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Dueling Guide
Dueling: Think of dueling in its purest form as a game of pingpong. Player One attacks and Player Two counters, then Player One has an option to counter Player Twos counter and so on and so forth. Thus the true meta of dueling is learning how to counter counters.
This is done with primary stuns. Although during the course of a duel the enemy player will also be fainting or holding their attacks and you will be attempting to counter their holds or feints by trying to use secondary counters to punish them. You will run into players who will not want to throw attacks and will attempt to hold for prolonged periods of time and then either wait to do a secondary counter on you or simply stab into your block after much holding. Ie. Drake is a good example of a player who utilizes this method. In order to combat that you must be able to learn to constantly spam players and be prepared to primary stun whenever they attempt to secondary counter you.
My meta is broken down first into a general 3 step system.
1. Throw attack at enemies block
2. Primary stun
3. Repeat until the enemy dies.
Secondary stunts are useful and have their place, however they entertain more risk leaving you open to getting one shotted and are sometimes inconsistent due to a variety of factors that make them inferior to a primary stun.
So the next thing is within my meta there are techniques and in order to use those techniques you need to understand the details that make them work.
What options do you have when you're holding an attack on the enemy's block?
Stab their block and bait them into a primary stun. Also it tends to be the case that either the enemy is able to successfully counter you but you kill them with a primary stun, or the stabs that you will tend to throw in order to do a successful primary stun are the same kind of stabs that are extremely difficult to secondary stun in the first place. Leading them to a catch-22 where they will either die if they counter you, or they will die attempting to counter you.
What options do you have when the enemy is holding upstab and keeping range like Drake?
Throw a block up then down, attack then throw the block up again.
What options do you have when the enemy is fientspamming like extazz?
Stab right into them but make sure you are looking down far enough that your not stabbing directly into their hitbox so they can stun you. You only need a very small amount of space for the attack to make that swish noise and enable your primary stuns and fastblocks.
What options do you have when the enemy stunblocks you?
What options do you have when an enemy blockchambers you?
Instant Chamber, Forcepoke, Instant feint
What options do you have when enemy is trying to fientchamber you?
Same things mentioned above
What options do you have when the enemy is trying to regular chamber you?
Same things mentioned above
What to do when you're holding a block on the enemy?
You can go for a blockchamber with the recovery feint as a backup.
You can go for a feint chamber
However you can simply hold a block wait for them to stab then throw a stab yourself baiting a primary stun
What options are open to you after you stab a block?
Normal Fastblock
Instant Feint block
Instant Feint attack
Instant Chamber
Instant Chamber into block
What are the biggest mistakes you can make in dueling?
Stabbing against the block or throwing a long stab. Stabs should be thrown in between the arms of the enemy and as soon as you release the stab and hear the noise of the swish flick into the enemies block. This prevents you from stunning yourself for a long time that will lead to your death. It also prevents you from poking against them.
Stabbing then blocking. You should always be queuing up the next attack as soon as you release your lmb because that enables instant chambers, instant fients, and fastblocks.
Important Terminology and technical details to enable the techniques *See MindMap* https://mm.tt/1961745016?t=XRSJCfiQ4q
Primary Stuns: Instant Feints, Instant Chambers
Secondary Stuns: Block Chambers, Feint Chambers, Regular Chamber, Stunblock, Recovery Feint
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Video guide i think
lol i cant spell
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:What options do you have when the enemy is holding upstab and keeping range like Drake?" you're from NA and you say drake pfft sellout...nigga ill shit on "drake"
Throw a block up then down, attack then throw the block up again.
Bill will you train me
quit mentioning EU people in duel guides they are ass
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Dueling Guide
*Lessons*
If you want to contact me about the price of a private lesson message me on steam. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121697603/
Value added: I am a player of almost eight years with thousands of hours of teaching and coaching under my belt that has allowed me a great technical and mechanical knowledge of the game. Primary stuns which I now consider my bread and butter of my dueling is a recent innovation I have made that has allowed me to dominate dueling. The information I can give will certainly boost your dueling dramatically or your money back if your unsatisfied.
got to milk a dead game
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what happens when you just good at game and dont think about the complicated things?
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what happens when you just good at game and dont think about the complicated things?
shushh don't ask questions
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Was this the guide that got deleted once
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Was this the guide that got deleted once
Nope that was a different one
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what happens when you just good at game and dont think about the complicated things?
It means your simply goated
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:What options do you have when the enemy is holding upstab and keeping range like Drake?" you're from NA and you say drake pfft sellout...nigga ill shit on "drake"
Throw a block up then down, attack then throw the block up again.
Bill will you train me
quit mentioning EU people in duel guides they are ass
Well because other than Suns there are no Top NA duelists who play like drake so its for those EUs who deal with the memers like drake.
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How much for lessons?
