The General Political Thread

[StevenChilton]

In what way is there a 'deep cultural split' or 'massive economic divergence' in the Netherlands? Has there ever been?

And if there was then no, you wouldn't have dissolved two centuries ago because this only applies in the democratic era. Non-homogeneous unions are possible if you keep people in line with bullets (e.g. Austria-Hungary, USSR, etc).

[William]

The current state of Great Britain is the breeding ground for a hard line conservative party to gain power and to then use mass hysteria to create an authoritarian government that will simply have nothing to oversee it, with the only they could truly be undone is through some sort of revolution, perhaps with the destruction of the Palace of Westminster on the 5th of November, symbolizing the end of the old, and the beginning of the new.

[Duuring]

In what way is there a 'deep cultural split' or 'massive economic divergence' in the Netherlands? Has there ever been?

And if there was then no, you wouldn't have dissolved two centuries ago because this only applies in the democratic era. Non-homogeneous unions are possible if you keep people in line with bullets (e.g. Austria-Hungary, USSR, etc).

The Catholic-Protestant split as well as the difference of wealth between the west and east that's still very much felt today.

The current state of Great Britain is the breeding ground for a hard line conservative party to gain power and to then use mass hysteria to create an authoritarian government that will simply have nothing to oversee it, with the only they could truly be undone is through some sort of revolution, perhaps with the destruction of the Palace of Westminster on the 5th of November, symbolizing the end of the old, and the beginning of the new.

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[Conway]

The current state of Great Britain is the breeding ground for a hard line conservative party to gain power and to then use mass hysteria to create an authoritarian government that will simply have nothing to overse

Despite the current centre-conservative party being increasingly unpoluar and the only notable right-wing party getting 1.8% of the electorate in contrast to 12.8% two years prior. The BNP garnered about 3000 more votes nationwide than two year prior.

I personally think Sinn Féin will assassinate the Queen and force a personal union with Ireland. Gerry Adams is named "Lord Protector" of the United Kingdom and uses the military to restore order.

[StevenChilton]

In what way is there a 'deep cultural split' or 'massive economic divergence' in the Netherlands? Has there ever been?

And if there was then no, you wouldn't have dissolved two centuries ago because this only applies in the democratic era. Non-homogeneous unions are possible if you keep people in line with bullets (e.g. Austria-Hungary, USSR, etc).

The Catholic-Protestant split as well as the difference of wealth between the west and east that's still very much felt today.

The Catholic-Protestant split? Duuring are you serious...

Based on GDP per capita, the wealth difference between the poorest and richest Dutch province is tiny compared to Germany vs Greece/Romania/Portugal.

[Duuring]

I'm not talking of the situation today, obviously. I'm talking in historic perspective. The catholic/protestant split is nowhere as strong as it used to be, but strong it was, until even after world war two. For more then a century, there were pretty much parallel societies that lived next to, not with, eachother. The split certainly was a lot stronger felt then cultural differences with a country a thousand kilometres away.

[William]

Looking back, I wonder how well or bad the world would be if colonialism still prevailed. I feel like the world would be much more stable in the fact that many of these new states would not be having constant ethnic wars but at the same time colonialism stripes native people of pretty much everything but at the same time gives a common language and religion to unite people. However, neocolonialism and the inability to enforce peace among areas, leaving room for genocide, is far worse in my opinion which is why I bring this up.

[Theodin]

Colonialism always leads to internal rebellion and warfare. It’s unsustainable. Independent self rule is the best way for nation-states

[StevenChilton]

Looking back, I wonder how well or bad the world would be if colonialism still prevailed. I feel like the world would be much more stable in the fact that many of these new states would not be having constant ethnic wars but at the same time colonialism stripes native people of pretty much everything but at the same time gives a common language and religion to unite people. However, neocolonialism and the inability to enforce peace among areas, leaving room for genocide, is far worse in my opinion which is why I bring this up.

Ironically that's the view that Soviet authorities espoused re: Central Asia and their presence there. The USSR was anti-colonialist only when it suited it!

