your LOSER 0.038 post per day
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Moi~ on March 03, 2022, 12:14:06 am
Quick update,

1. Servers NWWC_FRA1, NWWC_FRA2 and NWWC_FRA3 are already available to be played on, NL1 and GER1&2 will be up before week's end. All of them are open to be played on for training matches. Captains will soon receive the admin password.
2. Regarding current world events, we have the team and the tools to continue hosting the competition regardless of the ongoing situation in the east. As a sidenote, we ask players not to be intrusive towards UA & RUS members and respect the time they choose to dedicate into the game.

For any issues feel free to contact any of the organisers.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Freestyler on March 04, 2022, 04:12:58 pm
Quick update,

1. Servers NWWC_FRA1, NWWC_FRA2 and NWWC_FRA3 are already available to be played on, NL1 and GER1&2 will be up before week's end. All of them are open to be played on for training matches. Captains will soon receive the admin password.
2. Regarding current world events, we have the team and the tools to continue hosting the competition regardless of the ongoing situation in the east. As a sidenote, we ask players not to be intrusive towards UA & RUS members and respect the time they choose to dedicate into the game.

For any issues feel free to contact any of the organisers.

GER1&2 are now also available
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Mac` on March 12, 2022, 04:41:45 pm
Quick update,

1. Servers NWWC_FRA1, NWWC_FRA2 and NWWC_FRA3 are already available to be played on, NL1 and GER1&2 will be up before week's end. All of them are open to be played on for training matches. Captains will soon receive the admin password.
2. Regarding current world events, we have the team and the tools to continue hosting the competition regardless of the ongoing situation in the east. As a sidenote, we ask players not to be intrusive towards UA & RUS members and respect the time they choose to dedicate into the game.

For any issues feel free to contact any of the organisers.
NWWC_UK1, NWWC_NL1 and NWWC_IE1 ;D are up
Let me know if there are any issues
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on March 13, 2022, 01:27:55 pm
Good luck to all the national teams and their refugees
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Komar on March 13, 2022, 02:24:24 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3U4QbeA.png)

Wow a typicall street fight in london, looking forward to seeing it in NW.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on March 13, 2022, 02:25:18 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3U4QbeA.png)

Wow a typicall street fight in london, looking forward to seeing it in NW.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: tommyxd on March 13, 2022, 02:35:35 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3U4QbeA.png)

Wow a typicall street fight in london, looking forward to seeing it in NW.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: HiReaper on March 13, 2022, 03:19:12 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3U4QbeA.png)

Wow a typicall street fight in london, looking forward to seeing it in NW.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G_l84oEawmU
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: DayBoul on March 14, 2022, 02:59:12 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3U4QbeA.png)

Wow a typicall street fight in london, looking forward to seeing it in NW.
nice they gave us our own british isles battle royal
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: PadawaN on March 23, 2022, 12:41:14 pm
Why marquez lost admin powers?  ???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on March 23, 2022, 12:52:17 pm
Why marquez lost admin powers?  ???
All sorted now, he got it.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Ry@n on April 12, 2022, 12:17:02 pm
So is there a losers bracket this year? Remember there being talk about it... Or can ire disband lol
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on April 12, 2022, 12:35:40 pm
So is there a losers bracket this year? Remember there being talk about it... Or can ire disband lol
There should be one. More information will be posted after groupstages are finished
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 14, 2022, 03:29:16 pm

Should we swap the Groups A and D in the knockouts for NWWC



I just wanted to put my two cents about the whole swapping of groups A and D for the knock out stage of this NWWC. For context, Captains of every nation get a vote to either swap group A and D - to allow for an ENG v FRA final -or to keep the bracket the way it is. Although I am not a captain (I don't get a vote) - I am an advisor for this years NWWC and with the permissions of the other organisers I have been allowed to make this much wanted post which is directed to captains and more importantly the wider community. 

Before everyone starts bashing the organisers of the tournament for mistakenly creating the bracket - 2/3 main organisers are Ukrainian, with the outbreak of the war happening as the brackets were being made and Chicken who made the bracket has had a broken PC for a month now. We are just making the best out of a bad situation. I will argue why we shouldn't alter the brackets but still have a vote on this issue.

What does this swap mean for the teams going into the top bracket? A lot of teams are going to have more favourable matches in the knock outs namely, ESP/NL and more of course ENG and FRA with these teams getting an ultimately easier run to the final.

Are ENG and FRA, the historical favourites, even the best two teams this year?

Regardless of the swapping of the groups, the best NWWC team will ultimately win so why are we altering the bracket half way through the tournament to give the two historically best NWWC teams an easier run to the final, doesn’t that seem fundamentally unfair to the other teams and to the community?

The champions league, as an example, is the most competitive successful European tournament as upsets happen, look at last night with Villarreal beating Bayern on aggregate, who would’ve thought? Does the CL change the knock outs when Man City and Liverpool (two best teams imo) are seeded to fight in the first round of knock outs? The best team ultimately wins regardless of their path to the final.

I myself who plays for ESP and whose team directly profits from this swap in groups feel uneasy with this swap and even if it gives us an easier run, out of sake of integrity I feel like I must call this swap out for what it is. A manipulation of the brackets half way through the tournament to satisfy certain entitled figures in the community, thus blatantly disregarding the integrity of the tournament and community in hopes to simply win.

Ultimately though, it is a community run event and thus the community (captains) should be able to put this to a vote and decide what’s best for the community - not what’s best for your team. I am not opposed to a vote as its democratic and many captains have already voted, I am sure captains are mature enough to understand what this means if a swap does happen and will vote for what is in the best interests of the community, not their own team.

I am not a captain for this NWWC so I do not have a vote, the aim of this post is to speak to the captains, whether you have already voted, or are planning to vote for the swap - to please reconsider your decision for the sake of the integrity the NWWC.

Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2022, 03:35:00 pm
It was always seeded towards France/England in the past as they always topped their group and were the clear two favourites since Germany was normally a fair bit behind almost all years. This year I don't believe that is so clear cut so I don't believe FRA/ENG need to be split as long as say Germany, FRA and ENG are not on the same side of the bracket I'd consider that as being seeded correctly from the start as I'd think those are the three favourites still with the '4th favourite' being in close contention between a few teams.

