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Title: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 19, 2021, 08:30:15 am
Your thoughts?

Rip champions league win for ManCity

https://youtu.be/2eB9kLUsl7g

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1383910597155164160?s=20
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: [2ndHess] lukasoh on April 19, 2021, 08:39:55 am
Your thoughts?

Rip champions league win for ManCity
I support a german 3rd league club and a low class Bundesliga Club. I cant remember when I watched my last Championsleague or Euroleague match. I dont give a fuck what 12 or 15 super rich clubs will do and how much money they will have. The top 4-5 leagues will loose prestige and all, but the leagues will be more interesting. The biggest loosers are the fans of the super League clubs who cant watch all the matches in the stadium as they cant fly to Manchester/Madrid every other weekend.
My only problem is that the players will probably get banned from world cup and European Championship. But as its about money they will find a solution anyway.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Golden. on April 19, 2021, 09:57:12 am
Its an absolute joke.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 19, 2021, 09:58:38 am
Not really for it but equally not against the body that made it either. Realistically UEFA are all about the money, so will this new super league be. I don't like the fact that 15-20 teams will be in the superleague every year though for me that ruins a lot of the fun of it. There are also so many more minor things around this that will make it really shit and strange at first.

I also have no ide around the 5 teams that are meant to 'qualify' how they'd decide this and if they're teams that also qualify for the Champions League how in the hell they plan to work that one out.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Chainsor on April 19, 2021, 10:03:40 am
Its just sad to see what happens to european football. Im happy that the german teams are not part of the current 12 founding teams. 3 more teams are planned to be founding teams aswell. Teams like PSG, Bayern, Dortmund or Leipzig are missing. I'm not sure but I heard somewhere that German teams are not planning in attending the super league, which gives me at least some hope.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 19, 2021, 10:04:28 am
Bayern & Dortmund have at least rejected it so far yes, not sure about others.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 19, 2021, 11:29:27 am
What a day lol rip mourinho
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Eamon on April 19, 2021, 02:19:37 pm
Mourinho fired for not taking Daniel Levys side on supporting a superleague guaranteed. Jose for the people
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: ClaSh on April 19, 2021, 02:21:24 pm
PSG finally won the UCL
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 19, 2021, 02:50:42 pm
PSG finally won the UCL
impressive win, what fans were waiting for
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 19, 2021, 02:59:58 pm
Good to see the german clubs and PSG not partaking.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 19, 2021, 03:11:50 pm
Inb4 Ajax and PSV take their place.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 19, 2021, 03:18:08 pm
Inb4 Ajax and PSV take their place.
lmao they'd get destroyed every week so I doubt it. I'd also hope that people like van de Sar, Overmars, Blind etc would be against it and convince the board not to do it.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Keita on April 19, 2021, 06:38:53 pm
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the yankees are here to take over
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: carlitos on April 19, 2021, 06:43:37 pm
Basically a UCL with a league format ruled by the top teams instead of being ruled by corrupted UEFA, i dont see whats wrong with that.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Dusbled on April 19, 2021, 06:51:38 pm
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Harford on April 19, 2021, 07:03:51 pm
yea UEFA is corrupt and stuff, but this superleague isnt the answer, it will do nothing but to take everything wrong with today's football to a whole new level
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Kraz on April 19, 2021, 07:35:30 pm
football is sad to watch anyway
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: BlueMoon_IT on April 19, 2021, 08:27:28 pm
Say no to the Super League, especially when the creator is a corrupt figure like Andrea Agnelli. He couldnt cope not winning the CL so he created this money garbage league.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: sidney crosby on April 19, 2021, 08:29:38 pm
trash
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Chainsor on April 19, 2021, 08:29:45 pm
What a day lol rip mourinho

"According to reports, Spurs fired Jose Mourinho after an explosive morning where he refused to take players onto training ground over the club's proposed European Super League admission."

nice
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: R1bazZz on April 19, 2021, 08:39:21 pm
they are gona destroy Football also Mourinho is trying to break records for most fired in football teams we love to see it
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: BlueMoon_IT on April 19, 2021, 08:47:05 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/jIuxAw8.jpg)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Phil The Thril on April 19, 2021, 10:01:47 pm
just watch hockey instead u dumbfucks
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Tigere on April 19, 2021, 10:25:00 pm
just watch hockey instead u dumbfucks
Get some help
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: StockholmDE on April 19, 2021, 10:41:54 pm
Good to see the german clubs and PSG not partaking.
I would bet that PSG and Leipzig will participate. The only top clubs I believe will not participate in are Bayern and Dortmund.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 19, 2021, 10:45:41 pm
Basically a UCL with a league format ruled by the top teams instead of being ruled by corrupted UEFA, i dont see whats wrong with that.

