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Title: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: HiReaper on September 23, 2022, 10:36:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl-y242QUhk

Links -

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/warband-script-enhancer-2-v1-0-7-6.384882/
https://www.taleworlds.com/
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on September 23, 2022, 10:41:28 pm
Always knew these "top tier players" have been fake smh
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 23, 2022, 10:44:37 pm
Please do not come with "I don't use the FOV thing" lmao!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Mauri on September 24, 2022, 12:11:43 am
just use lemoncheat noob
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 24, 2022, 12:23:39 am
We ban glitches but not FOV hacks. Disgraceful
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on September 24, 2022, 12:27:27 am
We ban glitches but not FOV hacks. Disgraceful
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: ~NickCole~ on September 24, 2022, 12:34:56 am
All the noobs after watching the tutorial

https://youtu.be/QrTrEIJkW3E
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: James. on September 24, 2022, 08:07:26 pm
reaper apology to the community leaked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJWRq84_rZk
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Giorno on September 24, 2022, 09:06:00 pm
How will the community react after discovering that the majority of top players have been using this for a long time ? 😲
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: higened243ed on September 24, 2022, 09:58:23 pm
Always knew these "top tier players" have been fake smh
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 24, 2022, 11:44:55 pm
its really helpful for me, thank you
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: MarxeiL on September 25, 2022, 12:15:35 pm
Always knew these "top tier players" have been fake smh
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: LeBrave on September 25, 2022, 04:46:03 pm
Wtf is this shit. 10 years im playing in 800x600 resolution, a 10 euros mouse, and 50fps, a setup of poor and im still better than you.

I don't know if what you're saying is shit or just me being a genius.

that not a tutorial to be a tier 1 but just to be a good cheater. That funny how in 2022 some players are shit the monday and tier 1 thusday, really amazing, that surely many hours of trainning. 
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 04:48:12 pm
The pattern master has spoken, hireapers 1 gold duel medal has nothing to le master
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gunmen on September 25, 2022, 05:20:27 pm
Always knew these "top tier players" have been fake smh
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: HiReaper on September 25, 2022, 05:23:20 pm
How will the community react after discovering that the majority of top players have been using this for a long time ? 😲

made this tutorial cuz a bunch of players have been using it for a year and it has spread throughout the community, so it was about time for a proper tutorial to help people with shithole pcs get better fps.

The fov slider is an advantage, but its at the point where its really hard to prevent it. The higher fov doesn't make you a god tho, so downplaying people's skill is MEGA COPE

Spoiler
Wtf is this shit. 10 years im playing in 800x600 resolution, a 10 euros mouse, and 50fps, a setup of poor and im still better than you.

I don't know if what you're saying is shit or just me being a genius.

that not a tutorial to be a tier 1 but just to be a good cheater. That funny how in 2022 some players are shit the monday and tier 1 thusday, really amazing, that surely many hours of trainning. 
[close]

pls play with me on the flank in animals
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: David_Schrein on September 25, 2022, 05:24:40 pm
Wtf is this shit. 10 years im playing in 800x600 resolution, a 10 euros mouse, and 50fps, a setup of poor and im still better than you.

I don't know if what you're saying is shit or just me being a genius.

that not a tutorial to be a tier 1 but just to be a good cheater. That funny how in 2022 some players are shit the monday and tier 1 thusday, really amazing, that surely many hours of trainning.
based
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 25, 2022, 06:03:45 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on September 25, 2022, 07:01:49 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 07:04:13 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 25, 2022, 07:05:17 pm
I always knew I didn't get bad with my old age, its just them cheating kids again...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on September 25, 2022, 07:05:52 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 07:09:36 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 25, 2022, 07:10:57 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.
Damn ur cheating
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on September 25, 2022, 07:17:32 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.
You can also change your FOV in the steam version byr pressing - or +
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on September 25, 2022, 07:22:17 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.
You can also change your FOV in the steam version byr pressing - or +
Yeah, this looks a lot more zoomed out than that though.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fluxyy on September 25, 2022, 07:36:26 pm
Always knew these "top tier players" have been fake smh
Between us mr dirty we knew very well who had them and who didn't  ::)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on September 25, 2022, 07:41:22 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.
You can also change your FOV in the steam version byr pressing - or +
Yeah, this looks a lot more zoomed out than that though.
Ofc but there is not point to watch the whole line because you will loose focus on the things close to you
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 25, 2022, 08:26:39 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.

I mean when you say 'select few', having FOV settings higher than what's available on the standard game is cheating, do you know who uses higher than standard?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on September 25, 2022, 08:34:54 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.

I mean when you say 'select few', having FOV settings higher than what's available on the standard game is cheating, do you know who uses higher than standard?
Would be interesting to know
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 08:36:27 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.

I mean when you say 'select few', having FOV settings higher than what's available on the standard game is cheating, do you know who uses higher than standard?

You can only tell through recordings. Some are more like warped then others.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 25, 2022, 08:58:37 pm
i can start game with 5421x1523 is this cheats? when im on left or right i can see whole map :o


but the image on the sides is very distorted, which makes it difficult to play, although this resolution should be adapted to my monitor

so i just playin with full hd
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vixtro on September 25, 2022, 11:21:22 pm
How to become a tier 1 Virgin  ;)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 25, 2022, 11:40:28 pm
(https://c.tenor.com/GAb48mc2G-QAAAAM/dr-strange-serious.gif)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Ilypa on September 26, 2022, 12:29:38 pm
I don't know who is using this stuff so I don't really know who I am calling out here but if you use cheats in a game which doesnt even have any money or Esports attached and is just solely played for fun, its kinda pathetic.  :-X
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 26, 2022, 12:44:39 pm
I don't know who is using this stuff so I don't really know who I am calling out here but if you use cheats in a game which doesnt even have any money or Esports attached and is just solely played for fun, its kinda pathetic.  :-X
Yeah yeah keep going with that LOSERS attitude bro.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on September 26, 2022, 01:31:23 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Aren‘t you the guy that used the health hacks during the draft tournament?  :o
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on September 26, 2022, 02:10:33 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Aren‘t you the guy that used the health hacks during the draft tournament?  :o
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on September 26, 2022, 02:49:59 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Aren‘t you the guy that used the health hacks during the draft tournament?  :o
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 26, 2022, 02:51:27 pm
I installed this because i wanna be pro player like Naatsuu and Steinmann
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 26, 2022, 03:12:58 pm
I installed this because i wanna be pro player like Naatsuu and Steinmann
(https://c.tenor.com/USD_ruJL9SUAAAAd/destroy-the-sith-star-wars.gif)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 26, 2022, 03:13:58 pm
Remember, I'm the dark side of the force
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on September 26, 2022, 03:16:43 pm
Do loads of people really use this? I've never touched anything like this just tried autoblock once with Stark for memes on Mercs and got banned.
yes lol. Most of tier 1 and tier 2 players use this
ew, imagine having to give yourself an advantage on a 12-year-old game, yikes.
Most however, including myself, use the default FOV settings. only a select few use it higher, the main problem isnt with the module itself, its with the fact you can change your FOV on a whim which i do agree is cheating.
You can also change your FOV in the steam version byr pressing - or +
that doesn't change your fov it just zooms in and out
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on September 26, 2022, 06:44:45 pm
I installed this because i wanna be pro player like Naatsuu and Steinmann
I’m just gonna use it cause i don’t wanna get backstabbed by Achilles
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 26, 2022, 09:55:36 pm
I installed this because i wanna be pro player like Naatsuu and Steinmann
I’m just gonna use it cause i don’t wanna get backstabbed by Achilles

Your auto helps with that too
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on September 26, 2022, 10:51:47 pm
i can start game with 5421x1523 is this cheats? when im on left or right i can see whole map :o


but the image on the sides is very distorted, which makes it difficult to play, although this resolution should be adapted to my monitor

so i just playin with full hd
yeah the sides are the worst part, it makes me motion sick
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 02:07:20 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Aren‘t you the guy that used the health hacks during the draft tournament?  :o

Ye, although that actually has no benefit, text is too large! There's a reason it's only used for streamer!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 02:12:15 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Aren‘t you the guy that used the health hacks during the draft tournament?  :o

Ye, although that actually has no benefit, text is too large! There's a reason it's only used for streamer!

Just saying with WSE you could change the text size
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Ilypa on September 27, 2022, 02:12:36 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 02:12:48 pm
tbf it's a sus application but literally everyone uses it; I mean I don't because I cba to install it so I just use steam but I can see why it would be useful
Aren‘t you the guy that used the health hacks during the draft tournament?  :o

Ye, although that actually has no benefit, text is too large! There's a reason it's only used for streamer!

Just saying with WSE you could change the text size

my text size is smaller, u can change that in documents but it doesn't change streamer mod text size
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 02:15:16 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??
Everyone cheating = allow it fam
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 02:16:26 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??

This has been “out” for years, we used to use it on PK and shit for ages.

It’s literally just a way to make the game run smoother and considering not everyone plays with the same hardware that can’t really be grounds to ban it
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 02:18:41 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??

This has been “out” for years, we used to use it on PK and shit for ages.

It’s literally just a way to make the game run smoother and considering not everyone plays with the same hardware that can’t really be grounds to ban it
Well, you can change your FOV settings which is a bannable offense in the past.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: jakob. on September 27, 2022, 02:20:27 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??

This has been “out” for years, we used to use it on PK and shit for ages.

It’s literally just a way to make the game run smoother and considering not everyone plays with the same hardware that can’t really be grounds to ban it
Well, you can change your FOV settings which is a bannable offense in the past.
it’s not like banning wse2 will stop people from using it if they really want it - you can still install it separately
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 02:22:00 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??

This has been “out” for years, we used to use it on PK and shit for ages.

It’s literally just a way to make the game run smoother and considering not everyone plays with the same hardware that can’t really be grounds to ban it
Well, you can change your FOV settings which is a bannable offense in the past.

Yeah but it’s just a slider, nothing to stop someone changing it back for a screenshot, like there is no way to police it if it was considered cheating, tbh I wouldn’t even call it cheating as has been said before anyone with a high enough res and a big screen can have the same effect anyway
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 02:38:44 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??

This has been “out” for years, we used to use it on PK and shit for ages.

It’s literally just a way to make the game run smoother and considering not everyone plays with the same hardware that can’t really be grounds to ban it
Well, you can change your FOV settings which is a bannable offense in the past.
anyone with a high enough res and a big screen can have the same effect anyway

thats not how fov works
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 02:44:20 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??
top players having been using this for over a year lol. Nothing to do. Hireaper was actually one of the first ones to use it on NW and spread it 🥸
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 02:46:17 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??
top players having been using this for over a year lol. Nothing to do.
top player cheating = accepted. Spooky trolling tournament = banned
gg community!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 03:37:45 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??
top players having been using this for over a year lol. Nothing to do.
top player cheating = accepted. Spooky trolling tournament = banned
gg community!

But is it cheating to have a smoother game?

Like the FOV thing is pure opinion it doesn’t give a mechanical advantage beyond being able to see more, but then how would you know they have a higher FOV or were just tilde keying

But that’s the only part of this that is debatable, the FPS enhancement just makes the game run better and I don’t see how that can be considered a cheat at all
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 03:39:53 pm
What do we actually do now that this is out?
We allow it and let everyone use it or we ban this??
top players having been using this for over a year lol. Nothing to do.
top player cheating = accepted. Spooky trolling tournament = banned
gg community!

But is it cheating to have a smoother game?

Like the FOV thing is pure opinion it doesn’t give a mechanical advantage beyond being able to see more, but then how would you know they have a higher FOV or were just tilde keying

But that’s the only part of this that is debatable, the FPS enhancement just makes the game run better and I don’t see how that can be considered a cheat at all
Mate, I'm purely talking about the FOV. People have been banned, accused etc etc for having a changed (better) FOV than others.
It's not about the smoothness, only FOV
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 03:46:03 pm
Like ngl, I’ve been playing around with the FOV and you can do some sus things with it, but it’s not so much that you can see behind you or anything
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 03:48:37 pm
Like ngl, I’ve been playing around with the FOV and you can do some sus things with it, but it’s not so much that you can see behind you or anything
It's fine, I'll destroy you all anyway with my pure vanilla m&b game.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 03:49:13 pm
Always knew you were a vanilla pillow princess
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 27, 2022, 03:50:42 pm
Vegi secretly uses this.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 03:52:10 pm
Vegi blocks with movement keys
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 03:53:52 pm
Vegi blocks with movement keys
and yet beating ur ass (which is not an accomplishment itself)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 03:56:29 pm
we force everyone to use steam version = easy win
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 27, 2022, 03:58:30 pm
Outside of forcing people to use the steam version (which you know some won't do) then I don't see the point in having a discussion about this.

As we discussed pre EIC its impossible to police NW without the use of 3rd party software. If that had been done years ago I'd be for it, but its 2022 surely we don't care enough at this point?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 03:59:41 pm
(https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/01/27/17/police%20car.jpg?width=1200)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 03:59:55 pm
we force everyone to use steam version = easy win

You can actually use it on steam version too
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on September 27, 2022, 04:00:16 pm
funny how people got so upset over my yellow muskets i got banned but this seems fine

also how do you 'force' someone to use steam version? they could just leave the launcher on sill use the other exe
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 27, 2022, 04:01:12 pm
funny how people got so upset over my yellow muskets i got banned but this seems fine

also how do you 'force' someone to use steam version? they could just leave the launcher on sill use the other exe
true
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 04:01:31 pm
funny how people got so upset over my yellow muskets i got banned but this seems fine

also how do you 'force' someone to use steam version? they could just leave the launcher on sill use the other exe
lmao, you have a fking point. Go use them again...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on September 27, 2022, 04:02:16 pm
funny how people got so upset over my yellow muskets i got banned but this seems fine

also how do you 'force' someone to use steam version? they could just leave the launcher on sill use the other exe
lmao, you have a fking point. Go use them again...
whos saying i ever stopped ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 04:02:22 pm
Wait till people learn about the proximity markers
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 27, 2022, 04:04:03 pm
I remember when people thought the bullet tracers would be considered cheating.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 27, 2022, 04:15:34 pm
I remember when people thought the bullet tracers would be considered cheating.
I don't remember there ever being a legitimate argument for that though.

Now the shift zoom was a different story
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 04:33:45 pm
I mean back in MM there were certain texture packs that had rings round your character at max range so you always knew exactly where it was… the game is so moddable that apart from things like auto, prox arrows and the like there isn’t much you can do
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 04:38:51 pm
Btw higher FOV makes it easier to hit max range, so technically yes, it does give you a mechanical advantage
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 04:46:15 pm
I’m guessing it’s either gonna have to be that WSE is banned, which can’t be proven, or you just accept that people can change their FOVs
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alatriste1234 on September 27, 2022, 05:21:29 pm
Wtf is this shit. 10 years im playing in 800x600 resolution, a 10 euros mouse, and 50fps, a setup of poor and im still better than you.

I don't know if what you're saying is shit or just me being a genius.

that not a tutorial to be a tier 1 but just to be a good cheater. That funny how in 2022 some players are shit the monday and tier 1 thusday, really amazing, that surely many hours of trainning.


u will always be the best ever man
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 06:28:13 pm
I’m guessing it’s either gonna have to be that WSE is banned, which can’t be proven, or you just accept that people can change their FOVs
You probably can, the settings tab in the unaltered version is different to the altered. By forcing someone to use the steam one you could ask them to take a screenshot of their options menu with the admins announcement in it to prove it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on September 27, 2022, 06:32:36 pm
just have ppl suspected of using higher fovs record during tourneys
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on September 27, 2022, 06:40:27 pm
I’m guessing it’s either gonna have to be that WSE is banned, which can’t be proven, or you just accept that people can change their FOVs
You probably can, the settings tab in the unaltered version is different to the altered. By forcing someone to use the steam one you could ask them to take a screenshot of their options menu with the admins announcement in it to prove it.
You could easily change it within that time tbh.

Recording is an option for this sort of thing but again it can easily be edited smoothly, only live streaming is a real way to 100% catch someone.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Caskie on September 27, 2022, 06:42:12 pm
I’m guessing it’s either gonna have to be that WSE is banned, which can’t be proven, or you just accept that people can change their FOVs
You probably can, the settings tab in the unaltered version is different to the altered. By forcing someone to use the steam one you could ask them to take a screenshot of their options menu with the admins announcement in it to prove it.
You could easily change it within that time tbh.