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anthony needs groupfighting lessons
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you cringers actually think about this shit? i just click m1 and people die lol
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I think it's pointless to write this in a game where these duels ceased to have any meaning back in 2018, and precisely because this is a duel there is no specific game plan against anyone, everyone has their own style, the essence lies only in certain moments of the game, and not in *step by step* instructions
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I think it's pointless to write this in a game where these duels ceased to have any meaning back in 2018, and precisely because this is a duel there is no specific game plan against anyone, everyone has their own style, the essence lies only in certain moments of the game, and not in *step by step* instructions
your mom lol
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Dueling is dead unfortunately. I’ll try and revive it again if I have to
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I think it's pointless to write this in a game where these duels ceased to have any meaning back in 2018, and precisely because this is a duel there is no specific game plan against anyone, everyone has their own style, the essence lies only in certain moments of the game, and not in *step by step* instructions
your mom lol
can i ask you who are you ? :)
P.S it was because of such idiots that I left NW, who did not achieve anything on gf/duel stage, but do allow statements in my address
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Anthony drops a goated guide and the people brush it off their shoulder smhhh
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Dueling is dead unfortunately. I’ll try and revive it again if I have to
#bring back NW UFC
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It's a bit strange to bring tactics into NW dueling for me I feel.
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I think it's pointless to write this in a game where these duels ceased to have any meaning back in 2018, and precisely because this is a duel there is no specific game plan against anyone, everyone has their own style, the essence lies only in certain moments of the game, and not in *step by step* instructions
your mom lol
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Reminder this guy literally stalled a duel for 5 minutes until the round ended against cwater so his team wouldn’t lose the round
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If it'd like ping pong you're dueling wrong... Genuine advice, control the duel and always have a stab so you can be on the aggressive.
After you stab if the opponent tries to counter, take 2 steps back and hold another stab or sidestep their counter.
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You forgot autoblock ;)
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You forgot autoblock ;)
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I read this in detail
I'm master duel now
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If it'd like ping pong you're dueling wrong... Genuine advice, control the duel and always have a stab so you can be on the aggressive.
After you stab if the opponent tries to counter, take 2 steps back and hold another stab or sidestep their counter.
I’d like to see u ft7 Anthony
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If it'd like ping pong you're dueling wrong... Genuine advice, control the duel and always have a stab so you can be on the aggressive.
After you stab if the opponent tries to counter, take 2 steps back and hold another stab or sidestep their counter.
I’d like to see u ft7 Anthony
I've have fought anthony plenty of times and we've done ft7's, what is that anything to do with what im saying...
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If it'd like ping pong you're dueling wrong... Genuine advice, control the duel and always have a stab so you can be on the aggressive.
After you stab if the opponent tries to counter, take 2 steps back and hold another stab or sidestep their counter.
I’d like to see u ft7 Anthony
I've have fought anthony plenty of times and we've done ft7's, what is that anything to do with what im saying...
just cos hes 1000 times better at duelling. Not talking shit but just dunno why youd be giving advice on dueling
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Let dueling die, it’s the cause of all the egos
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If it'd like ping pong you're dueling wrong... Genuine advice, control the duel and always have a stab so you can be on the aggressive.
After you stab if the opponent tries to counter, take 2 steps back and hold another stab or sidestep their counter.
I’d like to see u ft7 Anthony
I've have fought anthony plenty of times and we've done ft7's, what is that anything to do with what im saying...
Yeah we fought a while back but I think that was back in like precovid when we were in the 18th. Its only been in the past 8 months and especially in the past 3 months ive hit my peak in dueling.
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If it'd like ping pong you're dueling wrong... Genuine advice, control the duel and always have a stab so you can be on the aggressive.
After you stab if the opponent tries to counter, take 2 steps back and hold another stab or sidestep their counter.
I’d like to see u ft7 Anthony
I've have fought anthony plenty of times and we've done ft7's, what is that anything to do with what im saying...
Yeah we fought a while back but I think that was back in like precovid when we were in the 18th. Its only been in the past 8 months and especially in the past 3 months ive hit my peak in dueling.
oof ye its been a while! but think you should consider what i'm saying as it's what a lot of the best duelers do on EU :)
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Let dueling die, it’s the cause of all the egos
Yes, no one has an ego about groupfighting
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Let dueling die, it’s the cause of all the egos
Yes, no one has an ego about groupfighting
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You forgot autoblock ;)
I would like to say once again to all you autoblockers out there cwater, Matthew, godfreid, piktons the list goes on etc...suck my hairy white asshole
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Just spam lol
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How to win duel, S key till they RQ
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How to win duel, S key till they RQ
nu just jab jab jab, uppercut, left hook, punch chamber, right hook, jab boom dead
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How to win duel, S key till they RQ
nu just jab jab jab, uppercut, left hook, punch chamber, right hook, jab boom dead
we need a fistfighting tournament
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
Anthony has always been a helper of less skilled players, he used to train them on the daily, I believe this is more for his "time" as it is so limited, he wants money if he's gonna make a large effort on someone.
