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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => North & South: First Manassas => Topic started by: Hinkel on September 08, 2014, 08:47:23 pm

Title: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 08, 2014, 08:47:23 pm
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After 2 1/2 years of development, North and South: First Manassas (beta 0.5) is going into its first full release.
The new version offers lot of new features and tons of great models, made by Docm30 - the developer of L'Aigle

http://www.moddb.com/mods/laigle



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What is North and South - First Manassas?

The United States of America - in the Year 1861. The Union and the Confederate States of America are at War.
Both sides fight in the biggest war on the american continent: The American Civil War 1861-1865!

The modification features the Battle of Manassas, which was the first big battle of the Civil War.
On July 21st, 1861 both armies clashed near Manassas junction and the river Bull Run. It should be the first and last battle of the war.

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Reworked Uniforms

• ALL Uniforms are replaced by high quality models, which are made by Docm30 - the Developer of L'Aigle
(check it out: http://www.moddb.com/mods/laigle )

British Soldier and Zouave Officer
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Complete new Environment!

• In cooperation with our sister mod - "Blood & Iron" a complete new envirenment with new plants, objects, skybox and more was added!
(check it out: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?board=111.0)

• Tons of new mapping objects like western buildings, wanted posters, trains, supply carts and many more!


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New Battlefield tactics and features!

• Bayonets: Fix Bayonets and when you charge them, yell like Furries!
• Ammo Boxes: resupply crates to refill your ammo
• Bleeding: If you survive a hit, you can bleed to death after some seconds
• Medics: To stop bleeding, you are able to spawn as a field medic now. Medics have bandages to fix up wounded soldiers
• Chaplains: Take out your bible, bless your troops or worship the developers of this mod
• Balloons: Get into a balloon and recon for your team!

Ammo refill
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New units and ingame regiments!

• New units are added - like Pennsylvania Lancers, Partisan Rangers, 79th NY - Cameron Highlanders, VMI Cadets and more!

VMI Cadets
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• First unique player regiments added into the game!

14th Brooklyn
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Foreign Intervention!

• "Foreign Intervention": A new "what if, ..." scenario brings in troops of 4 different nations, which joined the War!

On July 25th, 4 days after the confederate victory at Manassas, France and England declared war on the United States of America!
While an Expeditionary Corps was sent to Richmond, Virginia.. the Mexican Army started a second Invasion of Texas and declared war on the Confederate States of America.


What would YOU do, if that "What if..." Scenario took place?

British Highlander and Mexican Soldier
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Commander Battles!

• Reworked Commander Battle mode - regiments will march into the battle with flags, musicians, officers and NCO's

AI Commander Battles with Flags/Officers
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Setup-Files

LINK 1
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LINK 2
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Instruction

1) Run the downloaded "NaS Setup" file!

2) The installer should point out your correct Mount&Blade folder automatically. If its the wrong folder, please navigate yourself!

3) The installation path should end with \North and South First Manassas. If its a different folder, please make sure to edit!

4) Play the game and have fun!


SERVER Files
(for server hoster only)

No server files available.
Please get in contact with the developers!



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If you would like to support us

North and South is being developed without any other funding than what the community chooses to donate to us.
There are no wages and there have never been. Everything you see is created out of pure will and passion regarding the project.


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Graphic recommendations

We recommend to play this mod on a high graphic setting. To get the perfect visible expierence,
please turn on in your ingame Video Settings:

- High-contrast tonemap
- Ragdolls unlimited



Problems

1) If you have problems with your NW key (NW is not installed), please do the following:

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Right click on Mount & Blade: Warband on steam and select view CD key.
Copy the Napoleonic Wars serial code or keep it open.

- Click Start > Run
- Enter regedit, right click to open with administrative rights
- A new window will open, browse to HKEY_CURRENT_USER > Software > MountAndBladeWarbandKeys
- Search the entry, serial_key_nw,
- If it doesent exist, make a string value with that name and enter your cd key there.
- make sure that the value is the same as your CD key. Also make sure that the key is separated correctly. Double click the entry and modify it until it is correct. Watch out for invisible spaces in the CD key.
- If you are done with that, close the Registry Window and start the installer, and have fun playing!
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North&South Team

Hinkel
Parrot
Kanade Tachibana
Nytech


North&South Community Supervisor

HairyWarHero


Mod Supporter and Contributors

Docm30, Mailman, Chadman, ComradeCrimson,
Flemmi, Primergy, usnavy30, BetaKnight, CKtheFat,
Rigadoon, Penis Colada, Azrooh, Austro, Baz44331,
Friedrich, Von Afton, GoKiller, Jaakko, GABRILDURO,
YellowMosquito, Col. Mack, Diplex, The FSE Team

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on September 08, 2014, 08:51:51 pm
Cant wait :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on September 08, 2014, 08:52:59 pm
Nicely done Hinkel, Docm & Team.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on September 08, 2014, 09:01:03 pm
I simply can't wait!  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on September 08, 2014, 11:56:20 pm
Looks fucking righteous! So eager to play the new version.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: regwilliam on September 09, 2014, 04:17:42 am
im not sure if im reading this right if the new version out or is it soon to come out ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 09, 2014, 04:47:54 am
im not sure if im reading this right if the new version out or is it soon to come out ?

the 0.5 update is out, and has been for a month, but the 1.0 update isnt.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 09, 2014, 05:17:41 am
im not sure if im reading this right if the new version out or is it soon to come out ?

the 0.5 update is out, and has been for a month, but the 1.0 update isnt.

Let's hope it's come soon. No rush.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josef Lenin on September 09, 2014, 05:22:02 am
Nice!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 09, 2014, 05:24:19 am
Nice!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 09, 2014, 05:57:22 am
Will the LA tigers be getting updated?

P.S.

Thanks a ton for doing this, this mod is one of the few greats that actually have an active player base and room to grow! ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on September 09, 2014, 07:14:54 am
Do we even need WoR and BCoF soon?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 09, 2014, 07:28:53 am
Do we even need WoR and BCoF soon?

Yes.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 09, 2014, 03:13:32 pm
Do we even need WoR and BCoF soon?

Yes.
Yes..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 09, 2014, 06:04:40 pm
A small update, how a southern gentleman can look like:

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on September 09, 2014, 06:35:54 pm
AW YEAH!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 09, 2014, 06:55:54 pm
Will the LA tigers be getting updated?

Also, those confederate officer uniforms are freaking awesome.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Macca on September 09, 2014, 08:01:18 pm
HINKEL YOU DID IT! <3
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 09, 2014, 09:27:56 pm
Confederate Sharpshooter? :)

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Magner on September 09, 2014, 09:30:22 pm
The new uniforms are looking fantastic! Good to know it's being updated further!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Macca on September 09, 2014, 10:04:39 pm
The new uniforms are looking fantastic! Good to know it's being updated further!
I agree, they look beautiful!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 10, 2014, 01:52:14 am
I demand some Union stuff! (Preview)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 10, 2014, 09:24:23 am
I demand some Union stuff! (Preview)

Berdan Sharpshooter

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Iron Brigade Officers and Ranker

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eustache19 on September 10, 2014, 10:34:27 am
I want it, i want it, i want my PRECIOUUUUUUUUUUUUS !!!!

Ok, calm down... Just to say that the preview show on this forum and the preview of the update make you want this game !
I don't know if you have an idea of the release date or if you can told us if we will be able to play it before Christmas....  ::)

Nevertheless good job to all the developers of this mod !
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 10, 2014, 11:10:50 am
I want it, i want it, i want my PRECIOUUUUUUUUUUUUS !!!!

Ok, calm down... Just to say that the preview show on this forum and the preview of the update make you want this game !
I don't know if you have an idea of the release date or if you can told us if we will be able to play it before Christmas....  ::)

Nevertheless good job to all the developers of this mod !

Hehe, you can just download the 0.5 version and play it meanwhile. There are already some of those splendid models in! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mikael on September 10, 2014, 04:34:33 pm
Looks great  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 10, 2014, 04:50:06 pm
The Hardee hat chaps are awfully good.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 10, 2014, 11:59:16 pm
Fuck yes.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 11, 2014, 12:08:06 am
Seeing as NC provided the most troops during the war, please give uniforms :(.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on September 11, 2014, 12:46:45 am
Also, remember to join the steam group : https://steamcommunity.com/groups/north_and_south
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 11, 2014, 05:00:10 am
Seeing as NC provided the most troops during the war, please give uniforms :(.

they didnt provide the most troops in the war... they provided a lot of troops, and supplies, but not the most out of all the states. im pretty sure it was New York that provided the most troops in the war.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on September 11, 2014, 07:39:23 am
Iron brigade looks badass!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 11, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
Seeing as NC provided the most troops during the war, please give uniforms :(.

they didnt provide the most troops in the war... they provided a lot of troops, and supplies, but not the most out of all the states. im pretty sure it was New York that provided the most troops in the war.

Sorry, I meant in the Confederacy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 12, 2014, 12:16:06 am
Union.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on September 12, 2014, 05:52:05 pm
Hoping to see lots more balancing of the two armies with no silly units or weapons *cough* repeaters and sharps rifle *cough*

Though maybe a fixed Gatling gun on a special map would be cool. After all, plenty of rumours saying Hinkel has been playing with Gatling guns for a while :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 12, 2014, 06:48:45 pm
Hoping to see lots more balancing of the two armies with no silly units or weapons *cough* repeaters and sharps rifle *cough*

Though maybe a fixed Gatling gun on a special map would be cool. After all, plenty of rumours saying Hinkel has been playing with Gatling guns for a while :P

Your comment is really paradox ;)

On the one hand, you dont want "silly" weapons like sharp rifles and carbines, but on the other hand you want the most silly weapon... A gatling gun?!

The mod is about the early war in 1861,  so there wont be 1865 weapons.
Sharp rifles will come back, together with other "silly", but historical units.

The factions won't be balanced, each faction will have unique strenghts and weaknesses.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on September 13, 2014, 03:04:33 pm
Hoping to see lots more balancing of the two armies with no silly units or weapons *cough* repeaters and sharps rifle *cough*

Though maybe a fixed Gatling gun on a special map would be cool. After all, plenty of rumours saying Hinkel has been playing with Gatling guns for a while :P

Your comment is really paradox ;)

On the one hand, you dont want "silly" weapons like sharp rifles and carbines, but on the other hand you want the most silly weapon... A gatling gun?!

The mod is about the early war in 1861,  so there wont be 1865 weapons.
Sharp rifles will come back, together with other "silly", but historical units.

The factions won't be balanced, each faction will have unique strenghts and weaknesses.

Because balance doesn't exist in warfare, but for example armies with less men than others can yet put an end to this more resourcefull army. Strategy can save y'all, not just manpower and supplies.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tomäus on September 13, 2014, 03:34:49 pm
Nice stuff :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 13, 2014, 04:53:52 pm
Do you think NC will ever be a class?.

they supplied more than Virginia
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on September 14, 2014, 06:44:34 pm
So Sharps Rifles with reloading on the move yet again? *sigh* yet another rule to implement and have to work to make sure its followed.

Great   :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 14, 2014, 06:48:30 pm
So Sharps Rifles with reloading on the move yet again? *sigh* yet another rule to implement and have to work to make sure its followed.

Great   :-\

Why don't you allow reload while movement then? Where is the problem?
Just make sure there is just a small regiment on sharpshooters and everything is great. I don't tolerate such rules, which avoid special gameplay features.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 14, 2014, 07:37:57 pm
So Sharps Rifles with reloading on the move yet again? *sigh* yet another rule to implement and have to work to make sure its followed.

Great   :-\

Why don't you allow reload while movement then? Where is the problem?
Just make sure there is just a small regiment on sharpshooters and everything is great. I don't tolerate such rules, which avoid special gameplay features.

Sadly though the events get ruined if strict rules are not in place. If the events are not good than the mod will die.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on September 14, 2014, 07:53:52 pm
Yes because allowing 20 odd Reloading on the Move Sharpshooters is such a wonderful idea.

There is a reason the Union Army themselves banned reloading on the move with Sharps Rifles. And a reason they will stay banned from reloading on the move.

Yes I understand you want a nice mod for people to play with, but the community would like balance and non over powered units on the field constantly. Ergo, rules are put into place by the community for the Linebattles.

No one cares about Public Play, we just want good balance for Linebattles.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 14, 2014, 07:57:29 pm
And I'm over here like:

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on September 14, 2014, 07:58:39 pm
I enjoy N&S way more since they removed the sharpshooter. Please dont put it back in.

Brigadier General Reznov.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commander Davis on September 14, 2014, 07:59:39 pm
Hoping to see lots more balancing of the two armies with no silly units or weapons *cough* repeaters and sharps rifle *cough*

Though maybe a fixed Gatling gun on a special map would be cool. After all, plenty of rumours saying Hinkel has been playing with Gatling guns for a while :P

Your comment is really paradox ;)

On the one hand, you dont want "silly" weapons like sharp rifles and carbines, but on the other hand you want the most silly weapon... A gatling gun?!

The mod is about the early war in 1861,  so there wont be 1865 weapons.
Sharp rifles will come back, together with other "silly", but historical units.

The factions won't be balanced, each faction will have unique strenghts and weaknesses.

Adding them back in won't change anything. We'll just ban them from our events again. Since they've been removed events have been fun and interesting. Not just being bashed down by someone running away whilst reloading. I personally don't see the point of adding them back in.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 14, 2014, 08:12:57 pm
So.. adding back snipers, with good accuracy but very bad reloading... + not moving while reloading would be okay?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commander Davis on September 14, 2014, 08:20:11 pm
So.. adding back snipers, with good accuracy but very bad reloading... + not moving while reloading would be okay?
Meh I've always preached to remove both of them :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 14, 2014, 08:23:09 pm
So.. adding back snipers, with good accuracy but very bad reloading... + not moving while reloading would be okay?
Meh I've always preached to remove both of them :)

So you want just one basic muskete.. no other weapon in the mod?

Maybe I can just remove all units and just add a basic infantry, with all same stats. Would be better that way?

I don't see, why some different units, with strenghts and weaknesses compared to other units, is welcomed.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 14, 2014, 08:32:26 pm
So.. adding back snipers, with good accuracy but very bad reloading... + not moving while reloading would be okay?
Meh I've always preached to remove both of them :)

So you want just one basic muskete.. no other weapon in the mod?

Maybe I can just remove all units and just add a basic infantry, with all same stats. Would be better that way?

I don't see, why some different units, with strenghts and weaknesses compared to other units, is welcomed.

I say different units with varying stats are welcome, but some things are just to over powered and cannot be balanced for event gameplay.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: nukey111 on September 14, 2014, 08:45:14 pm
Now, everyone here hold up a bit. Let's go for realism, shall we?
FIRST OFF.
Some confederates had the repeating rifles.
All right, got that off my chest. now, the accuracy of the rifles should be reduced, severely. First off, they were only usable up to 200 yards well due to accuracy and ammunition power.  The gun's in NS are insanely less accurate than their real-life counterparts, and seeing as I actively shoot weapons from that period, they run nowhere near. Compensate for that with the Repeater. Make it about as accurate as an 1855 Springfield, or a Lorenz. A feature which I beleive should be added in for the repeater would be bad greasing- The reason they never got pouplar, and this can happen with Revolvers aswell, when fired sparks would fly out and could get into the other chambers, occasionally making them explode in the persons hand. Adding this as a very small chance (no higher than 4-5%) would add a certain "Shit, do I want to use this?" element to the game.

Aswell, the repeater should, at a minimum, have a accuracy reduction. An alternative to balance it would be, realistically, remove the Long Rifle (A flintlock as most accurate? Really?) and make the Whitworth rifle the most accurate. It logistically should have an accuracy of 100, it is the only counterpart to the Repeater. This would allow a good balanceing and a new tactic layout (Sniper teams, anyone?) and increase the historical accuracy of the game, considering how the Whitworth rifle was much more accurate than anything at that time.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on September 14, 2014, 08:48:00 pm
Just making them not able to reload on the move or pick up a Sharps Carbine would be good.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on September 14, 2014, 08:48:21 pm
That and fixing the Whitworth and Longrifle.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: nukey111 on September 14, 2014, 09:38:26 pm
Lucas, the problem with doing that is it kills the idea. The idea of a repeating rifle was the power and abilities of the Revolver, with the power and range of a Rifle. All it is is a larger version of the Revolver, morealess literally. Just make it less accurate, and the whitworth rifle the TRUE sniper. Otherwise (allthough I don't beleive it was an 1861 weapon) the Confederate states had a sniper rifle, it was quite an ugly thing but absolutely pinpoint when used right.

http://www.cfspress.com/sharpshooters/arms/1162-RifleTargetMorganJames-2.jpg Confederate sniper rifle.
The scope script (for the zoom) could possibly be permitted to be used from the Iron Europe team.

Tally-ho!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 14, 2014, 10:37:34 pm
I hope this is out soon, I'm dying to play it.  :3
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 14, 2014, 11:19:44 pm
Big thanks to the 26th North Carolina Regiment, the only regiment which had time to test in the Line Battle. Great guys! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140914%2Fqck39e3s.jpg&hash=8dce26bbc6170c4f58bbc27345be6344aba2e6ad)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on September 14, 2014, 11:22:20 pm
boner.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on September 14, 2014, 11:26:28 pm
We look Beautiful. 26thNC has always been pretty to look at, and now its us in Texas form! Hope those lowly Virginians will be replaced as the guard infantry by the might Texas Brigade!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 14, 2014, 11:30:46 pm
Big thanks to the 26th North Carolina Regiment, the only regiment which had time to test in the Line Battle. Great guys! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140914%2Fqck39e3s.jpg&hash=8dce26bbc6170c4f58bbc27345be6344aba2e6ad)

your welcome Hinkel :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on September 14, 2014, 11:34:51 pm
BTW Hinkel if you ever want to set up another photo session without the trolls on the right we are always here to help. That is as long as I get more cavalry units.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on September 14, 2014, 11:38:42 pm
N&S 0.5

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N&S 1.0

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Prefer 1.0 :P Good job hinkel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 14, 2014, 11:43:04 pm

Prefer 1.0 :P Good job hinkel

Well, I like some of the 0.5 models. Hard to replace most of those.. :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on September 15, 2014, 12:20:32 am
We didn't know the reasons behind 26thNC taking pictures lol, we did deeply apologize. Plus we only shot Heth lol.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on September 15, 2014, 12:22:57 am
I also want to add to the previous conversation about the sharpshooters. Leave them in. I don't care about peoples personal hatred of them. I like em, I never use em but I like em. To bitch Hinkel out cause he decides to put them in his mod is truly outrageous. Hinkel you do what you do :D

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peter_ORiley on September 15, 2014, 12:50:44 am
Goddammit Hinkel. You cut me out of the pic. I should be all the way on the left with Sarge chevron's.  >:(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 15, 2014, 03:33:21 am
This is the best mod for NW yet. ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 15, 2014, 03:39:13 am
Next we need a picture of a union regiment. Please.  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: regwilliam on September 15, 2014, 06:05:32 am
the 9th would gladly be the union regiment for you next pic Hinkel xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 15, 2014, 12:07:13 pm
Big thanks to the 26th North Carolina Regiment, the only regiment which had time to test in the Line Battle. Great guys! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140914%2Fqck39e3s.jpg&hash=8dce26bbc6170c4f58bbc27345be6344aba2e6ad)

Awesome pic, Union regiment would be good!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 16, 2014, 04:42:53 am
Big thanks to the 26th North Carolina Regiment, the only regiment which had time to test in the Line Battle. Great guys! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140914%2Fqck39e3s.jpg&hash=8dce26bbc6170c4f58bbc27345be6344aba2e6ad)

Awesome pic, Union regiment would be good!

*Cough* 9th New York *Cough*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 16, 2014, 05:31:52 am
Big thanks to the 26th North Carolina Regiment, the only regiment which had time to test in the Line Battle. Great guys! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140914%2Fqck39e3s.jpg&hash=8dce26bbc6170c4f58bbc27345be6344aba2e6ad)

Awesome pic, Union regiment would be good!

*Cough* 9th New York *Cough*

the 9th isnt in N&S :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 16, 2014, 05:44:35 am
Big thanks to the 26th North Carolina Regiment, the only regiment which had time to test in the Line Battle. Great guys! :)
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Awesome pic, Union regiment would be good!

*Cough* 9th New York *Cough*

the 9th isnt in N&S :P

That's a picture of the 26th NC with the texas flag. Doesnt matter if their not in there. We can still do a group photo (we're big after-all)  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: regwilliam on September 16, 2014, 06:09:18 am
plus we aint talking about the 9th east norfolk we talking about the 9th New york
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 16, 2014, 07:47:23 am
plus we aint talking about the 9th east norfolk we talking about the 9th New york

i can guess that :P

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 16, 2014, 03:31:36 pm
plus we aint talking about the 9th east norfolk we talking about the 9th New york

i can guess that :P
It's all good.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 16, 2014, 05:08:50 pm
Time for some fancy Union Uniform variations... [editor view]

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140916%2Fq54as74x.jpg&hash=3fdd644c68e1ba4ab5102cbf5b9b180b067a6ec5)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on September 16, 2014, 06:11:40 pm
Time for some fancy Union Uniform variations... [editor view]

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140916%2Fq54as74x.jpg&hash=3fdd644c68e1ba4ab5102cbf5b9b180b067a6ec5)
OMG is that a cav pvt in the center?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 16, 2014, 06:16:36 pm

OMG is that a cav pvt in the center?

Thats a cavalry bugler. On the right, is a cavalry captain :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on September 16, 2014, 06:17:55 pm
3rd NJ "Butterfly Hussars"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 16, 2014, 09:35:41 pm
Oooo Artillery Ordinance Sergeant.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on September 16, 2014, 09:47:40 pm
Can't wait. Looks so good.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 16, 2014, 11:25:42 pm
Time for some fancy Union Uniform variations... [editor view]

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140916%2Fq54as74x.jpg&hash=3fdd644c68e1ba4ab5102cbf5b9b180b067a6ec5)
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I can't believe how great this is! Fucking keep up the work hinkel.  :D No communism intended
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 17, 2014, 09:04:40 pm
Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 17, 2014, 09:06:22 pm
All ranks ftw.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 17, 2014, 09:40:02 pm
Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Yes you can choose your rank. You can be a lance corporal and corporal and beyond, stuff like Sergeant-Major.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Locust on September 17, 2014, 10:18:21 pm
This game looks more complete than BCoF lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Moldplayer on September 17, 2014, 11:07:35 pm
This game looks more complete than BCoF lol
Well yeah, its a mod
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eustache19 on September 18, 2014, 10:32:58 am
But we will still have the "restriction" of 200 players (whereas BCoF announced 500 players)... Still this mod will be awesoooooome !
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.hostingpics.net%2Fpics%2F812317lincolnawesome.jpg&hash=36a362b2a36f3b8d63dfca2384041547a6e055a7) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=812317lincolnawesome.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on September 18, 2014, 01:21:30 pm

OMG is that a cav pvt in the center?

Thats a cavalry bugler. On the right, is a cavalry captain :)

Lovely Stuff.  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 18, 2014, 07:30:37 pm
Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Yes you can choose your rank. You can be a lance corporal and corporal and beyond, stuff like Sergeant-Major.

Nice, I thought there was no LCpl rank in the US army 1861-1865.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 18, 2014, 08:57:49 pm
Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Yes you can choose your rank. You can be a lance corporal and corporal and beyond, stuff like Sergeant-Major.

Nice, I thought there was no LCpl rank in the US army 1861-1865.

There wasn't, Edward's just a farb.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on September 19, 2014, 12:02:40 am
Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Yes you can choose your rank. You can be a lance corporal and corporal and beyond, stuff like Sergeant-Major.

Nice, I thought there was no LCpl rank in the US army 1861-1865.

There wasn't, Edward's just a farb.

there was in the USMC, but not in the army
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 19, 2014, 12:12:31 am
Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Yes you can choose your rank. You can be a lance corporal and corporal and beyond, stuff like Sergeant-Major.

Nice, I thought there was no LCpl rank in the US army 1861-1865.

There wasn't, Edward's just a farb.

there was in the USMC, but not in the army

Amazing uniforms! I read on the OP you can choose your ranks, is this true? 'Cos that's awesome!
Yes you can choose your rank. You can be a lance corporal and corporal and beyond, stuff like Sergeant-Major.

Nice, I thought there was no LCpl rank in the US army 1861-1865.
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 19, 2014, 03:26:31 am
Oooo Artillery Ordinance Sergeant.
That's Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant not Ordnance Sergeant
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 19, 2014, 08:51:29 pm
I thought RQMS wasn't a US Artillery rank.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 20, 2014, 11:27:36 am
Alright, here we have some lovely Zouaves incoming! :)
Can you name them?!

Credits goes to Docm30, who made the model and texture (I made the variations); also special thanks to Devmc99, who made them possible!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Ft5346tkc.jpg&hash=80c79d2d05ca35de9c6aff8b5b431ffd94a07776)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on September 20, 2014, 11:41:44 am
The first on the left is so amazing. :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 20, 2014, 12:16:28 pm
I thought RQMS wasn't a US Artillery rank.
It is. Ordnance Sergeant looks very different to RQMS. It's three chevrons and a star
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 20, 2014, 12:20:08 pm
Alright, here we have some lovely Zouaves incoming! :)
Can you name them?!

Credits goes to Docm30, who made the model and texture (I made the variations); also special thanks to Devmc99, who made them possible!

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The 1stLA Tigers ook amazing! Omg yes! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JackAubrey on September 20, 2014, 01:10:01 pm
Alright, here we have some lovely Zouaves incoming! :)
Can you name them?!

Credits goes to Docm30, who made the model and texture (I made the variations); also special thanks to Devmc99, who made them possible!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Ft5346tkc.jpg&hash=80c79d2d05ca35de9c6aff8b5b431ffd94a07776)

I think, from left to right: 76th Pennsylvania Volunteers (Keystone Zouaves, US), Louisiana Tigers (CSA), 146th NY Volunteers (Garrad's Tigers, US) and 5th NY Infantry for the last two...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 20, 2014, 01:23:16 pm
Both with the stripped pants are 1stLA Tigers. They wore both color jackets. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on September 20, 2014, 01:44:28 pm
Could one of em be 14th Brooklyn? Hashtag worst uniform researcher 2k14.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 20, 2014, 01:53:05 pm
Awesome uniforms! Can't wait, progress going excellent!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 20, 2014, 05:26:25 pm
Could one of em be 14th Brooklyn? Hashtag worst uniform researcher 2k14.

14th looked more like French Chasseurs than they did Zouaves.

On another note, replace the 69th with the 28th please :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on September 20, 2014, 06:37:33 pm
Oh yeah your right I need to Google stuff before I say stupid stuff.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on September 20, 2014, 06:40:07 pm
Could one of em be 14th Brooklyn? Hashtag worst uniform researcher 2k14.

14th looked more like French Chasseurs than they did Zouaves.

On another note, replace the 69th with the 28th please :D
This
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 20, 2014, 07:35:53 pm
The 28th wasn't active at Manassas, for an official unit..  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hammerstout on September 20, 2014, 07:39:08 pm
Are you sure you fixed the lag issues?, cornfields still seem to throw up huge lag spikes for me any time I look at them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 20, 2014, 07:50:37 pm
Are you sure you fixed the lag issues?, cornfields still seem to throw up huge lag spikes for me any time I look at them.

That issue should be fixed in the 0.5 patch weeks ago.
The cornfields got some LODs, which removes them nearly completly from distance.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 20, 2014, 08:20:51 pm
But... but mah 28th... muh Irish Legion...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 20, 2014, 10:01:23 pm
One of my favourite uniforms at the First Manassas.. the 11th Mississippi

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Feizjxyqo.jpg&hash=43425ddc65585de7207b50660bbd7394eb713694)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Fhfd5dl5h.jpg&hash=ea0f69d02351ab913b1e1bc9654a80be677eff48)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2F7bw7vqrg.jpg&hash=b1263ebb2e6b600fb9bc999d0516b0042a9a5ad2)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 20, 2014, 10:04:56 pm
Damn they are so nice! ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 20, 2014, 10:35:48 pm
One of my favourite uniforms at the First Manassas.. the 11th Mississippi

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Fhfd5dl5h.jpg&hash=ea0f69d02351ab913b1e1bc9654a80be677eff48)

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I just saw these uniforms today, at my reenactment. No Zouaves but.  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 20, 2014, 11:46:31 pm
1stLA Tigers Officer Uniform. ;D 8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Fhckp9tai.jpg&hash=37ce1b1340f5e09323aa0768a45b861865119575)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 20, 2014, 11:50:35 pm
NC infantry :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 21, 2014, 02:27:41 am
Awesome uniforms everywhere!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on September 21, 2014, 02:37:11 am
NC infantry :(

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic3.fjcdn.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fcomments%2FNo%2Bmeans%2Bno.%2BSTAHP%2Bmeans%2BSTAHP%2B_6acbdbb88801419d3ccc7cb841e1c89d.png&hash=20908cd9c9822d3e4587a408f0eeeabf65b763dc)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 21, 2014, 03:46:15 am
1stLA Tigers Officer Uniform. ;D 8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Fhckp9tai.jpg&hash=37ce1b1340f5e09323aa0768a45b861865119575)

Very Sexy
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 21, 2014, 04:10:26 am
NC infantry :(

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic3.fjcdn.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fcomments%2FNo%2Bmeans%2Bno.%2BSTAHP%2Bmeans%2BSTAHP%2B_6acbdbb88801419d3ccc7cb841e1c89d.png&hash=20908cd9c9822d3e4587a408f0eeeabf65b763dc)

dont lie you like mercing for me
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on September 21, 2014, 04:19:39 am
NC infantry :(

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic3.fjcdn.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fcomments%2FNo%2Bmeans%2Bno.%2BSTAHP%2Bmeans%2BSTAHP%2B_6acbdbb88801419d3ccc7cb841e1c89d.png&hash=20908cd9c9822d3e4587a408f0eeeabf65b763dc)

dont lie you like mercing for me

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jamspreader.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2Fummm-no.gif&hash=114b436802bfae23b48b54a3a158ffccf88605ed)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 21, 2014, 04:37:12 pm
Something I think would be amazing from any mod would be to have the ability to spawn is as every rank at the time available. So a artillery Lt.Col could spawn in with the red shoulder bands of an arty LtCol or the same for an Infantry Sergeant Major with blue chevrons.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 21, 2014, 04:42:45 pm
This mod has it, but as you said not every mod, I think L'aigle will have this.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JackAubrey on September 21, 2014, 04:50:59 pm
This mod has it, but as you said not every mod, I think L'aigle will have this.

Yes, of course my friend!...  8)

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on September 21, 2014, 04:51:59 pm
This really makes me wanna play N&S.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 21, 2014, 06:22:10 pm
This mod has it, but as you said not every mod, I think L'aigle will have this.
Currently it only has Cpt, Col, Sgt and normal private as the main body of ranks. It would be cool in to 1.0 update if it got all ranks available to play as
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 21, 2014, 06:32:05 pm
Oh yes!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on September 21, 2014, 07:16:38 pm
Relez date ploxx
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 21, 2014, 07:27:53 pm
Zouaves best aves.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 21, 2014, 07:29:27 pm
Tigers best Zouaves.

;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 21, 2014, 07:31:08 pm
NC infantry :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on September 21, 2014, 07:31:25 pm
New Conglomerate?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 21, 2014, 07:35:20 pm
Well, a small teaser, how those ingame ranks will work:

There will be a tool available (in your NaS folder), which has to be started before you start warband. In that tool, you have to choose your ingame rank.. after that, you can start your game.
When you are ingame now, you will have access to that rank ingame.

Example:
When you choose Captain, all your officers (of each unit class), will have the Captain rank. You and the people on the server will see that uniform/rank ingame.

Extra:
You can unlock unique regiment classes (9th NY Zouaves for example) with that tool, which will be available for some regiments.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tomäus on September 21, 2014, 07:48:04 pm
Sounds nice  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 21, 2014, 07:50:00 pm
Awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 21, 2014, 09:21:09 pm
Mother of mods
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 22, 2014, 03:12:50 am
Mother of mods
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 22, 2014, 11:19:21 am
Alright, I replaced the old 11th New York model with the new Zouave model, changed the textures and now, we have a lovely Uniform for them :)
To be honest, thats their pre-Manassas uniform. At Manassas, they had no jacket (just a red shirt), together with dark blue pants and a Havelock kepi... But I like their early gray Uniform so much!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140922%2Fv38us8ph.jpg&hash=481322435cb83b87cb7fb16963669a3ac87e2b64)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 22, 2014, 11:50:32 am
Amazing! Could we possibly see a randomized version with them in red shirts?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 22, 2014, 12:06:12 pm
Amazing! Could we possibly see a randomized version with them in red shirts?

There will be a sub-class, with that uniform.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 22, 2014, 12:14:08 pm
Nice. Could you possibly give us a preview of the rank thingy? Unless of course you don't want to or it's not ready yet.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 22, 2014, 12:34:31 pm
Its not ready yet :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 22, 2014, 12:38:45 pm
Alright :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 22, 2014, 01:29:32 pm
Since North Carolina had the best uniform and textile factories in the South, the new unit class "5th North Carolina Infantry" will get a lovely enlisted infantry styled uniform.
Mostly something like that:

North Carolina used black piping for enlisted, so maybe the uniform will get changed.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140922%2Fejmrylfo.jpg&hash=47e29ca44b9ca8ee5665e3d1f4728f6eae2309dd)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 22, 2014, 02:49:15 pm
Beautiful.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 22, 2014, 03:04:51 pm
Nice job Hinkel,  it's so beautiful.  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 22, 2014, 05:19:08 pm
*Drools slightly*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on September 22, 2014, 05:26:34 pm
Pls give us the skins of the 3rdNJ ;)
Spoiler
and my Swiss Officer
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on September 22, 2014, 07:35:21 pm
What about maps, especially maps catered towards 200 man line battle events?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 22, 2014, 07:46:48 pm
What about maps, especially maps catered towards 200 man line battle events?

I am not a mapper.. This is a job for the community and not for a developer  :P. But I don't get any new map yet.. So there might be no new maps...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 22, 2014, 08:01:56 pm
Commissar will be happy to see a NC skin. :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 22, 2014, 08:23:42 pm
Is it possible to get 250 people servers for the new patch?  Like Deluge
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 22, 2014, 08:51:36 pm
Is it possible to get 250 people servers for the new patch?  Like Deluge

Oh what's that, lag you say?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 22, 2014, 09:23:20 pm
WOO NORTH CAROLINA NORTH CAROLINA LUKE BRYAN JASON ALDEAN TAILGATIN' BBQ BEER WOOO NORTH CAROLINA

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.learnnc.org%2Flp%2Fmedia%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F10%2Fnorth_carolina_1861.png&hash=7b8a464d2061489eeb4255ea6b2b01c6a532a7a8)
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on September 22, 2014, 09:24:28 pm
We have a teacher in our school who is called Carolina.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on September 22, 2014, 09:32:04 pm
Is it possible to get 250 people servers for the new patch?  Like Deluge

Oh what's that, lag you say?
Get yoself a proper computer laggyboy

250 slots would be great
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 22, 2014, 09:32:28 pm
Is it possible to get 250 people servers for the new patch?  Like Deluge

Oh what's that, lag you say?
Get yoself a proper computer laggyboy

No no no no no no no no no no no no no.............
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on September 23, 2014, 04:47:09 pm
Scratch that.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 23, 2014, 05:42:01 pm
Pls give us the skins of the 3rdNJ ;)
Spoiler
and my Swiss Officer
[close]

Well, the 3rd NJ (infantry) should get the 33rd NJ uniform.. cause the 3rd would look like any other union :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140923%2F7xlj6cou.jpg&hash=e8d7cc739679995e8e0c00e079d641c027962711)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on September 23, 2014, 05:43:02 pm
And the 3rdNJ Cav and there Swiss Officer? :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on September 23, 2014, 06:10:51 pm
Pls give us the skins of the 3rdNJ ;)
Spoiler
and my Swiss Officer
[close]

Well, the 3rd NJ (infantry) should get the 33rd NJ uniform.. cause the 3rd would look like any other union :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140923%2F7xlj6cou.jpg&hash=e8d7cc739679995e8e0c00e079d641c027962711)

He is referring to the 3rd New Jersey Cavalry (The Butterflies) :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3rdnjcavalry.com%2F3rd_NJ_Cavalry_Uniform.jpg&hash=dd5478bd4d317551c425cb9404e1762950371094)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 23, 2014, 06:13:26 pm
Wonderful uniform, Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 23, 2014, 06:33:32 pm

He is referring to the 3rd New Jersey Cavalry (The Butterflies) :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3rdnjcavalry.com%2F3rd_NJ_Cavalry_Uniform.jpg&hash=dd5478bd4d317551c425cb9404e1762950371094)

Yes, I know.. ;) (older uniform)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140824%2Fgqv2v2m6.jpg&hash=1592bc7fde74fb8b0dc76f4bfc2a9ff9534adb42)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 23, 2014, 06:35:36 pm
Ooh, they nice.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 23, 2014, 08:57:57 pm
Ooh, they nice.
Yes, yes they are :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 23, 2014, 09:34:49 pm
I just love the 3rdNJ's jacket.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 24, 2014, 01:18:17 pm
Anything else?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on September 24, 2014, 06:32:52 pm
You're a greedy one aren't you...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 24, 2014, 06:56:55 pm
Hinkel is on this topic, will he post! Or will he watch us suffer?!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on September 24, 2014, 07:00:56 pm
Hinkel is on this topic, will he post! Or will he watch us suffer?!

He'll watch us suffer, he enjoys that kind of stuff :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on September 24, 2014, 07:07:26 pm
Hinkel is on this topic, will he post! Or will he watch us suffer?!

He'll watch us suffer, he enjoys that kind of stuff :P

Kinky ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on September 24, 2014, 07:39:21 pm
Everything looks awesome so far! But, when it comes to those customizable ranks, will we be able to be Sergeant-Majors? Was thinking about SgtMjr Mulcahy from glory...  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 24, 2014, 08:52:22 pm
Hinkel is on this topic, will he post! Or will he watch us suffer?!

He'll watch us suffer, he enjoys that kind of stuff :P
Oh myyyy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 24, 2014, 09:14:53 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_cUS222pc
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 25, 2014, 12:55:55 pm
Well.. here we have some lovely Generals! :)
Special thanks to Parrot, who figured out some fancy stuff for me!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140925%2Fdisqot5e.jpg&hash=87745746e3a8c27ec74016714f7b5d629a85eecb)


And some confederate gentlemen!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140925%2F693yeskc.jpg&hash=eff02db3364774bfc66cd1580feb97b7dcb45064)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 25, 2014, 01:25:22 pm
I am getting more and more existed for this!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 25, 2014, 01:34:43 pm
Amazing Hinkel, as always!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on September 25, 2014, 01:50:28 pm
Awesome ;)
Spoiler
still waiting for my Swiss Officer :P
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on September 25, 2014, 03:57:34 pm
Was wondering how the Generals were going to turn out. They look superb  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 25, 2014, 06:14:15 pm
You should try to add movement affects (Like clothes move when you do.) It's going to be a bit weird with those clothes  just staying still. They are to realistic for that. (I know someone's going to say it causes lag.)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on September 25, 2014, 07:18:58 pm
That kind of cloth movement will never be possible with the Warband engine.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on September 25, 2014, 07:22:41 pm
That kind of cloth movement will never be possible with the Warband engine.

psch! If you tinkered with the shaders a bit you'd be able to create a new clothing shader that moves subtly; it wouldn't be as realistic as jiggly bones but it would be something.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Docm30 on September 26, 2014, 02:17:59 am
That'd be simple for anyone with even basic knowledge of HLSL. It'd probably look like rubbish, though.

Nice work on the uniform variations, Hinkel. I never figured you'd get so much use out of my uniforms.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on September 26, 2014, 02:30:49 am
That'd be simple for anyone with even basic knowledge of HLSL. It'd probably look like rubbish, though.

I remember someone on Taleworlds doing something similar with a new hair shader they'd created (the hair moved with the wind), but there were all sorts of issues with clipping etc. I'd imagine it would be even worse with a whole uniform...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 26, 2014, 02:36:58 am
Either way I hope the BCoF developers are taking notes from Hinkle. The ranks idea and the uniforms are amazing!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 26, 2014, 03:43:46 am

Interesting.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on September 26, 2014, 03:47:01 am
I like north carolina
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Docm30 on September 26, 2014, 04:54:08 am
Either way I hope the BCoF developers are taking notes from Hinkle. The ranks idea and the uniforms are amazing!

Unfortunately it's too late for FSE to do what Hinkel did for the uniforms. I'm too busy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Olafson on September 26, 2014, 09:21:30 am
In theory it is possible to create a shader that uses screen space collision detection to simulate cloth physiscs in screen space.
But that sounds extremely complicated and useless. Either have it working properly, or not at all. No need for faked screen space cloth physics.



Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 26, 2014, 02:13:37 pm
Well, lets have some federals now:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140926%2Fgbs5jnt7.jpg&hash=f6afacc4178886b5737c055d28026d5ccff5c35b)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on September 26, 2014, 02:28:10 pm
55thNY in there I c?

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.over-blog-kiwi.com%2F0%2F63%2F76%2F08%2F20140217%2Fob_5f15d6_55th-ny.jpg&hash=1e71f39f289e645ad13a79bbd95a5e98014975a7)
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 26, 2014, 02:34:39 pm
Yay! US Cavalry!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 26, 2014, 02:40:15 pm
Yay! US Cavalry!

6th Pennsylvania Cavalry ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on September 26, 2014, 02:45:51 pm
Yay! US Cavalry!
6th Pennsylvania Cavalry ;)
I was just about to ask if you'd make them!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 26, 2014, 02:58:06 pm
Yay! US Cavalry!

But here you have some Cavalry men:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140926%2F3ji3dfrl.jpg&hash=18d494ca0677e0d7e1cfa4218c058c75ac439837)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on September 26, 2014, 03:00:17 pm
Will the generic regular Union infantry look the same?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 26, 2014, 03:01:14 pm
Will the generic regular Union infantry look the same?

They will look nearly the same.. maybe with some variations. Since they have the cool new uniform already, which come in with patch 0.5!
I will work on them later and post some screenshots.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on September 26, 2014, 03:02:18 pm
Will the generic regular Union infantry look the same?

They will look nearly the same.. maybe with some variations. Since they have the cool new uniform already, which come with patch 0.5!
I will work on them later and post some screenshots.

Sounds great
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 26, 2014, 03:27:52 pm
Love the uniform Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on September 26, 2014, 04:45:59 pm
That could be the regular union Batallion:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140926%2Fytyccmcr.jpg&hash=40d80466fef51ff39e0568dc73d679aba7af9b54)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 26, 2014, 04:59:49 pm
Ooh! Lovely, I like the sergeant.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on September 26, 2014, 05:11:02 pm
Nice, I was just wondering because the 40thNY (40th) will probably be playing this and their uniform was the standard issue union regular infantry uniform. Looks great  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jorvasker on September 26, 2014, 05:43:07 pm
Not to be rude or anything, but why isn't Docm30 working on his mod that thousands of people have been waiting for for over 3 years, instead of doing work for other mods.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on September 26, 2014, 05:44:39 pm
Not to be rude or anything, but why isn't Docm30 working on his mod that thousands of people have been waiting for for over 3 years, instead of doing work for other mods.

Because it's nice to work on more than one project at a time, stops you getting bored. And as L'A is free, Docm can do as he pleases.
There may be some other reasons, but I'm not going to try and guess as to what they might be.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 26, 2014, 07:35:05 pm
Ooh! Lovely, I like the sergeant.


I love it all!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 26, 2014, 07:41:52 pm
Me too!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on September 28, 2014, 07:45:17 am
One of my favourite uniforms at the First Manassas.. the 11th Mississippi

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Feizjxyqo.jpg&hash=43425ddc65585de7207b50660bbd7394eb713694)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2Fhfd5dl5h.jpg&hash=ea0f69d02351ab913b1e1bc9654a80be677eff48)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140920%2F7bw7vqrg.jpg&hash=b1263ebb2e6b600fb9bc999d0516b0042a9a5ad2)

Can i have an preview of this uniforms ingame and with the hats please?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 28, 2014, 06:16:05 pm
I would love to see it soon. Unlikely it's gotta happen tonight.  ::)  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 30, 2014, 11:45:13 pm
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18839.0;topicseen][img width=169 height=200]https://i.imgur.com/4Nx2n6J.png[/img][/url]
Union Signature
(https://i.imgur.com/4Nx2n6J.png)
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Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18839.0;topicseen][img width=340 height=253]https://i.imgur.com/mfvQHCd.png[/img][/url]
Confederate Signature
(https://i.imgur.com/mfvQHCd.png)
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Feel free to use any of them, just give me credit.  :)

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on September 30, 2014, 11:55:20 pm
I find it hilarious how people try to contribute to mods by making shitty signatures so they feel like they're doing something productive. People, copy/paste signatures with cooltext generated words on it is not a good signature. Make something completely from scratch, not hard to do. Be creative and original.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on September 30, 2014, 11:57:17 pm
I find it hilarious how people try to contribute to mods by making shitty signatures so they feel like they're doing something productive. People, copy/paste signatures with cooltext generated words on it is not a good signature. Make something completely from scratch, not hard to do. Be creative and original.

I use Google Docs too, and i am creative i don't use cool text plainly i edit it around a bit. To make my signature for example..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 01, 2014, 12:01:40 am
I find it hilarious how people try to contribute to mods by making shitty signatures so they feel like they're doing something productive. People, copy/paste signatures with cooltext generated words on it is not a good signature. Make something completely from scratch, not hard to do. Be creative and original.

Jeez man who bent you over and fucked your asshole?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on October 01, 2014, 12:09:04 am
Pls no cooltext
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 01, 2014, 12:12:22 am
Pls no cooltext

(https://i.imgur.com/XHTh44X.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on October 01, 2014, 12:13:04 am
Thats not cooltext

Feel free to ask NeaxusPrime, he used paint.net and gimp I believe. It is also possible to recreate the look of cooltext by using different shaders and filters to get shadows and outlines while still being original.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 01, 2014, 01:25:15 am
I find it hilarious how people try to contribute to mods by making shitty signatures so they feel like they're doing something productive. People, copy/paste signatures with cooltext generated words on it is not a good signature. Make something completely from scratch, not hard to do. Be creative and original.

Jeez man who bent you over and fucked your asshole?

That would be Duuring.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on October 01, 2014, 01:31:42 am
I find it hilarious how people try to contribute to mods by making shitty signatures so they feel like they're doing something productive. People, copy/paste signatures with cooltext generated words on it is not a good signature. Make something completely from scratch, not hard to do. Be creative and original.

It had to be said.

Also, is there a way my map could be put in the next update? Considering many leaders that go to my event like it a lot, it might be nice to have it permanently so people wouldn't have to always download it. :D

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on October 01, 2014, 03:49:02 am
Thats not cooltext

Feel free to ask NeaxusPrime, he used paint.net and gimp I believe. It is also possible to recreate the look of cooltext by using different shaders and filters to get shadows and outlines while still being original.

He uses cooltext pretty often actually lol.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on October 01, 2014, 03:50:46 am
Thats not cooltext

Feel free to ask NeaxusPrime, he used paint.net and gimp I believe. It is also possible to recreate the look of cooltext by using different shaders and filters to get shadows and outlines while still being original.

He uses cooltext pretty often actually lol.

Depends, but yeah I've noticed.

Anyway, really looking forward to the update, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 01, 2014, 01:25:49 pm
Really really looking forward to it
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 02, 2014, 05:09:32 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fr6zdw5yt.jpg&hash=cbb598fc296f1cd21c1c9e772630ab95e426dfda)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 02, 2014, 06:06:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2WzocbSd2w
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Andrew on October 02, 2014, 06:09:32 pm
Looking good Hinkel, like always. :-*


You should reserve the name again Marks ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 02, 2014, 06:10:24 pm
Looking good Hinkel, like always. :-*


You should reserve the name again Marks ::)

NaS it's mine m8888
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 02, 2014, 06:49:19 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)

Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 02, 2014, 10:03:55 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)
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Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
And from the kindness you've been dishing out he should listen to you why....?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 02, 2014, 10:30:24 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)
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Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
And from the kindness you've been dishing out he should listen to you why....?

Someone else has noticed, hurray! He's negative about things.  ::)

Anyways they look wonderful Hinkel, keep up the good work!  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on October 02, 2014, 10:46:20 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)
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Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
And from the kindness you've been dishing out he should listen to you why....?
This same animation was used in the NW enhancement mod, and not many people liked it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 02, 2014, 10:48:10 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)
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Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
And from the kindness you've been dishing out he should listen to you why....?
This same animation was used in the NW enhancement mod, and not many people liked it.

Have multiple animations then, and maybe a new reloading one?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 02, 2014, 11:19:10 pm
Worked a bit on the 69th New York Infantry - with their lovely NY Shell Jacket.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fwabowrw4.jpg&hash=6e5f0a6efc5b12d47ab587e2c9283b392864aff9)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 03, 2014, 01:45:45 am
Worked a bit on the 69th New York Infantry - with their lovely NY Shell Jacket.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fwabowrw4.jpg&hash=6e5f0a6efc5b12d47ab587e2c9283b392864aff9)

Hinkel, honestly do some work on the bayonets, some are big and not proportional to the musket's barrel and others are bad textured, 1/3 is totally black and the rest of the texture is a bit of grey
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 03, 2014, 03:44:12 am
Worked a bit on the 69th New York Infantry - with their lovely NY Shell Jacket.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fwabowrw4.jpg&hash=6e5f0a6efc5b12d47ab587e2c9283b392864aff9)

And please look for a new reload animation, or if it's possible have more then one.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on October 03, 2014, 04:14:31 am
It's possible to have multiple versions of every animation...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 03, 2014, 06:29:46 am
It's possible to have multiple versions of every animation...

Oh that sounds great.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 03, 2014, 07:52:03 am
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)
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Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
And from the kindness you've been dishing out he should listen to you why....?

Someone else has noticed, hurray! He's negative about things.  ::)

Anyways they look wonderful Hinkel, keep up the good work!  :D

Somebody is butthurt about getting told their signatures with cooltext in them with copy/paste pictures aren't good. I'm actually close with Hinkel, far more than the lot of you. I have pull with him. ;) 8) ::) :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 03, 2014, 08:14:35 am
Loving them!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 03, 2014, 10:32:39 am
Hinkel, honestly do some work on the bayonets, some are big and not proportional to the musket's barrel and others are bad textured, 1/3 is totally black and the rest of the texture is a bit of grey

Yeah, I am currently working on them... hope I can give them a better look :)
Beside that, there are only 2 Bayonets ingame  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 03, 2014, 12:46:35 pm
Without further adieu, I'd like to show off a new sub-class to the 69th New York Volunteer Infantry...

69th New York Volunteer Infantry, Company K "Meaghre's Zouaves" (http://www.69thnewyork.co.uk/Artist%20Prints/IrishZouaves.jpg)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141003%2F29ocdryw.jpg&hash=cf83a30d8e361e324f39cefd23ba02f7cf7f0e86)

Things to note:
1. Spanking new kepi with attached havelock cover, model by Docm30, retextured by our glorious Oberfürher Hinkel.
2. The beautiful and new bayonet model for a majority of the retextured muskets used by both Federal and Rebel infantries.
3. They're Irish, and are hung like hamsters... ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 03, 2014, 03:01:51 pm
Worked a bit on the 69th New York Infantry - with their lovely NY Shell Jacket.

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fwabowrw4.jpg&hash=6e5f0a6efc5b12d47ab587e2c9283b392864aff9)
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And please look for a new reload animation, or if it's possible have more then one.
I agree with Edward. The kneeling reload should have it's own animation as well.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 03, 2014, 04:57:49 pm
Without further adieu, I'd like to show off a new sub-class to the 69th New York Volunteer Infantry...

69th New York Volunteer Infantry, Company K "Meaghre's Zouaves" (http://www.69thnewyork.co.uk/Artist%20Prints/IrishZouaves.jpg)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141003%2F29ocdryw.jpg&hash=cf83a30d8e361e324f39cefd23ba02f7cf7f0e86)

Things to note:
1. Spanking new kepi with attached havelock cover, model by Docm30, retextured by our glorious Oberfürher Hinkel.
2. The beautiful and new bayonet model for a majority of the retextured muskets used by both Federal and Rebel infantries.
3. They're Irish, and are hung like hamsters... ;)

Looking good man, the 0.5 update unfortunaly removed this guys, I thinked they had the same destiny of the Revolving Rifle. Anyway they are looking good, and I noticed the fine work did on the bayonet. But what is that pocket in the left side of the Belt Buckle? Ammo Pocket?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 03, 2014, 05:59:40 pm
Will we see the muskets lock flick forward when we fire the gun? Like the muskets in Napoleonic Wars?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on October 03, 2014, 07:14:43 pm
Will we see the muskets lock flick forward when we fire the gun? Like the muskets in Napoleonic Wars?
Yeah, I'm missing this feature in North & South. Seeing an Enfield not having the hammer sparkle up the cap does look a bit odd.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 03, 2014, 08:55:47 pm
Confederate Irish Regiment - 10th Tennessee Infantry

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fm3bbdfii.jpg&hash=98af576f78479b7bc033db69988095809c44a949)
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Please, don't add those animations to the mod... I can't stand them.
And from the kindness you've been dishing out he should listen to you why....?

Someone else has noticed, hurray! He's negative about things.  ::)

Anyways they look wonderful Hinkel, keep up the good work!  :D

Somebody is butthurt about getting told their signatures with cooltext in them with copy/paste pictures aren't good. I'm actually close with Hinkel, far more than the lot of you. I have pull with him. ;) 8) ::) :)
These still no need to be a jerk about it, no one and I mean the maturity of FSE has had their fair share of those people.  Also i don't copy and paste. That's not how I make signatures pal, try making your own then bud. Making signatures requires you to copy and paste most of the time,  so don't try to be a smart ass.

Okay so you're close with Hinkel, even so I don't think he agrees with you being an ass to everyone/me. After all its hinkel. ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 03, 2014, 08:57:17 pm
Gentlemen let's not turn this thread into a conflict zone.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 03, 2014, 11:24:14 pm
Worked a bit on the 69th New York Infantry - with their lovely NY Shell Jacket.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141002%2Fwabowrw4.jpg&hash=6e5f0a6efc5b12d47ab587e2c9283b392864aff9)

Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yavz9rzaOSY
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on October 04, 2014, 12:11:18 pm
I can't remember which version of Manassas it was where it was listed but originally there was a plan to implement wagons that soldiers could refill their ammo at. Has this idea been brought forward for V1.0?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on October 04, 2014, 02:51:15 pm
I can't remember which version of Manassas it was where it was listed but originally there was a plan to implement wagons that soldiers could refill their ammo at. Has this idea been brought forward for V1.0?

Sounds cool!
And as were on the topic:
I dont find it realistic that artillery has infinte ammo. In my opinion shells and canistershots should be limited (the ones carried in the boxes). Those wagons Tavington spoke of could carry more iE.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 04, 2014, 06:43:03 pm
I can't remember which version of Manassas it was where it was listed but originally there was a plan to implement wagons that soldiers could refill their ammo at. Has this idea been brought forward for V1.0?

Sounds cool!
And as were on the topic:
I dont find it realistic that artillery has infinte ammo. In my opinion shells and canistershots should be limited (the ones carried in the boxes). Those wagons Tavington spoke of could carry more iE.
( message to Hinkel) Making North and South 1.0 unique sounds wonderful, that ammo wagon idea is great. Can't say trains would be possible however you could always ask the developers of Deluge to borrow or help you create new things. They were able to create a weather systems, working naval combat, 250 player slot servers and more. With the popularity of North and South i think you'll be able to convince them. (Not saying Hinkel can't make something like that on his own) :P :P Also how many  developers do you have helping you already Hinkel? By others i mean from other mods.

I apologize if am rambling.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on October 05, 2014, 01:21:02 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_x_4UElTDI

waiting on that 11thny being added tho k
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 05, 2014, 07:53:08 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_x_4UElTDI

waiting on that 11thny being added tho k

Oh, God. The original FSE OG Niggabones is back...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Siberian Cossack on October 05, 2014, 09:20:41 am
Hinkel what about animated caplocks ? ::) or they are still non-animated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TenDAjMAD_4
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 05, 2014, 11:06:32 am

Also how many  developers do you have helping you already Hinkel? By others i mean from other mods.

I apologize if am rambling.

Well, just me tbh.
Docm is very helpful with the models he provided, so I can replace all the old units and doing new textures for them.
Also, Parrot is helping me out on some cool parts :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on October 06, 2014, 02:02:30 pm
Hinkel what about animated caplocks ? ::)

^^ +1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 07, 2014, 08:49:07 pm
So?  Anything to surprise us with?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on October 07, 2014, 09:14:39 pm
So?  Anything to surprise us with?

no
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 08, 2014, 12:52:40 am
So?  Anything to surprise us with?

no

While we wait, care to explain what LOR is?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on October 08, 2014, 12:54:14 am
So?  Anything to surprise us with?

no

While we wait, care to explain what LOR is?