Recording is an option for this sort of thing but again it can easily be edited smoothly, only live streaming is a real way to 100% catch someone.
You can also change the wse exe to be the one that is opened by steam.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 27, 2022, 06:44:15 pm
Maybe we could make a poll if it's bannable or not? Most votes wins?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 27, 2022, 07:05:19 pm
but if you ban WSE you also have to ban people with better PCs than others, because they also have a higher FPS...

do people not see that the FPS part is purely optimising performance? like every other thing we all do to our games it
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 07:22:30 pm
No lol your completely missing the point. It’s the fact FOV can be changed so easily. No one cares about FPS lol only FOV cheaters
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 27, 2022, 07:25:13 pm
To be fair, I don't really notice much FPS boost at all from the few times using it, or it's just me idk. The FOV is an other thing. You can really put it far so you can see a lot around you.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 07:25:24 pm
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves. If you have a PC that's newer than 2011 and can run the game at 240fps, then WSE2 is a placebo where you believe it's actually giving you benefits because some top player said so.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 07:25:55 pm
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves
WSE2 user detected = opinion rejected
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 07:29:46 pm
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves
WSE2 user detected = opinion rejected

I don't use WSE2 you melt
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on September 27, 2022, 08:12:18 pm
I installed this because i wanna be pro player like Naatsuu and Steinmann
I’m just gonna use it cause i don’t wanna get backstabbed by Achilles

Your auto helps with that too
🤫🤫
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on September 27, 2022, 08:22:01 pm
Lets ask the WSE creator to make WSE without fov option and everything should be ok
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 27, 2022, 09:58:22 pm
finally a polak with brains
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 27, 2022, 09:59:15 pm
finally a polak with brains
1 good idea doesn't mean he has a brain. He's still Polish...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: jakob. on September 27, 2022, 10:35:00 pm
just have ppl suspected of using higher fovs record during tourneys
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 27, 2022, 11:06:12 pm
just have ppl suspected of using higher fovs record during tourneys

And how does one suspect someone using higher FOV if they don't upload videos
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 27, 2022, 11:12:39 pm
And how does one suspect someone using higher FOV if they don't upload videos
Just do what everyone in CSGO does! They are better than me so they must be cheating!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tomppa on September 28, 2022, 12:01:57 am
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves. If you have a PC that's newer than 2011 and can run the game at 240fps, then WSE2 is a placebo where you believe it's actually giving you benefits because some top player said so.

Personally I think its quite a big difference, might be because of potato pc or me being about as tech savvy as a camel, but I think the game is a ton smoother than regular steam version, especially on servers with more people and/or servers with scripts.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 28, 2022, 12:05:01 am
And how does one suspect someone using higher FOV if they don't upload videos
Just do what everyone in CSGO does! They are better than me so they must be cheating!
You summed up 90% of the people who play on Tropical Paradise.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 28, 2022, 12:11:58 am
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves. If you have a PC that's newer than 2011 and can run the game at 240fps, then WSE2 is a placebo where you believe it's actually giving you benefits because some top player said so.

Personally I think its quite a big difference, might be because of potato pc or me being about as tech savvy as a camel, but I think the game is a ton smoother than regular steam version, especially on servers with more people and/or servers with scripts.

Someone was telling me that you TK less with WSE2 because you don't warp through players, kinda like the feature explained here on the WSE2 thread

- Ragdoll soak - blows is beaten on corpses and thus prevents an unintentional teamhits.

I'm not sure the true benefit it brings but couldn't this be a game changer?

Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Golden. on September 28, 2022, 12:42:31 am
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves. If you have a PC that's newer than 2011 and can run the game at 240fps, then WSE2 is a placebo where you believe it's actually giving you benefits because some top player said so.

Personally I think its quite a big difference, might be because of potato pc or me being about as tech savvy as a camel, but I think the game is a ton smoother than regular steam version, especially on servers with more people and/or servers with scripts.

Someone was telling me that you TK less with WSE2 because you don't warp through players, kinda like the feature explained here on the WSE2 thread

- Ragdoll soak - blows is beaten on corpses and thus prevents an unintentional teamhits.

I'm not sure the true benefit it brings but couldn't this be a game changer?

I thought that was server side how you altering your stun animation or others with this?

It's definitely an advantage just like yellow muskets plus others but it's so minimal IMO it barely effects the outcomes of any rounds at all, you can't stop people using these gimmicks and they're not going to make you a better player.

You're still just gonna be just as shit even with every little giga cheat turned on.

There's a reason notorious autoblockers are still dog shit at the game.


Edit: Wasn't there a cheat going around not that long ago that allowed you to straight up go through blocks or was I crazy?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 28, 2022, 12:43:53 am
I believe the original reason people used WSE2 was due to the steam version stuttering sometimes, that in combination of the faster load-up speeds.

I don't think to the average user WSE2 is at all beneficial, especially considering its running numerous scripts which in my opinion would only be detrimental when playing and could cause issues in themselves. If you have a PC that's newer than 2011 and can run the game at 240fps, then WSE2 is a placebo where you believe it's actually giving you benefits because some top player said so.

Personally I think its quite a big difference, might be because of potato pc or me being about as tech savvy as a camel, but I think the game is a ton smoother than regular steam version, especially on servers with more people and/or servers with scripts.

Someone was telling me that you TK less with WSE2 because you don't warp through players, kinda like the feature explained here on the WSE2 thread

- Ragdoll soak - blows is beaten on corpses and thus prevents an unintentional teamhits.

I'm not sure the true benefit it brings but couldn't this be a game changer?

I thought that was server side how you altering your stun animation or others with this?

It's definitely an advantage just like yellow muskets plus others but it's so minimal IMO it barely effects the outcomes of any rounds at all, you can't stop people using these gimmicks and they're not going to make you a better player.

You're still just gonna be just as shit even with every little giga cheat turned on.

There's a reason notorious autoblockers are still dog shit at the game.

true
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on September 28, 2022, 12:44:34 am
All the autoblockers happy their cheat is now allowed!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Golden. on September 28, 2022, 12:46:05 am
The unblockable cheat was much more detrimental, haven't seen it in a while though..

Edit nvm that was patched:
New server console commands:
commander_battle_rambo <value> #cb rambo 1 is on, 0 is off
commander_battle_no_spread <value>  # 0 is off, 1 is on.  disable line inf spread
limit_medic <value> #sets the limit for medic units in each team (0-100)
custom_maps_enabled <value> # 0-100  selects the number of custom maps that can be chosen from
admin_white_list_enabled <value> # only allow admins from the cd key id whitelist 1 is on, 0 is off
admin_white_list_key <value> # Any id entered here will be added to the white list for admins.
custom_command1  <value> # toggle welcome message on or off.  0 is off, 1 is on
custom_command2  <value> # toggle competitive score on or off.  0 is off, 1 is on.
custom_command3  <value> # set the no rambo range in commander battle. (0-100)
custom_command4  <value> # set the limit on the number of artillery trains available (0-100)
#custom_commands 5-10 are not used currently but modders can use them
set_disallow_ranged_weapons #sets if ranged weapons are allowed or not.  Note, this will only effect people who spawn after this is set. 0 is off, 1 is on. 

What also got added for dedicated servers is the ability to set the maximum FPS of the server higher from its default 120 FPS setting.
with the command:
set_server_fps_limit  #takes values 10-1000

Be carefull with this, it will create unnessisary high load on the server box, it is made for perhaps small clan competitive matches to have in theory slightly better server responsivness and physics acuracy... But the difirence will probably be neglectable.

New faction to add to your server rotation:
add_factions fac_rhine fac_rhine


how about the sideblock fixing, were the hitboxes the only change in order to 'reduce pokes', did u nullify unblockable cheat and what about the rumoured other anticheat measures?
Sideblock is fixed. and you have to test our edits on pokes. the unblockable is fixed too.
I'm sure we forgot to mention many things in the change log, we did so much.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on September 28, 2022, 12:49:28 am
All the autoblockers happy their cheat is now allowed!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Ilypa on September 28, 2022, 10:36:07 am
Actually quite excited to see the results on this one.
We don't really have any clue what will happen but could be everyone who gets it become's better.
And people who already had it will have a harder time.
Or it doesn't have much impact at all and everything stay's the same.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 28, 2022, 10:56:51 am
I am shit at melee, downloaded this. Still shit.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on September 28, 2022, 11:35:24 am
The game is smoother with WSE, also maybe placebo but I feel like animation response is a lot more crisp. Although as Ivan found out it’s still very possible to have people warp through and get TKed
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 28, 2022, 12:00:01 pm
The game is smoother with WSE, also maybe placebo but I feel like animation response is a lot more crisp. Although as Ivan found out it’s still very possible to have people warp through and get TKed
The warping happened a lot when I played with it. Sometimes when I'm dueling someone they just warp through me and stab through my block which results in me dying.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 28, 2022, 12:40:42 pm
The game is smoother with WSE, also maybe placebo but I feel like animation response is a lot more crisp. Although as Ivan found out it’s still very possible to have people warp through and get TKed
The warping happened a lot when I played with it. Sometimes when I'm dueling someone they just warp through me and stab through my block which results in me dying.
i had warping in m&b when my fps higher than 200
but with wse it works fine for me, game become more smoother
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Kore on September 28, 2022, 01:57:11 pm
lets just make using wse and yellow muskets mandatory, problem solved
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 28, 2022, 01:58:44 pm
time to download then, might do a video comparison - stutters n shit and show if it's a placebo or not
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 28, 2022, 02:18:38 pm
time to download then, might do a video comparison - stutters n shit and show if it's a placebo or not
"Fietta banned from EIC"
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 28, 2022, 02:22:18 pm
time to download then, might do a video comparison - stutters n shit and show if it's a placebo or not
"Fietta banned from EIC"

Being banned from a EIC would be a blessing, means I don't have to turn up  ;)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on September 28, 2022, 02:29:33 pm
time to download then, might do a video comparison - stutters n shit and show if it's a placebo or not
"Fietta banned from EIC"

Being banned from a EIC would be a blessing, means I don't have to turn up  ;)
Real talk, I've got it downloaded hand me one of em' too.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gi on September 28, 2022, 02:44:44 pm
time to download then, might do a video comparison - stutters n shit and show if it's a placebo or not
"Fietta banned from EIC"

Being banned from a EIC would be a blessing, means I don't have to turn up  ;)
Real talk, I've got it downloaded hand me one of em' too.
me too please, gaz can takeover
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tomppa on September 28, 2022, 03:49:42 pm
The game is smoother with WSE, also maybe placebo but I feel like animation response is a lot more crisp. Although as Ivan found out it’s still very possible to have people warp through and get TKed
The warping happened a lot when I played with it. Sometimes when I'm dueling someone they just warp through me and stab through my block which results in me dying.
i had warping in m&b when my fps higher than 200
but with wse it works fine for me, game become more smoother
I'd say in general it's a lot smoother, but if you're in a duel spamming feints it seems to glitch the animations a lot easier.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on September 28, 2022, 04:43:13 pm
Can we allow painted muskets again? I want my dragon lore skin on my musket and cool looking doppler on my sabriquet
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on September 28, 2022, 07:41:04 pm
Can we allow painted muskets again? I want my dragon lore skin on my musket and cool looking doppler on my sabriquet

(https://i.imgur.com/o1tR1rH.png)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 28, 2022, 08:02:24 pm
For once a post I don’t cringe at from fietta
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on September 28, 2022, 08:04:23 pm
Can we allow painted muskets again? I want my dragon lore skin on my musket and cool looking doppler on my sabriquet

(https://i.imgur.com/o1tR1rH.png)
Piece of art.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on September 30, 2022, 12:14:14 pm
haha faze up
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Knightmare on September 30, 2022, 12:54:27 pm
its cuz of ping u bellends
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 02, 2022, 11:23:07 pm
75 fov for sure (btw there is no default pov in wse2, it can be changed at any new update, if i remember properly the first time i tried wse2 the default fov was 70 or 60):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdTb70CKcVA    you can see the comlete fight arena on screen thats can easily save you from being attacked on your side.

I can tell you guys a few more points using wse2 that can give you an advantage but i dont want. If you guys want to ban this from the competitive scene there are some ways to detec someone is using wse2, for example the admnin can ask to take an screenshot, so the player have to open the chatlog then make the screenshot or force the players to run the game showing the framerate because the framerate of wse2 is different.

But anyway a lots of players are using the wse2 in secret trying to have an advantage over of players who are using the normal game launcher and propably some admins and tournament organizers are using this too, so thats the reason why this is not banned from the competitive scene, but comically yellow bayonets or polish glitch are banned.

Thats my opinion, use wse2 isn't going to make you 3 times a better player, but can give you some advantages.


Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 02, 2022, 11:55:29 pm
Banning it now isnt fair to those who just now found out about it
But people who used this for years will not be punished(and dont need, lol), but they played with smoother game and we dont.
And WSE available to everyone why cant we just use it like others?

I dont blame yellow bayonets and natsuu glitch at all
But anyone can make yellow bayonets and and it only affects the perception for player, you dont ban color blind people do you? Also i cant see in-game settings for color-blind people, like in other games, which changes the colors so that they are the same for everyone
And "polish" glitch affects on everyone and its breaks some meta and mechanics, what most likely needs to be banned.

About FOV, its really annoing, any "good" games have FOV settings and u can choose any from 60 to 100 and its not bannable. When you increase your FOV you focus less on objects in front of you.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 12:16:17 am
If u really wants some competitive scene - think better about the rules among teams and players..
For years in this game there is a team or 2 teams that is simply the strongest and nothing can be done about it, focus on fixing this issue
Is this really interesting this guys from top1-4 teams bans everything they dont like? Bruuuuuhhhh

Also make LEAGUES, not one-day-cringenaments which dont give us the format we really want
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 03, 2022, 01:13:33 am
Im just saying, it perfectly can be considered as cheating, literally using a third party program to run the game better than the normal game players. I know some games allow you to change fov, but already normal warband let you change the 3rd person fov with ''- and +'', but not much as wse2. Cheating is cheating doesnt matter if you recently discorvered and others have been using it for years, the question is if this is cheating or not, from my perspective it perfectly can be, like some random people in the community decide for themselves (in a dictatorial way, because they are hosting some server and are admins in others) what is cheating and what is not (like some glitches, change textures...)

In a different games if you try to run the multiplayer game with a external program like this one the anticheat of the game going to detect it for sure and you will get a ban, same if you try to change the files of the game like when we change the textures in warband.
 
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 01:23:48 am
Im just saying, it perfectly can be considered as cheating, literally using a third party program to run the game better than the normal game players. I know some games allow you to change fov, but already normal warband let you change the 3rd person fov with ''- and +'', but not much as wse2. Cheating is cheating doesnt matter if you recently discorvered and others have been using it for years, the question is if this is cheating or not, from my perspective it perfectly can be, like some random people in the community decide for themselves (in a dictatorial way, because they are hosting some server and are admins in others) what is cheating and what is not (like some glitches, change textures...)

In a different games if you try to run the multiplayer game with a external program like this one the anticheat of the game going to detect it for sure and you will get a ban, same if you try to change the files of the game like when we change the textures in warband.

So is it cheating to run the game on a more powerful PC? Or with a higher FPS monitor? Because WSE can help people with worse PCs to run the game smoothly, and reduces unintended graphical glitches in the game at higher FPS too
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vertildr on October 03, 2022, 01:45:46 am
Im just saying, it perfectly can be considered as cheating, literally using a third party program to run the game better than the normal game players. I know some games allow you to change fov, but already normal warband let you change the 3rd person fov with ''- and +'', but not much as wse2. Cheating is cheating doesnt matter if you recently discorvered and others have been using it for years, the question is if this is cheating or not, from my perspective it perfectly can be, like some random people in the community decide for themselves (in a dictatorial way, because they are hosting some server and are admins in others) what is cheating and what is not (like some glitches, change textures...)

In a different games if you try to run the multiplayer game with a external program like this one the anticheat of the game going to detect it for sure and you will get a ban, same if you try to change the files of the game like when we change the textures in warband.

So is it cheating to run the game on a more powerful PC? Or with a higher FPS monitor? Because WSE can help people with worse PCs to run the game smoothly, and reduces unintended graphical glitches in the game at higher FPS too

I don't think anyone is saying the bad thing about WSE is the frame improvement. However, it is, by like every definition, something that would be considered a cheat in every game due to how it is put into it. Furthermore, there are literally ways in WSE to give you an advantage not intended by the game developers. So, it might be unfair for someone to play on a worse computer, but its not cheating on the end of the person who has a better one and I think you know that. Obviously, you were trying to equate the similarities related to framerate. Yet, that was never the main focus on if it should be allowed.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 02:06:24 am
Im just saying, it perfectly can be considered as cheating, literally using a third party program to run the game better than the normal game players. I know some games allow you to change fov, but already normal warband let you change the 3rd person fov with ''- and +'', but not much as wse2. Cheating is cheating doesnt matter if you recently discorvered and others have been using it for years, the question is if this is cheating or not, from my perspective it perfectly can be, like some random people in the community decide for themselves (in a dictatorial way, because they are hosting some server and are admins in others) what is cheating and what is not (like some glitches, change textures...)

In a different games if you try to run the multiplayer game with a external program like this one the anticheat of the game going to detect it for sure and you will get a ban, same if you try to change the files of the game like when we change the textures in warband.