Football has always been a working class sport.

Scottish football suffered due to the pandemic and clubs encouraged fans that could afford to, to pay their season tickets to keep cash generating for the club, many did and they knew that they wouldn't see many, if any games. I'm assuming that campaigns like this went on around europe with fans continuing to support the team that is important and probably local to them. This would be a major kick in the teeth to those fans. Its not about the prestige of "winning" its literally for tv money.

UEFA may be corrupt (no more than fifa) but this isn't the way forward. It'll make a small handful of people a lot of money but doesn't do anything for the actual fans or benefit the game.

All clubs should be against this but many will see the bottom lines and get greedy.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Janne on April 19, 2021, 10:48:27 pm
just watch hockey instead u dumbfucks
based
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: fruitocino on April 20, 2021, 12:07:50 am
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Fartknocker on April 20, 2021, 01:56:13 am
This is the most American thing European sports has ever done. I am quite impressed. Bad idea tho I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Phil The Thril on April 20, 2021, 07:55:30 am
I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: [2ndHess] lukasoh on April 20, 2021, 08:32:48 am
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: ItsAlex on April 20, 2021, 08:46:02 am
(https://assets.change.org/photos/3/yu/zb/tMYUzbraNlbVcaD-800x450-noPad.jpg?1618770548)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Glenn on April 20, 2021, 09:36:40 am
can’t wait for people to say “Messi played in a tinpot cup called the Champions league that’s why he’s not the goat” in 50 years
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 10:03:21 am
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.
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Only the point you made about hype in the first part is relevant to the Super League to be honest. The rest is on UEFA.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Phil The Thril on April 20, 2021, 10:06:26 am
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.
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Responding in order

1. While I agree that having two great teams face each other only occasionally as opposed to every week does add more to the occasion I also think that having a league where the greatest teams in the world play constantly isn't exactly a boring idea. However, I wholeheartedly disagree with your underdog point, sure there is some novelty in smaller clubs being matched up against huge clubs in the semifinal rounds but these matches almost always amount to nothing as in the end the large club will almost always prevail. Even if the smaller clubs do pull off an upset they just move on to get shit stomped by the next elite club. Maybe it's just my Americanized way of thinking about sports but football/soccer's lack of parity is one of the most annoying things about trying to watch any of the euro leagues because it is always the same 10-15 teams always winning their leagues and the UCL.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong because I am just talking out of my ass for this point but isn't the only reason that the players can't play in the world cup due to FIFA digging their heels in? I get them not wanting to budge on this issue as it is one of the biggest leverage points against the super league but if the super league's launch is a success I doubt it will be long before fans turn on FIFA and start demanding that they allow super league players back in especially since the super league plans to launch next summer and the WC is in the winter. Personally, I just can't see FIFA holding their ground on this issue if the super league manages to be successful.

3. Again my Americanized way of viewing sports may have tainted my view of this issue, but I really couldn't give less of a fuck about fans not being able to see their team live especially at away games. I get that England/Germany/Spain/Italy/France are all tiny countries where everything is just a short train ride away, and being able to see your team away from home on a regular basis is cool. But if not being able to see them away is actually hurting the fan culture then I question how great the culture was, to begin with.