Not that it matters what I think but that's just my two cents and I don't personally see a need to change it as I believe this NWWC is the most open in years.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2022, 03:44:42 pm
Keep it as it is
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 14, 2022, 03:48:30 pm
keep it that way
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on April 14, 2022, 03:53:27 pm
Keep it, its just stupid to change it to have the same outcome that usually has.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on April 14, 2022, 04:04:06 pm
Who was asking for this change in the first place?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on April 14, 2022, 04:12:16 pm
Who was asking for this change in the first place?
you guess...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 14, 2022, 04:23:23 pm
Keep it, if a team is good enough to win they will, this is the weakest france and england rosters in years so maybe we can actually have someone interesting this time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 14, 2022, 04:59:36 pm
Fr tho if you change it I'm pulling my servers
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2022, 05:00:08 pm
Fr tho if you change it I'm pulling my servers
Then we fking change it
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on April 14, 2022, 05:11:33 pm
It’s pretty obvious that I dislike the possible change because it would make the brackets harder for us but still changing the brackets after the 5th matchweek is hilarious. Especially with the reasoning of a mistake with happened at the seeding of the teams. If that would have been the case then yes change it before the whole tournament even starts but not after it progressed to the knockouts. If it would have started with a tournament tree which would lead to a matchup between England and France in the final than yes sure no problem but a change now, after everyone was aware of the Tourneenroute tree and the possible matchups for the different stages is just inappropriate since it damages the whole foundations of trust in the brackets.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Coco. on April 14, 2022, 05:22:26 pm
Keep it, if a team is good enough to win they will, this is the weakest france and england rosters in years so maybe we can actually have someone interesting this time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Melsyo on April 14, 2022, 05:28:16 pm
Who was asking for this change in the first place?
Me!!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 05:43:32 pm
Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 14, 2022, 05:53:54 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2022, 06:00:18 pm
Tbf I always thought from the start of this NWWC that GER had the best chance of winning; France hasn't particularly been in the best of places as far as I'm aware
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Melsyo on April 14, 2022, 06:00:39 pm
Ultimately seeding the finals for NL was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
I disagree
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 06:04:45 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2022, 06:05:29 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France.

It's because if you lose vs France, you believe you'd have at least beat Germany/NL, thus giving you a 'deserved' second place instead of potential bronze match?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 14, 2022, 06:06:02 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

the best teams will be in the finals, who cares which teams they are? if you're the best team you'll win the tournament
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: KOBZIK on April 14, 2022, 06:08:29 pm
Changing anything in the end of group stage is imo too late. We should accept it as it is.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 14, 2022, 06:11:04 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

Great! So what's the point in the poll, if you and FRA are supposedly are okay with not swapping the groups around, then why have the majority of captains voted yesterday for the groups to be swapped?

Now are ENG and FRA willing to swap their vote to be against the group swap now?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Ry@n on April 14, 2022, 06:11:58 pm
Cringe that you'd even ask for the change tbh...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Janne on April 14, 2022, 06:13:33 pm
Cringe that you'd even ask for the change tbh...
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 06:13:33 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

Great! So what's the point in the poll, if you and FRA are supposedly are okay with not swapping the groups around, then why have the majority of captains voted yesterday for the groups to be swapped?

Now are ENG and FRA willing to swap their vote to be against the group swap now?
No idea. I complained weeks ago the day we fought Ireland and haven't cared since.

And no I still wish to fight Fra in the finals.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 14, 2022, 06:18:21 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

Great! So what's the point in the poll, if you and FRA are supposedly are okay with not swapping the groups around, then why have the majority of captains voted yesterday for the groups to be swapped?

Now are ENG and FRA willing to swap their vote to be against the group swap now?
No idea. I complained weeks ago the day we fought Ireland and haven't cared since.

And no I still wish to fight Fra in the finals.

yikes
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kore on April 14, 2022, 06:24:01 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

well you can face them in the semis and enjoy the bronze
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Louisss on April 14, 2022, 06:24:43 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

well you can face them in the semis and enjoy the bronze
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2022, 06:39:52 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

well you can face them in the semis and enjoy the bronze

💀💀💀💀💀💀
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2022, 06:45:10 pm
Cringe that you'd even ask for the change tbh...

Afaik we asked about the brackets weeks ago, after nwwc started, and the admins decided to put off making a decision until the end of the groups.

the best teams will be in the finals, who cares which teams they are? if you're the best team you'll win the tournament

This is not how brackets work. All of France, England and Germany are not going to have the opportunity to all play each other pre-finals to determine who the best 2 are - nor should they - because seeded brackets don't work like that. NWWC has always seeded the brackets to make England and France not be on the same side; whether you agree with that or not is another matter but that's how it has historically been. The tournament does not work in such a way as to guarantee the best teams will be in the finals, only one from each side of the bracket.

On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.

This is a misrepresentation of not only the facts of what happened but also of the motivation behind it. The issue was raised a while ago, not with the recency you imply. It is not about getting an "easier ride to the finals"; a seeded bracket creates the most fair opportunities for all teams, not just the top ones. If you or others feel it should stay as it is then simply vote for it in the poll. Since that is the route you have chosen just let the vote decide and enforce the result accordingly.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Giorno on April 14, 2022, 06:56:53 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

the best teams will be in the finals, who cares which teams they are? if you're the best team you'll win the tournament

That's literally not how seeding works. It's incredibly idealistic to say that, but it's just not how tournaments function.
Seeding always benefits some teams and fucks over others, and it is especially difficult to manually seed with three comparably skilled top teams, where on any given day you could argue each being the best.

The question is whether you want to have (1) random seeding and leave the brackets to chance/luck, or (2) ensure a more competitive final based on what we already know.

As a passive Irish bystander, I would like to see ENG defend their title in the finals if, and only if, they manage to beat everyone on their way there.
Of course, this ENG is not even slightly the same ENG that won the title last year (player-wise, not skill), so it's a bit odd to say "defend the title" when half of them weren't involved in winning it last time round, but NWWC is different in that the teams consist of compatriots, so I believe it's fair to say they are defending it.

However, again you can't ignore the huge advantage one of the teams will receive by seeding opposite to the other 2 teams, so either don't tamper with brackets at all, or let ENG have the easier side and the two "challengers" fight it out on their way there.

My biased two cents, look forward to fighting my fellow scrubs in lower bracket <3


Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 14, 2022, 07:05:29 pm
If you get to the finals, you deserve to be there, if you win the final you are the best team, worrying about who you play when is just being a bitch and thinking you might lose tbh. Who cares if eng and fra even play each other the tournament doesn't exist for their grudge match and even if it did these are not the same eng and fra we know. Also just because something "has been done historically" doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Furthermore the idea of "we want to play fra in the finals" is purely driven by an ego or by being afraid you'll lose before you get there, either way pretty weak willed.

If you want to prove you're the best team, win the tournament, whoever it may be that does that.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2022, 07:10:02 pm
As long as Germany, France and England are split I don't really see an issue. I believe this year Germany has as much a chance to win as France and England, ofc that remains to be seen but on paper, I believe they do. Germany on paper have a very strong roster, often they do however and don't perform as well as expected.