So is it cheating to run the game on a more powerful PC? Or with a higher FPS monitor? Because WSE can help people with worse PCs to run the game smoothly, and reduces unintended graphical glitches in the game at higher FPS too

I don't think anyone is saying the bad thing about WSE is the frame improvement. However, it is, by like every definition, something that would be considered a cheat in every game due to how it is put into it. Furthermore, there are literally ways in WSE to give you an advantage not intended by the game developers. So, it might be unfair for someone to play on a worse computer, but its not cheating on the end of the person who has a better one and I think you know that. Obviously, you were trying to equate the similarities related to framerate. Yet, that was never the main focus on if it should be allowed.

The whole FOV thing is purely subjective though, the only objective “advantage”
Is the FPS and the lack of animation glitches, the FOV is down to personal preference and people have gone as high as 90 and as low as 73, if it was objectively absolutely better to be higher everyone would have it cranked
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 02:22:00 am
Im just saying, it perfectly can be considered as cheating, literally using a third party program to run the game better than the normal game players. I know some games allow you to change fov, but already normal warband let you change the 3rd person fov with ''- and +'', but not much as wse2. Cheating is cheating doesnt matter if you recently discorvered and others have been using it for years, the question is if this is cheating or not, from my perspective it perfectly can be, like some random people in the community decide for themselves (in a dictatorial way, because they are hosting some server and are admins in others) what is cheating and what is not (like some glitches, change textures...)

In a different games if you try to run the multiplayer game with a external program like this one the anticheat of the game going to detect it for sure and you will get a ban, same if you try to change the files of the game like when we change the textures in warband.

So is it cheating to run the game on a more powerful PC? Or with a higher FPS monitor? Because WSE can help people with worse PCs to run the game smoothly, and reduces unintended graphical glitches in the game at higher FPS too

I don't think anyone is saying the bad thing about WSE is the frame improvement. However, it is, by like every definition, something that would be considered a cheat in every game due to how it is put into it. Furthermore, there are literally ways in WSE to give you an advantage not intended by the game developers. So, it might be unfair for someone to play on a worse computer, but its not cheating on the end of the person who has a better one and I think you know that. Obviously, you were trying to equate the similarities related to framerate. Yet, that was never the main focus on if it should be allowed.

The whole FOV thing is purely subjective though, the only objective “advantage”
Is the FPS and the lack of animation glitches, the FOV is down to personal preference and people have gone as high as 90 and as low as 73, if it was objectively absolutely better to be higher everyone would have it cranked

Come on Alf you're smarter than that, anything that isn't provided by the base game is essentially cheating. The reason why people haven't had it 'cranked' is because the highest FOV is obviously comical, however, having higher FOV does change meta as you're able to see backstabs more clearly and in time, people would get used to having higher FOV, its clearly game changing however big or small. If it isn't policed in some way, it would be somewhat of a requirement to download this third-party software to achieve the same level as 'better' players, which would be exacerbated once meta changes due to higher FOV giving a clear advantage. Obviously, you could still be a 'good' player without it, but hard to say to what extent considering current meta is still around standard FOV.

WSE2 as a client does provide additional performance benefits outside of the base game, giving higher FPS (which isn't at all an issue in itself) but also stability and smooth gameplay, which can't be achieved by the standard client even with the best PC, it adds additional features to change the gameplay/performance, rather than change features already given by the standard client, which is again essentially 'cheating' as it's not offered as standard with the client. I am, however, not against WSE2 as a client, I'd rather see the skill floor increase due to people with terrible PCs actually standing a chance, but the FOV slider, absolutely not.

The reason why this is even a discussion is because reputable members of the community are using WSE2; if it was let's say joe bloggs posting this thread and none of the 'good' players had any clue what this is, then they'd absolutely be against it, but instead they've installed it, saw the benefits and now want to normalise it.

So the question is, is using WSE2 cheating? Well, if we're talking literally then it absolutely is.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 02:49:50 am
Banning it now isnt fair to those who just now found out about it
But people who used this for years will not be punished(and dont need, lol), but they played with smoother game and we dont.
And WSE available to everyone why cant we just use it like others?

I dont blame yellow bayonets and natsuu glitch at all
But anyone can make yellow bayonets and and it only affects the perception for player, you dont ban color blind people do you? Also i cant see in-game settings for color-blind people, like in other games, which changes the colors so that they are the same for everyone
And "polish" glitch affects on everyone and its breaks some meta and mechanics, what most likely needs to be banned.

About FOV, its really annoing, any "good" games have FOV settings and u can choose any from 60 to 100 and its not bannable. When you increase your FOV you focus less on objects in front of you.

You’re thinking wrong, there shouldn’t be a requirement to download a third party software, normalising cheating because it’s available to everyone is the most deluded idea I’ve ever heard, cheats in all games are available to everyone, doesn’t mean it’s not cheating.

FOV in NW is different due to it being third person rather than first (allowing to see more behind you), comparing them to other competitive games makes little sense.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 03:19:48 am
Banning it now isnt fair to those who just now found out about it
But people who used this for years will not be punished(and dont need, lol), but they played with smoother game and we dont.
And WSE available to everyone why cant we just use it like others?

I dont blame yellow bayonets and natsuu glitch at all
But anyone can make yellow bayonets and and it only affects the perception for player, you dont ban color blind people do you? Also i cant see in-game settings for color-blind people, like in other games, which changes the colors so that they are the same for everyone
And "polish" glitch affects on everyone and its breaks some meta and mechanics, what most likely needs to be banned.

About FOV, its really annoing, any "good" games have FOV settings and u can choose any from 60 to 100 and its not bannable. When you increase your FOV you focus less on objects in front of you.

You’re thinking wrong, there shouldn’t be a requirement to download a third party software, normalising cheating because it’s available to everyone is the most deluded idea I’ve ever heard, cheats in all games are available to everyone, doesn’t mean it’s not cheating.

FOV in NW is different due to it being third person rather than first (allowing to see more behind you), comparing them to other competitive games makes little sense.
how u going check FOVs? everyone should record videos for you?  ok.
or u just going ban WSE? then why "cheaters" who used it for ages and got some "palmares" with this not in ban list yet?
why should i think about what turkish guys made in 2010? this game ALLOWS to set up 1000 FPS but it cant support it coz of TaleWords cant do what did some CIS mod creator LOL

in 2022 october Saint TaleWords allowed in bannelord custom servers, what do u think about it? they are rusty imo
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on October 03, 2022, 03:29:17 am
wse2 is not cheating, and can we get the opinion of actual good players and not these freaks that claim to be tier 1 like fietta?, come ft7 now
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 03, 2022, 06:36:06 am
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on October 03, 2022, 08:20:22 am
Is cheating in singleplayer considered bad?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 03, 2022, 08:25:20 am
What he need, will be do?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: czRabixel on October 03, 2022, 10:50:32 am
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 11:16:21 am
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...

We’re not speedrunning NW though
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tomppa on October 03, 2022, 11:21:58 am
What he need, will be do?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: czRabixel on October 03, 2022, 12:04:20 pm
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...

We’re not speedrunning NW though

I would consider speedrunning competitive part of minecraft and that somewhat corelate for nw
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 12:13:27 pm
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...

We’re not speedrunning NW though

I would consider speedrunning competitive part of minecraft and that somewhat corelate for nw
ban wse for singleplayer speedruns
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 03, 2022, 01:31:02 pm
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...

We’re not speedrunning NW though

I would consider speedrunning competitive part of minecraft and that somewhat corelate for nw
Optifine is allowed in tournaments like this one https://help.generationesports.com/hc/en-us/articles/360061476731-MSEL-Minecraft-Survival-Games-Rules

It was also allowed in MCC https://www.reddit.com/r/mccomp/comments/2ycw53/mcc_rules/

Optifine is basically the same thing as wse2 but for minecraft, only difference being that one allows ppl to change their fov and the other allows ppl to zoom which is basically the same thing for their respective games but it's still allowed in actual tournaments and servers like hypixel allow cause it's main purpose is boosting fps and making the game smoother which allows more people to actually play and enjoy the game
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 03, 2022, 01:46:28 pm
Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 03, 2022, 01:47:58 pm
Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
It's literally free and anyone can get it very easily. It's not like it's only for a small group of ppl, PK players have been using it for ages
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 01:49:05 pm
before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches.

'half the time' insinuating that the game client actually doesn't by standard have those issues, I mean I definitely don't.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: czRabixel on October 03, 2022, 01:49:15 pm
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...

We’re not speedrunning NW though

I would consider speedrunning competitive part of minecraft and that somewhat corelate for nw
Optifine is allowed in tournaments like this one https://help.generationesports.com/hc/en-us/articles/360061476731-MSEL-Minecraft-Survival-Games-Rules

It was also allowed in MCC https://www.reddit.com/r/mccomp/comments/2ycw53/mcc_rules/

Optifine is basically the same thing as wse2 but for minecraft, only difference being that one allows ppl to change their fov and the other allows ppl to zoom which is basically the same thing for their respective games but it's still allowed in actual tournaments and servers like hypixel allow cause it's main purpose is boosting fps and making the game smoother which allows more people to actually play and enjoy the game

Of cause your point is right, I'm just saying that minecraft speedrun board moderators decided that you cant speedrun with optifine (on newer version), but you can use similar addons (Idk how it officially called). In this case organiser can decide if he wants to allow or ban wse and it totally up to him. So imo there is no reason to ban it permanently, and even if you do it someone who disagree and want to host tournament could allow it
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 03, 2022, 01:50:27 pm
before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches.

'half the time' insinuating that the game client actually doesn't by standard have those issues, I mean I definitely don't.
Not everyone has 10-20 ping and a beast pc
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 01:52:00 pm
before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches.

'half the time' insinuating that the game client actually doesn't by standard have those issues, I mean I definitely don't.
Not everyone has 10-20 ping and a beast pc

I mean WSE2 doesn't fix ping bro, besides, I'm not against WSE2 provides in terms of performance gain, but the trade-off of having an FOV slider is a nono
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 03, 2022, 01:55:13 pm
before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches.

'half the time' insinuating that the game client actually doesn't by standard have those issues, I mean I definitely don't.
Not everyone has 10-20 ping and a beast pc

I mean WSE2 doesn't fix ping bro, besides, I'm not against WSE2 provides in terms of performance gain, but the trade-off of having an FOV slider is a nono
wse mitigates a lot of the issues caused by ping
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: czRabixel on October 03, 2022, 01:59:17 pm
Banning wse2 for nw would be like banning optifine for Minecraft

Fun fact optifine is banned for speedrunning on newer versions of minecraft...

We’re not speedrunning NW though

I would consider speedrunning competitive part of minecraft and that somewhat corelate for nw
ban wse for singleplayer speedruns

I don't know specifics about it but if wse give some advantage to make some speedrun faster (like ai doing thinks differently) than it should be separated to own category.
Ofc if the game just run smoother it could be allowed. Great example from minecraft optifine is banned but  Fabric is ok (on newer versions), as optifine can give some advantages to the runner so you have to use alternative.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 03, 2022, 02:14:57 pm
before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches.

'half the time' insinuating that the game client actually doesn't by standard have those issues, I mean I definitely don't.
??
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 02:17:59 pm
before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches.

'half the time' insinuating that the game client actually doesn't by standard have those issues, I mean I definitely don't.
Not everyone has 10-20 ping and a beast pc

I mean WSE2 doesn't fix ping bro, besides, I'm not against WSE2 provides in terms of performance gain, but the trade-off of having an FOV slider is a nono
who wants higher FOV they got it like 4 years ago, some autoblock with file "injector.exe" allows you press minus to infinity, as i know Flusha used this file ::)

btw FOV 90 and 100 isnt that high, you just have to deal with it, assimilate it into a game rather than ban it

noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

you guys just want ban everything u dont like or too lazy to setup
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 02:25:53 pm
there is another discussion that has already ended a long time ago

why yellow bayontes banned? coz some guys just dont like them, they dont want to change anything in their games, but people who created some good prints just sniffin butt with this ruleset

i hated yellow bayonets too, but after that i tried to create some CS GO thing on my bayonet and it was more enjoyble to play with it. i mean CS GO or Dota 2, Valorant, they added skins for every weapon/character, what makes the game the most diverse

People not the same and not everyone should play with the settings that you dictate

if its gives u advantage coz u can crealry see whats happening, why dont u ban custom banners? they are doing the same. this indicates how you selectively ban what you feel uncomfortable
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 02:30:07 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 02:33:26 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
you just dont want others to play the way they want, you just make everyone fit your standards
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 02:33:46 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
you just dont want others to play the way they want, you just make everyone fit your standards

Yes, I don't want people to cheat you're right, but you type like a typical CIS player
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 02:35:25 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
you just dont want others to play the way they want, you just make everyone fit your standards

Yes, I don't want people to cheat you're right
then check full POVs from your upcomming tournament:)
ill prepare video for you if you want

you force yourself to do this check every tournament, or everyone will break your rule after first tournament
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 02:39:12 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
you just dont want others to play the way they want, you just make everyone fit your standards

Yes, I don't want people to cheat you're right
then check full POVs from your upcomming tournament:)
ill prepare video for u if u want

you force yourself to do this check every tournament, or everyone will break your rule after first tournament

Don't worry there's a far simpler way of catching it out without recording ;)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 02:40:07 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
you just dont want others to play the way they want, you just make everyone fit your standards

Yes, I don't want people to cheat you're right
then check full POVs from your upcomming tournament:)
ill prepare video for u if u want

you force yourself to do this check every tournament, or everyone will break your rule after first tournament

Don't worry there's a far simpler way of catching it out without recording ;)
so how?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 02:56:41 pm
Realistically, nobody will record their gameplay if they think they’ll get called for it, either we just accept that this is a thing people can have, and don’t make it a secret how to do it, or we make it illegal and people will still use it with all its perceived advantages they just won’t admit to it or say they do to other people
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 03:02:21 pm
noone going to check like 100-200 records for check FOV settings, noone going check 100-200 screenshots, but screens its nothing - people will change settings after sending picture

I mean if it shows FOV higher than 75, they can change the settings all they want, they still won't be able to play.
you just dont want others to play the way they want, you just make everyone fit your standards

Yes, I don't want people to cheat you're right, but you type like a typical CIS player
u dont like how i type? ban it like everything else
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 03, 2022, 03:14:19 pm
Dw guys I will install yellow muskets, laser eye pointer (yes this is a thing) to see where someone is looking, health hacks and 100 FOV and it’s fair cuz I like using it and others shouldn’t have a say in what I can and can’t use
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 03:16:41 pm
Dw guys I will install yellow muskets, laser eye pointer (yes this is a thing) to see where someone is looking, health hacks and 100 FOV and it’s fair cuz I like using it and others shouldn’t have a say in what I can and can’t use
dw guys ill call custom muskets and increased FOV cheats and ill ban it coz i want it

from extreme to extreme.

I DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT ALLOWING FOV 75+ OR YELLOW BAYONETS


these are just examples of how you call everything cheats, which is really uncomfortable for you

as i said why custom banners not banned if they breaking game rules and gives some advantage?
because its not as important as playing others with modified bayonets?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 03:22:01 pm
better tell me how you will control players FOV

ill accept it if its really possible without WSE ban
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 03:36:07 pm
God you chat a load of shit
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 03, 2022, 03:39:34 pm
After 5 quotes use a spoiler please. Save the people with shit PC's and/or internet.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 03:39:50 pm
God you chat a load of shit
your brain is badly damaged?
i understand that not everyone have iq above 80 but

my "load of shit" coming up to you because of your TRASH rules like POINTS DIFFERENCE
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 03:48:27 pm
God you chat a load of shit
your brain is badly damaged?
i understand that not everyone have iq above 80 but

my "load of shit" coming up to you because of your TRASH rules like POINTS DIFFERENCE

It's very simple; something is game breaking when outside the scope of the client, changing banners doesn't help because you can all just pick a standard banner and remember who's that is, which is what everyone does anyways.

Yellow muskets allow you to easily differentiate between friend or foe; having that additional vision from the yellow musket could save you from being side stabbed knowing it's an enemy musket. Which is probably one of the few instances where it's in the scope of the client but gives an obvious visual advantage, so isn't by definition 'cheating', but can still warrant a ban across tournaments.

If you were smart, you'd understand what's cheating and what's not.

We never used 'points difference', that was just Blitz's mistake in the bracket.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 03, 2022, 03:49:51 pm
so is the wse2 considered a "hack client" now ? if so why ?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 04:15:59 pm
People only want to ban things when other people get the opportunity to use them out of insecurity that they no longer have an advantage
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on October 03, 2022, 04:22:44 pm
Many top players used it for months or year(s) and so had advantages and they didn't got any punishment but ye now it's public so everyone can use it so some  people wanna ban it -_-
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 04:30:37 pm
People only want to ban things when other people get the opportunity to use them out of insecurity that they no longer have an advantage

Can also be the opposite, they want to keep them unbanned because they've had the advantage for a long time and don't want to risk losing it. This is pretty much the case for all the top players using it right now and are willing to have the FOV trade-off if it means they can still play with WSE2, but if they never used it, they'd also ban it, but they have and saw the advantage.

