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Re: New BoP
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2017, 09:56:36 pm »
Victorian
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read some oft the other BoP threads. PM me for questions.

Its to be expected that a few people dislike a certain Periode. I understand your reasoning, but rather so something New that im interested in instead of trying to appeal to people


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Re: New BoP
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2017, 10:28:33 pm »
Damn. I was interested, just not committed. Victorian is a weird era imo, I don't like world campaigns, just Europe-sized campaigns. And no, "Europe is in this, too!" doesn't cut it, late period games are just about fighting for colonies and making backstabs in Europe, I find that really boring. If it was medieval, when Europe looked like shattered glass, then hell yes.

Guns and cannons and resources need to be basic and scarce for things to be interesting, imo.
Germany and Italy are shattered glass and almost Austria-Hungary but uhhhhh

yeah
Plus it's the time of revolutions in a lot of countries' histories so it could become even more shattered glass

GB is whole, Spain is whole, Austria and Russia are empires that swallowed up all these small regional ethnicities. Italy is basically 4 countries, and Germany is basically 5 (7 including the Netherlands and Belgium, which are long since independent from HRE). Inb4 "nuh uh," yes, Italy is basically three countries: Sardinia, Tuscany, the Papal States, and Sicily, and Germany is essentially just Prussia, Bavaria, Hanover, Hesse, and Mecklenburg. Every other minor ass country gets swallowed up 2 days into the game, and that's why it's not shattered glass.

Compare Germany and Italy in 1500 to Germany and Italy in 1850. Ignore HRE.

No, Volk, I doubt a BoP where simplicity is a core backbone will allow for revolutions that splinter nations. The fuck?

rather so something New that im interested in instead of trying to appeal to people

Doing something you want to do > doing something others want to do

Huh.

Medieval may not be the consensus of the people in this thread currently, but months ago when that big poll of all the different themes was up, medieval was either the top or second top voted by a large margin. It's a good time period because big changes weren't usually devised by a hand full of people, that's why the Napoleonic era is a shitty timeframe for a BoP--France just wins as long as the player is competent, or players play proactively and straight up unfairly target France from the start, and GB or Russia will swoop in to save the day at some point. That's why I prefer the medieval period, you can be as creative and ruthless and ambitious and practical as you want.

Either way, I think it's worth introducing wincons to BoPs regardless of the time period. Games sort of just end because all players feel like they can do is fight wars, and that's all there really is. But there's no evaluation at any point of how well a player/nation is actually doing at any given time. There's no system of points to value how much land someone controls, how valuable that land is, how protected those lands are, how efficient their military is at preventing threats from happening and eliminating them when they do, etc. Civilization for instance was definitely a game where you had to fight battles, but towards the end of the game there were WAY more ways to win than just fight everyone. Something to seriously consider, imo.
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Re: New BoP
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2017, 10:45:32 pm »
Wincons actually are a great Idea :) thanks for the input

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Re: New BoP
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2017, 10:56:17 pm »
I’m not a huge fan of the Victorian era but of course I’ll still play
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Re: New BoP
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2017, 10:58:00 pm »
I’m not a huge fan of the Victorian era but of course I’ll still play
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Re: New BoP
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2017, 11:12:53 pm »
Victorian era? What's there to do except fighting natives armed with fruit and watching France and Germany throw insults at eachother?

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Re: New BoP
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2017, 01:21:58 am »
Victorian era? What's there to do except fighting natives armed with fruit and watching France and Germany throw insults at eachother?


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Re: New BoP
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2017, 09:56:26 pm »
Victorian era? What's there to do except fighting natives armed with fruit and watching France and Germany throw insults at eachother?

Tbf that sounds like a lot of fun.

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Re: New BoP
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2017, 09:58:19 pm »
Victorian era? What's there to do except fighting natives armed with fruit and watching France and Germany throw insults at eachother?

Tbf that sounds like a lot of fun.
Plus you gotta spend the whole game trying to maintain that lovely status quo. That's why it's called Balance of Power no?

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Re: New BoP
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2017, 05:05:11 am »
So any word on when we will get mroe info on this?
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Re: New BoP
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2017, 05:41:41 am »
So any word on when we will get mroe info on this?
Caz said when he gets back from visiting family for holiday, idk about european vacation but i know some of my uni friends come back next monday or something like that. My guess is during or after this weekend?

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Re: New BoP
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2017, 11:05:19 am »
I'll be back home on  the 7th of January
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Re: New BoP
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2018, 11:14:48 am »
I'll be back home on  the 7th of January

I shall translate. I didn't realise the errors of my ways, and have no time to spare in this current state of the world. I may or may not be back for several months as I trek across the mountains of tawoogoo in search of the lost banana.

I.e. cya in 7 months.

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Re: New BoP
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2018, 01:47:32 pm »
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Re: New BoP
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2018, 02:14:20 pm »
I'll be back home on  the 7th of January

I shall translate. I didn't realise the errors of my ways, and have no time to spare in this current state of the world. I may or may not be back for several months as I trek across the mountains of tawoogoo in search of the lost banana.

I.e. cya in 7 months.
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