Oh no is that a secessionist group from FSE
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on October 08, 2014, 01:56:15 am
So?  Anything to surprise us with?

no

While we wait, care to explain what LOR is?

Oh no is that a secessionist group from FSE

Live on Reset is a gaming community.  It was the 54th. http://www.liveonreset.com/
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 08, 2014, 10:32:31 pm
Interesting. . .
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 09, 2014, 01:49:37 am
When y'all think v1.0 will be released? Maybe this month?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 09, 2014, 05:22:18 pm
Maybe this... weekend,  when am away on Saturday
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 09, 2014, 07:50:30 pm
Maybe as a Christmas present!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on October 09, 2014, 08:04:33 pm
Ooohhhh......
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 09, 2014, 08:56:36 pm
Hinkel, honestly i didn't liked too much the idea of medics, historicaly the medics on that period usually amputated wounded soldier's members which have been hit by minie balls, anyway if you get shot you will start bleeding to death like in Iron Europe?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on October 10, 2014, 08:58:09 am
Hinkel, honestly i didn't liked too much the idea of medics, historicaly the medics on that period usually amputated wounded soldier's members which have been hit by minie balls, anyway if you get shot you will start bleeding to death like in Iron Europe?
That's the point. If the medics don't do anything, you're gonna bleed to death. (Or die to poisoning) Of course, amputating might be a little far fetched to implement in this mod, but medics could also add some fun gameplay without having to cut someone's arms off.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 11, 2014, 05:04:52 pm
I propose you add the Gods & Generals/Gettysburg soundtrack as theme music for this mod.  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 11, 2014, 08:36:48 pm
Bleeding to Death would be an bad idea, i don't want to see the same stuff i saw on Iron Europe 20th century's battlefield chaos
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: TheHunted0 on October 12, 2014, 12:00:04 am
Bleeding to Death would be an bad idea, i don't want to see the same stuff i saw on Iron Europe 20th century's battlefield chaos
+1,000,000
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 12, 2014, 12:02:21 am
Bleeding to Death would be an bad idea, i don't want to see the same stuff i saw on Iron Europe 20th century's battlefield chaos
+1,000,000

Aaaand -999,999

I wouldn't mind bleeding out, at least something like in Blood and Iron with the medical kits and slowly bleeding out.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tomäus on October 12, 2014, 12:55:27 am
Yeah just one big point is that bleeding out is bad for small Regiments, because they may cant take a medic, or if they haven't got much men left :/
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on October 12, 2014, 02:41:04 am
I propose you add the Gods & Generals/Gettysburg soundtrack as theme music for this mod.  ;D

that would be copyright, and this subboard would be taken away.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 12, 2014, 05:09:27 am
I propose you add the Gods & Generals/Gettysburg soundtrack as theme music for this mod.  ;D

that would be copyright, and this subboard would be taken away.

Agreed
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 13, 2014, 12:01:04 am
Bleeding to Death would be an bad idea, i don't want to see the same stuff i saw on Iron Europe 20th century's battlefield chaos

Well, I like that Bleeding to death option.
I personally want to move a bit further to the old Secession days. Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 13, 2014, 12:10:55 am
Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.

That would be cool.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on October 13, 2014, 03:29:10 pm
Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.

That would be cool.
Never heard of that. What is it?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 13, 2014, 04:08:12 pm
Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.

That would be cool.
Never heard of that. What is it?

In our old secession mod, every soldier had a morale "bar".
When you are in a line, close to other soldiers, to your flag bearer or officer, you had a high morale.
When your line got fire, soldiers are killed next to you or an artillery shell exploded in your near, the morale went down. These events result in bad accuracy, slower reload rate and such.. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on October 13, 2014, 04:18:54 pm
^^^^^^

Add.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 13, 2014, 04:20:41 pm
+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on October 13, 2014, 06:37:39 pm
Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.

That would be cool.
Never heard of that. What is it?

In our old secession mod, every soldier had a morale "bar".
When you are in a line, close to other soldiers, to your flag bearer or officer, you had a high morale.
When your line got fire, soldiers are killed next to you or an artillery shell exploded in your near, the morale went down. These events result in bad accuracy, slower reload rate and such.. :)


This would make shooting exchanges much better, not to mention it would sway people away from just charging into melee. At least i would hope... :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 13, 2014, 07:11:17 pm
Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.

That would be cool.
Never heard of that. What is it?

In our old secession mod, every soldier had a morale "bar".
When you are in a line, close to other soldiers, to your flag bearer or officer, you had a high morale.
When your line got fire, soldiers are killed next to you or an artillery shell exploded in your near, the morale went down. These events result in bad accuracy, slower reload rate and such.. :)


This would make shooting exchanges much better, not to mention it would sway people away from just charging into melee. At least i would hope... :)
No no, you're right it would keep people away from melee charges. This would add such a realistic feel to the game too. Soldiers had emotions and this would help bring that to the light. ( handshaking and a hard time doing what you usually do like reloading your musket or revolver)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on October 13, 2014, 10:02:30 pm
Maybe even adding back the old Morale Feature.

That would be cool.
Never heard of that. What is it?
In our old secession mod, every soldier had a morale "bar".
When you are in a line, close to other soldiers, to your flag bearer or officer, you had a high morale.
When your line got fire, soldiers are killed next to you or an artillery shell exploded in your near, the morale went down. These events result in bad accuracy, slower reload rate and such.. :)
Will this in any way reimplement the idea of actuall LINEbattles? Cause linebattles of what i've ever been playing is just hidind behind fences, rocks and trees...  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 13, 2014, 10:49:50 pm
You cannot have linear battle style formations with rifled muskets.

Or at least ones where you will win.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: regwilliam on October 13, 2014, 11:41:06 pm
unless you have 100 men in double rank that can take the punishment xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 14, 2014, 03:34:59 am
You cannot have linear battle style formations with rifled muskets.

Or at least ones where you will win.

I seriously don't understand why everyone says this. Yes, the guns in this mod are more accurate then they are in NW. Although, its not so accurate like Blood and Iron or IE where you need to do skirmish formation for every unit. I dont think every event  should have skirimish formation allowed for every unit. Im not saying you have to be shoulder to shoulder. Im saying at least one man spacing standing up. But, if you are behind a fence or something of the sort, then you can crouch. But other than that, standing up at least 1 man spacing.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on October 14, 2014, 06:33:28 am
You cannot have linear battle style formations with rifled muskets.

Or at least ones where you will win.

I seriously don't understand why everyone says this. Yes, the guns in this mod are more accurate then they are in NW. Although, its not so accurate like Blood and Iron or IE where you need to do skirmish formation for every unit. I dont think every event  should have skirimish formation allowed for every unit. Im not saying you have to be shoulder to shoulder. Im saying at least one man spacing standing up. But, if you are behind a fence or something of the sort, then you can crouch. But other than that, standing up at least 1 man spacing.

THIS! +1

Anything more than 1 man spacing for line infantry is just pure fucking GARBAGE. Man up and take the shots you fuckers, otherwise play as skirmishers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on October 14, 2014, 07:12:23 am
You cannot have linear battle style formations with rifled muskets.

Or at least ones where you will win.

I seriously don't understand why everyone says this. Yes, the guns in this mod are more accurate then they are in NW. Although, its not so accurate like Blood and Iron or IE where you need to do skirmish formation for every unit. I dont think every event  should have skirimish formation allowed for every unit. Im not saying you have to be shoulder to shoulder. Im saying at least one man spacing standing up. But, if you are behind a fence or something of the sort, then you can crouch. But other than that, standing up at least 1 man spacing.

THIS! +1

Anything more than 1 man spacing for line infantry is just pure fucking GARBAGE. Man up and take the shots you fuckers, otherwise play as skirmishers.
See? This is what I mean. I didn't mean to stand in line with no man spacing. I could have said that but, STILL I mean c'mon, it's all one big skirmish using columns to move into position. (Have people ever thought of making the muskets a tad bit more inaccurate? Or perhaps even fire at long distances?) (Just an idea, please don't kill me.  :'()
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 14, 2014, 11:57:07 am
Perhaps you could have a forced crosshair removal, would make linebattles more intense and volleys more useful.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 14, 2014, 12:16:46 pm
Perhaps you could have a forced crosshair removal, would make linebattles more intense and volleys more useful.

Well, crosshair removal might be a bit to harsh, BUT the head symbol might be removed. So you actually have to use flags in LB.. otherwise you will get a friendly fire volley :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 14, 2014, 03:17:33 pm
Might not be a good idea, anyone playing the 33rd will have a horrible time unless they are being shot at by guys who know the differences in the uniforms.

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on October 14, 2014, 03:30:29 pm
Perhaps you could have a forced crosshair removal, would make linebattles more intense and volleys more useful.

Would be pretty useful as an additional server option
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 14, 2014, 03:36:55 pm
Would be worth experimenting with it making it a server side option perhaps.

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 14, 2014, 03:44:57 pm
Might not be a good idea, anyone playing the 33rd will have a horrible time unless they are being shot at by guys who know the differences in the uniforms.

Welcome to the First Battle of Manassas!  8)
That battle had lot of Friendly Fire..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 14, 2014, 03:51:08 pm
I'm not sure I've ever met anyone willing to play this module who is willing and enjoys being shot and and killed by friendlies.

Maybe if each round wasn't as almost ten minutes long, that would be a different story.

Basically, we're now in the middle of the usual fun versus realism debate.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 14, 2014, 04:44:42 pm
All I know is if more and more ideas pop up this mod update is never coming out.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 14, 2014, 04:48:13 pm
I'd be in favour of no head banners, something to keep troops together promoting more realistic formation usage in organised events, i'm sick of these single columns and lines.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tomäus on October 14, 2014, 05:29:24 pm
Well I think it should be optional, so I can only agree :

I'm not sure I've ever met anyone willing to play this module who is willing and enjoys being shot and and killed by friendlies.
[...]
Basically, we're now in the middle of the usual fun versus realism debate.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 14, 2014, 08:52:15 pm
I'd be in favour of no head banners, something to keep troops together promoting more realistic formation usage in organised events, i'm sick of these single columns and lines.

I'm for this m'self.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 14, 2014, 09:20:23 pm
Two things i have to say:

Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations , crouching only when the soldiers have some cover. Regiments should go to battle with their regimental colors in every line, the morale idea would be realistic and also improve the gameplay. I've tired of viewing a lot of lines without regimental colors or musicians, they are all about rankers, sargeants and colonels.
Regimental colors would be helpfull if the head banners be removed, they would server not only for identification as to boost and mantain morale to the troops! Also it's wonderfull to see regimental colors in battles, i want more realism!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 14, 2014, 09:25:01 pm
But if we add realism things will be haaaaard

/whining
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 14, 2014, 09:36:02 pm
That would be awesome to get the morale script from secession in. Although, banners do not need to be taken out it's just event hosts need to get this dumb skirmish formation for every unit 5 man spacing BS out of their head. And do at least one man spacing standing up.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 14, 2014, 09:41:09 pm
The only downside I see with the removal of banners would be difficulty forming up at the beginning of the LB. Other than that we lose literally nothing.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on October 14, 2014, 09:44:52 pm
The only downside I see with the removal of banners would be difficulty forming up at the beginning of the LB.

Then you officers had better learn to communicate properly :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 14, 2014, 10:00:53 pm
The only downside I see with the removal of banners would be difficulty forming up at the beginning of the LB.

Then you officers had better learn to communicate properly :P

>Implying most NW officers even bother to talk to eachother anymore.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on October 14, 2014, 10:07:19 pm
Are you seriously complaining about banner removal because you cant find your homies fast enough?
Ive got banners remived since I bought the game (yes also in events) because they look like shit.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 14, 2014, 10:10:10 pm
Dude. Read my posts. I'm playing devil's f*ckin advocate.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 14, 2014, 10:25:31 pm
Dude. Read my posts. I'm playing devil's f*ckin advocate.
+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on October 15, 2014, 04:01:08 pm
what about cavalry? with the whole moral boost or drop?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 15, 2014, 06:31:21 pm
The sight of the cavalry should bring the morale up. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 16, 2014, 02:36:45 am
One time for me is almost certain, we won't play the version 1.0 this month. Hinkel sad in this thread that the version 1.0 will come maybe to us as christmas present for us, so there is more stuff to the dev team do. Anyway, i think that all models are done, or at least most of then are, i believe that at least I, saw a lot of sneak peeks of the v1.0 units in this thread, like the Mississippi Infantry, Georgian Irish Regiment, 69th NY, Meagher Irish Zouaves and others.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 16, 2014, 01:03:17 pm
I hate to say it NicolasKiyoshi but you're kind of just stating the obvious for everybody.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 16, 2014, 01:05:12 pm
Perhaps there could be a message popping up in the bottom left showing an order when a trumpet/drum near you sounds for a sort of realism, to get people to cooperate better?  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fungus on October 16, 2014, 01:26:54 pm
Yeah lets remove banners!!
And while we are doing that, lets all assume that everyone who plays this mod is dedicated to being the best darn solider they can be!!
I mean hey, what are the chances that some regiments at events harbour one or two individuals who might "accidentally" shoot friendlies??


Expect the term "oops sorry cat on keyboard, thought you was the enemy" becoming a common sight in the chat.

 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 16, 2014, 01:41:51 pm
Oh, and mod needs confederate vampires.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq_Jgu7BNfM[/youtube]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on October 16, 2014, 01:45:06 pm
Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations

As cool as it looks in the films e.g Gettysburg and Gods & Generals, the fact that linebattles aren't shoulder to shoulder is what makes North & South fun and different from the tediousness of Napoleonic Wars.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 16, 2014, 01:50:48 pm
Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations

As cool as it looks in the films e.g Gettysburg and Gods & Generals, the fact that linebattles aren't shoulder to shoulder is what makes North & South fun and different from the tediousness of Napoleonic Wars.
NW doesn't even have linebattles. North and south should have a step forward and make a change with events where people need to use correct drill formations wise, perhaps and event where everyone was mixed up and moved into different units and had to ignore the cheesy regimental politics to get the job done with the use of correct formations of the period.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on October 16, 2014, 02:09:47 pm
I host a N&S LB every wednesday, infantry only and a no spreading rule. Shoulder to shoulder fighting. ive been hosting it for almost a year and still there are people saying there are no shoulder to shoulder events >.<
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on October 16, 2014, 07:26:28 pm
I host a N&S LB every wednesday, infantry only and a no spreading rule. Shoulder to shoulder fighting. ive been hosting it for almost a year and still there are people saying there are no shoulder to shoulder events >.<

Yup.

People who don't even play the mod actively think they know all the community and its events  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 17, 2014, 02:12:24 am
I hate to say it NicolasKiyoshi but you're kind of just stating the obvious for everybody.

Sorry, but somepeople who is viewing this thread maybe haven't saw the previous replies.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on October 17, 2014, 06:15:14 am
Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations

As cool as it looks in the films e.g Gettysburg and Gods & Generals, the fact that linebattles aren't shoulder to shoulder is what makes North & South fun and different from the tediousness of Napoleonic Wars.

If you don't like line infantry than you sir are playing the wrong game all together whether it be N&S or NW. Go play CoD, nub.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SeanBeansShako on October 17, 2014, 02:33:09 pm
If you do shoulder to shoulder line formations,  extend your rounds to something like 6 or 7 and don't expect regiments smalller than 12 people applying.

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 17, 2014, 02:34:41 pm
If you do shoulder to shoulder line formations,  extend your rounds to something like 6 or 7 and don't expect regiments smalller than 12 people applying.
Going back to my suggestion of mixing everyone up then putting them into random teams to make best use of linear tactics.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 17, 2014, 02:49:01 pm
If you do shoulder to shoulder line formations,  extend your rounds to something like 6 or 7 and don't expect regiments smalller than 12 people applying.
Going back to my suggestion of mixing everyone up then putting them into random teams to make best use of linear tactics.
This would be great fun if people would be good enough to listen to a single officer. The chances of getting people to all work together as a full formed and functioning unit under a given set of officers and NCOs would be a nightmare. There is also the issue of trolls who might go on TK rampages.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on October 17, 2014, 05:45:09 pm
If you don't like line infantry than you sir are playing the wrong game all together whether it be N&S or NW. Go play CoD, nub.

Where did i say i didn't like line infantry?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 17, 2014, 11:21:47 pm
So this is where that battle cry's from...
Spoiler
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZ1M3iN-UE[/youtube]
Watch from 3:20
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on October 17, 2014, 11:23:09 pm
So this is where that battle cry's from...
Spoiler
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZ1M3iN-UE[/youtube]
Watch from 3:20
[close]

... Everyone already knows that.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 17, 2014, 11:58:18 pm
So this is where that battle cry's from...
Spoiler
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZ1M3iN-UE[/youtube]
Watch from 3:20
[close]

Exactly 2 sounds of it :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 18, 2014, 03:11:04 am
Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations

As cool as it looks in the films e.g Gettysburg and Gods & Generals, the fact that linebattles aren't shoulder to shoulder is what makes North & South fun and different from the tediousness of Napoleonic Wars.

If you don't like line infantry than you sir are playing the wrong game all together whether it be N&S or NW. Go play CoD, nub.

Agreed with you, don't like line battles, go play Call of Duty with annoying kids!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on October 18, 2014, 06:38:06 pm
Agreed with you, don't like line battles, go play Call of Duty with annoying kids!

I am sorry but your grammar is awful, hence i am struggling to understand what you just wrote.

If it's Call of Duty 3 or World At War sure, i'll play the campaigns to give you satisfaction  :-\.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on October 18, 2014, 10:12:18 pm
Agreed with you, don't like line battles, go play Call of Duty with annoying kids!

I am sorry but your grammar is awful, hence i am struggling to understand what you just wrote.

If it's Call of Duty 3 or World At War sure, i'll play the campaigns to give you satisfaction  :-\.
The first 3 CoDs and WaW had some pretty good campaigns.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 19, 2014, 02:17:17 am
Agreed with you, don't like line battles, go play Call of Duty with annoying kids!

I am sorry but your grammar is awful, hence i am struggling to understand what you just wrote.

If it's Call of Duty 3 or World At War sure, i'll play the campaigns to give you satisfaction  :-\.
The first 3 CoDs and WaW had some pretty good campaigns.

Ghosts was good
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on October 19, 2014, 02:56:55 am
I'd like to blow this bridge between North & South & CoD now! Please...  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 19, 2014, 04:36:50 am
I'd like to blow this bridge between North & South & CoD now! Please...  :-\

UAV inbound
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 19, 2014, 05:25:55 am
#Yorkshire

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 19, 2014, 05:29:18 am
#1263
    8

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F50987353284929475%2FE9145124D41F57C4134EA558517467E895C87D18%2F&hash=33d58104d1ba17c19860ca87f4ab9578d4c6b044)
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 19, 2014, 05:43:46 am
#1263
    8

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F50987353284929475%2FE9145124D41F57C4134EA558517467E895C87D18%2F&hash=33d58104d1ba17c19860ca87f4ab9578d4c6b044)
[close]

Rome 2 Total War Medieval Mod?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 19, 2014, 05:53:59 am
#Yorkshire

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
[close]

Tell me man, how you did it? I'm interested
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 19, 2014, 06:15:29 am
Just simply pasted a confederate flag then the yorkshire picture over one of the regiments flags in paint.net.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 19, 2014, 08:33:32 am
#1263
    8

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F50987353284929475%2FE9145124D41F57C4134EA558517467E895C87D18%2F&hash=33d58104d1ba17c19860ca87f4ab9578d4c6b044)
[close]

I can't get this fucking mod to work, annoys my penis...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on October 19, 2014, 11:39:39 am
Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations

As cool as it looks in the films e.g Gettysburg and Gods & Generals, the fact that linebattles aren't shoulder to shoulder is what makes North & South fun and different from the tediousness of Napoleonic Wars.

If you don't like line infantry than you sir are playing the wrong game all together whether it be N&S or NW. Go play CoD, nub.

Have you ever even played a NaS linebattle?           Dont think so, even line infantry act like skirms its not NW...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on October 19, 2014, 01:50:00 pm
I did and it felt exactly the same for me
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 19, 2014, 01:58:27 pm
The EU event yesterday on the 26SC server where we had a single line of line infantry and around 20 skirmishers split into two groups per side worked pretty well.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 19, 2014, 07:00:57 pm
Linebattles should be more about shoulder to shoulder formations

As cool as it looks in the films e.g Gettysburg and Gods & Generals, the fact that linebattles aren't shoulder to shoulder is what makes North & South fun and different from the tediousness of Napoleonic Wars.

If you don't like line infantry than you sir are playing the wrong game all together whether it be N&S or NW. Go play CoD, nub.

Have you ever even played a NaS linebattle?           Dont think so, even line infantry act like skirms its not NW...

Yes man, it's very common to see line infantry crouching and 2 man spacing like skirmishers; i think the only diference of them and the skirmishers is that they can only crouch when they are on cover. It's boring man, also the regiment i'm in ( I don't want to say the name ) , don't have strategy, they very often charge enemies that are on high ground, so as expected they lose a lot of men. And other stuff i prefer to don't comment here.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on October 19, 2014, 07:07:25 pm
A lot if not all of the NA speakers here attend my event. If you would like a thorough explanation of my rules and our mindset, please click this link.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18398.0

We have to be doing something right. We get average 150-200 people.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 20, 2014, 05:59:04 am
Could I put forwards the idea of a preacher's uniform.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 20, 2014, 06:05:10 am
Here's a speech that makes me think of N&S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX25PDBb708
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 20, 2014, 05:31:42 pm
Could I put forwards the idea of a preacher's uniform.

Or we could have Charlie the Chaplain!

Spoiler
I know it's a bad joke.
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 20, 2014, 05:51:10 pm


Well, mostly like this :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UhJpviVYg
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on October 20, 2014, 09:35:44 pm
Here is some clips of 150th Cedar Creek which happened this weekend. Sadly, I couldn't go with my unit  :-\ 
 
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnStSUqrHd4
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 20, 2014, 10:55:39 pm
Could I put forwards the idea of a preacher's uniform.

Or we could have Charlie the Chaplain!

Spoiler
I know it's a bad joke.
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Deep groan
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 20, 2014, 11:07:25 pm
Mod update is cancelled, spoke to Hinkel just five minutes ago. Told me to make a post. He works for the German government and has a lack of time. Will be giving out assets to a new team so this mod will be updated. But, momentarily is cancelled.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 20, 2014, 11:11:58 pm
LOL Petschie?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on October 20, 2014, 11:12:19 pm
Mod update is cancelled, spoke to Hinkel just five minutes ago. Told me to make a post. He works for the German government and has a lack of time. Will be giving out assets to a new team so this mod will be updated. But, momentarily is cancelled.

Fuck sake, at least implement the new uniforms...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 20, 2014, 11:14:00 pm
Considering Hinkel's post directly after yours, I'm not 100% sure to believe you.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on October 20, 2014, 11:14:57 pm
Mod update is cancelled, spoke to Hinkel just five minutes ago. Told me to make a post. He works for the German government and has a lack of time. Will be giving out assets to a new team so this mod will be updated. But, momentarily is cancelled.

I also spoke to Hinkel! We talked about STADTAFFE! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 20, 2014, 11:15:23 pm
Its NOT true.

Well, he is correct in terms of work and a bit lack of time, but its not cancelt and won't be cancelt at all..  :o :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 20, 2014, 11:15:27 pm
To all of you who believed that, you lose the game of life.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F000%2F260%2Fyoujustlost.jpg&hash=d5ffb83981270459e62808561ddfd498e29529eb)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 21, 2014, 01:12:22 am
To all of you who believed that, you lose the game of life.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F000%2F260%2Fyoujustlost.jpg&hash=d5ffb83981270459e62808561ddfd498e29529eb)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fclassandtrashshow.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F04%2Flies.gif&hash=fdeef8525881f0e60297c9cb747f912f6b0b2648)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 21, 2014, 06:47:43 pm
I think that this means that version 1.0 will not be released this year  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 22, 2014, 01:44:51 am
I think that this means that version 1.0 will not be released this year  :'(

Don't

You

Lie
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on October 22, 2014, 02:13:28 am
Still hoping on a Christmas release myself  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on October 22, 2014, 03:52:34 am
i think hinkel is AIMING for a December release. doesnt mean it will be released in December tho.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 24, 2014, 04:34:15 pm
Thanksgiving mayybe, or November ^3
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Musickman on October 24, 2014, 09:23:24 pm
Hello Hinkel,

I wanted to put an application in for FM 1.0, or WoR for The 3rd Kentucky Infantry unit in game. After some research, I found a very cool uniform that was used by the 9th KY, I will post attachment of uniform.

Regiment name: The 3rd Kentucky Infantry


Regiment pictures (references of the uniform and flag): https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L74CTwQQejs/TG2I9oakNZI/AAAAAAAAABk/Or6VQG-XXo4/s1600/confederatekentucky.jpg


Why would you like to see your regiment in Gettysburg? To show how a disciplined regiment, with mature leaders and tactical thinking, can make a big difference in a battle. 


Please describe your North and South experiences: I currently lead the 3rd KY, and have been playing since  Mount and Musket. Our regiment is growing everyday, and I strive for the regiment to be a front runner in the community.

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 25, 2014, 03:54:04 pm
Can we do that?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on October 25, 2014, 10:24:34 pm
Can we do that?

No.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 25, 2014, 11:52:02 pm
3rdKY regiment is getting bigger on the North and South Community guys, musicman even own an youtube channel, i've seen people of other napoleonic wars modules talking about ya. Anyway, I can see y'all in a lot of events organized by the 26thNC commanders
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 26, 2014, 12:36:48 am
I could say the same of the 18thMA but that's none of my business.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 26, 2014, 03:08:48 am
Can we do that?

No.

Hinkel decided to make the 9th New York as a private unit. I don't know why he did this, but he did.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 26, 2014, 03:48:37 am
Can we do that?

No.

Hinkel decided to make the 9th New York as a private unit. I don't know why he did this, but he did.
He agreed when I asked him in private to also create a unit for my reg but he's gone cold turkey on me recently.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 26, 2014, 03:55:01 am
lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 26, 2014, 04:59:20 am
lol
described in 3 letters
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 26, 2014, 12:16:57 pm
These days I download the old secession mod of warband i've saw mentionated on this thread because of the morale system. Anyway, i found some unic units that should reappear in game maybe, and of course, with uniforms remasterialized. The secession mod forage's cap still in use, the old kepis were horrible. Anyway, getting back to what i want to say, i wish i could see units like 1st Texas in Game.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on October 26, 2014, 12:50:18 pm
Hello Hinkel,

I wanted to put an application in for FM 1.0, or WoR for The 3rd Kentucky Infantry unit in game. After some research, I found a very cool uniform that was used by the 9th KY, I will post attachment of uniform.

Regiment name: The 3rd Kentucky Infantry


Regiment pictures (references of the uniform and flag): https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L74CTwQQejs/TG2I9oakNZI/AAAAAAAAABk/Or6VQG-XXo4/s1600/confederatekentucky.jpg


Why would you like to see your regiment in Gettysburg? To show how a disciplined regiment, with mature leaders and tactical thinking, can make a big difference in a battle. 


Please describe your North and South experiences: I currently lead the 3rd KY, and have been playing since  Mount and Musket. Our regiment is growing everyday, and I strive for the regiment to be a front runner in the community.

There are N&S regiments who have been around for 2/3 years and who dont even ask for their own skin. Some did. Hinkel said no to them because he dropped that idea long ago.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fungus on October 26, 2014, 02:25:57 pm
A nice looking skin though
9/11 would wear if i could
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 26, 2014, 06:00:16 pm
Which skin ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fungus on October 26, 2014, 06:32:04 pm
Take a guess :/
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 26, 2014, 07:09:18 pm
Without further adieu, I'd like to show off a new sub-class to the 69th New York Volunteer Infantry...

69th New York Volunteer Infantry, Company K "Meaghre's Zouaves" (http://www.69thnewyork.co.uk/Artist%20Prints/IrishZouaves.jpg)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141003%2F29ocdryw.jpg&hash=cf83a30d8e361e324f39cefd23ba02f7cf7f0e86)

Things to note:
1. Spanking new kepi with attached havelock cover, model by Docm30, retextured by our glorious Oberfürher Hinkel.
2. The beautiful and new bayonet model for a majority of the retextured muskets used by both Federal and Rebel infantries.
3. They're Irish, and are hung like hamsters... ;)

Looking good man, the 0.5 update unfortunaly removed this guys, I thinked they had the same destiny of the Revolving Rifle. Anyway they are looking good, and I noticed the fine work did on the bayonet. But what is that pocket in the left side of the Belt Buckle? Ammo Pocket?

this one?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Musickman on October 26, 2014, 07:31:42 pm
There are N&S regiments who have been around for 2/3 years and who dont even ask for their own skin. Some did. Hinkel said no to them because he dropped that idea long ago.
[/quote]

Ok.......I was just responding to a section of the original post, and wanted to put my regiment forward, plus it was a good uniform. I think it will be Hinkel who decides what he will add, if there are regiments who do not wish to do this, that's their choice,and irrelevant to the conversation. There are a number of regiments, I have read, that have put forth their application.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fungus on October 26, 2014, 10:24:53 pm
this one?
No
edit, didnt even look at the one you posted
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on October 26, 2014, 11:04:17 pm
this one?
Yesh

Thats a cap box, to prime your rifle! ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fungus on October 26, 2014, 11:21:57 pm
Ffs I need to pay more attention.
This is the skin I like to avoid any more confusion
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L74CTwQQejs/TG2I9oakNZI/AAAAAAAAABk/Or6VQG-XXo4/s1600/confederatekentucky.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on October 28, 2014, 05:29:41 am
To get people hyped again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53X1K71G5AA
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 28, 2014, 06:20:53 am
That was an awkward choice of video "music." Had nothing to do with e ACW.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on October 28, 2014, 06:49:15 am
To get people hyped again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53X1K71G5AA

Not what I see when I play in the Saturday lb :P

My 350-400 ping ruins it all  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on October 28, 2014, 12:28:59 pm
To get people hyped again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53X1K71G5AA

Sorry, but the south will win! Down with the Union! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on October 28, 2014, 06:37:32 pm
To get people hyped again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53X1K71G5AA

Sorry, but the south will win! Down with the Union! :)

I'm also with the confederate side of this conflict but I have to say one thing; didn't liked this video, why is the speech of the dictator character of charlie charplin on this video, it would be more approprietate to an allied side of the world war 2 video not the american civil war!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on October 28, 2014, 08:01:55 pm
To get people hyped again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53X1K71G5AA

Not what I see when I play in the Saturday lb :P

My 350-400 ping ruins it all  :'(

Which Saturday lb do you come to? Mine?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on October 31, 2014, 04:17:20 pm
Hinkel asked me to ruin the environment for the next version...

Maryland my Maryland in (current version) 0.5
(https://i.imgur.com/PbKENPs.jpg)
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Maryland my Maryland with the new environment
(https://i.imgur.com/E7kWMZD.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on October 31, 2014, 04:18:18 pm
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on October 31, 2014, 04:18:53 pm
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 31, 2014, 04:40:03 pm
Looks very noice
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on October 31, 2014, 05:35:03 pm
Love those red artillery facings
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Olafson on October 31, 2014, 05:43:47 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.

I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 31, 2014, 06:07:48 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.

I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.
At least we CAN play this. Now remind me where Battle Cry of Freedom is......oh yeah
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on October 31, 2014, 06:07:55 pm
The only part that uses stuff from PL would be the trees and some bushes... other than that it's all new stuff.

And the trees are pretty generic in terms of where they could be native to...

Grist Mill Trail, Maryland
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.everytrail.com%2Fpics%2Ffullsize%2F1871471-along_the_at.jpg&hash=841f0d2e2eca6ec9ee432de2c36447ccdb483dad)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 31, 2014, 08:20:53 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.

I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.

As an American, that most certainly looks like part of America.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on October 31, 2014, 08:48:23 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.

I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.

As an American, that most certainly looks like part of America.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Olafson on October 31, 2014, 09:24:44 pm
I am not talking about the models, I am talkin about the colors. It looks like depest of Autumn/Winter. And it is way to dark.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 31, 2014, 09:28:40 pm
Honestly, I can see it. Cold Harbor looks like those pics. Perhaps places like First Manassas would be a bit lighter.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on October 31, 2014, 09:28:51 pm
Serbian civil war?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on October 31, 2014, 09:33:46 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.


I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.

I agree with the bolder part. I hate how these landscapes look. Leave it native, please.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on October 31, 2014, 09:38:10 pm
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
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Looks sexy as hell!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 31, 2014, 09:53:10 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.


I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.


I agree with the bolder part. I hate how these landscapes look. Leave it native, please.

Do you just hate everything?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on October 31, 2014, 11:04:35 pm
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
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Looks sexy as hell!
How'd he get early access :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on November 01, 2014, 12:22:44 am
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
[close]

Looks sexy as hell!
How'd he get early access :(

He made it
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 01, 2014, 01:41:06 am
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
[close]

Looks sexy as hell!
How'd he get early access :(

He made it

No he's helping with development, heh we all know Hinkel is the head developer, ...right?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 01, 2014, 01:42:11 am
And yes that does look like America, I've been to Maryland once and it's just like this. Same goes for states like Pennsylvania or Delaware.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on November 01, 2014, 02:03:57 am
Parrot must have done the Scenery. I think Hinkels does uniforms, sounds etc. 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on November 01, 2014, 03:50:38 pm
Parrot must have done the Scenery. I think Hinkels does uniforms, sounds etc.

It's not just Hinkel and Parrot working on this mod you know.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on November 01, 2014, 05:00:05 pm
And yes that does look like America, I've been to Maryland once and it's just like this. Same goes for states like Pennsylvania or Delaware.

Not everything looks like a swamp. Come down to the marshes if you want some.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 01, 2014, 09:31:04 pm
And yes that does look like America, I've been to Maryland once and it's just like this. Same goes for states like Pennsylvania or Delaware.

Not everything looks like a swamp. Come down to the marshes if you want some.
Ik , I was talking about Northeast and central
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on November 01, 2014, 11:02:42 pm
Please release this soon...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on November 01, 2014, 11:18:07 pm
Please release this soon...

i think hinkel is aiming for a december release
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on November 01, 2014, 11:49:52 pm
31.12 release it on my Birthday pls :=*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 02, 2014, 12:42:40 am
Surprise release this Sunday
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on November 02, 2014, 08:09:20 am
OFFICAL RELEASE DATE: 32.13.2014
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 02, 2014, 04:33:46 pm
Surprise release this Sunday

What M8 ????
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on November 02, 2014, 08:38:59 pm
Please stop that release discussion. No idea, if it will be out in december or somewhere 2015.
Also, it will just contain the new models and units :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on November 02, 2014, 08:52:42 pm
No new fancy artillery?  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 02, 2014, 09:36:34 pm
Please stop that release discussion. No idea, if it will be out in december or somewhere 2015.
Also, it will just contain the new models and units :)

Please don't hurt me
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 02, 2014, 11:54:09 pm
Please stop that release discussion. No idea, if it will be out in december or somewhere 2015.
Also, it will just contain the new models and units :)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! , it won't even be on the first half of the year, i tought it would be on the december or january and I read this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeR6uYxU50
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 03, 2014, 03:10:55 am
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on November 03, 2014, 03:45:13 am
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 03, 2014, 04:02:28 am
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

It's even worse with foc.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Chadric on November 03, 2014, 01:32:32 pm
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

It's even worse with foc.
That's why we (the 26thNC) do multiple lines in urban combat, you have to adjust your lines to the combat zone. giant ass lines suck in urban areas, but 3 groups of 10 with a whisper to talk on is great.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on November 03, 2014, 03:41:29 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Another mod that uses UglyLandscapes and breaks the looks of the game.
Apparently the AMERICAN Civil War was fought in eastern Europe in the middle of autumn?

If you want to improve the looks of the game do it properly. Make it look real. Desaturating everything, darkening all textures and adding UglyLandscapes is not going to make it look better. It is going to make it look like eastern europe.

I was looking forward to the new version. Now I am looking forward to not playing it.

While I love this mod, he is sort of correct logically speaking. For example, on a sunny day the Bull Run battlefield would be much brighter in the midday sun. The battlefields and flora in this mod are heavily darkened, but it really doesn't change how much I enjoy the mod.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 04, 2014, 06:32:01 pm
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

Sorry but i know an way to command all this men, divide then in at least 2 lines, both will have to act shoulder to shoulder, no 2 man spacing like i've see na lot in North and South, shoulder to shoulder lines would provide stronger firing volleys too!

It's even worse with foc.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 04, 2014, 06:32:40 pm
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

It's even worse with foc.

Sorry but i know an way to command all this men, divide then in at least 2 lines, both will have to act shoulder to shoulder, no 2 man spacing like i've see na lot in North and South, shoulder to shoulder lines would provide stronger firing volleys too!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on November 04, 2014, 07:15:03 pm
Spoiler
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

It's even worse with foc.

Sorry but i know an way to command all this men, divide then in at least 2 lines, both will have to act shoulder to shoulder, no 2 man spacing like i've see na lot in North and South, shoulder to shoulder lines would provide stronger firing volleys too!
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I hate to say it but you really haven't lead 30+ guys. It is not that simple
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on November 04, 2014, 07:16:26 pm
Try having a training session, drill, drill and drill!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 04, 2014, 07:42:32 pm
Spoiler
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

It's even worse with foc.

Sorry but i know an way to command all this men, divide then in at least 2 lines, both will have to act shoulder to shoulder, no 2 man spacing like i've see na lot in North and South, shoulder to shoulder lines would provide stronger firing volleys too!
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I hate to say it but you really haven't lead 30+ guys. It is not that simple

That's also a lie. Also most N&S events have FoC,  so in urban combat you would have no idea where the guy shot you from and once one side starts losing the whole regiment will be whipped out. It's hard keeping all of your men alive in such a tight space. Not staying i hate urban combat.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on November 04, 2014, 09:01:08 pm
Before anyone talks you guys should come to my NaS event or at least look at the videos of it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 04, 2014, 10:36:53 pm
Try having a training session, drill, drill and drill!

I agree with this drills to the men, but also i sugest to create squads, in this situation of 30 men, do 2 squads with 15 men and command one squad and assign the other squad to one of your officers. Also if you want to be everywhere against your enemies, do a lot of squads, and try ambushing your enemy everywhere you can and try to keep the element surprise too!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 07, 2014, 11:39:59 pm
Waggons?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on November 08, 2014, 12:11:50 am
Waggons?
Yes supply wagons which will have ammo in them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 08, 2014, 12:23:22 am
Waggons?
Yes supply wagons which will have ammo in them.

Will the wagons be destroyable? There is already some wagon models in some maps. One day i presed an button ( i don't remember the button ) and some red error stuff appeared in game global chat!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 10, 2014, 04:20:52 am
Thanks hinkel, wish our numbers didn't drop so much but
(https://i.imgur.com/bJhgY5A.png)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 13, 2014, 11:10:49 pm
Thanks hinkel, wish our numbers didn't drop so much but
(https://i.imgur.com/bJhgY5A.png)
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Excuse me but this is an colored regiment or just your character is colored?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on November 13, 2014, 11:37:54 pm
I think it's just his character lol.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 14, 2014, 04:50:50 pm
I think it's just his character lol.
Right on the check.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 15, 2014, 01:22:33 am
Anyway, the sword and musket iddle animations are looking bad man. In the musket one, the feet should be lined up to the front. The sword iddle animation should be the napoleonic wars original one, as seen on the previous screenshots, the hand that is on the character's belt have disappeared by mixing with the belt model
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on November 15, 2014, 01:42:06 am
Anyway, the sword and musket iddle animations are looking bad man. In the musket one, the feet should be lined up to the front. The sword iddle animation should be the napoleonic wars original one, as seen on the previous screenshots, the hand that is on the character's belt have disappeared by mixing with the belt model

If you are able to make entire new animations, everybody would be greatful, if you can share it to the mod!  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on November 15, 2014, 08:38:47 pm
Hope it's going well
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on November 16, 2014, 03:09:20 am
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
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Holy crap, I love it so much. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 17, 2014, 03:41:21 am
How could he do this, you've ruined it on his orders, this is to cover up 9/11

I'm so sorry D: I couldn't help myself!


Some bonus images from Down By The River
(https://i.imgur.com/MRKX6SN.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/r7z5Nxu.jpg)
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Holy crap, I love it so much. :)

Nice arty kepi, at least the old kepis have been removed! Now we are using the 0.5 ones!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on November 21, 2014, 07:13:02 pm
Is there a set day on when the update will come out? :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on November 21, 2014, 07:17:03 pm
Is there a set day on when the update will come out? :D

No.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on November 22, 2014, 08:28:55 am
So i learned something from today's N&S NA linebattle. We need maps with less fucking towns and man made objects.

Nah I disagree, I like the open field combat from time to time but I would prefer more urban scenarios. More in depth towns.

Then you haven't been in charge of a 30+ man line in a civil war urban setting, because the combat is like hell or near impossible. I officially hate towns where you get a shitty spawn.

It's even worse with foc.

No I have, its makes for more tactical combat. I find it more fun and interesting to push to victory, house by house. Open field combat is fun and all. But I like the nitty-gritty.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on November 23, 2014, 12:41:53 am
So, i think all the new models have been done, but when will the codes will be finished to the update be released? I'm very ansious
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on November 28, 2014, 02:12:49 am
Modding isn't only about updating a few lines of code :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on December 01, 2014, 03:15:38 am
26thNC in new update!

Half Life 3 confirmed

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141123%2Fdd5x8ixu.jpg&hash=90ba8b7158a8b5f72860397c912d088012c91a15)

Hinkel please tell me we will be ultra melee super shooting op infantry who can also ride cav, please tell me this!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on December 01, 2014, 04:26:45 am
26thNC in new update!

Half Life 3 confirmed

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141123%2Fdd5x8ixu.jpg&hash=90ba8b7158a8b5f72860397c912d088012c91a15)

Hinkel please tell me we will be ultra melee super shooting op infantry who can also ride cav, please tell me this!

^^ This
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 01, 2014, 04:33:07 am
Spoiler
26thNC in new update!

Half Life 3 confirmed

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141123%2Fdd5x8ixu.jpg&hash=90ba8b7158a8b5f72860397c912d088012c91a15)

Hinkel please tell me we will be ultra melee super shooting op infantry who can also ride cav, please tell me this!
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[/spoiler]

^^ This

9thNY Melee OP

Yes?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Museal on December 01, 2014, 08:21:01 am
Is the 9thNY uniform available for download and what class dose it change out ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on December 01, 2014, 12:04:17 pm
Is the 9thNY uniform available for download and what class dose it change out ?
There is a reason the uniform was not made instantly available. It's for the 9thNY and the 9thNY only. No thieving Confeds shale lay their hands on them!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 01, 2014, 12:22:56 pm
Is the 9thNY uniform available for download and what class dose it change out ?
There is a reason the uniform was not made instantly available. It's for the 9thNY and the 9thNY only. No thieving Confeds shale lay their hands on them!

Bravescot.. just watch this for 2 minutes.. thats how the war ended  8) ;D

youtube.com/watch?v=T7NYfxoVItk#t=430 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7NYfxoVItk#t=430)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on December 01, 2014, 02:54:36 pm
Is the 9thNY uniform available for download and what class dose it change out ?
There is a reason the uniform was not made instantly available. It's for the 9thNY and the 9thNY only. No thieving Confeds shale lay their hands on them!

Bravescot.. just watch this for 2 minutes.. thats how the war ended  8) ;D

youtube.com/watch?v=T7NYfxoVItk#t=430 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7NYfxoVItk#t=430)
My god! Everything I knew was a lie!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on December 02, 2014, 04:44:04 pm
Updated Monocacy Junction

(https://i.imgur.com/rNibius.jpg)


Updated "Hungarian" Plains

(https://i.imgur.com/HDxXlp6.jpg)


Updated "French" Farm

(https://i.imgur.com/9vPeNoB.jpg)


Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on December 03, 2014, 02:56:25 am
Looking great so far Parrot!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 03, 2014, 08:40:33 am
And that graphics make it looks much better!
Thx Parrot and team for the work ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 03, 2014, 10:47:45 am
Splendid scenes, Parrot. Splendid indeed.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on December 03, 2014, 01:43:27 pm
Very Wondrous
Such texture
Much wow
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Leghorn94 on December 05, 2014, 05:09:37 pm
Yeah! nice screenshots as always!

Keep on the good work!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 05, 2014, 11:43:11 pm
Shit, Incognito how did you got this update before anyone else?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 06, 2014, 01:50:43 am
Close to release?

It's December
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 06, 2014, 03:40:54 pm
Shit, Incognito how did you got this update before anyone else?

He didn't its a screenshot Hinkel showed to our regiment
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 06, 2014, 05:01:18 pm
Shit, Incognito how did you got this update before anyone else?

He didn't its a screenshot Hinkel showed to our regiment

Considering the fact that the 26th North Carolina is for most of the people the biggest regiment ( a lot of guys joined this regiment, like me; some got out to other regiments like me, other created other regiments in the Dixieland Army or outside it ) , their officers might receive the news first directly from Mr.Hinkel. Ain't I right ? But at least Icognito shared this screenshot for everyone who is crazy like me too play the mod with v 1.0 update
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 06, 2014, 07:51:16 pm
Nicolas, the whole regiment got shown this, not just the officers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on December 06, 2014, 08:09:37 pm
I believe the 26th NC at last count had 219 members. (This is of course the last audit they did sometime ago).

Currently the 26th SC merged back into the 26th NC due to Dukey now having to work nights (I do feel for him... especially with that company!) so I dunno how many they have now  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on December 07, 2014, 09:51:41 am
Close to release?

It's December
^ 1+
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 08, 2014, 12:35:22 am
Close to release?

It's December
^ 1+
+2 my friend
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on December 08, 2014, 12:39:57 am
Example Bump, progress is looking great!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 08, 2014, 09:39:03 am
Maybe more screenshots? :P

Edited ¬¬
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 08, 2014, 10:45:15 am
Screenshoots? Haha! But I agree, more pictures?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on December 08, 2014, 04:28:33 pm
http://youtu.be/fO6V0MB7Ljo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on December 08, 2014, 05:22:46 pm
Looks great, although this has bugged me to the end of time in N&S.
Can we please have the spacing corrected in 'U.S.Artillery' ?  :P

And those hats I am guessing cover hair on accident or something.

But nice video as preview. We could use more videos for mod promotion.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 08, 2014, 05:29:24 pm
I like them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on December 08, 2014, 05:34:20 pm
Morks made it, not me
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Museal on December 08, 2014, 05:47:53 pm
looks good  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 08, 2014, 07:32:30 pm
Thx! It will look more better with the graphic enhancer! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 09, 2014, 10:42:05 am
I would recommend Chads new video, if you want to see some uniforms in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XFeKZ6_Ss
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 09, 2014, 11:09:35 am
Has the rank system been done yet?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 09, 2014, 11:13:37 am
No.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on December 09, 2014, 11:32:57 am
Is the Swiss Officer already been done? :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 09, 2014, 01:51:15 pm
But, the ranks system is a theory or you are working on it?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 12, 2014, 04:50:11 am
I made this tonight

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/TkntTyS.png)
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:^)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 12, 2014, 06:24:48 am
I made this tonight

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/TkntTyS.png)
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:^)

Nice Sergeant Jacket
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 12, 2014, 06:25:33 am
Marks, this jacket is for the first confederate regiment shown on unit selecit alright?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 12, 2014, 06:47:35 am
Marks, this jacket is for the first confederate regiment shown on unit selecit alright?

It's an edit of the 4thAL Sgt ye. I've added some dirt but the M&B engine sucks for detail :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on December 12, 2014, 11:20:37 pm
I made this tonight

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/TkntTyS.png)
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:^)

Thats really good. I like that a lot.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 12, 2014, 11:41:56 pm
Marks, this jacket is for the first confederate regiment shown on unit selecit alright?

It's an edit of the 4thAL Sgt ye. I've added some dirt but the M&B engine sucks for detail :'(

Shit man, on the v0.5 the Alabama Guys were grey jackets or white shirts not this brown jacket. I know that the confederate dyes were poor, that's why some grey clothes of them started to turn brown
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 13, 2014, 12:44:25 am
I made this tonight

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/TkntTyS.png)
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:^)

Thats really good. I like that a lot.

:^)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on December 13, 2014, 04:20:57 pm
Anyone have 0.5 full client link? Moddb doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 16, 2014, 03:47:58 pm
I just marked some of the reworked union uniforms, which are waiting in the editor since a while. Looks pretty cool :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141216%2F2oycuuov.jpg&hash=7127d0adbd51904621c59afed3f6a9741bbfbeaa)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on December 16, 2014, 04:25:55 pm
Those look amazing  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on December 16, 2014, 07:04:15 pm
Awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Andrew on December 16, 2014, 07:07:14 pm
Looks great!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 16, 2014, 08:27:06 pm
I love them!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 16, 2014, 11:42:47 pm
I just marked some of the reworked union uniforms, which are waiting in the editor since a while. Looks pretty cool :)

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141216%2F2oycuuov.jpg&hash=7127d0adbd51904621c59afed3f6a9741bbfbeaa)
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I still rather Gandalf the Grey ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 17, 2014, 11:54:30 am
Confederate counterpart:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141217%2Ff83dnte8.jpg&hash=61b27a5707ceeecf83ba4b445b4771eb33ed33ec)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 17, 2014, 09:33:09 pm
Thanks for the preview Hinkel, can't wait for next week.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 18, 2014, 05:29:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO6V0MB7Ljo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on December 18, 2014, 06:53:08 am
Thanks for the preview Hinkel, can't wait for next week.
Next week?  :o Is the new version going to released then?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 18, 2014, 10:21:32 am
Am I pretty Edward?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 18, 2014, 06:40:11 pm
Confederate counterpart:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141217%2Ff83dnte8.jpg&hash=61b27a5707ceeecf83ba4b445b4771eb33ed33ec)

HORRY SHET, it's fucking outstanding, specially the 11th Mississippi Ranker Uniform
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 19, 2014, 01:45:01 am
Am I pretty Edward?

Marks let out pass differences be forgotten, bb.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on December 19, 2014, 09:06:26 am
parrot, get in the mood to do stuff for this mod. please.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on December 19, 2014, 10:12:27 am
parrot, get in the mood to do stuff for this mod. please.

Many stuffs have been done for this mod... so much stuffs
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 10:31:07 am
Beside that, I am still waiting for the balancing / troop stat suggestion of a guy called "Dithon1", who said stuff like:

Quote
Well, that's because Hinkel went crazy and decided to give them the crossbow skill of Skirmishers whilst keeping their superior (145)polearm skill.

Quote
Tl;DR Hinkel's gone crazy, and there's no reason to play as anything but the two Foot Guard classes if you're infantry.


There will be NO patch, without troop stat suggestions by him, or by the main armies. I don't want to be blamed again, for choosing crazy stats...

So, if you want to get the patch out faster, do some pressure on your Army leaders to make a conference about the Stats. Those stats have to be signed by ALL leaders.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 01:06:37 pm
2 small preview - screenshots of the new North and South look :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141219%2F9dwnqzgr.jpg&hash=233723163249179d409149659cad0cd946fa5e14)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141219%2Femc83ebz.jpg&hash=2dedaaaa068c21d7452f790b04aac4b94a7df69a)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 19, 2014, 01:10:48 pm
Come on leaders! Start working on the stats! :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Freeman(Campbell) on December 19, 2014, 01:21:48 pm
Hinkel & Me To Op running across a Bridge with a Flag in our hands :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on December 19, 2014, 01:23:44 pm
Pwease, when is rewease dejt?  ;_; The environments look amazing!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on December 19, 2014, 01:52:52 pm
Come on leaders! Start working on the stats! :P

You don't want me to force Hinkel to let me ruin the troop stats as well...



And for those of you thinking "will the mod look like that when I run it on my toaster?", here's a comparison of high and low graphics...
On a performance note, all the left over NW stuff has been removed (meshes, textures, etc) so Warband won't load up any unnecessary stuff into memory when N&S is launched.

High/Ultra | FPS = 43-45
(https://i.imgur.com/y6yNBCW.jpg)
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Low | FPS = 60
(https://i.imgur.com/Tb3qP9Y.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hammerstout on December 19, 2014, 02:00:34 pm
Have the lod issues been fixed?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 02:06:59 pm
Have the lod issues been fixed?

What lod issue?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hammerstout on December 19, 2014, 02:23:52 pm
Uniforms are see through at range. Just me?. I've re downloaded several times in the past and it's a recurring problem.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 02:36:23 pm
Uniforms are see through at range. Just me?. I've re downloaded several times in the past and it's a recurring problem.

Thats fixed. If you watch the last 2 line battle videos of Chadman, you see there are no LOD problems any more :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XFeKZ6_Ss
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 19, 2014, 04:54:55 pm
Come on leaders! Start working on the stats! :P

It shouldn't be "Start working on the stats!", it should be "Stat working on the stats!"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 05:31:51 pm
Stat working on the stats!"

"Studs working on the stats" :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 19, 2014, 06:31:39 pm
Come on leaders! Start working on the stats! :P
Agreed, the preservation of the union depends on it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 19, 2014, 07:46:22 pm
Come on leaders! Start working on the stats! :P
Agreed, the preservation of the union depends on it.

The Union shall fall! Long live the Confederacy!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 07:49:08 pm
Another set of pictures.. the most famous line battle map - Manassas, in the new look:

(https://i.imgur.com/NR8vlq9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mVyeeis.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vfSDpYQ.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 19, 2014, 08:13:34 pm
Another set of pictures.. the most famous line battle map - Manassas, in the new look:

(https://i.imgur.com/NR8vlq9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mVyeeis.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vfSDpYQ.jpg)

Its like a whole new map! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Crescent Glow on December 19, 2014, 08:14:42 pm
Code
[spoiler] [/spoiler]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Olafson on December 19, 2014, 08:27:35 pm
Please, by the love of god fix those transparent tree leaves.

Also... Please make the grass and flora a bit brighter. Everything is extremly fucking dark.

Reality:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.encyclopediavirginia.org%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F05%2FHenryHillHouseBullRunVA.jpeg&hash=45593a78797eb071f4c52cad9e3b6f11bbefc5c0)

ITS GREEN! It looks like it is summer!

Yours:
(https://i.imgur.com/mVyeeis.jpg)
ITS DARK GREEN! It looks like it has been raining the past 50 days and the entire battlefield converted into a swamp with very dark saturated grass!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 19, 2014, 08:31:55 pm
Please, by the love of god fix those transparent tree leaves.

Also... Please make the grass and flora a bit brighter. Everything is extremly fucking dark.

Reality:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.encyclopediavirginia.org%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F05%2FHenryHillHouseBullRunVA.jpeg&hash=45593a78797eb071f4c52cad9e3b6f11bbefc5c0)

ITS GREEN! It looks like it is summer!

Yours:
(https://i.imgur.com/mVyeeis.jpg)
ITS DARK GREEN! It looks like it has been raining the past 50 days and the entire battlefield converted into a swamp with very dark saturated grass!

Well if you think about it, a battle has been raging on throughout the day, artillery shells would have been landing, men marching across the fields, I highly doubt it would have been nice and green.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 19, 2014, 08:35:02 pm
Beside that, I am still waiting for the balancing / troop stat suggestion of a guy called "Dithon1", who said stuff like:

Quote
Well, that's because Hinkel went crazy and decided to give them the crossbow skill of Skirmishers whilst keeping their superior (145)polearm skill.

Quote
Tl;DR Hinkel's gone crazy, and there's no reason to play as anything but the two Foot Guard classes if you're infantry.


There will be NO patch, without troop stat suggestions by him, or by the main armies. I don't want to be blamed again, for choosing crazy stats...

So, if you want to get the patch out faster, do some pressure on your Army leaders to make a conference about the Stats. Those stats have to be signed by ALL leaders.

How many Army leaders approximately are remaining to this conference about the Stats?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on December 19, 2014, 08:37:51 pm
Beside that, I am still waiting for the balancing / troop stat suggestion of a guy called "Dithon1", who said stuff like:

Quote
Well, that's because Hinkel went crazy and decided to give them the crossbow skill of Skirmishers whilst keeping their superior (145)polearm skill.

Quote
Tl;DR Hinkel's gone crazy, and there's no reason to play as anything but the two Foot Guard classes if you're infantry.


There will be NO patch, without troop stat suggestions by him, or by the main armies. I don't want to be blamed again, for choosing crazy stats...

So, if you want to get the patch out faster, do some pressure on your Army leaders to make a conference about the Stats. Those stats have to be signed by ALL leaders.

The Dixieland Army has had no formal contact with the Union Army since the leadership of the Union Army changed last. We have no Saturday Linebattle with them either due to actions, and we do not foresee that changing without a huge attitude shift. Especially regarding their lack of following rules and their casual attitude to the "isms" (Racism, Homophobia etc) that was so prevalent during the old administration and the "Organized Rage Quit" that MajGen Sarge used to constantly organize. This is, of course, not mentioning their constant trolling on these forums and trying to bait the DA constantly.
Or to sum up, we have no idea who anyone is in the UA besides Arcturus who has not made any move to speak to us since he got made MajGen/LtGen.