But changing the brackets now is simply too late. It should have been done in early groups if there was a 'mistake' but ideally before the tournament began.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Melsyo on April 14, 2022, 07:16:43 pm
On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

the best teams will be in the finals, who cares which teams they are? if you're the best team you'll win the tournament

That's literally not how seeding works. It's incredibly idealistic to say that, but it's just not how tournaments function.
Seeding always benefits some teams and fucks over others, and it is especially difficult to manually seed with three comparably skilled top teams, where on any given day you could argue each being the best.

The question is whether you want to have (1) random seeding and leave the brackets to chance/luck, or (2) ensure a more competitive final based on what we already know.

As a passive Irish bystander, I would like to see ENG defend their title in the finals if, and only if, they manage to beat everyone on their way there.
Of course, this ENG is not even slightly the same ENG that won the title last year (player-wise, not skill), so it's a bit odd to say "defend the title" when half of them weren't involved in winning it last time round, but NWWC is different in that the teams consist of compatriots, so I believe it's fair to say they are defending it.

However, again you can't ignore the huge advantage one of the teams will receive by seeding opposite to the other 2 teams, so either don't tamper with brackets at all, or let ENG have the easier side and the two "challengers" fight it out on their way there.

My biased two cents, look forward to fighting my fellow scrubs in lower bracket <3
If the English roster was overwhelmingly the same as the past years I would probably agree with you. However, as many of 2022 England's players did not contribute to past NWWC titles in any way, they really don't deserve an easier finals route lol; this English team remains yet unproven (same for France this year but to a slightly lesser degree).
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: jakob. on April 14, 2022, 07:18:31 pm
cringe
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 14, 2022, 07:20:23 pm
you know something is fucked when im agreeing with mask
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 14, 2022, 07:40:29 pm
No one deserves an easier road to the final, I think Germany has as much chance of winning as we do and to change everything is pointless, let the best team win that's all
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Desant on April 14, 2022, 07:47:27 pm
No one deserves an easier road to the final, I think Germany has as much chance of winning as we do and to change everything is pointless, let the best team win that's all

Zidane is always right ^^^
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on April 14, 2022, 07:50:54 pm
Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Why would u blame chicken ? Why cant one of u ( FRA and ENG ) get knocked before finals ??? If there arent upsets whats the point on making tourneys if u already know whos gona win and whos not ??? Im surprised this was even asked..
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2022, 07:51:39 pm
Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Why would u blame chicken ? Why cant one of u ( FRA and ENG ) get knocked before finals ??? If there arent upsets whats the point on making tourneys if u already know whos gona win and whos not ??? Im surprised this was even asked..
I mean ultimately you never know who will win but if the brackets are balanced you're likely to get the expected final and potentially bronze match.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on April 14, 2022, 07:55:00 pm
Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Why would u blame chicken ? Why cant one of u ( FRA and ENG ) get knocked before finals ??? If there arent upsets whats the point on making tourneys if u already know whos gona win and whos not ??? Im surprised this was even asked..
I mean ultimately you never know who will win but if the brackets are balanced you're likely to get the expected final and potentially bronze match.
Yes but why do u want an expected final ? Having the same teams winning over and over again makes nwwc boring and pointless, having for example GER or another team on the finals besides FRA or ENG i think its a pretty fair and good decision, as the other teams need to also have chance of winning, no one wants to play when they know they wont get to the top, like this it opens alot more ways for the top 3 wich in my opinion is way more exciting
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on April 14, 2022, 07:55:52 pm
No one deserves an easier road to the final, I think Germany has as much chance of winning as we do and to change everything is pointless, let the best team win that's all
Couldn’t agree more
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on April 14, 2022, 07:59:03 pm
No one deserves an easier road to the final, I think Germany has as much chance of winning as we do and to change everything is pointless, let the best team win that's all
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on April 14, 2022, 08:03:00 pm
Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Why would u blame chicken ? Why cant one of u ( FRA and ENG ) get knocked before finals ??? If there arent upsets whats the point on making tourneys if u already know whos gona win and whos not ??? Im surprised this was even asked..
I mean ultimately you never know who will win but if the brackets are balanced you're likely to get the expected final and potentially bronze match.
Yes but why do u want an expected final ? Having the same teams winning over and over again makes nwwc boring and pointless, having for example GER or another team on the finals besides FRA or ENG i think its a pretty fair and good decision, as the other teams need to also have chance of winning, no one wants to play when they know they wont get to the top, like this it opens alot more ways for the top 3 wich in my opinion is way more exciting
In this scenario I agree, that's what I was saying before. In the past though with ENG/FRA being so much stronger than the others it would be shite to watch or even play in a final that was 15-0 or 15-7 and an easy thrashing. If I think back to the final we had a few years ago vs France B it was so anti-climatic and I don't really think anyone enjoyed or cared watching it or playing it due to that.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2022, 08:03:45 pm
If you get to the finals, you deserve to be there, if you win the final you are the best team, worrying about who you play when is just being a bitch and thinking you might lose tbh. Who cares if eng and fra even play each other the tournament doesn't exist for their grudge match and even if it did these are not the same eng and fra we know. Also just because something "has been done historically" doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Furthermore the idea of "we want to play fra in the finals" is purely driven by an ego or by being afraid you'll lose before you get there, either way pretty weak willed.

If you want to prove you're the best team, win the tournament, whoever it may be that does that.

If you win the finals you are the best team but that doesn't mean the participants in the finals are the two best teams in the tournament. All NWWCs for a good many years have seeded their knockouts to put the two teams on opposite sides of the bracket. Your personal perspective on "ego" or people being "afraid" is irrelevant, unless you're saying all previous English and French teams for over 5 years have all been driven purely by ego and fear? Or, is it more likely that it is fair and reasonable to put the two finalists from the previous year on opposite sides of the bracket?

Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Why would u blame chicken ? Why cant one of u ( FRA and ENG ) get knocked before finals ??? If there arent upsets whats the point on making tourneys if u already know whos gona win and whos not ??? Im surprised this was even asked..

Not sure how your two points are related; regardless of how it is formatted nobody knows who will win and one can only speculate on who will reach the finals. There is no reason why FRA or ENG cannot be knocked out before the finals, it just doesn't make sense to have the finalists from the previous year face each other so early in the bracket.

On paper, the skill gap between GER and ENG is much closer than any previous NWWC in my opinion, hot take - maybe Chicken when doing the bracket thought GER would be stronger than ENG this year which isn't even a controversial opinion and I agree with him 100%

Why did you, a captain of a supposedly top team now cry to the organisers to try to alter the groups just so you can get an easier ride to the finals? Doesn't that seem unfair to the rest of the teams?

Anything other than keeping the bracket would leave many people feeling cheated.
I didn't cry. I said that my team was disappointed in the fact we couldn't face France in the finals at all and that it had to be done in the knockouts. I even said that I would be happy to face Germany in the semi's and then France in the finals if it meant we had a chance to be able to face France at the desired time.

the best teams will be in the finals, who cares which teams they are? if you're the best team you'll win the tournament

That's literally not how seeding works. It's incredibly idealistic to say that, but it's just not how tournaments function.
Seeding always benefits some teams and fucks over others, and it is especially difficult to manually seed with three comparably skilled top teams, where on any given day you could argue each being the best.