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Help me pls il pay 100 euro
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
That's the American #Grindset that you don't have, weak ass pussy. You're patting yourself on the back for spending hours of your valuable (maybe not in your case) time training players for free? Couldn't be my boy tony. You know why nobody is paying for your lessons? Because you fuckin suck bro, not fuckin good enough. Hop in the #AnthonyAcademy and maybe you would finally start seeing some results in this game.
How is it a scam if he's telling you upfront that you have to pay for it? Go back to virtue signaling on facebook #SoyBoy this forum is for the #Grinders. Hop off these forums, go get lean, buy some nice clothes, and get a nice haircut to accentuate your facial features. You're welcome bro, #SeeYouAtTheTop
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
That's the American #Grindset that you don't have, weak ass pussy. You're patting yourself on the back for spending hours of your valuable (maybe not in your case) time training players for free? Couldn't be my boy tony. You know why nobody is paying for your lessons? Because you fuckin suck bro, not fuckin good enough. Hop in the #AnthonyAcademy and maybe you would finally start seeing some results in this game.
How is it a scam if he's telling you upfront that you have to pay for it? Go back to virtue signaling on facebook #SoyBoy this forum is for the #Grinders. Hop off these forums, go get lean, buy some nice clothes, and get a nice haircut to accentuate your facial features. You're welcome bro, #SeeYouAtTheTop
Beyond basedmeal
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Scumbag.
You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
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smh, americans
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@anthony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQc4LbbRus
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Mustard > hertz
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
That's the American #Grindset that you don't have, weak ass pussy. You're patting yourself on the back for spending hours of your valuable (maybe not in your case) time training players for free? Couldn't be my boy tony. You know why nobody is paying for your lessons? Because you fuckin suck bro, not fuckin good enough. Hop in the #AnthonyAcademy and maybe you would finally start seeing some results in this game.
How is it a scam if he's telling you upfront that you have to pay for it? Go back to virtue signaling on facebook #SoyBoy this forum is for the #Grinders. Hop off these forums, go get lean, buy some nice clothes, and get a nice haircut to accentuate your facial features. You're welcome bro, #SeeYouAtTheTop
This guy fucks
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If you’re good at something don’t do it for free
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Block until you get a stunchamber, ez win
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Help me pls il pay 100 euro
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Block until you get a stunchamber, ez win
What if I throw stabs in such a way you can only chamber them, then I rechamber your counter and kill u? F
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i dont have money but i do suck cock pretty well 45thM leadership can confirm
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i dont have money but i do suck cock pretty well 45thM leadership can confirm
can confirm this
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i dont have money but i do suck cock pretty well 45thM leadership can confirm
can confirm this
what a slut smh
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tony we get that you failed no-fap but could you at least try and stop yourself from mentally masturbating over warband so hard that you cum out posts like this
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tony we get that you failed no-fap but could you at least try and stop yourself from mentally masturbating over warband so hard that you cum out posts like this
shut up yoomba
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tony we get that you failed no-fap but could you at least try and stop yourself from mentally masturbating over warband so hard that you cum out posts like this
shut up yoomba
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paying for nw tutoring is like having someone teach you how to tie your shoelaces
just stun the other players dumbass
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Can you teach me how to beat cytiuz?
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
Advice, you mean shit on them?
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Hireaper spending most of his student loan for lessons to get out of tier 8
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Hireaper spending most of his student loan for lessons to get out of tier 8
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Hireaper spending most of his student loan for lessons to get out of tier 8
DOGNEIL
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Block until you get a stunchamber, ez win
What if I throw stabs in such a way you can only chamber them, then I rechamber your counter and kill u? F
Then I simply don't stab. Isn't that the way @Unicorn?
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Block until you get a stunchamber, ez win
What if I throw stabs in such a way you can only chamber them, then I rechamber your counter and kill u? F
Then I simply don't stab. Isn't that the way @Unicorn?
Just chamber and s key. Ez
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
Advice, you mean shit on them?
No I mean giving advice
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Can you teach me how to beat cytiuz?
Toxic. Can we get this guy banned plz?
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i dont have money but i do suck cock pretty well 45thM leadership can confirm
can confirm this
what a slut smh
i know ur gae but dont be jelaous
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What is this?