If this was a competitive game with thousands of players, all the people who've been using WSE2 before this public release would also be banned for cheating. Unfortunately, if you were to do that, you'd see about 70% of the top 30 banned.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 03, 2022, 04:41:12 pm
Cheat to the top gg
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on October 03, 2022, 04:57:46 pm
I have autoblock but im not banned yet?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 03, 2022, 04:58:24 pm
When people were mass caught using autoblock in 2015 because of the FoV slider that was included, nothing was done then, nothing will be done now.

I sleep. Yet to be AWOKEN.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on October 03, 2022, 05:04:14 pm
I have autoblock but im not banned yet?
I knew it!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Kore on October 03, 2022, 05:20:42 pm
You know what imma get it and use it, let’s see if I improve
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 03, 2022, 05:27:24 pm
Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
agree

i think it's a positive step forward for it be widespread. you don't NEED it to be good, but it does make the game feel nicer to play.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 05:34:04 pm
Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
agree

i think it's a positive step forward for it be widespread. you don't NEED it to be good, but it does make the game feel nicer to play.
literally this pls
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on October 03, 2022, 05:38:44 pm
https://youtu.be/kts0FaMtBCo
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 03, 2022, 05:43:51 pm
Realistically the FOV slider doesn't turn everyone into a beast, you won't see a drastic improvement in their ability with a higher FOV, especially if they decide to use 100 because that shit whack. Now it's something we all know about just use it or don't and get on with it. It's hardly like unblockable, autoblock, etc which we've basically done nothing about in most cases as much like this it's very hard to prove anything or detect it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 05:51:15 pm
Realistically the FOV slider doesn't turn everyone into a beast, you won't see a drastic improvement in their ability with a higher FOV, especially if they decide to use 100 because that shit whack. Now it's something we all know about just use it or don't and get on with it. It's hardly like unblockable, autoblock, etc which we've basically done nothing about in most cases as much like this it's very hard to prove anything or detect it.

Sort of. If WSE2 is installed server-side, you can detect WSE2 client versions and force-kick people who're using a specific version. You can also apparently remotely (not entirely sure what he meant by 'remotely' when speaking to him) lock FOV on the new client using WSE2 server-side.

Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
agree

i think it's a positive step forward for it be widespread. you don't NEED it to be good, but it does make the game feel nicer to play.

Positive step forward to be widespread, step backwards for NW cheating. Disappointed considering you'd usually be against cheating, but since you've had the advantage for a while and tapped into it, you don't want to get rid of it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 05:56:04 pm
Realistically the FOV slider doesn't turn everyone into a beast, you won't see a drastic improvement in their ability with a higher FOV, especially if they decide to use 100 because that shit whack. Now it's something we all know about just use it or don't and get on with it. It's hardly like unblockable, autoblock, etc which we've basically done nothing about in most cases as much like this it's very hard to prove anything or detect it.

Sort of. If WSE2 is installed server-side, you can detect WSE2 client versions and force-kick people who're using a specific version. You can also apparently remotely (not entirely sure what he meant by 'remotely' when speaking to him) lock FOV on the new client using WSE2 server-side.

Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
agree

i think it's a positive step forward for it be widespread. you don't NEED it to be good, but it does make the game feel nicer to play.

Positive step forward to be widespread, step backwards for NW cheating. Disappointed considering you'd usually be against cheating, but since you've had the advantage for a while and tapped into it, you don't want to get rid of it.
glad to see you have a good solution
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 05:58:30 pm
I think for the time being, banning WSE2 would be the best option until there's a viable fix.

After speaking with the developer of WSE2, I'm not particularly keen in remotely locking FOV on a new client, but another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version, thus keeping the performance gain, but removing FOV. I don't think the current version should be normalised or used for the time being though.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on October 03, 2022, 06:01:42 pm
Why is only the dogshits like fietta complaining??
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 03, 2022, 06:02:11 pm
Why is only the dogshits like fietta complaining??
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 06:02:23 pm
Why is only the dogshits like fietta complaining??

nice 80fov retard
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 03, 2022, 06:06:48 pm
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 03, 2022, 06:10:00 pm
Honestly everyone should be using it. Having test w2 whatever a bit, it does make the game feel like it's supposed to. before using it half the time my game would feel really janky. Missing half the feint animations, stabs being released randomly, wacky movement glitches. I think it allows for better feeling gameplay overall so imo everyone should just get it lol
agree

i think it's a positive step forward for it be widespread. you don't NEED it to be good, but it does make the game feel nicer to play.

Positive step forward to be widespread, step backwards for NW cheating. Disappointed considering you'd usually be against cheating, but since you've had the advantage for a while and tapped into it, you don't want to get rid of it.
tf ??

I think for the time being, banning WSE2 would be the best option until there's a viable fix.

After speaking with the developer of WSE2, I'm not particularly keen in remotely locking FOV on a new client, but another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version, thus keeping the performance gain, but removing FOV. I don't think the current version should be normalised or used for the time being though.
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers. The 'remote' FOV lock sounds like you just set it server side and it overrides client settings. If that's possible it's surely the best solution.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on October 03, 2022, 06:10:25 pm
Nw is dead why does it matter?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 06:10:56 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers, it's the same installation as the normal one, what are u talking about
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 03, 2022, 06:13:15 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers

another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version
This would mean you need to have the 'competitive version' downloaded to be allowed to play. Hardly seems necessary to enforce something like that if a server side solution exists.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 06:15:28 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers

another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version
This would mean you need to have the 'competitive version' downloaded to be allowed to play. Hardly seems necessary to enforce something like that if a server side solution exists.

I don't see how installing a competitive version is an issue, people aren't using it outside of NW (and if they are they won't be cheating anywhere else since there's no FOV slider!), such a strange comment - getting clarification on what he means by remote locking.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 03, 2022, 06:15:42 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers

another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version
This would mean you need to have the 'competitive version' downloaded to be allowed to play. Hardly seems necessary to enforce something like that if a server side solution exists.
Also gives no options for those who don't actually want it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 06:16:54 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers

another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version
This would mean you need to have the 'competitive version' downloaded to be allowed to play. Hardly seems necessary to enforce something like that if a server side solution exists.
Also gives no options for those who don't actually want it.

Yes, it wouldn't kick people out if you don't have, it detects if you're running WSE2 and does it's stuff based on that
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 03, 2022, 06:19:21 pm
the lengths people will go to over having an extra slider that literally just changes the camera is insanity
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 03, 2022, 06:28:25 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers

another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version
This would mean you need to have the 'competitive version' downloaded to be allowed to play. Hardly seems necessary to enforce something like that if a server side solution exists.

I don't see how installing a competitive version is an issue, people aren't using it outside of NW (and if they are they won't be cheating anywhere else since there's no FOV slider!), such a strange comment
I interpreted your comment that the server would "kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version" as meaning that anyone not using the 'competitive version', whether they want to use the steam client or WSE2, has to have your version downloaded or the server kicks them. If you just mean a replacement version of WSE2 without the FOV slider then that's a fair solution. If you mean the former, then I strongly disagree everyone should have to have a new competitive client installed to be able to play.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 03, 2022, 06:33:03 pm
I don't think a competitive version is good, since that puts up accessibility barriers.

What barriers

another option would be to have a new 'NW Competitive' version (which removes the FOV slider), install WSE2 server-side and use the kicking script to kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version
This would mean you need to have the 'competitive version' downloaded to be allowed to play. Hardly seems necessary to enforce something like that if a server side solution exists.

I don't see how installing a competitive version is an issue, people aren't using it outside of NW (and if they are they won't be cheating anywhere else since there's no FOV slider!), such a strange comment
I interpreted your comment that the server would "kick people who don't have the NW Competitive version" as meaning that anyone not using the 'competitive version', whether they want to use the steam client or WSE2, has to have your version downloaded or the server kicks them. If you just mean a replacement version of WSE2 without the FOV slider then that's a fair solution. If you mean the former, then I strongly disagree everyone should have to have a new competitive client installed to be able to play.

nah the latter
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 03, 2022, 06:38:13 pm
Yeah that's what I got from it too.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 03, 2022, 08:11:03 pm
personally its unfair advantage till everyone uses it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on October 03, 2022, 08:14:05 pm
What if we let the FSE devs put it in a new update so everyone who doesn't know about it have it too :')
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 03, 2022, 08:44:33 pm
personally its unfair advantage till everyone uses it.
what is unfair ?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 03, 2022, 09:30:49 pm
I can agree with the performance bonus for those people who have problems to run warband, but come on guys be honest some of you were using this in secret for months or years trying to have an advantange above others players, since the last nations cup, some in France were using it, probably full of Poland aswell, some in RT are using it, Renegades as well and a lot of more people for sure. (out of wse2 i cant imagine the amount of autoblockers playing competitive)

Wse2 can improve the performance, fix some client visual bugs, but some players told me chambers and kicks are easier to do, the problem is not only have a higher fov (so be able to see the full players in the arena at the same time to evade backstabs or sidestabs), out of groupfight scene you can decrease the fov to minimun in 1st person to literally zoom, you can set any key to do ctrl+j with the horse, can dismount with a key without having to look the ground pressing ''F'', you can drop your shield without sheathing the weapon first and probably others tricks im missing right now. For the native or cav players, you guys dont think it is cheating? It is allowed in native tournaments? in an imaginary LAN battle of bucharest 2022 would Taleworlds allow to use this?

Be honest and recognize it can give you some advantages, so it can be consider a cheat, but hey if the community wants to keep using it just say it is a ''legal cheat'' free for everyone to be used.






Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 04, 2022, 12:20:42 am
This Brujo guy spitting bare facts right now, legend
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: James. on October 04, 2022, 12:46:26 am
Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1809908094038230183/12AB3BC6E3D059B18F1AEB193DF15798BD326B7E/)
[close]
fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 04, 2022, 12:51:22 am
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????

the guy in that screenshot is literally using wse2 to do that so...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 04, 2022, 02:04:09 am
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????

the guy in that screenshot is literally using wse2 to do that so...
i can use the same resolution in M&B without wse..
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Hertz on October 04, 2022, 02:25:04 am
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????

the guy in that screenshot is literally using wse2 to do that so...
i can use the same resolution in M&B without wse..

I’m sure you can. But the FPS counter looks like the one that comes with WSE. And the ‘multiple screenshot mode enabled’ shows that you’re using either WSE or other mods. Or I maybe mistaken.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on October 04, 2022, 09:04:40 am
Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1809908094038230183/12AB3BC6E3D059B18F1AEB193DF15798BD326B7E/)
[close]
fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 04, 2022, 10:44:08 am
Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1809908094038230183/12AB3BC6E3D059B18F1AEB193DF15798BD326B7E/)
[close]
fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀

I mean that screenshot was a meme relating to people suspecting Achilles of using an FOV slider (which I don't at all believe but could be wrong), again I'm not against people using WSE2 for performance gain, but I am against people using the FOV slider. Do I know if RT have been using higher FOV? No, do I know if they've been using WSE2, yes, but I'm not against that.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????

the guy in that screenshot is literally using wse2 to do that so...
i can use the same resolution in M&B without wse..

I’m sure you can. But the FPS counter looks like the one that comes with WSE. And the ‘multiple screenshot mode enabled’ shows that you’re using either WSE or other mods. Or I maybe mistaken.

Yeah, he's zoomed out using WSE (at least 90FOV); if zoomed in, the character position would be in the same place as anyone else, thus not giving any benefit. Widescreen monitors come with its own drawbacks anyways.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 04, 2022, 11:50:18 am
People be bitchin
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 04, 2022, 11:52:03 am
This discussion just seems silly lol.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 04, 2022, 11:57:47 am
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????

the guy in that screenshot is literally using wse2 to do that so...
i can use the same resolution in M&B without wse..

I’m sure you can. But the FPS counter looks like the one that comes with WSE. And the ‘multiple screenshot mode enabled’ shows that you’re using either WSE or other mods. Or I maybe mistaken.
Its M&B option that enables with high resolution, bigger than usual 2K
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 04, 2022, 11:59:15 am
Spoiler
Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1809908094038230183/12AB3BC6E3D059B18F1AEB193DF15798BD326B7E/)
[close]
fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀

I mean that screenshot was a meme relating to people suspecting Achilles of using an FOV slider (which I don't at all believe but could be wrong), again I'm not against people using WSE2 for performance gain, but I am against people using the FOV slider. Do I know if RT have been using higher FOV? No, do I know if they've been using WSE2, yes, but I'm not against that.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122
higher resolution should be banned????

the guy in that screenshot is literally using wse2 to do that so...
i can use the same resolution in M&B without wse..

I’m sure you can. But the FPS counter looks like the one that comes with WSE. And the ‘multiple screenshot mode enabled’ shows that you’re using either WSE or other mods. Or I maybe mistaken.

Yeah, he's zoomed out using WSE (at least 90FOV); if zoomed in, the character position would be in the same place as anyone else, thus not giving any benefit. Widescreen monitors come with its own drawbacks anyways.
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yeah u fucked up, this screenshot with FOV 75, so u going ban my monitor like cheat or not?
special for you i can remove WSE and show u the same screenshot  :P

with fov 90 u can see ur character legs

the person who bans FOV 75+ cant even decide which one FOV im using
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 04, 2022, 12:09:04 pm
what about this screens? or you need a video?
https://imgur.com/a/oNDBSYA

FOV 90?
"multiple screen mode enabled" only for WSE2?

only difference betwen WSE2 and M&B:
in WSE2 i can manualy setup 5432 x 1528 that supported by my monitor with resolution 3840x1080
but in M&B i cant do the same thing coz shitty scroller just doesnt work, lol, but i can choose "use desctop resolution" and here it is - 3840x1080.

WSE2 - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122 5432 x 1528
M&B - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2871173901 3840x1080

so my monitor is cheat????
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: higened243ed on October 04, 2022, 12:35:18 pm
I have autoblock but im not banned yet?

Spoiler
wse2 is not cheating, and can we get the opinion of actual good players and not these freaks that claim to be tier 1 like fietta?, come ft7 now
[close]
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tomppa on October 04, 2022, 01:00:38 pm
what about this screens? or you need a video?
https://imgur.com/a/oNDBSYA

FOV 90?
"multiple screen mode enabled" only for WSE2?

only difference betwen WSE2 and M&B:
in WSE2 i can manualy setup 5432 x 1528 that supported by my monitor with resolution 3840x1080
but in M&B i cant do the same thing coz shitty scroller just dont work, lol, but i can choose "use desctop resolution" and here it is - 3840x1080.

WSE2 - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122 5432 x 1528
M&B - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2871173901 3840x1080

so my monitor is cheat????

Yes, now go buy a new one from the closest second-hand store.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 04, 2022, 01:03:08 pm
what about this screens? or you need a video?
https://imgur.com/a/oNDBSYA

FOV 90?
"multiple screen mode enabled" only for WSE2?

only difference betwen WSE2 and M&B:
in WSE2 i can manualy setup 5432 x 1528 that supported by my monitor with resolution 3840x1080
but in M&B i cant do the same thing coz shitty scroller just dont work, lol, but i can choose "use desctop resolution" and here it is - 3840x1080.

WSE2 - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870889122 5432 x 1528
M&B - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2871173901 3840x1080

so my monitor is cheat????

Yes, now go buy a new one from the closest second-hand store.
(https://media.tenor.com/qVT5Go3n9TIAAAAC/sadgecry-bttv.gif)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Shadey on October 04, 2022, 11:21:19 pm
Imagine using this instead of just using tilde key, proof that Voluble is the best player of all time.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 04, 2022, 11:29:38 pm
Imagine using this instead of just using tilde key, proof that Voluble is the best player of all time.

I can’t believe you wrote this with a straight face
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: David_Schrein on October 04, 2022, 11:31:19 pm
Shadey used WTFast. Ban
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Shadey on October 04, 2022, 11:57:39 pm
Imagine using this instead of just using tilde key, proof that Voluble is the best player of all time.