The question is whether you want to have (1) random seeding and leave the brackets to chance/luck, or (2) ensure a more competitive final based on what we already know.

As a passive Irish bystander, I would like to see ENG defend their title in the finals if, and only if, they manage to beat everyone on their way there.
Of course, this ENG is not even slightly the same ENG that won the title last year (player-wise, not skill), so it's a bit odd to say "defend the title" when half of them weren't involved in winning it last time round, but NWWC is different in that the teams consist of compatriots, so I believe it's fair to say they are defending it.

However, again you can't ignore the huge advantage one of the teams will receive by seeding opposite to the other 2 teams, so either don't tamper with brackets at all, or let ENG have the easier side and the two "challengers" fight it out on their way there.

My biased two cents, look forward to fighting my fellow scrubs in lower bracket <3
If the English roster was overwhelmingly the same as the past years I would probably agree with you. However, as many of 2022 England's players did not contribute to past NWWC titles in any way, they really don't deserve an easier finals route lol; this English team remains yet unproven (same for France this year but to a slightly lesser degree).

Very reasonable perspective Melsyo as expected as expected. In a team competition I think that argument would have a lot of merit, but as this is a national competition where the roster is determined by the best players that are willing to play from each nation it's not really up to ENG or FRA whether their rosters are the same or not. Even still, the majority of our roster are past NWWC winners, as is the case for FRA also.

Ultimately seeding the finals for GER was the wrong decision. It should’ve been FRA and ENG like it always had been. Blame moi for that one.
Why would u blame chicken ? Why cant one of u ( FRA and ENG ) get knocked before finals ??? If there arent upsets whats the point on making tourneys if u already know whos gona win and whos not ??? Im surprised this was even asked..
I mean ultimately you never know who will win but if the brackets are balanced you're likely to get the expected final and potentially bronze match.
Yes but why do u want an expected final ? Having the same teams winning over and over again makes nwwc boring and pointless, having for example GER or another team on the finals besides FRA or ENG i think its a pretty fair and good decision, as the other teams need to also have chance of winning, no one wants to play when they know they wont get to the top, like this it opens alot more ways for the top 3 wich in my opinion is way more exciting

Arbitrarily creating a situation in which "another team" reaches the finals for the sake purely of making things not "boring and pointless" is not fair or good.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Salakien on April 14, 2022, 08:04:03 pm
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Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2022, 08:07:08 pm
ENG, FRA and GER all have very similar chances of winning, leave the bracket as it is jesus christ
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Melsyo on April 14, 2022, 08:08:04 pm
ENG, FRA and GER all have very similar chances of winning, leave the bracket as it is jesus christ
why bring Jesus into this???
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on April 14, 2022, 08:09:16 pm
I mean the brackets are random right so nobody is creating that oportunity, if something changing the brackets to make FRA and ENG face themselfs in the finals "is not fair or good" but its just my opinion in the end. Up to the organizers to decide what to do
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 08:52:06 pm
I mean the brackets are random right so nobody is creating that oportunity, if something changing the brackets to make FRA and ENG face themselfs in the finals "is not fair or good" but its just my opinion in the end. Up to the organizers to decide what to do
No the brackets are not random..
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: DarkTemplar on April 14, 2022, 09:32:31 pm
next time when i organise EGS, I will redo the brackets after gs, just want to inform you in advance
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 09:43:26 pm
ENG want to face FRA a week later, is that such a big deal guys?!?!?!??!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
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Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Python | Smeagol on April 14, 2022, 09:43:59 pm
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Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Bagins on April 14, 2022, 09:49:57 pm
Can you all stop spamming your keyboards over this.

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credability left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

Secondly, why are 90% of the players rattling off about this the players who last year were competing for a promotion in their regiment, not the real community. I don't see anyone from previous years complaining about this. England will play France whenever its been set in the brackets and Germany will likely play the winner.

Whether the Semis turns out to be a better match than the final is something we can talk about after the tourney is finished.

Please stop now, English players included
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 09:54:02 pm
Can you all stop spamming your keyboards over this.

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credability left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

Secondly, why are 90% of the players rattling off about this the players who last year were competing for a promotion in their regiment, not the real community. I don't see anyone from previous years complaining about this. England will play France whenever its been set in the brackets and Germany will likely play the winner.

Whether the Semis turns out to be a better match than the final is something we can talk about after the tourney is finished.

Please stop now, English players included

Might need to wind the neck of your 2ic in big lad.

It's 1 week difference, and with people saying the difference between the top 3 teams being a lot less than recent years, the brackets shouldn't be set as ENG vs FRA final. As the clever people on this thread have said, leave the brackets and let it play out how it will play out.
New Gens moaning is class.
I'm here for memes
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 14, 2022, 09:56:00 pm
Can you all stop spamming your keyboards over this.

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credability left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

Secondly, why are 90% of the players rattling off about this the players who last year were competing for a promotion in their regiment, not the real community. I don't see anyone from previous years complaining about this. England will play France whenever its been set in the brackets and Germany will likely play the winner.

Whether the Semis turns out to be a better match than the final is something we can talk about after the tourney is finished.

Please stop now, English players included

Might need to wind the neck of your 2ic in big lad.

It's 1 week difference, and with people saying the difference between the top 3 teams being a lot less than recent years, the brackets shouldn't be set as ENG vs FRA final. As the clever people on this thread have said, leave the brackets and let it play out how it will play out.
New Gens moaning is class.
I'm here for memes
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 14, 2022, 10:03:42 pm
Regardless of the theory behind it, you cannot edit brackets after the tournament matches have played.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 10:07:16 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 14, 2022, 10:07:23 pm
After seeing @Bagins message, I refuse to be in the same side as this bot, I am now in favour of changing the brackets, thank you
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 10:10:23 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.

4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2022, 10:12:08 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.

4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?

Because the admins decided, rather than address and find out what the captains wanted at the outset of the tournament, to wait until the end of the groupstages to even consider the issue.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 10:12:36 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.

4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 14, 2022, 10:13:08 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
When I read your message it sounds like a squire talking to his king, you English really have no shame.. 😂
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: jakob. on April 14, 2022, 10:13:27 pm
y'all suck
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 14, 2022, 10:13:36 pm
y'all suck
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 14, 2022, 10:14:14 pm
y'all suck
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 10:14:43 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
When I read your message it sounds like a squire talking to his king, you English really have no shame.. 😂
Zeyden talking about shame when he left his bro's for virtual pussy
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 14, 2022, 10:15:32 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
When I read your message it sounds like a squire talking to his king, you English really have no shame.. 😂
Zeyden talking about shame when he left his bro's for virtual pussy
Stop talking about my e-kitten like that..  :-[
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2022, 10:21:36 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.