4. Yeah I agree that having leagues that allow teams to have infinite spending power and build super teams that will eventually form a new league with each other to further increase profits and fuck over the old leagues kinda sucks. Salary caps are based.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Hawkince on April 20, 2021, 10:31:36 am
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.
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Responding in order

1. While I agree that having two great teams face each other only occasionally as opposed to every week does add more to the occasion I also think that having a league where the greatest teams in the world play constantly isn't exactly a boring idea. However, I wholeheartedly disagree with your underdog point, sure there is some novelty in smaller clubs being matched up against huge clubs in the semifinal rounds but these matches almost always amount to nothing as in the end the large club will almost always prevail. Even if the smaller clubs do pull off an upset they just move on to get shit stomped by the next elite club. Maybe it's just my Americanized way of thinking about sports but football/soccer's lack of parity is one of the most annoying things about trying to watch any of the euro leagues because it is always the same 10-15 teams always winning their leagues and the UCL.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong because I am just talking out of my ass for this point but isn't the only reason that the players can't play in the world cup due to FIFA digging their heels in? I get them not wanting to budge on this issue as it is one of the biggest leverage points against the super league but if the super league's launch is a success I doubt it will be long before fans turn on FIFA and start demanding that they allow super league players back in especially since the super league plans to launch next summer and the WC is in the winter. Personally, I just can't see FIFA holding their ground on this issue if the super league manages to be successful.

3. Again my Americanized way of viewing sports may have tainted my view of this issue, but I really couldn't give less of a fuck about fans not being able to see their team live especially at away games. I get that England/Germany/Spain/Italy/France are all tiny countries where everything is just a short train ride away, and being able to see your team away from home on a regular basis is cool. But if not being able to see them away is actually hurting the fan culture then I question how great the culture was, to begin with.

4. Yeah I agree that having leagues that allow teams to have infinite spending power and build super teams that will eventually form a new with each other to further increase profits and fuck over the old leagues kinda sucks. Salary caps are based.

This is not a based take
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: BabyJesus on April 20, 2021, 10:34:13 am
Why cant the players play in the World Cup?
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 10:41:08 am
There are talks of banning those partaking in the SuperLeague from UEFA events entirely which includes the World Cup/Euros.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Phil The Thril on April 20, 2021, 10:44:43 am
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.
[close]
Responding in order

1. While I agree that having two great teams face each other only occasionally as opposed to every week does add more to the occasion I also think that having a league where the greatest teams in the world play constantly isn't exactly a boring idea. However, I wholeheartedly disagree with your underdog point, sure there is some novelty in smaller clubs being matched up against huge clubs in the semifinal rounds but these matches almost always amount to nothing as in the end the large club will almost always prevail. Even if the smaller clubs do pull off an upset they just move on to get shit stomped by the next elite club. Maybe it's just my Americanized way of thinking about sports but football/soccer's lack of parity is one of the most annoying things about trying to watch any of the euro leagues because it is always the same 10-15 teams always winning their leagues and the UCL.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong because I am just talking out of my ass for this point but isn't the only reason that the players can't play in the world cup due to FIFA digging their heels in? I get them not wanting to budge on this issue as it is one of the biggest leverage points against the super league but if the super league's launch is a success I doubt it will be long before fans turn on FIFA and start demanding that they allow super league players back in especially since the super league plans to launch next summer and the WC is in the winter. Personally, I just can't see FIFA holding their ground on this issue if the super league manages to be successful.

3. Again my Americanized way of viewing sports may have tainted my view of this issue, but I really couldn't give less of a fuck about fans not being able to see their team live especially at away games. I get that England/Germany/Spain/Italy/France are all tiny countries where everything is just a short train ride away, and being able to see your team away from home on a regular basis is cool. But if not being able to see them away is actually hurting the fan culture then I question how great the culture was, to begin with.

4. Yeah I agree that having leagues that allow teams to have infinite spending power and build super teams that will eventually form a new with each other to further increase profits and fuck over the old leagues kinda sucks. Salary caps are based.

This is not a based take
care to elaborate big guy?
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Keita on April 20, 2021, 10:49:05 am
can't lie, im pro super league

Spoiler
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Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 20, 2021, 11:28:01 am
can't lie, im pro super league