I'm not talking of the situation today, obviously. I'm talking in historic perspective. The catholic/protestant split is nowhere as strong as it used to be, but strong it was, until even after world war two. For more then a century, there were pretty much parallel societies that lived next to, not with, eachother. The split certainly was a lot stronger felt then cultural differences with a country a thousand kilometres away.

Maybe so, but obviously a Catholic and a Protestant will have more in common on social and cultural issues than a secular atheistic/soft religious West (France and Germany) vs the hardcore Catholicism of places like Poland.

[Duuring]

Maybe so, but obviously a Catholic and a Protestant will have more in common on social and cultural issues than a secular atheistic/soft religious West (France and Germany) vs the hardcore Catholicism of places like Poland.

But countries aren't singular entities. You talk of those in the same way people talk of 'blue states' or 'red states' in the USA - political fairytales people pretend are real to avoid admitting that the reality is a ridiciously complex shitfest. Hardcore Protestants in my country and hardcore Catholics in Poland have a lot in common, which is why the religious Dutch parties are in the same European faction as PiS and love working together. It's the same as people who say 'Scotland voted to Remain!' while 38% voted to leave to pretend it's some pro-European bullwark, or that 'Britain voted to leave!' while 48.11% voted to remain, to pretend it's somehow united in that mission.

[StevenChilton]

Maybe so, but obviously a Catholic and a Protestant will have more in common on social and cultural issues than a secular atheistic/soft religious West (France and Germany) vs the hardcore Catholicism of places like Poland.

But countries aren't singular entities. You talk of those in the same way people talk of 'blue states' or 'red states' in the USA - political fairytales people pretend are real to avoid admitting that the reality is a ridiciously complex shitfest. Hardcore Protestants in my country and hardcore Catholics in Poland have a lot in common, which is why the religious Dutch parties are in the same European faction as PiS and love working together. It's the same as people who say 'Scotland voted to Remain!' while 38% voted to leave to pretend it's some pro-European bullwark, or that 'Britain voted to leave!' while 48.11% voted to remain, to pretend it's somehow united in that mission.

Don't think I ever claimed these places were homogeneous, but there's large majorities in each country for a totally different cultural view. How well did parties opposed to abortion, gay marriage, LGBT rights etc do in the last Dutch elections? How many even stood on such a platform? In Poland political parties that are highly socially conservative took over 80% of the vote in 2015.

[Norwegian13]

A rather rascist tweet from YouTube, if you ask me. Imagine the uproar we'd get from the SJW's if it said "Subscribe to white creators."

What are your guys' thoughts on this so-called "Black History Month"? In my opinion, it's a ridiculous concept that shouldn't be "marked" in any way. We don't have "White History Month", nor do we have "Yellow History Month" or "Red History Month" so why the hell should we have a "Black History Month"? Besides, why should we have a month celebrating the history of a certain skin colour? What's the point of it?

[Windflower]

A rather rascist tweet from YouTube, if you ask me. Imagine the uproar we'd get from the SJW's if it said "Subscribe to white creators."

What are your guys' thoughts on this so-called "Black History Month"? In my opinion, it's a ridiculous concept that shouldn't be "marked" in any way. We don't have "White History Month", nor do we have "Yellow History Month" or "Red History Month" so why the hell should we have a "Black History Month"? Besides, why should we have a month celebrating the history of a certain skin colour? What's the point of it?

because they been through a lotta shit as a race dawg

[William]

Ironic that black history is basically Jim Crow segregation of history because we get 11 months lol

On a more realistic note, it sickens me how partisan YouTube/Google is. It went from my favorite website to a shit hole where trending is hand picked, worthy creators don’t get shit, and talk show hosts spew leftist shit with no demonitization. It’s sad to see what it’s become. I honestly thought their twitter was hacked but nope, just retarded

[Jakester]

Ironic that black history is basically Jim Crow segregation of history because we get 11 months lol

On a more realistic note, it sickens me how partisan YouTube/Google is. It went from my favorite website to a shit hole where trending is hand picked, worthy creators don’t get shit, and talk show hosts spew leftist shit with no demonitization. It’s sad to see what it’s become. I honestly thought their twitter was hacked but nope, just retarded