4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me
Even when you're right, you're wrong
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 10:25:04 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me

My question is do you think that ENG is as strong as previous years that GER won't pose much of a threat? If not, then why talk about the brackets unless you wanted an easier route to the final
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 10:30:01 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me

My question is do you think that ENG is as strong as previous years that GER won't pose much of a threat? If not, then why talk about the brackets unless you wanted an easier route to the final
Is England as strong as previous years? Simple answer no. But no team other than GER is as strong as previous years really. I only asked about the brackets as I was surprised England and France was on the same side. If this had happened in the previous years I'm sure any other captain would've asked the same question
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 10:34:33 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me

My question is do you think that ENG is as strong as previous years that GER won't pose much of a threat? If not, then why talk about the brackets unless you wanted an easier route to the final
Is England as strong as previous years? Simple answer no. But no team other than GER is as strong as previous years really. I only asked about the brackets as I was surprised England and France was on the same side. If this had happened in the previous years I'm sure any other captain would've asked the same question
Yes, but that is because ENG and FRA have been clear finalists (As I think Herishey said earlier). This year not so much. So it doesn't HAVE to be ENG vs FRA final. And imo it shouldn't be if there aren't a clear 2 finalist teams.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 14, 2022, 10:37:20 pm

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me

My question is do you think that ENG is as strong as previous years that GER won't pose much of a threat? If not, then why talk about the brackets unless you wanted an easier route to the final
Is England as strong as previous years? Simple answer no. But no team other than GER is as strong as previous years really. I only asked about the brackets as I was surprised England and France was on the same side. If this had happened in the previous years I'm sure any other captain would've asked the same question
Yes, but that is because ENG and FRA have been clear finalists (As I think Herishey said earlier). This year not so much. So it doesn't HAVE to be ENG vs FRA final. And imo it shouldn't be if there aren't a clear 2 finalist teams.
Same reason the organisers gave me and I accepted this and moved on
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2022, 10:43:42 pm
Spoiler

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me

My question is do you think that ENG is as strong as previous years that GER won't pose much of a threat? If not, then why talk about the brackets unless you wanted an easier route to the final
Is England as strong as previous years? Simple answer no. But no team other than GER is as strong as previous years really. I only asked about the brackets as I was surprised England and France was on the same side. If this had happened in the previous years I'm sure any other captain would've asked the same question
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Yes, but that is because ENG and FRA have been clear finalists (As I think Herishey said earlier). This year not so much. So it doesn't HAVE to be ENG vs FRA final. And imo it shouldn't be if there aren't a clear 2 finalist teams.

Not that there's anything wrong with seeding the teams based on the strengths the admins think they have, as they did at the start of this tournament, but I think it's sounder to do it on the basis of a nation's placements in the previous tournament. However, I think that should have been done much earlier in the tournament - either before it began or in the first week or two - not after the groups were completed. The question we raised with the admins weeks ago was never about giving England the easiest route, only asking why ENG and FRA were on the same side of the bracket. We never had an issue facing GER, who many here have said they think are the strongest team, in the semis. As others have echoed though, it is rather late into the tournament to be suggesting such a change and only with the consent of a majority of captains is it reasonable to do so.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 10:51:57 pm
Spoiler

Its NWWC, the only tourney with any credibility left,  whoever wins wins. I asked Blitz not to make a fuss of the brackets but here we are.

We had a discussion about this 4 weeks ago and you asked me to inquire at the time, shortly afterwards you told me not to bother anymore and I haven't since.
4 weeks ago? why is it coming up now then?
No idea, ask the organisers LMAO. When we spoke about it they said they had no plans on changing it. Why they have decided to do it now is beyond me

My question is do you think that ENG is as strong as previous years that GER won't pose much of a threat? If not, then why talk about the brackets unless you wanted an easier route to the final
Is England as strong as previous years? Simple answer no. But no team other than GER is as strong as previous years really. I only asked about the brackets as I was surprised England and France was on the same side. If this had happened in the previous years I'm sure any other captain would've asked the same question
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Yes, but that is because ENG and FRA have been clear finalists (As I think Herishey said earlier). This year not so much. So it doesn't HAVE to be ENG vs FRA final. And imo it shouldn't be if there aren't a clear 2 finalist teams.

Not that there's anything wrong with seeding the teams based on the strengths the admins think they have, as they did at the start of this tournament, but I think it's sounder to do it on the basis of a nation's placements in the previous tournament. However, I think that should have been done much earlier in the tournament - either before it began or in the first week or two - not after the groups were completed. The question we raised with the admins weeks ago was never about giving England the easiest route, only asking why ENG and FRA were on the same side of the bracket. We never had an issue facing GER, who many here have said they think are the strongest team, in the semis. As others have echoed though, it is rather late into the tournament to be suggesting such a change and only with the consent of a majority of captains is it reasonable to do so.

So you think that an ENG team with 4 members who played in last years final, should be seeded as the favourite team along with FRA (who have a lot more members from previous years). That makes no sense to me, At the end of the day, previous years shouldn't come into it. And as you've said yourself, 'many' say GER is the strongest team, so they should be on one side of the bracket, and the other 2 competing teams be on the other.
The way you've explained how the teams are this year, is that there's 1 clear finalist (GER) and then 2 other teams competing to go into the final (FRA & ENG) right? so why would you put one of them against the strongest team in the semi finals. When they should fight each other to see who will go against the 'favourite'
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on April 14, 2022, 10:52:44 pm
Hertz you're trolling man
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 10:54:50 pm
Hertz you're trolling man
I started off trolling yeah, but the way they've explained it. Make them seem really stupid to me.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2022, 11:02:21 pm
The way you've explained how the teams are this year, is that there's 1 clear finalist (GER) and then 2 other teams competing to go into the final (FRA & ENG) right? so why would you put one of them against the strongest team in the semi finals. When they should fight each other to see who will go against the 'favourite'

No, I said no such thing and do not think that is true.

So you think that an ENG team with 4 members who played in last years final, should be seeded as the favourite team along with FRA (who have a lot more members from previous years). That makes no sense to me, At the end of the day, previous years shouldn't come into it.

It's a national tournament, the only sort of tournament where previous years are actually relevant. Yes, I think the two finalists from the previous year should be the top 2 seeds.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 11:09:07 pm
The way you've explained how the teams are this year, is that there's 1 clear finalist (GER) and then 2 other teams competing to go into the final (FRA & ENG) right? so why would you put one of them against the strongest team in the semi finals. When they should fight each other to see who will go against the 'favourite'

No, I said no such thing and do not think that is true.

So you think that an ENG team with 4 members who played in last years final, should be seeded as the favourite team along with FRA (who have a lot more members from previous years). That makes no sense to me, At the end of the day, previous years shouldn't come into it.