I can’t believe you wrote this with a straight face

I wrote it with a gay face

Shadey used WTFast. Ban

Sponsored by
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Kore on October 05, 2022, 10:32:52 am
Shadey used WTFast. Ban

Sponsored by

Broly
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: sidney crosby on October 05, 2022, 09:01:57 pm
game feels less shitty thanks reaps

wse2 is not cheating, and can we get the opinion of actual good players and not these freaks that claim to be tier 1 like fietta?, come ft7 now
what was the score?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on October 05, 2022, 09:38:05 pm
Just make one post. You can edit your post as many times as you want.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 05, 2022, 09:56:25 pm
Just make one post. You can edit your post as many times as you want.
shut up ur ginger
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on October 05, 2022, 10:11:31 pm
Just make one post. You can edit your post as many times as you want.
shut up ur ginger
this is factually incorrect.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Shadey on October 05, 2022, 11:05:49 pm
Shadey used WTFast. Ban

Sponsored by

Broly

Faze broky
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: MikeyBruh on October 06, 2022, 08:30:15 pm
bro leaking the only reason im good
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 08, 2022, 03:04:14 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/f8337604a7eff61152630dcb76333c09.png)

When the installation guide confirms it's cheating  8) :o

Thank you Fralla for such amazing videos, shoutout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLB3lHlsht4

Maybe thank you to coco, who's been providing quality content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4stNBjJHjw
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on October 08, 2022, 03:07:29 pm
nobody care Fietta -_-
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 08, 2022, 03:24:07 pm
nobody care Fietta -_-
Fietta doesnt know what he wants lmao
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: FENTON on October 08, 2022, 03:31:31 pm
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fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀

I have no problem with people using the Mod but the hypocrisy here is unreal, lets not pretend that rt didn't all know about wse2 fucking ages ago. If ur gonna bitch about it this much but be fine with most of the people in ur team using it you should probably take a long hard look in the mirror
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 08, 2022, 03:32:24 pm
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fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀

I have no problem with people using the Mod but the hypocrisy here is unreal, lets not pretend that rt didn't all know about wse2 fucking ages ago. If ur gonna bitch about it this much but be fine with most of the people in ur team using it you should probably take a long hard look in the mirror

Nah, to be fair, again it's FOV not really the shader change. I've never used WSE2, so I didn't know the full extent of its features. I know it was used to increase smoothness of the game, to which I said (even on this thread) that it's probably a placebo. I knew it existed sure and that it makes the game smoother for worse pcs, but that's about it. No hypocrisy here I'm afraid.

Turns out even the shader change benefits people even with high-end PCs.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 08, 2022, 03:38:18 pm
Turns out even the shader change benefits people even with high-end PCs.
Well, guess I need to install it then. Need to be in tip top shape for the 1 hour of NW I play a month
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 08, 2022, 03:58:18 pm
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fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀

I have no problem with people using the Mod but the hypocrisy here is unreal, lets not pretend that rt didn't all know about wse2 fucking ages ago. If ur gonna bitch about it this much but be fine with most of the people in ur team using it you should probably take a long hard look in the mirror
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: David_Schrein on October 08, 2022, 06:18:51 pm
By any means im open to meme and clown fietta, but out of the ATS monkey team he is the only one pushing to ban wse2
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Giorno on October 08, 2022, 06:37:48 pm
By any means im open to meme and clown fietta, but out of the ATS monkey team he is the only one pushing to ban wse2

Not true, I've switched sides  8)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Phailur on October 08, 2022, 07:06:52 pm
You can do this in minecraft without a third party tool
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 08, 2022, 07:21:48 pm
You can do this in minecraft without a third party tool

Luckily this isn't minecraft
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 08, 2022, 09:39:24 pm
By any means im open to meme and clown fietta, but out of the ATS monkey team he is the only one pushing to ban wse2
Movement calling us monkeys like he didn’t ask to be apart of the team 🙈
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 08, 2022, 09:39:54 pm
By any means im open to meme and clown fietta, but out of the ATS monkey team he is the only one pushing to ban wse2

Not true, I've switched sides  8)
Me too after hearing the top end arguments of mr fieeet
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: David_Schrein on October 08, 2022, 11:03:49 pm
By any means im open to meme and clown fietta, but out of the ATS monkey team he is the only one pushing to ban wse2
Movement calling us monkeys like he didn’t ask to be apart of the team 🙈
I offered to help out, but honestly there is no admin team since blitz just decides things on his own.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 09, 2022, 12:03:42 am
Bro you can’t be serious?? I have barely had any input in the admin team in 3 weeks. I just agree with what the majority are saying and do that x)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 09, 2022, 03:04:30 am
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fietta fine with his rt teammates using it a month ago but not the rest of nw 🤣💀🤣🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀 🤣💀

I have no problem with people using the Mod but the hypocrisy here is unreal, lets not pretend that rt didn't all know about wse2 fucking ages ago. If ur gonna bitch about it this much but be fine with most of the people in ur team using it you should probably take a long hard look in the mirror

Python where are you?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 09, 2022, 03:18:22 am
btw for the next gf match im going to be using aimbot, wallhack and 200 of fov at first person.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 09, 2022, 10:52:20 am
btw for the next gf match im going to be using aimbot, wallhack and 200 of fov at first person.
who asked?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 09, 2022, 10:53:40 am
Go back to DayZ Archangel you fuckin fuck fuck
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 09, 2022, 11:01:46 am
Go back to DayZ Archangel you fuckin fuck fuck
with pleasure, but plushka playin dota or eu4
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on October 09, 2022, 05:08:21 pm
btw for the next gf match im going to be using aimbot, wallhack and 200 of fov at first person.
who asked?

yes who asked little pussy? come 1v1 irl?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 09, 2022, 05:13:55 pm
btw for the next gf match im going to be using aimbot, wallhack and 200 of fov at first person.
who asked?

yes who asked little pussy? come 1v1 irl?
Archangel is not allowed to beat kids
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 09, 2022, 08:54:13 pm
btw for the next gf match im going to be using aimbot, wallhack and 200 of fov at first person.
who asked?

yes who asked little pussy? come 1v1 irl?

come 1v1 me little kid only quickscope (dont use acog), throwing knife allowed, normal knife is not.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 09, 2022, 08:58:25 pm
16th are now under investigation in EIC for apparantly giving out wse2 and autoblock to all their members

Surely thats the only way they can 10-0 us

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48373.msg2129256#msg2129256
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on October 09, 2022, 11:06:01 pm
btw for the next gf match im going to be using aimbot, wallhack and 200 of fov at first person.
who asked?

yes who asked little pussy? come 1v1 irl?

come 1v1 me little kid only quickscope (dont use acog), throwing knife allowed, normal knife is not.

Bet, cya nuketown 2044
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 01:31:51 pm
https://imgur.com/a/30lsf6p

hope ATS is dead.

Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 01:33:45 pm
https://imgur.com/a/30lsf6p

hope ATS is dead.

Well we were actually discussion to remove WSE2 from ATS, but it was too late; originally, we tried to see if we could limit FOV server-side but didn't have much success, so the alternative was to just ban WSE2 and use a version check server-side to detect who's using it and ban it.

Though we were still figuring it out by the time the last tournament came so never went through. I have hopes that EGS will also ban it, and I think that's sort of the plan.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 01:45:13 pm
https://imgur.com/a/30lsf6p

hope ATS is dead.

Well we were actually discussion to remove WSE2 from ATS, but it was too late; originally, we tried to see if we could limit FOV server-side but didn't have much success, so the alternative was to just ban WSE2 and use a version check server-side to detect who's using it and ban it.

Though we were still figuring it out by the time the last tournament came so never went through. I have hopes that EGS will also ban it, and I think that's sort of the plan.
who cares which FOV people using? I personally play with FOV75 (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2873594234) and i dont really care if my enemy playing with FOV100. This is the price for a good and responsive game. I really hate this rusty game without WSE2, its like broken bike.

FOV100 can see more? ok. Fietta, who really wants to see more - they can use other hacks that cant be detected by your server. Its like someone banned "yellow bayonets" people still using it. they just dont post screens or POVs from tournament.

I saw many tournaments and backstabs still dont decide(even considering that some have already used wse), backstabs being called from teammates if they have a microphone.

Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 01:46:32 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed, time to uninstall and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. :(
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 01:48:15 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 01:52:50 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:00:21 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
people used it for years and now they ban it beacuse everyone got this advantage and more optionts to play a bit better

are you not ashamed of such shit?

Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 10, 2022, 02:11:21 pm
someone link me yellow musket stuff
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: FENTON on October 10, 2022, 02:13:49 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
people used it for years and now they ban it beacuse everyone got this advantage and more optionts to play a bit better

are you not ashamed of such shit?

Wasn’t a problem when only the good players had it 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:19:20 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
people used it for years and now they ban it beacuse everyone got this advantage and more optionts to play a bit better

are you not ashamed of such shit?

Wasn’t a problem when only the good players had it 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
true
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 02:26:38 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
people used it for years and now they ban it beacuse everyone got this advantage and more optionts to play a bit better

are you not ashamed of such shit?

you highlight 'a bit better' on the basis of only using the performance benefit, the performance benefit isn't a good enough trade-off for more obvious game breaking cheats. I understand CIS players have a track record of advocating cheating, but it's clear that the discussion isn't about the performance gain.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 10, 2022, 02:32:03 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
people used it for years and now they ban it beacuse everyone got this advantage and more optionts to play a bit better

are you not ashamed of such shit?

you highlight 'a bit better' on the basis of only using the performance benefit, the performance benefit isn't a good enough trade-off for more obvious game breaking cheats. I understand CIS players have a track record of advocating cheating, but it's clear that the discussion isn't about the performance gain.
?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 02:33:15 pm
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For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 02:35:05 pm
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 10, 2022, 02:35:15 pm
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For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 02:36:04 pm
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:42:48 pm
Unlucky mate, you can keep crying but it'll be policed
10ping gays cant undestand which rusty game we are playing without WSE2

im not going to delete this and if it will be banned - then im not playing this shitty tournament that based on ATS team opinion.

i didnt see any comments from tier1 players about it, only Achilles's one

Considering the whole of the ATS admin team were using WSE2 (apart from me) in combination of one literally posting this thread and we were still going to police it, then if anything our opinion has more value than yours.
people used it for years and now they ban it beacuse everyone got this advantage and more optionts to play a bit better

are you not ashamed of such shit?

you highlight 'a bit better' on the basis of only using the performance benefit, the performance benefit isn't a good enough trade-off for more obvious game breaking cheats. I understand CIS players have a track record of advocating cheating, but it's clear that the discussion isn't about the performance gain.
your t1-2 players is cheaters not CIS players that dont even know about MM
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:46:35 pm
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.
ye we should play on servers from your home instead of german one 8)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 02:48:13 pm
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.
ye we should play on servers from your home instead of german one 8)

German servers are central, besides if you're going to tell me having 40 ping makes you a bad player, then I'm cringing. Uninstall WSE2, stop crying and play better, it's that simple. There's been fewer top German players with less than 10 ping than top players above that into the 40/50s.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:51:11 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 02:51:52 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:54:49 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.
ye we should play on servers from your home instead of german one 8)

German servers are central, besides if you're going to tell me having 40 ping makes you a bad player, then I'm cringing. Uninstall WSE2, stop crying and play better, it's that simple. There's been fewer top German players with less than 10 ping than top players above that into the 40/50s.
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about pings - check any final and you will find out how many t1 players have ping higher that 30.
im not sayin that ping 40-50 is bad. ;) only 1 thing is bad - i played with 40-60 ping against 10-20 ping and they used WSE2, but when i can use WSE2 they just ban it  🤡
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on October 10, 2022, 02:55:21 pm
Since I was (maybe) the first one to use WSE2 in the western EU community I read a little bit because I was interested, there is a point missing though how do people with 240hz monitor play the game? Personally, what pushed me to install WSE2 at the time was the fact that I could not play with my 240hz on the original launcher because my game was suffering from random teleportations, I think that all users should raise a fund to pay the developer of WSE2 to make a "legal" version without FOV, problem solved and everyone is happy.

The favorite player of your favorite player, Zayden  :-*
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:56:26 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 02:57:09 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords

WSE put a band-aid on your PC, if clearly you're not getting decent gameplay without the changed shaders, then you have a driver issue. If you're too lazy to figure out why it's running bad and want to install WSE2 to fix it for the cheat trade-off, then you're stupid. People who're having issues with the game isn't actually the game itself in most cases (as it runs fine for me), it means it's an issue with what you're using to run the game :)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 02:59:28 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords

WSE put a band-aid on your PC, if clearly you're not getting decent gameplay without the changed shaders, then you have a driver issue. If you're too lazy to figure out why it's running bad and want to install WSE2 to fix it for the cheat trade-off, then you're stupid. People who're having issues with the game isn't actually the game itself in most cases (as it runs fine for me), it means it's an issue with what you're using to run the game :)
set-up 1000fps ill watch how your trash PC gonna carry this without any teleports
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:00:13 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords

WSE put a band-aid on your PC, if clearly you're not getting decent gameplay without the changed shaders, then you have a driver issue. If you're too lazy to figure out why it's running bad and want to install WSE2 to fix it for the cheat trade-off, then you're stupid. People who're having issues with the game isn't actually the game itself in most cases (as it runs fine for me), it means it's an issue with what you're using to run the game :)
set-up 1000fps ill watch how your trash PC gonna carry this without any teleports

Then don't have 1000fps, WSE2 doesn't fix the teleporting from really high FPS, it just changes shaders for performance benefit
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chainsor on October 10, 2022, 03:00:43 pm
i dont get how this is still a discussion
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 03:03:43 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords

WSE put a band-aid on your PC, if clearly you're not getting decent gameplay without the changed shaders, then you have a driver issue. If you're too lazy to figure out why it's running bad and want to install WSE2 to fix it for the cheat trade-off, then you're stupid. People who're having issues with the game isn't actually the game itself in most cases (as it runs fine for me), it means it's an issue with what you're using to run the game :)
set-up 1000fps ill watch how your trash PC gonna carry this without any teleports

Then don't have 1000fps
if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

UPD: WSE2 with 60fps lock faster than my M&B
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:04:44 pm
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.

Besides, it's most likely going to be banned, so best fix your issues now rather than bank on it not being banned.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 03:08:48 pm
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.
you saw my screenshots with my main resolution? my screen allows me see the same(ofc if ill use my resolution)  so there is a legal FOV cheat  for people who can by monitor for 1000$, like 240-320hz monitors(which one for sure dont work fine with M&B)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:09:29 pm
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.
you saw my screenshots with my main resolution? my screen allows me see the same(ofc if ill use my resolution)  so there is a legal FOV cheat is for people who can by monitor for 1000$, like 240-320hz monitors(which one for sure dont work fine with M&B)

Nah you're able to see behind your character, not just more to the left and right and screenshots can also be quite deceiving
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 03:11:39 pm
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.
you saw my screenshots with my main resolution? my screen allows me see the same(ofc if ill use my resolution)  so there is a legal FOV cheat is for people who can by monitor for 1000$, like 240-320hz monitors(which one for sure dont work fine with M&B)

Nah you're able to see behind your character, not just more to the left and right
seein more on left and right - so i can see how people coming to backstab me  ???
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:13:01 pm
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.
you saw my screenshots with my main resolution? my screen allows me see the same(ofc if ill use my resolution)  so there is a legal FOV cheat is for people who can by monitor for 1000$, like 240-320hz monitors(which one for sure dont work fine with M&B)

Nah you're able to see behind your character, not just more to the left and right
seein more on left and right - so i can see how people coming to backstab me  ???

Lucky you then, doesn't mean there should be some additional FOV copium which allows to see directly behind ur character, which is outside the scope of larger monitors, larger monitors also have the drawback of actually having to move your head to see to that side, so even though you see more, you also have to look more, and it still doesn't let you see behind you.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 10, 2022, 03:17:55 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords

WSE put a band-aid on your PC, if clearly you're not getting decent gameplay without the changed shaders, then you have a driver issue. If you're too lazy to figure out why it's running bad and want to install WSE2 to fix it for the cheat trade-off, then you're stupid. People who're having issues with the game isn't actually the game itself in most cases (as it runs fine for me), it means it's an issue with what you're using to run the game :)
set-up 1000fps ill watch how your trash PC gonna carry this without any teleports

Then don't have 1000fps, WSE2 doesn't fix the teleporting from really high FPS, it just changes shaders for performance benefit
it does fix it
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:18:29 pm
Spoiler
how about everyone with under 20 ping also has to start downloading steam games with full bandwidth to make tournaments fair

Yes, it's actually my fault that their infrastructure is shit and ours is better. Now I'll download games during gameplay to match them. Even so, the shader changes benefits people with less ping too, so both the shit players and the good players gain benefits, so the gap doesn't change much. People clearly aren't upset with the base game, otherwise these same players wouldn't be playing it if it's too bad, there's plenty of 40+ ping players who've played at top level.

?
For CIS players the performance benefit is more meaningful because they play with worse ping. In what way are you inferring the "CIS players" you're referring to are cheating?

When you know you know, but again the trade-off is weak for as Archangel said 'a bit better' performance
Unless you suspect all of RT and Renegades, and Amaterasu before them, were cheating by using WSE2 I don't see why you'd levy particular suspicion at people using it now that it's more publicised.

WSE2 as a client isn't cheating, I'm talking about the use of FOV which is clearly cheating but is at this point in time, impossible to police, so just ban the client then bobs your uncle, we all play how the game is originally intended, sounds like a big W to me. The trade-off is too weak to warrant using it.