Spoiler
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Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: [2ndHess] lukasoh on April 20, 2021, 11:40:03 am
For me, football in TV is cool and all, but supporting my club in the stadium with the away fans on the other side, singing and celebrating with all the other fans is the real football experience.
It doesnt matter if its not the UEFA or on the Super League, the consquences stay the same.
And I am pro salary cap.
But anyway this whole Super League is not important to me, just an interesting event to follow as its one corupt organisation versus clubs owned by Billionairs who want their own Fantasy League real life version.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 11:46:56 am
The most annoying part of the whole scenario is all the sky sports pundits crying about greed like a bunch of hypocrites and like UEFA is any better.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: crazypro25. on April 20, 2021, 11:55:33 am
I find it quite pathetic that some clubs that don't even make it into the CL (Tottenham, Arsenal, etc.) dare to become founding members of a "super league".
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Keita on April 20, 2021, 11:59:11 am
The most annoying part of the whole scenario is all the sky sports pundits crying about greed like a bunch of hypocrites and like UEFA is any better.
yep theyre equally as bad, it's literally bad guys vs bad guys.

i love how people are applauding bayern and psg for not joining the league, the reason why psg isn't joining is so they can continue being corrupt and avoid fpp like theyve done for awhile now.

and bayerns owner himself has tried to make this european superleague a thing for ages now, if perez wouldn't push this like he has done, im sure rummennigge would sooner or later.

theyre all money grabbing cucks, there's no good side here, i do feel bad for the lower teams that will suffer economically if this happens due to all the revenue the big teams bring to their respective leagues
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Kore on April 20, 2021, 12:34:02 pm
football more like suckcer
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 20, 2021, 02:12:42 pm
The most annoying part of the whole scenario is all the sky sports pundits crying about greed like a bunch of hypocrites and like UEFA is any better.
Bit harsh on the pundits tbh, there's nothing hypocritical about it. They have fuck all to do with UEFA's corrupt business and none of the ones I've seen are even remotely pretending that UEFA is any better. Nor do they have any decisive influence over their former clubs' decisions, so it's not like they could've prevented this from happening. In the end I only see it as a good thing that they are voicing their opinion clearly and are calling fans to action.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 03:13:29 pm
The most annoying part of the whole scenario is all the sky sports pundits crying about greed like a bunch of hypocrites and like UEFA is any better.
Bit harsh on the pundits tbh, there's nothing hypocritical about it. They have fuck all to do with UEFA's corrupt business and none of the ones I've seen are even remotely pretending that UEFA is any better. Nor do they have any decisive influence over their former clubs' decisions, so it's not like they could've prevented this from happening. In the end I only see it as a good thing that they are voicing their opinion clearly and are calling fans to action.
They work for the highest paid company in that area who support UEFA blindly in whatever they do, it's not just their opinion they are easily influenced by their pay check and their job security.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 20, 2021, 04:34:54 pm
Man city and Chelsea rumoured to both pull-out :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 04:37:52 pm
It was announced yesterday that neither of them actually wanted to join particularly but didn't wanna be left alone in a 'weakened' prem/champs league.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: carlitos on April 20, 2021, 04:46:00 pm
Well Chelsea and City already signed for superleague, so i doubt they can withdraw easily.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: carlitos on April 20, 2021, 04:52:49 pm
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.

Super league teams wont leave their national leagues, i dont know where that comes from but thats not gonna happen unless they get banned from those leagues (no way). Same goes for the national teams.

About PSG, considering his relation with UEFA and FIFA regarding the world cup in Qatar, they wont join immidiately, but if superleague becomes real they will eventually join, and so will Bayern.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Gi on April 20, 2021, 05:06:28 pm
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.

Super league teams wont leave their national leagues, i dont know where that comes from but thats not gonna happen unless they get banned from those leagues (no way). Same goes for the national teams.

About PSG, considering his relation with UEFA and FIFA regarding the world cup in Qatar, they wont join immidiately, but if superleague becomes real they will eventually join, and so will Bayern.
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There's no way on earth fifa/uefa allow a tournament that will rake in billions (and devalue fifa/uefa leagues) without their oversight/cut. There's no doubt whatsoever that they will ban players/teams if people don't back down. Not that it will get that far anyway, as soon enough one of the teams will get cold feet and leave (which will then cause the whole thing to collapse).
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: carlitos on April 20, 2021, 05:13:36 pm
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.

Super league teams wont leave their national leagues, i dont know where that comes from but thats not gonna happen unless they get banned from those leagues (no way). Same goes for the national teams.