So I do not know what you are expecting, I and the rest of the Dixieland Army High Command have been waiting for you, we have not heard that you was waiting for us or we would have submitted our stat suggestions months ago  :P But I shall have a list ready by Monday for you drawn up by the Dixieland High Command including The New Union Brigade Command Staff.


As for Dithon1, he did infact reply to you on his thread a few months ago:

Soo.. you aren't able to give any new troop stats, which are more balanaced for you?
I am still waiting for your suggestion!

Raise the 11th MS/69th NY's Ironflesh and Power Strike skills to 3, to match the other Line Infantry.


Drop the 33rd VA and US Regulars' Crossbow skill down to 150.


Make one of the units of Cavalry on both factions have Light Dragoon stats, and the other have "standard" Dragoon stats. Make sure to give the appropriate troop the appropriate horse. See my (revised) post about the cavalry to see what's what, if you don't already know.

Cavalry:

Cavalry stats for the Union and Confederates differ. The Union uses the "standard" Dragoon class template from NW, and the CSA uses the Light Dragoon template. Both classes for each faction have the same stats. A new stat to take note of here is "Riding," which adds a (small) bonus to maneuverability, maximum speed, and acceleration while mounted for each point.

Confederate:
  • 1h Weapons: 70
  • Polearms: 30
  • Crossbows: 155
  • Ironflesh: 2
  • Power Strike: 1
  • Athletics: 0
  • Riding: 6

Union:
  • 1h Weapons: 120
  • Polearms: 30
  • Crossbows: 125
  • Ironflesh: 3
  • Power Strike: 3
  • Athletics: 0
  • Riding: 5

One small thing of note is that the Confederate Cavalry NCO's 1h Weapon skill is 80, rather than 70. Probably an oversight.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 19, 2014, 08:44:51 pm
Please, by the love of god fix those transparent tree leaves.
Also... Please make the grass and flora a bit brighter. Everything is extremly fucking dark.

The darker colours are an art style to help set the mood for the civil war. The war wasn't that colorfull, beside that, the warband engine in bright colors would become more of a comic look. Also, N&S isn't a simulation of reality, it's a mod for a game and we like that darker art style :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on December 19, 2014, 08:47:27 pm
By the way, can we get an updated list of what units are definitely going to be in 1.0? (as well as what their main aim is, IE Line/Light/Skirm/etc) then we can make a much better and detailed suggestion.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on December 19, 2014, 08:49:37 pm
By the way, can we get an updated list of what units are definitely going to be in 1.0? (as well as what their main aim is, IE Line/Light/Skirm/etc) then we can make a much better and detailed suggestion.

And weapons too please!  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 19, 2014, 08:58:35 pm
Aside from what I posted months ago, everything else is fine.


Of course, that's all thrown out the window if you're throwing entirely new units types and weapons into the mix. Would be nice to have a list of what you're putting in and what their intended role is supposed to be.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 20, 2014, 12:28:52 am
When the new version is out, I need some regiments to put up an awesome trailer with that music here! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtZE8DEVZs

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141219%2Fspcstwsr.jpg&hash=b27de8ec9f1494de928280e30ad8bceb3855e794)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 20, 2014, 11:51:12 am
I am sure, most of you will hate me for that... but I want to introduce the 2nd Maine Infantry. One of the most important union regiments at Manassas.
They were the first on the field and the last regiment, which left the Battlefield.

Like many other union regiments, the 2nd Maine showed up in their fancy pre-war uniform.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141220%2Faprzcyk5.jpg&hash=4e8a55fc09aefe4d75d9249e6ded28e129922503)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on December 20, 2014, 12:45:41 pm
I am sure, most of you will hate me for that... but I want to introduce the 2nd Maine Infantry. One of the most important union regiments at Manassas.
They were the first on the field and the last regiment, which left the Battlefield.

Like many other union regiment, the 2nd Maine showed up in their fancy pre-war uniform.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141220%2Faprzcyk5.jpg&hash=4e8a55fc09aefe4d75d9249e6ded28e129922503)
Those CSA-Monkeys wont suspect a thing!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on December 20, 2014, 01:22:47 pm
Coming out soon!

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN-n-5bqBWM
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on December 20, 2014, 02:06:38 pm
Uh, wut? :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 20, 2014, 02:40:36 pm
@ Lucas and Co

Here is the public Unit List for the moment

Manassas 1.0 Regiment List

Confederate order of battle

Infantry

1st Maryland Battalion - Volunteer Infantry

4th Alabama - Volunteer Infantry

5th North Carolina - Volunteer Infantry

7th Georgia - Volunteer Infantry

11th Mississippi - Light Infantry

1st Louisiana Battalion (Wheat Tigers) - Zouaves

33rd Virginia - Veteran Infantry

Cavalry

1st Virginia Cavalry - Light Cavalry

Hampton's Legion - Dragoons

Partisan Rangers - Irregulars


Union order of battle

Infantry

1st Minnesota - Volunteer Infantry
 
69th New York - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Rhode Island - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Wisconsin - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Maine - Light Infantry

11th New York - Zouaves

United States Infantry Battalion - Regular Infantry

Cavalry

1st U.S. Cavalry - Light Cavalry

2nd U.S. Dragoons - Dragoons

6th Pennsylvania  - Lancers
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on December 20, 2014, 03:28:14 pm
Spoiler
@ Lucas and Co

Here is the public Unit List for the moment

Manassas 1.0 Regiment List

Confederate order of battle

Infantry

1st Maryland Battalion - Volunteer Infantry

4th Alabama - Volunteer Infantry

5th North Carolina - Volunteer Infantry

7th Georgia - Volunteer Infantry

11th Mississippi - Light Infantry

1st Louisiana Battalion (Wheat Tigers) - Zouaves

33rd Virginia - Veteran Infantry

Cavalry

1st Virginia Cavalry - Light Cavalry

Hampton's Legion - Dragoons

Partisan Rangers - Irregulars


Union order of battle

Infantry

1st Minnesota - Volunteer Infantry
 
69th New York - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Rhode Island - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Wisconsin - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Maine - Light Infantry

11th New York - Zouaves

United States Infantry Battalion - Regular Infantry

Cavalry

1st U.S. Cavalry - Light Cavalry

2nd U.S. Dragoons - Dragoons

6th Pennsylvania  - Lancers
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You left out the marines :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 20, 2014, 08:31:47 pm
Coming out soon!

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN-n-5bqBWM
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Noice
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 20, 2014, 10:39:24 pm
@ Lucas and Co

Here is the public Unit List for the moment

Manassas 1.0 Regiment List

Confederate order of battle

Infantry

1st Maryland Battalion - Volunteer Infantry

4th Alabama - Volunteer Infantry

5th North Carolina - Volunteer Infantry

7th Georgia - Volunteer Infantry

11th Mississippi - Light Infantry

1st Louisiana Battalion (Wheat Tigers) - Zouaves

33rd Virginia - Veteran Infantry

Cavalry

1st Virginia Cavalry - Light Cavalry

Hampton's Legion - Dragoons

Partisan Rangers - Irregulars


Union order of battle

Infantry

1st Minnesota - Volunteer Infantry
 
69th New York - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Rhode Island - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Wisconsin - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Maine - Light Infantry

11th New York - Zouaves

United States Infantry Battalion - Regular Infantry

Cavalry

1st U.S. Cavalry - Light Cavalry

2nd U.S. Dragoons - Dragoons

6th Pennsylvania  - Lancers

Sounds good, provided the unit type means they'll have the stats I think they'll have. One Light Inf, Zouave (skirm), and Veteran (Guard) unit for each side is fair and balanced, provided that one is as capable as the other.

So, what about weapons? Springfield 1842s or everyone? Or will some Union units get the 1855, which actually sucked balls IRL because it had the really unreliable tape primer system?

Are cavalry units still going to be equipped with the breech-loading carbines, or muzzle-loading musketoons like the early versions of NaS? 

And what about sabres? Will it be a choice between the smaller, lighter 1860 and the heavier 1840, or will one class be stuck with one type?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 20, 2014, 11:55:53 pm
Will answer you tomorrow, Dithon! Thank you for your suggestions :)


I have to say, the 1st Minnesota was one of the most interesting regiments at Manassas. Their fancy red shirts, the havelock kepi and the dark trousers, made them nice to look at :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141220%2Fmslqlqz4.jpg&hash=e9c6e4f9b1404753c33be37a3f8617a81bc38fd7)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Andrew on December 20, 2014, 11:56:28 pm
they are beautiful :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on December 21, 2014, 02:00:05 am
The blue & grey uniforms have blurred the lines of regular identity on the field if a unit is U.S. or C.S.
... I like it  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on December 21, 2014, 03:09:31 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZSUQ34sX0
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 21, 2014, 07:14:40 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZSUQ34sX0
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I got 2 question for you based on my conclusion after watching this video:

1- How did you got this v1.0 models before everyone else ?
2- Will be there on v1.0 historical characters like Robert E. Lee like shown on this video?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 21, 2014, 07:20:38 am
@ Lucas and Co

Here is the public Unit List for the moment

Manassas 1.0 Regiment List

Confederate order of battle

Infantry

1st Maryland Battalion - Volunteer Infantry

4th Alabama - Volunteer Infantry

5th North Carolina - Volunteer Infantry

7th Georgia - Volunteer Infantry

11th Mississippi - Light Infantry

1st Louisiana Battalion (Wheat Tigers) - Zouaves

33rd Virginia - Veteran Infantry

Cavalry

1st Virginia Cavalry - Light Cavalry

Hampton's Legion - Dragoons

Partisan Rangers - Irregulars


Union order of battle

Infantry

1st Minnesota - Volunteer Infantry
 
69th New York - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Rhode Island - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Wisconsin - Volunteer Infantry

2nd Maine - Light Infantry

11th New York - Zouaves

United States Infantry Battalion - Regular Infantry

Cavalry

1st U.S. Cavalry - Light Cavalry

2nd U.S. Dragoons - Dragoons

6th Pennsylvania  - Lancers

I tought the 11th Mississippi was Volunteer Infantry
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 21, 2014, 08:32:05 am

I tought the 11th Mississippi was Volunteer Infantry

Presumably changed to Light Inf so that the Confederates have a unit with Grenzer stats, not just the Union.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 21, 2014, 09:18:36 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZSUQ34sX0
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I got 2 question for you based on my conclusion after watching this video:

1- How did you got this v1.0 models before everyone else ?
2- Will be there on v1.0 historical characters like Robert E. Lee like shown on this video?

Don't worry quiet a few people have it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 21, 2014, 10:42:05 am

I tought the 11th Mississippi was Volunteer Infantry

Presumably changed to Light Inf so that the Confederates have a unit with Grenzer stats, not just the Union.

Historically Incorrect i guess, anyway i would not put  light infantry unit stat to the 11thMississippi. Maybe to the 26th North Carolina, also when i was in their regiment, their tactics were to do like 1 or 2 men spacing on their firing lines.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on December 21, 2014, 10:45:02 am
I have a question, is there a way that we can have more randomized uniforms? I just love how the first regiment in CS (can't remember reg's name) wears different civillianish clothes.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 21, 2014, 10:47:03 am
I have a question, is there a way that we can have more randomized uniforms? I just love how the first regiment in CS (can't remember reg's name) wears different civillianish clothes.

I wish there could be a way to chose your own clothes not just your equipment ( choosing your musket )
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 21, 2014, 11:11:22 am
Some units will have more Privates to choose. While the 33rd Virginia for example consists of the Emerald Guards (in blue), they also have access to another company, which consists of VMI cadets:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141221%2Fp38qcsai.jpg&hash=d0d0ba690ef46cee41150daecc76c16bed948804)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 21, 2014, 03:20:57 pm
I think 3rdArk would be better imo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nj299 on December 21, 2014, 06:46:55 pm
This is really looking good so far, I need a game like this.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 21, 2014, 07:02:01 pm
FINNALY THE VMI CADETS!!! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on December 21, 2014, 08:43:38 pm
You're adding in the VMI cadets? That's awesome. Can't wait to use them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 21, 2014, 09:27:30 pm
So, what can we do here?

The Springfield 1842 for the confederacy and the new Harpers Ferry Rifle M55 for the Union.
As you notice, the Springfield was about 20cm longer then the Harpers Ferry.

Does that mean, the confederate rifle will have a longer range in melee?  ::)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141221%2Fywd759dx.jpg&hash=22daf0e0e4c30f202ef018ed7e2d6f14f0f9f830)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 21, 2014, 09:33:40 pm
Spoiler
So, what can we do here?

The Springfield 1842 for the confederacy and the new Harpers Ferry Rifle M55 for the Union.
As you notice, the Springfield was about 20cm longer then the Harpers Ferry.

Does that mean, the confederate rifle will have a longer range in melee?  ::)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141221%2Fywd759dx.jpg&hash=22daf0e0e4c30f202ef018ed7e2d6f14f0f9f830)
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we have a problem here :S
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 21, 2014, 09:34:36 pm
rip balance
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 21, 2014, 09:37:34 pm
rip balance

Well no..

Springfield 1842

+ Long Range melee
- Not that good accuracy

Harpers Ferry Rifle

+ Better accuracy
- Range penelty in melee
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on December 21, 2014, 09:51:02 pm
Perhaps a feature where rebel yelling gives a running speed bonus?  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 22, 2014, 12:11:45 am
rip balance

Well no..

Springfield 1842

+ Long Range melee
- Not that good accuracy

Harpers Ferry Rifle

+ Better accuracy
- Range penelty in melee

I like to get up and close
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 12:14:12 am
So, what can we do here?

The Springfield 1842 for the confederacy and the new Harpers Ferry Rifle M55 for the Union.
As you notice, the Springfield was about 20cm longer then the Harpers Ferry.

Does that mean, the confederate rifle will have a longer range in melee?  ::)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141221%2Fywd759dx.jpg&hash=22daf0e0e4c30f202ef018ed7e2d6f14f0f9f830)

That's actually the carbine version of the Harper's Ferry 1855.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.liveauctiongroup.net%2Fi%2F8690%2F9966404_1.jpg%3Fv%3D8CD4A3E4AA47E70&hash=e91c7e860e822e84d05379136cff89c7b722664b)

This is the full-length version. Rare find today; worth lots of money. It used the Maynard Tape Primer system like the Springfield 1855.


Interesting idea, balance-wise. I'd almost like to have an option for both sides to have a more accurate but shorter rifled musket. Maybe give the Confederates an Enfield carbine  (or alternative; I don't think any Enfield carbines existed until 1858/1861, and the 1858s were never imported in large numbers) with the same stats as the Union's Harper's Ferry rifle. The Union would also get the Springfield 1842, obviously.

Give people the option to play how they'd like to play, regardless of what color uniform they're forced to wear. You'll get less grumbling about balance that way.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 22, 2014, 12:27:31 am
That's actually the carbine version of the Harper's Ferry 1855.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.liveauctiongroup.net%2Fi%2F8690%2F9966404_1.jpg%3Fv%3D8CD4A3E4AA47E70&hash=e91c7e860e822e84d05379136cff89c7b722664b)

This is the full-length version. Rare find today; worth lots of money. It used the Maynard Tape Primer system like the Springfield 1855.

Interesting idea, balance-wise. I'd almost like to have an option for both sides to have a more accurate but shorter rifled musket. Maybe give the Confederates an Enfield carbine with the same stats as the Union's Harper's Ferry rifle. The Union would also get the Springfield 1842, obviously.

The Union Army was issued with 2-band 1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles, like I showed in the picture.
Its not a carbine like you said, its a fully rifled musket. That was the standard US rifle in 1861.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F19thcenturyweapons.com%2F911%2Flong%2Fpix%2F55r.jpg&hash=6b7cc992297cc85d54cdeb1fa43a28a46aef6bc4)

Balanced-wise, I would assign the Mississippi Rifle as a second option to most confederate units, which is more accurate, but without a bayonet.

But to be honest, I would like to assign the historic rifle to each regiment, without any options. But that might get people angry  :-\

Edit:
Nevermind... there were indeed 2-band and 3-band rifles of the Harpers Ferry.
I was a bit confused, cause on 2 historic pictures of soldiers before the battle, both had the 2-band rifle with them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 12:49:24 am
The Union Army was issued with 2-band 1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles, like I showed in the picture.
Its not a carbine like you said, its a fully rifled musket. That was the standard US rifle in 1861.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F19thcenturyweapons.com%2F911%2Flong%2Fpix%2F55r.jpg&hash=6b7cc992297cc85d54cdeb1fa43a28a46aef6bc4)

Balanced-wise, I would assign the Mississippi Rifle as a second option to most confederate units, which is more accurate, but without a bayonet.

But to be honest, I would like to assign the historic rifle to each regiment, without any options. But that might get people angry  :-\

Edit:
Nevermind... there were indeed 2-band and 3-band rifles of the Harpers Ferry.
I was a bit confused, cause on 2 historic pictures of soldiers before the battle, both had the 2-band rifle with them.

Or give the Mississippi Rifle the option to attach a sword bayonet, like they had.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi530.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd346%2Fdrm2m%2FArtillery-Soldier-001.jpg&hash=db7adc1761907d0ada2dba3448efcaf82ac06d1e)

EDIT: Maybe make them a bit slower in melee because of the added weight of a sword bayonet vs a spike bayonet to make up for how long they are.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 22, 2014, 01:08:46 am
Wouldn't it be more interesting to have 2 different rifles, which have different pro's / con's?
If the Mississippi also has a bayonet, it would be boring.

So the player can decide: Do I need good accuracy, but less melee.. or do I need a bayonet, but with bad accuracy?

Here is the picture of the 2-band Harpers Ferry, of the 11th New York Infantry

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141222%2F39nmxs35.jpg&hash=f063cc2d9906900734765f70a134d55b97a578ba)

(https://i.imgur.com/pIXHk.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 01:20:02 am
Wouldn't it be more interesting to have 2 different rifles, which have different pro's / con's?
If the Mississippi also has a bayonet, it would be boring.

So the player can decide: Do I need good accuracy, but less melee.. or do I need a bayonet, but with bad accuracy?

Here is the picture of the 2-band Harpers Ferry, of the 11th New York Infantry

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141222%2F39nmxs35.jpg&hash=f063cc2d9906900734765f70a134d55b97a578ba)

(https://i.imgur.com/pIXHk.png)

Now you've gone and lost me.

From what you've told me so far:

The Union's infantry regiments will be equipped with ONLY the Harper's Ferry 1855 carbine. It will be more accurate, but it's overall length will be short. It will have a bayonet.

The Confederates will have a choice between the Springfield 1842, which is longer but less accurate, and the Mississippi Rifle, which is more accurate but has no bayonet.

Is this correct?

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on December 22, 2014, 01:27:06 am
And what with the melee speed? Confederate 42 rifles are way slower then the union 55 in the current N&S
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 22, 2014, 01:30:14 am
No... :)
We have 2 different ideas, how we could arrange it.

1) Both would have 2 rifles to choose, one accurate rifle with minor melee ability (no bayonet), or a more inaccurate rifle, but with bayonet.

2) 1 historical rifle for each class (like springfield 42 for the south, harpers ferry for the north), but both would have different stats. Like CS rifles better in melee, US rifles better in accuracy.

I want a difference in each army.. It would be boring, if both factions are the same.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 01:41:51 am
No... :)
We have 2 different ideas, how we could arrange it.

1) Both would have 2 rifles to choose, one accurate rifle with minor melee ability (no bayonet), or a more inaccurate rifle, but with bayonet.

2) 1 historical rifle for each class (like springfield 42 for the south, harpers ferry for the north), but both would have different stats. Like CS rifles better in melee, US rifles better in accuracy.

I want a difference in each army.. It would be boring, if both factions are the same.

So is the Harper's Ferry rifle going to have a bayonet or not?

What weapons are you looking to equip both factions with? Which unit types will get which specific weapons?

And what with the melee speed? Confederate 42 rifles are way slower then the union 55 in the current N&S

This is true. The 1842 (bayoneted) has a speed of 70. The 1855 (bayoneted) has a speed of 85.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 22, 2014, 04:02:52 am
No... :)
We have 2 different ideas, how we could arrange it.

1) Both would have 2 rifles to choose, one accurate rifle with minor melee ability (no bayonet), or a more inaccurate rifle, but with bayonet.

2) 1 historical rifle for each class (like springfield 42 for the south, harpers ferry for the north), but both would have different stats. Like CS rifles better in melee, US rifles better in accuracy.

I want a difference in each army.. It would be boring, if both factions are the same.

Why don't you just simply add the sword bayonet to the Mississippi Rifle? First of all, could you do like they do in Iron Europe? There you can can both fix your bayonet, which is in occupying a slot in your inventory or simply use it alone if you wish. Also, it would be more historically accurate and nice to have sword bayonets ingame.

Images:
http://relicman.com/weapons/imageweapon/W1221A.JPG
http://relicman.com/weapons/imageweapon/W1008J.JPG
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 06:12:35 am
No... :)
We have 2 different ideas, how we could arrange it.

1) Both would have 2 rifles to choose, one accurate rifle with minor melee ability (no bayonet), or a more inaccurate rifle, but with bayonet.

2) 1 historical rifle for each class (like springfield 42 for the south, harpers ferry for the north), but both would have different stats. Like CS rifles better in melee, US rifles better in accuracy.

I want a difference in each army.. It would be boring, if both factions are the same.

Why don't you just simply add the sword bayonet to the Mississippi Rifle? First of all, could you do like they do in Iron Europe? There you can can both fix your bayonet, which is in occupying a slot in your inventory or simply use it alone if you wish. Also, it would be more historically accurate and nice to have sword bayonets ingame.

Images:
http://relicman.com/weapons/imageweapon/W1221A.JPG
http://relicman.com/weapons/imageweapon/W1008J.JPG

Same for the Lorenz Rifle and Enfield 1853. Those you wouldn't even have to get new models for - just re-use the spike bayonet you already have.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on December 22, 2014, 06:52:42 am
I think you guys are missing his point. If every gun had Bayonets melee would get rather stale, so to spice things up some units will have to weight their options on which gun to take. While to some it may seem unfair its adding flavor and making command decision matter, unlike in NW where all guns are standard. AT some point historical accuracy needs to take a back seat to game play and realistically if all guns had bayonets the choice between rifles would become less important. Its those difficult choices that can make the game more fun, like to I want a lower accuracy higher damage Burnside or a more accurate but survivable sharps carbine. Without choices like these whats to keep this game from being an accuracy boost to NW?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 08:23:15 am
Without choices like these whats to keep this game from being an accuracy boost to NW?
If every gun had Bayonets melee would get rather stale, so to spice things up some units will have to weight their options on which gun to take.

This choice is already in NW in the same form as it is currently in NaS. I hate it in NW, and I hate it in NaS. Why is there a "sword bayonet" for my Baker Rifle on my belt if I can't use it as a bayonet? Those Hussars are closing fast; If I were an actual British Rifleman in 1810 I'd fix my sword bayonet, but I guess it's time to prepare my anus.

AT some point historical accuracy needs to take a back seat to game play and realistically if all guns had bayonets the choice between rifles would become less important.

If you make three tools all designed for the same job, but one of them is better at it in every way than the rest, what real choice is there?

Its those difficult choices that can make the game more fun, like to I want a lower accuracy higher damage Burnside or a more accurate but survivable sharps carbine.

This is somewhat inaccurate. On paper, all three carbines do the same damage. There are only two differences between them at this point: Their accuracy, and the velocity of the bullet they shoot. Whether projectiles are actually subject to damage bonuses from said velocity like melee attacks are is unclear (to me, at least). The least accurate gun (Burns) shoots the fastest bullet. The most accurate (Sharps) shoots the slowest bullet. What I have noticed is that I'll often hit more targets with the more inaccurate gun because of its increased projectile speed. I don't have to lead as much over longer distances, you see.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dithon1 on December 22, 2014, 08:25:01 am
This forum is stupid. Why is there no delete post button?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 22, 2014, 04:41:51 pm
I am sure, most of you will hate me for that... but I want to introduce the 2nd Maine Infantry. One of the most important union regiments at Manassas.
They were the first on the field and the last regiment, which left the Battlefield.

Like many other union regiment, the 2nd Maine showed up in their fancy pre-war uniform.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141220%2Faprzcyk5.jpg&hash=4e8a55fc09aefe4d75d9249e6ded28e129922503)
Those CSA-Monkeys wont suspect a thing!

All I need to see as a skirmisher, is their shiny Springfield, soon to be mine ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on December 22, 2014, 11:26:21 pm
All I want is something that I can go bang and pew with and something I can do some stabby goodness with.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 23, 2014, 12:42:00 am
Watching, The Red Badge of Courage makes me wanna play this version of the mod so much!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 24, 2014, 10:50:54 am
Made a small test, so you get a view on a 3D model, not just a screenshot.

Just click on the picture.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141224%2Ffzno8iih.jpg&hash=b53a184dee6d89158a3adc1b536a39a8a5c6a50d) (https://p3d.in/nnbRz)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 24, 2014, 10:58:38 am
I like the trousers
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on December 24, 2014, 06:33:26 pm
I really like that uniform
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 24, 2014, 06:50:00 pm
I really like that uniform

To be honest, it was not really an uniform. The 1st Minnesota had regular sack coats at Manassas, but due to the heat that day, many soldiers took of their jackets and just wear their shirt :)
This picture was nearly for every unit at the Battle.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthisweekinthecivilwar.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F07%2F1st-mn-at-bull-run-2011.jpg&hash=55e833684cd1d1a96b73a865cebf6d79f71beb38)

I love that reenactment picture:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.1stminnd.org%2FImages%2F1stmanassas.jpg&hash=f152045b4160c8c697a993e7332ecef4d55b706b)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 24, 2014, 07:04:14 pm
They may have different uniforms, but boy do they sure look nice.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on December 24, 2014, 08:58:50 pm
Quote
This choice is already in NW in the same form as it is currently in NaS. I hate it in NW, and I hate it in NaS. Why is there a "sword bayonet" for my Baker Rifle on my belt if I can't use it as a bayonet? Those Hussars are closing fast; If I were an actual British Rifleman in 1810 I'd fix my sword bayonet, but I guess it's time to prepare my anus.
What fun would the game be if every unit had a bayonet but some guns were more accurate? You have always argued for game play before accuracy Dithon, tell me how that is fair?

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If you make three tools all designed for the same job, but one of them is better at it in every way than the rest, what real choice is there?
Look in North and South and you will find 4 common swords (there are more but they are rarely seen) the 1860 saber, 1840 saber, 1850 staff sword, and the NCO sword. Which one is better? Is it the fast 1860, the long and hard hitting 1840, the long and powerful 1850 or the short and swift NCO. All swords yes, all designed to kill people, but all designed in different contexts, the same holds true for the variety of swords in NW. You wont realisticly find something that is better in every possible way because then nobody would use anything different, considering both rifled muskets and rifles were used in the Civil War speaks to the point that there was no one perfect solution.

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This is somewhat inaccurate. On paper, all three carbines do the same damage. There are only two differences between them at this point: Their accuracy, and the velocity of the bullet they shoot. Whether projectiles are actually subject to damage bonuses from said velocity like melee attacks are is unclear (to me, at least). The least accurate gun (Burns) shoots the fastest bullet. The most accurate (Sharps) shoots the slowest bullet. What I have noticed is that I'll often hit more targets with the more inaccurate gun because of its increased projectile speed. I don't have to lead as much over longer distances, you see.
Dithon I can assure you from a code standpoint and a game play standpoint the Burnside is the least accurate but most powerful carbine. If you don't believe me you can break out the code and see for yourself, or even better look at the nice pretty file provided in the module that spells out the stats in plain English. As for your experience with the Burnside that's more of a personal perspective and if it works for you that is great, however I'm just laying bare the stats.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sasuau on December 24, 2014, 11:35:09 pm
Imo it would be nice to see (more) variety in the mod. I agree with Hinkel that it would get rather stale if both sides were the same. If not faction-wise then at least variety in melee/shooting in different rifles, as there is now, would be nice to see continued.

Also, I am wondering about what will be done with the sharpshooter rifles. In some earlier pictures both the confederate and union sharpshooters had breech loading rifles. Firstly, I understand that people are opposed to the reloading on the move ability and that it can be unbalanced. But will they, being breech loaders, offer a more mobile role to the sharpshooters or will you give them a sniper-like role with high accuracy but slower reload. Historically the sharps rifle (breech loader) where faster to reload than infantry rifles and the sharpshooters could keep up a higher volume of fire. This  source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_United_States_Sharpshooters#Weapons) states that the sharps rifle could be fired 8-10 times a minute (7-6 second reload) and another source, an account of the Berdan Sharpshooters at Gettysburg saying something along these lines: "On a good day a sharpshooter could shoot up to 10 shots a minute" (can try to find the source later), which also falls into the 8-10 range. They were also rather accurate, but I understand that they can't be both accurate and have a quick reload in the mod for balance reasons.

Tbh I wouldn't mind having a sharpshooter rifle with no/very slight accuracy bonus but with a fast reload, which would let us be a mobile skirmishing force instead of relatively immobile snipers. Basically give the sharps carbine to the sharpshooters. Another idea would be to have 2 rifles for the sharpshooters like the infantry have, one which allows us to be mobile, and another more sniper-like one. The same Wikipedia source above claims that the Berdan Sharpshooters also used whitworth rifles which is already used in the mod by the sharpshooters.

The sharpshooters were a hot debate before and there was a hasty solution to it with the 0.5 patch. I hope that in 1.0 there can be a good and well thought out solution to them, as I don't like our current position with the weird long rifles.

/end rant

Merry christmas and good luck with the patch! I hope it will bring lots of pew pew with it.  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on December 24, 2014, 11:52:10 pm
Yes but you dont mind because you arent in a infantry regiment..... My regiment and many other infantry regiments are glad the breechloader is out and i hope we keep it like that.

No merry Christmas cuz we Dutch dont do that :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 24, 2014, 11:58:48 pm
My idea was:

Sniper rifles might be the most accurate weapons, but they have less ammo and they reload 2-3 times longer then a musket. So the Springfield rifle could fire 3 times, while the Sharps Rifle could just shoot 1 time.
But they are more accurate and can change their positions while reloading.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 25, 2014, 12:50:11 am
My idea was:

Sniper rifles might be the most accurate weapons, but they have less ammo and they reload 2-3 times longer then a musket. So the Springfield rifle could fire 3 times, while the Sharps Rifle could just shoot 1 time.
But they are more accurate and can change their positions while reloading.

I know this isn't really historically accurate, but, I think you should remove the reload on the move feature.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Museal on December 25, 2014, 01:06:17 am
I think that a slow reload with a accurate rifle with no reload on the move gives the skirmishers a decent role as with the fact that all infantry receive rifles and can as a result act as a skerm it makes sense to give them a role of a long range "sniper" which infantry can not fill normally
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on December 25, 2014, 03:41:33 am
I think that a slow reload with a accurate rifle with no reload on the move gives the skirmishers a decent role as with the fact that all infantry receive rifles and can as a result act as a skerm it makes sense to give them a role of a long range "sniper" which infantry can not fill normally

There is already a sharpshooter :).
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 25, 2014, 09:13:41 am
Made a small test, so you get a view on a 3D model, not just a screenshot.

Just click on the picture.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141224%2Ffzno8iih.jpg&hash=b53a184dee6d89158a3adc1b536a39a8a5c6a50d) (https://p3d.in/nnbRz)

One good think i spotted on this model Mr.Hinkel, the leg/trouser is not skinny like before
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 25, 2014, 09:41:46 am

One good think i spotted on this model Mr.Hinkel, the leg/trouser is not skinny like before

Thats not the only good thing :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on December 25, 2014, 09:37:20 pm
Reloading on the move is why we almost banned Sharpshooters completely from all Linebattles, its only because MajGen Wolf instead told us that the UA Sharps had instead suggested that a simple No Reload on the Move rule would suffice that we let them carry on. However problems naturally arose due to rulebreaking.

Most simple way:

Sharpshooters 1st Choice Weapon - Very Good Accuracy, can not reload on the move and takes slightly longer than a musket to reload (2-3 times longer).
2nd Choice Weapon - Good Accuracy, can not reload on the move, takes just a tad longer than a normal musket to reload (1.5 times longer).
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nj299 on December 25, 2014, 11:40:54 pm
Between the two fine pieces of weaponry, the Springfield M1842, and the Harpers Ferry M55, I believe it was... Why exactely are the confederates not implemented with a Enfield Pattern 1853?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 25, 2014, 11:46:35 pm
Between the two fine pieces of weaponry, the Springfield M1842, and the Harpers Ferry M55, I believe it was... Why exactely are the confederates not implemented with a Enfield Pattern 1853?

Cause nobody in the confederate army used an Enfield Rifle at Manassas.
There was one regiment, which was equiped with the Enfield.. the 14th Brooklyn :)

The confederates started to use the Enfield in 1862, about 8 months after Manassas.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 25, 2014, 11:59:18 pm
If this is possible for regiments for the Confederates, you know like the swords are mixed between two for some classes? I was thinking you could do the same with a Springfield 42, and a Springfield 55 for the Confeds, because the Confederates did capture 55's from the Union dead.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 26, 2014, 12:15:26 am
If this is possible for regiments for the Confederates, you know like the swords are mixed between two for some classes? I was thinking you could do the same with a Springfield 42, and a Springfield 55 for the Confeds, because the Confederates did capture 55's from the Union dead.

Well basicly, the Harpers Ferry Rifle 55 and Springfield Rifle 55 are basicly the same rifles. The production place was the only difference. But at Manassas, nearly no confederate regiment had the new 1855 model rifles. So you have to capture them of the battlefield, not within your equipment at spawn :)

At the moment, I am working with this historical WEAPON list:

Spoiler
2nd Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
5th Virginia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
27th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
33rd Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Georgia – US M1842 Muskets.
8th Georgia – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
4th Alabama – US M1842 Muskets.
6th North Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Mississippi – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
11th Mississippi – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Maryland Battalion "Zouave Guards" – US M1841 Mississippi Rifle.
3rd Tennessee "Vaughn's Third" – US M1842 Muskets.
10th Virginia "Warren's" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd Tennessee "Walker's Second" – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
1st Arkansas – US M1842 Muskets
11th North Carolina – US M1822 Muskets.
2nd South Carolina "Palmento Guards" – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
3rd South Carolina – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
7th South Carolina – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
8th South Carolina – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
5th Alabama – Tyler Texas Rifles.
6th Alabama – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
6th Louisiana – US M1842 Muskets.
17th Mississippi "Featherston's" – US M1822 Muskets.
18th Mississippi "Burt's" – US M1822 Muskets.
5th South Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
5th North Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
11th Virginia "Southern Guard" – US M1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles.
17th Virginia "Alexandria Rifles" – US M1842 Muskets.
8th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
18th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
19th Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
28th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
49th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
13th Mississippi "Barksdale's" – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Louisiana – US M1842 Muskets.
7th Virginia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
24th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th South Carolina – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
1st Louisiana Special Battalion "Wheat's Tigers" – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
8th Louisiana – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
Hampton's South Carolina Legion – French Liege Muskets.

Union Units at 1st Bull Run:

2nd Maine – US M1822 Muskets.
1st Connecticut – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Connecticut – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
3rd Connecticut – US M1842 Muskets.
82nd New York "2nd New York Militia" – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
1st Ohio – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Ohio – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
13th New York "Rochester Regiment" – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
69th New York "Meagher's Zouaves" – US M1842 Muskets.
79th New York "Highlanders" – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Wisconsin – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
1st Massachusetts – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
12th New York – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Michigan – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Michigan – US M1822 Muskets.
8th New York Militia "Washington Grays" – US M1842 Muskets.
27th New York "Union Regiment" – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
84th New York "14th Brooklyn" – 1853 British Enfield Rifles.
Sykes' Battalion of U.S. Infantry – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
Battalion of U.S. Marines – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Hampshire – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Rhode Island – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Rhode Island – US M1822 Muskets.
71st New York – French Liege Muskets.
5th Massechusetts Militia – US M1842 Muskets.
11th Massachusetts "Boston Volunteers" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st Minnesota – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
38th New York "2nd Scott's Life Guards" – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Michigan – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
4th Michigan – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Maine – French Liege Muskets.
4th Maine – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
5th Maine – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Vermont – US M1842 Muskets.
1st New Jersey Militia – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Jersey Militia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Militia – US M1842 Muskets.
4th New Jersey Militia – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st New Jersey Volunteers – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd New Jersey Volunteers – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Volunteers – 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
41st New York "2nd Jager Regiment" – US M1842 Muskets.
8th New York – US M1842 Muskets.
29th New York "Astor Rifles" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
39th New York "Garibaldi Guard" – US M1842 Muskets.
27th Pennsylvania – French Liege Muskets.
16th New York – US M1842 Muskets.
18th New York – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
31st New York "Baxter's Light Guard" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
32nd New York – 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on December 26, 2014, 12:24:22 am
If this is possible for regiments for the Confederates, you know like the swords are mixed between two for some classes? I was thinking you could do the same with a Springfield 42, and a Springfield 55 for the Confeds, because the Confederates did capture 55's from the Union dead.

Well basicly, the Harpers Ferry Rifle 55 and Springfield Rifle 55 are basicly the same rifles. The production place was the only difference. But at Manassas, nearly no confederate regiment had the new 1855 model rifles. So you have to capture them of the battlefield, not within your equipment at spawn :)

At the moment, I am working with this historical WEAPON list:

Spoiler
2nd Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
5th Virginia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
27th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
33rd Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Georgia – US M1842 Muskets.
8th Georgia – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
4th Alabama – US M1842 Muskets.
6th North Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Mississippi – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
11th Mississippi – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Maryland Battalion "Zouave Guards" – US M1841 Mississippi Rifle.
3rd Tennessee "Vaughn's Third" – US M1842 Muskets.
10th Virginia "Warren's" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd Tennessee "Walker's Second" – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
1st Arkansas – US M1842 Muskets
11th North Carolina – US M1822 Muskets.
2nd South Carolina "Palmento Guards" – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
3rd South Carolina – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
7th South Carolina – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
8th South Carolina – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
5th Alabama – Tyler Texas Rifles.
6th Alabama – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
6th Louisiana – US M1842 Muskets.
17th Mississippi "Featherston's" – US M1822 Muskets.
18th Mississippi "Burt's" – US M1822 Muskets.
5th South Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
5th North Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
11th Virginia "Southern Guard" – US M1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles.
17th Virginia "Alexandria Rifles" – US M1842 Muskets.
8th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
18th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
19th Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
28th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
49th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
13th Mississippi "Barksdale's" – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Louisiana – US M1842 Muskets.
7th Virginia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
24th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th South Carolina – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
1st Louisiana Special Battalion "Wheat's Tigers" – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
8th Louisiana – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
Hampton's South Carolina Legion – French Liege Muskets.

Union Units at 1st Bull Run:

2nd Maine – US M1822 Muskets.
1st Connecticut – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Connecticut – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
3rd Connecticut – US M1842 Muskets.
82nd New York "2nd New York Militia" – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
1st Ohio – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Ohio – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
13th New York "Rochester Regiment" – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
69th New York "Meagher's Zouaves" – US M1842 Muskets.
79th New York "Highlanders" – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Wisconsin – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
1st Massachusetts – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
12th New York – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Michigan – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Michigan – US M1822 Muskets.
8th New York Militia "Washington Grays" – US M1842 Muskets.
27th New York "Union Regiment" – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
84th New York "14th Brooklyn" – 1853 British Enfield Rifles.
Sykes' Battalion of U.S. Infantry – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
Battalion of U.S. Marines – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Hampshire – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Rhode Island – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Rhode Island – US M1822 Muskets.
71st New York – French Liege Muskets.
5th Massechusetts Militia – US M1842 Muskets.
11th Massachusetts "Boston Volunteers" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st Minnesota – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
38th New York "2nd Scott's Life Guards" – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Michigan – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
4th Michigan – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Maine – French Liege Muskets.
4th Maine – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
5th Maine – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Vermont – US M1842 Muskets.
1st New Jersey Militia – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Jersey Militia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Militia – US M1842 Muskets.
4th New Jersey Militia – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st New Jersey Volunteers – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd New Jersey Volunteers – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Volunteers – 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
41st New York "2nd Jager Regiment" – US M1842 Muskets.
8th New York – US M1842 Muskets.
29th New York "Astor Rifles" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
39th New York "Garibaldi Guard" – US M1842 Muskets.
27th Pennsylvania – French Liege Muskets.
16th New York – US M1842 Muskets.
18th New York – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
31st New York "Baxter's Light Guard" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
32nd New York – 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
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Interesting, I never knew they had that much variety in their weapons. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 26, 2014, 08:39:46 pm
If this is possible for regiments for the Confederates, you know like the swords are mixed between two for some classes? I was thinking you could do the same with a Springfield 42, and a Springfield 55 for the Confeds, because the Confederates did capture 55's from the Union dead.

Well basicly, the Harpers Ferry Rifle 55 and Springfield Rifle 55 are basicly the same rifles. The production place was the only difference. But at Manassas, nearly no confederate regiment had the new 1855 model rifles. So you have to capture them of the battlefield, not within your equipment at spawn :)

At the moment, I am working with this historical WEAPON list:

Spoiler
2nd Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
5th Virginia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
27th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
33rd Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Georgia – US M1842 Muskets.
8th Georgia – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
4th Alabama – US M1842 Muskets.
6th North Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Mississippi – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
11th Mississippi – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Maryland Battalion "Zouave Guards" – US M1841 Mississippi Rifle.
3rd Tennessee "Vaughn's Third" – US M1842 Muskets.
10th Virginia "Warren's" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd Tennessee "Walker's Second" – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
1st Arkansas – US M1842 Muskets
11th North Carolina – US M1822 Muskets.
2nd South Carolina "Palmento Guards" – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
3rd South Carolina – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
7th South Carolina – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
8th South Carolina – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
5th Alabama – Tyler Texas Rifles.
6th Alabama – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
6th Louisiana – US M1842 Muskets.
17th Mississippi "Featherston's" – US M1822 Muskets.
18th Mississippi "Burt's" – US M1822 Muskets.
5th South Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
5th North Carolina – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
11th Virginia "Southern Guard" – US M1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles.
17th Virginia "Alexandria Rifles" – US M1842 Muskets.
8th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
18th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
19th Virginia – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
28th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
49th Virginia – US M1842 Muskets.
13th Mississippi "Barksdale's" – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Louisiana – US M1842 Muskets.
7th Virginia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
24th Virginia – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th South Carolina – US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
1st Louisiana Special Battalion "Wheat's Tigers" – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
8th Louisiana – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
Hampton's South Carolina Legion – French Liege Muskets.

Union Units at 1st Bull Run:

2nd Maine – US M1822 Muskets.
1st Connecticut – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Connecticut – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
3rd Connecticut – US M1842 Muskets.
82nd New York "2nd New York Militia" – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
1st Ohio – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Ohio – US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
13th New York "Rochester Regiment" – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
69th New York "Meagher's Zouaves" – US M1842 Muskets.
79th New York "Highlanders" – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Wisconsin – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
1st Massachusetts – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
12th New York – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Michigan – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Michigan – US M1822 Muskets.
8th New York Militia "Washington Grays" – US M1842 Muskets.
27th New York "Union Regiment" – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
84th New York "14th Brooklyn" – 1853 British Enfield Rifles.
Sykes' Battalion of U.S. Infantry – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
Battalion of U.S. Marines – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Hampshire – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Rhode Island – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Rhode Island – US M1822 Muskets.
71st New York – French Liege Muskets.
5th Massechusetts Militia – US M1842 Muskets.
11th Massachusetts "Boston Volunteers" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st Minnesota – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
38th New York "2nd Scott's Life Guards" – US M1842 Muskets.
1st Michigan – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
4th Michigan – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Maine – French Liege Muskets.
4th Maine – 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
5th Maine – US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Vermont – US M1842 Muskets.
1st New Jersey Militia – M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Jersey Militia – 1843 Belgian Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Militia – US M1842 Muskets.
4th New Jersey Militia – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st New Jersey Volunteers – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd New Jersey Volunteers – US M1842 Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Volunteers – 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
41st New York "2nd Jager Regiment" – US M1842 Muskets.
8th New York – US M1842 Muskets.
29th New York "Astor Rifles" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
39th New York "Garibaldi Guard" – US M1842 Muskets.
27th Pennsylvania – French Liege Muskets.
16th New York – US M1842 Muskets.
18th New York – US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
31st New York "Baxter's Light Guard" – Prussian 1834 Muskets.
32nd New York – 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
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I tought only the confederates had flintlock muskets at the begining of the war, then after this list i realized some yanks also had some
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on December 28, 2014, 12:39:09 am
Very few (if any) rifles or muskets at the time had flintlock mechanisms. Most were converted models because creating a brand new gun is much more costly then a simple conversion. While its possible they were present at the battle most of the units shown carrying flintlocks were in fact using the converted firing mechanisms.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 29, 2014, 12:30:37 pm
Private B of the 4th Alabama infantry
Click to view as 3D model

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141229%2Fp79yv9y2.jpg&hash=249b775933d32521c3c83951f5a853ab33f214c9) (https://p3d.in/Kc9YB)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on December 29, 2014, 02:26:37 pm
All the skins are looking top notch so far. Can't wait until the finished product
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 29, 2014, 02:26:57 pm
Private A of the 79th New York Infantry "Cameron Highlanders"
Click to view as 3D model

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141229%2Fc4s7kiha.jpg&hash=89add9207fd9a513706034691e704fc072ea3e6f) (https://p3d.in/2KkB2)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 29, 2014, 02:31:37 pm
Private A of the 79th New York Infantry "Cameron Highlanders"
Click to view as 3D model

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141229%2Fc4s7kiha.jpg&hash=89add9207fd9a513706034691e704fc072ea3e6f) (https://p3d.in/2KkB2)

Nice one Hinkel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on December 29, 2014, 02:33:02 pm
Spoiler
Private B of the 4th Alabama infantry
Click to view as 3D model

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141229%2Fp79yv9y2.jpg&hash=249b775933d32521c3c83951f5a853ab33f214c9) (https://p3d.in/Kc9YB)
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Wow looks very good! Keep up the nice work n&s team!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 29, 2014, 02:34:19 pm
Private B of the 4th Alabama infantry
Click to view as 3D model

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141229%2Fp79yv9y2.jpg&hash=249b775933d32521c3c83951f5a853ab33f214c9) (https://p3d.in/Kc9YB)

Only thing i didn't like in general of this uniform is the forage cap, it looks short and a bit ugly if you view it by the sides. But the rest is looking kickass
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 29, 2014, 02:52:30 pm
How forage caps of this mod could be in my opinion:

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http://civilwartalk.com/attachments/2853b-jpg.5330/
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0e/20/c8/0e20c80d15f1212e4c3e157f46230ed1.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/fd/f3/6dfdf3702ba450c2d4706df1d9727347.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/71/b3/7c71b3f25d7336eba581f103f71d8b0d.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/b9/55/ccb955191b1e1ab11ba939ea9cda6802.jpg
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 29, 2014, 03:01:06 pm
How forage caps of this mod could be in my opinion:

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http://civilwartalk.com/attachments/2853b-jpg.5330/
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0e/20/c8/0e20c80d15f1212e4c3e157f46230ed1.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/fd/f3/6dfdf3702ba450c2d4706df1d9727347.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/71/b3/7c71b3f25d7336eba581f103f71d8b0d.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/b9/55/ccb955191b1e1ab11ba939ea9cda6802.jpg
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Those forage caps you posted were pretty unique.
I am using the more common and used caps .. like this:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/49/dc/73/49dc735f95842395e1243411f7b06e3d.jpg)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.njsekela.com%2Fimages%2F0732commercialforagecap.jpg&hash=95020f06535c766a4c9e3aab5c77fcc30fd81b0c)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 29, 2014, 04:28:43 pm
How forage caps of this mod could be in my opinion:

Spoiler
http://civilwartalk.com/attachments/2853b-jpg.5330/
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0e/20/c8/0e20c80d15f1212e4c3e157f46230ed1.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/fd/f3/6dfdf3702ba450c2d4706df1d9727347.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/71/b3/7c71b3f25d7336eba581f103f71d8b0d.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/b9/55/ccb955191b1e1ab11ba939ea9cda6802.jpg
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Those forage caps you posted were pretty unique.
I am using the more common and used caps .. like this:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/49/dc/73/49dc735f95842395e1243411f7b06e3d.jpg)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.njsekela.com%2Fimages%2F0732commercialforagecap.jpg&hash=95020f06535c766a4c9e3aab5c77fcc30fd81b0c)

As a shapeless hat, it wouldn't be necessairly shaped like this, with the top thrown to the front.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on December 29, 2014, 04:59:50 pm
It looks like a stovepipe shako that doesn't lift.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on December 29, 2014, 05:07:47 pm
Are you people really debating the physics of a kepi?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 29, 2014, 05:15:32 pm
Are you people really debating the physics of a kepi?

As a matter of fact; we are debating the physics of a forage cap not a kepi.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 29, 2014, 05:16:09 pm
It looks like a stovepipe shako that doesn't lift.

The ones hinkel is using or the ones i've sent?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on December 29, 2014, 06:54:02 pm
I just made a mess in my pants for the 4thAL render
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 29, 2014, 07:20:54 pm

As a shapeless hat, it wouldn't be necessairly shaped like this, with the top thrown to the front.

Using real photos, its mostly this shape :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shadowlandstudios.com%2Fimages%2F13th_NYCav_July1865detail.jpg&hash=abdd38a5a3143fce92118ce4f838d65053a83cb4)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 29, 2014, 10:21:18 pm
NicolasKiyoshi, please stop double posting, use the modify button.

By the way Hinkel, I love the progress so far!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Commissar Jdf on December 29, 2014, 10:22:30 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/5c9b606d083eb099c4d85d71e35c0f0f.png)

:o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on December 29, 2014, 11:05:15 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/5c9b606d083eb099c4d85d71e35c0f0f.png)

:o

wut
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 29, 2014, 11:37:05 pm
Hinkel. why not use bariants of the kepi in the same regiment? Few diferents positions of the top of the kepi maybe.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 30, 2014, 06:56:20 am
Hinkel. why not use bariants of the kepi in the same regiment? Few diferents positions of the top of the kepi maybe.

At least he could make the height of the actual forage caps bigger
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 30, 2014, 09:48:07 am
Hinkel. why not use bariants of the kepi in the same regiment? Few diferents positions of the top of the kepi maybe.

Well, there are indeed different variants of forage caps, like that. It has a different position for example:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F141230%2Fprxzo662.jpg&hash=feaf76c8de29ba1da8a37461f4161b62c94e5e35)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on December 30, 2014, 12:17:34 pm
I find it looks too angled, like the front of the hat has just been swallowed by the jaws of infinity.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 30, 2014, 03:07:57 pm
I find it looks too angled, like the front of the hat has just been swallowed by the jaws of infinity.

+1 this is basically what i was trying to say
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on December 30, 2014, 03:39:13 pm
I dont get it... Pls give me references or a drawing, whats wrong with the cap or how you think its correct. The cap was directly modelled out of a reenactor photo, wearing the cap in 4 different angles.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on December 30, 2014, 03:52:21 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/F2GzKFG.jpg?)
I think what they're after is this kind of a variety of head wear. You see there are men on the far left who's hats are a very simple singular shape then the men on the right have the very slouched hats. What they're asking for I think is the back right one in kind of hat to be implemented more.
Hope I got this right and that it helps
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on December 30, 2014, 03:55:31 pm
I like it. But I think they was talking about polygons. Looks like hexagon, but not a great problem imo.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 30, 2014, 04:13:58 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/F2GzKFG.jpg?)
I think what they're after is this kind of a variety of head wear. You see there are men on the far left who's hats are a very simple singular shape then the men on the right have the very slouched hats. What they're asking for I think is the back right one in kind of hat to be implemented more.
Hope I got this right and that it helps

The one i liked is the one from the last man in the right
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 30, 2014, 04:30:12 pm
I'm sending other list of images for reference, Hinkel.

Spoiler
http://rubengusman_1.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/2hats.jpg
http://www.ushist.com/img/cs/images/qm-1008_jackson_forage_cap_l.jpg
http://www.civilwar-pictures.com/g/albums/confederate-soldiers-officers/nunnally.sized.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3462/3392999692_9094391130.jpg
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/27100/27155r.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5009/5228589281_e68f695d15_z.jpg
http://www.quartermastershop.com/CW%20Caps/images/jackson_cap_0806%20Genl%20Jackson%20Caps%20400p.jpg
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And I have to say, the version 0.5 kepi is so far the hat i most liked, besides the one carried by the 11th Mississippi in version 0.5.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on January 04, 2015, 01:47:28 am
Yes! Number 3 won on the voting.  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 04, 2015, 01:59:40 am
Yes! Number 3 won on the voting.  8)

Anyway they couldn't move while reloading, i think no one could, to reload the musket properly it must be pointed up and stand still. Hinkel, please, to be more historical accurate, no withworth rifles for the Union, those were made by UK and used only by the CSA. CSA soldiers called it the "wonder rifle".
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on January 04, 2015, 12:54:13 pm
please, to be more historical accurate

Because we all know how 'fun' a truly historically accurate mod would be...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 04, 2015, 12:58:24 pm
Yes! Number 3 won on the voting.  8)
Hinkel, please, to be more historical accurate, no withworth rifles for the Union, .

So, I should give them the historical Sharps Rifle.. which cannot be reloaded while moving (cause of the vote). In the warband engine it means, that the gun would be reloaded via ramrod, same animations as a rifle.
Uh dear, there goes the historical accuracy :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 04, 2015, 01:20:44 pm
Should make melee 1 stab kill

pls

And less accurate shooting, ye? Don't know if that's accurate, but I think that good melee will bring people. I quit the older North and South because I kept getting shot
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 04, 2015, 01:25:56 pm
And less accurate shooting, ye? Don't know if that's accurate, but I think that good melee will bring people. I quit the older North and South because I kept getting shot

Whats the difference to NW then? Its not a melee slaughter mod..

But anyway: Weapons will loose slightly accuracy in the next update!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 04, 2015, 01:43:00 pm
Should make melee 1 stab kill

pls

And less accurate shooting, ye? Don't know if that's accurate, but I think that good melee will bring people. I quit the older North and South because I kept getting shot
The reason the accuracy is the way it is is because the weapons are riffled. In 1809 the weapons were smooth bore muskets, thus you can let loose 10 shots in NW and hit nothing. By 1861 most countries were making their standard weapons riffled like the Springfield for America. The long barrelled, new Minie ball bullet design and riffling made Rifle far more accurate.

Hinkel should by no mean remove any of the accuracy from N&S as that was how the weapons were at the time. If you quite just because you kept getting shot it shows you have no appreciation for the history of the time and one of the Mod's key beauties, it's historical accuracy
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 04, 2015, 02:30:27 pm
I am not an expert on historical accuracy but:

Gameplay > Historical Accuracy

IMO
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 04, 2015, 06:30:31 pm
I am not an expert on historical accuracy but:

Gameplay > Historical Accuracy

IMO

Nope. You know why the weapons are accurate in this mod. Cause in that era, the muskets started being using rifled barrels, this would make the bullet go straight to it's target. That's why there is actually a lot of kills caused by bullets than stabs.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 04, 2015, 06:34:11 pm
A series of game, whom have a little of historical context with lots of historical inaccuracy is The Assassin's Creed series. I don't like it, honestly; there is more phantasy and parkour then history in this games. For example in Assassin's Creed III, the muskets didn't missed a single shot. Other weird stuff was in Assassins Creed Revelations, Istambul ( previously called Constantinople ), is dominated by the ottoman empire, yet there is byzantine soldiers inside it's walls, like if they were a gang or some shit like this.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 04, 2015, 07:26:57 pm
I guess it just depends on your prefered playstyle.

I like to run into regiments and rek them with a bayonet, while you might prefer to shoot a regiment to pieces. For people like me that love the M&B melee in which you can rek several people by your own it isn't much fun to just get shot all the time.

E:

But master Hinkel decides anyway. I am merely sharing my opinion
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 04, 2015, 08:10:05 pm
I guess it just depends on your prefered playstyle.

I like to run into regiments and rek them with a bayonet, while you might prefer to shoot a regiment to pieces. For people like me that love the M&B melee in which you can rek several people by your own it isn't much fun to just get shot all the time.

E:

But master Hinkel decides anyway. I am merely sharing my opinion

I know that feel when you're shot. But I feel that I can't complain, because i also like shooting other people. Same idea applies for more combat situations in this mod.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on January 05, 2015, 04:05:28 pm
I guess it just depends on your prefered playstyle.

I like to run into regiments and rek them with a bayonet, while you might prefer to shoot a regiment to pieces. For people like me that love the M&B melee in which you can rek several people by your own it isn't much fun to just get shot all the time.

E:

But master Hinkel decides anyway. I am merely sharing my opinion

I know that feel when you're shot. But I feel that I can't complain, because i also like shooting other people. Same idea applies for more combat situations in this mod.
Also this is the Civil War. During that time they had better guns than they did in the Napoleonic Era, so it makes sense that there is less melee in this mod compared to NW.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 05, 2015, 07:48:35 pm
I guess it just depends on your prefered playstyle.