It's a national tournament, the only sort of tournament where previous years are actually relevant. Yes, I think the two finalists from the previous year should be the top 2 seeds.

Yes it is a national tournament, but as I said, 60% of your team wasn't in the NWWC final last year. And correct me if I'm wrong, 40% of your team has never played in an NWWC final at all. Therefore I don't think you can judge the teams by the same standing as previous years. As if you look at the previous ENG teams, it's pretty much the same since 2016/17. Same with the FRA team really. A few changes here and there. But not half (or over) the team.

Okay maybe not a 'Clear' front runner, but

We never had an issue facing GER, who many here have said they think are the strongest team, in the semis.
the use of 'many' would lead me to believe the majority of people competing in NWWC think the same. In which case my point still stands. GER should be on 1 side of the brackets, and ENG vs FRA the other.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 14, 2022, 11:23:38 pm
Yes it is a national tournament, but as I said, 60% of your team wasn't in the NWWC final last year. And correct me if I'm wrong, 40% of your team has never played in an NWWC final at all. Therefore I don't think you can judge the teams by the same standing as previous years. As if you look at the previous ENG teams, it's pretty much the same since 2016/17. Same with the FRA team really. A few changes here and there. But not half (or over) the team.

Okay maybe not a 'Clear' front runner, but

We never had an issue facing GER, who many here have said they think are the strongest team, in the semis.
the use of 'many' would lead me to believe the majority of people competing in NWWC think the same. In which case my point still stands. GER should be on 1 side of the brackets, and ENG vs FRA the other.

This is not a particularly relevant point for you to be hung up on in the context of what the admins have decided to do, but I will clarify once more.

Yes it is a national tournament, but as I said, 60% of your team wasn't in the NWWC final last year. And correct me if I'm wrong, 40% of your team has never played in an NWWC final at all. Therefore I don't think you can judge the teams by the same standing as previous years. As if you look at the previous ENG teams, it's pretty much the same since 2016/17. Same with the FRA team really. A few changes here and there. But not half (or over) the team.

It's about 50-50 in terms of the starting players this year for who has started in an NWWC finals in the past. How relevant that is in determining whether a national team should be afforded the same consideration for seeding as in the previous year (based on their finals placement) is a matter of opinion and not one where anyone can be 'right'. In a team competition, as I said in response to Melsyo, I think that point makes a lot of sense and I'd agree with you. In the context of a national tournament, where there is a constant factor (the nations do not change and the best players from that nation that are willing to play are playing), I don't find that logic as convincing. I think the seeding should be appropriate to each team's performance in the previous edition.

We never had an issue facing GER, who many here have said they think are the strongest team, in the semis.
the use of 'many' would lead me to believe the majority of people competing in NWWC think the same. In which case my point still stands. GER should be on 1 side of the brackets, and ENG vs FRA the other.

I said 'many here' referring to the arguments people were making on the forums, not to any consensus among NWWC captains or participants. I have little knowledge of what people think more broadly but you'd probably find most people consider ENG, FRA and GER to all be roughly equal. It is unfortunate to be in a format where one side of the bracket is going to be weighted unfavourably, no matter what decision is taken on this issue, as two of the three favourites will have to face each other prior to the finals. Really, this is an issue which should have been given more thought prior to the start of the tournament and not at the end of the group stages.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 11:34:28 pm
It's about 50-50 in terms of the starting players this year for who has started in an NWWC finals in the past. How relevant that is in determining whether a national team should be afforded the same consideration for seeding as in the previous year (based on their finals placement) is a matter of opinion and not one where anyone can be 'right'. In a team competition, as I said in response to Melsyo, I think that point makes a lot of sense and I'd agree with you. In the context of a national tournament, where there is a constant factor (the nations do not change and the best players from that nation that are willing to play are playing), I don't find that logic as convincing. I think the seeding should be appropriate to each team's performance in the previous edition.

Going back to my point earlier, 60% of your team didn't play in the final for last NWWC, so you're saying your seeding should be relevant to 6 other players who performed last year and aren't playing this year. That makes no sense.
And you saying that it's a national tournament shouldn't make seeding any different. If there were 2 favourite teams (like other years) they would be on different sides of the brackets. However, there seems to be 1 stronger team (or 3 equal teams, whichever way you want to spin it). Previous NWWCs should come into how seeding is done. It should be done on how teams performed in Groups.
Also I doubt ENG would have kicked up as fuss if it was GER vs FRA in the semi's. And I highly doubt FRA would too. (but this might be because of an ENG vs FRA final).

I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.

But saying previous years NWWC results should be taken into account when seeding the knockouts is stupid, when you even said yourself that half the team (starting lineup) is different.

Play the tournament how it was originally set, if ENG lose, it's not because you had a harder seed. It's because you weren't good enough. If you carry on trying to get an ENG vs FRA final, it's just gonna seem like you're trying to grab yourself a guaranteed silver. Which would be extremely sad.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Bagins on April 14, 2022, 11:52:11 pm
Imagine Eng players have been sat here continuing their own argument :feelsbadman:
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on April 14, 2022, 11:53:04 pm
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 14, 2022, 11:53:28 pm
Imagine Eng players have been sat here continuing their own argument :feelsbadman:
I'm not a player you numpty. Just trying to understand why your 2ic went behind you back, and also is trying to cheese a free silver.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 14, 2022, 11:57:06 pm
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
LETS GO
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 15, 2022, 12:00:59 am
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
Hope you're all good brother!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 15, 2022, 12:07:12 am
It's about 50-50 in terms of the starting players this year for who has started in an NWWC finals in the past. How relevant that is in determining whether a national team should be afforded the same consideration for seeding as in the previous year (based on their finals placement) is a matter of opinion and not one where anyone can be 'right'. In a team competition, as I said in response to Melsyo, I think that point makes a lot of sense and I'd agree with you. In the context of a national tournament, where there is a constant factor (the nations do not change and the best players from that nation that are willing to play are playing), I don't find that logic as convincing. I think the seeding should be appropriate to each team's performance in the previous edition.

Going back to my point earlier, 60% of your team didn't play in the final for last NWWC, so you're saying your seeding should be relevant to 6 other players who performed last year and aren't playing this year. That makes no sense.
And you saying that it's a national tournament shouldn't make seeding any different. If there were 2 favourite teams (like other years) they would be on different sides of the brackets. However, there seems to be 1 stronger team (or 3 equal teams, whichever way you want to spin it). Previous NWWCs should come into how seeding is done. It should be done on how teams performed in Groups.
Also I doubt ENG would have kicked up as fuss if it was GER vs FRA in the semi's. And I highly doubt FRA would too. (but this might be because of an ENG vs FRA final).

I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.