About PSG, considering his relation with UEFA and FIFA regarding the world cup in Qatar, they wont join immidiately, but if superleague becomes real they will eventually join, and so will Bayern.
[close]
There's no way on earth fifa/uefa allow a tournament that will rake in billions (and devalue fifa/uefa leagues) without their oversight/cut. There's no doubt whatsoever that they will ban players/teams if people don't back down. Not that it will get that far anyway, as soon enough one of the teams will get cold feet and leave (which will then cause the whole thing to collapse).

And then who is gonna watch PL without the top 6 or the world cup without all the top players?

Superleague teams can survive just playing on that league, but national leagues cant survive without those teams. It will be the same as it was with european basket 20 years ago, they will eventually assume this superleague because at the end of the day they cant do anything against it without destroying themselves.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 20, 2021, 05:23:06 pm
There's absolutely 0 chance that UEFA and national FA's will allow these teams to continue playing in their leagues if this Super League goes through.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: carlitos on April 20, 2021, 05:28:53 pm
There's absolutely 0 chance that UEFA and national FA's will allow these teams to continue playing in their leagues if this Super League goes through.

They have a great opportunity right now to ban all remaining UCL teams before semifinals and give the trophy to PSG, and same with PL serie A and la liga.
Something tells me that they wont.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Gi on April 20, 2021, 05:28:56 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
I support [...] a low class Bundesliga Club.

Schalke?  ;D
Bremen  8)
Bremen it is!


I think it takes away too much from the rest of the game to have this happen.
I keep seeing this point repeated and circlejerked over but what exactly is being taken away from the game if this league forms?
There are different problems.
First, in a normal UCL year, the top teams dont face each other twice per year. Games like Liverpool vs Real Madrid, Juve vs Manchester United etc dont happen that often, so its a highlight. The knock out situation makes it even more interesting. The Super League takes away the possbility for Underdogs, who somehow just make it to the semifinals in the UCL. In the Superleague, there are just top teams and they face each other so often, that its just not a highlight. After one or two seasons a match like Liverpool versus Fc Barcelona would feel like Liverpool versus Burnley.

Another point is, that Superleague players wont be a allowed in their national teams. So it is a bit like the american olympia teams of some of their top sports. A Nation, England is the best example, cant take players from its strongest 6 Teams, where a lot of national players are playing. That counts for other countries too, so the skill level of the World Cup would drop to a disapointing level.

Then there is the problem with the fans. Imagine you are a Liverpool supporter your whole life. You traveled Up and Down, from Manchester to London, to see your club live in stadium every week. It is the main thing in your life. Now you cant just say " lets go to West Ham versus Liverpool on Saturday, I buy the train tickets"
You have to say " lets go to Juve versus Liverpool, but fuck, I have to go by plane and because the match starts at 8 o clock, I cant fly back the same day"
So fan culture is reduced to home support and social media likes.

Then there is the financial point of other clubs. Many of them get a lot of money from Tv Deals. The matches are shown on TV and whoever pays enough money can show them on his channel. But how much would you pay for a spanish league without Barca, Real and Atletico? How much for a premiere league, where Everton versus Leicester is a top game? They will get less money and have to change their whole financial plan for the next years. Its not 100% sure how this will work out at the end.


These were just some points that came to my mind or that I read in the last days.

Super league teams wont leave their national leagues, i dont know where that comes from but thats not gonna happen unless they get banned from those leagues (no way). Same goes for the national teams.

About PSG, considering his relation with UEFA and FIFA regarding the world cup in Qatar, they wont join immidiately, but if superleague becomes real they will eventually join, and so will Bayern.
[close]
There's no way on earth fifa/uefa allow a tournament that will rake in billions (and devalue fifa/uefa leagues) without their oversight/cut. There's no doubt whatsoever that they will ban players/teams if people don't back down. Not that it will get that far anyway, as soon enough one of the teams will get cold feet and leave (which will then cause the whole thing to collapse).

And then who is gonna watch PL without the top 6 or the world cup without all the top players?

Superleague teams can survive just playing in that league, but national leagues can't survive without those teams. It will be the same as it was with the European basket 20 years ago, they will eventually assume this superleague because at the end of the day they can't do anything against it without destroying themselves.
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I don't think you understand, these plans totally remove any power from FIFA/UEFA along with threatening their revenue streams. From their perspective, if they go extreme and ban all these players/clubs then they will all eventually come back anyway and their revenue will only be affected in the short term. If they allow this to happen, then their power/finances will become second fiddle to this breakaway league. It will also provide precedent for the second-tier clubs, such as Leicester, Sevilla, Marseille etc to go and form their own second-tier super leagues. This is a case of survival for FIFA.