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A price for NW lessons? What the fuck lmao
Also a very wise man told me to tell you “drop NW, the work of shaytaan”
No job
NW obsession
No fap challenger failed on Christmas
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A price for NW lessons? What the fuck lmao
Also a very wise man told me to tell you “drop NW, the work of shaytaan”
No job
NW obsession
No fap challenger failed on Christmas
The pay is based off of the perceived value, if I spend 1 hour with you and you feel you learned nothing of value you can gladly pay me a total of 0 dollars and 0 cents. 8)
But I mean your gonna be balling in dueling so if thats what you want I dare you to make it seems that the stuff I can show you for dueling is junk. 8)
However for someone who wants to get really good at dueling, fight hireaper he has learned all my methods and I bet with 100ping he will have any player on the ropes.
thats proof enough if you want the knowledge to be good at dueling its worth something. I spent a long time simplifying and learning the game to make dueling easy for anyone to pick up. Therefore I know my stuff is good.
Ask anyone who has spent time training dueling with me.
And again if you wanna train and you feel that you wont use the principals and techniques I use again I am not trying to scam you. Its up to the player how much they want to pay depending on the value they got from the time spent with me.
If you build a skill and get really good at something and can provide value for people. Dont do yourself the disservice of not valuing your time and expertise.
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Fair play trying to help people out. I take my hat off to you for that. But trying to make money out of it. Scumbag.
I give out advice where I can to less skilled players. Don’t see me trying to scam them out of money. You should be ashamed of yourself Anthony.
Advice, you mean shit on them?
No I mean giving advice
I have trained a LOT of people and spent a lot of hours doing that for free. I still train people who are my friends for free. But if someone wants to get a hour of my time and after what I show them they will instantly have all the tools they need to get better.
The thing is my dueling style gives you a informational advantage over other players. If you have basic mechanical skills you can learn it within a day and master it within under 3 months. Thus you really only need 1 hour or less to gain all the knowledge ive spent thousands of hours refining into the most simple and efficient methods.
Its nothing fancy, but its really good and it works. If you dont believe that we can duel and that will be proof in itself that a guy with 120ping will outchamber and outstun you and nullify any stuns you throw at me.
Or you can fight a friend of mine on EU with the same meta I use.
And the thing is you can learn all I have to show so quickly that whatever you spend is one time and you got something that took me years to learn and master.
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A price for NW lessons? What the fuck lmao
Also a very wise man told me to tell you “drop NW, the work of shaytaan”
No job
NW obsession
No fap challenger failed on Christmas
The pay is based off of the perceived value, if I spend 1 hour with you and you feel you learned nothing of value you can gladly pay me a total of 0 dollars and 0 cents. 8)
But I mean your gonna be balling in dueling so if thats what you want I dare you to make it seems that the stuff I can show you for dueling is junk. 8)
However for someone who wants to get really good at dueling, fight hireaper he has learned all my methods and I bet with 100ping he will have any player on the ropes.
thats proof enough if you want the knowledge to be good at dueling its worth something. I spent a long time simplifying and learning the game to make dueling easy for anyone to pick up. Therefore I know my stuff is good.
Ask anyone who has spent time training dueling with me.
And again if you wanna train and you feel that you wont use the principals and techniques I use again I am not trying to scam you. Its up to the player how much they want to pay depending on the value they got from the time spent with me.
If you build a skill and get really good at something and can provide value for people. Dont do yourself the disservice of not valuing your time and expertise.
It took you years to master a two attack directional game? Good lord.
Please drop NW and go take care of your family. Actually delusional. I’m not even trying to be rude but man you actually need some help.
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You forgot autoblock ;)
I would like to say once again to all you autoblockers out there cwater, Matthew, godfreid, piktons the list goes on etc...suck my hairy white asshole
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg)
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You forgot autoblock ;)
I would like to say once again to all you autoblockers out there cwater, Matthew, godfreid, piktons the list goes on etc...suck my hairy white asshole
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg)
Stryker’s just mad that he wasn’t added to the auto-blocker list after laying the smack down on Bill.
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You forgot autoblock ;)
I would like to say once again to all you autoblockers out there cwater, Matthew, godfreid, piktons the list goes on etc...suck my hairy white asshole
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg)
dude cwater got on here but i didnt
bruh
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Vetro go back to your gf and donuts n00b
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You forgot autoblock ;)
I would like to say once again to all you autoblockers out there cwater, Matthew, godfreid, piktons the list goes on etc...suck my hairy white asshole
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg)
dude cwater got on here but i didnt
bruh
Delaying duels ≠ auto-blocking
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Vetro go back to your gf and donuts n00b
Nickcole dont you be talkin...
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Nice to see the NAs are still a mess
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Nice to see the NAs are still a mess
A beautiful mess we are
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Nice to see the NAs are still a mess
A beautiful mess we are
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You forgot autoblock ;)
I would like to say once again to all you autoblockers out there cwater, Matthew, godfreid, piktons the list goes on etc...suck my hairy white asshole
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg)
dude cwater got on here but i didnt
bruh
Delaying duels ≠ auto-blocking
Noob Anthony
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Anthony teaching these noobs how to block:
https://youtu.be/j1HKE_NSa0Y