But saying previous years NWWC results should be taken into account when seeding the knockouts is stupid, when you even said yourself that half the team (starting lineup) is different.

Play the tournament how it was originally set, if ENG lose, it's not because you had a harder seed. It's because you weren't good enough. If you carry on trying to get an ENG vs FRA final, it's just gonna seem like you're trying to grab yourself a guaranteed silver. Which would be extremely sad.

Previous NWWCs have never seeded based on group performances, beyond placements set for 1st and 2nd place in each going into knockouts, and were always set to avoid FRA v ENG in semis. Whether you think that's right or not it's how it's been and imo the proper justification is to say it's on the basis of the previous year's results rather than the strength of the teams. I don't see why you think the perspective that national teams are different in terms of continuity (they are) than regular teams is odd, but as I said I think both points of view regarding that are valid.

I have never said I or anyone else from ENG won't play based on this setting. As others have mentioned, we asked the admins about it 3-5 weeks ago and never followed up - it is the administration that decided to resurface the issue after the group stage, not us trying to 'grab a guaranteed silver'. That doesn't even make sense anyway, since (again, as has been repeated several times), nobody ever said ENG ought to be on the opposite side of the bracket to GER, only to FRA.

swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby

My last few posts have not even been arguing in favour of a swap, just arguing against the idea that this is something anyone in the ENG team brought up to try and get an advantage.

Imagine Eng players have been sat here continuing their own argument :feelsbadman:
I'm not a player you numpty. Just trying to understand why your 2ic went behind you back, and also is trying to cheese a free silver.

Nobody went behind anyone's back. When we first saw that it would be FRA v ENG in the semis, we as a team were confused and asked the admins if it was intentional, why it was made that way and if they intended to change it (this being in week 1 or-so of the tournament). They said they wouldn't change it and we didn't follow up since then. Us being willing to play against GER in the semis and then into FRA in the finals should be enough to absolve you of the idea that anyone is trying to 'cheese a free silver', but you don't seem to have retained that information from my past few posts - seems more like you're just creating extra drama for drama's sake.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 15, 2022, 12:07:53 am
I'm surprised the votes were even - u'd have to be an absolute numpty to want to change the bracket considering the circumstances
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Bagins on April 15, 2022, 12:13:58 am
Gibby, we mates, but go to bed.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: MarxeiL on April 15, 2022, 12:15:31 am
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
Hope you're all good brother!
Soon coming back in Kyiv  :)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 15, 2022, 12:15:47 am
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
Hope you're all good brother!
Soon coming back in Kyiv  :)
Let's go!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: nIvan on April 15, 2022, 12:16:08 am
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
Hope you're all good brother!
Soon coming back in Kyiv  :)
Let's go!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: LEVIS on April 15, 2022, 12:17:16 am
swap wont happen cause votes are even, so don't bother anymore @Gibby
Hope you're all good brother!
Soon coming back in Kyiv  :)
Let's go!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 15, 2022, 12:37:46 am
Gibby, we mates, but go to bed.

Maybe you should stop letting slander against your teammates slide, even when you know it's not true and were one of the people questioning why ENG and FRA were on the same side of the bracket, just because it absolves you of any involvement; re:

Imagine Eng players have been sat here continuing their own argument :feelsbadman:
I'm not a player you numpty. Just trying to understand why your 2ic went behind you back, and also is trying to cheese a free silver.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 15, 2022, 12:46:03 am
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.

Play the tournament how it was originally set, if ENG lose, it's not because you had a harder seed. It's because you weren't good enough. If you carry on trying to get an ENG vs FRA final, it's just gonna seem like you're trying to grab yourself a guaranteed silver. Which would be extremely sad.
This is an exceedingly stupid post as when I spoke to marxiel about the whole thing I told him id rather play Germany, who has the better roster than FRA, in the semi's as it would give us a chance to get a FRA vs ENG final which is ultimately the only reason I inquired about this in the first place but as I've said previously I was told that nothing would change and I hadn't brought it up since.

Hertz, man, for someone who didn't want to play in England this year as you didn't want to play the game anymore, you seem to care way to much about something that doesn't even involve you.
The fact you are criticizing me so hard on leadership decisions when you yourself pussied out on leading England this year is really stupid, talking about "going behind backs" like you haven't always done this before.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Bagins on April 15, 2022, 12:49:01 am
 ::) -_-
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Desant on April 15, 2022, 01:10:11 am
lets go navi
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 15, 2022, 01:12:44 am
England out Wales in
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Bagins on April 15, 2022, 01:17:45 am
All I will say is that to respond to Hertz on FSE is like responding to Coco on steam. There's just no point.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Melsyo on April 15, 2022, 01:26:37 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YdrX4XG.png)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on April 15, 2022, 01:27:57 am
I like how when 2 people argue Fietta joins out of nowhere and starts choosing side

like who the fuck asked you to get involved

who asked
who cares
who invited you
what matter is it that to you

dumb cyber security guy(im not really sure if you are a guy or homo, homophobic girl gay , 3rd gender 4th gender whatever kind of creature you are)  that cant even handle Kali Linux basic tool of offensive security stuff  :-\ :-X
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on April 15, 2022, 01:29:11 am
All I will say is that to respond to Hertz on FSE is like responding to Coco on steam. There's just no point.
Damn, good post!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Bagins on April 15, 2022, 01:32:45 am
I like how when 2 people argue Fietta joins out of nowhere and starts choosing side

like who the fuck asked you to get involved

who asked
who cares
who invited you
what matter is it that to you

dumb cyber security guy that cant even handle Kali Linux basic tool of offensive security stuff  :-\ :-X

bro this is 90% of the community half of them still attend trenchbattle too
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 15, 2022, 01:34:40 am
TRENCHBATTLE IS SICK TF U MEAN?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 15, 2022, 01:45:20 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YdrX4XG.png)

Bit mean that :/
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Ry@n on April 15, 2022, 02:38:58 am
Man Gibby and Blitz u have too much free time what are these fat ass paragraphs
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Herishey on April 15, 2022, 02:41:28 am
next time when i organise EGS, I will redo the brackets after gs, just want to inform you in advance
Does that mean if I make a new team we won't have to fight Envy in the quarters every time we win our group? :o
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on April 15, 2022, 03:54:55 am
Man Gibby and Blitz u have too much free time what are these fat ass paragraphs
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 15, 2022, 10:31:33 am
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.

Play the tournament how it was originally set, if ENG lose, it's not because you had a harder seed. It's because you weren't good enough. If you carry on trying to get an ENG vs FRA final, it's just gonna seem like you're trying to grab yourself a guaranteed silver. Which would be extremely sad.
This is an exceedingly stupid post as when I spoke to marxiel about the whole thing I told him id rather play Germany, who has the better roster than FRA, in the semi's as it would give us a chance to get a FRA vs ENG final which is ultimately the only reason I inquired about this in the first place but as I've said previously I was told that nothing would change and I hadn't brought it up since.