Also, the premier league has written rules that prohibits clubs from playing in other competitions without their consent + the UK government is intervening to stop English clubs from joining
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 20, 2021, 05:36:59 pm
The thing is as well that no kid grows up dreaming about winning the European Super League. Kids grow up dreaming about participating in and winning their National League, the Champions League, the European Cup and the World Cup. If the next generation would have to choose between those 4 things or just participating in the European Super Cup, they will most likely choose the former.   
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 05:49:49 pm
I mean the part about the champions league could be only temporary realistically, it's not the first time a league like this has changed and of course that's always a point for the first 10-20 years. 
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 20, 2021, 05:55:29 pm
I mean the part about the champions league could be only temporary realistically, it's not the first time a league like this has changed and of course that's always a point for the first 10-20 years.
Yes for the Champions League that would obviously change over time and it could even impact the prestige of the national leagues. But the inability to participate in the World Cup and European Cup would definitely make future players extremely reluctant to join a team in the ESL.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: BabyJesus on April 20, 2021, 06:08:01 pm
The thing is as well that no kid grows up dreaming about winning the European Super League. Kids grow up dreaming about participating in and winning their National League, the Champions League, the European Cup and the World Cup. If the next generation would have to choose between those 4 things or just participating in the European Super Cup, they will most likely choose the former.
this might be the dumbest post on this thread
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 20, 2021, 06:20:37 pm
The thing is as well that no kid grows up dreaming about winning the European Super League. Kids grow up dreaming about participating in and winning their National League, the Champions League, the European Cup and the World Cup. If the next generation would have to choose between those 4 things or just participating in the European Super Cup, they will most likely choose the former.
this might be the dumbest post on this thread
Wouldn't expect american tards to understand. Goomba's posts on this thread say enough about how much you guys understand the situation.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 20, 2021, 06:34:01 pm
Americans will never truly understand the joy of winning at home in the champions league and that's why their opinions on this issue ain't relevant or warranted.

Also this super league won't help football in the long run. Clubs got too greedy and spent too much on players leading to more money getting thrown. Barcelona is in debt of around €1.2 Billion, there is no fix to that without a major football restructure.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 20, 2021, 07:35:54 pm
I mean the part about the champions league could be only temporary realistically, it's not the first time a league like this has changed and of course that's always a point for the first 10-20 years.
Yes for the Champions League that would obviously change over time and it could even impact the prestige of the national leagues. But the inability to participate in the World Cup and European Cup would definitely make future players extremely reluctant to join a team in the ESL.
Yeah but let's be honest if it does end up going ahead and going on that long with the 'major' teams backing it then that won't happen.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 20, 2021, 07:44:21 pm
The thing is as well that no kid grows up dreaming about winning the European Super League. Kids grow up dreaming about participating in and winning their National League, the Champions League, the European Cup and the World Cup. If the next generation would have to choose between those 4 things or just participating in the European Super Cup, they will most likely choose the former.
this might be the dumbest post on this thread
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 20, 2021, 07:54:06 pm
I mean the part about the champions league could be only temporary realistically, it's not the first time a league like this has changed and of course that's always a point for the first 10-20 years.
Yes for the Champions League that would obviously change over time and it could even impact the prestige of the national leagues. But the inability to participate in the World Cup and European Cup would definitely make future players extremely reluctant to join a team in the ESL.
Yeah but let's be honest if it does end up going ahead and going on that long with the 'major' teams backing it then that won't happen.
No... because it would never go on for that long. If players are genuinely barred from the European Cup and World Cup the super league will die out in no time.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: sidney crosby on April 20, 2021, 08:10:41 pm
ive seen nothing but unified pushback from current and former players. Doubt anything happens
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikus on April 20, 2021, 08:13:47 pm
i hope it wont happen
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: sidney crosby on April 20, 2021, 08:17:25 pm
just watch hockey instead u dumbfucks
cringe sport
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Fartknocker on April 20, 2021, 08:59:33 pm
And after all of this comes and goes... no matter what... 10, 20, maybe 30 years from now... the MLS is the best league in the world. European Super what? Oh yeah. Nobody cares about that anymore.