I like to run into regiments and rek them with a bayonet, while you might prefer to shoot a regiment to pieces. For people like me that love the M&B melee in which you can rek several people by your own it isn't much fun to just get shot all the time.

E:

But master Hinkel decides anyway. I am merely sharing my opinion

I know that feel when you're shot. But I feel that I can't complain, because i also like shooting other people. Same idea applies for more combat situations in this mod.
Also this is the Civil War. During that time they had better guns than they did in the Napoleonic Era, so it makes sense that there is less melee in this mod compared to NW.

On the events, i can see both melee and shooting constantly. Most commanders like to thrown their men in a charge most of the times, even if the enemy have more soldiers and other factors. Anyway, once in a event i saw 75% of my regiment being whiped out in a single volley, the enemy appeared on the hills and did it, only 4 men survived, counting me, less then 5 minutes later, i was the only survivor from that regiment.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 05, 2015, 07:54:34 pm
I could associate the tragedy to this photos from the civil war:

Spoiler
http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/69/EwellsDeadSpotsylvania1864crop01.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/537.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/306.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Conf_dead_chancellorsville_edit1.jpg
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I though, was the civil cassualties like this? Entire companies wiped out in few volleys?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 05, 2015, 08:08:31 pm
Quote from: NicolasKiyoshi link=topic=18839.msg894856#msg894856
I though, was the civil cassualties like this? Entire companies wiped out in few volleys?
[/quote

"The massed guns of the Confederates cut down hundrets of Irish - within the first 2 minutes of engaging the enemy. The 69th New York and the 63rd New York lost about 60 percent of their men in those 2 minutes. Captain Joseph O'Neill of Company A saw all his men killed or wounded in just two volleys from the Sunken Road" - September 17th, 1862 - Antietam
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 05, 2015, 08:09:03 pm
I could associate the tragedy to this photos from the civil war:

Spoiler
http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/69/EwellsDeadSpotsylvania1864crop01.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/537.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/306.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Conf_dead_chancellorsville_edit1.jpg
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I though, was the civil cassualties like this? Entire companies wiped out in few volleys?

"The massed guns of the Confederates cut down hundrets of Irish - within the first 2 minutes of engaging the enemy. The 69th New York and the 63rd New York lost about 60 percent of their men in those 2 minutes. Captain Joseph O'Neill of Company A saw all his men killed or wounded in just two volleys at the Sunken Road" - September 17th, 1862 - Antietam
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 05, 2015, 09:13:14 pm
I could associate the tragedy to this photos from the civil war:

Spoiler
http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/69/EwellsDeadSpotsylvania1864crop01.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/537.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/306.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Conf_dead_chancellorsville_edit1.jpg
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I though, was the civil cassualties like this? Entire companies wiped out in few volleys?

"The massed guns of the Confederates cut down hundrets of Irish - within the first 2 minutes of engaging the enemy. The 69th New York and the 63rd New York lost about 60 percent of their men in those 2 minutes. Captain Joseph O'Neill of Company A saw all his men killed or wounded in just two volleys at the Sunken Road" - September 17th, 1862 - Antietam

So i had lived with this mod the most realistic ever decimation of a company by the yankees.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 06, 2015, 08:19:14 pm
I can say this mod has stuck true to the Civil war has I had a full Company of 32 men, myself as one, Gunned down in less then a minute by a side on volley from 3 Confed Regiments. It was a slaughter to behold.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on January 06, 2015, 08:58:38 pm
Still looking forward to it :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 06, 2015, 10:42:34 pm
Still looking forward to it :-*

U wut m8??? You wanna be butchered by deadly volleys?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 12, 2015, 01:30:25 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I could possibly make?

Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: George385 on January 12, 2015, 04:48:25 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I could possibly make?

Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)

yussss
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 13, 2015, 12:24:15 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I could possibly make?

Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)

yussss

Man, never heard of this mapper, but... i would like to see some of his already done maps.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 12:27:47 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I could possibly make?

Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)

yussss

Man, never heard of this mapper, but... i would like to see some of his already done maps.
Dekkers's Mapping Thread
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=3104.0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 13, 2015, 12:49:37 am
Please concider that some maps there are nearly two years old :p

Only just noticed... time goes fast
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 13, 2015, 12:55:42 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I  Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)

yussss

Man, never heard of this mapper, but... i would like to see some of his already done maps.

K..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mmLRTVYgEq4
Spoiler
jk
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Sorry for double post... I'm using my phone :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Robins on January 13, 2015, 06:19:31 am
This mod looks cool  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 13, 2015, 07:39:40 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I  Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)

yussss

Man, never heard of this mapper, but... i would like to see some of his already done maps.

K..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mmLRTVYgEq4
Spoiler
jk
[close]

Sorry for double post... I'm using my phone :)

Considering that most are two years old, i will view that the newer ones are improved because of experience you gained with time. Anyway, i will take a look now
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 13, 2015, 07:43:55 am
About those maps. Can you describe some that I  Please note: I am not promising that I am making them as I rarely map now a days, but I can have a look :)

yussss

Man, never heard of this mapper, but... i would like to see some of his already done maps.

K..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mmLRTVYgEq4
Spoiler
jk
[close]

Sorry for double post... I'm using my phone :)

Considering that most are two years old, i will view that the newer ones are improved because of experience you gained with time. Anyway, i will take a look now

Didn't looked atensiosily but some caught my attention, i would like to see "The Keep" (Helm's Deep one for native), it's screenshot doesn't shows up. Also Minas Tirith one was 10/10
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 13, 2015, 09:52:48 am
Nicolas can you please...PLEASE try and stop mass quoting. It chokes this thread up to no ennd.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 13, 2015, 10:03:36 am
Yeah, I guess you can take that discussion here :P https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=3104.0

My newest maps are my PW maps though. But uhm... FPS is a real struggle there so they lack detail. Anyway, enough about that. Sorry for interrupting
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on January 13, 2015, 11:31:25 am
Nicolas can you please...PLEASE try and stop mass quoting. It chokes this thread up to no ennd.

And double posting. He always does that.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 14, 2015, 05:24:58 am
Nicolas can you please...PLEASE try and stop mass quoting. It chokes this thread up to no ennd.

And double posting. He always does that.

I sense butthurting
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on January 14, 2015, 05:36:55 am
Maybe if you stopped, they wouldn't be butthurt...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 14, 2015, 03:53:16 pm
Just a small update:

Made a little hold the last days. The "last" parts are always a pain.. so just be patient. Hopefully, you will get a lovely present in january :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on January 14, 2015, 03:56:08 pm
It is January q.q Give it now!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on January 14, 2015, 06:43:20 pm
Just a small update:

Made a little hold the last days. The "last" parts are always a pain.. so just be patient. Hopefully, you will get a lovely present in january :)

Aww, yes! Only 17 days left before January ends!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 14, 2015, 11:16:34 pm
It is January q.q Give it now!

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on January 16, 2015, 09:22:57 am
 Well I have  to say the VMI guys look good I would love to do a reenactment of the charge the VMI boys did at The Battle of New Market, May 15, 1864 on the N&S Mod 1.0 when it comes out. If any regiment leaders would like to do that reenactment add me on steam my name on steam  is Rhett63. Also here is a good movie about the VMI boys
*Link*                 http://viooz.ac/movies/25654-field-of-lost-shoes-2014.html
 

(https://i.imgur.com/bT8yX4j.jpg?2)

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on January 16, 2015, 07:05:15 pm
 ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8epv1Y25XA
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 16, 2015, 07:17:11 pm
;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8epv1Y25XA

Old 1812/ Welcome here again ????
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on January 16, 2015, 10:35:55 pm
Spoiler
I could associate the tragedy to this photos from the civil war:

http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/69/EwellsDeadSpotsylvania1864crop01.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/537.jpg
http://www.civil-war.net/cw_images/files/images/306.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Conf_dead_chancellorsville_edit1.jpg


I though, was the civil cassualties like this? Entire companies wiped out in few volleys?
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"The massed guns of the Confederates cut down hundrets of Irish - within the first 2 minutes of engaging the enemy. The 69th New York and the 63rd New York lost about 60 percent of their men in those 2 minutes. Captain Joseph O'Neill of Company A saw all his men killed or wounded in just two volleys at the Sunken Road" - September 17th, 1862 - Antietam

Hell yeah they did.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JackAubrey on January 18, 2015, 10:40:12 am
All we (good unionist boys!) have to celebrate this moment!...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v582kPp43Mg[/youtube]

...good work Hink!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 11:01:40 am
...good work Hink!

You should thank Parrot and Docm30 too :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JackAubrey on January 18, 2015, 11:05:59 am
...good work Hink!

You should thank Parrot and Docm30 too :)

...i'm sorry, you are right!
Of course thanks a lot to you too, guys!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 11:31:51 am
The Union Army - a small part of it..  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fl88lcpok.jpg&hash=1b070d84436c1a7af2209bcf2f8512a3ca7a1679)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 18, 2015, 12:20:14 pm
The Union Army - a small part of it..  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fl88lcpok.jpg&hash=1b070d84436c1a7af2209bcf2f8512a3ca7a1679)

Can you make other image like this, but with confederate uniforms? Ones that should be in this pic ( from left to right ): 11th Mississippi, Lousiana Tigers, VMI Cadets, CS Marine Corps, 33rd Virginia
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 12:26:14 pm
Can you make other image like this, but with confederate uniforms? Ones that should be in this pic ( from left to right ): 11th Mississippi, Lousiana Tigers, VMI Cadets, CS Marine Corps, 33rd Virginia

I just finished the rebel one.. but I used some other units ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fybhrq92h.jpg&hash=faf83dbadc2442156e10d5adde6ee675df45ca5a)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 18, 2015, 01:48:32 pm
Can you make other image like this, but with confederate uniforms? Ones that should be in this pic ( from left to right ): 11th Mississippi, Lousiana Tigers, VMI Cadets, CS Marine Corps, 33rd Virginia

I just finished the rebel one.. but I used some other units ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fybhrq92h.jpg&hash=faf83dbadc2442156e10d5adde6ee675df45ca5a)

From left to right: Which unit is the first, fourth and fifth?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 02:23:27 pm
From left to right: Which unit is the first, fourth and fifth?

7th Georgia, 7th Georgia officer and 4th Alabama Company B.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 18, 2015, 03:18:58 pm
Are the units really going to have that rifle across the shoulder animation? I hate to say it but I really wish you'd keep the current animations and not put in the NW enhancement mod animations. They make it all the units look unprofessional and more like militia then actual trained and drilled troops.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 03:20:24 pm
Are the units really going to have that rifle across the shoulder animation?

No, just for coolness factor of the screen...  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 18, 2015, 03:27:10 pm
Are the units really going to have that rifle across the shoulder animation?

No, just for coolness factor of the screen...  :-\
I'm sorry to sound so harsh Hink but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 18, 2015, 03:34:48 pm
Are the units really going to have that rifle across the shoulder animation?

No, just for coolness factor of the screen...  :-\
I'm sorry to sound so harsh Hink but that is just my opinion.

So now i'm giving my opinion: I like the original Napoleonic Wars musket and sword iddle animation, it's so nice to see the men in such a disciplined iddle animation.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on January 18, 2015, 04:30:16 pm
Are the units really going to have that rifle across the shoulder animation?

No, just for coolness factor of the screen...  :-\
I'm sorry to sound so harsh Hink but that is just my opinion.

So now i'm giving my opinion: I like the original Napoleonic Wars musket and sword iddle animation, it's so nice to see the men in such a disciplined iddle animation.
And it looks completely natural to sprain your wrist whilst carrying things.  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on January 18, 2015, 06:26:31 pm
If only the sharpshooters were in the Union photo... oh well  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on January 18, 2015, 06:31:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/RlF0AF3.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on January 18, 2015, 06:49:08 pm
The willies are strong with this one, looking good!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on January 18, 2015, 06:51:09 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/RlF0AF3.jpg)

The question is, will naval battles work in this mod? (Like Deluge) Cause if they did it would make it 10x better, just fighting in a ironclad that works would be awesome.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 07:03:17 pm
If only the sharpshooters were in the Union photo... oh well  :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fagy22w2f.png&hash=be46b583868ab7dd53362178adcf159ce48b265c)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on January 18, 2015, 07:08:55 pm
The question is, will naval battles work in this mod? (Like Deluge) Cause if they did it would make it 10x better, just fighting in a ironclad that works would be awesome.

Nope; unfortunately the ship doesn't move, it's a static prop just like the frigate in NW. Although since the sloop is bigger and has more deck space (more guns!) the dynamics of how it can be used as a prop have changed, basically there's more room for imagination.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 18, 2015, 10:38:11 pm
If only the sharpshooters were in the Union photo... oh well  :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fagy22w2f.png&hash=be46b583868ab7dd53362178adcf159ce48b265c)
Rogan's Sharpshooters are going to be some happy chaps
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on January 18, 2015, 10:51:11 pm
The uniforms and scenes are looking great! I have one pressing question though.
Will the NaS updater be used again or the installer?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on January 18, 2015, 10:52:43 pm
Indeed, Brave, we will be very happy when 1.0 comes out. So will the entire regiment.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 18, 2015, 10:54:31 pm
Will the NaS updater be used again or the installer?

Thats not clear yet.
Since its a huge new version, a full client download with installer will be needed.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on January 18, 2015, 11:03:14 pm
Will the NaS updater be used again or the installer?

Thats not clear yet.
Since its a huge new version, a full client download with installer will be needed.
Yeah, the updater was great when it worked. The installer worked well before.
I remember playing the older version of the mod, how time flies  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 18, 2015, 11:34:13 pm
Indeed, Brave, we will be very happy when 1.0 comes out. So will the entire regiment.

The hole NaS Community is going to be very happy I am sure about that :D 8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on January 19, 2015, 04:24:41 am
If only the sharpshooters were in the Union photo... oh well  :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Bspoiler%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fagy22w2f.png&hash=9c434186747372084134dbf15dc72bb864cef3f2)[/spoiler]
Rogan's Sharpshooters are going to be some happy chaps

Lmao, i see what you did there  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 19, 2015, 05:44:55 am
If only the sharpshooters were in the Union photo... oh well  :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fagy22w2f.png&hash=be46b583868ab7dd53362178adcf159ce48b265c)

Can you make a picture of the 11th Mississippi regiment? Also, a request; when the mod be released, can you upload the installer on mega? It's so freaking fast to download in this website.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 19, 2015, 06:17:49 am
Can you stop asking for the release date you impatient fool! Hinkel every time Nicolas asks for the release date I want you to extend your planned date by a week just to get him to shut up. 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on January 19, 2015, 06:29:20 am
Can you stop asking for the release date you impatient fool! Hinkel every time Nicolas asks for the release date I want you to extend your planned date by a week just to get him to shut up.
He could always just mute Nicolas.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 19, 2015, 07:01:55 am
I was just asking if Hinkel could upload the mod on MEGA, of course, only when it releases, i'm not asking when it's going to release. I think some of y'all don't read all stuff I write.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 19, 2015, 11:58:19 am
Can you make a picture of the 11th Mississippi regiment?

Just for you  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150119%2Fxsb6evnf.jpg&hash=20f7b579cf4017ec3fc4df9b89c388a036dfc300)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on January 19, 2015, 02:29:25 pm
Nice news Hinkel and team!!!

Is the rank system implemented already?

Thx for your work ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 19, 2015, 02:55:22 pm
Is the rank system implemented already?


I will be honest: There is a problem with it at the moment. The rank system (which is based on a tool), requieres a good, stable und trustfull FTP server. I cannot effort such a server currently.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on January 19, 2015, 03:08:44 pm
Where's Marks Bitches?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 19, 2015, 03:53:18 pm
Can you make a picture of the 11th Mississippi regiment?

Just for you  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150119%2Fxsb6evnf.jpg&hash=20f7b579cf4017ec3fc4df9b89c388a036dfc300)

Thank you Hinkel!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sasuau on January 19, 2015, 06:04:03 pm
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150118%2Fagy22w2f.png&hash=be46b583868ab7dd53362178adcf159ce48b265c)
[close]
Looking damn sexy, those sharps. Good job Hinkel & Co!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on January 19, 2015, 06:26:26 pm
Damn, looking good, I'd love to see some 11th New York  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on January 19, 2015, 10:48:18 pm
Is the rank system implemented already?


I will be honest: There is a problem with it at the moment. The rank system (which is based on a tool), requieres a good, stable und trustfull FTP server. I cannot effort such a server currently.


Ok Hinkel, thanks for answer and being honest ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 20, 2015, 11:14:27 am
Damn, looking good, I'd love to see some 11th New York  8)

Here they are:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150120%2F29nurwrz.jpg&hash=b49b3126a3add70684701d6caa69746e3a593dec)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 20, 2015, 11:53:20 am
Will all the rifles now have the ability to fix bayonets or will rifles like the Mississippi still not have that ability
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 20, 2015, 12:01:27 pm
Will all the rifles now have the ability to fix bayonets or will rifles like the Mississippi still not have that ability

Springfield 42 and Harpers Ferry will get the bayonet ability,
Mississippi and Lorenz will get better accuracy, but no fix bayonet. (They can still knock down an enemy with their rifle)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 20, 2015, 01:09:19 pm
Will all the rifles now have the ability to fix bayonets or will rifles like the Mississippi still not have that ability

Springfield 42 and Harpers Ferry will get the bayonet ability,
Mississippi and Lorenz will get better accuracy, but no fix bayonet. (They can still knock down an enemy with their rifle)

What if they had bayonets too, but less melee damage or a bit slower weapon speed.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 20, 2015, 01:11:57 pm
Damn, looking good, I'd love to see some 11th New York  8)

Here they are:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150120%2F29nurwrz.jpg&hash=b49b3126a3add70684701d6caa69746e3a593dec)

This unit will both appear using their grey coats and their redshirts separately like in this pic ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 20, 2015, 02:24:17 pm
This unit will both appear using their grey coats and their redshirts separately like in this pic ?


Yes, depends on the company you choose in the unit selection. Most units have different companies, with its own unique uniform.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on January 20, 2015, 06:09:07 pm
This unit will both appear using their grey coats and their redshirts separately like in this pic ?


Yes, depends on the company you choose in the unit selection. Most units have different companies, with its own unique uniform.

Nice feature that you've added in :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on January 20, 2015, 06:10:29 pm
Has the Springfield 1855 and Enfield been completely removed from the mod?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 20, 2015, 06:32:59 pm
Has the Springfield 1855 and Enfield been completely removed from the mod?

Both will be used by player regiments. They might not be in a public class, but may be available in maps, which have an armory and the weapons in :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 20, 2015, 07:16:01 pm
Has the Springfield 1855 and Enfield been completely removed from the mod?

Both will be used by player regiments. They might not be in a public class, but may be available in maps, which have an armory and the weapons in :)
Expand on what is meant by *pause for effect* player regiments
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on January 20, 2015, 07:41:14 pm
Ya, what's a player regiment?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 20, 2015, 07:45:27 pm
For example: 14th Brooklyn, used by players which have a special key. Just they have access to that regiment.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on January 20, 2015, 07:47:48 pm
For example: 14th Brooklyn, used by players which have a special key. Just they have access to that regiment.

Special MajGen class for me? :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on January 20, 2015, 07:50:26 pm
Wait, so that actually is happening? Nice.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 20, 2015, 07:52:18 pm
Wait, so that actually is happening? Nice.

Not as much as I want.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 20, 2015, 07:54:50 pm
Wait, so that actually is happening? Nice.

Not as much as I want.

72ndPA or 146thNY?  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on January 20, 2015, 07:56:24 pm
Wait, so that actually is happening? Nice.

Not as much as I want.

72ndPA or 146thNY?  :-*
Why you do this , babe  :-[
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 20, 2015, 08:01:24 pm
Wait, so that actually is happening? Nice.

Not as much as I want.

72ndPA or 146thNY?  :-*
Why you do this , babe  :-[
No bade I'm asking for both of them. Zouaves need to stick together
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on January 20, 2015, 08:07:45 pm
Hell ya we do.  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on January 20, 2015, 08:15:08 pm
Hell ya we do.  :)
No bade I'm asking for both of them. Zouaves need to stick together


Please get a room!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on January 20, 2015, 08:19:23 pm
I see a man from Yorkshire. I know just the thing for you.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on January 20, 2015, 08:25:09 pm
I see a man from Yorkshire. I know just the thing for you.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
[close]
Nice one m8
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 21, 2015, 12:04:36 am
Hell ya we do.  :)
No bade I'm asking for both of them. Zouaves need to stick together


Please get a room!
We've got a room reserved for us in Hell when Jonny Reb finally sends us there.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on January 21, 2015, 12:12:48 am
I don't really like the idea of the 14th NYSM just going to members in the 14th NYSM.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 21, 2015, 12:36:29 am
I don't really like the idea of the 14th NYSM just going to members in the 14th NYSM.
I'm cool with it if he implements it to Regiments he knows he can trust. *cough* 26thNC *cough*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 21, 2015, 05:39:02 am
This unit will both appear using their grey coats and their redshirts separately like in this pic ?


Yes, depends on the company you choose in the unit selection. Most units have different companies, with its own unique uniform.

Nice feature that you've added in :)

For Sure
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 21, 2015, 05:42:18 am
I don't really like the idea of the 14th NYSM just going to members in the 14th NYSM.
I'm cool with it if he implements it to Regiments he knows he can trust. *cough* 26thNC *cough*

Will the player regiments have different stats than the public ones?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on January 21, 2015, 05:44:58 am
Congrats on 50 pages  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 21, 2015, 10:26:25 am
Will the player regiments have different stats than the public ones?

No :)
They are the same, expect for the look.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on January 21, 2015, 10:36:27 am
I like the idea, is like the Deluge clan banners and flags, that you get with a code ingame.
Maybe is a good idea use it in NaS to. What do you think Hinkel?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 21, 2015, 11:07:53 am
Will the uniforms be view able by all in game or just those that own them?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 21, 2015, 11:24:02 am
Will the uniforms be view able by all in game or just those that own them?

The uniforms can be used on official servers (which get the server files by me - with an application) and will be visible for all :)
The "first" release candit will offer about 6 of such units.

3rd Arkansas
14th Brooklyn
3rd Butterfly Hussars
72nd Pennsylvania
Berdan Sharpshooters
26th North Carolina
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on January 21, 2015, 02:15:14 pm
Will the uniforms be view able by all in game or just those that own them?

The uniforms can be used on official servers (which get the server files by me - with an application) and will be visible for all :)
The "first" release candit will offer about 6 of such units.

3rd Arkansas
14th Brooklyn
3rd Butterfly Hussars
72nd Pennsylvania
Berdan Sharpshooters
26th North Carolina


Nice......... :D The more regiments in the game the better! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on January 21, 2015, 02:37:11 pm
To be honest, I haven't played this mod since it first released. However, I am really excited for this new update so I can get back into it  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 21, 2015, 02:48:54 pm
To be honest, I haven't played this mod since it first released. However, I am really excited for this new update so I can get back into it  ;)

Then you missed a lot of fun since the release...  :-\
There were about 5 big updates since that time :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LaBelle on January 21, 2015, 05:05:50 pm
I am nodding approvingly.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on January 21, 2015, 05:53:25 pm
Honestly, the ACW is my most favourite war. I mean that by interest. And thank John Wayne for that!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on January 21, 2015, 06:35:39 pm
Honestly, the ACW is my most favourite war. I mean that by interest. And thank John Wayne for that!

ok
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on January 23, 2015, 04:32:53 am
39thNY please, thank you.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on January 23, 2015, 02:30:15 pm

The uniforms can be used on official servers (which get the server files by me - with an application) and will be visible for all :)
The "first" release candit will offer about 6 of such units.

3rd Arkansas
14th Brooklyn
3rd Butterfly Hussars
72nd Pennsylvania
Berdan Sharpshooters
26th North Carolina
So what will the unofficial servers have?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on January 23, 2015, 03:08:17 pm

So what will the unofficial servers have?

Also the other public units.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: reapper on January 31, 2015, 11:57:45 pm
ok this is killing me can you give us a hint on when it will come out I have heard February all the way to November.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 01, 2015, 12:05:37 am
ok this is killing me can you give us a hint on when it will come out I have heard February all the way to November.

word
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 01, 2015, 12:11:56 am
ok this is killing me can you give us a hint on when it will come out I have heard February all the way to November.
One does not simply ask this... seriously  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 01, 2015, 12:23:38 am
ok this is killing me can you give us a hint on when it will come out I have heard February all the way to November.

"A patch is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to"

- Gandalf the Grey
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 01, 2015, 12:28:10 am
ok this is killing me can you give us a hint on when it will come out I have heard February all the way to November.

"A patch is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to"

- Gandalf the Grey

Congrats on 1001 posts Hinkel  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 01, 2015, 12:40:44 am
"A patch is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to"

- Gandalf the Grey

Nailed it
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on February 01, 2015, 03:53:17 am
Just a small update:

Made a little hold the last days. The "last" parts are always a pain.. so just be patient. Hopefully, you will get a lovely present in january :)
Nope. xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on February 01, 2015, 05:14:01 am
Just a small update:

Made a little hold the last days. The "last" parts are always a pain.. so just be patient. Hopefully, you will get a lovely present in january :)
Nope. xD

+1 Mate
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 01, 2015, 12:50:47 pm
Just a small update:

Made a little hold the last days. The "last" parts are always a pain.. so just be patient. Hopefully, you will get a lovely present in january :)
Nope. xD

lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 01, 2015, 02:28:31 pm
Guys, just be patient. ::) He said he's got family issues. Let him do this in his own time. 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Siberian Cossack on February 01, 2015, 04:32:45 pm
still no patch?  :o perhaps I'll come here after half a year, I hope I see here a link to the patch. I hope that I will not see pictures of the result of the work and the promises of patch 1.0  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 01, 2015, 04:41:21 pm
If you're going to be like that how about you NEVER come back. They're working hard on it and what we can do to support them is wait and be patient.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 01, 2015, 04:46:36 pm
still no patch?  :o perhaps I'll come here after half a year, I hope I see here a link to the patch. I hope that I will not see pictures of the result of the work and the promises of patch 1.0  :-\

Still no patch?!

Well, its just me and Parrot working on that patch. While I am also busy with lot of War of Rights stuff, Parrot is also working on Blood and Iron beside NaS.

Also: The biggest armies have a pre-patch since 2 months, which give them access to most of the new uniforms made by Docm30. The other work for the mod is made by us two, together with real-life issues, its not possible to work each day on the mod.
There are weeks, with no progress at all, since other stuff to do.

And Cossack, you are one of those guys, who are demanding everything and blaming me for shit, but you can't do nothing at your own. Why don't you try to model yourself, doing correct hammers for the rifles when shooting, doing animations and such?
Or maybe you can just sit next to my dying wife and get her cheer up, while explaining her husband is working on a free mod, which you want to play.

Beside that, you are one of those guys, who are playing it for 14 days then, blaming shit and leave for the next months...


Maybe the best would be, to make a cut and get this subboard shut down, so I don't have to read such shit comments.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 01, 2015, 05:15:15 pm
......sweet Jesus
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on February 01, 2015, 05:19:24 pm
Sorry to hear about all of that Hinkel, People do need to learn that they have to be patient for great work. Hinkel you are doing a great job mate keep it up! Fuck all the haters.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on February 01, 2015, 05:29:38 pm
Saw that avatar withour reading your username, thought I'd been hacked.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on February 01, 2015, 05:52:32 pm
Well spoken Hinkel.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on February 01, 2015, 06:18:38 pm
Sorry to hear about all of that Hinkel, People do need to learn that they have to be patient for great work. Hinkel you are doing a great job mate keep it up! Fuck all the haters.

+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 01, 2015, 06:27:34 pm
You are right Hinkel. I mean real life comes first before a stupid mod. I hope everything will be alright!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 01, 2015, 06:35:11 pm
You are right Hinkel. I mean real life comes first before a stupid mod. I hope everything will be alright!

+1 Mods are just for enjoyment. People who demand the mod now, they have nothing better in life to do.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 01, 2015, 06:39:56 pm
You are right Hinkel. I mean real life comes first before a stupid mod. I hope everything will be alright!

+1 Mods are just for enjoyment. People who demand the mod now, they have nothing better in life to do.
+ ∞
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 01, 2015, 11:26:29 pm
Sorry to hear that Hinkel, I'm also pretty annoyed by the fact that people think that mod makers are slaves to them. Well, they're not. They have real life issues like everyone else, they are NORMAL people.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 02, 2015, 12:39:30 am
Sorry to hear that Hinkel, I'm also pretty annoyed by the fact that people think that mod makers are slaves to them. Well, they're not. They have real life issues like everyone else, they are NORMAL people.

+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on February 03, 2015, 01:54:41 am
Sorry to hear about all of that Hinkel, People do need to learn that they have to be patient for great work. Hinkel you are doing a great job mate keep it up! Fuck all the haters.

+1

+1 also SHREKTED!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on February 03, 2015, 02:42:55 am
Fuck all the haters.

+1

You're work keeps hundreds of people entertained each week Hinkel. Don't worry about what one or two impatient imbeciles say. Take as long as you need to get this patch done proper.  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 03, 2015, 09:15:33 am
Again deleted because I cant use quotes anymore  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 03, 2015, 10:46:05 am
It's amazing to see how we have a rallied to the support of Hinkel! As members of FSE our patience is unending xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 03, 2015, 12:57:38 pm
FSE veterans vs FSE recruits. For Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 03, 2015, 02:51:46 pm
CHARGE!!!!!!! FOR HINKEL, FOR THE UNION!!!!!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: preussen6 on February 03, 2015, 03:42:52 pm
Better is praying to God for Hinkel's family than spam on this forum.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on February 03, 2015, 03:49:19 pm
I don't believe in gods, sorry
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Siberian Cossack on February 03, 2015, 03:59:33 pm
still no patch?  :o perhaps I'll come here after half a year, I hope I see here a link to the patch. I hope that I will not see pictures of the result of the work and the promises of patch 1.0  :-\

Still no patch?!

Well, its just me and Parrot working on that patch. While I am also busy with lot of War of Rights stuff, Parrot is also working on Blood and Iron beside NaS.

Also: The biggest armies have a pre-patch since 2 months, which give them access to most of the new uniforms made by Docm30. The other work for the mod is made by us two, together with real-life issues, its not possible to work each day on the mod.
There are weeks, with no progress at all, since other stuff to do.

And Cossack, you are one of those guys, who are demanding everything and blaming me for shit, but you can't do nothing at your own. Why don't you try to model yourself, doing correct hammers for the rifles when shooting, doing animations and such?
Or maybe you can just sit next to my dying wife and get her cheer up, while explaining her husband is working on a free mod, which you want to play.

Beside that, you are one of those guys, who are playing it for 14 days then, blaming shit and leave for the next months...


Maybe the best would be, to make a cut and get this subboard shut down, so I don't have to read such shit comments.

forgive me
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 03, 2015, 04:59:13 pm
still no patch?  :o perhaps I'll come here after half a year, I hope I see here a link to the patch. I hope that I will not see pictures of the result of the work and the promises of patch 1.0  :-\

Still no patch?!

Well, its just me and Parrot working on that patch. While I am also busy with lot of War of Rights stuff, Parrot is also working on Blood and Iron beside NaS.

Also: The biggest armies have a pre-patch since 2 months, which give them access to most of the new uniforms made by Docm30. The other work for the mod is made by us two, together with real-life issues, its not possible to work each day on the mod.
There are weeks, with no progress at all, since other stuff to do.

And Cossack, you are one of those guys, who are demanding everything and blaming me for shit, but you can't do nothing at your own. Why don't you try to model yourself, doing correct hammers for the rifles when shooting, doing animations and such?
Or maybe you can just sit next to my dying wife and get her cheer up, while explaining her husband is working on a free mod, which you want to play.

Beside that, you are one of those guys, who are playing it for 14 days then, blaming shit and leave for the next months...


Maybe the best would be, to make a cut and get this subboard shut down, so I don't have to read such shit comments.

forgive me

Well to be honest you shouldn't have been that rude to start with.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on February 03, 2015, 08:34:53 pm
still no patch?  :o perhaps I'll come here after half a year, I hope I see here a link to the patch. I hope that I will not see pictures of the result of the work and the promises of patch 1.0  :-\

Still no patch?!

Well, its just me and Parrot working on that patch. While I am also busy with lot of War of Rights stuff, Parrot is also working on Blood and Iron beside NaS.

Also: The biggest armies have a pre-patch since 2 months, which give them access to most of the new uniforms made by Docm30. The other work for the mod is made by us two, together with real-life issues, its not possible to work each day on the mod.
There are weeks, with no progress at all, since other stuff to do.

And Cossack, you are one of those guys, who are demanding everything and blaming me for shit, but you can't do nothing at your own. Why don't you try to model yourself, doing correct hammers for the rifles when shooting, doing animations and such?
Or maybe you can just sit next to my dying wife and get her cheer up, while explaining her husband is working on a free mod, which you want to play.

Beside that, you are one of those guys, who are playing it for 14 days then, blaming shit and leave for the next months...


Maybe the best would be, to make a cut and get this subboard shut down, so I don't have to read such shit comments.

forgive me

Well to be honest you shouldn't have been that rude to start with.

Real life comes first, always. And no damn reason to be rude to someone giving us stuff for free....

Hope your life calms down soon Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 03, 2015, 08:48:38 pm
Better is praying to God for Hinkel's family than spam on this forum.

+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on February 04, 2015, 10:11:24 pm
CHARGE!!!!!!! FOR HINKEL, FOR THE UNION!!!!!!!

Hinkel likes the Confederacy more. :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 05, 2015, 12:16:24 am
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1199.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa470%2FFrenchZou1%2Fboycolonel26ncgettysjuly1st.jpg&hash=d92825be22c2eaeec874a8802edbe34df66b3200)
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Charging to the death. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 05, 2015, 09:57:15 am
CHARGE!!!!!!! FOR HINKEL, FOR THE UNION!!!!!!!

Hinkel likes the Confederacy more. :P
Truth hurts :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on February 05, 2015, 07:21:42 pm
CHARGE!!!!!!! FOR HINKEL, FOR THE UNION!!!!!!!

Hinkel likes the Confederacy more. :P
Truth hurts :(

HA! SHREKT
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 05, 2015, 07:33:42 pm
CHARGE!!!!!!! FOR HINKEL, FOR THE UNION!!!!!!!

Hinkel likes the Confederacy more. :P

Indeed, he is right! (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_FLJC_ChBJI/TtvOgKfSWDI/AAAAAAAAAcw/jAgqNWNzaQE/s800/rebelsmilie.gif)

Thank you guys for your lovely wishes! Its getting better now!  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on February 05, 2015, 07:45:37 pm
Right you've had some feely-goods, release pls

Spoiler
For those like james, it's a joke.  :P
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 05, 2015, 08:07:12 pm
Right you've had some feely-goods, release pls

Stop asking for a release, it will come when its ready. All it requires is patience.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 06, 2015, 12:48:27 am
Right you've had some feely-goods, release pls

Spoiler
For those like james, it's a joke.  :P
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lel dat spoiler  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 06, 2015, 03:15:08 pm
It's ready when it's ready.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on February 07, 2015, 03:51:46 am
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latinamericanstudies.org%2Fflags%2Funioncivil-war-flag.gif&hash=2d485bf82207c3c4b13686957fb63d4fe24e8eeb)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 07, 2015, 01:40:16 pm
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F13500000%2FGreat-Britain-Flag-great-britain-13511748-1920-1200.jpg&hash=02cc14e773b98ac0ce4b31faffc1a139b7ca9d8d)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 07, 2015, 02:18:02 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smiley-lol.com%2Fsmiley%2Fvoyages%2Feurope%2Fecosse1.gif&hash=110c7274ec81432a9dc384f4aa69a819707ac4bb)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 07, 2015, 03:52:12 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femoticons%2Fwar%2Fpatrolling-soldier.gif&hash=157e67ef439bd2676753cce40adc53126361ceb8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on February 07, 2015, 11:04:40 pm
DOWN WITH THE EAGLE, UP WITH THE CROSS!
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi652.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu245%2FWMiKe56%2Frebel.gif&hash=b11ad5c4ff5945f3834eed5039ce51e47980117f)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on February 08, 2015, 02:53:16 am
(https://i.imgur.com/lYTS0cl.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 08, 2015, 02:59:03 am
^^^  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on February 08, 2015, 03:23:28 am
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/lYTS0cl.png)
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But who is traitor when american rev, what is truth? Union is lie. Down with the stars and up with the cross, the real cross of old Britannia!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on February 08, 2015, 12:09:27 pm
The Union forever!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 08, 2015, 02:55:36 pm
Ling live the Union regiments of Florida!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on February 08, 2015, 03:54:45 pm
Dixie forever!

Spoiler
http://youtu.be/14rE7F8He3A?t=34s
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 08, 2015, 10:47:31 pm
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 08, 2015, 11:06:17 pm
The Union forever!

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v582kPp43Mg
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tomäus on February 08, 2015, 11:16:20 pm
I want Lager beer and Schnitzel in America! Für den Kaiser!

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/embed/wFwgUVyvkCU
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Frederik on February 08, 2015, 11:29:13 pm
I want Lager beer and Schnitzel in America! Für den Kaiser!

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/embed/wFwgUVyvkCU
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+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on February 08, 2015, 11:29:39 pm
The Union forever!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 08, 2015, 11:31:10 pm
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)

Exactly. LONG LIVE THE UNION!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on February 08, 2015, 11:47:47 pm
That's rich coming from a nation founded with a built in institution of slavery.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on February 08, 2015, 11:52:27 pm
The Union had a plan of industrialism to replace the ways of slavery. For the Union!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on February 08, 2015, 11:57:47 pm
Switzerland has money, so For Switzerland!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nj299 on February 09, 2015, 12:16:24 am
Quote
Our Dixie Forever!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ser Thomas on February 09, 2015, 12:45:37 am
Most neo-confederates are absolutely disgusting people.
Union Forever.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on February 09, 2015, 01:10:05 am
Everyone... everyone. I think you're all forgetting. #Yorkshire forever

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on February 09, 2015, 03:42:35 am
Most neo-confederates are absolutely disgusting people.
Union Forever.

(https://i.imgur.com/lYTS0cl.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on February 09, 2015, 10:44:15 am
DOWN WITH THE EAGLE, UP WITH THE CROSS!
Yess! but to the real cross. Give the South territories to their real owners! The Spanish Kingdom Conquerors!
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-m9xBhNaiZ1M%2FTxSS6Ovn6qI%2FAAAAAAAABT4%2FWVpGodzH-VI%2Fs1600%2FBandera_imperio_espa%2525C3%2525B1ol.png&hash=c04b0538abebdc8ec323c28d63750e96ef8f8792)


xDDDD just kidding
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Julianator1515 on February 09, 2015, 11:20:47 am
For the Union
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on February 09, 2015, 11:42:50 am
Quote
Give the South territories to their real owners! The Spanish Kingdom Conquerors!

Will you give NY back to The Netherlands then? Long live New Amsterdam!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on February 09, 2015, 11:49:17 am
Quote
Give the South territories to their real owners! The Spanish Kingdom Conquerors!

Will you give NY back to The Netherlands then? Long live New Amsterdam!
Pfft nah m8

Spoiler
Frisians omg.  ::)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on February 09, 2015, 07:54:57 pm
Yorkshire will rule them all one day.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 09, 2015, 08:00:41 pm
Yorkshire will rule them all one day.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
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Liverpool*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on February 09, 2015, 11:12:23 pm
Yorkshire will rule them all one day.

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
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Liverpool*

You missspelt "Lancaster"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 11, 2015, 04:49:35 am
That's rich coming from a nation founded with a built in institution of slavery.  :P

This nation was built by business men, statesmen, lawyers, writers, philosophers, and freedom fighters, and don't you forget that. Slavery had its place...but that does not mean it should perpetuate. Many nations practiced slavery, and they subsequently abolished it. We were one of the last.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoiscivilwar.org%2Fcivil_flag.gif&hash=7cddd4b627fb5b880e0dd3ea11245be21719f2a4)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 11, 2015, 09:13:26 am
That's rich coming from a nation founded with a built in institution of slavery.  :P

This nation was built by business men, statesmen, lawyers, writers, philosophers, and freedom fighters, and don't you forget that. Slavery had its place...but that does not mean it should perpetuate. Many nations practiced slavery, and they subsequently abolished it. We were one of the last.
Pity you had to fight a full on Civil War first instead of debating it in Government then voting *cough* UK *cough*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on February 11, 2015, 03:30:15 pm
That's rich coming from a nation founded with a built in institution of slavery.  :P

This nation was built by business men, statesmen, lawyers, writers, philosophers, and freedom fighters, and don't you forget that. Slavery had its place...but that does not mean it should perpetuate. Many nations practiced slavery, and they subsequently abolished it. We were one of the last.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.illinoiscivilwar.org%2Fcivil_flag.gif&hash=7cddd4b627fb5b880e0dd3ea11245be21719f2a4)

MURICA
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 11, 2015, 03:33:43 pm
In regard to:
Spoiler
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)

Exactly. LONG LIVE THE UNION!
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Its amazing that the Sons of the brave revolutionary patriots noticed the tyranny in the American Government, a tyranny so substantial that even their fathers noticed it and foreseen it happening. The legendary Culpepper minutemen, a steeple in the American Revolution believed and fought for the cause of the Confederacy. The men of the south knew a day of tyranny would rise since the days of Thomas Jefferson and later James Buchanan when South Carolina attempted secession then. The Confederacy in a way idolized those of the American Revolution and many will agree their struggle is the same as the Continentals. We kicked the Union out of the South, and the Union invaded (We tried to kick the british out, they sent more). God Bless the Confederacy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Der Canonier on February 11, 2015, 06:06:16 pm
nicemod
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on February 12, 2015, 06:48:28 am
Yorkshire will rule them all one day.

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(https://i.imgur.com/43o62Kv.jpg)
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Liverpool*

You missspelt "Manchester"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 12, 2015, 08:50:54 pm
Just a quick update:

Parrot and me worked hard the last days, we finished some great stuff, we wanted to add. It will be a little suprise for all of you.
Hope this month will bring some more, effective days for the mod :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 12, 2015, 09:22:05 pm
Just a quick update:

Parrot and me worked hard the last days, we finished some great stuff, we wanted to add. It will be a little suprise for all of you.
Hope this month will bring some more, effective days for the mod :)

:D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 12, 2015, 09:52:13 pm
Just a quick update:

Parrot and me worked hard the last days, we finished some great stuff, we wanted to add. It will be a little suprise for all of you.
Hope this month will bring some more, effective days for the mod :)

:D

 :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on February 12, 2015, 10:04:25 pm
Just a quick update:

Parrot and me worked hard the last days, we finished some great stuff, we wanted to add. It will be a little suprise for all of you.
Hope this month will bring some more, effective days for the mod :)

:D

 :)

 ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 13, 2015, 01:42:10 am
Just a quick update:

Parrot and me worked hard the last days, we finished some great stuff, we wanted to add. It will be a little suprise for all of you.
Hope this month will bring some more, effective days for the mod :)
This is me right now...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6A6pMO_WKM
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 13, 2015, 04:04:03 am
In regard to:
Spoiler
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)

Exactly. LONG LIVE THE UNION!
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Its amazing that the Sons of the brave revolutionary patriots noticed the tyranny in the American Government, a tyranny so substantial that even their fathers noticed it and foreseen it happening. The legendary Culpepper minutemen, a steeple in the American Revolution believed and fought for the cause of the Confederacy. The men of the south knew a day of tyranny would rise since the days of Thomas Jefferson and later James Buchanan when South Carolina attempted secession then. The Confederacy in a way idolized those of the American Revolution and many will agree their struggle is the same as the Continentals. We kicked the Union out of the South, and the Union invaded (We tried to kick the british out, they sent more). God Bless the Confederacy.


 You seem to forget where the American Revolution was rooted. It was rooted in New England, and  the north. 500 engagements alone were fought in the state of New Jersey. The south did not have the dominant hand in the patriot cause, but you seem to take only into consideration the "Legendary Culpeper Militia". Are you a farmer? Has industrialization in America hurt you in some way? Why do you argue as if you were a southerner of the period? I argue because I have pride in my nation and i respect the people who lay down their lives for it. I'm grateful this country is together, but all you do is attempt to glorify your ancestors over a war that ripped the nation in two, and left 600,000 American men dead. Excellent.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 13, 2015, 04:31:15 pm
In regard to:
Spoiler
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)

Exactly. LONG LIVE THE UNION!
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Its amazing that the Sons of the brave revolutionary patriots noticed the tyranny in the American Government, a tyranny so substantial that even their fathers noticed it and foreseen it happening. The legendary Culpepper minutemen, a steeple in the American Revolution believed and fought for the cause of the Confederacy. The men of the south knew a day of tyranny would rise since the days of Thomas Jefferson and later James Buchanan when South Carolina attempted secession then. The Confederacy in a way idolized those of the American Revolution and many will agree their struggle is the same as the Continentals. We kicked the Union out of the South, and the Union invaded (We tried to kick the british out, they sent more). God Bless the Confederacy.


 You seem to forget where the American Revolution was rooted. It was rooted in New England, and  the north. 500 engagements alone were fought in the state of New Jersey. The south did not have the dominant hand in the patriot cause, but you seem to take only into consideration the "Legendary Culpeper Militia". Are you a farmer? Has industrialization in America hurt you in some way? Why do you argue as if you were a southerner of the period? I argue because I have pride in my nation and i respect the people who lay down their lives for it. I'm grateful this country is together, but all you do is attempt to glorify your ancestors over a war that ripped the nation in two, and left 600,000 American men dead. Excellent.


You sir are completely right. But I would not fight Confederate States vs Union States, The United States of America is one nation under God, we are United, United We Stand, Divided we fall, Do you all remember what happend in our revolutionary war? People who were thirsty for Freedom and justice united against the Tyranny, and we have won. We the people of the United States. There is no CSA nor Union anymore, this country is United as our founding fathers wanted it to be from the beginning, we needed a war to unite and free the people, but we did it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 13, 2015, 06:15:02 pm
Just a quick update:

Parrot and me worked hard the last days, we finished some great stuff, we wanted to add. It will be a little suprise for all of you.
Hope this month will bring some more, effective days for the mod :)

Huzzah! Long live Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 16, 2015, 08:27:30 am
In regard to:

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In regard to:
Spoiler
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)

Exactly. LONG LIVE THE UNION!
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Its amazing that the Sons of the brave revolutionary patriots noticed the tyranny in the American Government, a tyranny so substantial that even their fathers noticed it and foreseen it happening. The legendary Culpepper minutemen, a steeple in the American Revolution believed and fought for the cause of the Confederacy. The men of the south knew a day of tyranny would rise since the days of Thomas Jefferson and later James Buchanan when South Carolina attempted secession then. The Confederacy in a way idolized those of the American Revolution and many will agree their struggle is the same as the Continentals. We kicked the Union out of the South, and the Union invaded (We tried to kick the british out, they sent more). God Bless the Confederacy.


 You seem to forget where the American Revolution was rooted. It was rooted in New England, and  the north. 500 engagements alone were fought in the state of New Jersey. The south did not have the dominant hand in the patriot cause, but you seem to take only into consideration the "Legendary Culpeper Militia". Are you a farmer? Has industrialization in America hurt you in some way? Why do you argue as if you were a southerner of the period? I argue because I have pride in my nation and i respect the people who lay down their lives for it. I'm grateful this country is together, but all you do is attempt to glorify your ancestors over a war that ripped the nation in two, and left 600,000 American men dead. Excellent.
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I argue it as a man of the period because I believe in my fullest of hearts that the North was wrong, my blood based family had no relatives on the southern side that I am aware of. The true southern cause is a just and righteous one. Any man willing to take arms in defense of their home, any man to stand up to an invading army, any man who feels its his duty to fight for freedom deserves Independence. I believe this for any nation of the world. The Civil War was inescapable but was only postponed.

I have admiration for both sides, and in war its every mans duty to fight bravely and I will not take that away from the yanks. Brave men, young men died for a cause each felt was right, was in God's hands. And could've been avoided if Lincoln just let us be, but granted he had a country to keep. The root of the Northern cause was loss of the agricultural industry and later turned into much more than that. And at one time I believed in the Union, but once I got away from my school history textbook there was so much more to the Southern cause than slavery, yeah its what the politicians, aristocrats and any other rich money grabber wanted hence why its in our Constitution but I believed if we had won the war, slavery wouldn't have existed for much longer. But the South fought in defense and we lasted much longer than anybody would've thought.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 17, 2015, 05:23:44 am
In regard to:

Spoiler
In regard to:
Spoiler
The Confederacy shames the men who fought and died for our independence against Great Britain. We should be thanking God that our great country is still one, and the institution of slavery is well behind us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f0/6e/b6/f06eb623112cb6bf6db1dc5a79f672b3.jpg)

Exactly. LONG LIVE THE UNION!
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Its amazing that the Sons of the brave revolutionary patriots noticed the tyranny in the American Government, a tyranny so substantial that even their fathers noticed it and foreseen it happening. The legendary Culpepper minutemen, a steeple in the American Revolution believed and fought for the cause of the Confederacy. The men of the south knew a day of tyranny would rise since the days of Thomas Jefferson and later James Buchanan when South Carolina attempted secession then. The Confederacy in a way idolized those of the American Revolution and many will agree their struggle is the same as the Continentals. We kicked the Union out of the South, and the Union invaded (We tried to kick the british out, they sent more). God Bless the Confederacy.


 You seem to forget where the American Revolution was rooted. It was rooted in New England, and  the north. 500 engagements alone were fought in the state of New Jersey. The south did not have the dominant hand in the patriot cause, but you seem to take only into consideration the "Legendary Culpeper Militia". Are you a farmer? Has industrialization in America hurt you in some way? Why do you argue as if you were a southerner of the period? I argue because I have pride in my nation and i respect the people who lay down their lives for it. I'm grateful this country is together, but all you do is attempt to glorify your ancestors over a war that ripped the nation in two, and left 600,000 American men dead. Excellent.
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I argue it as a man of the period because I believe in my fullest of hearts that the North was wrong, my blood based family had no relatives on the southern side that I am aware of. The true southern cause is a just and righteous one. Any man willing to take arms in defense of their home, any man to stand up to an invading army, any man who feels its his duty to fight for freedom deserves Independence. I believe this for any nation of the world. The Civil War was inescapable but was only postponed.

I have admiration for both sides, and in war its every mans duty to fight bravely and I will not take that away from the yanks. Brave men, young men died for a cause each felt was right, was in God's hands. And could've been avoided if Lincoln just let us be, but granted he had a country to keep. The root of the Northern cause was loss of the agricultural industry and later turned into much more than that. And at one time I believed in the Union, but once I got away from my school history textbook there was so much more to the Southern cause than slavery, yeah its what the politicians, aristocrats and any other rich money grabber wanted hence why its in our Constitution but I believed if we had won the war, slavery wouldn't have existed for much longer. But the South fought in defense and we lasted much longer than anybody would've thought.

It was not a just cause. The south was simply incapable of adapting to a modern world. The North was changing in the same way Europe was changing. They couldn't accept the greater standard of agricultural trade and technology. They couldn't accept the establishment of industry and their states, and they could not let go of human subjugation. Why should men die for that?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 17, 2015, 06:56:56 am
Lol, thats not true at all. Not even from a Historical perspective. Plus Slavery wasnt full abolished till the 1880's, if Slavery was such a priority for the cause of the war it woulda been handled as quickly as possible after the war. Not another 20+ years.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: regwilliam on February 17, 2015, 08:16:04 am
From the 1860 census done in America there was a total of 3,950,528 slaves in America so yes it 20+ to help them all settle down. P.S That was twice the amount of people living in anyone one state in the south at 1860. Here's the link to it so we don't waste 2 pages arguing about if the numbers that i gave are right or wrong.

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 19, 2015, 05:44:40 pm
Its a while ago now.. but we have some lovely stuff coming up..  ;D
Whats the civil war, without cool posters?!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150219%2F3ywbho2f.jpg&hash=7299a7391132b812830e463483062566e1222d51)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 19, 2015, 05:50:51 pm
Its a while ago now.. but we have some lovely stuff coming up..  ;D
Whats the civil war, without cool posters?!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150219%2F3ywbho2f.jpg&hash=7299a7391132b812830e463483062566e1222d51)

 8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on February 19, 2015, 09:37:17 pm
i love my poster <3  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on February 20, 2015, 03:13:19 am
Brace yourselves, the poster wars shall be coming!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Johann on February 20, 2015, 03:14:07 am
Nice!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 21, 2015, 07:02:03 am
Brace yourselves, the poster wars shall be coming!

I am not a fan of the posters lol, breaks realism with the Youtube and Steam ID's
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 21, 2015, 11:26:46 am
Brace yourselves, the poster wars shall be coming!

I am not a fan of the posters lol, breaks realism with the Youtube and Steam ID's
Let the dev have his fun.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LucasAvis on February 21, 2015, 04:28:53 pm
Brace yourselves, the poster wars shall be coming!

I am not a fan of the posters lol, breaks realism with the Youtube and Steam ID's

Highly agreed. Especially since we would need a hell of a lot of different ones made for everyone's reg, army, youtuber etc...

If they are intended to stay, hope we have a way of deleting them on our own servers...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 21, 2015, 05:31:09 pm
Brace yourselves, the poster wars shall be coming!

I am not a fan of the posters lol, breaks realism with the Youtube and Steam ID's

Highly agreed. Especially since we would need a hell of a lot of different ones made for everyone's reg, army, youtuber etc...

If they are intended to stay, hope we have a way of deleting them on our own servers...

We wouldn't want UA recruitment posters on the DA Server now would we Lucas... :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 21, 2015, 05:38:17 pm
Brace yourselves, the poster wars shall be coming!

I am not a fan of the posters lol, breaks realism with the Youtube and Steam ID's

Highly agreed. Especially since we would need a hell of a lot of different ones made for everyone's reg, army, youtuber etc...

If they are intended to stay, hope we have a way of deleting them on our own servers...

We wouldn't want UA recruitment posters on the DA Server now would we Lucas... :P

Aw, why not? :D XD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on February 21, 2015, 06:02:22 pm
I think the posters are meant to be on public servers on small maps
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 22, 2015, 12:18:37 pm
Highly agreed. Especially since we would need a hell of a lot of different ones made for everyone's reg, army, youtuber etc...
If they are intended to stay, hope we have a way of deleting them on our own servers...

Come on Lucas.. I included posters for people, who deserves it and who helped to get NaS more popular.
Like Chadman is doing videos since 3 years now.. and every player army gets its own poster ingame too.

There is no need to add posters to every regiment. Beside that, its our mod.. I always try to stay neutral and try to get both sides pleased ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on February 23, 2015, 07:39:26 pm
I think it's fine and dynamic. The only thing I don't like is the YouTube symbol in the poster for Chadman, other than that it's fine. And I'd assume posters would be added in the future for groups that somehow contribute majority to the community in some way.

Basically, if posters look realistic and you'd have to read them to know what it represents (ie. Not modern icons that break immersion immediately), it would fit in the mod very nicely.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on February 24, 2015, 09:34:35 am
For some of you, that gentleman is a true hero. You will be able to worship him...  ;D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150224%2F2jahfi43.jpg&hash=527fe45bdc51aedf600d0bf24e60f40d13da1b37)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on February 24, 2015, 09:36:00 am
Ohhhhhhh Yes man!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 24, 2015, 10:23:05 am
Damn... I wonder where the rebs'll be hiding ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 24, 2015, 10:48:58 am
The secret temple of Lee. Where the religion of Leeisum was created.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 24, 2015, 12:57:09 pm
The secret temple of Lee. Where the religion of Leeisum was created.

I'll be in there every Sunday :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on February 24, 2015, 04:42:22 pm
I'm a Yankee patriot and I still consider him a war hero. ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 24, 2015, 05:09:23 pm
I'm a Yankee patriot and I still consider him a war hero. ;)
He was indeed a great general. This is coming from a Yankee.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 24, 2015, 07:01:41 pm
I'm a Yankee patriot and I still consider him a war hero. ;)
In my opinion the greatest man in the Civil War
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: regwilliam on February 24, 2015, 08:27:00 pm
i like lee but would not worship him he caused the war to go on for 4 years and got over a million American's killed. He may not have started the war but he had a chance to end it by working with the union when he was offer command of the north. He choice not to. Does not matter if the man is a hero or pious man he turned his back on his county which he swore a oath to and decided to work for a government that would have continued the EVIL practice of slavery for god knows how long.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 24, 2015, 09:05:14 pm
i like lee but would not worship him he caused the war to go on for 4 years and got over a million American's killed. He may not have started the war but he had a chance to end it by working with the union when he was offer command of the north. He choice not to. Does not matter if the man is a hero or pious man he turned his back on his county which he swore a oath to and decided to work for a government that would have continued the EVIL practice of slavery for god knows how long.