Hertz, man, for someone who didn't want to play in England this year as you didn't want to play the game anymore, you seem to care way to much about something that doesn't even involve you.
The fact you are criticizing me so hard on leadership decisions when you yourself pussied out on leading England this year is really stupid, talking about "going behind backs" like you haven't always done this before.

Oh you mong, look at my second post.
“I’m here for memes”
I don’t give a shit about playing this game anymore. And you’re saying you don’t believe in all that 2ic be. But then in the same paragraph HAD to mention you were the original captain and bagins joined as 2ic. Simpleton.

Why does it matter about going against Germany in the semi’s?  (oH ThEy’Re A hArDeR TeAm) so you want to get a shit final by having to go against a ‘weaker’ team? That’s cap if I’ve ever heard it.
Filthy lil new gen captain wanting an easy guaranteed silver.
I had a decent discussion with the gibster. And now I’m just baiting you blitz because you make it too easy.

As bagins said, replying to me on FSE is stupid. (Especially with comments like ‘you pussied out of captaining England this year, or saying that I care too much about stuff) simple fact was it was said on teamspeak, and I said I wanted a bit of drama so I stuck my 50 pence in.

Enjoy your Easter break.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Dusbled on April 15, 2022, 11:16:51 am
I need some popcorn, this is great!

I am on Hertz's side btw^^  ;D
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 15, 2022, 11:18:35 am
I need some popcorn, this is great!

I am on Hertz's side btw^^  ;D
A German sides with logic, now that’s one for the ages  ;)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Shadey on April 15, 2022, 11:20:51 am
Can you mongs argue with less words? These paragraphs are exhausting
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 15, 2022, 11:21:52 am
Can you mongs argue with less words? These paragraphs are exhausting
They’re wrong, I’m right.

Case closed
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Dusbled on April 15, 2022, 11:29:23 am
I need some popcorn, this is great!

I am on Hertz's side btw^^  ;D
A German sides with logic, now that’s one for the ages  ;)

better mark it in the history books :D
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on April 15, 2022, 11:36:59 am
I like how when 2 people argue Fietta joins out of nowhere and starts choosing side

like who the fuck asked you to get involved

who asked
who cares
who invited you
what matter is it that to you

dumb cyber security guy that cant even handle Kali Linux basic tool of offensive security stuff  :-\ :-X

bro this is 90% of the community half of them still attend trenchbattle too
Preach!
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: higened243ed on April 15, 2022, 12:05:41 pm
y'all suck
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Muhataa on April 15, 2022, 12:28:45 pm
y'all suck
?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Gi on April 15, 2022, 04:32:38 pm
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.
SERIOUS second in command energy
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Alf on April 15, 2022, 04:42:02 pm
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.
SERIOUS second in command energy
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: maskmanmarks on April 15, 2022, 04:49:07 pm
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.
SERIOUS second in command energy
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Phailur on April 15, 2022, 05:16:02 pm
What does Rikkert have to say?
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: BlackBeard on April 15, 2022, 06:21:21 pm
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.
well as boring as the argument was blitz you've really started to come out of the closet these past few weeks. getting involed in the team banter getting in arguments on fse over nothing, i'm surpised you manged to have an argument with hertz though, since hes been busy making sure his lass aint jilling to photos of axiom  :o but you're really starting to prove your self as a ENG captain, dont get me wrong i had my doubts about you. dont know what it was but you also came across as a bit of a faggot  ??? but since you've stopped giving gibby rim jobs 3 times a day you have made progress so well done spaz. im proud of you. 
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: R1bazZz on April 15, 2022, 06:24:35 pm
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.jpg)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Melsyo on April 15, 2022, 06:26:11 pm
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.jpg)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 15, 2022, 06:27:44 pm
I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.
well as boring as the argument was blitz you've really started to come out of the closet these past few weeks. getting involed in the team banter getting in arguments on fse over nothing, i'm surpised you manged to have an argument with hertz though, since hes been busy making sure his lass aint jilling to photos of axiom  :o but you're really starting to prove your self as a ENG captain, dont get me wrong i had my doubts about you. dont know what it was but you also came across as a bit of a faggot  ??? but since you've stopped giving gibby rim jobs 3 times a day you have made progress so well done spaz. im proud of you.

The photos of axiom were too much! I couldn't keep her from it

I honestly don't see why the brackets are up for debate. And by the sounds of it, it was made by a 2ic that was going against what he was told to do.
Gonna make this very clear. I was the original captain for England this year and Bagins joined as the 2ic. Not the other way around. I personally don't believe in all that 2ic bs anyways as we both do our jobs where our jobs are needed.
SERIOUS second in command energy
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Knightmare on April 15, 2022, 10:38:30 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ccHTKm2.jpg)
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: DayBoul on April 15, 2022, 11:32:30 pm
What does Rikkert have to say?
i wanna hear it. Only he can out-paragraph gibby and say less than him at the same time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Kore on April 16, 2022, 01:50:53 am
What does Rikkert have to say?
i wanna hear it. Only he can out-paragraph gibby and say less than him at the same time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Vegi. on April 16, 2022, 10:20:04 am
What does Rikkert have to say?
i wanna hear it. Only he can out-paragraph gibby and say less than him at the same time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Hertz on April 16, 2022, 11:39:46 am
What does Rikkert have to say?
i wanna hear it. Only he can out-paragraph gibby and say less than him at the same time
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Tardet on April 16, 2022, 11:56:45 am
Man Gibby and Blitz u have too much free time what are these fat ass paragraphs
They are merely amateurs.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Fietta on April 16, 2022, 01:14:44 pm
Man Gibby and Blitz u have too much free time what are these fat ass paragraphs
They are merely amateurs.

I miss my native paragraphs
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Nock on April 16, 2022, 03:23:01 pm
Man Gibby and Blitz u have too much free time what are these fat ass paragraphs
They are merely amateurs.
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Moi~ on April 22, 2022, 08:49:59 am
Damn I just checked FSE after weeks, I'll just say:

Yes I made the brackets
No I didn't come up with the swap idea but liked it and made my case
Yes I consulted it with the organisers and a couple people
No it wasn't an accident and I don't regret it

I won't elaborate not to agitate the argument more but I'll say some people in this thread have made the very same claims in favor I had in mind when deciding the final. But I also don't value my own opinion over that of the entire community so when complains arose regarding it I was also the organiser most willing to discuss it. In any case I'm glad it's settled and I'm happy people will appreciate we had the balls to make this year different. (No I'm not being shallow I just don't want to get into details (again))

Big sowwy bois
Title: Re: NWWC 2022 | Overview
Post by: Phailur on April 22, 2022, 05:52:35 pm
ENGLAND LOOOOOOOSERS