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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => General Discussion => Suggestions & Bug Reports => Topic started by: SilentMan on January 03, 2014, 11:44:00 pm
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Firing on horseback is way too inaccurate, its hard to hit anything. And the horses are slowers compared to hussars and lancers, so how are dragoons supposed to escape from them?
Bring back musketoon on horseback. Hussars and lancers are way too powerful compared to dragoons.
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Firing on horseback is way too inaccurate, its hard to hit anything. And the horses are slowers compared to hussars and lancers, so how are dragoons supposed to escape from them?
Bring back musketoon on horseback. Hussars and lancers are way too powerful compared to dragoons.
They do seem kinda of useless, but it was my idea that most dragoons were stationary when they fired (they didn't fire while moving)
I think Dragoons could be made lighter tho, cav/armor etc. More mobile
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Firing on horseback was barely even possible especially reloading. Dragoons are just that, Dragoons. Mobile infantry, ride somewhere, dismount, and fire.
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Firing on horseback was barely even possible especially reloading. Dragoons are just that, Dragoons. Mobile infantry, ride somewhere, dismount, and fire.
This is how Dragoons ought to be played; mounted light infantry. Admittedly, the British Dragoons suffer as a result of the carbine they are equipped with but there isn't much that can be done about that now.
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If anything, they serve as a huge distraction when you come up behind an occupied line and start firing, only to run away when they finally readdress to face you.
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About the slow horses. Most Dragoons classes are the Medium Horse but I know one at least on Austria and Britain have the light horse
Bring back musketoon on horseback.
ARE YOU ON DRUGS WHATARE YOU THINKING NO NO NO NONONONNONOONONONONO NO
Also on a more calm note do you think they should be more accurate when moving or still, or both?
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I too used to think they were underpowered.
But then I actually started playing as a dragoon, dismounting and all. Works quite well in my experience even with the medium horses.
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Dragoons are the biggest annoyance on public servers, as for in linebattles, they become quite useful as a harassment force. Yet I have never seen an instance where dragoons ride to a strategic position, dismount, and hold the area for the main force to come and claim.
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I always thought the "mounted infantry" concept was kind of stupid. Gunners mounted on horseback, sure, they can harass the enemy very well. But riding to a fight and then dismounting? Horses just going to watch?
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I always thought the "mounted infantry" concept was kind of stupid. Gunners mounted on horseback, sure, they can harass the enemy very well. But riding to a fight and then dismounting? Horses just going to watch?
It probably works better in reality than in this game. Although it works well on larger maps. Not enough regiments take cavalry.
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Mhm. It also tends to work much better in custom maps where there's the odd strategic point (wall, building, etc) that they can take. Far too many events have this 'everything must be balanced, everyone must be catered to' kind of mentality.
I for one would love to play Dragoons if this were the case.
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Mhm. It also tends to work much better in custom maps where there's the odd strategic point (wall, building, etc) that they can take. Far too many events have this 'everything must be balanced, everyone must be catered to' kind of mentality.
I for one would love to play Dragoons if this were the case.
Yeah, if events were unbalanced and if maps had more serious strategic areas that are in the middle (instead of at team-spawns) then Dragoons would become infinitely times more useful.
Maybe I should put my money where my mouth is and make a map. Noob-mapping ahoy!
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And the horses are slowers compared to hussars and lancers, so how are dragoons supposed to escape from them?
How do heavy Cav escape from hussars and lancers? They don't. Both Dragoons+Heavy cav turn around and fight them with a sword. Dragoons have the bonus of being able to shoot the hussars+lancers in their horse which is a big target! It's hard to miss a large horse as a dragoon.
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If you aren't British that is.
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I always thought the "mounted infantry" concept was kind of stupid. Gunners mounted on horseback, sure, they can harass the enemy very well. But riding to a fight and then dismounting? Horses just going to watch?
It was for speed and mobility which in war arguably count more than firepower.
They were able to get to a location before enemy infantry could; dismount and hold until relieved by proper infantry.
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It doesnt matter how underpowered they are, if we go back to the days of the musketoon drive by then I'm going back to native.
As for their inaccuracy, try firing a gun with both hands on a horse without actually holding on to the horse, if you can do that then join the queens household cavalry.
Dragoons are underpowered but they're dragoons, so keep them that way.
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Firing on horseback is way too inaccurate, its hard to hit anything. And the horses are slowers compared to hussars and lancers, so how are dragoons supposed to escape from them?
Bring back musketoon on horseback. Hussars and lancers are way too powerful compared to dragoons.
its so fkimg easy.
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If you have ever been with a group of folks that properly play the dragoon class, you would know that they aren't underpowered.
Spend some time as dragoon, as Russian ones (we played russian anyways), they have the cavalry muskets, granted.
They are then basicly light infantry with an ability to be somewhere fast, very fast.
I also experienced proper dragoons as enemy, and sweet jesus that single dragoon company was fucking everywhere.
It is true that dragoons barely pack a punch when used as hussars: they aren't fast enough. But they work just as well against rifles and artillery as any other cavalry class.
It's just incredibly stupid to use them as tank cavalry. They aren't made for it.
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Firing on horseback is way too inaccurate, its hard to hit anything. And the horses are slowers compared to hussars and lancers, so how are dragoons supposed to escape from them?
Bring back musketoon on horseback. Hussars and lancers are way too powerful compared to dragoons.
its so fkimg easy.
Try to avoid a necro post, it's been almost 9 months since the previous reply.
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Oh, what the hell? Didn't even notice.
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Firing on horseback is way too inaccurate, its hard to hit anything. And the horses are slowers compared to hussars and lancers, so how are dragoons supposed to escape from them?
Bring back musketoon on horseback. Hussars and lancers are way too powerful compared to dragoons.
Underpowered? Dragoons are the most annoying cav in the game. All they do is shoot and in away, and your trying to get it to have musketoons and be faster? They should just take hussars out of the game if this is what you are wanting. Each cav balances out to another, or makes it so that it is always vulnerable. I.e hussars are fast but with shorter swords and their horses have less health. If the dragoons were faster how would a hussar or a lancer catch up to it? That is the vulnerability of the dragoon, its slow speed.
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Remember they're not to atually be used as a warhorse. They are for transportation of the troops.