MLS vs Liga MX is the premier event in the world by 2050
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: The Rebel on April 20, 2021, 09:04:36 pm
WE'VE WON
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Glenn on April 20, 2021, 09:18:28 pm
UEFA and FIFA rn

Spoiler
(https://img.ifunny.co/images/ccf1164ed3da9ab5f6aa46f03e5be42925220afcba8faf6c962ee69f24be6f68_1.jpg)
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Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikus on April 20, 2021, 10:07:47 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9mhF3AJkE
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 20, 2021, 10:08:40 pm
Man city and Chelsea rumoured to both pull-out :-[ :-[ :-[
Wow what a guy!
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikus on April 20, 2021, 10:14:31 pm
Man city and Chelsea rumoured to both pull-out :-[ :-[ :-[
Wow what a guy!

The guy from Man Utd resinged after the super league is doomed to fall rn xD (Vice-Chairman ed woodward)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Keita on April 20, 2021, 10:56:38 pm
Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/855df54bc67bf04dbbce56d7288a6378.png)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaplovE3vsg

Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: junedragon on April 20, 2021, 11:01:40 pm
Glazers might be cashing out of Utd cause of all of this. Did Perez just inadvertantly save football?
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Fartknocker on April 21, 2021, 12:11:17 am
England is out. This league is dead
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 21, 2021, 12:19:50 am
Woodward and Agnelli already stepped down.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Treiz35 on April 21, 2021, 01:09:42 am
nice league
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 21, 2021, 01:12:04 am
Would be a major dub if this league disbanded/didn't start 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Mauri on April 21, 2021, 02:45:45 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yuD2XEekRQ
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Chainsor on April 21, 2021, 09:36:13 am
Barcelona and Atletico are rumoured to pull out too. Atletico didnt post a statement yet, but Barcelona's president mentioned in catalonia television that the members of the club are able to either vote for or against the super league (and everyone with brain would vote against that shit). Since Juventus pulled out aswell, only the Milan and the Madrid clubs are still in the super league. What a joke try this was.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 21, 2021, 11:07:59 am
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480418748784705547/834354627620372510/Screenshot_20210421-100651_Twitter.jpg)

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 21, 2021, 11:25:35 am
supershortleague
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 21, 2021, 11:29:08 am
Lasted as long as a nw league 8)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Chainsor on April 21, 2021, 11:30:05 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/56jask.jpg)
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: [2ndHess] lukasoh on April 21, 2021, 11:46:51 am
This looks like the worst "We do our own thing and you cant do anything against it" try I ever saw. They didnt talk to the teams, the coaches, the managers, to anybody. Were they drunk or stoned? When this all started I thought they have a plan to solve all the upcoming problems, that they have something to put some pressure on the UEFA. Imagine beeing the idiot who spent Months of work on this project and then it does not even last a week.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 21, 2021, 12:35:04 pm
Tbh this whole situation felt so surreal from the get go. Just felt like a bad dream.

If anything, this can be used in a positive way. Certain people will resign and some owners might even sell their clubs. This momentum can also be used to put things into place to prevent stuff like this from happening in the future.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Herishey on April 21, 2021, 12:51:17 pm
Watch the momentum not be used to call out UEFA/FIFA at all and nothing changes.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikkert on April 21, 2021, 12:59:13 pm
Watch the momentum not be used to call out UEFA/FIFA at all and nothing changes.
Yeah UEFA and FIFA will spin this to make it seem like they are the saviours of football, when they themselves have been destroying it in a similar way for decades.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Fwuffy on April 21, 2021, 01:01:01 pm
Rip :c
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Keita on April 21, 2021, 01:54:22 pm
the new champions league changes they've made are absolute ass
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 21, 2021, 02:16:09 pm
Barca and Real are only clubs that left in that Super League.
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Rikus on April 21, 2021, 06:26:50 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJi8J3MK3M
Title: Re: The SuperLeague?? Football is dead?
Post by: Dusbled on April 21, 2021, 08:52:04 pm
Barca and Real are only clubs that left in that Super League.

juventus president trying to keep Super League up though