People have been playing at top level without WSE2 for years, if you're too incapable of performing without it, then you're shit, especially so much so that you want to allow cheating for a bit of a performance boost. It's funny at this point.
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i want to play with WSE because the game feels like it should be. im playin with 2080ti in M&B with 50-60ping and FPS 200 and my 144hz monitor, but game feels like 60 fps with Vsync, i saw many videos from tournaments with 60fps lock from youtube and I want to say that even there the game looks faster than mine.

with WSE game feels like on videos and thats all.

You should fix your PC then, I have a worse PC and it's playing fine, people who're having stuttering is on their end, fix that first and you'll probably find it's fine.
WSE fixed my M&B instead of turks from talewords

WSE put a band-aid on your PC, if clearly you're not getting decent gameplay without the changed shaders, then you have a driver issue. If you're too lazy to figure out why it's running bad and want to install WSE2 to fix it for the cheat trade-off, then you're stupid. People who're having issues with the game isn't actually the game itself in most cases (as it runs fine for me), it means it's an issue with what you're using to run the game :)
set-up 1000fps ill watch how your trash PC gonna carry this without any teleports

Then don't have 1000fps, WSE2 doesn't fix the teleporting from really high FPS, it just changes shaders for performance benefit
it does fix it

1000fps gameplay nice, can already smell the screen tearing from here
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 03:19:21 pm
Spoiler
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.
you saw my screenshots with my main resolution? my screen allows me see the same(ofc if ill use my resolution)  so there is a legal FOV cheat is for people who can by monitor for 1000$, like 240-320hz monitors(which one for sure dont work fine with M&B)

Nah you're able to see behind your character, not just more to the left and right
seein more on left and right - so i can see how people coming to backstab me  ???

Lucky you then, doesn't mean there should be some additional FOV copium which allows to see directly behind ur character, which is outside the scope of larger monitors, larger monitors also have the drawback of actually having to move your head to see to that side, so even though you see more, you also have to look more, and it still doesn't let you see behind you.
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reasonable fact
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:19:55 pm
Spoiler
It's just funny, Fralla's video (which is obviously a meme video) shows around 85-90FOV, being able to see an extra foot behind him with little warping and people still want this because people get a bit smoother gameplay.

It's a no brainer to me.


if u really that smart can u give me instruction how to fix my teleports and slow stabs/block on 200-300 fps and 144hz monitor? i played many years ago and game wasnt that slow with 70hz monitor from Uganda.

I mean, you should probably do necessary cleaning and updating drivers etc, I'm sure there's many youtube videos showing how to improve PC performance0 and fix issues like these. Same for anyone else really.
you saw my screenshots with my main resolution? my screen allows me see the same(ofc if ill use my resolution)  so there is a legal FOV cheat is for people who can by monitor for 1000$, like 240-320hz monitors(which one for sure dont work fine with M&B)

Nah you're able to see behind your character, not just more to the left and right
seein more on left and right - so i can see how people coming to backstab me  ???

Lucky you then, doesn't mean there should be some additional FOV copium which allows to see directly behind ur character, which is outside the scope of larger monitors, larger monitors also have the drawback of actually having to move your head to see to that side, so even though you see more, you also have to look more, and it still doesn't let you see behind you.
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reasonable fact

It's a reason why CSGO players play 800x600, no one wants to hurt their neck :P
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Skaen on October 10, 2022, 03:24:39 pm
I have seen people play with 100 ping and above on the Groupfighting server and in events when WSE2 wasn't a thing or not very popular yet that people didn't really know about it. If they can perform well and be a challenge for other players, I don't see the need to keep complaining about wanting to use WSE2.

Spoiler
RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS LIKE TO CHEAT AND HACK. ADMIT IT!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 10, 2022, 03:36:44 pm
I have seen people play with 100 ping and above on the Groupfighting server and in events when WSE2 wasn't a thing or not very popular yet that people didn't really know about it. If they can perform well and be a challenge for other players, I don't see the need to keep complaining about wanting to use WSE2.

Spoiler
RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS LIKE TO CHEAT AND HACK. ADMIT IT!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The discussion is not about, and has never been about, whether it's possible to play at a good level without WSE2.

@Fietta if there was a version of the client without an FOV slider, and the server side tools existed to determine which WSE2 version each player is using as a method of enforcement, would you have any issue with WSE2 being used?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:37:53 pm
I have seen people play with 100 ping and above on the Groupfighting server and in events when WSE2 wasn't a thing or not very popular yet that people didn't really know about it. If they can perform well and be a challenge for other players, I don't see the need to keep complaining about wanting to use WSE2.

Spoiler
RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS LIKE TO CHEAT AND HACK. ADMIT IT!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The discussion is not about, and has never been about, whether it's possible to play at a good level without WSE2.

@Fietta if there was a version of the client without an FOV slider, and the server side tools existed to determine which WSE2 version each player is using as a method of enforcement, would you have any issue with WSE2 being used?

no
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 03:41:53 pm
i found out in WSE server configuration that you can select FOV for 3rd and 1st persons for your server

also ill try to conctact people who can manually check it with me
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:42:29 pm
i found out in WSE server configuration that you can select FOV for 3rd and 1st persons for your server

Doesn't work with older versions though, it bypasses it and the changing of client FOV is up in the air at the moment as we're not ENTIRELY sure how it works or if it does work.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 03:56:30 pm
cant u guys just make a poll to decide whether people care about wse2 or not
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 03:57:35 pm
cant u guys just make a poll to decide whether people care about wse2 or not

No because people are dumb and polls can easily be rigged
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 03:59:05 pm
how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:02:33 pm
how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on October 10, 2022, 04:03:57 pm
how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd

Fse has removed the option to mail in votes they can’t be rigged anymore
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on October 10, 2022, 04:05:11 pm
if 99% of the community don't wanna ban it and Fietta want to ban it just ban it, it's fine when it's private and used by most of the top player but not when it's public and also helping people with shit internet ect and ye I guess we got already too much people playing the game it's gonna help people to keep playin  :)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:06:04 pm
if 99% of the community don't wanna ban it and Fietta want to ban it just ban it, it's fine when it's private and used by most of the top player but not when it's public and also helping people with shit internet ect and ye I guess we got already too much people playing the game it's gonna help people to keep playin  :)

You'd be surprised at how many want it banned, which is exactly why it's most likely going to be banned in EGS and was planned to be policed in ATS.

The rest of your comment is dumb, and I've answered it about 100 times before
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:06:33 pm
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 04:06:56 pm
how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
That's not rigging that's incompetence.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 04:07:35 pm
how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:08:26 pm
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 04:10:47 pm
Let's be honest if everyone was that upset it was banned it wouldn't be hard to just boycott ATS tournaments, but I have a feeling that neither side really care that much to do so.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:13:16 pm
Let's be honest if everyone was that upset it was banned it wouldn't be hard to just boycott ATS tournaments, but I have a feeling that neither side really care that much to do so.
that's because there's no alternatives. if people want to play tourneys there's usually only 1 group hosting them.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:13:44 pm
Let's be honest if everyone was that upset it was banned it wouldn't be hard to just boycott ATS tournaments, but I have a feeling that neither side really care that much to do so.
that's because there's no alternatives. if people want to play tourneys there's usually only 1 group hosting them.

Unfortunate
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:14:21 pm
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:15:43 pm
polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.

Yeah, and that's moronic because that's advocating cheating - silly statement

polls can be accurate lol.

Sure if you've got them tied to a chair
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 04:17:00 pm
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you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
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Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:17:04 pm
it's advocating for a better gameplay experience for a large part of the community...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on October 10, 2022, 04:17:33 pm
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:18:13 pm

Sure if you've got them tied to a chair
lack of imagination born from incompetence or not wanting to do one hmmm
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:19:01 pm
Spoiler
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
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Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)

People don't have access to fse + shouldn't be required to install a third party software to play the game, this is just moronity at this point.

it's advocating for a better gameplay experience for a large part of the community...

It's advocating cheating
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:20:16 pm
it's advocating for a better gameplay experience for a large part of the community...

It's advocating cheating
i see you turned your brain off
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:20:40 pm
it's advocating for a better gameplay experience for a large part of the community...

It's advocating cheating
i see you turned your brain off

Don't think yours has ever been switch on
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:21:14 pm
Spoiler
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
[close]
Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)
People don't have access to fse + shouldn't be required to install a third party software to play the game, this is just moronity at this point.
as if there's something stopping people from doing it. it's not like it's behind a paywall or an unknown tool.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 04:21:37 pm
Spoiler
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
[close]
Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)

People don't have access to fse + shouldn't be required to install a third party software to play the game, this is just moronity at this point.

it's advocating for a better gameplay experience for a large part of the community...

It's advocating cheating
You don't need 'access' to FSE or TaleWorlds to install WSE2 (as you don't need an account it's there publically), you need access to the internet which everyone playing NW has. Yes it shouldn't be required but it has plenty of benefits and the one negative everyone has the option of utilising themselves, if people don't take advantage of that now knowing they can it's hardly 'unfair'.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:22:01 pm
Spoiler
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
[close]
Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)
People don't have access to fse + shouldn't be required to install a third party software to play the game, this is just moronity at this point.
as if there's something stopping people from doing it. it's not like it's behind a paywall or an unknown tool.

Another nonism comment, It shouldn't be required to install a third-party cheating tool

Spoiler
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
[close]
Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)

People don't have access to fse + shouldn't be required to install a third party software to play the game, this is just moronity at this point.

it's advocating for a better gameplay experience for a large part of the community...

It's advocating cheating
You don't need 'access' to FSE or TaleWorlds to install WSE2 (as you don't need an account it's there publically), you need access to the internet which everyone playing NW has. Yes it shouldn't be required but it has plenty of benefits and the one negative everyone has the option of utilising themselves, if people don't take advantage of that now knowing they can it's hardly 'unfair'.


Another nonism comment, It shouldn't be required to install a third-party cheating tool
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:23:03 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 04:23:49 pm
Spoiler
you realize how egoistical you're coming across? if majority of the players don't care about this why are you so hell bent on making it worse for most of the players? I'm pretty sure you could make a thread on ats sub-forum with a poll if you wanted to, but if you're just afraid of seeing the results. If most people voted to ban it, I would be fine with that, seeing you, alone, pushing for this just makes no sense to me.

Already said why polls aren't accurate, and it's not about being egotistical, it's about the obvious poor cheating trade-off the client gives.

how can polls on this forum be rigged? and people disagreeing with you don't make them dumb

Ask the community representative poll, people don't know what they want and follow a crowd
just like you convinced your friends that they are cheaters

Wrong, as I said before, don't mind WSE2 for the performance benefit but it's almost impossible to police FOV so banning it would be easier, if there's a way then of course it's fine as I've said now about 100000 times on this thread, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes

polls can be accurate lol. also, there are people who would be willing to make that tradeoff, not everyone cares about some people playing with higher fov, if they get a more consistent gameplay that comes with using wse2.
[close]
Yeah I personally can't see a reason to care when everyone can change their FoV at this point, it's no different to that V-Sync setting or anything else like that that's a simple setting that improves your gameplay. Next we'll say you have to use the same DPI/Sensitivity because playing on higher sense is an advantage.  ::)
People don't have access to fse + shouldn't be required to install a third party software to play the game, this is just moronity at this point.
as if there's something stopping people from doing it. it's not like it's behind a paywall or an unknown tool.

Another nonism comment, It shouldn't be required to install a third-party cheating tool
It's not required, it's optional. But ofc if you do not utilise it now you would be doing yourself a disservice due to the benefits. I find it ironic that rather than punishing the many players using this for months/years using the advantage face no punishment, yet everyone else who has only just found out and now get the benefits are effectively losing them instantly.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:23:59 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?

Advocates cheating, gives obvious benefits over the base game, once cheating has been normalised, it opens a can of worms for other third party clients
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:25:20 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?

Advocates cheating, gives obvious benefits over the base game, once cheating has been normalised, it opens a can of worms for other third party clients
literal slippery slope, people want it for the more consistent gameplay experience, the fov slider is a necessarily evil at the moment and there are a lot of people ok with that tradeoff. that doesn't mean that people are suddenly going to be ok with autoblocking and unblockable
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:25:51 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?

Advocates cheating, gives obvious benefits over the base game, once cheating has been normalised, it opens a can of worms for other third party clients
literal slippery slope, people want it for the more consistent gameplay experience, the fov slider is a necessarily evil at the moment and there are a lot of people ok with that tradeoff. that doesn't mean that people are suddenly going to be ok with autoblocking and unblockable

consistent gameplay when the base game isn't even bad is a terrible trade-off for cheating
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:27:13 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?

Advocates cheating, gives obvious benefits over the base game, once cheating has been normalised, it opens a can of worms for other third party clients
literal slippery slope, people want it for the more consistent gameplay experience, the fov slider is a necessarily evil at the moment and there are a lot of people ok with that tradeoff. that doesn't mean that people are suddenly going to be ok with autoblocking and unblockable

consistent gameplay when the base game isn't even bad is a terrible trade-off for cheating
you just don't know...  you can't know and your unwillingness to understand and listen to other people's experiences is a bad trait for a tournament hoster.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 04:28:37 pm
The only people who are advocating trying to get it 'banned' are people who supposedly knew about it before. Funny how there was no discussion to remove it when it was kept within close circles.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fralla8 on October 10, 2022, 04:28:59 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?

Advocates cheating, gives obvious benefits over the base game, once cheating has been normalised, it opens a can of worms for other third party clients
literal slippery slope, people want it for the more consistent gameplay experience, the fov slider is a necessarily evil at the moment and there are a lot of people ok with that tradeoff. that doesn't mean that people are suddenly going to be ok with autoblocking and unblockable

consistent gameplay when the base game isn't even bad is a terrible trade-off for cheating

the base game is dog shit garbage
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 04:29:11 pm
its not a requirement ?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ? ?? ? ?

Advocates cheating, gives obvious benefits over the base game, once cheating has been normalised, it opens a can of worms for other third party clients
literal slippery slope, people want it for the more consistent gameplay experience, the fov slider is a necessarily evil at the moment and there are a lot of people ok with that tradeoff. that doesn't mean that people are suddenly going to be ok with autoblocking and unblockable

consistent gameplay when the base game isn't even bad is a terrible trade-off for cheating
you just don't know...  you can't know and your unwillingness to understand and listen to other people's experiences is a bad trait for a tournament hoster.

Then you've not been reading what I wrote, but I'll write it for the 10th time so you understand correctly; I'm not against WSE2 as a performance gain, I think that's beneficial, but the trade-off with cheating is bad and doesn't warrant its use. I'll go back to Gibby's point which is an obvious solution.

I have seen people play with 100 ping and above on the Groupfighting server and in events when WSE2 wasn't a thing or not very popular yet that people didn't really know about it. If they can perform well and be a challenge for other players, I don't see the need to keep complaining about wanting to use WSE2.

Spoiler
RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS LIKE TO CHEAT AND HACK. ADMIT IT!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
[close]
The discussion is not about, and has never been about, whether it's possible to play at a good level without WSE2.

@Fietta if there was a version of the client without an FOV slider, and the server side tools existed to determine which WSE2 version each player is using as a method of enforcement, would you have any issue with WSE2 being used?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 04:31:38 pm
going in circles now. we still don't know how many people are ok with using wse2 and how many are against it. considering the amount of discourse there's been surrounding this subject I think it's worthwhile to find out what the census is.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Coco. on October 10, 2022, 04:40:49 pm
going in circles now. we still don't know how many people are ok with using wse2 and how many are against it. considering the amount of discourse there's been surrounding this subject I think it's worthwhile to find out what the census is.
we know Fietta is against it so topic over mate unlucky :(
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on October 10, 2022, 04:43:39 pm
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Ex native player wants to order nw players how to play the game correctly on their own module🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 04:52:11 pm
Since I was (maybe) the first one to use WSE2 in the western EU community I read a little bit because I was interested, there is a point missing though how do people with 240hz monitor play the game? Personally, what pushed me to install WSE2 at the time was the fact that I could not play with my 240hz on the original launcher because my game was suffering from random teleportations, I think that all users should raise a fund to pay the developer of WSE2 to make a "legal" version without FOV, problem solved and everyone is happy.

The favorite player of your favorite player, Zayden  :-*
https://youtu.be/OqFEX9neEfA

My games with 240hz monitor everytime without wse2. Now fietta go fuck your mom the *Snip*.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 10, 2022, 04:54:08 pm
Since I was (maybe) the first one to use WSE2 in the western EU community I read a little bit because I was interested, there is a point missing though how do people with 240hz monitor play the game? Personally, what pushed me to install WSE2 at the time was the fact that I could not play with my 240hz on the original launcher because my game was suffering from random teleportations, I think that all users should raise a fund to pay the developer of WSE2 to make a "legal" version without FOV, problem solved and everyone is happy.