You are looking at it all wrong, you see a man who let a war go on for 4 years, I see a man who let a new Country against all odds survive as long as it could. He turned his back on a country but tried to save his home. Like many Officers, Soldiers and sympathizers he refused to help invade his own lands and instead fought against those who did. It takes bravery to do the things Lee, Jackson, Stuart etc etc and other Civil War heroes did. And most historians approximate slavery would have lasted to the late 1890s. Davis himself gave up the idea of slavery for Status Quo so it may have even been sooner.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 24, 2015, 10:44:19 pm
The hero of a war is not a leader, but the average solder - Me :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on February 24, 2015, 10:54:28 pm
The hero of a war is not a leader, but the average solder - Me :)

Everyone who fought in war :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on February 24, 2015, 10:56:11 pm
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on February 25, 2015, 03:30:18 am
I hope we have some new animations with our new shrine! Cant make a blood sacrifice to Lee without being able to cut a Union heart out! :D But seriously the guy fought on against the Union not for ideological or religious reasons but because he knew the Southern troops needed a leader and he was the man to turn to. Is Adams a traitor for defending the British troops at the Boston Massacre? No he was giving them a fair chance to prove themselves even if they should have been lynched in many peoples minds. Fighting a lost cause isn't evil or cowardly, its necessary to ensure all sides have a chance to prove themselves and even if they lose they can show their commitment and have their opinions felt.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on February 25, 2015, 05:49:59 am
I find it funny when Confederate-sympathizers compare the Confederacy to the Thirteen Colonies.

The States rebelled from English rule because they were being taxed to death across the entire board, because the English troops were allowed immediate housing in American households, and the general misuse of the colonies by the English.

The Confederacy succeeded from the United States/Union because their taxation became overwhelming great due to their outdated farming techniques which were pretty much entirely managed through slavery, which they weren't willing to give up.

I know it likes to be argued by the southern-supporters, but if the United States banned slavery upon its foundation, the Confederacy would have never existed, and it would have never been a problem. That said, things like the KKK would likely have never rose to strength, either, but on the other hand, the United States as a whole would have been comparatively crippled due to the decreased production in farming by slaves.

Is Adams a traitor for defending the British troops at the Boston Massacre? No he was giving them a fair chance to prove themselves even if they should have been lynched in many peoples minds. Fighting a lost cause isn't evil or cowardly, its necessary to ensure all sides have a chance to prove themselves and even if they lose they can show their commitment and have their opinions felt.

Comparing Adams to Lee is a bit of a stretch, lol. Adams was a traitor, I hope you realize, and so was Lee. Both are often considered heroes. Adams led because he was qualified and certainly dedicated enough for the position to lead, and Lee had led near the Potomac for so long simply because Virginia, his home state, had sided with the Confederacy. He was actually more on the side of the Union in ways, and wanted slavery abolished, and was against racism towards blacks, and likely wanted the south industrialized as well, since he preferred the unity of the state.

That said: it takes a brave and dedicated man to lead an army bravely against an enemy he didn't even have anything against.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 25, 2015, 08:17:30 am
The hero of a war is not a leader, but the average solder - Me :)

Everyone who fought in war :)

Yeah! I should'a said that.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on February 25, 2015, 07:46:25 pm
A hero is someone that saves lifes and doesnt take them away.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 25, 2015, 09:33:07 pm
I find it funny when Confederate-sympathizers compare the Confederacy to the Thirteen Colonies.

The States rebelled from English rule because they were being taxed to death across the entire board, because the English troops were allowed immediate housing in American households, and the general misuse of the colonies by the English.

The Confederacy succeeded from the United States/Union because their taxation became overwhelming great due to their outdated farming techniques which were pretty much entirely managed through slavery, which they weren't willing to give up.

I know it likes to be argued by the southern-supporters, but if the United States banned slavery upon its foundation, the Confederacy would have never existed, and it would have never been a problem. That said, things like the KKK would likely have never rose to strength, either, but on the other hand, the United States as a whole would have been comparatively crippled due to the decreased production in farming by slaves.

Is Adams a traitor for defending the British troops at the Boston Massacre? No he was giving them a fair chance to prove themselves even if they should have been lynched in many peoples minds. Fighting a lost cause isn't evil or cowardly, its necessary to ensure all sides have a chance to prove themselves and even if they lose they can show their commitment and have their opinions felt.

Comparing Adams to Lee is a bit of a stretch, lol. Adams was a traitor, I hope you realize, and so was Lee. Both are often considered heroes. Adams led because he was qualified and certainly dedicated enough for the position to lead, and Lee had led near the Potomac for so long simply because Virginia, his home state, had sided with the Confederacy. He was actually more on the side of the Union in ways, and wanted slavery abolished, and was against racism towards blacks, and likely wanted the south industrialized as well, since he preferred the unity of the state.

That said: it takes a brave and dedicated man to lead an army bravely against an enemy he didn't even have anything against.

HEAR HEAR!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 25, 2015, 09:41:28 pm
i like lee but would not worship him he caused the war to go on for 4 years and got over a million American's killed. He may not have started the war but he had a chance to end it by working with the union when he was offer command of the north. He choice not to. Does not matter if the man is a hero or pious man he turned his back on his county which he swore a oath to and decided to work for a government that would have continued the EVIL practice of slavery for god knows how long.

You are looking at it all wrong, you see a man who let a war go on for 4 years, I see a man who let a new Country against all odds survive as long as it could. He turned his back on a country but tried to save his home. Like many Officers, Soldiers and sympathizers he refused to help invade his own lands and instead fought against those who did. It takes bravery to do the things Lee, Jackson, Stuart etc etc and other Civil War heroes did. And most historians approximate slavery would have lasted to the late 1890s. Davis himself gave up the idea of slavery for Status Quo so it may have even been sooner.

You act as if we invaded without pretense; like were some sort of oppressors. We fought to keep this country in one piece. To save it from those that sought to tarnish our history and tear it in two to preserve outdated practices and the subjugation of a human race. If you don't like this country...don't remain hear, because your on Union (American) ground. Make like Davis, dress yourself up like a woman, and catch a boat ride to Europe.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on February 25, 2015, 11:42:33 pm
You act as if we invaded without pretense; like were some sort of oppressors. We fought to keep this country in one piece. To save it from those that sought to tarnish our history and tear it in two to preserve outdated practices and the subjugation of a human race. If you don't like this country...don't remain hear, because your on Union (American) ground. Make like Davis, dress yourself up like a woman, and catch a boat ride to Europe.
Living in a border state I hear this every day with regards to immigrants, "If you don't like the way things are leave!". Is immigration taking jobs away from those who have greater heritage in America, certainly. However saying go away is fundamentally denying humans of the rights granted to them by this very nation, the ability to have a voice in their governing. The debate over slavery had been occurring for years and a point was reached where the president would be from a party founded specifically on an anti-slavery platform. Would as a southerner you not be scared? It didn't matter if you were for slaves or against them the entire economy is going to simply collapse if slavery is outlawed. Its the same as if today the government ordered all oil drilling and refining operations to shut down; you don't have to support oil companies to understand why this would completely destroy certain areas no matter the environmental impact of stopping oil production.

Furthermore the ending of slavery was no great victory for human rights as has been toughed, slavery was becoming less viable and was only being expanded geographically for the political implications. There is absolutely no debate that slavery would not be capable of surviving to the modern day or even a few decades after 1860, it simply was becoming less and less feasible. However what was becoming much more profitable was the exploitation of immigrants, specifically the Irish, in northern factories and sweatshops. Not to defend slavery but 16 hour shifts in a factory while your wife serves as a maid and your children beg and steal on the streets is not much of an improvement over 12 hours of work in the fields all day. Hired bullies ensured workers did not step out of line in their private lives and wages were barely enough to feed and house a family. If industry regulations had been put in place however American factories could never think of competing against their foreign counterparts who could treat their workers as they wished, and a collapse of the factories would destroy Northern life for generations.

When a state consists of separate peoples with differing cultures, beliefs, and ideas conflict occurs, those are just the facts. Vilifying one side for the convenience of the victor is not history, its propaganda, spreading misinformation because its easier than dealing with the truth. Both sides believed their actions were justified and both had solid arguments for why they did what they did. The story of the American Civil is a story of courage and sacrifice by men on both sides fighting to preserve what each had called their own, and while we can stare it from a modern perspective and criticize as we wish and critic worth his salt needs to step into their boots and understand why they fought, not how their actions fit into their own agenda.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 26, 2015, 01:08:51 am
In response to:
Spoiler
i like lee but would not worship him he caused the war to go on for 4 years and got over a million American's killed. He may not have started the war but he had a chance to end it by working with the union when he was offer command of the north. He choice not to. Does not matter if the man is a hero or pious man he turned his back on his county which he swore a oath to and decided to work for a government that would have continued the EVIL practice of slavery for god knows how long.

You are looking at it all wrong, you see a man who let a war go on for 4 years, I see a man who let a new Country against all odds survive as long as it could. He turned his back on a country but tried to save his home. Like many Officers, Soldiers and sympathizers he refused to help invade his own lands and instead fought against those who did. It takes bravery to do the things Lee, Jackson, Stuart etc etc and other Civil War heroes did. And most historians approximate slavery would have lasted to the late 1890s. Davis himself gave up the idea of slavery for Status Quo so it may have even been sooner.

You act as if we invaded without pretense; like were some sort of oppressors. We fought to keep this country in one piece. To save it from those that sought to tarnish our history and tear it in two to preserve outdated practices and the subjugation of a human race. If you don't like this country...don't remain hear, because your on Union (American) ground. Make like Davis, dress yourself up like a woman, and catch a boat ride to Europe.
[close]

No matter the difference in opinions on the War one things has been made true and Winston Churchill said it best: "History is written by the Victors" So instead of continuing the argument, I am going to answer them in a series of quotes from the men themselves.

Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. -General Pat Cleburne, CSA

We protest solemnly in the face of mankind, that we desire peace at any sacrifice, save that of honor. In independence we seek no conquest, no aggrandizement, no concession of any kind from the states with which we have lately been confederated. All we ask is to be let alone – that those who never held power over us shall not now attempt our subjugation by arms. This we will, we must resist to the direst extremity. The moment that this pretension is abandoned, the sword will drop from our grasp, and we shall be ready to enter into treaties of amnesty and commerce that cannot but be mutually beneficial. So long as this pretension is maintained, with a firm reliance on that Divine Power which covers with its protection the just cause, we must continue to struggle for our inherent right to freedom, independence, and self government. President Jefferson Davis' first address to the Confederate Congress

  I tried all in my power to avert this war. I saw it coming, for twelve years I worked night and day to prevent it, but I could not. The North was mad and blind; it would not let us govern ourselves, and so the war came, and now it must go on till the last man of this generation falls in his tracks, and his children seize the musket and fight our battle, unless you acknowledge our right to self government. We are not fighting for slavery. We are fighting for Independence, and that, or extermination. - President Jefferson Davis, Confederate States of America

The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals.  No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and is now assumed to be established. If it really be established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle --- but only in degree --- between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man's ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure.Lysander Spooner (Nineteenth-Century lawyer, abolitionist, entrepreneur)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on February 26, 2015, 02:08:06 am
You act as if we invaded without pretense; like were some sort of oppressors. We fought to keep this country in one piece. To save it from those that sought to tarnish our history and tear it in two to preserve outdated practices and the subjugation of a human race. If you don't like this country...don't remain hear, because your on Union (American) ground. Make like Davis, dress yourself up like a woman, and catch a boat ride to Europe.
Living in a border state I hear this every day with regards to immigrants, "If you don't like the way things are leave!". Is immigration taking jobs away from those who have greater heritage in America, certainly. However saying go away is fundamentally denying humans of the rights granted to them by this very nation, the ability to have a voice in their governing. The debate over slavery had been occurring for years and a point was reached where the president would be from a party founded specifically on an anti-slavery platform. Would as a southerner you not be scared? It didn't matter if you were for slaves or against them the entire economy is going to simply collapse if slavery is outlawed. Its the same as if today the government ordered all oil drilling and refining operations to shut down; you don't have to support oil companies to understand why this would completely destroy certain areas no matter the environmental impact of stopping oil production.

Furthermore the ending of slavery was no great victory for human rights as has been toughed, slavery was becoming less viable and was only being expanded geographically for the political implications. There is absolutely no debate that slavery would not be capable of surviving to the modern day or even a few decades after 1860, it simply was becoming less and less feasible. However what was becoming much more profitable was the exploitation of immigrants, specifically the Irish, in northern factories and sweatshops. Not to defend slavery but 16 hour shifts in a factory while your wife serves as a maid and your children beg and steal on the streets is not much of an improvement over 12 hours of work in the fields all day. Hired bullies ensured workers did not step out of line in their private lives and wages were barely enough to feed and house a family. If industry regulations had been put in place however American factories could never think of competing against their foreign counterparts who could treat their workers as they wished, and a collapse of the factories would destroy Northern life for generations.

When a state consists of separate peoples with differing cultures, beliefs, and ideas conflict occurs, those are just the facts. Vilifying one side for the convenience of the victor is not history, its propaganda, spreading misinformation because its easier than dealing with the truth. Both sides believed their actions were justified and both had solid arguments for why they did what they did. The story of the American Civil is a story of courage and sacrifice by men on both sides fighting to preserve what each had called their own, and while we can stare it from a modern perspective and criticize as we wish and critic worth his salt needs to step into their boots and understand why they fought, not how their actions fit into their own agenda.

I didn't come into this thread praising the Union. I came here responding to those making comments such as "down with the eagle and up with the cross". Like why...why would you say that? Why can't you people just praise America? All you do is come in here and say things like "praise the Confederacy!" "Down with the Union!". What are you doing? What statement are you trying to make? Why not "God Bless America"? The Confederacy no longer exists. Have respect for the country you live in now. Union and CSA aside we all live in The United States of America. Whether those remarks are historical or not they are bad mouthing the country. You don't see northerners driving around with big bumper stickers on their cars with American flags that read "I believe the North was right". The stuff you guys say is just ridiculous and stupid. Now you're just degrading your argument by providing quotes of CSA generals and Jefferson Davis, the president of the CSA. What do you expect from those quotes? And we have you going onto slavery related topics involving different countries. Last I checked were discussing the American Civil War and slavery in America specifically...come on guys.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on February 26, 2015, 02:18:15 am
Alright, I fear this is just going to continue to escalate, let's keep things to North and South, not a North vs. South debate.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on February 26, 2015, 02:31:16 am
Alright, I fear this is just going to continue to escalate, let's keep things to North and South, not a North vs. South debate.
Agreed  ;D This thread is supposed to be about the mod anyway.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on February 26, 2015, 04:31:21 am
Spoiler
You act as if we invaded without pretense; like were some sort of oppressors. We fought to keep this country in one piece. To save it from those that sought to tarnish our history and tear it in two to preserve outdated practices and the subjugation of a human race. If you don't like this country...don't remain hear, because your on Union (American) ground. Make like Davis, dress yourself up like a woman, and catch a boat ride to Europe.
Living in a border state I hear this every day with regards to immigrants, "If you don't like the way things are leave!". Is immigration taking jobs away from those who have greater heritage in America, certainly. However saying go away is fundamentally denying humans of the rights granted to them by this very nation, the ability to have a voice in their governing. The debate over slavery had been occurring for years and a point was reached where the president would be from a party founded specifically on an anti-slavery platform. Would as a southerner you not be scared? It didn't matter if you were for slaves or against them the entire economy is going to simply collapse if slavery is outlawed. Its the same as if today the government ordered all oil drilling and refining operations to shut down; you don't have to support oil companies to understand why this would completely destroy certain areas no matter the environmental impact of stopping oil production.

Furthermore the ending of slavery was no great victory for human rights as has been toughed, slavery was becoming less viable and was only being expanded geographically for the political implications. There is absolutely no debate that slavery would not be capable of surviving to the modern day or even a few decades after 1860, it simply was becoming less and less feasible. However what was becoming much more profitable was the exploitation of immigrants, specifically the Irish, in northern factories and sweatshops. Not to defend slavery but 16 hour shifts in a factory while your wife serves as a maid and your children beg and steal on the streets is not much of an improvement over 12 hours of work in the fields all day. Hired bullies ensured workers did not step out of line in their private lives and wages were barely enough to feed and house a family. If industry regulations had been put in place however American factories could never think of competing against their foreign counterparts who could treat their workers as they wished, and a collapse of the factories would destroy Northern life for generations.

When a state consists of separate peoples with differing cultures, beliefs, and ideas conflict occurs, those are just the facts. Vilifying one side for the convenience of the victor is not history, its propaganda, spreading misinformation because its easier than dealing with the truth. Both sides believed their actions were justified and both had solid arguments for why they did what they did. The story of the American Civil is a story of courage and sacrifice by men on both sides fighting to preserve what each had called their own, and while we can stare it from a modern perspective and criticize as we wish and critic worth his salt needs to step into their boots and understand why they fought, not how their actions fit into their own agenda.

I didn't come into this thread praising the Union. I came here responding to those making comments such as "down with the eagle and up with the cross". Like why...why would you say that? Why can't you people just praise America? All you do is come in here and say things like "praise the Confederacy!" "Down with the Union!". What are you doing? What statement are you trying to make? Why not "God Bless America"? The Confederacy no longer exists. Have respect for the country you live in now. Union and CSA aside we all live in The United States of America. Whether those remarks are historical or not they are bad mouthing the country. You don't see northerners driving around with big bumper stickers on their cars with American flags that read "I believe the North was right". The stuff you guys say is just ridiculous and stupid. Now you're just degrading your argument by providing quotes of CSA generals and Jefferson Davis, the president of the CSA. What do you expect from those quotes? And we have you going onto slavery related topics involving different countries. Last I checked were discussing the American Civil War and slavery in America specifically...come on guys.
[close]

Instead of me trying to respond in my own words its easier to use quotes of the southern men of the past to explain what their thoughts on the matters are and how they knew the US would treat the rebellion. You see us as traitors, see us as back stabbers, see us as evil whip wielding slave owners. All these views cloud the reasons we went to war in the first place. The question is if you didn't live in America would you still look upon the Civil War as such? I mean I wasn't born in the South, I read the same history books as everyone else. I took time to research on my own and I found so much more than any School Textbook will show ya. Through that, thats how I found my support of the Southern Cause.

If [the Declaration of Independence] justifies the secession from the British empire of 3,000,000 of colonists in 1776, we do not see why it would not justify the secession of 5,000,000 of Southrons from the Federal Union in 1861.New York Tribune, December 17, 1860

But yes, 1.0 looks so great. Hinkel has a steam screenshot of like a Cabin and windmill on a farm thats to die for. :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on February 26, 2015, 08:08:25 am
So many paragraphs and words! But yes, we should stick to topic.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on February 26, 2015, 08:20:34 am
Mercia everywhere
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on February 26, 2015, 10:27:32 am
too much english for a spanish...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on February 26, 2015, 02:10:05 pm
Mercia everywhere

Yeah...Mercia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercia)...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on February 26, 2015, 04:41:11 pm
Mercia everywhere

Yeah...Mercia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercia)...
The fail is real
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on March 02, 2015, 01:54:32 am
Does anyone here know of or have access to any files that changes the mesh of the grasses in the game? I hate how the tall grass contrasts so drastically with the dark ground.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on March 02, 2015, 01:58:22 am
Does anyone here know of or have access to any files that changes the mesh of the grasses in the game? I hate how the tall grass contrasts so drastically with the dark ground.
In Textures:
ground1.dds
ground_path.dds
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 03, 2015, 03:28:38 pm
General Joseph E. Johnston is ready to take command of the Army of the Shenendoah :)

Thanks to Parrot as always!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150303%2Fij25htsp.jpg&hash=ea15d68a795fa3f689103fa47a825e60b5246979)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on March 03, 2015, 03:31:03 pm
needs a tad less of the cheeck slider, otherwise great stuff.  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on March 03, 2015, 03:31:33 pm
Awesome :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on March 03, 2015, 03:46:03 pm
Thanks to Parrot as always!

You did the uniform, I only made his balding head :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 03, 2015, 04:23:42 pm
Nice!!! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 03, 2015, 04:47:09 pm
Army staff now includes multiple generals? :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 03, 2015, 05:07:11 pm
Army staff now includes multiple generals? :o

When did you play last time?

Since 0.4, there is a High Command Unit with:

Staff Guard
Signal Operator
Brigadier General
Major General

So multible generals to choose..

1.0 will add even more generals, like the historical generals, with own faces and such.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 03, 2015, 05:13:28 pm
I meant more historical generals. :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 03, 2015, 05:49:05 pm
Army staff now includes multiple generals? :o

When did you play last time?

Since 0.4, there is a High Command Unit with:

Staff Guard
Signal Operator
Brigadier General
Major General

So multible generals to choose..

1.0 will add even more generals, like the historical generals, with own faces and such.

I hope we see Stonewall Jackson  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 03, 2015, 06:06:25 pm
I hope we see Stonewall Jackson  :D

No, he is already in, if you choose the brigadier general as the CSA.. there you have his uniform at least. He won't be in as a unit itself, just the commanders.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 03, 2015, 07:18:20 pm
Looking forwards to this more and more!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 03, 2015, 07:33:32 pm
Looking forwards to this more and more!


+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 03, 2015, 07:36:14 pm
Looking forwards to this more and more!


+1

+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on March 03, 2015, 08:54:16 pm
Ulysses S. Grant fighting Robert E. Lee please  ;D

If the Presidents can fight it out why not the Generals?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTFP90Pyja4

Classic video that is

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 03, 2015, 09:28:57 pm
Is that during a line battle? 'Cos that's bloody funny!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on March 05, 2015, 01:53:30 am
Looking forwards to this more and more!


+1

+1000
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 05, 2015, 11:20:50 am
Who need generals? :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 05, 2015, 11:25:39 am
We are currently looking for 2 Mappers, who would like to make / remake some maps of the mod. Since we added lot of new map props and changed the overall look of the landscape, many maps have to be remade.

Any skilled mappers in your regiments?! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 05, 2015, 11:41:26 am
Do you accept a new mapper, who wants to get better and help the Mod? :P
If not i don't care xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Gummi Wolf on March 05, 2015, 06:29:33 pm
Official map maker for the 32nd. Contact me on steam.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Gumowy_Wilk/
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on March 06, 2015, 04:32:33 am
The 26th has an army of amateur mappers at your disposable Hinkel. We shall follow your orders to the line o7
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 06, 2015, 04:29:53 pm
The union is winning by one vote!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 06, 2015, 06:41:42 pm
Union won in the voting!!  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 06, 2015, 07:04:43 pm
General Joseph E. Johnston is ready to take command of the Army of the Shenendoah :)

Thanks to Parrot as always!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150303%2Fij25htsp.jpg&hash=ea15d68a795fa3f689103fa47a825e60b5246979)

GG

I'm expect it will be free to every player to have acess to this, also maybe we may see a Stonewall Jackson too
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 06, 2015, 07:23:06 pm
Out of curiosity (the bit Kiyoshi said about accessing J.E.J. made me interested), how exactly would regiments with unlockable units get access to them? There's a code, apparently, right? So is that entered in the main menu, the character creation screen, actually in battles, or is it like an alternative to logging into a server with an admin password, that instead gives you the unit?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on March 06, 2015, 08:37:04 pm
General Joseph E. Johnston is ready to take command of the Army of the Shenendoah :)

Thanks to Parrot as always!

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150303%2Fij25htsp.jpg&hash=ea15d68a795fa3f689103fa47a825e60b5246979)

very jealous of the ripples and bump maps.  >:(

Will Hood be added? Texas Brigade best Brigade
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 08, 2015, 07:45:27 am
I hope we see Stonewall Jackson  :D

No, he is already in, if you choose the brigadier general as the CSA.. there you have his uniform at least. He won't be in as a unit itself, just the commanders.

PGT Beauregard will look dashing I hope :D Also if you are doing the commanders of First Manassas, will the Union commanders like Irvin McDowell or Robert Patterson be umong these custom Generals?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 08, 2015, 08:02:13 am
PGT Beauregard will look dashing I hope :D Also if you are doing the commanders of First Manassas, will the Union commanders like Irvin McDowell or Robert Patterson be umong these custom Generals?

The Army of Potomac is not ingame, so no Beauregard.

General McDowell will be in of course :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 08, 2015, 03:36:00 pm
PGT Beauregard will look dashing I hope :D Also if you are doing the commanders of First Manassas, will the Union commanders like Irvin McDowell or Robert Patterson be umong these custom Generals?

The Army of Potomac is not ingame, so no Beauregard.

General McDowell will be in of course :)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

No PGT Beauregard

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 08, 2015, 03:58:52 pm
PGT Beauregard will look dashing I hope :D Also if you are doing the commanders of First Manassas, will the Union commanders like Irvin McDowell or Robert Patterson be umong these custom Generals?

The Army of Potomac is not ingame, so no Beauregard.

General McDowell will be in of course :)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

No PGT Beauregard

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT

^ P.G.T 4 lyfe
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 08, 2015, 09:01:03 pm
PGT Beauregard will look dashing I hope :D Also if you are doing the commanders of First Manassas, will the Union commanders like Irvin McDowell or Robert Patterson be umong these custom Generals?

The Army of Potomac is not ingame, so no Beauregard.

General McDowell will be in of course :)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

No PGT Beauregard

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT

^ P.G.T 4 lyfe

: (

>6 months waiting for the mod
>almost released
>noticed that there will be no PGT Beauregard
>that_feel.jpg
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 08, 2015, 09:35:57 pm
You can always make your own General Beauregarde.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 08, 2015, 10:59:57 pm
^^ Some people done realise how hard this is, and that they're doing this for FREE.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 09, 2015, 04:08:26 am
NO BEAUREGARD?! THAN WHAT'S THE POINT OF PLAAAYING THIIIIS

seriously fuck off with that shit mate
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 09, 2015, 11:27:33 am
At least you guys have the very famous Mister Irvin McDowell...  ;D
He had a bit of a weight problem..

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150309%2Fv2ux5peq.jpg&hash=05eaed1df8d2734bf4a61a1bbb350308a8acd2ba)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 09, 2015, 11:38:15 am
Dayum, he looks lovely!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 09, 2015, 12:56:31 pm
I will enjoy an other unit ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 09, 2015, 07:50:14 pm
^^ Some people done realise how hard this is, and that they're doing this for FREE.

Kinda missing the point lol, he said commanders and he is witholding Mr.Beaureguard lol. And its not that its hard or difficult, he is just adding the Commanders of each army featured in game. If he had the other two armies the other two Generals would be in the game I'm sure :D

You can always make your own General Beauregarde.

And many probably will lol Isnt very difficult just make a slim face and a nice goatee.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 09, 2015, 09:51:29 pm
(https://lh4.ggpht.com/u32O46W4k5GDfpkS23hIq_QJxZBIiVFbnXN12n74-y56K9IbpoQ7EMlBszDILLmNkA=w300)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 10, 2015, 12:12:51 am
You can always make your own General Beauregarde.

And many probably will lol Isnt very difficult just make a slim face and a nice goatee.

Yes, and if they want the uniform, either they, or someone, kindly asked by "they", will do it.

No need to get frustrated about it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 10, 2015, 05:59:48 pm
2-Rank Linebattle event of last saturday. I want to see more line battles like those... with 2 ranks, flags, musicians and such ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoaQrEwUaw
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 10, 2015, 06:40:26 pm
2-Rank Linebattle event of last saturday. I want to see more line battles like those... with 2 ranks, flags, musicians and such ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoaQrEwUaw

Ooh, fancy, something to watch tonight!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 10, 2015, 11:11:00 pm
2-Rank Linebattle event of last saturday. I want to see more line battles like those... with 2 ranks, flags, musicians and such ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoaQrEwUaw

I agree, it would be very fun.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on March 11, 2015, 07:03:15 am
2-Rank Linebattle event of last saturday. I want to see more line battles like those... with 2 ranks, flags, musicians and such ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoaQrEwUaw

Ooh, fancy, something to watch tonight!
That's me Chadman is playing drums with at the end!  ;D He also got me a shoutout telling everyone to vote for me as president. :o Too bad there was no battlebush...    :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 11, 2015, 03:52:46 pm
2-Rank Linebattle event of last saturday. I want to see more line battles like those... with 2 ranks, flags, musicians and such ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoaQrEwUaw

Ooh, fancy, something to watch tonight!
That's me Chadman is playing drums with at the end!  ;D He also got me a shoutout telling everyone to vote for me as president. :o Too bad there was no battlebush...    :(
I'm the guy next to him with the USSS banner  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 12, 2015, 02:58:32 am
I started with the Bonnie Blue and just kept going :D

(https://i.imgur.com/JbRPyl0.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 12, 2015, 03:39:03 am
Please make Civil War balls a thing!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 12, 2015, 05:14:08 am
Please make Civil War balls a thing!

I should lol, make some Civil War Polandball comics :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on March 12, 2015, 01:23:46 pm
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.makeagif.com%2Fmedia%2F3-12-2015%2FriZ4p5.gif&hash=3fb57236ad4f6a05c7e3d8c808b31f936ea69807)
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Muh Gifdoms.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 12, 2015, 09:15:12 pm
Please make Civil War balls a thing!

I should lol, make some Civil War Polandball comics :D

Yes do it pls! xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 13, 2015, 07:22:48 am
Please make Civil War balls a thing!

I should lol, make some Civil War Polandball comics :D

Yes do it pls! xD

I did it, its my first one so I will admit its a bit rough. And it seems I am gonna have to remake it since the balls are supposed to be "Hand Drawn" so it may be better the 2nd time when I add more things to it. But here ya guys go :D

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(https://i.imgur.com/BCg57qp.png)
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Also if people write up some scripts and PM them to me I will make it a comic for you :) As long as they aren't offensive and too long
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on March 13, 2015, 08:39:31 am
wondered where South Carolina was in the first picture  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 13, 2015, 09:11:33 am
Looks like we're going to need a thread for these :D Looking great.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 13, 2015, 09:20:05 am
This is so lovely polar!! :D :D
I love those small details, like the monocal for the brit or that south carolina started with the Bonnie Blue Flag :)
But I think some of the state flags weren't used in 1861 ;)

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 13, 2015, 09:40:34 am
Polarbeats: i give a 10000/10 rate for your countryball comic
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 13, 2015, 01:25:22 pm
Wow mate, make an own thread for that comics ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on March 13, 2015, 02:28:22 pm
It's not your typical, upbeat Civil War music and it's patchy in areas but this fella does some pretty nice Civil War style music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1leEFhY4HI
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 13, 2015, 02:45:52 pm
Really nice music.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 13, 2015, 06:33:42 pm
Wow mate, make an own thread for that comics ^^

I may do that

Polarbeats: i give a 10000/10 rate for your countryball comic

<3 thanks

This is so lovely polar!! :D :D
I love those small details, like the monocal for the brit or that south carolina started with the Bonnie Blue Flag :)
But I think some of the state flags weren't used in 1861 ;)

You are right, but it helps identify who everyone is. I used the flags each state succeeded with. I couldnt find Arkansas so I used a unofficial varient. But its all in good fun, the transition South Carolina was important to me to try and capture :D But South Carolina wont remain the Bonnie Blue and the Bonnie Blue will appear by itself later.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on March 14, 2015, 12:04:37 am
Private Youngwolf of the 26th North Carolina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iqZEL_lQhGc

A fiddle would make the game a bit more lively dont ya think ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 14, 2015, 12:41:13 am
I think the violin won't be added for the same reason banjos won't be added. :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 14, 2015, 01:31:54 am
I wish the banjo was added, so I could play Camptown Races, Bonnie Blue Flag, and Dixie, and the rest.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 14, 2015, 01:40:49 am
New York Volunteer. ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 14, 2015, 11:50:50 am
Dixie Music > Yankee Music
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 14, 2015, 12:37:20 pm
Although I'm more of a Union person, Confederate music sounds better.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 14, 2015, 01:01:13 pm
I am a fan of irish civil war music, like that lovely piece I found. The List of Generals, performed by my freind David Kincaid!
The Irish, also most of the Union Army, was a fan of Little Mac.. General McClellan that is. But well, he wasnt a Lincoln man so he was dismissed .. he did very well with the Army of the Potomac  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECt3zSOCic4

Lyrics

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Since first the dirty Southern traitors, this foul Secession War began,
Whin all them treacherous alligators, comminced the row at Charleston,
Columbia's flag--the Star of Freedom--still has ruled on land and say;
Fools may rave, but never heed them--to bate our foes we know the way.
Chorus--Whack, fal de ral, etc.

Volunteers we have by thousands, ginerals trusty, true, and brave;
For the union they arouse, and all would die our flag to save.
Butler down at New Orleans, he kept the rebel host at bay;
On them there to draw the reins, he quickly showed he knew the way.
Chorus--Whack, fal de ral, etc.

Gallant Meade, a hero truly, at Gettysburg the foe met he;
And there he gave them Ballyhooly--Oh, how are you, General Lee?
Rosecrans, a soldier thorough--that's a fact none can gainsay--
The rebels met at Murfreesboro, to rout them there he knew the way.
Chorus--Whack, fal de ral, etc.

Little Sigel, for the Germans, he has bravely stood the test;
Dix and Banks, Burnside and Sherman, all have nobly done their best.
Gineral Meagher has shown his mettle, Corcoran, too, was in the fray;
The foes of Uncle Sam to settle, the Irish boys they know the way.
Chorus--Whack, fal de ral, etc.

Thin there's Gineral Daniel Sickles, from the field ne'er stirs a peg,
The foes catastrophe he tickles--gallant Dan has lost a leg
Gineral grant he gives them thunder; at Vicksburg he won the day;
Then to make the foe knock under, at Chattanooga, knew the way.
Chorus--Whack, fal de ral, etc.

But to call the list of fame, I haven't room now in my song;
For, to go through each Gineral's name, 'twould keep me singing all night long.
But of one more I'll will be telling, and who should be restored straightway,
To put and end to this rebellion--Little Mac he knows the way.
Chorus--Whack, fal de ral, etc.
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 14, 2015, 01:30:30 pm
Ooh, I love David Kincaid! I like Irish civil war music too.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 14, 2015, 03:00:54 pm
Yea, that is awesome song! I like Irish Civil war songs too, I mean they are unique in good way, they are full with spirit, happiness, etc, but there are other songs too with it but they are awesome! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on March 14, 2015, 03:15:41 pm
I like Irish civil war music too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWvdf_51Iq0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 14, 2015, 03:49:23 pm
Dixie Music > Yankee Music
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on March 14, 2015, 04:12:37 pm
Got to love Irish Civil war music.

My favorite:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrB8SuPnXh0
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 14, 2015, 04:13:50 pm
I prefer thr Union version of "Battle Cry of Freedom" though  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 14, 2015, 04:50:51 pm
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECt3zSOCic4
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Wow, an eight string guitar that sounds good!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on March 14, 2015, 05:26:27 pm
Even tho I think Confederate songs are superior by far, there are some good songs both sides sang with the same lyrics.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-y6cCY2yWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUpHiqpqmZQ
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 14, 2015, 05:52:12 pm
Possibly one of the best in my opinion :)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfK_aSGZFwo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on March 16, 2015, 02:08:01 am
can't wait for the update  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 16, 2015, 02:47:58 pm
can't wait for the update  ;D

+1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 16, 2015, 03:03:40 pm
can't wait for the update  ;D

+1 !  8)
Those lazy devs should hurry up...  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on March 16, 2015, 03:05:05 pm
can't wait for the update  ;D

+1 !  8)
Those lazy devs should hurry up...  :P
isn't the saying wait and you shall receive? ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 16, 2015, 03:15:31 pm
Depends on how determined and dedicated Hinkel is ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 16, 2015, 11:14:38 pm
Depends on how determined and dedicated Hinkel is ;)

Hinkel as a leader must not carry his hole dev team under his back, he have to do the job WITH them!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 16, 2015, 11:17:38 pm
Well, I didn't want to show.. but bit of a tease again :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150316%2Fwavwhrxu.jpg&hash=47bd1204c8c3012ab14091581150d11ac093b4da)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on March 16, 2015, 11:21:14 pm
might get all my kiddie staff to go as drummer boys ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on March 16, 2015, 11:26:58 pm
Let me drum too :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on March 17, 2015, 06:49:27 am
Well, I didn't want to show.. but bit of a tease again :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150316%2Fwavwhrxu.jpg&hash=47bd1204c8c3012ab14091581150d11ac093b4da)
F*ck yes! Finally actual drummer BOYS. Is there only 1 face texture for them, tho? Something nice would also be a new drumming animation.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 17, 2015, 08:00:52 am
Nice! Young drummers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 17, 2015, 12:48:15 pm
Well, I didn't want to show.. but bit of a tease again :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150316%2Fwavwhrxu.jpg&hash=47bd1204c8c3012ab14091581150d11ac093b4da)

McDowell's intentions do not seem genuine with said drummer boy...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 17, 2015, 04:17:21 pm
Well, I didn't want to show.. but bit of a tease again :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150316%2Fwavwhrxu.jpg&hash=47bd1204c8c3012ab14091581150d11ac093b4da)

This remembered me a funny scene xD
Watch at 1:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99zEVGUBpR0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 17, 2015, 06:54:06 pm
Ah, yes, I love that scene so much!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 17, 2015, 07:30:32 pm
I was thinking about if will the cadets regiment have a diferent stature than the rest? Like that young musician.

Im talking about this:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/bT8yX4j.jpg?2)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on March 17, 2015, 07:31:47 pm
Spoiler
Well, I didn't want to show.. but bit of a tease again :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150316%2Fwavwhrxu.jpg&hash=47bd1204c8c3012ab14091581150d11ac093b4da)
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The drummer looks like he's got leukemia easy fix tho. Was thinking of doing this in WaT but I didn't think anyone would want to be a child. Looks better then that piece of shit VK Con :') man children.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on March 18, 2015, 06:42:04 am
I was thinking about if will the cadets regiment have a diferent stature than the rest? Like that young musician.

Im talking about this:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/bT8yX4j.jpg?2)
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Wouldn't really make too much sense... The cadets were fully grown young adults anywhere from 16-20 years old. Most of them had reached average "adult" height.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 18, 2015, 04:21:12 pm
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/bT8yX4j.jpg?2)
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Now I must admit, being a man of the south my knowledge on the VMI is very poor, but whats the difference in the Uniform style above for 1.0 versus the ones in like the youtube video mercuri posted that are simular to their Parade Uniforms or more like the VMI Cadets in Gods and Generals?

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99zEVGUBpR0
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_RwpDy8LTtFs%2FTH3kZNSDlcI%2FAAAAAAAAANA%2FBmYsWIZFP-c%2Fs1600%2Fryan%2B15b.jpg&hash=db8d4a6d97a47a0daa049d6e5a7f570d4fe6db6b)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 18, 2015, 06:01:58 pm
Parade and cadet jackets for upcoming officers :)
I added a more common uniform jacket, without those piping and buttons. More of a campaign style uniform.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 18, 2015, 06:19:53 pm
Parade and cadet jackets for upcoming officers :)
I added a more common uniform jacket, without those piping and buttons. More of a campaign style uniform.

You're the man :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 18, 2015, 09:59:34 pm
What are drummer boy hitboxes like?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on March 18, 2015, 10:36:55 pm
What are drummer boy hitboxes like?
lel. Just thougt of that. They'll be like ninjas!  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on March 18, 2015, 11:03:12 pm
Just look at that war in Ukraine huh
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 18, 2015, 11:04:58 pm
Just look at that war in Ukraine huh

"Comrade Ivan, I cannot of shoot into Ukrainian child, he is of too small!"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on March 18, 2015, 11:06:01 pm
Just look at that war in Ukraine huh

"Comrade Ivan, I cannot of shoot into Ukrainian child, he is of too small!"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 19, 2015, 11:14:46 am
Now I must admit, being a man of the south my knowledge on the VMI is very poor, but whats the difference in the Uniform style above for 1.0 versus the ones in like the youtube video mercuri posted that are simular to their Parade Uniforms or more like the VMI Cadets in Gods and Generals?


Better that way? :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150319%2Fptx3bvx9.jpg&hash=97fe42723458a378df66891203783f71d3c19d34)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 19, 2015, 11:24:46 am
Bloody marvellous!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 19, 2015, 12:29:28 pm
I think their battle uniform was like this:

Spoiler
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fc/33/f9/fc33f998a9859a7cf3bfd815236d7ed9.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on March 19, 2015, 12:40:54 pm
Why not just have generic cadets as a unit? Would be more flexible for clans.
Spoiler
Not sure if this is accurate uniform wise.  :P
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZKxXNzjfPk[/youtube]
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 19, 2015, 12:50:29 pm
I think their battle uniform was like this:

Spoiler
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fc/33/f9/fc33f998a9859a7cf3bfd815236d7ed9.jpg)
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Thats the 1864 dress. At Manassas, most of them used their actual cadet uniforms. Notice the other soldiers of the Virginia Greys (with blue kepis), they were commanded by VMI cadets that day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxX4Bo6yG38&t=20

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150319%2Futnoxxml.jpg&hash=cce651925362da9b93cbe0f88d024d6365d10e50)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 20, 2015, 12:16:43 am
Now I must admit, being a man of the south my knowledge on the VMI is very poor, but whats the difference in the Uniform style above for 1.0 versus the ones in like the youtube video mercuri posted that are simular to their Parade Uniforms or more like the VMI Cadets in Gods and Generals?


Better that way? :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150319%2Fptx3bvx9.jpg&hash=97fe42723458a378df66891203783f71d3c19d34)

One hell of a movie, one of the best Civil War based movies that explains the plight of the Confederate cause from both Confederate and Union views.

and its a lot better yeah :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on March 20, 2015, 05:45:36 am
Sorry if I did not pick up on this before but will there be any quick loading repeaters like the Henry or Spencer rifle?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 20, 2015, 07:59:13 am
Sorry if I did not pick up on this before but will there be any quick loading repeaters like the Henry or Spencer rifle?

Nope.. looking back on all that trouble with the colt rifle, I won't add any repeaters ever..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 20, 2015, 08:09:53 am
I've never liked repeaters in-game, because people always pick them because you don't have to reload after however many rounds. Just like in Wilhelm's Anglo Zulu War Reloaded mod, people always picking the Boer class so they can use the repeaters, it takes the fun away.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 20, 2015, 10:08:30 am
+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on March 20, 2015, 09:22:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMts6brv4c

The latest video posted by War of Rights, I like to believe Hinkel isn't in it because he wouldn't soil himself with a Union uniform and was too busy marching on Washington.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 20, 2015, 11:29:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjj87HzEpus

Also the WoR's new shooting animation is beyond belief!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 20, 2015, 11:50:20 pm
Pinkies out!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on March 21, 2015, 02:23:44 pm
That WoR video oh my god amazing!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 21, 2015, 02:48:23 pm
Bloody lovely! I like the pinkie finger at the end :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 21, 2015, 03:02:30 pm
Bloody lovely! I like the pinkie finger at the end :)

The Pinky was used in the correct military drill of arms. So its not just a gimmick, but its an authentic feature :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 21, 2015, 03:40:36 pm
"PINKIES OUT I SAID REEEEEEEEEEE" -Captain Cesare Osnaghi of the 39thNY

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F914%2F706%2F461.png&hash=bb0f3e38769e9744d2f89280a9aa9f43e6d9a2b4)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on March 22, 2015, 07:18:43 am
Cant wait for WoR and BCoF both games look amazing thanks WoR for keeping us updated on everything but BCoF no update for 6 mo uh ok then........ ??? ??? ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 22, 2015, 11:58:19 am
Cant wait for WoR and BCoF both games look amazing thanks WoR for keeping us updated on everything but BCoF no update for 6 mo uh ok then........ ??? ??? ::)

Hinkel has nothing at all to do with BCoF
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 22, 2015, 04:46:54 pm
WoR looks really better imo...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 22, 2015, 05:36:52 pm
Yesterdays UA Line-Battle event. The organisation was great! :)

3 line battles were played simultany. More then 500 guys played NaS during that time, great! :D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150322%2Fn4mzi6f7.jpg&hash=743dd26e543110092c04feb63db05e0a3c5cde97)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150322%2F3fxjjj78.jpg&hash=6120b3acb58ffec4052c96fa6f1f3bd674655542)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on March 22, 2015, 05:51:20 pm
Yesterdays UA Line-Battle event. The organisation was great! :)

3 line battles were played simultany. More then 500 guys played NaS during that time, great! :D

And i believe that the Union Army supplied about 300 members a cross all 3 servers ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 22, 2015, 06:45:34 pm
WHY COULDN'T I HAVE BEEN THERE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 22, 2015, 08:13:41 pm
150th Anniversery of the Surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia - April 9th, 1865

The Battle of Appomattox Court House, fought on the morning of April 9, 1865, was one of the last battles of the American Civil War. It was the final engagement of Confederate Army General Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia before it surrendered to the Union Army under Lt. Gen. Ulysses S. Grant.
[...]
Lee received the reply within an hour and dispatched an aide, Charles Marshall, to find a suitable location for the occasion. Marshall scrutinized Appomattox Court House, a small village of roughly twenty buildings that served as a waystation for travelers on the Richmond-Lynchburg Stage Road. Marshall rejected the first house he saw as too dilapidated, instead settling on the 1848 brick home of Wilmer McLean. McLean had lived near Manassas Junction during the First Battle of Bull Run, and had retired to Appomattox to escape the war.


What could that mean to you?  8)

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 22, 2015, 08:17:54 pm
Yesterdays UA Line-Battle event. The organisation was great! :)

3 line battles were played simultany. More then 500 guys played NaS during that time, great! :D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150322%2Fn4mzi6f7.jpg&hash=743dd26e543110092c04feb63db05e0a3c5cde97)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150322%2F3fxjjj78.jpg&hash=6120b3acb58ffec4052c96fa6f1f3bd674655542)

Nice view, unfortunally they are blue bellies
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 22, 2015, 08:54:42 pm
*gasp* april 9 hl3 confirm
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on March 22, 2015, 10:10:25 pm
Cant wait for WoR and BCoF both games look amazing thanks WoR for keeping us updated on everything but BCoF no update for 6 mo uh ok then........ ??? ??? ::)

Hinkel has nothing at all to do with BCoF
Yes i know this lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on March 22, 2015, 11:56:13 pm
There are also some new animations going into the mod! Check out this new one for officers:

(https://i.imgur.com/as2aqud.gif)

Remember that it's slower in game than is shown here, and as a result looks more natural.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on March 23, 2015, 12:20:25 am
That'll be me <3
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 23, 2015, 12:23:33 am
There are also some new animations going into the mod! Check out this new one for officers:

(https://i.imgur.com/as2aqud.gif)

Remember that it's slower in game than is shown here, and as a result looks more natural.

Nice!!!!! That actually looks awesome :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 23, 2015, 06:18:43 am
I've been looking at some sharpshooter stuff and I wish we still had our beloved Sharps rifle. Too bad people's jimmies would be russled  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on March 23, 2015, 11:54:11 am
There are also some new animations going into the mod! Check out this new one for officers:

(https://i.imgur.com/as2aqud.gif)

Remember that it's slower in game than is shown here, and as a result looks more natural.

Looks very nice indeed. Can't wait to see some of the other new animations.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 24, 2015, 02:41:55 am
By any chance, has anyone seen "Field of Lost Shoes?" It's an ACW movie about the VMI cadets I believe. If anyone has, thoughts on it?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Devmc99 on March 24, 2015, 02:45:03 am
I saw it. Tbh, I thought it was pretty terrible. When they were at the battle of New Market, a cannon ball hit smack in the middle of the VMI cadets line. The middle of the line fell down where the cannon ball hit, then they stood back up like it was nothing....
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 24, 2015, 02:49:25 am
I saw it. Tbh, I thought it was pretty terrible. When they were at the battle of New Market, a cannon ball hit smack in the middle of the VMI cadets line. The middle of the line fell down where the cannon ball hit, then they stood back up like it was nothing....
I saw a portion of the battle on YouTube, when the cannon ball hit, almost everyone in the middle fell. Don't know for sure if that would have happened IRL...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on March 24, 2015, 02:57:22 am
Yo dawg.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 24, 2015, 05:52:16 am
Cant wait to see 1.0 I've been playing a lot of N&S recently and some new content will be appreciated.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 24, 2015, 02:18:15 pm
By any chance, has anyone seen "Field of Lost Shoes?" It's an ACW movie about the VMI cadets I believe. If anyone has, thoughts on it?

I saw it, it was pretty good movie.I find it it was a good movie and it was realistic too I liked it. After the movie I'm wanting to go to the VMI lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on March 24, 2015, 05:44:25 pm
By any chance, has anyone seen "Field of Lost Shoes?" It's an ACW movie about the VMI cadets I believe. If anyone has, thoughts on it?

it's awful

http://www.thevideo.me/32el3drvgbzt
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on March 24, 2015, 10:14:49 pm
By any chance, has anyone seen "Field of Lost Shoes?" It's an ACW movie about the VMI cadets I believe. If anyone has, thoughts on it?

it's awful

http://www.thevideo.me/32el3drvgbzt


Yeap,honestly I think the best American Civil War movie is the "Gods and Generals" trilogy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 24, 2015, 10:38:08 pm
Quote
Yeap,honestly I think the best American Civil War movie is the "Gods and Generals" trilogy.

Does anyone have a link of where to watch this? If so it would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 24, 2015, 10:42:55 pm
Quote
Yeap,honestly I think the best American Civil War movie is the "Gods and Generals" trilogy.

Does anyone have a link of where to watch this? If so it would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12yt88_gods-generals-1-6_shortfilms

here you go.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 24, 2015, 11:52:35 pm
Thank you!  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 25, 2015, 12:11:42 am
np, have fun  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: EdwardC on March 25, 2015, 01:40:01 am
Thank you!  ;D

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 25, 2015, 11:11:57 am
good film, dificult to find in spanish, but I got it ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 25, 2015, 11:25:54 am
Made a random group picture...  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150325%2Fp9iz67ht.jpg&hash=134168c3a9f13c1cb9d897de1934883ac29319c2)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on March 25, 2015, 12:40:59 pm
TeamSecession2
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on March 25, 2015, 01:53:04 pm
Made a random group picture...  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150325%2Fp9iz67ht.jpg&hash=134168c3a9f13c1cb9d897de1934883ac29319c2)

(https://i.imgur.com/Hay6b6o.jpg?1)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 25, 2015, 03:45:02 pm
Oh my god! It's the #Blue&Black again xD
Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/e4b19f3b60b0b2d42af8e7d5aab2b952.png)
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What do you think guys? Are the boots blue or black?  ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 25, 2015, 03:51:01 pm
Made a random group picture...  8)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150325%2Fp9iz67ht.jpg&hash=134168c3a9f13c1cb9d897de1934883ac29319c2)
Is that a surgeon at the end on the right?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on March 25, 2015, 04:02:46 pm
Oh crap, the op shotgun cavalry isn't coming back is it?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 25, 2015, 05:27:28 pm
Oh gods please tell me the "surrender" salute is still in the game.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 25, 2015, 05:42:46 pm
I would like it if you could do the default surrender for 'P' and salute for 'O' or something.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on March 25, 2015, 06:14:23 pm
Oh gods please tell me the "surrender" salute is still in the game.

Union get Sharps rifles, we get Shotguns, only fair way :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 25, 2015, 06:17:50 pm
Oh gods please tell me the "surrender" salute is still in the game.

Union get Sharps rifles, we get Shotguns, only fair way :P

Do it!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on March 25, 2015, 07:03:57 pm
Coach gun and revolver cav for the rebs and sharps for yanks would be great.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 25, 2015, 07:23:19 pm
Coach gun and revolver cav for the rebs and sharps for yanks would be great.

Why not both for both teams, i see y'all don't want balance in the game, y'all want to give advantages for one team and disadvantages in other. Anyway i wish to play a historical accurate game, even if it makes the game balanced in some aspects.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on March 25, 2015, 07:45:55 pm
Oh my god! It's the #Blue&Black again xD
Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/e4b19f3b60b0b2d42af8e7d5aab2b952.png)
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What do you think guys? Are the boots blue or black?  ???
Oh shut up...  ::) xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on March 25, 2015, 07:50:53 pm
What is unballanced about it? Its historically accurate and give both teams advantidges..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 25, 2015, 08:11:39 pm
Balanced? Two new weapons for CSA and one weapon for the USA that's already in there? I don't think so.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 25, 2015, 08:46:09 pm
Can reload the Sharp on the move. OP
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on March 25, 2015, 08:50:45 pm
Balanced? Two new weapons for CSA and one weapon for the USA that's already in there? I don't think so.

You don't have to think nothing. Anyway reload on the move will be freaking great
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 25, 2015, 09:05:50 pm
Quote
You don't have to think nothing. Anyway reload on the move will be freaking great

I agree, reloading a musket on the move can be done but it would take longer, or you would be moving really slow.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 26, 2015, 01:59:59 am
I'm just going to leave this here while we wait for the next update...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftg9dXfXLkE
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 26, 2015, 07:55:08 am
That is pretty cool, I like to the Corporal's clicking fingers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 26, 2015, 09:00:33 am
That is pretty cool, I like to the Corporal's clicking fingers.
That's a sergeant. The interment he's using is called "bones"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 26, 2015, 01:29:57 pm
My bad, I didn't see he was a Sergeant, was on my tablet again.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on March 27, 2015, 03:46:34 pm
There may or may not be a new animation for a new unit type which you guys are going to abuse the hell out of...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 27, 2015, 03:53:55 pm
The teasing has begun! ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on March 27, 2015, 08:16:14 pm
Preacher! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on March 27, 2015, 08:22:47 pm
There may or may not be a new animation for a new unit type which you guys are going to abuse the hell out of...
Preacher! :D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview%2F103091%2Fcrusaders-o.gif&hash=025903dd79c440e69ce1d772af872fc4a67897c6)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on March 28, 2015, 12:18:27 am
What movie is that from?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on March 28, 2015, 02:50:39 am
Glory was just on British telly, had a little weep then came to check the thread, for the 54th!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on March 28, 2015, 02:33:11 pm
Yeah, twas on BBC2 last night, pretty good film.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on March 28, 2015, 03:45:24 pm
Pretty good, but very hollywoodish. Got to love Morgan Freeman though  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 28, 2015, 06:19:56 pm
Yeah, twas on BBC2 last night, pretty good film.

Aww, I saw it on the guide.

Pretty good, but very hollywoodish. Got to love Morgan Freeman though  :P

Morgan Freeman is great, I liked him in that Robin Hood film with Kevin Costner. Reminds me of the awesome 1938 Robin Hood, bloody marvellous. In colour as well.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on March 28, 2015, 08:37:17 pm
I stopped watching BBC....just a few days ago,due to the sacking of Jeremy Clarckson.



#FRACAS

(https://i.imgur.com/X3i4dzD.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 28, 2015, 11:23:40 pm
Clarckson's fault for being a sex offender.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on March 28, 2015, 11:26:27 pm
Clarckson's fault for being a sex offender.
Shots fired 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 28, 2015, 11:31:05 pm
Clarkson is a saint dont you dare!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on March 28, 2015, 11:41:08 pm
+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tavington on March 30, 2015, 10:01:45 pm
I would love to see the Union greatcoats added sometime in the future perhaps or in War of Rights. They look fantastic, both officer and enlisted coats alike.

(https://i.imgur.com/YrEZPsf.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 30, 2015, 10:44:11 pm
I would love to see the Union greatcoats added sometime in the future perhaps or in War of Rights. They look fantastic, both officer and enlisted coats alike.

(https://i.imgur.com/YrEZPsf.jpg)

Nope for both...
Manassas = July battle... it was to hot for great coats
War of Rights = Maryland Campaign (September 1862), they weren't used during that campaign.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on March 30, 2015, 11:31:07 pm
Since it is bull run, will there be more of those random/brought from home types of clothing added later? Id love to see some without uniform aswell like you see on the picture  :P

https://www.google.no/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.civilwar.org%2Fhallowed-ground-magazine%2Fspring-2011%2Fan-end-to-innocence.html&ei=Eb4ZVeHFIYynsAHjsoP4BQ&bvm=bv.89381419,d.bGg&psig=AFQjCNG6RmgOBsyUQt__9HN4d8gMR6Xu0A&ust=1427836708871568
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on March 31, 2015, 02:10:22 am
I would love to see the Union greatcoats added sometime in the future perhaps or in War of Rights. They look fantastic, both officer and enlisted coats alike.

(https://i.imgur.com/YrEZPsf.jpg)

Nope for both...
Manassas = July battle... it was to hot for great coats
War of Rights = Maryland Campaign (September 1862), they weren't used during that campaign.

He is right about one thing, they do look fantastic.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on March 31, 2015, 02:48:06 am
I love the extra cloth that goes over the shoulders.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on March 31, 2015, 09:24:41 pm
Finally, some new screenshots of a lovely, small action packed map called: "Parrots Ville - Iron Works"

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2F5m7t97ph.jpg&hash=20496d1ea4a66400ecb0578a02f111ca3fc7a531)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fydm4hhln.jpg&hash=bae19461ac2e7a23bf3ad34f821dec804ea411a0)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fp46gojti.jpg&hash=bb6c25980b6e79f141955cc7fcaf7afdd4508a84)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fta6ofgxe.jpg&hash=a54523c628483c295ee2b15b842b80a253725e63)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Ferrih6gq.jpg&hash=2bda90caa5b87dc72e1414c86b571943aa36c127)

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on March 31, 2015, 09:26:02 pm
Amazing... Keep up the good work Hinkel,Parrot and the rest of the team
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on March 31, 2015, 09:50:27 pm
When this comes out I shall die a happy man.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on March 31, 2015, 10:13:12 pm
ahahah thats a Hinkelbucks Coffee?

