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Title: United States or Britain?
Post by: weaverwarrior12 on November 24, 2013, 09:16:17 am
This topic is going to be about the colonization of North America, particularly the colonization of the area now apart of the USA.
A lot of people have some really strong opinions on this topic and I'd like to see them.
I would like to keep this a civil discussion.


I personally will side with my country, because even though some of the things that the colonists were getting mad over were ridiculous, they wanted freedom from an empire. The patriots felt being controlled by an empire across the ocean was absolute blasphemy.
Also, Americans have a trend of hating taxes, as seen today.  ::)

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Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on November 24, 2013, 09:30:50 am
Why creating the thread, that can provoke shitstorm? Pointless really.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: weaverwarrior12 on November 24, 2013, 09:34:23 am
Quote from: Prince_Eugen on November 24, 2013, 09:30:50 am
Why creating the thread, that can provoke shitstorm? Pointless really.

I'm a very political person and I see no reason to not create a somewhat political discussion just to have something to discuss.
It may cause a shit storm and if it does then I'm sure some moderator will lock the thread.
If people can just argue in a civil manor than this thread could be a success.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Duuring on November 24, 2013, 10:10:11 am
I very much doubt Americans can look upon the rebellion objectively.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 11:56:28 am
This will turn into the new America circle-jerk thread.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Keita on November 24, 2013, 01:46:10 pm
US
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: weaverwarrior12 on November 24, 2013, 03:20:48 pm
Quote from: Starkz. on November 24, 2013, 01:46:10 pm
US

Thank you for going along with the thread.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Gizmo on November 24, 2013, 03:30:49 pm
UK, definitely.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Joseph Graham on November 24, 2013, 03:40:36 pm
Albion.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: MagicTeatowel on November 24, 2013, 04:09:55 pm
War of Independence, trading one tyrant across the ocean for several on the same continent.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 24, 2013, 04:11:28 pm
Don't know, i like both equally.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Augy on November 24, 2013, 04:25:41 pm
What about the majority of natives already living there?
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Menelaos on November 24, 2013, 04:27:36 pm
Quote from: Augy on November 24, 2013, 04:25:41 pm
What about the majority of natives already living there?

Guns, germs, and steel.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Augy on November 24, 2013, 04:30:55 pm
That doesn't justify anything.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Tibbert on November 24, 2013, 04:31:53 pm
Quote from: Menelaos on November 24, 2013, 04:27:36 pm
Quote from: Augy on November 24, 2013, 04:25:41 pm
What about the majority of natives already living there?

Guns, germs, and steel.
Bad book full of shit
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Karth on November 24, 2013, 04:42:15 pm
Well.. as we were taught it, the British Government was under a lot of debt from all the wars they had, and felt that the colonists across the ocean should share the same burden as they looted a lot from the French-Indian War.  So little by little the British Parliament tried putting ridiculous taxes on the colonies, stamp act, tea, excise, etc.. So colonists got pissed, wanted to be free from British rule for good, you know the rest..

So obviously I will side with the US... lol still not seeing point of thread  ::)
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 05:51:17 pm
Ungrateful buggers, would you rather be under French rule or British taxation?
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 24, 2013, 06:18:07 pm
I AM 'MURICAN but I would choose Britain because of what Jelly said. Yes, taxation sucks and yes, the brits didn't really fight to protect us for any moral reason, just land. In the end though, the American revolution is just a regime change where we trade one set of rich whites for another. The true American revolution doesn't really occur until 1861 with the civil war.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Desert Thunda on November 24, 2013, 06:30:07 pm
Whats next? "Aliens or monsters"? "Zombies or Vampires?" Just stick to one thread, soon you would be the #1 thread maker of useless threads.



Britian.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Gizmo on November 24, 2013, 06:33:07 pm
Quote from: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 05:51:17 pm
Ungrateful buggers, would you rather be under French rule or British taxation?

The French had no claims on the Thirteen Colonies, your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Ryner on November 24, 2013, 06:34:08 pm
inb4lock

USA best EU
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 06:35:54 pm
US looked nicer back in the 18-19th century compared to now. Now you have skyscrapers everywhere and most of the cultural heritage is burnt. (Sorry, I might overreact a bit.)
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 07:34:10 pm
Quote from: Gizmo on November 24, 2013, 06:33:07 pm
Quote from: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 05:51:17 pm
Ungrateful buggers, would you rather be under French rule or British taxation?

The French had no claims on the Thirteen Colonies, your argument is invalid.
Some taxation came from the French and Indian war, and if Britain had lost that, the colonies would've been French.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Ryner on November 24, 2013, 07:42:51 pm
Quote from: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 07:34:10 pm
Quote from: Gizmo on November 24, 2013, 06:33:07 pm
Quote from: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 05:51:17 pm
Ungrateful buggers, would you rather be under French rule or British taxation?

The French had no claims on the Thirteen Colonies, your argument is invalid.
Some taxation came from the French and Indian war, and if Britain had lost that, the colonies would've been French.
I wonder if the French would have taxed us as harshly as the UK, would we have stilled rebelled?

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Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Van_Hulstein on November 24, 2013, 07:46:26 pm
The United Dutch States, lol being part of 300x small country ;)
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Hawke on November 24, 2013, 08:30:16 pm
You can stop with the posting of Dutch things now, nobody cares.

UK, obviously.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Menelaos on November 24, 2013, 08:44:28 pm
Is this the "post if ur british or american" thread?
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Hawke on November 24, 2013, 08:45:06 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Van_Hulstein on November 24, 2013, 08:48:05 pm
Well... I am Frisian.
Frisians emmigrated to the UK.
Brits emigrated to the USA.

But I feel more UK than US :P
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: TORN on November 24, 2013, 08:48:34 pm
Quote from: Menelaos on November 24, 2013, 08:44:28 pm
Is this the "post if ur british or american" thread?
You can't tell me what to do!
I'm belgian and I post here!
Title: Re: United States or Britain?
Post by: Riddlez on November 24, 2013, 08:52:23 pm
Stop fucking spamming these threads.

A lot are useless, others only create shitstorms.