The favorite player of your favorite player, Zayden  :-*
https://youtu.be/OqFEX9neEfA

My games with 240hz monitor everytime without wse2. Now fietta go fuck your mom the *Snip*.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on October 10, 2022, 04:55:16 pm
Since I was (maybe) the first one to use WSE2 in the western EU community I read a little bit because I was interested, there is a point missing though how do people with 240hz monitor play the game? Personally, what pushed me to install WSE2 at the time was the fact that I could not play with my 240hz on the original launcher because my game was suffering from random teleportations, I think that all users should raise a fund to pay the developer of WSE2 to make a "legal" version without FOV, problem solved and everyone is happy.

The favorite player of your favorite player, Zayden  :-*
https://youtu.be/OqFEX9neEfA

My games with 240hz monitor everytime without wse2. Now fietta go fuck your mom the *Snip*.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 05:00:00 pm
My games with 240hz monitor everytime without wse2. Now fietta go fuck your mom the *Snip*.

Unfortunate for you
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 10, 2022, 05:01:03 pm
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/09/nobody-wants-ginger-children/337831/
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 05:02:19 pm
My games with 240hz monitor everytime without wse2. Now fietta go fuck your mom the *Snip*.

Unfortunate for you
https://youtu.be/f_NLdGho2JQ

You can see me go though someone with the normal game. Like fralla in wse2.
So still go fuck your mom the *Snip*.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 05:02:58 pm
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/09/nobody-wants-ginger-children/337831/

We're witches ready to cast a spell on any WSE2 users
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 05:04:27 pm
Fietta biggest keyboard warriors on native, fietta biggest keyboard warrions on nw
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 10, 2022, 05:07:20 pm
Fietta biggest keyboard warriors on native, fietta biggest keyboard warrions on nw
TryingToBeRelevant.com
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 10, 2022, 05:08:32 pm
Fietta biggest keyboard warriors on native, fietta biggest keyboard warrions on nw
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 05:12:24 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 05:24:16 pm
How have you retards done another 5 pages of this today already

Haven't had a drama thread like this in a while, never see cela
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Nightwing on October 10, 2022, 05:34:37 pm
How have you retards done another 5 pages of this today already

Haven't had a drama thread like this in a while, never see cela
But you have to admit aswell, after a long monday at work you love to see it don't you?  :D

Spoiler
I can't be the only one right guys? ???? :-[
[close]
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 05:36:48 pm
Monday, Wednesday...doesn't matter when but clowning on Fietta is always welcomed  ;D
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 05:55:27 pm
How have you retards done another 5 pages of this today already

Haven't had a drama thread like this in a while, never see cela
But you have to admit aswell, after a long monday at work you love to see it don't you?  :D

Spoiler
I can't be the only one right guys? ???? :-[
[close]
I'd rather see you on pro clubs.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 05:58:57 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 06:09:41 pm
"Im not against WSE2 but i gonna ban it" (Fietta)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 06:12:58 pm
Monday, Wednesday...doesn't matter when but clowning on Fietta is always welcomed  ;D
dayz queues is so long
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 06:17:08 pm
"Im not against WSE2 but i gonna ban it" (Fietta)

?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 06:19:29 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
S2 tots S3 tots, S3 4th best player in stats, NWWC 2022 winners and you ? You in you make your team loose, when you went in playing for nss instead of envy lfor the last tournament you get destroy
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 06:22:31 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
S2 tots S3 tots, S3 4th best player in stats, NWWC 2022 winners and you ? You in you make your team loose, when you went in playing for nss instead of envy lfor the last tournament you get destroy

And what about the past 6 months? You still haven't learned to sheathe ur musket in rotations

Anyways, we can keep bashing each other about how we play but ultimately get nowhere - FOV changing is quite obviously a significant cheat that needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 06:24:27 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
S2 tots S3 tots, S3 4th best player in stats, NWWC 2022 winners and you ? You in you make your team loose, when you went in playing for nss instead of envy lfor the last tournament you get destroy

And what about the past 6 months? You still haven't learned to sheathe ur musket in rotations

Anyways, we can keep bashing each other about how we play but ultimately get nowhere - FOV changing is quite obviously a significant cheat that needs to be addressed.
Before oppening your mouth you should know how to watch a round moron, but the differece beetwen you and me is you are just a trash cunt keyboard warriors who get carry by 5 top players. if you join nss or team like that you will simply not do anything.

You should not speak fucking *snip*
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: crazypro25. on October 10, 2022, 06:37:23 pm
I can't be the only one right guys? ???? :-[
No you're definitly not and it seems like it just starts to get interesting
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on October 10, 2022, 06:40:49 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
S2 tots S3 tots, S3 4th best player in stats, NWWC 2022 winners and you ? You in you make your team loose, when you went in playing for nss instead of envy lfor the last tournament you get destroy

Achilles + Chucky = Best flank of all time , fietta is shit stfu go play native little rat.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 06:44:43 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
S2 tots S3 tots, S3 4th best player in stats, NWWC 2022 winners and you ? You in you make your team loose, when you went in playing for nss instead of envy lfor the last tournament you get destroy

And what about the past 6 months? You still haven't learned to sheathe ur musket in rotations

Anyways, we can keep bashing each other about how we play but ultimately get nowhere - FOV changing is quite obviously a significant cheat that needs to be addressed.
Before oppening your mouth you should know how to watch a round moron, but the differece beetwen you and me is you are just a trash cunt keyboard warriors who get carry by 5 top players. if you join nss or team like that you will simply not do anything.

You should not speak fucking

You’re going down on lists whilst I’m going up 8)

Now be quiet child, this isn’t about you or me
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 07:03:57 pm
Anyway fietta will still be achilles's bottom bitch cocksucker wse2 or not.

Weren't you that in Amaterasu?
S2 tots S3 tots, S3 4th best player in stats, NWWC 2022 winners and you ? You in you make your team loose, when you went in playing for nss instead of envy lfor the last tournament you get destroy

And what about the past 6 months? You still haven't learned to sheathe ur musket in rotations

Anyways, we can keep bashing each other about how we play but ultimately get nowhere - FOV changing is quite obviously a significant cheat that needs to be addressed.
Before oppening your mouth you should know how to watch a round moron, but the differece beetwen you and me is you are just a trash cunt keyboard warriors who get carry by 5 top players. if you join nss or team like that you will simply not do anything.

You should not speak fucking

You’re going down on lists whilst I’m going up 8)

Now be quiet child, this isn’t about you or me
When you thought i was 14 year old you talk to me everyday, when you know that i was 22 you stop talking to me, get out of here keyboard warriors, you are a cunt on native and on here.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 07:06:05 pm
It’s why I only talk to 12 year old 45thN_Jake and no one else in this game, you caught me. I talked to you everyday when you were part of Amaterasu, which was obviously when I already knew your age (I never thought you were 14 anyways, don't know where you got that idea from) we even added each other on snap! Prior to that I did give you advice on the Obelix situation saying that he’s a joke when I didn't know you that well, but we didn't talk then. I think this is a more personal issue we can solve x

It’s ok Chuckster, we will talk soon
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 07:13:30 pm
This thread right now

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 10, 2022, 07:14:04 pm
This thread right now

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 10, 2022, 07:16:21 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 10, 2022, 07:17:20 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 07:18:05 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.

Slander, homophobia and racism is how people cope
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Nightwing on October 10, 2022, 07:18:19 pm
How have you retards done another 5 pages of this today already

Haven't had a drama thread like this in a while, never see cela
But you have to admit aswell, after a long monday at work you love to see it don't you?  :D

Spoiler
I can't be the only one right guys? ???? :-[
[close]
I'd rather see you on pro clubs.
Alright that's it, no more outstanding assists like prime Toni Kross crosses for you Sir. Gi, Porkins and Ricky make better runs anyway while being bad ass finishers  >:(
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 07:19:19 pm
Ricky? Running?  ???
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 07:23:13 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.
Haven't seen anything today so I'm not sure what you're referring to it was already warned when it was reported a few days back. Also haven't seen a single report from you so welcome to the masses of people who expect the handful of active moderators to see and read every single post whilst not using the 'report' function we provide.

Also, you two stop provoking each other now, as I've been reading I know it was Chuckster who started this and turned it into what the conversations become. If you two have some sort of personal issues take them to DM's or Steam or whatever else but on the public sections of the forums. Stick to the topic at hand and if you have something useful to say go ahead. Though I'm not sure what more can be said on this topic realistically.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Chuckster on October 10, 2022, 07:30:41 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.
Haven't seen anything today so I'm not sure what you're referring to it was already warned when it was reported a few days back. Also haven't seen a single report from you so welcome to the masses of people who expect the handful of active moderators to see and read every single post whilst not using the 'report' function we provide.

Also, you two stop provoking each other now, as I've been reading I know it was Chuckster who started this and turned it into what the conversations become. If you two have some sort of personal issues take them to DM's or Steam or whatever else but on the public sections of the forums. Stick to the topic at hand and if you have something useful to say go ahead. Though I'm not sure what more can be said on this topic realistically.
Where ?? Where ?? im homohpobixc ?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 07:33:29 pm
Chuckster you silly goose he just means stop arguing not stop being homophobic

EDIT: that doesnt mean start tho...
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 10, 2022, 07:34:28 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.
Haven't seen anything today so I'm not sure what you're referring to it was already warned when it was reported a few days back. Also haven't seen a single report from you so welcome to the masses of people who expect the handful of active moderators to see and read every single post whilst not using the 'report' function we provide.

Also, you two stop provoking each other now, as I've been reading I know it was Chuckster who started this and turned it into what the conversations become. If you two have some sort of personal issues take them to DM's or Steam or whatever else but on the public sections of the forums. Stick to the topic at hand and if you have something useful to say go ahead. Though I'm not sure what more can be said on this topic realistically.
Dw you’ve done fine, just referring to the player base. We shouldn’t allow this sort of behaviour.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 07:35:19 pm
Don’t really care for this thread but the amount of homophobia coming from some players is pretty absurd. I’d hope the admins would give out appropriate warnings and fellow players would ostracize this sort of behaviour instead of promoting it. No matter how much you disagree with someone their sexuality should not come into it.
Haven't seen anything today so I'm not sure what you're referring to it was already warned when it was reported a few days back. Also haven't seen a single report from you so welcome to the masses of people who expect the handful of active moderators to see and read every single post whilst not using the 'report' function we provide.

Also, you two stop provoking each other now, as I've been reading I know it was Chuckster who started this and turned it into what the conversations become. If you two have some sort of personal issues take them to DM's or Steam or whatever else but on the public sections of the forums. Stick to the topic at hand and if you have something useful to say go ahead. Though I'm not sure what more can be said on this topic realistically.
Where ?? Where ?? im homohpobixc ?
I didn't say you were being homophobic, in-fact I explicitly said today I haven't seen any homophobia, doesn't mean I didn't miss it though. As for Blitz he's referring to Archangel apparently. But you can't just provoke, insult and harass each other on this thread for no reason with no context to the topic I'm afraid.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 07:49:13 pm
WSE2 FOREVER GO NAHUY FIETTA
WANNA SEE HOW CHUCKY WILL FUCK YA PUSSY HARD

PAY 50$ to k700 for set-up ur server with FOV60 lock and 10fps lock
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 10, 2022, 07:54:30 pm
WSE2 FOREVER GO NAHUY FIETTA
WANNA SEE HOW CHUCKY WILL FUCK YA PUSSY HARD

PAY 50$ to k700 for set-up ur server with FOV60 lock and 10fps lock
(https://media.tenor.com/epNMHGvRyHcAAAAC/gigachad-chad.gif)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on October 10, 2022, 07:54:44 pm
*snip*
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: tommyxd on October 10, 2022, 07:57:42 pm
*snip*
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 07:59:10 pm
(https://c.tenor.com/Ws0eJtn-O-UAAAAM/rip-bozo.gif)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Phailur on October 10, 2022, 07:59:39 pm
No wonder fietta got bullied out of native to play NW with this kind of behaviour
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on October 10, 2022, 07:59:58 pm
(https://c.tenor.com/Ws0eJtn-O-UAAAAM/rip-bozo.gif)
I did it for free-speech, remember me guys

(https://vetsecurite.com/modules/prestablog/views/img/axome/up-img/67.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on October 10, 2022, 08:00:01 pm
*snip*
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 08:00:13 pm
No wonder fietta got bullied out of native to play NW with this kind of behaviour

Don't bait me like that  >:(

I'll have you know I was a taleworlds moderator at the end! The COMMUNITY SPOKESMAN

This thread is an absolute shit show, but still pales in comparison to 2015 taleworlds drama
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Steinmann on October 10, 2022, 08:03:27 pm
None is gonna stop me to cheat
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Flashkodr on October 10, 2022, 08:05:40 pm
So funny to look at this shitstorm and incels speaking about FoV-cheats in a 10yo game with lower 300 online ;D
The point is that both sides are clownish - the comrades who likes WSE as a useful feature and the comrades who doesn't, because "WSE=cheats".
May be you all don't know, but WSE was created not for you, nerds who play 'competetive' for years against the same people and for improving your in-game skills, if somebody really became better with it. WSE was created for server stuff mostly in case to allow making new server scripts, creating data-bases for servers easily and to please common players with new game features without changing M&B module system. Personally I knew about it since 2015, when I came the game and started to play fianna M&B, where all servers were based on WSE scripts, as fianna.mb was the main provider and luckily K700 was both creator of WSE and fianna.mb. And all my friends who owned a server used WSE just for creating new interesting game mechanics or optimising them, like invasion scripts, etc. WSE also allows to manage the server being on it, just using commands in chat. So you may type */heal "player_name" and player will restore his all HP without any signs on it, cuz it won't go even to server-logs, if you dont want to. WSE even opens an ability to give a player more HP at all, more armor characteristics or damage done by a player. With WSE you can turn the whole M&B upside down, fuck it twice and do whatever you want, but fse community only guessed to use WSE for fps-increasing and FoV using :-\. Same time most WSE players couldnt even imagine that it can be used in client game part. That is kinda vulgar, gentlemen. If you wanna see what the real WSE is - come to PN servers on Native, if they are still alive. They were made by team of VALROY, MorDa and K700(in some points).
Where you guys have been all this time, when true gigachads just made Invasion for M&B and happily played it PvE? Ah, I know, you were trying to know, who is able to press 2 buttons better and has bigger balls in that case. BUT when someone's opened for himself files, allowing to play bit better, some of you just started to burp the shit. Just accept, guys, you are afraid that some other players will start to play better than you and all your boring worthless life in M&B will mean nothing, as you won't be "top player" anymore. Your key fear is to become talentless medium player, as you have no other ways to self-affirmate or just because NW became bigger part of your life. WSE is not the only problem for you - some morons always cried about pings on German servers, for example. CIS and Turkish community is playing on 50-100 pings and noone cares about playing on servers that are good for both sides. Noone plays half a match on FRA and half on RUS servers, if teams are from that regions. Some are even crying if they have not 10, but 20 ping lol. So I cant see the point to speak about if WSE is fair or not. If you want fair game - play LAN tournaments lol. Any other discussion is useless and idle. Play without cheats and on russian/turkish/NA/others servers. Fuck you.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 10, 2022, 08:09:31 pm
*snip*
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Hertz on October 10, 2022, 08:21:22 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 08:25:09 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 10, 2022, 08:25:31 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
Because the author of the mod put a disclaimer that it could potentially be bannable from competitions
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Hertz on October 10, 2022, 08:26:16 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
Autoblock is in the game...
And autoblock is a substitute for mechanic skill, whereas WSE simply removes glitches that should have been patched out of the game
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Herishey on October 10, 2022, 08:26:23 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
It literally never would be though. People have posted it there and been banned. ^^
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 10, 2022, 08:27:38 pm
autoblock is a substitute for mechanical ability, this isn't, it's nothing like auto
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 10, 2022, 08:32:52 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
Autoblock is in the game...
And autoblock is a substitute for mechanic skill, whereas WSE simply removes glitches that should have been patched out of the game

To be fair I've heard that the reason FOV slider isn't in the base game was because of a glitch
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Hertz on October 10, 2022, 08:35:46 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
Autoblock is in the game...
And autoblock is a substitute for mechanic skill, whereas WSE simply removes glitches that should have been patched out of the game

To be fair I've heard that the reason FOV slider isn't in the base game was because of a glitch
It's like saying that people using the - key to zoom out is cheating. Bagins has never played zoomed out and he is considered Tier 1 of all time. So peoples excuse of 'FoV gIVeS An UnFAiR AdVAnTAGe' is utter waffle
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 10, 2022, 09:00:55 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
Autoblock is in the game...
And autoblock is a substitute for mechanic skill, whereas WSE simply removes glitches that should have been patched out of the game