Nice work, I really want to play it!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 01, 2015, 10:46:29 pm
Lots of stuffs is happening...

(https://i.imgur.com/PBq2sk0.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 01, 2015, 10:49:59 pm
 *Hacks into Parrot's PC and downloads all the NaS Cool new stuff *
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 01, 2015, 10:56:23 pm
Becomes a hero for the N&S community.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on April 02, 2015, 12:10:46 am
And a villain to the NaS development team.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 02, 2015, 12:32:31 am
^ Indeed ^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 02, 2015, 01:00:43 am
Please not be an April Fools prank
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on April 02, 2015, 01:06:22 am
Lots of stuffs is happening...

(https://i.imgur.com/PBq2sk0.png)
Hey your naming convention is the same as I do for dev modules xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Frederik on April 02, 2015, 01:07:41 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1550541334/eye_reasonably_small_400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 02, 2015, 09:21:15 pm
*Hacks into Parrot's PC and downloads all the NaS Cool new stuff *

*Ddosses Parrot until I get my hands on a pre-release copy of NaS* :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 02, 2015, 09:40:17 pm
Lots of stuffs is happening...

(https://i.imgur.com/PBq2sk0.png)
BAAH! The teasing is... teasing.  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 02, 2015, 11:03:37 pm
BAAH! The teasing is... teasing.  :o

You guys like teasers hmm?

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/dPigV9G.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 02, 2015, 11:05:51 pm
Where's my fancy zouave pantaloons?  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 02, 2015, 11:08:13 pm
Where's my fancy zouave pantaloons?  :'(

Far left window, six rows down, six columns from the left.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 02, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
The guy who could tell me every single unit to each uniform will get an exclusive unit and a key for War of Rights...  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 02, 2015, 11:43:19 pm
Someone will end up delving into the annals of uniform books to get that key.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 03, 2015, 12:00:51 am
Confederate:
26th North Carolina (Requires key to use I think)
33rd Virginia
Wheat Tigers
Washington Artillery Battery (I cant see it but it has to be on there somewhere)
4th Alabama
11th Mississipi
7th Georgia
Confederate State Marine Corps (Possibly)
1st VA Cavalry
Lay's Squadron Cavalry
2nd Kentucky Sharpshooters
3rd Arkanass (Requires key to use I think)
VMI Cadets
Partisan Cavalry

Union:
11th New York "Fire Zouaves"
14th Brooklyn "Red Legged Devils" (Requires key to use I think)
72nd Pennsylvania (Requires key to use I think)
1st Minnesota
United States Marine Corps
2nd Rhode Island
2nd Wisconsin
69th New York
9th New York
2nd USSS (Maybe?) (Requires key to use I think)
2nd Maine
3rd United States Infantry
3rd New Jersey "Butterfly Hussars" (Requires key to use I think)
Regular Infantry Zouave
1st Michigan Cavalry (Requires key to use I think)
U.S. Artillery

Other:
British 32nd Regiment of Foot
French Zouaves
Mexican Guerrillas
British Expeditionary Force
Mexican Lancers

Gen Staff:
General's Staff Private
Brigadier General (Stonewall Jackson)
Major General
Lieutenant General

Specials:
Sappers
Various Musicians
Surgeon
Irvin McDowel
Joseph E. Johnston
Priest

Not all but its all I could think of and see lol
 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 03, 2015, 12:11:09 am
The guy who could tell me every single unit to each uniform will get an exclusive unit and a key for War of Rights...  8)

(https://i.imgur.com/pLMjJIm.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 03, 2015, 12:13:13 am
Parrot, PM me the Unit list 8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 03, 2015, 12:17:13 am
Parrot, PM me the Unit list 8)

Even with the brfs and item list I probably couldn't name all the uniforms...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 03, 2015, 12:20:01 am
*Prays for no one else to enter the challenge*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:05 am
Well, james has listed a nice amount of it but ill try to fill in a bit more :D

Confederates : Joseph E. Johnston ( General Class )
                      : High Command Staff
                      : 3rd Arkansas
                      : Preacher
                      : 1st VA Cavalry
                      : 26th NC

Union             : Ulysses S. Grant Class ( Generel Class )
                      : Irvin McDowell Class    ( Generel Class )
                      : High Command Staff
                      : Preacher
                      : 3rd New Jersey Cavalry "Butterfly Hussars"
                      : 1st Michigan Cavalry
                      : 9th New York Hawkin Zouaves
                     

Foreign Faction :

                    Mexican Lancers,

                   
                       
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:40 am
Well, james has listed a nice amount of it but ill try to fill in a bit more :D

Confederates : Joseph E. Johnston ( General Class )
                      : High Command Staff
                      : 3rd Arkansas
                      : Preacher
                      : 1st VA Cavalry
                      : Lay's Squadron Cavalry

Union             : Ulysses S. Grant Class ( Generel Class )
                      : Irvin McDowell Class    ( Generel Class )
                      : High Command Staff
                      : Preacher
                      : 3rd New Jersey Cavalry "Butterfly Hussars"
                      : 1st Michigan Cavalry
                      : 9th New York Hawkin Zouaves
                     

Foreign Faction :

                    Mexican Lancers,

                   
                     
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:50 am
lol that's a really big tease ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 03, 2015, 12:28:20 am
Incredible work once again. If I get them all right, will I be able to have my unit of flying Norwegian pickle troopers in WoR?  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 03, 2015, 01:05:38 am
Oh my God are those British uniforms??? Is that a fucking tartan wrapping?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on April 03, 2015, 01:26:52 am
James you forgot the:
British Expeditionary Force (presumably a few units are planned, Highlanders are noticable)
Union Priest
Confederate Surgeon
Confederate Partisan Cavalry

but other than those the list looks complete. May be a few extra though.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on April 03, 2015, 01:40:57 am
The guy who could tell me every single unit to each uniform will get an exclusive unit and a key for War of Rights...  8)

they're all dirty traitors of the crown.

(US&CON)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 03, 2015, 01:43:13 am
James you forgot the:
British Expeditionary Force (presumably a few units are planned, Highlanders are noticable)
Union Priest
Confederate Surgeon
Confederate Partisan Cavalry

but other than those the list looks complete. May be a few extra though.

Thanks for those Incog ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 03, 2015, 03:25:24 am
Some one should organize a tournament league for North and South similar to the NW league.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 03, 2015, 04:14:06 am
Quote
Please stop that release discussion. No idea, if it will be out in december or somewhere 2015.
Also, it will just contain the new models and units :)
 
 :-\ bb pl0x. Anyways I'm aware of the skin pack that came out to change the units, cans I has link please.  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 03, 2015, 04:40:22 am
Quote
Please stop that release discussion. No idea, if it will be out in december or somewhere 2015.
Also, it will just contain the new models and units :)
 
 :-\ bb pl0x. Anyways I'm aware of the skin pack that came out to change the units, cans I has link please.  ;D
I believe the one you're talking about was only handed out to the Armies of NaS, sorry.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 03, 2015, 05:17:11 am
Cryface Im in the DA 5thGA.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 03, 2015, 05:35:44 am
Cryface Im in the DA 5thGA.

Really? Suprised you didnt have it already. I gots dah link to it :D I will PM it to you, it only replaces the CS units a changes the looks of the Zouaves and other Union units to fit the designs of the others. My Favorites are the Tiger Rifle changes and the CS Sharps
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 03, 2015, 05:44:12 am
After downloading and putting the files in it when I entered a map it gave me a texture error along the lines of union frock jacket.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 03, 2015, 10:54:42 am
Oh my God are those British uniforms??? Is that a fucking tartan wrapping?

:)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150403%2Fzgaqyb5d.jpg&hash=b1b721ab4365fb6804a663ad57632a3cae144033)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 03, 2015, 11:17:43 am
Spoiler

:)

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Aaaah, my gosh. ;_;
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on April 03, 2015, 11:42:28 am
*Unzips Pants*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hawke on April 03, 2015, 12:16:52 pm
Do we get normal British infantry as well?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 03, 2015, 12:22:41 pm
Do we get normal British infantry as well?

Yes, of course! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150309%2Fnj9htzmn.jpg&hash=d95a2b71342334d7f28ecde5f5d2eef513fcf419)
Title: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 03, 2015, 12:23:43 pm
Will there be a piper? ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 03, 2015, 01:13:20 pm
I love the regular infanteers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on April 03, 2015, 02:07:42 pm
Now with the Foreign Intervention Regimental Subheader, will we be seeing Mexican troops along with guerrillas? :D Cause honestly all I want to do is make a Fernando Sancho ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 03, 2015, 03:50:29 pm
Well, james has listed a nice amount of it but ill try to fill in a bit more :D

Confederates : Joseph E. Johnston ( General Class )
                      : High Command Staff
                      : 3rd Arkansas
                      : Preacher
                      : 1st VA Cavalry
                      : 26th NC
                      : 7th GA
                      : 7th NJ
                      : Drummer Boy

Union             : Ulysses S. Grant Class ( Generel Class )
                      : Irvin McDowell Class    ( Generel Class )
                      : High Command Staff
                      : Preacher
                      : 3rd New Jersey Cavalry "Butterfly Hussars"
                      : 1st Michigan Cavalry
                      : 9th New York Hawkin Zouaves
                      : 79th New York
                      : Drummer Boy
                      : Illinois Militia Sharpshooters
                      : 146thNY ( French zouves uniform too :P )
                      : Pennsylvanian Lancers

Foreign Faction :

                    Mexican Lancers,
                    42nd Regiment of Foot ( British Highlanders )
                    Prussian Infantry
                   32nd Regiment of Foot

                   
                     
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 03, 2015, 04:30:49 pm
Finally, some new screenshots of a lovely, small action packed map called: "Parrots Ville - Iron Works"

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2F5m7t97ph.jpg&hash=20496d1ea4a66400ecb0578a02f111ca3fc7a531)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fydm4hhln.jpg&hash=bae19461ac2e7a23bf3ad34f821dec804ea411a0)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fp46gojti.jpg&hash=bb6c25980b6e79f141955cc7fcaf7afdd4508a84)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fta6ofgxe.jpg&hash=a54523c628483c295ee2b15b842b80a253725e63)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Ferrih6gq.jpg&hash=2bda90caa5b87dc72e1414c86b571943aa36c127)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Ffqp8igqm.jpg&hash=6cad1118b63d03cccdf5d2b7e888cd5c20a553ff)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150331%2Fo8vmy58l.jpg&hash=41b59ae1a9c84badc95da776f070fcb7e95c19b4)

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Looks promising
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 03, 2015, 05:29:04 pm
Spoiler
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Just leaving this screenshot right here...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 03, 2015, 07:04:49 pm
NicolasKiyoshi.....that massive quote for 2 words. Do you even know how to reply without quoting ffs!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 03, 2015, 07:09:26 pm
Quotes are used all too much but it brings context to what it is that they're replying to.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on April 03, 2015, 07:12:46 pm
Not sure which I'm more excited for; the map's beauty, or a 91st/92nd/93rd invasion. ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 03, 2015, 07:37:45 pm
Quotes are used all too much but it brings context to what it is that they're replying to.

He is implying that he should have at least put a spoiler for the images so his reply wouldnt take so much space
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 03, 2015, 08:39:23 pm
You overstep good sir!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Albinos on April 04, 2015, 01:03:09 am
And were are the french infantry "pour casser la gueule des soldats anglais"?!! ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 04, 2015, 05:54:38 pm
Made a small map preview video... I don't know why, but the shader is to bright... :(
But well, have a look :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSleVR2Zs5w
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 04, 2015, 06:06:42 pm
Oh sweet jesus that musket sound  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 04, 2015, 06:08:51 pm
noice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1.0 now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cant hold it anymore! :D  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 04, 2015, 06:09:50 pm
Oh sweet jesus that musket sound  ::)

And all it's variations...

(https://i.imgur.com/J2vrG9L.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 04, 2015, 06:13:45 pm
Oh sweet jesus that musket sound  ::)

And all it's variations...

(https://i.imgur.com/J2vrG9L.png)
Parrot, you're such a tease  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 04, 2015, 06:29:43 pm
gib 1.0 pl0x no more tease we want THE WHOLE THING  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 04, 2015, 06:31:33 pm
It'll come when its ready :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 04, 2015, 06:42:00 pm
My body is ready for 1.0  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 04, 2015, 10:48:41 pm
Made a small map preview video... I don't know why, but the shader is to bright... :(
But well, have a look :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSleVR2Zs5w
Awesome! You also spawned with my favourite confederate hat!  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 04, 2015, 11:49:55 pm
Are we going to see new running with musket animations? Would love to see a over-shoulder running animation similar to the posture the union troops had when running up the slope in the fredricksburg scene from Gods & Generals.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 04, 2015, 11:54:50 pm
All I want for Easter is for the Easter bunny to bring me 1.0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 04, 2015, 11:56:24 pm
All I want for Easter is for the Easter bunny to bring me 1.0

Same here xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 05, 2015, 12:33:12 am
Are we going to see new running with musket animations? Would love to see a over-shoulder running animation similar to the posture the union troops had when running up the slope in the fredricksburg scene from Gods & Generals.

You mean like this? Right shoulder shift?!

https://youtu.be/9lFvIkF685M?t=33 (https://youtu.be/9lFvIkF685M?t=33)

Maybe Parrot can do something... ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 05, 2015, 12:37:11 am
That is pretty nice, also were you thinking of having like bayonet down charging animation?
like this 0:49  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lFvIkF685M&feature=youtu.be&t=33 seems pretty cool I think  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 05, 2015, 12:47:34 am
Are we going to see new running with musket animations? Would love to see a over-shoulder running animation similar to the posture the union troops had when running up the slope in the fredricksburg scene from Gods & Generals.

You mean like this? Right shoulder shift?!

https://youtu.be/9lFvIkF685M?t=33 (https://youtu.be/9lFvIkF685M?t=33)

Maybe Parrot can do something... ;)
Yes yes omfg yes.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 05, 2015, 03:40:27 am
I love the train sounds, so awesome! Can't wait for the map to be populated, only if there were civilians.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on April 05, 2015, 03:33:26 pm
Technically something that always bugs me in NW is that the Musket sits on the right shoulder in-game. In real life historically the Musket or Rifle was carried on the LEFT shoulder.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 05, 2015, 03:50:57 pm
Technically something that always bugs me in NW is that the Musket sits on the right shoulder in-game. In real life historically the Musket or Rifle was carried on the LEFT shoulder.

Ehm.. no? The Rifle was always carried on Right Shoulder Shift or right shoulder arm ;)
Nobody carried it left in the civil war.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.5thusct.net%2Findex_htm_files%2F40.jpg&hash=a7378fee75d733f740498acd4738bf52cdad9922)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 05, 2015, 04:01:37 pm
Technically something that always bugs me in NW is that the Musket sits on the right shoulder in-game. In real life historically the Musket or Rifle was carried on the LEFT shoulder.
I'm sorry but... no. Just no. This is as wrong as it could be... ._.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on April 05, 2015, 04:02:09 pm
Loyalist/Patriot is wrong all the time, ignore him. ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 05, 2015, 05:33:26 pm
In regards to animations when movign again, how about right shoulder shift while running in melee mode and the generals lowered but right hand holding of the gun when in shooting mode and walking.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 05, 2015, 09:37:02 pm
In regards to animations.... [in general]

I'll have to see about animations, I've got more important stuff to focus on with the mod :P

On a different note your NaS character's hair, facial hair, and accessories (pipes, jewelry, etc) will now be compatible with the new version of B&I (yet to be released). So you can use the same character for both modules if you like!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 05, 2015, 11:11:37 pm
Rule Britannia :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150405%2F4dzeyzfp.jpg&hash=0487528171ef10f9ce3a7d3e0cd8e8bd0d79b90c)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 05, 2015, 11:17:20 pm
Swaggy.

Did the British have similar, if not the same drill movements as American units in the 1860's if anyone knows?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 05, 2015, 11:19:50 pm
Rule Britannia :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150405%2F4dzeyzfp.jpg&hash=0487528171ef10f9ce3a7d3e0cd8e8bd0d79b90c)
Awesome... ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 06, 2015, 12:33:15 am
Will i get a dead or alive poster too? :*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 06, 2015, 01:08:59 am
Hinkel, could you make the texture pack for 0.5 that changes the grass mesh and texture available to the public?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 06, 2015, 01:12:07 am
It only changes the uniforms, thats it. All the new terrain is NaS 1.0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 06, 2015, 01:18:10 am
There is a pack that contains grass mesh and textural changes in 0.5, trust me.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on April 06, 2015, 03:49:57 am
Swaggy.

Did the British have similar, if not the same drill movements as American units in the 1860's if anyone knows?
No the British had a much more disciplined drill manual and as an expanding imperial nation they had extensive training and drilling. Here is an example of a British Army 19th Century (1800s) Drill http://www.thortrains.com/getright/drillbrit19.html or this British Drill for the Long Rifle 1862 http://www.thortrains.com/getright/1862britdrill1.htm

And from what I see professional armies such as the British carried the Rifle or Musket on the left shoulder when doing "Shoulder Arms"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 06, 2015, 10:46:23 am
"Professional."   :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 06, 2015, 05:21:48 pm
He he he he that wanted post of me though  ;D going to get me TKed in all up coming events
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dipington on April 06, 2015, 06:51:24 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWvdf_51Iq0
im bored so im just gonna put this here.........
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 06, 2015, 09:46:14 pm
*Tease Tease*

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150406%2Fh5rsex9y.jpg&hash=30f7934a712df47947a5752d0d319bb7ecb7105f)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150406%2Fz7a6eer2.jpg&hash=41b430e6e7357a30645bd831d890ade053f9d470)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 06, 2015, 10:09:27 pm
Why must you do this Hinkel?!?! ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 06, 2015, 10:11:22 pm
Why must you do this Hinkel?!?! ::)

Because he's got nothing better to do XD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 06, 2015, 10:23:42 pm
Finishing the mod might be a start  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: kpetschulat on April 07, 2015, 12:50:50 am
Finishing the mod might be a start  :P

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSO0I9wJLTUJMBdOCym7FhhXYO4hOJeDGMX9D7HWU6Gr95J0mj_)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on April 07, 2015, 08:52:46 am
"Hmmm I have got 3 tedious things left to do before I can release my mod / the new update. Hmmmm. Wait I have an idea! I will just model and texture more things so that I dont have to do the tedious stuff! Great!" ~Every modder ever
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 07, 2015, 01:11:53 pm
Would be cool to see some prussian and dannish troops of the war of 1864. I know it had nothing to do with the civil war, but happened around the same time.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on April 07, 2015, 02:58:30 pm
Thats the Blood&Iron mod for you boy
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 07, 2015, 05:19:11 pm
Guys I did a thing...

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/D2ZjjWm.png)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on April 07, 2015, 05:20:40 pm
shoot_speed is 420 ahahahaha ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Frederik on April 07, 2015, 05:36:02 pm
shoot_speed is 420 ahahahaha ;D
navy is high as fuck again.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on April 07, 2015, 06:40:35 pm
For what unit will be that colt rifle?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 07, 2015, 06:55:08 pm
Hopefully that Colt will be for the Sharpshooters  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on April 07, 2015, 07:08:37 pm
It's the first peculiar thing I noticed, I'm sure that rifle will be quite the talk.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 07, 2015, 07:15:57 pm
I'm pretty sure many people will hate it also. I dont event like the revolvers let alone a revolving rifle  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 07, 2015, 07:18:59 pm
lel, I'd be more happy for gatling gun or henry rifle, but ok :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on April 07, 2015, 08:01:51 pm
Thats the Blood&Iron mod for you boy
Same for you
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 07, 2015, 08:05:07 pm
lel, I'd be more happy for gatling gun or henry rifle, but ok :D

 8)

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150407%2Fmfojvr6b.jpg&hash=e88293712eb740476e47c179f1988540dc0a9f69)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 07, 2015, 08:48:18 pm
Holy dayum!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on April 07, 2015, 11:24:24 pm
Damn. T'is going to be fun abusing this xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 07, 2015, 11:28:22 pm
It would be kickass if a prone stance was added so the sharpshooters could be a little bit more stealthy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 07, 2015, 11:52:38 pm
It would be kickass if a prone stance was added so the sharpshooters could be a little bit more stealthy.
Not sure that would be possible, but it sure would change the game.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on April 08, 2015, 12:06:16 am
I don't think it is possible in the warband engine. If it is though I would expect to be rather clunky and maybe OP.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 08, 2015, 12:59:06 am
If they could pull it off it would be a cool feature.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 08, 2015, 01:25:46 am
There is a file in the NW mod folder that has a moving crouched animation, it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on April 08, 2015, 10:10:30 am
I think it's possible, but needs a great part of coding if you want that can be used only by sharpshooters and that modifies the acuracy. And we don't want to wait more... :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 08, 2015, 10:25:48 am
I think it's possible, but needs a great part of coding if you want that can be used only by sharpshooters and that modifies the acuracy. And we don't want to wait more... :)
I can wait for eternity.  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 08, 2015, 11:34:28 am
I can wait for eternity.  8)

Wish granted :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 08, 2015, 12:25:23 pm
There is a file in the NW mod folder that has a moving crouched animation, it's pretty cool.

Saw this in a mod. Its on my wish list for this mod, would really be an amazing feature.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 08, 2015, 01:13:43 pm
I think you may be talking about The Deluge, they have it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 08, 2015, 02:10:06 pm
I think you may be talking about The Deluge, they have it.
I used to have a shitload of fun with that animation in that mod. It's kind of buggy, though.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 08, 2015, 05:36:59 pm
I think you may be talking about The Deluge, they have it.
I used to have a shitload of fun with that animation in that mod. It's kind of buggy, though.
I am in love with the crouch animation in The Deluge! The cannon mechanics  in it also made me so happy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 08, 2015, 06:30:11 pm
And the sabotaging of the cannons was a cool and useful feature.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 08, 2015, 06:33:14 pm
Feel the same way. Devs what do you say?  Any posebilety for a moving while crouched animation? :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 08, 2015, 07:32:44 pm
Feel the same way. Devs what do you say?  Any posebilety for a moving while crouched animation? :D
No.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 08, 2015, 08:38:36 pm
 :o The battles could become very interesting with these mechanics. The Idea of sabotage would be a  great idea indeed.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 08, 2015, 09:07:10 pm
Would be great for sharpshooters  :) Just imagine you and your regiment sneeking through the cornfields and tall grass, could lead to some lovly ambushes . A guy can dream cant he?  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 08, 2015, 10:07:48 pm
Quote
Would be great for sharpshooters  :) Just imagine you and your regiment sneeking through the cornfields and tall grass, could lead to some lovly ambushes . A guy can dream cant he?  ::)

I completely agree! Id love to see an ambush where an entire regiment is wiped out from a well executed ambush.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 08, 2015, 11:29:04 pm
Quote
Would be great for sharpshooters  :) Just imagine you and your regiment sneeking through the cornfields and tall grass, could lead to some lovly ambushes . A guy can dream cant he?  ::)

I completely agree! Id love to see an ambush where an entire regiment is wiped out from a well executed ambush.

See it unfold right before my eyes. 32ndMA hid behind a stone wall in a corn field. Enemy line came close, 32ndMA pop up and whipped out about half the line.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Swiftwisp on April 08, 2015, 11:36:15 pm
We manage quite well without the crouch animation  ;) but it would make things so much easier, also you could easily merge with a bush, without having to stand up to step out of the bush to take a shot. That is the skirmisher wish  ;D plus maybe hinkel... if we could get those bush wookie suits.... hook us up?  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 08, 2015, 11:36:22 pm
The hype is too much.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kQX12S9YI[/youtube]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on April 08, 2015, 11:47:48 pm
So since a number of people will cry wolf over the revolving rifles can Confederate's have Lemat revolvers? I know I would be happy attacking sharpshooters if each of my guys had 9 shots and a shotgun blast!  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 08, 2015, 11:55:46 pm
Christ, not revolving rifles again.  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 09, 2015, 12:58:24 am
Spoiler
The hype is too much.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kQX12S9YI[/youtube]
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Why does watching this make me so happy though I am a unionist.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 09, 2015, 12:59:31 am
Spoiler
The hype is too much.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kQX12S9YI[/youtube]
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Why does watching this make me so happy though I am a unionist.

same here, i think good music makes everyone happy :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 09, 2015, 01:04:17 am
It looks so tiny atm...  :(
But for us, its a huge deal!

Spoiler
North and South 1.0 Beta

Major Changes

- Complete redesign of all unit models and textures. In cooperation with Docm30, the modder of L'Aigle, all uniforms
  were remade and dozens were newly added! (More then 100+ new uniforms)
- In cooperation with our sister mod - "Blood & Iron" a complete new envirenment with new plants, objects, skybox and more was added!
- "Foreign Intervention": A new "what if, ..." scenario brings in troops of 4 different nations, which joined the War!
- Bleeding and Ammo resupply introduced into the game

Minor Changes

- Rebalanced stats
- Added the first 10 unique player regiments
- Added various new sound files for muskets, troops, overall atmoshphere
- Added 5th North Carolina, Hamptons Legion, 79th New York, Pennsylvania Lancers, Partisan Rangers, CSA Marines, VMI cadets, Union Zouaves and more to playable classes
- Added another Private II subclass to most units which allows more variations and units! (Line and Light Infantry within one unit)
- New voice over for the Union and Confederacy made by Comrade_Crimson
- Unique warcrys for each faction, for instance the "Fough a Ballagh" for the Irish Brigade
- Added new animations
- New graphic shaders added and ragdolls activated
- Added new weapons like the Hawken Rifle (sharpshooters), Enfield, Partisan Revolver or the Minnie Rifle
- Military Chaplains added - The bible contains a number of blessings to encourage your troops and serve the church of Hinkel
- Added ingame advertising posters for Player Armies and Youtubers
- Donators granted with Wanted Posters
- Added tons of new Mapping Objects in cooperation with The Blue and the Grey and Secession
- Newly made maps and lot of reworked maps (Mappers have to rework their 0.5 maps)
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 09, 2015, 01:09:05 am
Noice!!!! Does anybody have found the download link? It should be above the patch notes :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 01:17:49 am
So does this mean it's out?!?!? Also, since you guys introduced bleeding, are there now bandages?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sweet William on April 09, 2015, 01:20:15 am
Noice!!!! Does anybody have found the download link? It should be above the patch notes :D
Cheeky
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 09, 2015, 01:22:47 am
So does this mean it's out?!?!? Also, since you guys introduced bleeding, are there now bandages?

Its not out... I just wrote down a small list whats in so far :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 01:23:49 am
So does this mean it's out?!?!? Also, since you guys introduced bleeding, are there now bandages?

Its not out... I just wrote down a small list whats in so far :)
Why must you ruin my dreams Lord Hinkel? I pray for you everyday and this is what I get in return? What about my bandage question?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on April 09, 2015, 01:25:24 am
It looks so tiny atm...  :(
But for us, its a huge deal!

Spoiler
North and South 1.0 Beta

Major Changes

- Complete redesign of all unit models and textures. In cooperation with Docm30, the modder of L'Aigle, all uniforms
  were remade and dozens were newly added! (More then 100+ new uniforms)
- In cooperation with our sister mod - "Blood & Iron" a complete new envirenment with new plants, objects, skybox and more was added!
- "Foreign Intervention": A new "what if, ..." scenario brings in troops of 4 different nations, which joined the War!
- Bleeding and Ammo resupply introduced into the game

Minor Changes

- Rebalanced stats
- Added the first 10 unique player regiments
- Added various new sound files for muskets, troops, overall atmoshphere
- Added 5th North Carolina, Hamptons Legion, 79th New York, Pennsylvania Lancers, Partisan Rangers, CSA Marines, VMI cadets, Union Zouaves and more to playable classes
- Added another Private II subclass to most units which allows more variations and units! (Line and Light Infantry within one unit)
- New voice over for the Union and Confederacy made by Comrade_Crimson
- Unique warcrys for each faction, for instance the "Fough a Ballagh" for the Irish Brigade
- Added new animations
- New graphic shaders added and ragdolls activated
- Added new weapons like the Hawken Rifle (sharpshooters), Enfield, Partisan Revolver or the Minnie Rifle
- Military Chaplains added - The bible contains a number of blessings to encourage your troops and serve the church of Hinkel
- Added ingame advertising posters for Player Armies and Youtubers
- Donators granted with Wanted Posters
- Added tons of new Mapping Objects in cooperation with The Blue and the Grey and Secession
- Newly made maps and lot of reworked maps (Mappers have to rework their 0.5 maps)
[close]
That's a sizeable changelog, by no means tiny with the efforts put into it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 09, 2015, 01:40:57 am
It looks so tiny atm...  :(
But for us, its a huge deal!

Spoiler
North and South 1.0 Beta

Major Changes

- Complete redesign of all unit models and textures. In cooperation with Docm30, the modder of L'Aigle, all uniforms
  were remade and dozens were newly added! (More then 100+ new uniforms)
- In cooperation with our sister mod - "Blood & Iron" a complete new envirenment with new plants, objects, skybox and more was added!
- "Foreign Intervention": A new "what if, ..." scenario brings in troops of 4 different nations, which joined the War!
- Bleeding and Ammo resupply introduced into the game

Minor Changes

- Rebalanced stats
- Added the first 10 unique player regiments
- Added various new sound files for muskets, troops, overall atmoshphere
- Added 5th North Carolina, Hamptons Legion, 79th New York, Pennsylvania Lancers, Partisan Rangers, CSA Marines, VMI cadets, Union Zouaves and more to playable classes
- Added another Private II subclass to most units which allows more variations and units! (Line and Light Infantry within one unit)
- New voice over for the Union and Confederacy made by Comrade_Crimson
- Unique warcrys for each faction, for instance the "Fough a Ballagh" for the Irish Brigade
- Added new animations
- New graphic shaders added and ragdolls activated
- Added new weapons like the Hawken Rifle (sharpshooters), Enfield, Partisan Revolver or the Minnie Rifle
- Military Chaplains added - The bible contains a number of blessings to encourage your troops and serve the church of Hinkel
- Added ingame advertising posters for Player Armies and Youtubers
- Donators granted with Wanted Posters
- Added tons of new Mapping Objects in cooperation with The Blue and the Grey and Secession
- Newly made maps and lot of reworked maps (Mappers have to rework their 0.5 maps)
[close]

That's plenty of new features Hinkel :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 02:02:00 am
I thought this was a good quote so I'm just going to leave it here:

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things. And it is very necessary, if you are going to understand the American character in the twentieth century, to learn about this enormous catastrophe of the mid-nineteenth century. It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads." - Shelby Foote

Edit: This is us trying to hack into Hinkel's computer to steal 1.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owBKdZDDOtE
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 09, 2015, 02:17:05 am
I thought this was a good quote so I'm just going to leave it here:

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things. And it is very necessary, if you are going to understand the American character in the twentieth century, to learn about this enormous catastrophe of the mid-nineteenth century. It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads." - Shelby Foote

Ok. The revolution should not be dismissed like that. The revolution was the first congregation of our people.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 02:20:11 am
I thought this was a good quote so I'm just going to leave it here:

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things. And it is very necessary, if you are going to understand the American character in the twentieth century, to learn about this enormous catastrophe of the mid-nineteenth century. It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads." - Shelby Foote

Ok. The revolution should not be dismissed like that. The revolution was the first congregation of our people.
True, it set the foundation for our country, but that wasn't the main point of the quote.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 09, 2015, 03:37:39 am
I thought this was a good quote so I'm just going to leave it here:

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things. And it is very necessary, if you are going to understand the American character in the twentieth century, to learn about this enormous catastrophe of the mid-nineteenth century. It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads." - Shelby Foote

I saw this quote today so I will just leave it here for you yanks ;D

“To tar the sacrifices of the Confederate soldier as simple acts of racism, and reduce the battle flag under which he fought to nothing more than the symbol of a racist heritage, is one of the great blasphemies of our modern age”.
~ James Webb-Secretary of Navy And Assistant Secretary of Defense under U.S. President Ronald Reagan
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 09, 2015, 05:51:30 am
Spoiler
North and South 1.0 Beta

Major Changes

- Complete redesign of all unit models and textures. In cooperation with Docm30, the modder of L'Aigle, all uniforms
  were remade and dozens were newly added! (More then 100+ new uniforms)
- In cooperation with our sister mod - "Blood & Iron" a complete new envirenment with new plants, objects, skybox and more was added!
- "Foreign Intervention": A new "what if, ..." scenario brings in troops of 4 different nations, which joined the War!
- Bleeding and Ammo resupply introduced into the game

Minor Changes

- Rebalanced stats
- Added the first 10 unique player regiments
- Added various new sound files for muskets, troops, overall atmoshphere
- Added 5th North Carolina, Hamptons Legion, 79th New York, Pennsylvania Lancers, Partisan Rangers, CSA Marines, VMI cadets, Union Zouaves and more to playable classes
- Added another Private II subclass to most units which allows more variations and units! (Line and Light Infantry within one unit)
- New voice over for the Union and Confederacy made by Comrade_Crimson
- Unique warcrys for each faction, for instance the "Fough a Ballagh" for the Irish Brigade
- Added new animations
- New graphic shaders added and ragdolls activated
- Added new weapons like the Hawken Rifle (sharpshooters), Enfield, Partisan Revolver or the Minnie Rifle
- Military Chaplains added - The bible contains a number of blessings to encourage your troops and serve the church of Hinkel
- Added ingame advertising posters for Player Armies and Youtubers
- Donators granted with Wanted Posters
- Added tons of new Mapping Objects in cooperation with The Blue and the Grey and Secession
- Newly made maps and lot of reworked maps (Mappers have to rework their 0.5 maps)
[close]

What type of new animations? New reloads,fixing bayonet, stances? Very interested.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 09, 2015, 07:30:28 am
I thought this was a good quote so I'm just going to leave it here:

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things. And it is very necessary, if you are going to understand the American character in the twentieth century, to learn about this enormous catastrophe of the mid-nineteenth century. It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads." - Shelby Foote

I saw this quote today so I will just leave it here for you yanks ;D

“To tar the sacrifices of the Confederate soldier as simple acts of racism, and reduce the battle flag under which he fought to nothing more than the symbol of a racist heritage, is one of the great blasphemies of our modern age”.
~ James Webb-Secretary of Navy And Assistant Secretary of Defense under U.S. President Ronald Reagan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIqxBn1oLAY
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 09, 2015, 11:02:07 am
I thought this was a good quote so I'm just going to leave it here:

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things. And it is very necessary, if you are going to understand the American character in the twentieth century, to learn about this enormous catastrophe of the mid-nineteenth century. It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads." - Shelby Foote




I saw this quote today so I will just leave it here for you yanks ;D

“To tar the sacrifices of the Confederate soldier as simple acts of racism, and reduce the battle flag under which he fought to nothing more than the symbol of a racist heritage, is one of the great blasphemies of our modern age”.
~ James Webb-Secretary of Navy And Assistant Secretary of Defense under U.S. President Ronald Reagan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIqxBn1oLAY


History is written by the victors, nothing to do about that. That just shows what you learn at school XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIqxBajeHeM  Union jack should be just red with gallows and a torch in the middle.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 09, 2015, 01:30:22 pm
^ that shows on a couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors. Still, us white man has treated the local population of most country we landed in like animals. Spain and Portugal in South America, Britain and the Opium wars and Dutch and the ethnic cleansing of Banda Island being some.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 09, 2015, 01:58:43 pm
^ that shows on a couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors. Still, us white man has treated the local population of most country we landed in like animals. Spain and Portugal in South America, Britain and the Opium wars and Dutch and the ethnic cleansing of Banda Island being some.

Its right what you say but "couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors"??? bs.
Just making a point that there was not one good and one bad side in the war.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 09, 2015, 02:29:35 pm
^ that shows on a couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors. Still, us white man has treated the local population of most country we landed in like animals. Spain and Portugal in South America, Britain and the Opium wars and Dutch and the ethnic cleansing of Banda Island being some.

Its right what you say but "couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors"??? bs.
Just making a point that there was not one good and one bad side in the war.
6:42! Hans shot first no Gredo!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 09, 2015, 02:44:04 pm
6:42! Hans shot first no Gredo!

Let's be fair, Gredo was a bit of a dick.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on April 09, 2015, 04:33:57 pm
^ that shows on a couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors. Still, us white man has treated the local population of most country we landed in like animals. Spain and Portugal in South America, Britain and the Opium wars and Dutch and the ethnic cleansing of Banda Island being some.

We, the spaniards, love the parties and the sex, so our forefathers killed the mans to have sex and party with the womens. North Americans killed all the natives so no party and no sex, worst people in all the world.

ps. I was joking. You must come at least one time in your live to our parties in Spain.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 09, 2015, 05:28:19 pm
For those who haven't watched it yet... its a pretty well done animation, about the final days of the civil war and the "cost" of the war:

http://www.civilwar.org/video/animated-map-1865.html

Beside that, today.. 150 years ago, nearly on the same time, Lee surrendered at Appomatox...  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 09, 2015, 05:33:00 pm
If anyone's going back in time, say hi to Lee for me! And give him a thanks for surrendering  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sweet William on April 09, 2015, 05:35:21 pm
If anyone's going back in time, say hi to Lee for me! And give him a thanks for surrendering  :P
inb4 southern patriot flame war.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 09, 2015, 06:00:09 pm
If anyone's going back in time, say hi to Lee for me! And give him a thanks for surrendering  :P
inb4 southern patriot flame war.

I just realised what's gonna happen.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sweet William on April 09, 2015, 06:04:18 pm
If anyone's going back in time, say hi to Lee for me! And give him a thanks for surrendering  :P
inb4 southern patriot flame war.

I just realised what's gonna happen.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.businessinsider.com%2Fimage%2F4d7a01ce4bd7c81d14570000-900-%2Freporters-take-cover-at-the-aps-japan-bureau.jpg&hash=cc5af57e7197e3614b12e6b4b586d4c3d7f75204)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 09, 2015, 06:12:23 pm
Prepare time machines lads!  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 09, 2015, 06:58:39 pm
^ that shows on a couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors. Still, us white man has treated the local population of most country we landed in like animals. Spain and Portugal in South America, Britain and the Opium wars and Dutch and the ethnic cleansing of Banda Island being some.

Its right what you say but "couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors"??? bs.
Just making a point that there was not one good and one bad side in the war.

The South killed the native Americans killed and persecuted natives as well. Let's not forget what the south did after the war. All of the southern hate groups like the Klu Klux Klan emerged from the confederacy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 09, 2015, 06:59:04 pm
Prepare time machines lads!  8)
B*tch, I watched back to the future yesterday. I know how to fix this guys.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 07:04:38 pm
Prepare time machines lads!  8)
B*tch, I watched back to the future yesterday. I know how fix this guys.
Great Scott! We must go back!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on April 09, 2015, 08:26:20 pm
Headquarters, Army of Northern Virginia
Appomattox Courthouse, April 9 , 1865
General Order No. 9

After four years of arduous service marked by unsurpassed courage and fortitude, the Army of Northern Virginia has been compelled to yield to overwhelming numbers and resources.

I need not tell the brave survivors of so many hard fought battles, who have remained steadfast to the last, that I have consented to this result from no distrust of them; but feeling that valor and devotion could accomplish nothing that could compensate for the loss that must have attended the continuance of the contest, I determined to avoid the useless sacrifice of those whose past services have endeared them to their countrymen.

By the terms of the agreement, officers and men can return to their homes and remain until exchanged. You will take with you the satisfaction that proceeds from a consciousness of duty faithfully performed; and I earnestly pray that a Merciful God will extend to you His blessings and protection.

With an unceasing admiration of your constancy and devotion to your Country, and a grateful remembrance of your kind and generous consideration for myself, I bid you all an affectionate farewell.

Robert E. Lee
General
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 09, 2015, 09:47:46 pm
I got distracted and made a captain for the British in the foreign faction:

(https://i.imgur.com/mPcDxMX.jpg?1)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 09, 2015, 09:53:56 pm
Hurry up and release.  >:(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 09, 2015, 10:04:53 pm
^ that shows on a couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors. Still, us white man has treated the local population of most country we landed in like animals. Spain and Portugal in South America, Britain and the Opium wars and Dutch and the ethnic cleansing of Banda Island being some.

Its right what you say but "couple of later occasions the natives being the aggressors"??? bs.
Just making a point that there was not one good and one bad side in the war.

The South killed the native Americans killed and persecuted natives as well. Let's not forget what the south did after the war. All of the southern hate groups like the Klu Klux Klan emerged from the confederacy.
[/quot]



Why do you go there? This discussion could go on forever. Who was worse? Who had the right cause? Was Sherman the devil in human form? Was there realy a difference between the view on race in north and south?
This was 150 years ago, the view on a lot of things like race was different then it is now. There are so much ignorence acording this, and I am sick of it. Things may sound nice in your history book, but things are rarely that simple.
You are naming the KKK? They would not have occurred had the north handled both the secession and the reconstruction better. They are a resoult in everything going terrebly wrong everywhere, not by one side.
As I have told some people on this forum before, this is not the place for this discussion. You also need to be openminded to have this discussion with someone, and dont trust whatever is written online or in your history books for that matter.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 09, 2015, 10:06:16 pm
Hurry up and release.  >:(

Well, the release version is kinda ready. Its fully playable and you would have fun!

The problem is, we don't want to have an unprepared release like other mods. So we have to test 2 days, setting up 3 official servers for the release, uploading the mod to download-pages and so on.
During the 2 days of testings, youtubers like Chadman, Diplex, Pilophas and Leviath will do videos and release them before the official release. I think Diplex will do a live-play also...

I want to make sure, that we will reach some other guys as well, not just our loyal and die-hard fans we all love :)

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 10:11:52 pm
Hurry up and release.  >:(

Well, the release version is kinda ready. Its fully playable and you would have fun!

The problem is, we don't want to have an unprepared release like other mods. So we have to test 2 days, setting up 3 official servers for the release, uploading the mod to download-pages and so on.
During the 2 days of testings, youtubers like Chadman, Diplex, Pilophas and Leviath will do videos and release them before the official release. I think Diplex will do a live-play also...

I want to make sure, that we will reach some other guys as well, not just our loyal and die-hard fans we all love :)
Ooooo, does this mean Diplex is returning to the UA again?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 09, 2015, 10:21:44 pm
Ooooo, does this mean Diplex is returning to the UA again?

Yes, he and the 100+ strong 14th Brooklyn.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 10:26:26 pm
Ooooo, does this mean Diplex is returning to the UA again?

Yes, he and the 100+ strong 14th Brooklyn.
My god  8) Has the prodigal son return?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 09, 2015, 10:30:02 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2F2013%2F05%2FRon-Paul_Its-Happening1.gif&hash=034cd8318f2061987e76f7c0922f53bcec6648a6)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 09, 2015, 10:39:40 pm
Headquarters, Army of Northern Virginia
Appomattox Courthouse, April 9 , 1865
General Order No. 9

After four years of arduous service marked by unsurpassed courage and fortitude, the Army of Northern Virginia has been compelled to yield to overwhelming numbers and resources.

I need not tell the brave survivors of so many hard fought battles, who have remained steadfast to the last, that I have consented to this result from no distrust of them; but feeling that valor and devotion could accomplish nothing that could compensate for the loss that must have attended the continuance of the contest, I determined to avoid the useless sacrifice of those whose past services have endeared them to their countrymen.

By the terms of the agreement, officers and men can return to their homes and remain until exchanged. You will take with you the satisfaction that proceeds from a consciousness of duty faithfully performed; and I earnestly pray that a Merciful God will extend to you His blessings and protection.

With an unceasing admiration of your constancy and devotion to your Country, and a grateful remembrance of your kind and generous consideration for myself, I bid you all an affectionate farewell.

Robert E. Lee
General

“Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this right hand.”

General Robert E. Lee, August 1870 to Governor Stockdale of Texas
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 09, 2015, 10:45:27 pm
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on April 09, 2015, 10:49:35 pm
 We have time. I don't want to play a mod with some bugs :/
I think they are doing a great job to find them
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 09, 2015, 10:52:12 pm
I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all.

Those factions were added and released before I joined the B&I development team :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 09, 2015, 10:54:00 pm
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.

I see what you are saying and I definitely agree with you on some. The "What if" scenario is a interesting Alt-History aspect that I very much am looking forward too. What if England accepted our alliance to bring down the yanks, and same to Mexico. For me, I would very much like the weapons to be accurate as they can be. Reloads, Shooting, Ammo, Melee etc etc. Just because a few others complain doesnt mean it speaks for the community as a whole.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 10:54:54 pm
All I want is the Sharps rifle for the sharpshooters
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 09, 2015, 10:55:44 pm
but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate,

If you want to play historical, play with CSA vs. USA.
If you want to have a fun round or doing "a/historical" events.. like the Siege of Alamo or a Mexican Invasion of Texas, play with Foreign Intervention vs. CSA.

There is no a-historical unit added to any of those civil war factions. The Foreign Intervention is an own faction, which can be ignored at any time.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 09, 2015, 11:03:17 pm
Ooooo, does this mean Diplex is returning to the UA again?

Yes, he and the 100+ strong 14th Brooklyn.
Sweet shit.  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 09, 2015, 11:04:07 pm
but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate,

If you want to play historical, play with CSA vs. USA.
If you want to have a fun round or doing "a/historical" events.. like the Siege of Alamo or a Mexican Invasion of Texas, play with Foreign Intervention vs. CSA.

There is no a-historical unit added to any of those civil war factions. The Foreign Intervention is an own faction, which can be ignored at any time.

that is everyone literally keeps saying to the people who dont like them, like there is the CSA vs USA, I am pretty sure when the next version gets released, 90% of the line battles will still be USA vs CSA, not with the foreign, and it is also an admin decision or poll the nations on each servers what faction goes out against each other. The mod is still about the American Civil War, but finally it will have more faction and more unit more fun, the fundementals of it doubtly will change. It is just an option to go against the Foreign fac.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 09, 2015, 11:11:57 pm
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.

I agree. I hope there are others willing to preserve the real North and South and the history that allows us to love this mod.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 09, 2015, 11:25:13 pm
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.

I agree. I hope there are others willing to preserve the real North and South and the history that allows us to love this mod.
Like others have said, you can still play as the Confederates and the Union, it's not like they're gone forever. If you don't like the new nations (faction), don't play as them. Simple as that. Balance is necessary in a game, but I would like some weapons added that were taken out because people complained about it. 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 10, 2015, 01:07:34 am
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.

I agree. I hope there are others willing to preserve the real North and South and the history that allows us to love this mod.
Like others have said, you can still play as the Confederates and the Union, it's not like they're gone forever. If you don't like the new nations (faction), don't play as them. Simple as that. Balance is necessary in a game, but I would like some weapons added that were taken out because people complained about it.

Well its in the hands of the event admins.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 10, 2015, 03:31:23 am
Is it too late to make a suggestion? I would love for the bugler to be able to play taps so we can hold a ceremony after battles to the fallen  :P
Like in this video:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zay7xGo4PYQ
[close]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 10, 2015, 03:51:21 am
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.

I agree. I hope there are others willing to preserve the real North and South and the history that allows us to love this mod.
Like others have said, you can still play as the Confederates and the Union, it's not like they're gone forever. If you don't like the new nations (faction), don't play as them. Simple as that. Balance is necessary in a game, but I would like some weapons added that were taken out because people complained about it.

Well its in the hands of the event admins.

The solution is not simply not playing with the foreign intervention factions, because most players will use this factions and i will have to see them and fight them around with the uniforms of armies that didn't fought in the Civil War!!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 10, 2015, 04:06:31 am
Man i will be very sincere now regardeless of how the community will answer what i will say ( I'm specting butthurts and angry plebs ). This mod is making what i consider not acceptable in my ideas, in the begining I saw that it was very historical accurate ( real life regiment uniforms, autentic weaponry, and other details ), but then i saw this ... let's say "fan fiction" based on the 1860s Civil War context, beside this was possible and it's foreign forces accurate to the period , it's not historical accurate, i know that removing the foreign units will make the community angry towards the developing team, but shit man. I'm certain that's parot's idea, like he did on Blood and Iron mod with the Microfactions and ModernUnits factions he did, didn't liked at all. Anyway I want to play a historically accurate game ( i also know that y'all trying to make some balance, for example making the most accurate muskets less effective in melee, but what I really freaking want is a accurate game ). So that's all for now I guess, I'm very certain that this reply of mine will be replied negatively, but I can't keep these ideas only for me, I felt that it was like my personal burden in my mind to do what i'm doing. That's it, and please butthurters and enemies, try to not be like butthurting this message.

I agree. I hope there are others willing to preserve the real North and South and the history that allows us to love this mod.
Like others have said, you can still play as the Confederates and the Union, it's not like they're gone forever. If you don't like the new nations (faction), don't play as them. Simple as that. Balance is necessary in a game, but I would like some weapons added that were taken out because people complained about it.

Well its in the hands of the event admins.

The solution is not simply not playing with the foreign intervention factions, because most players will use this factions and i will have to see them and fight them around with the uniforms of armies that didn't fought in the Civil War!!!!
The uniforms are accurate for that time period, but if you don't want to see them don't play on those servers. I think you're just overreacting about it. Again, you will still see fighting between the CSA and the USA. Hell, there might even be a server who is strictly only playing as Rebs and Yanks.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 10, 2015, 06:15:13 am
I believe many servers will continue to run the Union and CSA, not many in this community seem to hyped about the other nations.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: TheRealHunter on April 10, 2015, 11:24:54 am
I think in some LBs there will be the new nations but mostly it will stay on CSA vs Union.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 10, 2015, 12:58:41 pm
I realy don't understand why some people have problems with the new factions. I know a lot of people are afraid of everything new, but come on.. You can just see on the amount of uniforms and weapons for USA and CSA that they are still the focus. the new factions will expand the community for the mod, bring some new fresh content to the mod, make some really cool "what if" battles and you can have some really cool events representing other wars and have other types of events, like the French intervention of Mexico or an Alamo event like Hinkel said.

Its not the end of the CSA against USA, its just expanding the content and possibilities.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 10, 2015, 03:00:05 pm
Not everyone's interested in "what if" battles, and the majority of the intervention faction battles will not be historical it will be like England vs the Union or something like that, knowing the community.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 10, 2015, 03:49:04 pm
Not you again... Just read what I am saying for once. You dont need to join "what if" battles, its just an option, and ofcourse "what if" battles arent historical...
Knowing the comunity? Maby not, but I know there are a lot of snide people who complain and wimp a lot in general on this forum.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on April 10, 2015, 04:03:38 pm
I for one am both historical minded, and think it would be FUN (the point of the factions!) to have other period correct factions that could have possibly fought in the Civil War. I don't get all of the massive hate, these will more than likely be FUN ROUND factions, not "Alright guys let's have the Mexicans fighting the English.

It also sets up the opportunity for some more historical events outside the Civil war, for example the French military colonization of Mexico in the 1860s, or even some far-stretch Mexican War themed battles. They're there for the fun and you guys are just being sour puss' because it's not the union or the confederacy! I mean really. They developed the content for US to use and play out our OWN discretion, it's not like Hinkel is saying "PREPARE THINE BUTTHOLES FOR ANGLO FRANCO MOD!".

I mean really.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 10, 2015, 04:27:55 pm
I for one am both historical minded, and think it would be FUN (the point of the factions!) to have other period correct factions that could have possibly fought in the Civil War. I don't get all of the massive hate, these will more than likely be FUN ROUND factions, not "Alright guys let's have the Mexicans fighting the English.

It also sets up the opportunity for some more historical events outside the Civil war, for example the French military colonization of Mexico in the 1860s, or even some far-stretch Mexican War themed battles. They're there for the fun and you guys are just being sour puss' because it's not the union or the confederacy! I mean really. They developed the content for US to use and play out our OWN discretion, it's not like Hinkel is saying "PREPARE THINE BUTTHOLES FOR ANGLO FRANCO MOD!".

I mean really.

Well said.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 10, 2015, 06:07:03 pm
It's like some of the people who are hating on the new faction don't realize that some of the nations (Mexico and France) were at war at the time.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 10, 2015, 08:15:55 pm
It's like some of the people who are hating on the new faction don't realize that some of the nations (Mexico and France) were at war at the time.

No that's not it at all. people know, but the whole point of the add-on is foreign intervention. key word is foreign intervention, thus implying that European factions will engage in combat with the Americans and/or the Confederates.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 10, 2015, 08:20:49 pm
Only two people voterd for "Any movie with John Wayne"? Whoever the other person, he's awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 10, 2015, 08:23:31 pm
Gods & Generals is the best.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on April 10, 2015, 08:24:32 pm
Zulu Dawn FTW.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 10, 2015, 08:25:04 pm
Gods & Generals is the best.
I prefered Chamberlain in Gettysburg than Gods & Generals
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 10, 2015, 08:26:58 pm
Zulu Dawn FTW.

The original Zulu movie was better.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on April 10, 2015, 08:30:52 pm
Obviously, but there was no Zulu option.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 10, 2015, 08:36:14 pm
Hinkel, is the Foreign Intervention one faction? If it is, then will the French vs Mexicans battles rely on taking away the TK then kick option?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 10, 2015, 08:40:40 pm
Hinkel, is the Foreign Intervention one faction? If it is, then will the French vs Mexicans battles rely on taking away the TK then kick option?
I believe he said it will be, can't you have it where both selected factions can be the same one?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 10, 2015, 08:52:04 pm
What do you mean by that?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on April 10, 2015, 08:56:15 pm
You can have one faction be team 1 and the other faction be the same as orange rebel flag version be team 2.

Like The Union vs The Union (only difference is orange fist rebel flag on team 2)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 10, 2015, 08:58:25 pm
I for one am both historical minded, and think it would be FUN (the point of the factions!) to have other period correct factions that could have possibly fought in the Civil War. I don't get all of the massive hate, these will more than likely be FUN ROUND factions, not "Alright guys let's have the Mexicans fighting the English.

It also sets up the opportunity for some more historical events outside the Civil war, for example the French military colonization of Mexico in the 1860s, or even some far-stretch Mexican War themed battles. They're there for the fun and you guys are just being sour puss' because it's not the union or the confederacy! I mean really. They developed the content for US to use and play out our OWN discretion, it's not like Hinkel is saying "PREPARE THINE BUTTHOLES FOR ANGLO FRANCO MOD!".

I mean really.

*cough* American-Mexican War *cough*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 10, 2015, 09:22:55 pm
I for one am both historical minded, and think it would be FUN (the point of the factions!) to have other period correct factions that could have possibly fought in the Civil War. I don't get all of the massive hate, these will more than likely be FUN ROUND factions, not "Alright guys let's have the Mexicans fighting the English.

It also sets up the opportunity for some more historical events outside the Civil war, for example the French military colonization of Mexico in the 1860s, or even some far-stretch Mexican War themed battles. They're there for the fun and you guys are just being sour puss' because it's not the union or the confederacy! I mean really. They developed the content for US to use and play out our OWN discretion, it's not like Hinkel is saying "PREPARE THINE BUTTHOLES FOR ANGLO FRANCO MOD!".

I mean really.

*cough* American-Mexican War *cough*

Mhhhhmm
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 11, 2015, 02:17:50 am
You can have one faction be team 1 and the other faction be the same as orange rebel flag version be team 2.

Like The Union vs The Union (only difference is orange fist rebel flag on team 2)

I see now. That's a good idea.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 11, 2015, 04:51:54 am
Look lads, Gods and Generals/Gettysburg are great if you are versed in history, but for pure film quality it absolutely has to be Glory. I mean holy shit it's the most simultaneously sad and inspirational film I've seen since, well, since ever really.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hardy on April 11, 2015, 06:40:53 am
Look lads, Gods and Generals/Gettysburg are great if you are versed in history, but for pure film quality it absolutely has to be Glory. I mean holy shit it's the most simultaneously sad and inspirational film I've seen since, well, since ever really.
and Gettysburg isn't?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 11, 2015, 08:52:43 am
Look lads, Gods and Generals/Gettysburg are great if you are versed in history, but for pure film quality it absolutely has to be Glory. I mean holy shit it's the most simultaneously sad and inspirational film I've seen since, well, since ever really.

Have never seen Glory to be honest... Have always meant to but have never gotten around to it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 11, 2015, 09:15:30 am
I was only made aware of Glory yesterday by my friend while playing NAS with him. He showed me a few clips and it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 11, 2015, 09:28:51 am
Glory is the first Civil War movie with 3 Academy Awards. (Oscars)
Dencel Washington got one for his role, also for best camera and sound. Its definatly worth to watch it! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 11, 2015, 09:31:34 am
Glory is the first Civil War movie with 3 Academy Awards. (Oscars)
Dencel Washington got one for his role, also for best camera and sound. Its definatly worth to watch it! :)
+ Morgan Freeman is there!  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 11, 2015, 12:07:50 pm
I liked Glory. Sad end, though. Gettysburg is great, also.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 11, 2015, 03:09:26 pm
Glory is the first Civil War movie with 3 Academy Awards. (Oscars)
Dencel Washington got one for his role, also for best camera and sound. Its definatly worth to watch it! :)

Most likely because it is a movie about a black regiment.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 11, 2015, 04:10:42 pm
The tests are working great! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150411%2Fsx3dykvk.jpg&hash=76f3859a90155d1913ce4298208e74c49cc410be)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150411%2Fhxm8fk6y.jpg&hash=bfe4cc2335f1ba758d3339f38d520afab145aef3)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150411%2Frbemnruv.jpg&hash=93000e73e66f1b7a86d9951bfefba6d9f3601ca1)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 11, 2015, 04:12:13 pm
Great work, Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 11, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
that looks so good...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 11, 2015, 05:11:55 pm
Thank the gods the guy standing in front of me die so I could take his springfield. I hit B with my Mississippi and lost it xD.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on April 11, 2015, 05:14:30 pm
Y'know, if The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly were one of the selections, I'd hit it in a heartbeat! Zulu Dawn it is then 8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 11, 2015, 05:38:54 pm
Can't wait to do some more testing today  ;) Also, to the people who are complaining about the foreign intervention, let me tell you that the units available for it are so fun to use.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 11, 2015, 07:25:46 pm
My gods Hinkel has updated his avatar!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on April 11, 2015, 07:55:39 pm
Y'know, if The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly were one of the selections, I'd hit it in a heartbeat! Zulu Dawn it is then 8)

YES! Any Spaghetti western for that matter :D Or Joesy Wales, thats a damn good Civil War period Western.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 11, 2015, 08:26:47 pm
My gods Hinkel has updated his avatar!

Yeah, my War of Rights soldier.. ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 11, 2015, 09:33:42 pm
The screen shots are lovely.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 11, 2015, 11:03:56 pm
I wish I was a NaS 1.0 beta tester :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 11, 2015, 11:13:34 pm
Don't we all, it's not long now anyway.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on April 11, 2015, 11:50:23 pm
Hehe, that is me Stonewall  8) It was awesome  :D ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 12, 2015, 01:45:21 am
I wish I was a NaS 1.0 beta tester :(
From about the 4 hours I have played of it, it feels like a whole new game. I also really love the new units! (The 72nd Mexican Guerrilla Infantry  8))
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on April 12, 2015, 04:18:04 am
We did have a nice beta test. hopefully there was enough footage for YouTube
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 12, 2015, 04:19:48 am
 :o Youtube footage!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 12, 2015, 04:26:31 am
We did have a nice beta test. hopefully there was enough footage for YouTube
I bet there was a lot of footage  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Napoleon23 on April 12, 2015, 05:26:31 am
I really wish I could have been a beta tester. I saw so many screenshots and it looked awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 12, 2015, 05:32:43 am
Shhhh Napoleon the 1.0 update is near! At least within the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 12, 2015, 05:43:12 am
I really wish I could have been a beta tester. I saw so many screenshots and it looked awesome!
It is very awesome! Especially when we mess around with the bugs and the new units  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on April 12, 2015, 09:55:42 am
It looks so tiny atm...  :(
But for us, its a huge deal!

Spoiler
North and South 1.0 Beta

Major Changes

- Complete redesign of all unit models and textures. In cooperation with Docm30, the modder of L'Aigle, all uniforms
  were remade and dozens were newly added! (More then 100+ new uniforms)
- In cooperation with our sister mod - "Blood & Iron" a complete new envirenment with new plants, objects, skybox and more was added!
- "Foreign Intervention": A new "what if, ..." scenario brings in troops of 4 different nations, which joined the War!
- Bleeding and Ammo resupply introduced into the game

Minor Changes

- Rebalanced stats
- Added the first 10 unique player regiments
- Added various new sound files for muskets, troops, overall atmoshphere
- Added 5th North Carolina, Hamptons Legion, 79th New York, Pennsylvania Lancers, Partisan Rangers, CSA Marines, VMI cadets, Union Zouaves and more to playable classes
- Added another Private II subclass to most units which allows more variations and units! (Line and Light Infantry within one unit)
- New voice over for the Union and Confederacy made by Comrade_Crimson
- Unique warcrys for each faction, for instance the "Fough a Ballagh" for the Irish Brigade
- Added new animations
- New graphic shaders added and ragdolls activated
- Added new weapons like the Hawken Rifle (sharpshooters), Enfield, Partisan Revolver or the Minnie Rifle
- Military Chaplains added - The bible contains a number of blessings to encourage your troops and serve the church of Hinkel
- Added ingame advertising posters for Player Armies and Youtubers
- Donators granted with Wanted Posters
- Added tons of new Mapping Objects in cooperation with The Blue and the Grey and Secession
- Newly made maps and lot of reworked maps (Mappers have to rework their 0.5 maps)
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What is a skybox ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 12, 2015, 11:09:20 am
You won't understand much... but you can have a good look at it ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-MWl5-M5I
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on April 12, 2015, 11:31:14 am
The sky is a box in NW. You play in a big box and this box is now prettier
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 12, 2015, 12:43:09 pm
I love the music that was playing in the beginning, it's from Gettysburg. What's it called?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 12, 2015, 12:56:50 pm
I wish I was a NaS 1.0 beta tester :(
From about the 4 hours I have played of it, it feels like a whole new game. I also really love the new units! (The 72nd Mexican Guerrilla Infantry  8))
Iz 72nd Mexican Guerrilla Infantry was only looking for a job when zi board force attack us!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Napoleon23 on April 12, 2015, 03:56:14 pm
You won't understand much... but you can have a good look at it ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-MWl5-M5I
Wow, that looks awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on April 12, 2015, 05:29:07 pm
Y'know, if The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly were one of the selections, I'd hit it in a heartbeat! Zulu Dawn it is then 8)

YES! Any Spaghetti western for that matter :D

 :o Another Spaghetti fan?! Are you on the SWDB forums? Have you seen A Reason to Live, a Reason to Die, Fort Yuma Gold, or The Hellbenders? Those are the first spaghetti Civil War flicks that pop into my head besides GBU.

You won't understand much... but you can have a good look at it ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-MWl5-M5I
Wow, that looks awesome!

Very nice! So, the DA getting an early release too? ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on April 12, 2015, 07:33:59 pm
You won't understand much... but you can have a good look at it ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-MWl5-M5I

As an American learning German
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccoj5lhLmSQ
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 12, 2015, 08:14:26 pm
I glady played the Beta Test. Despite some bugs and issues it's just marvellous and excelent. Just one thing i didn't liked: some units have restrict acess to regiments. Shit man, i really hated this, anyway the 8 months of development was shown with this beta, nice work Hinkel and devs!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on April 12, 2015, 08:36:30 pm
Are the smoke effects still the same? I find the current ones in 0.5 pretty heavy on framerate.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on April 12, 2015, 08:40:09 pm
I glady played the Beta Test. Despite some bugs and issues it's just marvellous and excelent. Just one thing i didn't liked: some units have restrict acess to regiments. Shit man, i really hated this, anyway the 8 months of development was shown with this beta, nice work Hinkel and devs!!!
Why would those "restricted" units be a bother? It has been like this for ages now. Deal with it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 12, 2015, 10:07:36 pm
I glady played the Beta Test. Despite some bugs and issues it's just marvellous and excelent. Just one thing i didn't liked: some units have restrict acess to regiments. Shit man, i really hated this, anyway the 8 months of development was shown with this beta, nice work Hinkel and devs!!!
I agree with Johan, just deal with it. I am a part of one of those regiments who has a special uniform, and I think of it as a gift from Hinkel and we cherish it. Although I would very much appreciate it if I could get those sexy Berdan uniforms the 1stUSSS has access to  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 12, 2015, 10:43:09 pm
We had a commander battle on the testing server today:

(https://i.imgur.com/QM6cRK6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yt2Qupk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ur7ZFEw.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 13, 2015, 02:50:22 am
can you order bots to equip bayonets? the musket slug fests got old.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 13, 2015, 03:22:43 am
We all get old son.

I agree with Johan, just deal with it. I am a part of one of those regiments who has a special uniform, and I think of it as a gift from Hinkel and we cherish it. Although I would very much appreciate it if I could get those sexy Berdan uniforms the 1stUSSS has access to  :P

Yeah man the 32nd uniforms are always the absolute boss, kinda miss those days but alas, work hasn't set me free
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 13, 2015, 03:32:44 am
We all get old son.

I agree with Johan, just deal with it. I am a part of one of those regiments who has a special uniform, and I think of it as a gift from Hinkel and we cherish it. Although I would very much appreciate it if I could get those sexy Berdan uniforms the 1stUSSS has access to  :P

Yeah man the 32nd uniforms are always the absolute boss, kinda miss those days but alas, work hasn't set me free

Oh yeah that makes perfect sense. Excellent rationalization.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 13, 2015, 05:08:36 am
Alright mate simmer down
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 13, 2015, 05:09:43 am
Alright mate simmer down
Don't worry about Forest, he can be a little grumpy at times  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on April 13, 2015, 08:45:39 am
We all get old son.

I agree with Johan, just deal with it. I am a part of one of those regiments who has a special uniform, and I think of it as a gift from Hinkel and we cherish it. Although I would very much appreciate it if I could get those sexy Berdan uniforms the 1stUSSS has access to  :P

Yeah man the 32nd uniforms are always the absolute boss, kinda miss those days but alas, work hasn't set me free

Oh yeah that makes perfect sense. Excellent rationalization.

#Forest Grump strikes again.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 13, 2015, 09:08:46 am
Its basicly our mod and if we want to add unique regiments to the mod, then its our right to do. I don't add every uniform into it and I had to denie lot of applications.
At the moment, I give access to those regiments, who are active in the community for a long time and who do some work for it, like doing huge advertising or just be overall helpfull. Also, that regiment has to be an interest unit with a fancy uniform for example.
And yes, some regiments helped me get servers running and donated some hundret dollars to get more work by Docm and were rewarded with an own unit.
I also make sure, its not a random 10 player regiment, who are active for 2 months and then leaving the mod... Such a uniform costs enough time too.

So please try accept this feature, thanks :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 13, 2015, 09:21:31 am
#gettold  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: William Jones on April 13, 2015, 10:51:30 am
Looks amazing, and the beta was a great opportunity to take part in.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Docm30 on April 13, 2015, 11:24:53 am
Did I give you permission to use one of my screenshots?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on April 13, 2015, 12:47:34 pm
Lol.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 13, 2015, 01:48:30 pm
Alright mate simmer down
Don't worry about Forest, he can be a little grumpy at times  :P

Forest is grumpy all the time -_-
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 13, 2015, 04:36:43 pm
Alright mate simmer down
Don't worry about Forest, he can be a little grumpy at times  :P

Forest is grumpy all the time -_-
Well I didn't want to be that mean  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Forest on April 13, 2015, 08:49:01 pm
Alright mate simmer down
Don't worry about Forest, he can be a little grumpy at times  :P

Forest is grumpy all the time -_-

Settle for nothing less than the best.  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 14, 2015, 02:47:51 pm
Chadman made a lovely Preview Video. Thank you for that! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR0Jve1D7Xw
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 14, 2015, 08:06:42 pm
Musicians are being added to the Foreign Faction upon popular demand :P

(https://i.imgur.com/HkJFor1.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 14, 2015, 08:27:57 pm
Chadman made a lovely Preview Video. Thank you for that! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR0Jve1D7Xw

It's a good video. Still need to finish it
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on April 15, 2015, 04:31:04 am
Hello Hinkel, since I know you have vast knowledge of the Civil War so I had a question/suggestion. From my understanding most officers during the war would have carried the model 1850 Foot Officers sword with Colonels and other staff officers using the 1850 field officer swords. Considering First Manasas was the opening of the war I couldn't think that there would be a huge shortage or equipment or that they would be trying to cut costs by using other swords. That being said why are most officers in NaS using 1860 light cavalry swords? Would the cavalry regiments being generally in the west leave a surplus of sabers in the East that were issued out in the beginning of the war? I couldn't find any evidence to suggest there were many 1860 light sabers issued to officers at Manasas but if you have some I would love to learn!

1850 Foot Officers Sword (for company level Officers)
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1850 Staff and Field Officers Sword (For higher ups, more ornate hilt and "USA" on the guard)
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(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.uZ6EEwBPe3%2fd67xLe5rfFw&pid=15.1&P=0)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 15, 2015, 05:04:59 am
Musicians are being added to the Foreign Faction upon popular demand :P

(https://i.imgur.com/HkJFor1.jpg)

Will be there french and mexican and even prussian musicians too? Anyway prussian military marchs are 10/10
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 15, 2015, 05:14:25 am
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Will be there french and mexican and even prussian musicians too? Anyway prussian military marchs are 10/10
Damn straight id have to say Preußens Gloria is my favorite.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on April 15, 2015, 04:30:27 pm
*Everyone waiting intently after seeing all the pictures and videos*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 15, 2015, 08:01:47 pm
I know right  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 17, 2015, 02:44:32 am
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Will be there french and mexican and even prussian musicians too? Anyway prussian military marchs are 10/10
Damn straight id have to say Preußens Gloria is my favorite.

Sorry but mine is this:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zk6eXvCiuo
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on April 17, 2015, 10:43:55 am
I would say my favorite is this one


[youtube]0xQHXso6MAE[/youtube]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 17, 2015, 11:13:42 am
Diplex in Action..  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnvNowXbjxI
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on April 17, 2015, 11:25:24 am
Yeeeees :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on April 17, 2015, 01:30:53 pm
Will we see Mariachi band for Mexico?? XD
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariachielmexicano.com%2Fpictures%2Fmain_02.jpg&hash=ddc93cafb1d2ca902374ecbf0612985e03054900)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Chantakey on April 17, 2015, 03:09:10 pm
Will we see Mariachi band for Mexico?? XD
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariachielmexicano.com%2Fpictures%2Fmain_02.jpg&hash=ddc93cafb1d2ca902374ecbf0612985e03054900)
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wanna make a mariachi band regiment with me we got dis shit.  We will win the war with our music.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 17, 2015, 03:34:39 pm
Will we see Mariachi band for Mexico?? XD
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariachielmexicano.com%2Fpictures%2Fmain_02.jpg&hash=ddc93cafb1d2ca902374ecbf0612985e03054900)
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wanna make a mariachi band regiment with me we got dis shit.  We will win the war with our music.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.fakeposters.com%2Fresults%2F2013%2F09%2F18%2F1nz56lfmro.jpg&hash=e0d863d6eebdd3e6dd41c40fc736a9b732928282)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dius on April 17, 2015, 04:08:42 pm
When the Beta out for public ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 17, 2015, 04:23:54 pm
When the Beta out for public ?

There won't be any public beta. When the closed beta is finished, there will be a fully release of version 1.0 :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on April 17, 2015, 04:34:51 pm
God it's sexy
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DorftheHoe on April 17, 2015, 05:26:18 pm
Will we see Mariachi band for Mexico?? XD
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariachielmexicano.com%2Fpictures%2Fmain_02.jpg&hash=ddc93cafb1d2ca902374ecbf0612985e03054900)
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Hahahaha, the sneaky Mexican Guerrillas and the mariachi band, great combo :P

Sign me up lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 17, 2015, 09:18:44 pm
I would love to join the band too!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on April 19, 2015, 08:26:37 am
I would love to join the band too!
Yolo ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on April 19, 2015, 10:47:27 am
Yolo.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 19, 2015, 08:21:46 pm
This is probably a bit late in the development for this request, but you should totally have a bit of hardtack as a face prop, that shit's great
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 19, 2015, 10:14:02 pm
This is probably a bit late in the development for this request, but you should totally have a bit of hardtack as a face prop, that shit's great
"Hardtack, fun to play with, not to eat!"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 20, 2015, 12:40:51 pm
Never a truer word spoken, went to a civil war event over the weekend and a guy cracked off a bit of his tooth on one
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 27, 2015, 02:06:06 pm
Never a truer word spoken, went to a civil war event over the weekend and a guy cracked off a bit of his tooth on one

That sounds painful
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 27, 2015, 04:44:06 pm
Never a truer word spoken, went to a civil war event over the weekend and a guy cracked off a bit of his tooth on one
They made us try hardtack in 5th grade when we basically had to roleplay as gold miners  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on April 28, 2015, 12:34:44 am
Never a truer word spoken, went to a civil war event over the weekend and a guy cracked off a bit of his tooth on one

That sounds painful

Christ yeah, he soldiered on, though in retrospect he probably should have gone to a dentist asap
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on April 28, 2015, 01:54:19 pm
While I do not want to interrupt your tales of valiant reenactors fighting to the last tooth I'd still like to know if a release is planned this month?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 28, 2015, 04:31:15 pm
While I do not want to interrupt your tales of valiant reenactors fighting to the last tooth I'd still like to know if a release is planned this month?
One will never know.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 28, 2015, 04:34:42 pm
While I do not want to interrupt your tales of valiant reenactors fighting to the last tooth I'd still like to know if a release is planned this month?
One will never know.

I know...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 28, 2015, 04:40:32 pm
For those who missed the Steam screenshots :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150428%2Fc87njyuv.jpg&hash=f0bf80d6a7f7aac08a325a285fe6805f12fe59c1)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on April 28, 2015, 04:45:10 pm
Oh dear. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.taleworlds.com%2FSmileys%2Fphpbb%2Fcontrib_ohdear.png&hash=ed4acf3a786596e645c9014e1a336cb28e11b9c4) This is awesome.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 28, 2015, 11:25:44 pm
While Parrot is fixing the last bugs, I played abit with the presentation.. :)
What do you think about that style?

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150428%2Fifzpx47m.jpg&hash=d4217a3f4e5b0f29684d5396abc0215331d0bb01)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 28, 2015, 11:55:45 pm
Just pointing it out but are those the correct pants for the era or just a simple color change from NW pants?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 28, 2015, 11:56:48 pm
Just pointing it out but are those the correct pants for the era or just a simple color change from NW pants?

Its a complete new model. There are no NW uniform models in 1.0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on April 29, 2015, 12:11:40 am
Aaaaand Zulu Dawn is officially a better civil war movie than Glory. GG.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 29, 2015, 12:30:02 am
Looks amazing Hinkel!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on April 29, 2015, 12:49:26 am
Just pointing it out but are those the correct pants for the era or just a simple color change from NW pants?

Ahh the evolution of the trouser:

(https://i.imgur.com/vZP3CS2.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 29, 2015, 12:55:25 am
I guess I find the front flap weird, since most pants had a button up fly during the era.  ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on April 29, 2015, 12:59:53 am
I'm good with the flap. Makes it some much easier.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on April 29, 2015, 01:27:16 am

Ahh the evolution of the trouser:

(https://i.imgur.com/vZP3CS2.png)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frumsatire.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2Fjizz-in-my-pants-jewish.jpg&hash=ff3fb21a5d166b446a22b612af171881a36d7f42)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on April 29, 2015, 02:17:20 am
hopefully its one of the old ones, i dont want my boys upset that their trousers are already wet before battle
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on April 29, 2015, 09:14:01 am
While Parrot is fixing the last bugs, I played abit with the presentation.. :)
What do you think about that style?

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150428%2Fifzpx47m.jpg&hash=d4217a3f4e5b0f29684d5396abc0215331d0bb01)

It's really good, want to see more ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 29, 2015, 04:37:39 pm
It's really good, want to see more ;)

Thank you... I adjusted most promo pictures.. they will look like this ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150429%2F3qm2qr9u.jpg&hash=44fd88c25ae57e13fb8d2d335a8948a2fb90f081)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DorftheHoe on April 29, 2015, 05:39:26 pm
It's really good, want to see more ;)

Thank you... I adjusted most promo pictures.. they will look like this ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150429%2F3qm2qr9u.jpg&hash=44fd88c25ae57e13fb8d2d335a8948a2fb90f081)

Awesome!  The Promo looks really good.  Bravo Hinkel.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 29, 2015, 07:42:13 pm
New facial hair?!?  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on April 29, 2015, 07:44:13 pm
Dat hair! (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.taleworlds.com%2FSmileys%2Fphpbb%2Ficon_eek.gif&hash=1e5ebadc9d684b0a366ef6d10b5c62f044ca5bed)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 29, 2015, 11:31:07 pm
Another goodie, if anybody cares...  :P

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150429/hg757jnz.jpg
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on April 30, 2015, 12:17:04 am
Hoooey Hinkel, those are some mighty fine screenies. Can't wait for 1.0 to release!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 30, 2015, 12:27:42 am
Is there a 1st Minnesota one?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on April 30, 2015, 12:40:36 am
Would love to see one for the Sharshooters or the 72ndPA? I may be a little bias lol.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 30, 2015, 04:06:30 am
Another goodie, if anybody cares...  :P

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150429/hg757jnz.jpg

Judging it, it even doesn't looks like it's made on mount & blade engine, shit man it looks like a totally different game. Anyway can you make a 11thMS one of this?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on April 30, 2015, 04:10:55 am
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It's really good, want to see more ;)

Thank you... I adjusted most promo pictures.. they will look like this ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150429%2F3qm2qr9u.jpg&hash=44fd88c25ae57e13fb8d2d335a8948a2fb90f081)

The union officer is not looking chubby as it was before :'( , i liked to play with him because it was funny to have a chubby character
Awesome!  The Promo looks really good.  Bravo Hinkel.
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on April 30, 2015, 09:40:21 am
Judging it, it even doesn't looks like it's made on mount & blade engine, shit man it looks like a totally different game. Anyway can you make a 11thMS one of this?

Just to make sure:
Those pictures are made in a 3D programm.. using the NaS 1.0 models and faces.. ;)

Spoiler
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on April 30, 2015, 04:42:20 pm
Nicolas, please put a spoiler in the quote, its taking up half the page!!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on April 30, 2015, 05:17:18 pm
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Nicolas, please put a spoiler in the quote, its taking up half the page!!!!

I know right, it gets downright annoying when the entire damned page is taken up by one guy quoting.  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 01, 2015, 02:26:19 am
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Nicolas, please put a spoiler in the quote, its taking up half the page!!!!

I know right, it gets downright annoying when the entire damned page is taken up by one guy quoting.  :o
Lol, he never listens. No spoilers and double posting  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 01, 2015, 03:12:23 am
Severe courses of action must be taken then XD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 01, 2015, 05:45:54 am
Nicolas, please put a spoiler in the quote, its taking up half the page!!!!

some stuff i quote doesn't have images, so it's not nescessary to put spoiler in text content
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 01, 2015, 05:47:03 am
Judging it, it even doesn't looks like it's made on mount & blade engine, shit man it looks like a totally different game. Anyway can you make a 11thMS one of this?

Just to make sure:
Those pictures are made in a 3D programm.. using the NaS 1.0 models and faces.. ;)

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fimages%2Fmods%2F1%2F22%2F21131%2FMississippi_Render_-_final.jpg&hash=926589ad68b4f6e5e956600334be9a03ea1a4248)
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Thank you Hinkel!!!! Despite the fact that some people around the community don't like me, you seen to do most of stuff I ask like now, anyway thanks for everything!!!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 01, 2015, 05:48:24 am
Severe courses of action must be taken then XD

As a matter of fact my double posting is justified that i reply stuff separately, i don't like to mix up everything, but anyway, i use spoiler on the media content like images and videos.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 01, 2015, 06:26:03 am
Oh ma god, he did the unthinkable, triple posting. You know you could just have one post with multiple quotes right?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on May 01, 2015, 01:01:38 pm
He took it to a whole new level.....
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on May 01, 2015, 01:04:49 pm
I can't wait anymore. (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.taleworlds.com%2FSmileys%2Fphpbb%2Ficon_eek.gif&hash=1e5ebadc9d684b0a366ef6d10b5c62f044ca5bed) (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.taleworlds.com%2FSmileys%2Fphpbb%2Fcontrib_ohdear.png&hash=ed4acf3a786596e645c9014e1a336cb28e11b9c4)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on May 01, 2015, 01:09:22 pm
No Nicolas, it is still necessary, text that you quote is sometimes bigger than images  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hardy on May 01, 2015, 01:10:03 pm
Judging it, it even doesn't looks like it's made on mount & blade engine, shit man it looks like a totally different game. Anyway can you make a 11thMS one of this?

Just to make sure:
Those pictures are made in a 3D programm.. using the NaS 1.0 models and faces.. ;)

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fimages%2Fmods%2F1%2F22%2F21131%2FMississippi_Render_-_final.jpg&hash=926589ad68b4f6e5e956600334be9a03ea1a4248)
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wow looking hot!  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 01, 2015, 03:14:22 pm
Oh ma god, he did the unthinkable, triple posting. You know you could just have one post with multiple quotes right?
Kill it! Kill it with fire before it lays eggs!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Reznov on May 01, 2015, 05:33:51 pm
Oh ma god, he did the unthinkable, triple posting. You know you could just have one post with multiple quotes right?
Kill it! Kill it with fire before it lays eggs!

+1 annyone has a rope we can borrow?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DarthTaco on May 01, 2015, 05:41:47 pm
Getting ready to throw my napsack on my back and put my rifle on my shoulder! Time to march away to the firing lines to kill some yankee soldiers. Yes that was partially taken from a song
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 01, 2015, 06:00:16 pm
Rest in development timeloop NaS
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on May 01, 2015, 06:15:41 pm
Spoiler
Oh ma god, he did the unthinkable, triple posting. You know you could just have one post with multiple quotes right?
Kill it! Kill it with fire before it lays eggs!

+1 annyone has a rope we can borrow?
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Yes! *Gives Rope*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 01, 2015, 06:24:06 pm
Who likes sieges? Personally, I like sieges...

(https://i.imgur.com/HH2Ge2l.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 01, 2015, 06:26:44 pm
I like sieges too there pretty fun.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 01, 2015, 06:35:30 pm
Especially boat assault sieges, they're extremely fun  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dekkers on May 01, 2015, 07:19:36 pm
Who likes sieges? Personally, I like sieges...

(https://i.imgur.com/HH2Ge2l.jpg)

Water is gone? wat

Looks quite nice tho
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on May 01, 2015, 07:33:31 pm
Who likes sieges? Personally, I like sieges...

(https://i.imgur.com/HH2Ge2l.jpg)

Water is gone? wat

Looks quite nice tho

Don't think the water is gone, just is really clear and reflective with the lighting; if you look through the cannon holes then you'll see the blue in it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 02, 2015, 04:08:44 am
Oh ma god, he did the unthinkable, triple posting. You know you could just have one post with multiple quotes right?

NYET, CYKA

He took it to a whole new level.....

Thank you sir.

No Nicolas, it is still necessary, text that you quote is sometimes bigger than images  ::)

Still, images cover hell lot more space and texts don't so you know....


Edit: Moved your separate posts into one post. I won't be doing this again. - Parrot
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 02, 2015, 11:02:39 am
Just a reminder to everyone, Article 4 of the FSE forum rules states the following:

Quote
4. Spamming
Making unnecessary posts with no valuable content will be regarded as breaking the forum rules and punished accordingly. Try to avoid double posting whenever it is possible. If you want to add something to your post then please edit it, do not make a new one - please do not post the same thing on several places of the forum without permission. Be aware that posting unnecessary content (such as quote pyramids or off-topic posting of image macros or GIFs) can also constitute spamming.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 02, 2015, 06:28:45 pm
Thank you for editing his post Lord Parrot.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on May 02, 2015, 06:32:46 pm
To answer the poll, actually everything.

Parrot if I may ask, where do you get all those slash sounds from when u slash someone with ur bayonet or sword? Where did you get it from :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 02, 2015, 07:02:55 pm
As a mapper I find parrots props just sexy
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 02, 2015, 07:23:04 pm
Speaking of maps, has anyone made a map of Fort Wagner? Would love to reenact Glory with it  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 02, 2015, 07:25:32 pm
Speaking off maps, has anyone made a ma of Fort Wagner? Would love to reenact Glory with it  ::)
There is a new 54thMA regiment :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 02, 2015, 09:52:31 pm
In-game screenshots? Everyone enjoys in-game screenshots...

(https://i.imgur.com/I3xU7qO.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 02, 2015, 10:32:09 pm
In-game screenshots? Everyone enjoys in-game screenshots...

(https://i.imgur.com/I3xU7qO.jpg)
Will all the old facial hair still be there as well as the old face textures? I really want to have my old face in the new update.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 02, 2015, 10:38:52 pm
Will all the old facial hair still be there as well as the old face textures? I really want to have my old face in the new update.

The former NaS facial hair is still there, with the mustaches and the pipes and the cigars and stuffs; but it won't be the same as NW. However, it will be the same as the next Blood and Iron update, which is just as good, if not better.

The facial hair has a slightly different order than previous versions of the mod, so you'll have to pop into the editor and choose some nice new hair.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 02, 2015, 10:45:56 pm
Parrot, your character gets prettier by every update in NaS :D lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on May 02, 2015, 10:59:45 pm
Just to clarify, and I don't think it'll change, but will the same settings for facial features carry over in the new update? I believe that's all part of Native and the way that works, but I thought I'd still ask :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 02, 2015, 11:42:22 pm
This is one of the most promising mods.
Joined the steam group - I can't wait!  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 03, 2015, 07:57:23 am
Wtf is that on the right??
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on May 03, 2015, 09:15:06 pm
Hinkel if it wouldn't be too much trouble could you put the .5 download back up until 1.0 is released? It would allow new players to continue to get interested.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 03, 2015, 09:23:32 pm
Quote
Hinkel if it wouldn't be too much trouble could you put the .5 download back up until 1.0 is released? It would allow new players to continue to get interested.

It would be great if that was done. Other mods keep up the older versions so why not NAS.  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 03, 2015, 09:25:43 pm
 I found the download link for 0.5 in a steam group, but I agree, you should put the link back up for everyone to use.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 03, 2015, 09:42:03 pm
Hinkel if it wouldn't be too much trouble could you put the .5 download back up until 1.0 is released? It would allow new players to continue to get interested.

I accidentally removed the download link of 0.5 to early..
Would be good, if the big armies provide the download for newcomers.

I don't own the 0.5 version any more..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 03, 2015, 09:47:13 pm
I have the 0.5 file if anyone wants it..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on May 03, 2015, 09:48:55 pm
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28.0 it's on this thread people just don't look :/
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 03, 2015, 10:00:35 pm
Thank you Hairy! ;)

Good to have a helping hand hehe



Btw.. I reworked the moddb page for the upcoming release:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/north-south-first-manassas
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 03, 2015, 10:11:27 pm
Bootiful the new modb! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 03, 2015, 10:45:44 pm
Omg.

Moddb and the uni's are amazing..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 05, 2015, 03:48:32 am
In-game screenshots? Everyone enjoys in-game screenshots...

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/I3xU7qO.jpg)
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WTF is that model on the right, sounds interesting anyway
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 05, 2015, 04:43:51 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcv2Ybxybmg
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on May 05, 2015, 01:57:24 pm
In-game screenshots? Everyone enjoys in-game screenshots...

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/I3xU7qO.jpg)
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WTF is that model on the right, sounds interesting anyway

Well, if you participated in the poll and know a bit of VG history, you could recognize that as Manny Calavera from Grim Fandango ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on May 05, 2015, 05:39:52 pm
Video game history? Must'a been bored out of your mind.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on May 05, 2015, 09:56:01 pm
Video game history? Must'a been bored out of your mind.

Well, considering most of the people on this forum and involved in these mods are history fans/nuts, shouldn't be very surprising :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on May 06, 2015, 01:27:32 am
Fair enough.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 07, 2015, 05:13:51 am
Start all them bugles playin
Listen to the trumps begin
Ten thousand men a marchin
The south shall rise again...

No, Susannah, oh, don't you sit an spin
If we all turn out with a rebel shout
The south shall rise again...

Courtesy of the Confederate Undead, a unit of the ACW Brothers vs Brothers v3.6 mod for Empire: Total War  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 08, 2015, 11:53:00 am
Just a quick statement to the progress of 1.0:

The new version is kinda ready since some days. We had 3 Beta-Tests so far and to be honest, its pretty big and epic.

We have 2 bugs left, we would like to fix. We could release it earlier, but without those fixes, the gameplay would be bit to hard (its something with the bandages).
Real-Life problems are pushing back the work on those fixes atm, but we are very close to a release.

When the new version is done, we will need some more days to prepare the downloads links, setting up 2 or 3 servers, testing those servers and such.

Sorry for all those delays, but its worth to wait! ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 08, 2015, 12:31:58 pm
It's not a big problem wait one or two weeks more after being waiting for months, good work team, this will be awesome!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 08, 2015, 03:34:54 pm
I will gladly wait for this awesome update! But the impatient side of me is like..
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F53%2F537cbcb6d24c4b67f4abf0da57d76fed6a7578f0ba5332d088b86d6a3f152224.jpg&hash=1103f38269e250b43b1ea6d431b40590b6eaf56c)
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 08, 2015, 06:38:01 pm
I will gladly wait for this awesome update! But the impatient side of me is like..
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F53%2F537cbcb6d24c4b67f4abf0da57d76fed6a7578f0ba5332d088b86d6a3f152224.jpg&hash=1103f38269e250b43b1ea6d431b40590b6eaf56c)
 ;D ;D ;D

Give in to your Impatient! Only our impatient can make it faster!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 08, 2015, 07:14:19 pm
Just a quick statement to the progress of 1.0:

The new version is kinda ready since some days. We had 3 Beta-Tests so far and to be honest, its pretty big and epic.

We have 2 bugs left, we would like to fix. We could release it earlier, but without those fixes, the gameplay would be bit to hard (its something with the bandages).
Real-Life problems are pushing back the work on those fixes atm, but we are very close to a release.

When the new version is done, we will need some more days to prepare the downloads links, setting up 2 or 3 servers, testing those servers and such.

Sorry for all those delays, but its worth to wait! ;)
Will this mean there will be another beta test before the full release?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 08, 2015, 08:59:26 pm
I wish i was part of those beta's. This wait has me like  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 08, 2015, 09:10:21 pm
I wish i was part of those beta's. This wait has me like  :'(

I was in one, so you know man, most regiment guy are reading me. But i will say it anyway, they butthurted because i had it and i wasn't from regs like 26thDA and the other popular DA regiments or of the UA
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 08, 2015, 10:06:54 pm
How long do you expect for you to fix those 2 bugs lord Hinkel?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 09, 2015, 12:03:57 am
How long do you expect for you to fix those 2 bugs lord Hinkel?

When I get the time :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 09, 2015, 01:09:48 am
I wish i was part of those beta's. This wait has me like  :'(

I was in one, so you know man, most regiment guy are reading me. But i will say it anyway, they butthurted because i had it and i wasn't from regs like 26thDA and the other popular DA regiments or of the UA
They were, as you put it, "butthurted"  because most individual players should have not gotten it unless Hinkel gave it to them. Also, RIP in Pepperonis English.  :-X
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on May 09, 2015, 01:02:43 pm
Spoiler
I wish i was part of those beta's. This wait has me like  :'(

I was in one, so you know man, most regiment guy are reading me. But i will say it anyway, they butthurted because i had it and i wasn't from regs like 26thDA and the other popular DA regiments or of the UA
They were, as you put it, "butthurted"  because most individual players should have not gotten it unless Hinkel gave it to them. Also, RIP in Pepperonis English.  :-X
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Yup, RIP English. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on May 09, 2015, 07:24:41 pm
How long do you expect for you to fix those 2 bugs lord Hinkel?

When I get the time :P
Now we got to the bottom of it. It's all Parrot's fault! jk  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 09, 2015, 07:47:59 pm
How long do you expect for you to fix those 2 bugs lord Hinkel?

When I get the time :P
Are these bugs that require a lot of time to fix Sir?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 09, 2015, 08:17:30 pm
I am wondering the same.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 09, 2015, 08:42:42 pm
Parrot has to fix a bug with the Gatlings for the next B&I version since last autumn already if that helps  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 09, 2015, 09:29:10 pm
Parrot has to fix a bug with the Gatlings for the next B&I version since last autumn already if that helps  ;)
NaS 1.0 = May 2085 lol  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 09, 2015, 09:38:32 pm
Sounds amazing, ill mark it on the calendar!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 09, 2015, 10:58:31 pm
Parrot has to fix a bug with the Gatlings for the next B&I version since last autumn already if that helps  ;)
NaS 1.0 = May 2085 lol  ;D

lel xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 10, 2015, 12:45:48 am
Parrot has to fix a bug with the Gatlings for the next B&I version since last autumn already if that helps  ;)

I've never said that B&I will have Gatling guns :P

And these things with NaS will only require me to sit down and get on with it, they won't take that long. It's the sitting down part that's the problem; today I left my house at 6:30am and only just got back (at 23:45)...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 10, 2015, 01:32:17 am
Parrot has to fix a bug with the Gatlings for the next B&I version since last autumn already if that helps  ;)

I've never said that B&I will have Gatling guns :P

And these things with NaS will only require me to sit down and get on with it, they won't take that long. It's the sitting down part that's the problem; today I left my house at 6:30am and only just got back (at 23:45)...
Start clicking that mouse and typing on that keyboard fixing things Parrot  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 10, 2015, 11:23:37 am
Screw social life.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 10, 2015, 01:37:49 pm
Screw social life.

Social life? You mean Game life!  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 10, 2015, 05:12:55 pm
I keep coming back here to look at the uniforms in the moddb link. Why must all of these features look so amazing!  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 10, 2015, 07:38:31 pm
The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 10, 2015, 07:41:45 pm
The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.

Well, its basicly pretty easy.

You can choose the Line rifle, which has a bayonet.. or the Skirmish rifle, which does not have a bayonet.. ;)
Its a balancing idea.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 10, 2015, 08:18:37 pm
wink wink nudge nudge  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on May 11, 2015, 12:32:14 am
The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.

Well, its basicly pretty easy.

You can choose the Line rifle, which has a bayonet.. or the Skirmish rifle, which does not have a bayonet.. ;)
Its a balancing idea.

Will the Mississippi still have the bayonet like in the beta?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 11, 2015, 01:08:16 am
The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.

Well, its basicly pretty easy.

You can choose the Line rifle, which has a bayonet.. or the Skirmish rifle, which does not have a bayonet.. ;)
Its a balancing idea.

Will the Mississippi still have the bayonet like in the beta?

As far as I know Mississippi Rifle does not have bayonet lel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on May 11, 2015, 02:26:06 am
Spoiler
The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.

Well, its basicly pretty easy.

You can choose the Line rifle, which has a bayonet.. or the Skirmish rifle, which does not have a bayonet.. ;)
Its a balancing idea.

Will the Mississippi still have the bayonet like in the beta?

As far as I know Mississippi Rifle does not have bayonet lel
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Oh she has a bayonet :D, and she should have a bayonet

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcivilwartalk.com%2Fattachments%2F425950_10150625245357920_703447155_n-jpg.5785%2F&hash=25f9e0ec7f04eb9eaac43949f8815ba0cf19136b)
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.NkjD8AUH%2f5PvCzlwziK31g&pid=15.1)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on May 11, 2015, 05:00:44 am
Spoiler
The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.

Well, its basicly pretty easy.

You can choose the Line rifle, which has a bayonet.. or the Skirmish rifle, which does not have a bayonet.. ;)
Its a balancing idea.

Will the Mississippi still have the bayonet like in the beta?

As far as I know Mississippi Rifle does not have bayonet lel
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Oh she has a bayonet :D, and she should have a bayonet

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcivilwartalk.com%2Fattachments%2F425950_10150625245357920_703447155_n-jpg.5785%2F&hash=25f9e0ec7f04eb9eaac43949f8815ba0cf19136b)
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.NkjD8AUH%2f5PvCzlwziK31g&pid=15.1)

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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 11, 2015, 06:29:31 am
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The only feature that worries me is the lack of bayonets for many weapons. But I guess that will make for some easy melee when my boys roll up.

Well, its basicly pretty easy.

You can choose the Line rifle, which has a bayonet.. or the Skirmish rifle, which does not have a bayonet.. ;)
Its a balancing idea.

Will the Mississippi still have the bayonet like in the beta?

As far as I know Mississippi Rifle does not have bayonet lel
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Oh she has a bayonet :D, and she should have a bayonet

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcivilwartalk.com%2Fattachments%2F425950_10150625245357920_703447155_n-jpg.5785%2F&hash=25f9e0ec7f04eb9eaac43949f8815ba0cf19136b)
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=JN.NkjD8AUH%2f5PvCzlwziK31g&pid=15.1)

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Please, no.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 11, 2015, 07:55:29 am
A good balance would be theyre slower with attacks kinda like how the 1842 is in 0.5 compared to the 1855.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ManlyMan on May 11, 2015, 07:58:57 am
Are the Sharpshooter Rifles going to swing slower in melee? Because everytime I fight then I get killed because I can never attack back.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 11, 2015, 08:01:03 am
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Are the Sharpshooter Rifles going to swing slower in melee? Because everytime I fight then I get killed because I can never attack back.

That is so damned true! They need a nerf.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 11, 2015, 08:26:38 am
Polar, I meant in game lol in-game it does not have a bayonet.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 11, 2015, 02:28:08 pm
Will the Mississippi still have the bayonet like in the beta?

That "bayonet" was one of the first things we fixed :P


Are the Sharpshooter Rifles going to swing slower in melee? Because everytime I fight then I get killed because I can never attack back.

All the weapons were re-balanced, one of the reasons those non-bayoneted rifles were so OP was because they had the same length as the bayoneted ones. That's been fixed now, all rifles have a length that actually matches their mesh.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: OttoFIN on May 11, 2015, 02:56:39 pm
Will 1.0 have ability to salute and surrender like in IE?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 11, 2015, 02:57:53 pm
Will 1.0 have ability to salute and surrender like in IE?

I think only salute just as the 0.5, but would be nice the surrender too to have :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 11, 2015, 02:59:44 pm
Will 1.0 have ability to salute and surrender like in IE?

The surrender is unlocked for the french units.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 11, 2015, 03:04:41 pm
Will 1.0 have ability to salute and surrender like in IE?

The surrender is unlocked for the french units.
And let the hate flow forth
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 11, 2015, 03:16:45 pm
Will 1.0 have ability to salute and surrender like in IE?

The surrender is unlocked for the french units.
And let the hate flow forth

btw congratz on 100th page for all of us :D would be nice have a download link on the 100th page tho xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSgJeVwjnpc
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 11, 2015, 03:55:57 pm
Will 1.0 have ability to salute and surrender like in IE?

The surrender is unlocked for the french units.
And let the hate flow forth

btw congratz on 100th page for all of us :D would be nice have a download link on the 100th page tho xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSgJeVwjnpc
There is a download and there always have been. The 0.5 version is always available...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 11, 2015, 04:03:50 pm
A kneeslapper eh
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 11, 2015, 08:18:45 pm
Happy 100 Pages!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 11, 2015, 08:29:37 pm
100 is release of 1.0 right? :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 11, 2015, 11:32:08 pm
100 pages shut it down banbanbanbanbanban
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 11, 2015, 11:34:06 pm
Let's have a challenge: Nobody comments unless a dev with an update and see how long people can last without typing a message.  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on May 12, 2015, 12:22:22 am
Let's have a challenge: Nobody comments unless a dev with an update and see how long people can last without typing a message.  ::)

Ugh.. must.. resist.... AHHH Cant do it :D Happy 100 :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 12, 2015, 03:51:00 am
My god illuminati konfirmed 1.0 released!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 12, 2015, 04:41:58 am
My god illuminati konfirmed 1.0 released!
if this is a lie do not lie like this, It can mentally damage people for their entire life  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 12, 2015, 06:30:57 am
My god illuminati konfirmed 1.0 released!
Guys, good god. Stop spamming.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 12, 2015, 08:54:43 am
happy 100  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 12, 2015, 09:49:29 am
while(page == 100)
       nas_dev = false;
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 12, 2015, 03:15:28 pm
while(page == 100)
       nas_release = true;

Fixed darling
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 12, 2015, 03:43:27 pm
Pls Hinkel, add the Stonewall Jackson's beard :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 12, 2015, 04:17:07 pm
Evolution of the beard.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2uszssj.jpg&hash=663b382a7638827fce0669483d1e6edcb5ddbbad)
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Also, imagine singleplayer N&S?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 12, 2015, 07:16:50 pm
You know what would be amazing? a page 101 release ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 12, 2015, 10:14:40 pm
You know what would be amazing? a page 101 release ;)

Heh.  :P
I agree.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 13, 2015, 12:45:29 am
You know what would be amazing? Letting the devs enjoy their work and not be pressured by people who can't make such a mod themselves.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 13, 2015, 03:12:18 am
You know what would be amazing? Letting the devs enjoy their work and not be pressured by people who can't make such a mod themselves.
I never mean my comment's about release seriously. All my statements are fun and jokes no pressure on the devs, I don't know about the others that post here but I respect the time the devs take to create these amazing mods.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 13, 2015, 06:52:20 am
I feel the friendly pressure we've been seeing is meant more as a compliment. It shows that people really like what they see and anticipate the new patch. A lot lol. But then again I can't speak for how devs feel.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 13, 2015, 12:23:59 pm
Well, something different. Preparing the new Steam Workshop page to get some new guys into the mod! :)
As soon as it is released, you should spam that page.. favourise it and rate up.. so we will be the Number #1 for a long period :D

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150513%2Fqrrl9cna.jpg&hash=0be78ecef139d65f84e596bfed832f5a09d94da9)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 13, 2015, 12:44:34 pm
Sir yes sir!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: dukeofwellington on May 13, 2015, 12:51:15 pm
An amazing post Civil War song from 1866
https://youtu.be/fx9d2COu55Y
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 13, 2015, 01:02:06 pm
Well, something different. Preparing the new Steam Workshop page to get some new guys into the mod! :)
As soon as it is released, you should spam that page.. favourise it and rate up.. so we will be the Number #1 for a long period :D

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150513%2Fqrrl9cna.jpg&hash=0be78ecef139d65f84e596bfed832f5a09d94da9)
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Yes General sir!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: usnavy30 on May 14, 2015, 06:36:58 pm
Well, something different. Preparing the new Steam Workshop page to get some new guys into the mod! :)
As soon as it is released, you should spam that page.. favourise it and rate up.. so we will be the Number #1 for a long period :D

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150513%2Fqrrl9cna.jpg&hash=0be78ecef139d65f84e596bfed832f5a09d94da9)
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Oh did they add a useful purple notification so people realize the first time a mod may require a DLC like Napoleonic Wars? I have to check on that.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 14, 2015, 09:06:07 pm
Any news on when the Steam Workshop will be released, or will it be released the same day as 1.0?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: TheScottishChé on May 16, 2015, 12:05:20 am
I heard a rumour that 1.0 is being released this weekend, please tell me this is true?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 16, 2015, 12:50:35 am
I heard a rumour that 1.0 is being released this weekend, please tell me this is true?

We can only hope as soon as it is possible.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 16, 2015, 01:09:03 am
I heard a rumour that 1.0 is being released this weekend, please tell me this is true?

False rumours... I would announce it here.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 16, 2015, 01:12:45 pm
I heard a rumour that 1.0 is being released this weekend, please tell me this is true?

False rumours... I would announce it here.

Don't trust people and "rumors" like that. People could tell you that BCOF is being released tomorrow :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 16, 2015, 01:28:14 pm
Don't trust people and "rumors" like that. People could tell you that BCOF is being released tomorrow :P
The Devs could tell me that BCoF is being released tomorrow and I wouldn't believe them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 16, 2015, 01:37:25 pm
Don't trust people and "rumors" like that. People could tell you that BCOF is being released tomorrow :P
The Devs could tell me that BCoF is being released tomorrow and I wouldn't believe them.

+1
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 16, 2015, 05:21:56 pm
Don't trust people and "rumors" like that. People could tell you that BCOF is being released tomorrow :P
The Devs could tell me that BCoF is being released tomorrow and I wouldn't believe them.

Hehe. At this point I think the same goes for everyone here.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 16, 2015, 06:08:17 pm
If anyone has already seen the Irish winter coats on the moddb page, I updated their uniforms:

Before
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fcache%2Fimages%2Fmods%2F1%2F22%2F21131%2Fthumb_620x2000%2FIrish_Render_2_-_final.jpg&hash=87bb10ab56fc37cbb16858088ccaef3f7223970a)
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After
(https://i.imgur.com/MBFlRxR.png)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on May 16, 2015, 06:08:41 pm
10/10 would snuggle up with for warmth
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 16, 2015, 06:22:05 pm
 :(/10 "Give release pls"-IGN
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 16, 2015, 06:22:27 pm
Simply amazing.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 16, 2015, 07:07:14 pm
It would be cool if there was a way when its raining on a map you were wearing a great coat no matter what class.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 16, 2015, 07:10:26 pm
It would be cool if there was a way when its raining on a map you were wearing a great coat no matter what class.

I would donate you a huge amount of bucks, if you could provide that script! ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 16, 2015, 07:11:50 pm
Sadly I am a pleb that does not know the dark art of scripting  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 16, 2015, 07:46:41 pm
Haha.

That would be a good feature indeed.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 16, 2015, 07:50:21 pm
All in good fun :D
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/558x347q90/537/6SjyBC.png)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on May 16, 2015, 08:49:47 pm
If anyone has already seen the Irish winter coats on the moddb page, I updated their uniforms:
Spoiler
Before
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fcache%2Fimages%2Fmods%2F1%2F22%2F21131%2Fthumb_620x2000%2FIrish_Render_2_-_final.jpg&hash=87bb10ab56fc37cbb16858088ccaef3f7223970a)
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After
(https://i.imgur.com/MBFlRxR.png)
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Intresting, I like it. They seem more natural


It would be cool if there was a way when its raining on a map you were wearing a great coat no matter what class.

I would donate you a huge amount of bucks, if you could provide that script! ;)

Perhaps you could "borrow" one from ole Doc and his band of eagles aye? :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 16, 2015, 10:11:09 pm
Tried it ingame now.. the officer looks so damn fancy! :D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150516%2Fzj5kp64o.jpg&hash=c09609040b4cc6467f4c8b30bc0815ee69584eff)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 16, 2015, 10:13:04 pm
Omg, awesome! Stop making me jealous! :D

I can't stop looking at it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 16, 2015, 10:28:51 pm
can the sky of every map be that pastelish orangish color?

actually, can everything be that pastelish orangish color?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Furrnox on May 16, 2015, 10:42:51 pm
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Tried it ingame now.. the officer looks so damn fancy! :D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150516%2Fzj5kp64o.jpg&hash=c09609040b4cc6467f4c8b30bc0815ee69584eff)
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview4%2F1175034%2Fsally-s-orgasm-o.gif&hash=c4ce9a7ccd07df5d1680efe9bd9c63a407b42248)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Frederik on May 17, 2015, 09:57:31 pm
please release NaS on floppydisk
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 17, 2015, 10:08:58 pm
We need more floppydisk support!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 17, 2015, 10:11:23 pm
please release NaS on floppydisk

Alright, but you would need about 1.500 floppydisks for that.. :(

Which is insane.. a single North and South texture file has the size of an entire floppy disk game back in the 80's!  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Frederik on May 17, 2015, 10:51:43 pm


Alright, but you would need about 1.500 floppydisks for that.. :(

Which is insane.. a single North and South texture file has the size of an entire floppy disk game back in the 80's!  :o
would the mod still be for free?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 17, 2015, 10:55:31 pm


Alright, but you would need about 1.500 floppydisks for that.. :(

Which is insane.. a single North and South texture file has the size of an entire floppy disk game back in the 80's!  :o
would the mod still be for free?

If you pay for the floppy's ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 18, 2015, 07:46:32 am
Time to get buying!  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 18, 2015, 02:23:21 pm
I was just informed, that the Union Army got 1.000 players on the paper now!  ;D
Seeing, that there were 600 UA soldiers fighting in the saturday LB last week, I can't imagine, how the community will grow with the release of 1.0! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 18, 2015, 02:34:54 pm
Now there is a Confederate division too ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on May 18, 2015, 03:15:55 pm
Now there is a Confederate division too ;D

Hehe yes including our lovely new Confederate Division ;) Btw hinkel it was nearly 400 just say  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Swiftwisp on May 18, 2015, 03:26:46 pm
The 32nd anticipate the 1.0 release :) I really don't like Long rifles, too long to reload, gets you killed more often then saves you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0JbjXXnhe4
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 18, 2015, 04:01:17 pm
Aw, the animations are the same?  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 18, 2015, 04:25:18 pm
Swiftwisp the 32ndMA don't even use the skin pack that Hinkel took the time to make for the UA. He made you lot a skin in it and you outright rejected so if you're anticipated then think of much hype the rest of us who give a proper damn feel.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 18, 2015, 04:48:58 pm
Aw, the animations are the same?  :-\

What do you mean?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 18, 2015, 04:55:14 pm
Aw, the animations are the same?  :-\

What do you mean?

I think he thought it was 1.0. Wingster they were just playing NaS 0.5 as the post said "Anticipating the release of 1.0" not playtesting it :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: FroFro on May 18, 2015, 05:21:24 pm
Swiftwisp the 32ndMA don't even use the skin pack that Hinkel took the time to make for the UA. He made you lot a skin in it and you outright rejected so if you're anticipated then think of much hype the rest of us who give a proper damn feel.
Lance doesnt bring the 32ndMA into our teamspeak etc. where all of this info is located. So how would they know?

Why dont you do yourself a favor and take the rod out your arse and stop biting at everyone lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Swiftwisp on May 18, 2015, 05:53:58 pm
I prefer the Vanilla textures for NaS, plus we get an intervention faction which is really sweet, but I don't see why you think the 32nd are not 'giving a proper damn feel'. We attend the event every Saturday, if we didn't care we wouldn't go.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 18, 2015, 06:43:58 pm
I prefer the Vanilla textures for NaS, plus we get an intervention faction which is really sweet.
And that is a personally choice which I accept fully and the intervention unit is pretty sweet.

Lance doesnt bring the 32ndMA into our teamspeak etc. where all of this info is located. So how would they know?

To my knowledge Lance and all the other officer of the 32ndMA where give the link when it was first made. I have been told after asking why aren't the 32ndMA aren't using their unit "Oh they don't have the skin pack because Lance didn't like it". I have seen Colonel Lance, Major Hugo and Captain gurudennis all on the UA's TS on multiple occasions, even if the men aren't on they still have the ability to distribute the link freely.

I must apologies for my outburst though, it was out of line and I am sorry. I just get very annoyed when people have very bloated opinions of their regiments and fail to even credit the faults they might have.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Swiftwisp on May 19, 2015, 12:28:21 am
It's only a vid man, bit of propaganda, of course I'm gunna blow it out of proportion :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arcturus on May 19, 2015, 01:37:14 am
I was just informed, that the Union Army got 1.000 players on the paper now!  ;D
Seeing, that there were 600 UA soldiers fighting in the saturday LB last week, I can't imagine, how the community will grow with the release of 1.0! :)

If you could take a picture of the Union Army now it would look like this:

1000 men
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fww2db.com%2Fimages%2Fother_none1147.jpg&hash=bbbeee1f8433c2b2d1313a0a357e425770d27fc1)

(Swearing in of 1,000 men into US Army 1st Filipino Infantry Regiment at the end of a bond rally, Camp Beale, California, United States, date unknown)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on May 19, 2015, 04:18:14 am
I was just informed, that the Union Army got 1.000 players on the paper now!  ;D
Seeing, that there were 600 UA soldiers fighting in the saturday LB last week, I can't imagine, how the community will grow with the release of 1.0! :)

If you could take a picture of the Union Army now it would look like this:

1000 men
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fww2db.com%2Fimages%2Fother_none1147.jpg&hash=bbbeee1f8433c2b2d1313a0a357e425770d27fc1)

(Swearing in of 1,000 men into US Army 1st Filipino Infantry Regiment at the end of a bond rally, Camp Beale, California, United States, date unknown)
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Off topic, but hooray for the Filipinos  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 19, 2015, 06:28:01 pm
Just made a small test.. 0.5 to 1.0.
I am aware, that not everybody likes the new style... :)

Spoiler
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Spoiler
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 19, 2015, 07:15:15 pm
the new is more brighter and colorful :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on May 19, 2015, 08:17:14 pm
I like it looks authentic  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 19, 2015, 08:19:14 pm
Just made a small test.. 0.5 to 1.0.
I am aware, that not everybody likes the new style... :)
...

You had to switch the before and after for the second image :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 19, 2015, 08:21:13 pm
It looks much more realistic!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 19, 2015, 10:57:40 pm
Just made a small test.. 0.5 to 1.0.
I am aware, that not everybody likes the new style... :)

Spoiler
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Spoiler
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Just a heads up, Hinkel: If you turn off "Fast Water Reflections" at the bottom of your graphics settings, you'll get a more sparkly and realistic looking water.

Other than that, amazing work!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 20, 2015, 05:01:53 pm
Just made a small test.. 0.5 to 1.0.
I am aware, that not everybody likes the new style... :)

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150519%2F5vrd6zdm.jpg&hash=8dbee0c5bc6c56c5369070cbf560c090406c3d5c)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs2.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150519%2Fcb9cu85j.jpg&hash=77d5e777725a8451b9626336353f63437144d798)
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Fantastic.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 21, 2015, 03:42:26 am
Way. Way. Better.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 21, 2015, 09:57:53 am
I dislike the new trees. Looks like bamboo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 21, 2015, 11:19:32 am
I dislike the new trees. Looks like bamboo
You don't know what bamboo looks like then...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 21, 2015, 07:21:06 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the game that does actually look like it's coming out....War of Rights (The game in the loading screen)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IHTCLY7YNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImSMktotpoY
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 21, 2015, 07:31:55 pm
If it only had third person view...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 21, 2015, 07:35:34 pm
If it only had third person view...