To be fair I've heard that the reason FOV slider isn't in the base game was because of a glitch
It's like saying that people using the - key to zoom out is cheating. Bagins has never played zoomed out and he is considered Tier 1 of all time. So peoples excuse of 'FoV gIVeS An UnFAiR AdVAnTAGe' is utter waffle
marxeil played 800x600 or 640x480 without zoom out
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: AchillesTheOne on October 10, 2022, 09:02:12 pm
So funny to look at this shitstorm and incels speaking about FoV-cheats in a 10yo game with lower 300 online ;D
The point is that both sides are clownish - the comrades who likes WSE as a useful feature and the comrades who doesn't, because "WSE=cheats".
May be you all don't know, but WSE was created not for you, nerds who play 'competetive' for years against the same people and for improving your in-game skills, if somebody really became better with it. WSE was created for server stuff mostly in case to allow making new server scripts, creating data-bases for servers easily and to please common players with new game features without changing M&B module system. Personally I knew about it since 2015, when I came the game and started to play fianna M&B, where all servers were based on WSE scripts, as fianna.mb was the main provider and luckily K700 was both creator of WSE and fianna.mb. And all my friends who owned a server used WSE just for creating new interesting game mechanics or optimising them, like invasion scripts, etc. WSE also allows to manage the server being on it, just using commands in chat. So you may type */heal "player_name" and player will restore his all HP without any signs on it, cuz it won't go even to server-logs, if you dont want to. WSE even opens an ability to give a player more HP at all, more armor characteristics or damage done by a player. With WSE you can turn the whole M&B upside down, fuck it twice and do whatever you want, but fse community only guessed to use WSE for fps-increasing and FoV using :-\. Same time most WSE players couldnt even imagine that it can be used in client game part. That is kinda vulgar, gentlemen. If you wanna see what the real WSE is - come to PN servers on Native, if they are still alive. They were made by team of VALROY, MorDa and K700(in some points).
Where you guys have been all this time, when true gigachads just made Invasion for M&B and happily played it PvE? Ah, I know, you were trying to know, who is able to press 2 buttons better and has bigger balls in that case. BUT when someone's opened for himself files, allowing to play bit better, some of you just started to burp the shit. Just accept, guys, you are afraid that some other players will start to play better than you and all your boring worthless life in M&B will mean nothing, as you won't be "top player" anymore. Your key fear is to become talentless medium player, as you have no other ways to self-affirmate or just because NW became bigger part of your life. WSE is not the only problem for you - some morons always cried about pings on German servers, for example. CIS and Turkish community is playing on 50-100 pings and noone cares about playing on servers that are good for both sides. Noone plays half a match on FRA and half on RUS servers, if teams are from that regions. Some are even crying if they have not 10, but 20 ping lol. So I cant see the point to speak about if WSE is fair or not. If you want fair game - play LAN tournaments lol. Any other discussion is useless and idle. Play without cheats and on russian/turkish/NA/others servers. Fuck you.

https://youtu.be/JMw1GmJzF6A

Fuck you.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on October 10, 2022, 09:05:52 pm
So funny to look at this shitstorm and incels speaking about FoV-cheats in a 10yo game with lower 300 online ;D
The point is that both sides are clownish - the comrades who likes WSE as a useful feature and the comrades who doesn't, because "WSE=cheats".
May be you all don't know, but WSE was created not for you, nerds who play 'competetive' for years against the same people and for improving your in-game skills, if somebody really became better with it. WSE was created for server stuff mostly in case to allow making new server scripts, creating data-bases for servers easily and to please common players with new game features without changing M&B module system. Personally I knew about it since 2015, when I came the game and started to play fianna M&B, where all servers were based on WSE scripts, as fianna.mb was the main provider and luckily K700 was both creator of WSE and fianna.mb. And all my friends who owned a server used WSE just for creating new interesting game mechanics or optimising them, like invasion scripts, etc. WSE also allows to manage the server being on it, just using commands in chat. So you may type */heal "player_name" and player will restore his all HP without any signs on it, cuz it won't go even to server-logs, if you dont want to. WSE even opens an ability to give a player more HP at all, more armor characteristics or damage done by a player. With WSE you can turn the whole M&B upside down, fuck it twice and do whatever you want, but fse community only guessed to use WSE for fps-increasing and FoV using :-\. Same time most WSE players couldnt even imagine that it can be used in client game part. That is kinda vulgar, gentlemen. If you wanna see what the real WSE is - come to PN servers on Native, if they are still alive. They were made by team of VALROY, MorDa and K700(in some points).
Where you guys have been all this time, when true gigachads just made Invasion for M&B and happily played it PvE? Ah, I know, you were trying to know, who is able to press 2 buttons better and has bigger balls in that case. BUT when someone's opened for himself files, allowing to play bit better, some of you just started to burp the shit. Just accept, guys, you are afraid that some other players will start to play better than you and all your boring worthless life in M&B will mean nothing, as you won't be "top player" anymore. Your key fear is to become talentless medium player, as you have no other ways to self-affirmate or just because NW became bigger part of your life. WSE is not the only problem for you - some morons always cried about pings on German servers, for example. CIS and Turkish community is playing on 50-100 pings and noone cares about playing on servers that are good for both sides. Noone plays half a match on FRA and half on RUS servers, if teams are from that regions. Some are even crying if they have not 10, but 20 ping lol. So I cant see the point to speak about if WSE is fair or not. If you want fair game - play LAN tournaments lol. Any other discussion is useless and idle. Play without cheats and on russian/turkish/NA/others servers. Fuck you.

https://youtu.be/JMw1GmJzF6A

Fuck you.

No fuck you
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Janne on October 10, 2022, 09:26:03 pm
This mod is openly available from taleworlds. Why are we trying to ban it?
because people think its cheating, if an autoblock was available on taleworlds freely would you allow it in tournaments ?
Autoblock is in the game...
And autoblock is a substitute for mechanic skill, whereas WSE simply removes glitches that should have been patched out of the game
latter part is true but fov slider is a bit different from just zooming in and out. my point is that there is some merit to fietta's points, it's just a matter of do people care enough.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on October 10, 2022, 09:36:29 pm
This thread right now

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Phailur on October 10, 2022, 09:44:48 pm
From a protected source i know that Nock has been using FOV hacks since 2016. I believe he should be banned from all future tournaments for not disclosing his treacherous behaviour to anyone for so long
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Dokletian on October 10, 2022, 09:47:12 pm
d
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: [Stryker] on October 10, 2022, 09:50:10 pm
The real sin here is letting a thread started by HiBozo get more than 25 pages, mods do your jobs
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Ricky. on October 10, 2022, 11:34:01 pm
Ricky? Running?  ???
running through your dads head silly cunt
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 10, 2022, 11:38:05 pm
Ricky? Running?  ???
running through your dads head silly cunt
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Kore on October 11, 2022, 05:38:34 am
Ricky? Running?  ???
running through your dads head silly cunt
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 11, 2022, 11:25:13 am
Ricky? Running?  ???
running through your dads head silly cunt
(https://i.gyazo.com/d1eb44eafd3fbb2df1fede76d41627c9.png)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: higened243ed on October 11, 2022, 12:27:05 pm
pls more
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 12:37:52 pm
pls more
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 11, 2022, 01:47:09 pm
avarage WSE2 enjoyer
(https://media.tenor.com/epNMHGvRyHcAAAAd/gigachad-chad.gif)
[close]
avarage ATS fan
(https://media.tenor.com/Fs9txj8k2HoAAAAd/fraz-bradford.gif)
[close]
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 11, 2022, 02:16:27 pm
avarage WSE2 enjoyer
(https://media.tenor.com/epNMHGvRyHcAAAAd/gigachad-chad.gif)
[close]
avarage ATS fan
(https://media.tenor.com/Fs9txj8k2HoAAAAd/fraz-bradford.gif)
[close]
no
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 02:30:53 pm
At least spell average right on a dead meme
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on October 11, 2022, 02:37:05 pm
Since I was (maybe) the first one to use WSE2 in the western EU community I read a little bit because I was interested, there is a point missing though how do people with 240hz monitor play the game? Personally, what pushed me to install WSE2 at the time was the fact that I could not play with my 240hz on the original launcher because my game was suffering from random teleportations, I think that all users should raise a fund to pay the developer of WSE2 to make a "legal" version without FOV, problem solved and everyone is happy.

The favorite player of your favorite player, Zayden  :-*
stfu no one dont care about u
now i back into cs faceit
-with best wishes your favorite russian-
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 11, 2022, 03:44:02 pm
At least spell average right on a dead meme
no.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 06:07:02 pm
Difference between fietta and gibby is fietta cries about problems while gibby tries to fix them :))

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48544.0
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 11, 2022, 06:09:53 pm
Difference between fietta and gibby is fietta cries about problems while gibby tries to fix them :))

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48544.0

I mean i spoke to the guy before and he gave me similar stuff (as I posted here), though giving money to a russian for a client I don't really want doesn't entirely interest me
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 06:11:43 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/837691850655399937/1029425865832005692/IMG_3342.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Arch4ngel on October 11, 2022, 06:21:16 pm
gibby is a real man in his family
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Hertz on October 11, 2022, 06:42:11 pm
Difference between fietta and gibby is fietta cries about problems while gibby tries to fix them :))

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48544.0

This love triangle is confusing at the best of times
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 06:47:30 pm
Still waiting for hertz to get into a love triangle  :)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 11, 2022, 07:47:57 pm
this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2_axBNkrw
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 08:24:11 pm
Makes me feel shit lol, I do mechanical engineering
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Hertz on October 11, 2022, 08:30:41 pm
Still waiting for hertz to get into a love triangle  :)
bruv I'd be happy with a love line. Just someone other than myself really  :'(
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Brujo106 on October 11, 2022, 08:57:59 pm
Makes me feel shit lol, I do mechanical engineering

lmao
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Phailur on October 11, 2022, 10:04:17 pm
mechanically engineer deez nuts on yo face
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Shadey on October 11, 2022, 11:36:22 pm
Still waiting for hertz to get into a love triangle  :)
He has one with me and dren no problem
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 11, 2022, 11:48:05 pm
Still waiting for hertz to get into a love triangle  :)
He has one with me and dren no problem
I’d enter one with dren, that English accent makes me cremè
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fluxyy on October 12, 2022, 02:20:39 am
So funny to look at this shitstorm and incels speaking about FoV-cheats in a 10yo game with lower 300 online ;D
The point is that both sides are clownish - the comrades who likes WSE as a useful feature and the comrades who doesn't, because "WSE=cheats".
May be you all don't know, but WSE was created not for you, nerds who play 'competetive' for years against the same people and for improving your in-game skills, if somebody really became better with it. WSE was created for server stuff mostly in case to allow making new server scripts, creating data-bases for servers easily and to please common players with new game features without changing M&B module system. Personally I knew about it since 2015, when I came the game and started to play fianna M&B, where all servers were based on WSE scripts, as fianna.mb was the main provider and luckily K700 was both creator of WSE and fianna.mb. And all my friends who owned a server used WSE just for creating new interesting game mechanics or optimising them, like invasion scripts, etc. WSE also allows to manage the server being on it, just using commands in chat. So you may type */heal "player_name" and player will restore his all HP without any signs on it, cuz it won't go even to server-logs, if you dont want to. WSE even opens an ability to give a player more HP at all, more armor characteristics or damage done by a player. With WSE you can turn the whole M&B upside down, fuck it twice and do whatever you want, but fse community only guessed to use WSE for fps-increasing and FoV using :-\. Same time most WSE players couldnt even imagine that it can be used in client game part. That is kinda vulgar, gentlemen. If you wanna see what the real WSE is - come to PN servers on Native, if they are still alive. They were made by team of VALROY, MorDa and K700(in some points).
Where you guys have been all this time, when true gigachads just made Invasion for M&B and happily played it PvE? Ah, I know, you were trying to know, who is able to press 2 buttons better and has bigger balls in that case. BUT when someone's opened for himself files, allowing to play bit better, some of you just started to burp the shit. Just accept, guys, you are afraid that some other players will start to play better than you and all your boring worthless life in M&B will mean nothing, as you won't be "top player" anymore. Your key fear is to become talentless medium player, as you have no other ways to self-affirmate or just because NW became bigger part of your life. WSE is not the only problem for you - some morons always cried about pings on German servers, for example. CIS and Turkish community is playing on 50-100 pings and noone cares about playing on servers that are good for both sides. Noone plays half a match on FRA and half on RUS servers, if teams are from that regions. Some are even crying if they have not 10, but 20 ping lol. So I cant see the point to speak about if WSE is fair or not. If you want fair game - play LAN tournaments lol. Any other discussion is useless and idle. Play without cheats and on russian/turkish/NA/others servers. Fuck you.
Tell 'em motherfuckers show 'em the truth in the face get 'em out the door
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fluxyy on October 12, 2022, 02:23:55 am
It’s why I only talk to 12 year old 45thN_Jake
12 years old? do homosexual pedophiles exist??? You have to report yourself to the police
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 12, 2022, 09:55:46 am
It’s why I only talk to 12 year old 45thN_Jake
12 years old? do homosexual pedophiles exist??? You have to report yourself to the police

I’ll leave the noncing to Muha
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BillTheButcher on October 13, 2022, 12:53:34 am
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Kore on October 13, 2022, 01:15:16 am
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

👑
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: ~NickCole~ on October 13, 2022, 02:06:20 am
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

👑
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: LEVIS on October 13, 2022, 05:28:21 am
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

👑
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Glenn on October 13, 2022, 06:50:27 am
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jprRLX0DM__PI.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on October 13, 2022, 06:50:46 am
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jprRLX0DM__PI.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: IcePimpDaddy on October 13, 2022, 01:19:35 pm
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jprRLX0DM__PI.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Golden. on October 13, 2022, 04:35:08 pm
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jprRLX0DM__PI.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Alf on October 13, 2022, 06:10:38 pm
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jprRLX0DM__PI.jpg)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: HiReaper on October 13, 2022, 08:17:48 pm
wtf is this? and why do you kids still play my game I completely dominated for 3 years?

tsk tsk

👑
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 20, 2022, 01:55:52 am
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
[close]
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 02:14:53 am
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
[close]

Count me in
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Gibby Jr on October 20, 2022, 02:15:00 am
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
[close]

yes, get 50 people on to all argue with fietta
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 02:15:29 am
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
[close]

yes, get 50 people on to all argue with fietta

I'm a master of persuasion!
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 20, 2022, 02:21:20 am
I'll let you on Fietta, but you have to put together an Anti-WSE2 rap for us
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Fietta on October 20, 2022, 02:22:27 am
I'll let you on Fietta, but you have to put together an Anti-WSE2 rap for us

I think I'd get bullied more than I already do
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 20, 2022, 02:23:29 am
I'll let you on Fietta, but you have to put together an Anti-WSE2 rap for us

I think I'd get bullied more than I already do
(https://media.tenor.com/672ezc4WbtgAAAAM/exactly-point.gif)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 20, 2022, 02:28:18 am
I already get a headache by thinking of that stream
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: John Price on October 20, 2022, 02:36:28 am
I already get a headache by thinking of that stream
Now you know how your parents feel
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 20, 2022, 02:58:11 am
I already get a headache by thinking of that stream
Now you know how your parents feel
im the silent kid mate
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Naatsuu on October 20, 2022, 09:25:20 am
https://youtu.be/DWLtyWyimg0
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on October 20, 2022, 09:52:04 am
I already get a headache by thinking of that stream
Now you know how your parents feel
im the silent kid mate
Shame that doesn’t transfer over to nw
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: maskmanmarks on October 20, 2022, 11:53:26 am
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
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people seem to forget this stream actually attracted 50% more viewers than the RGL 15thYR come back stream vs 92nd. Was fun at the time - should do it again
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Tomppa on October 20, 2022, 12:00:04 pm
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
[close]

people seem to forget this stream actually attracted 50% more viewers than the RGL 15thYR come back stream vs 92nd. Was fun at the time - should do it again

Not gonna get to the point where the 15thYR could make a comeback this time, but would be fun to atleast continue some of the traditions Vegi started.
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: Vegi. on October 20, 2022, 12:23:48 pm
Out of curiosity would people want to see a stream where I get some people from opposing viewpoints on to have an open forum/debate on the WSE2 subject? Can also transcribe it out for FSE later. Similar to what we did for Fotin v Maskman but a little more of an open forum.

Personally I think thats the only way you are going to hear legitimate pros/cons, allow people in chat to air their opinions for us to read out and also throw ideas out for possible solutions etc. if people have them. Otherwise these threads will keep on going forever. Although saying that they probably won't stop this is NW ;D But at least you won't have to read through 40+ pages of FSE autism for it.

If not nevermind, just an idea.

Video of the Maskman v Fotin CR debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aAQPvOL6H0
[close]

people seem to forget this stream actually attracted 50% more viewers than the RGL 15thYR come back stream vs 92nd. Was fun at the time - should do it again

Not gonna get to the point where the 15thYR could make a comeback this time, but would be fun to atleast continue some of the traditions Vegi started.
Make fun of my traditions all of you dogs. Atleast I can make/play the fking finals ;)
Title: Re: How to become a tier 1 NW PLAYER!! wow!
Post by: jakob. on October 20, 2022, 01:25:35 pm
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