Its definatly not needed. A game set in an authentic and realistic world would be destroyed with a third person view.
You should feel like your soldiers, be your soldier.. a third person view is bit like cheating and is destroying most of its atmosphere..  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 21, 2015, 07:42:41 pm
I agree. I like first person.
But it would be hard for regiments.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 21, 2015, 07:51:15 pm
I agree. I like first person.
But it would be hard for regiments.
Trust me. It really won't be as those regiments that aren't cut out for this will rage quite leaving only the best.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 21, 2015, 07:53:47 pm
I shall be very hard, looks like its time to drill the boys until their keyboards break.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 21, 2015, 08:55:29 pm
I love the 1st person view, and I think a "hardcore" mode will be nice, without HUD, less health...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on May 21, 2015, 10:46:14 pm
I shall be very hard, looks like its time to drill the boys until their keyboards break.

That sounds boring as fuck xD Good thing I'm not them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: michaelsmithern on May 22, 2015, 04:27:15 am
I love the 1st person view, and I think a "hardcore" mode will be nice, without HUD, less health...
Dammit, now i have to train harder
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 22, 2015, 05:17:38 am
muahahahahaahaha
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 22, 2015, 08:33:06 am
If it only had third person view...

Its definatly not needed. A game set in an authentic and realistic world would be destroyed with a third person view.
You should feel like your soldiers, be your soldier.. a third person view is bit like cheating and is destroying most of its atmosphere..  :-\

For me it doesnt destroy the atmosphere but I can understand that it does for some people. The thing is just that I fear any kind of formation will be so much harder and maybe even too hard to perform without a third person view. I for example always use third person view in NW Linebattles (except for shooting) because otherwise I always run into my mates when in formation.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 22, 2015, 09:07:51 am
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For me it doesnt destroy the atmosphere but I can understand that it does for some people. The thing is just that I fear any kind of formation will be so much harder and maybe even too hard to perform without a third person view. I for example always use third person view in NW Linebattles (except for shooting) because otherwise I always run into my mates when in formation.

But wait you new feature! Even jogging will cause you to lose stamina, marching at single time will be the only way to get into battle. Obviously not true but if it was that would be hardcore.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sc4rfoo on May 22, 2015, 04:47:09 pm
The balance between the old NaS and the new one is important!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 22, 2015, 06:46:35 pm
Found this video, incase you were thinking of adding unique animations for the British Enfield, it's pretty interesting.  :P
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAu4YuiqN9o[/youtube]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MackCW on May 23, 2015, 03:06:56 pm
Found this video, incase you were thinking of adding unique animations for the British Enfield, it's pretty interesting.  :P
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAu4YuiqN9o[/youtube]

Cool vid and some similar movements to McClellan's bayo manual that he wrote. But it's not what American armies of the time would of used. McClellan's manual can be found here:

http://www.64thill.org/drillmanuals/mcclellans_bayonetexercise/bayonet_exercise.pdf

And some of the movements performed here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKnzFyMZmk
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 23, 2015, 03:09:31 pm
Found this video, incase you were thinking of adding unique animations for the British Enfield, it's pretty interesting.  :P
Spoiler
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAu4YuiqN9o[/youtube]
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Cool vid and some similar movements to McClellan's bayo manual that he wrote. But it's not what American armies of the time would of used. McClellan's manual can be found here:

http://www.64thill.org/drillmanuals/mcclellans_bayonetexercise/bayonet_exercise.pdf

And some of the movements performed here:

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKnzFyMZmk
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Granted it's not what the americans used, but seeing as they're adding a British faction in.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MackCW on May 23, 2015, 03:26:54 pm
Got it. Loved the vid! Hadn't seen it
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 23, 2015, 03:40:29 pm
Found this video, incase you were thinking of adding unique animations for the British Enfield, it's pretty interesting.  :P
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAu4YuiqN9o[/youtube]

Cool vid and some similar movements to McClellan's bayo manual that he wrote. But it's not what American armies of the time would of used. McClellan's manual can be found here:

http://www.64thill.org/drillmanuals/mcclellans_bayonetexercise/bayonet_exercise.pdf

And some of the movements performed here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKnzFyMZmk

Well, warband is not the best engine to add so many different animations and its nearly impossible to assign unique animations for a faction.

Those animations, for example the melee drill of the 5th New York, are mostly covered 1:1 in War of Rights instead.. mostly not possible in NaS  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 23, 2015, 04:07:56 pm
Thats good stuff for parades but a joke for real melees. Bayonet era melees were (when it occasionally happened) just a real messy crowd with random stabbing and clubbing and doing some fancy foot steps wouldnt bring you anywhere.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 23, 2015, 04:11:55 pm
I was thinking more along the lines as having the British Rifle as it's own type of weapon, allowing you to add different animations to it compared to the other muskets.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 23, 2015, 04:16:00 pm
I was thinking more along the lines as having the British Rifle as it's own type of weapon, allowing you to add different animations to it compared to the other muskets.  :P

Well, there are basicly just 2 types of weapons: Muskets and pistols.. each share a different animation.
You can't actually add the british rifle as an own weapon with a new set of animations. Otherwise we would have different animations/reloading for carbines/breech loaders.. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 23, 2015, 04:50:04 pm
I was thinking more along the lines as having the British Rifle as it's own type of weapon, allowing you to add different animations to it compared to the other muskets.  :P

Well, there are basicly just 2 types of weapons: Muskets and pistols.. each share a different animation.
You can't actually add the british rifle as an own weapon with a new set of animations. Otherwise we would have different animations/reloading for carbines/breech loaders.. :)
Well how did Wilhelm get different animations for bayonetted/unbayonetted firearms for his mod Blood & Iron?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MackCW on May 23, 2015, 05:04:47 pm
Thats good stuff for parades but a joke for real melees. Bayonet era melees were (when it occasionally happened) just a real messy crowd with random stabbing and clubbing and doing some fancy foot steps wouldnt bring you anywhere.

Actually not true when it came to few times CW melee happened. They are teaching you a base so you won't be thrown off balance. It's the same reason the modern military still teaches the same base with bayonet fighting.



Well, warband is not the best engine to add so many different animations and its nearly impossible to assign unique animations for a faction.

Those animations, for example the melee drill of the 5th New York, are mostly covered 1:1 in War of Rights instead.. mostly not possible in NaS  :)

I saw Hinkel. Looking forward to it  ;D.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 23, 2015, 05:35:43 pm
Thats good stuff for parades but a joke for real melees. Bayonet era melees were (when it occasionally happened) just a real messy crowd with random stabbing and clubbing and doing some fancy foot steps wouldnt bring you anywhere.

Actually not true when it came to few times CW melee happened. They are teaching you a base so you won't be thrown off balance. It's the same reason the modern military still teaches the same base with bayonet fighting.

When hundreds of men crash together in a big blob the worlds best balance wont help you at all. Dont try to convince me these exercises are anything other than aesthetical. And bayonet fighting in modern military? Oh boy
Title: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MackCW on May 23, 2015, 06:11:37 pm
Bayonet drill still happens whether you want to admit it or not. And balance in fighting is essential... For any discipline.

John Parrish of 121st New York credited the balance he learned in drill with saving his life at the Mule Shoe (and that was the worst hand to hand of the war).

Whatever your preconceived notions are... It did have a place. Not exactly the way you've seen in the videos but it was used. Primary sources have proven it.

Look you're going to have your opinion and I'm going to have mine. Best to just leave it here
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 23, 2015, 07:19:26 pm
Thats good stuff for parades but a joke for real melees. Bayonet era melees were (when it occasionally happened) just a real messy crowd with random stabbing and clubbing and doing some fancy foot steps wouldnt bring you anywhere.

Actually not true when it came to few times CW melee happened. They are teaching you a base so you won't be thrown off balance. It's the same reason the modern military still teaches the same base with bayonet fighting.

When hundreds of men crash together in a big blob the worlds best balance wont help you at all. Dont try to convince me these exercises are anything other than aesthetical. And bayonet fighting in modern military? Oh boy

Well, I have to support Mack.
Those drilled movements happened alot in the combat.

If you look into the after action reports or letters, books of the veterans, that drill and melee combat did happen mostly! It wasnt always that chaotic like you said.
They continued to use the stuff, they learned in the camp.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 23, 2015, 07:51:41 pm
People need to also realize that reenactments are actually not that far off from the real deal as far as atmosphere goes. Unless you're a 100% purebred Scandinavian with raw-ass viking blood, you're not going to go bloodshot eyes mode, especially with a bayonet. On the flip side, you aren't going to turn into the stereotypical French-fencer and delicately dance your dagger into the fronts of your foes. As goes with any war, you need to remember that the soldiers were pretty, well, human. They get up to the frontlines of a battle, know that within the next couple of minutes they may be killing men or coming close, or they may be killed or come close, and would react appropriately.

And especially in the exaggeration of the ACW example, there's going to be a LOT of variation in how fighting ends up happening. Perhaps this is not the best example, but imagine the opening scene from Lincoln, where the Colored Infantry groups are fighting the Confederates mid-storm, and how random the action was.

For that reason, the randomness, it would be most appropriate if the animations represented that. Clearly there can only be one up attack, one down attack, and so forth, but in those single animations it should be shown something pretty... neutral. That's why I loved the NW animations (though the up attack was a bit ridiculous, especially after the melee nerf years ago when the game became terrible), because they were just "yeah, I guess that's how I'd stab with a bayonet."

I mean, it's a bit exaggerated, but that's good. Remember that this is a video game, and public appeal still matters.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 23, 2015, 09:26:15 pm
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People need to also realize that reenactments are actually not that far off from the real deal as far as atmosphere goes. Unless you're a 100% purebred Scandinavian with raw-ass viking blood, you're not going to go bloodshot eyes mode, especially with a bayonet. On the flip side, you aren't going to turn into the stereotypical French-fencer and delicately dance your dagger into the fronts of your foes. As goes with any war, you need to remember that the soldiers were pretty, well, human. They get up to the frontlines of a battle, know that within the next couple of minutes they may be killing men or coming close, or they may be killed or come close, and would react appropriately.

And especially in the exaggeration of the ACW example, there's going to be a LOT of variation in how fighting ends up happening. Perhaps this is not the best example, but imagine the opening scene from Lincoln, where the Colored Infantry groups are fighting the Confederates mid-storm, and how random the action was.

For that reason, the randomness, it would be most appropriate if the animations represented that. Clearly there can only be one up attack, one down attack, and so forth, but in those single animations it should be shown something pretty... neutral. That's why I loved the NW animations (though the up attack was a bit ridiculous, especially after the melee nerf years ago when the game became terrible), because they were just "yeah, I guess that's how I'd stab with a bayonet."

I mean, it's a bit exaggerated, but that's good. Remember that this is a video game, and public appeal still matters.
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Well going berserk is an amazing feeling one time when doing some SCA/H.E.M.A practice one of my friends drove me to become berserk. After I came out of that state I had 2 broken fingers and my friend was on the ground like a small child.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on May 24, 2015, 01:37:24 am
At the end of the day when you're faced with a horde of screaming rebs you're going to do what you've been drilled in. Units that piss about swinging their rifles like clubs etc. find themselves on the back foot in very short order. It's exactly the same with rifle drill, it all becomes muscle memory and your body goes into autopilot when combat starts.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 24, 2015, 01:45:21 am
I'm speaking from a game-design standpoint. You can't have one animation for the Union troops, another for the Confederate, another for the French, British, Mexican etc., because of the engine's limitations. Thus, you have to meet at some agreement as to a "neutral" animation, that "works" for everyone.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on May 24, 2015, 02:00:57 am
Yeah wasn't criticising what you said, was criticising the fella who thinks it was all some mad wrestling match with a bit of MMA thrown in
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 24, 2015, 12:29:09 pm
Bawmp
I was thinking more along the lines as having the British Rifle as it's own type of weapon, allowing you to add different animations to it compared to the other muskets.  :P

Well, there are basicly just 2 types of weapons: Muskets and pistols.. each share a different animation.
You can't actually add the british rifle as an own weapon with a new set of animations. Otherwise we would have different animations/reloading for carbines/breech loaders.. :)
Well how did Wilhelm get different animations for bayonetted/unbayonetted firearms for his mod Blood & Iron?
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 24, 2015, 03:41:27 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqRSJZI3uOc
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 26, 2015, 04:39:03 am
Just curious if there is any recent news on 1.0 release? Last thing I recall seeing was the bandage system or something was holding it up. Thanks  :)

-Edit- Nevermind I found where someone just made a thread on it for some reason. Thanks for the reply to that Parrot and we understand.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 26, 2015, 08:59:27 pm
Yea there hasnt been much info released for a week. Hows the development going?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 26, 2015, 09:37:44 pm
Yea there hasnt been much info released for a week. Hows the development going?

Yesterday:

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Parrot: I'm very busy at the current time, and I had hoped that the mod would have been released before I lost pretty much all my free time. So unfortunately the mod will have to wait a bit until I get time to work on it. However, once I'm free I'll be back on the job like no body's business.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 26, 2015, 09:56:07 pm
Ohhhhhhhh tehee
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Napoleon23 on May 26, 2015, 11:40:03 pm
Ohhhhhhhh tehee
   That will be 20 lashings for your wrong doing!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ambiguous on May 27, 2015, 01:08:20 pm
The Screens for 1.0 look sick Hinkel, keep up the good work :)

Also was nice to see you as a Dev at the Union Army Saturday Event :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 27, 2015, 02:09:29 pm
The Screens for 1.0 look sick Hinkel, keep up the good work :)

Also was nice to see you as a Dev at the Union Army Saturday Event :)
lel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on May 27, 2015, 03:06:17 pm
I can't wait for everything to be so balanced  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 27, 2015, 10:06:56 pm
Is there a way you can add the moving while crouched mechanic like they have in the deluge. It would be amazing if you could.  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: PolarBeats on May 27, 2015, 10:19:15 pm
Is there a way you can add the moving while crouched mechanic like they have in the deluge. It would be amazing if you could.  ::)

I had the same thought, it would be a perfect mechanic for North and South, being able to sneak around trees, bushes, up hills etc.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 28, 2015, 07:27:39 am
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Quote from: JohannGustavsen on May 27, 2015, 10:06:56 pm
Is there a way you can add the moving while crouched mechanic like they have in the deluge. It would be amazing if you could.  ::)

I had the same thought, it would be a perfect mechanic for North and South, being able to sneak around trees, bushes, up hills etc.

My main man  ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 07:48:15 am
Is there a way you can add the moving while crouched mechanic like they have in the deluge. It would be amazing if you could.  ::)
Would turn out too buggy...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 28, 2015, 08:52:42 am
The deluge did it perfectly.... As far as im aware there are no bugs for said feature.  ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 09:59:27 am
The deluge did it perfectly.... As far as im aware there are no bugs for said feature.  ???
It did not do it perfectly... lol  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on May 28, 2015, 10:01:14 am
Worked more then fine in the deluge. Was at least my favorite feature in that mod, and made the battles so unique compared to other mods.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 10:34:07 am
"Oh, well it's good because you can move while crouched, duh." It's still glitchy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on May 28, 2015, 10:39:38 am
I diddnt answer your post. I don't care about your negative opinion, i just think its a neat feature that made the game really immersive and was a real game changer.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 28, 2015, 11:05:33 am
There won't be any crouching.. So please stop the discussion. For me, its not needed, cause people should march in lines and not crouch from cover to cover ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Swiftwisp on May 28, 2015, 11:29:36 am
There won't be any crouching.. So please stop the discussion. For me, its not needed, cause people should march in lines and not crouch from cover to cover ;)

Skirmishers need to crouch!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 28, 2015, 01:05:17 pm
Skirmishers need to crouch!
Fully agree! Sharpshooters need to be able to crouch!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 01:57:43 pm
I diddnt answer your post. I don't care about your negative opinion, i just think its a neat feature that made the game really immersive and was a real game changer.
Accept that other people have other opinions. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on May 28, 2015, 02:53:33 pm
I diddnt answer your post. I don't care about your negative opinion, i just think its a neat feature that made the game really immersive and was a real game changer.
Accept that other people have other opinions. :)
I heard you the first time. I respect others opinions, but what you commented on my opinion on crouching was unnecessary and had nothing to do with what I said.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MackCW on May 28, 2015, 03:05:27 pm
Skirmishers need to crouch!
Fully agree! Sharpshooters need to be able to crouch!

They can... when they fire. Which is pretty much how they were taught anyways.

There won't be any crouching.. So please stop the discussion. For me, its not needed, cause people should march in lines and not crouch from cover to cover ;)

Got to agree with Hinkel though. People in events would find ways to exploit it. Just one more thing admins would need to watch.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 28, 2015, 04:24:53 pm
This is a nice conversation you are having here. I don't know about you but Manny Calavera officers hype! xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 28, 2015, 04:54:00 pm
There won't be any crouching.. So please stop the discussion. For me, its not needed, cause people should march in lines and not crouch from cover to cover ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 05:06:44 pm
I diddnt answer your post. I don't care about your negative opinion, i just think its a neat feature that made the game really immersive and was a real game changer.
Accept that other people have other opinions. :)
I heard you the first time. I respect others opinions, but what you commented on my opinion on crouching was unnecessary and had nothing to do with what I said.
If you don't care about my negative opinion, don't even bother. There won't be any walking while crouching anyway.  :-*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on May 28, 2015, 05:13:24 pm
Walking crouched would have been a nice feature for Lights&Skirmishers yes. Musket era warfare wasnt solely about line formations
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 05:18:23 pm
Walking crouched would have been a nice feature for Lights&Skirmishers yes. Musket era warfare wasnt solely about line formations
I do agree, I just don't think that they should have the same animation from The Deluge since people have experienced glitches with it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 28, 2015, 05:19:13 pm
I loved the crouching and walking animation of The Deluge.
This should be incorporated into the next release.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 05:22:56 pm
There's nothing wrong with the animation itself, really. The actions.txt just isn't adapted to it correctly.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 28, 2015, 05:24:16 pm
Would be nice if people did actual drill in events rather than those awful looking single man columns.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 28, 2015, 05:30:24 pm

Please stop bitching at each other.

Not including crouching is a developer decision, and we have our reasons for not adding it; we don't need to hear a billion "but xyz mod has it and it's so cool".
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 28, 2015, 05:35:24 pm
Sorry, I have a tendency to get a temper very often... :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 28, 2015, 05:49:38 pm
Would be nice if people did actual drill in events rather than those awful looking single man columns.

I know. But sometimes there isn't enough men.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on May 28, 2015, 06:13:52 pm

Please stop bitching at each other.

Not including crouching is a developer decision, and we have our reasons for not adding it; we don't need to hear a billion "but xyz mod has it and it's so cool".
I thought this was one of the reasons to have a forum. To say what you like and dislike, so the devs can know what they should go for  or leave. Ill say my opinion no matter if people like it, dont care or act snide.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 28, 2015, 06:15:43 pm
Oh I'm sorry I thought this was a forum  ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 28, 2015, 06:20:46 pm
I thought this was one of the reasons to have a forum. To say what you like and dislike, so the devs can know what they should go for  or leave. Ill say my opinion no matter if people like it, dont care or act snide.

Yes, but after about a million people have said the same thing without any useful information attached to it, it gets a bit tiresome. And then it starts unnecessary arguments between people that clutter up the thread.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Josy_Wales on May 28, 2015, 06:31:45 pm
I thought this was one of the reasons to have a forum. To say what you like and dislike, so the devs can know what they should go for  or leave. Ill say my opinion no matter if people like it, dont care or act snide.

Yes, but after about a million people have said the same thing without any useful information attached to it, it gets a bit tiresome. And then it starts unnecessary arguments between people that clutter up the thread.
I understand, but I have to say that around 4 people saying why they like the walking while crouched feature is a trifle compared to a lot of the usual things said.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 28, 2015, 06:59:07 pm
I need someone, who did not take part in the first 1.0 Beta.. and never installed the beta folder.
Please give me a message here in the thread.. NOT as a pm! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 28, 2015, 07:03:11 pm
Nevermind. Thank you for letting me.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 28, 2015, 07:29:01 pm
I need someone, who did not take part in the first 1.0 Beta.. and never installed the beta folder.
Please give me a message here in the thread.. NOT as a pm! :D

Never took part in the first beta :3
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 28, 2015, 07:49:34 pm
I never took part and I would just love to test 1.0  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 28, 2015, 08:08:31 pm
me :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 28, 2015, 08:24:47 pm
Sorry guys.. got some help now.
The installer is not working right... ! :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 28, 2015, 08:30:09 pm
Such a tease  :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 28, 2015, 08:44:37 pm
Q_Q
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 28, 2015, 08:56:56 pm
I will suicide Hinkel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 28, 2015, 09:07:59 pm
Quote
I will suicide Hinkel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: preussen6 on May 28, 2015, 10:11:45 pm
I will suicide Hinkel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 28, 2015, 10:20:30 pm
The installer is not working right... ! :D
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F43%2F433268da9bd9958bd5b008f99e35c8e3c7530b5b00ba006ee1b8085157b11992.jpg&hash=c4574da61bd706de443c6e0b353bfd6a09e198d5)
lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 28, 2015, 11:31:14 pm
Not including crouching is a developer decision, and we have our reasons for not adding it.

Just to be clear, this isn't in regards to the stationary crouch, just the crouching and walking, right? It's a dumb question to ask and perhaps dumber to answer, but I think some people got confused, myself included.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 29, 2015, 12:17:44 am
When you get 1.0 BETA

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/DHsRVaf.png)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 29, 2015, 01:15:23 am
When you get 1.0 BETA

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/DHsRVaf.png)
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More Like...
Spoiler
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 29, 2015, 05:21:57 am
Damn straight ^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 29, 2015, 08:17:23 am
I think it quite represents me too :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 29, 2015, 09:58:39 am
When you get 1.0 BETA

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/DHsRVaf.png)
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More Like...
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pandawhale.com%2F80054-South-Park-orgasm-meme-Randy-M-HyfP.jpeg&hash=32888f792b1ac4095d7476a4055a5c5dfd3d49be)
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You fapped to the beta...?  ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on May 29, 2015, 12:39:31 pm
When you get 1.0 BETA

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/DHsRVaf.png)
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When you get the Beta and know how to access the hidden textures...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 29, 2015, 12:50:41 pm
When you get 1.0 BETA

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/DHsRVaf.png)
[close]


When you get the Beta and know how to access the hidden textures...

What hidden textures?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 29, 2015, 12:51:30 pm
There are no "hidden" textures.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on May 29, 2015, 12:53:57 pm
There are no "hidden" textures.  :P

That's why they're called 'hidden', don't worry about it, the update will be released soon and you will see them ingame.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 29, 2015, 12:57:31 pm
I have already seen them. They're in the skin pack for the UA.  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 29, 2015, 12:58:25 pm
I have already seen them. They're in the skin pack for the UA.  ;)

Can I see pls?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 29, 2015, 01:01:43 pm
They're on the front page of this thread... ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 29, 2015, 01:06:27 pm
Basicly those hidden stuff is just not activated and will get unlocked on the official servers.
Like general skins for Sherman and Grant and 2 dozens of other regiments... :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 29, 2015, 01:08:08 pm
I thought he meant the new textures... :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 29, 2015, 01:08:15 pm
Oh, I see.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on May 29, 2015, 01:23:39 pm
Basicly those hidden stuff is just not activated and will get unlocked on the official servers.
Like general skins for Sherman and Grant and 2 dozens of other regiments... :)

 ::) Well Hello there  ;) ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 29, 2015, 02:47:16 pm
Basicly those hidden stuff is just not activated and will get unlocked on the official servers.
Like general skins for Sherman and Grant and 2 dozens of other regiments... :)
*72nd Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry "Baxter's Fire Zouaves" Intensify*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on May 29, 2015, 02:49:40 pm
Basicly those hidden stuff is just not activated and will get unlocked on the official servers.
Like general skins for Sherman and Grant and 2 dozens of other regiments... :)
*72nd Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry "Baxter's Fire Zouaves" Intensify*

^^ Who let this kid in?  ??? ::)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 29, 2015, 05:30:58 pm
I tested the 1.0 beta today and I just can say that this will be amazing. Looking forward to the release and the events in the new version  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 29, 2015, 05:38:50 pm
Yeh. And I don't have the best of laptops and I can still play on Very High with some lag. But it runs very well on Low and looks good. There is a certain feature that will be good for roleplay.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 30, 2015, 12:37:33 pm
Damnit.. I destroyed the first post...  :-[
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 30, 2015, 12:43:19 pm
The images disappears or I'm losing something more?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 30, 2015, 12:51:51 pm
I noticed last night that the images on the main thread weren't loading up properly.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 30, 2015, 12:56:59 pm
I updated the first page now... with the fully release-text.
But I did not add any links yet... hopefulyl not many guys will check haha  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 30, 2015, 01:06:40 pm
Looks nice. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on May 30, 2015, 01:16:23 pm
Thread looks good Hinkel.  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 30, 2015, 01:30:39 pm
Looks really nice now
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 30, 2015, 01:37:23 pm
It's sexy and you know it :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on May 30, 2015, 01:48:14 pm
North&South Community Supervisor ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 30, 2015, 02:35:59 pm
Glorious. Just glorious.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ted on May 30, 2015, 03:00:19 pm
I tested the 1.0 beta today and I just can say that this will be amazing. Looking forward to the release and the events in the new version  ;D

+1

It's great  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 30, 2015, 04:09:27 pm
Loving the next front page! Especial the VMI cadet screenshot ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 30, 2015, 05:55:33 pm
Played the beta for so many hours today. It's addictive :S
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 30, 2015, 06:24:31 pm
Yeah... we need some testing servers. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 30, 2015, 06:59:06 pm
there are one xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 30, 2015, 07:00:53 pm
The only bug i encountered was the character creation wouldnt let me keep my favorite facial hair.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 30, 2015, 07:28:42 pm
Yeah... we need some testing servers. :)

There is just one server, the UA server for the beta.
We just need this server.. ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 30, 2015, 07:52:32 pm
The only bug i encountered was the character creation wouldnt let me keep my favorite facial hair.

Happened for me. I wanted a full grown beard and it kept switching mine.

I can't find the testing server.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 30, 2015, 08:12:43 pm
Is this the right directory for beta

MountBlade Warband/Modules/North and South - Beta

I can't find testing servers :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on May 30, 2015, 08:43:34 pm
Pretty sure it should look like this : North and South Beta without the - I think.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ManlyMan on May 30, 2015, 11:47:27 pm
Well now the link doesn't even work because it was getting too much traffic apparently.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on May 30, 2015, 11:55:27 pm
yeah i had to put it on another site  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Marceaux on May 30, 2015, 11:59:52 pm
Any word on a release for this?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on May 31, 2015, 12:03:31 am
Any word on a release for this?
Didn't you hear? The mod's been cancelled.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 31, 2015, 12:11:54 am
Very soon.... a few weeks I think.

Judging from the BETA.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 31, 2015, 05:06:51 am
Of all days to watch Amadeus, it had to be when NaS beta comes out.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 31, 2015, 11:10:02 am
Of all days to watch Amadeus, it had to be when NaS beta comes out.

Well,at least it's a quality film.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 31, 2015, 12:19:59 pm
The only bug i encountered was the character creation wouldnt let me keep my favorite facial hair.
Aye I had the same bug. See Hinks it's nae just me!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on May 31, 2015, 12:31:29 pm
The only bug i encountered was the character creation wouldnt let me keep my favorite facial hair.
Aye I had the same bug. See Hinks it's nae just me!

If you can tell us, why this bug happens for just 10 % of the players, while the other 90 % have no problems with it... then we could fix it.
Parrot and I have no idea, so we cannot reproduce and fix it.

To be honest, I got 4 official reports of this bug yet... While I asked ingame, nobody had ever this bug. The faces/hair/facial hair are saved every time..
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 31, 2015, 12:31:33 pm
The only bug i encountered was the character creation wouldnt let me keep my favorite facial hair.
Aye I had the same bug. See Hinks it's nae just me!
^ This is the only thing that bugs me right now.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 31, 2015, 12:35:50 pm
Same.  :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 31, 2015, 12:37:39 pm
So aside from the hair not saving I also feel all the new avatars look like sad Asians, I can't say I'm a fan.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 31, 2015, 12:45:44 pm
So aside from the hair not saving I also feel all the new avatars look like sad Asians, I can't say I'm a fan.

There's also the glitch of the Mississipi rifle turning into broken glass when you attach bayonet.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 31, 2015, 01:02:50 pm
Just here to say I'm getting the beard glitch too and try to give some details. If I select a full beard with a pipe, it'll give me a handlebar mustache with the pipe. Same without the pipe as well. Handlebar mustache without pipe. Sometimes the face will change to the next face in the list when I encounter the beard bug but not always. Can't get the full beard for the life of me though. I know the couple others I played with had the same problem. I selected most other kinds of beards to see if it would eventually land me with the full beard but to no avail.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on May 31, 2015, 01:11:55 pm
The difficulties I experience are the face not saving. The sliders for the face generators are also messed up. Let's say I slide "Mouth width" to the right. The mouth width is not affected but some other random part of the face is. This is extremely annoying. I can't have my old facial hair either.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on May 31, 2015, 01:15:30 pm
I had this too but I just played with other sliders named something else until I found what I was looking for.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 31, 2015, 01:21:04 pm
I also feel all the new avatars look like sad Asians, I can't say I'm a fan.

That's because some of the face skins are Asian... :P

There's also the glitch of the Mississipi rifle turning into broken glass when you attach bayonet.

Drop the bottle and look at the name
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 31, 2015, 01:32:30 pm
Oh.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 31, 2015, 01:37:34 pm
Oh.


Hehe :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on May 31, 2015, 02:28:14 pm
For those people having problems with their character faces not saving, can you try making a new character and let us know what happens.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on May 31, 2015, 02:34:27 pm
For those people having problems with their character faces not saving, can you try making a new character and let us know what happens.
I did make a new character, it did nae work.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on May 31, 2015, 04:14:34 pm
I tried making another account, didn't work.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on May 31, 2015, 04:24:50 pm
WTF?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 31, 2015, 04:29:32 pm
WTF?

Could you be a bit more clear? What problem are you experiencing?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on May 31, 2015, 05:02:24 pm
WTF?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on May 31, 2015, 08:22:18 pm
After making another character it didnt change the glitch, wierd.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: michaelsmithern on May 31, 2015, 09:22:13 pm
Thank you Hinkel for letting me test out the 1.0 beta
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: michaelsmithern on May 31, 2015, 09:46:16 pm
If i must ask, Hinkel for the 1st Minnesota, can you make so that the sergeants, or if you add first sergeants, are able to use rifles that have bayonets
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on May 31, 2015, 10:55:55 pm
Double posting at it's finest :P. They don't have bayonets due to having bandages,they support their regiment not everyone goes Sgt.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on May 31, 2015, 11:47:23 pm
If i must ask, Hinkel for the 1st Minnesota, can you make so that the sergeants, or if you add first sergeants, are able to use rifles that have bayonets
It's the same for every Sgt in the game. I didn't like it at first either, but then I realized it's pretty neat. It allows for more strategic gameplay. The Col must decide whether he wants more melee'rs or more medics. It will make line compositions more interesting  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on June 01, 2015, 06:12:56 am
You just have to click a few times on sergeant, them he has a sword and no Bandage.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 01, 2015, 09:36:20 am
WTF?

Could you be a bit more clear? What problem are you experiencing?

Sure

For those people having problems with their character faces not saving, can you try making a new character and let us know what happens.
I tried making another account, didn't work.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Napoleon23 on June 01, 2015, 04:52:06 pm
I tried the beta yesterday and I loved it! I am so excited for the full update!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on June 01, 2015, 06:53:28 pm
So why has everybody except me got the fucking beta out of a sudden??
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 01, 2015, 07:22:39 pm
So why has everybody except me got the fucking beta out of a sudden??

Because you're not swaggy.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fairas on June 01, 2015, 07:24:35 pm
Because the Union Army are Part of the Beta and the UA has about 800 Members  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 01, 2015, 07:43:32 pm
  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 01, 2015, 08:01:28 pm
I have the BETA and I'm a Confederate. :)

And if I'm a Confederate means I'll be fighting the Mexicans. :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: König Wilhelm on June 01, 2015, 08:25:38 pm
Is there a way for me to test it?I am not part of anything or anyone but i wanna see it .___. pls
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 02, 2015, 12:02:37 am
I'm with the UA, and downloaded the mod a few days ago. I try to run it, but it freezes while loading up the game.

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It simply stops loading once it reaches that point. I've tried removing it and installing it again, but no luck yet. This has only happened to me for 1.0. The previous versions have never had trouble loading.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 02, 2015, 12:10:59 am
I feel like there should be a bug thread
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on June 02, 2015, 12:52:15 am
I feel like there should be a bug thread
There will probably be one once 1.0 comes out.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: DaMonkey on June 02, 2015, 01:15:53 am
Will 1.0 be using the more current module system?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 02, 2015, 07:13:44 am
I'm with the UA, and downloaded the mod a few days ago. I try to run it, but it freezes while loading up the game.

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It simply stops loading once it reaches that point. I've tried removing it and installing it again, but no luck yet. This has only happened to me for 1.0. The previous versions have never had trouble loading.
I think you're just used to the game loading fast. This mid does NOT load fast. Wait for a while.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 02, 2015, 02:05:24 pm
It simply stops loading once it reaches that point. I've tried removing it and installing it again, but no luck yet. This has only happened to me for 1.0. The previous versions have never had trouble loading.

When you start the client, click on configure, video and check, if "Load Textures on Demand" is activated.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 02, 2015, 03:34:34 pm
A normal day in parrotville
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 02, 2015, 03:41:23 pm
A normal day in parrotville
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Now that's a resolution I have not seen in a long time. A long time...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 02, 2015, 03:54:27 pm
A normal day in parrotville
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(https://i.gyazo.com/11018edee24ca66a03d71ef12cbce5f7.jpg)
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Now that's a resolution I have not seen in a long time. A long time...

It's the all new Catholic Screen :3
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 02, 2015, 04:00:13 pm
A normal day in parrotville
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XD

So if you take the Chaplain and go play the first 2 songs on the piano it plays something different. The first song is amazing grace on bagpipes and the second song is the really sad song from Titanic. (The band plays it as the ship goes down.) You can walk around like you're preaching while playing these as well :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on June 02, 2015, 04:04:36 pm
A normal day in parrotville
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XD

So if you take the Chaplain and go play the first 2 songs on the piano it plays something different. The first song is amazing grace on bagpipes and the second song is the really sad song from Titanic. (The band plays it as the ship goes down.) You can walk around like you're preaching while playing these as well :D

Probably Nearer my God to Thee  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4LyoUGxVd8
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 02, 2015, 04:10:04 pm
Probably Nearer my God to Thee
Yep thats the one!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 02, 2015, 04:13:40 pm
It simply stops loading once it reaches that point. I've tried removing it and installing it again, but no luck yet. This has only happened to me for 1.0. The previous versions have never had trouble loading.

When you start the client, click on configure, video and check, if "Load Textures on Demand" is activated.
That got it. I'll also try setting it to normal texture loading and let the game load for awhile like Johann said.

The only oddities I noticed ingame were that the chaplain's Bible is upside down, and when you try to attach a bayonet to the Mississippi rifle, it turns into a broken bottle that you can throw or melee with, and cannot be changed back.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 02, 2015, 04:18:27 pm
when you try to attach a bayonet to the Mississippi rifle, it turns into a broken bottle that you can throw or melee with, and cannot be changed back.
There's also the glitch of the Mississipi rifle turning into broken glass when you attach bayonet.

Drop the bottle and look at the name

Basically the bottle is there because the Mississippi would turn into a fully loaded revolver (not related to the bottle bug of the first beta) if B was pressed. I could also completely fix the bug so that nothing happens, but it's too hilarious :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on June 02, 2015, 04:26:05 pm
It will remind scrubs not to hit B. Always makes me laugh when new people to the beta complain about that bug  ;D.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 02, 2015, 04:31:09 pm
Good 'old times when it turned to Volcanic pistol with infinite ammo  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 02, 2015, 04:39:24 pm
So you can fix the bottle-bug completely... but you thought it was hilarious enough to keep it in the mod???  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 02, 2015, 04:45:55 pm
So you can fix the bottle-bug completely... but you thought it was hilarious enough to keep it in the mod???  :P

Pretty sure it will be fixed in the final release ;)

(otherwise I have to press B in real-life and I need to visit Parrot on the island) :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dius on June 02, 2015, 06:19:37 pm
No Iron Brigade regiment are present on game ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 02, 2015, 06:23:04 pm
No Iron Brigade regiment are present on game ?

For that, we have the fact sheets?! :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fimages%2Fmods%2F1%2F22%2F21131%2FIron_Render_-_final.jpg&hash=f7389b215f18c28d3d3374b6171d660eeb66eca7)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dius on June 02, 2015, 06:43:58 pm
Oh yeah ! Thanks
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on June 02, 2015, 07:43:58 pm
While we wait for miracles: Is a delayed release a released delay?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 02, 2015, 08:38:55 pm
While we wait for miracles: Is a delayed release a released delay?
Aaah... Reminds me about my days as a philosopher...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 02, 2015, 11:35:15 pm
Pretty sure it will be fixed in the final release ;)

(otherwise I have to press B in real-life and I need to visit Parrot on the island) :D

Give him the bayonet!!! XD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: michaelsmithern on June 03, 2015, 04:04:42 am
is it just me, or do the foreign intervention troops have longer stabbing ranges, specifically the mexican troops. it's probably just me, i just wanted to be sure
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 03, 2015, 09:16:14 am
"¡vamus compineros!"

I don't know who is the guy that give the voice to the mexican troops, but I am sure that he doesn't speak spanish xD

But I love this spaninglish version more, it's funny xD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 03, 2015, 10:55:13 am
"¡vamus compineros!"

I don't know who is the guy that give the voice to the mexican troops, but I am sure that he doesn't speak spanish xD

But I love this spaninglish version more, it's funny xD

VAMOS COMPINEROS!

A LA CARGA! :p
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 03, 2015, 11:51:53 am
There should be also a "Vivoo Meeehico" shout.. but never heard it ingame yet :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 03, 2015, 12:09:27 pm

You mean this one Hinkel ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 03, 2015, 12:32:02 pm
Exactly.. :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 03, 2015, 01:40:28 pm
Exactly.. :D

I was just browsing all the NaS files and messing around with sounds and textures :P.  Trying to make a 5th Missouri Skin but I don't have enough info. I think I can do the hat,only part of the uniform I found valid info about kek
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 03, 2015, 02:33:35 pm
Exactly.. :D

I was just browsing all the NaS files and messing around with sounds and textures :P.  Trying to make a 5th Missouri Skin but I don't have enough info. I think I can do the hat,only part of the uniform I found valid info about kek

Do you mean the Union or Confederate 5th Missouri? Both armies had such a regiment.. ;)
Beside that, please show me your reference link about the hat?! Cause I have authentic uniform information of both regiments.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 03, 2015, 02:45:38 pm
Exactly.. :D

I was just browsing all the NaS files and messing around with sounds and textures :P.  Trying to make a 5th Missouri Skin but I don't have enough info. I think I can do the hat,only part of the uniform I found valid info about kek

Do you mean the Union or Confederate 5th Missouri? Both armies had such a regiment.. ;)
Beside that, please show me your reference link about the hat?! Cause I have authentic uniform information of both regiments.

Confederate 5th Missouri :D. I heard the hat had a red stripe, then again I did some research earlier and people argue about that. I don't know who to believe D:. A re-enactor was talking about the hat so I can't share a link I don't have the chat recorded.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 03, 2015, 02:46:52 pm
Nope.. they revieced this uniform for the entire Missouri brigade in 1862:

Cockrells Missouri brigade recieved new uniforms in 1862. These appear to have been gray caps and pants, Columbus Depot six-button jackets of gray wool, with collar and cuffs of indigo blue.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oldgloryprints.com%2FOrphans_3.jpg&hash=c5b2d4281064d6176c2fbd412672f12d0f8ee186)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 03, 2015, 03:24:59 pm
Ah!. I was playing with the uniforms yesterday too, and made a 10thNY skin
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Hinkel I have a question, Why any zouave regiment hasn't a "turban" with the hat? I remember in WoR
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 04, 2015, 12:14:43 pm
I'm sure Lincoln wished he had a hat this fine.
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F28492187200481604%2F7C340F33B603B282E0934E09F6D23E3F3FCDD281%2F&hash=3371112481c1a9cb317940d0c954096a42888073)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 04, 2015, 12:43:19 pm
I'm sure Lincoln wished he had a hat this fine.
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F28492187200481604%2F7C340F33B603B282E0934E09F6D23E3F3FCDD281%2F&hash=3371112481c1a9cb317940d0c954096a42888073)
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You should activate "High-Contrast Tonemaps" in your graphic settings... ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 04, 2015, 01:58:26 pm
I'm sure Lincoln wished he had a hat this fine.
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F28492187200481604%2F7C340F33B603B282E0934E09F6D23E3F3FCDD281%2F&hash=3371112481c1a9cb317940d0c954096a42888073)
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You should activate "High-Contrast Tonemaps" in your graphic settings... ;)
I have it on just had to crank my graphics up. My frames don't like it though XD
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F28492187200777710%2F957D60BBA421030027E668EA19237BBBA526E9EE%2F&hash=e3136acfd6b72e9b0ef85af31a06892cfb7cdc42)
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Beautiful though!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 05, 2015, 06:33:08 am
How does one go about acquiring dedicated server files?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 05, 2015, 09:23:02 am
How does one go about acquiring dedicated server files?

The mod hasn't been released yet...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 05, 2015, 10:05:40 am
This weekend, we will have the first line battles with the 1.0 features. We will check out, if everything is working.
So both armies should do line battles, using the 1.0 beta this weekend and avoid using the old 0.5! :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 05, 2015, 10:32:12 am
How does one go about acquiring dedicated server files?

The mod hasn't been released yet...
I know I was mostly wanting it to test my map. I noticed when I brought it over from the old beta one of the houses I used lost all its texture but still had its mesh. I was wanting to test it more with players XD Nice boats btw can't wait to implement them with cannons :D

This weekend, we will have the first line battles with the 1.0 features. We will check out, if everything is working.
So both armies should do line battles, using the 1.0 beta this weekend and avoid using the old 0.5! :)
I'd love to see the DA server testing the beta. I really appreciate the people running the servers on beta too. I know the UA has that server devoted to testing seems like.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 05, 2015, 11:57:19 am
I know I was mostly wanting it to test my map. I noticed when I brought it over from the old beta one of the houses I used lost all its texture but still had its mesh. I was wanting to test it more with players XD Nice boats btw can't wait to implement them with cannons :D

You can drop your map into the scenes folder and load it up in your own private hosted server, you don't need to have a whole server to quickly test a map :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 05, 2015, 01:28:50 pm
I tried XD
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 05, 2015, 02:00:30 pm
Cause you got shot in the back of the head from an actor Kappa
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eraamion on June 05, 2015, 05:49:51 pm
This weekend, we will have the first line battles with the 1.0 features. We will check out, if everything is working.
So both armies should do line battles, using the 1.0 beta this weekend and avoid using the old 0.5! :)
Will the regiments that attend the weekend line battles but aren't part of the armies receive the 1.0 files?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 06:55:25 pm
This weekend, we will have the first line battles with the 1.0 features. We will check out, if everything is working.
So both armies should do line battles, using the 1.0 beta this weekend and avoid using the old 0.5! :)
Will the regiments that attend the weekend line battles but aren't part of the armies receive the 1.0 files?

I don't think so. Only official army regiments will be attending.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 05, 2015, 08:18:58 pm
This weekend, we will have the first line battles with the 1.0 features. We will check out, if everything is working.
So both armies should do line battles, using the 1.0 beta this weekend and avoid using the old 0.5! :)
Will the regiments that attend the weekend line battles but aren't part of the armies receive the 1.0 files?

As far I know, only the regiments members of the Army can assist the the Army's events
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 08:44:02 pm
When will the DA get a server on 1.0?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 05, 2015, 08:46:06 pm
When will everyone else get acess to 1.0?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 09:02:30 pm
When will everyone else get acess to 1.0?

But the Union Army have a server and BETA is not released yet.

Bias, perhaps?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on June 05, 2015, 09:05:24 pm
People are quite dim-witted on this thread the UA is testing the Beta right now. We are having an event on it because that's the only way to test it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 09:19:37 pm
People are quite dim-witted on this thread the UA is testing the Beta right now. We are having an event on it because that's the only way to test it.

I am sorry. I didn't know that it was just the AU servers testing.  My mistake.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 09:24:01 pm
This weekend, we will have the first line battles with the 1.0 features. We will check out, if everything is working.
So both armies should do line battles, using the 1.0 beta this weekend and avoid using the old 0.5! :)

So both armies (UA and DA) are going to be having a linebattle? On the UA server?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 05, 2015, 09:42:27 pm
Double posting :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 09:51:18 pm
Double posting :D

I am awfully sorry for posting twice. It won't happen again.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eraamion on June 05, 2015, 10:03:32 pm
When will everyone else get acess to 1.0?

But the Union Army have a server and BETA is not released yet.

Bias, perhaps?
I don't think it is Bias,or at least that is what I am told. The way the devs explained it to me was that releasing the Beta to only the UA and DA made it,"easier" to communicate and test the mod.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 05, 2015, 10:21:12 pm
#DownloadLinksCan'tMeltSteelBeams
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 10:25:22 pm
When will everyone else get acess to 1.0?

But the Union Army have a server and BETA is not released yet.

Bias, perhaps?
I don't think it is Bias,or at least that is what I am told. The way the devs explained it to me was that releasing the Beta to only the UA and DA made it,"easier" to communicate and test the mod.

I know that. I just want to know why the UA have a server and the DA don't?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 05, 2015, 11:04:47 pm
When will everyone else get acess to 1.0?

But the Union Army have a server and BETA is not released yet.

Bias, perhaps?
I don't think it is Bias,or at least that is what I am told. The way the devs explained it to me was that releasing the Beta to only the UA and DA made it,"easier" to communicate and test the mod.

I know that. I just want to know why the UA have a server and the DA don't?

Cuz Union ftw :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 05, 2015, 11:06:43 pm
When will everyone else get acess to 1.0?

But the Union Army have a server and BETA is not released yet.

Bias, perhaps?
I don't think it is Bias,or at least that is what I am told. The way the devs explained it to me was that releasing the Beta to only the UA and DA made it,"easier" to communicate and test the mod.

I know that. I just want to know why the UA have a server and the DA don't?

Cuz Union ftw :D

cri everytim
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 05, 2015, 11:29:27 pm
Long live the Onion!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 06, 2015, 12:40:37 am
It's very simple :P , we gave a beta version of the mod to certain people (that are in charge of large, loyal-to-the-mod, regiments) so that they can test the mod and provide useful feedback. It's easier for us (the devs) to communicate with a few leaders of large groups who can relay feedback from their members to us. This has the benefit of actually getting feedback from a large selection without the many people that just want to play the mod.

The Union Army have a server because they are hosting the beta server. Them having the beta is not favouritism, they are testing an unfinished product.

North and South 1.0 will be released when North and South 1.0 is released.

Here is an analogy about food
If you're still confused, keep reading! I hope this can help explain it a little better...

Think of North and South 1.0 as a nice, fruity, juicy, raspberry tart. Mmmm, tastey right. We all want a slice of that tart, and we can't wait until it's done!

So right now, North and South looks something like this:
(https://marshmallowsandmargaritas.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/unbaked-pie.jpg)

A pre-oven tart. Unfinished, raw, still has some things that can be improved; but a product we "bakers" a happy with. Now for the first beta, the Union Army had a slice of that pre-oven tart, and said to us "there are problems here and there, and you could improve this". So the team went back to work, made the changes, and put it in the oven for a bit.

After a fraction of the time, we gave another slice of the tart to the Union Army, and we want their feedback on what the tart is like this time. Hopefully they'll notice the changes we made to the old tart, and approve of them. It's also important to note that we got some "tart experts" in to give us their professional opinion of our cooking; people like USNavy were able to go past the simple tasting of the tart and give us their break down on the flavours, textures, etc. and how we can improve each aspect of our beloved dessert.

Now some of you guys have seen these people with slices of the tart, and have instantly thought "they have tart and I don't", without noticing that the tart that they have is uncooked and unfinished. The North and South team wants to give you guys a tart that looks like this:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-tc.pbs.org%2Ffood%2Fwp-content%2Fblogs.dir%2F2%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F09%2Fraspberry-pie-4.jpg&hash=fce022a9ded656b352188a5c7da20bda3045397f)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Frederik on June 06, 2015, 01:33:55 am
Thank you, now i am hungry :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 06, 2015, 01:54:07 am
Here is an analogy about food
If you're still confused, keep reading! I hope this can help explain it a little better...

Think of North and South 1.0 as a nice, fruity, juicy, raspberry tart. Mmmm, tastey right. We all want a slice of that tart, and we can't wait until it's done!

So right now, North and South looks something like this:
(https://marshmallowsandmargaritas.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/unbaked-pie.jpg)

A pre-oven tart. Unfinished, raw, still has some things that can be improved; but a product we "bakers" a happy with. Now for the first beta, the Union Army had a slice of that pre-oven tart, and said to us "there are problems here and there, and you could improve this". So the team went back to work, made the changes, and put it in the oven for a bit.

After a fraction of the time, we gave another slice of the tart to the Union Army, and we want their feedback on what the tart is like this time. Hopefully they'll notice the changes we made to the old tart, and approve of them. It's also important to note that we got some "tart experts" in to give us their professional opinion of our cooking; people like USNavy were able to go past the simple tasting of the tart and give us their break down on the flavours, textures, etc. and how we can improve each aspect of our beloved dessert.

Now some of you guys have seen these people with slices of the tart, and have instantly thought "they have tart and I don't", without noticing that the tart that they have is uncooked and unfinished. The North and South team wants to give you guys a tart that looks like this:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-tc.pbs.org%2Ffood%2Fwp-content%2Fblogs.dir%2F2%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F09%2Fraspberry-pie-4.jpg&hash=fce022a9ded656b352188a5c7da20bda3045397f)
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lolololol :D

Seeing that there are a couple servers up testing it, I'm sure the DA has had the opportunity to host a test server. Especially after Hinkel kinda told the DA & UA to test it this weekend. Observing this, I tend to think someone, somewhere in the DA, is being a dingus.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on June 06, 2015, 03:46:14 am
What about a jam tart?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 06, 2015, 10:21:20 am
Sick cooking skills Parrot ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 06, 2015, 10:23:16 am
Still doesn't explain why the DA don't have a server. Is it because they are just not putting one up?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 06, 2015, 10:28:20 am
Still doesn't explain why the DA don't have a server. Is it because they are just not putting one up?

They could set up a server with the 1.0 files, but they need some master-files from me.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 06, 2015, 10:35:43 am
Still doesn't explain why the DA don't have a server. Is it because they are just not putting one up?

They could set up a server with the 1.0 files, but they need some master-files from me.

Is it true that he UA and DA are having an event with each other on the weekend? If so, you could give them these master-files of yours.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on June 06, 2015, 10:54:00 am
Is it true that he UA and DA are having an event with each other on the weekend? If so, you could give them these master-files of yours.

The DA does not have the files simply because the UA actual bother to respond and help the Devs. The DA didn't. End of.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on June 06, 2015, 11:09:33 am
The DA is mostly NA and the UA is all EU why would we want to fight NA players?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 06, 2015, 11:14:40 am
The DA is mostly NA and the UA is all EU why would we want to fight NA players?

That is a real problem for me. I am in a NA regiement even though I'm EU. I have wanted to switch for some time but I guess now is not the right time. I am a Volunteer, I'd prefer to be a Private.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on June 06, 2015, 01:34:25 pm
Here is an analogy about food
If you're still confused, keep reading! I hope this can help explain it a little better...

Think of North and South 1.0 as a nice, fruity, juicy, apple pie. Mmmm. We all have seen American Pie, and we can't wait to put the Module in the Warband Directory.

So right now, North and South looks something like this:
(https://marshmallowsandmargaritas.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/unbaked-pie.jpg)

A pre-oven pie. Cold and no hole in it; you could already do certain things with it, but it wouldn't be so glorious and a big mess. Now for the first beta, the Union Army had a slice of that pre-oven pie,and said to us "U WOT M8 IT AINT WARM AND I CANT INSTALL MY FILES". So the team went back to work, put a hole with their fingers in it and put it in the oven for a bit.

Now some of you guys have seen these people with slices of the pie, and have instantly thought "they have good time with pie", without noticing that the pie that they have is cold and shit. The North and South team wants to give you guys a good time with a warm and juicy pie that looks like this:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FAmerican-pie-e1331733449199.jpg&hash=daa652e50453cdb31f151b4efeadf995aff8cae8)
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fixed
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 06, 2015, 02:01:38 pm
Here is an analogy about food
If you're still confused, keep reading! I hope this can help explain it a little better...

Think of North and South 1.0 as a nice, fruity, juicy, apple pie. Mmmm. We all have seen American Pie, and we can't wait to put the Module in the Warband Directory.

So right now, North and South looks something like this:
(https://marshmallowsandmargaritas.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/unbaked-pie.jpg)

A pre-oven pie. Cold and no hole in it; you could already do certain things with it, but it wouldn't be so glorious and a big mess. Now for the first beta, the Union Army had a slice of that pre-oven pie,and said to us "U WOT M8 IT AINT WARM AND I CANT INSTALL MY FILES". So the team went back to work, put a hole with their fingers in it and put it in the oven for a bit.

Now some of you guys have seen these people with slices of the pie, and have instantly thought "they have good time with pie", without noticing that the pie that they have is cold and shit. The North and South team wants to give you guys a good time with a warm and juicy pie that looks like this:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FAmerican-pie-e1331733449199.jpg&hash=daa652e50453cdb31f151b4efeadf995aff8cae8)
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fixed


Cheeky
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 06, 2015, 02:28:40 pm
But funny.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 06, 2015, 11:21:50 pm
Some screens of the 20th Maine using there class in the 1.0 event:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/1gqttQr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkWS4Uf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXAtYAO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NcDFob.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 06, 2015, 11:38:53 pm
Some screens of the 20th Maine using there class in the 1.0 event:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/1gqttQr)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkWS4Uf)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXAtYAO)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NcDFob)
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Screenshots aren't working for some reason.

I can view them when I quote you though -- nice screens!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 06, 2015, 11:43:02 pm

Some screens of the 20th Maine using there class in the 1.0 event:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/1gqttQr)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkWS4Uf)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXAtYAO)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NcDFob)
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Screenshots aren't working for some reason.

I can view them when I quote you though -- nice screens!

Thank you! :) I'll try to get them to work normally.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MrMan04 on June 07, 2015, 12:14:14 am
Hello Hinkel,

 I am a Captain in the 8th Virginia regiment in the Dixieland Army. I am currently talking to communicate with you through BrigGen Whetzel (he has been sending you steam messages) about trying to get a Unit In game for our Regiment. We are willing to donate money and our group has been active within the DA since October of 2014. Is there any way representatives from our Regiment can chat with you, because we may be even willing to change our name back to the 8th Alabama to get the "Emerald Guards" Uniform. Let me know if we can chat!

Thanks,
MrMan- Captain of the 8thVA
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 07, 2015, 12:27:04 am
Hello Hinkel,

 I am a Captain in the 8th Virginia regiment in the Dixieland Army. I am currently talking to communicate with you through BrigGen Whetzel (he has been sending you steam messages) about trying to get a Unit In game for our Regiment. We are willing to donate money and our group has been active within the DA since October of 2014. Is there any way representatives from our Regiment can chat with you, because we may be even willing to change our name back to the 8th Alabama to get the "Emerald Guards" Uniform. Let me know if we can chat!

Thanks,
MrMan- Captain of the 8thVA

You should probably have private messaged him.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ManlyMan on June 07, 2015, 12:36:16 am
Hello Hinkel,

 I am a Captain in the 8th Virginia regiment in the Dixieland Army. I am currently talking to communicate with you through BrigGen Whetzel (he has been sending you steam messages) about trying to get a Unit In game for our Regiment. We are willing to donate money and our group has been active within the DA since October of 2014. Is there any way representatives from our Regiment can chat with you, because we may be even willing to change our name back to the 8th Alabama to get the "Emerald Guards" Uniform. Let me know if we can chat!

Thanks,
MrMan- Captain of the 8thVA

Goddammit MrMan
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on June 07, 2015, 12:56:41 am
The fail is real
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MrMan04 on June 07, 2015, 01:01:02 am
I'm sorry If I inconvenienced any of you all..... I never really participate in forums, only read them.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on June 07, 2015, 02:12:30 am
Ah!. I was playing with the uniforms yesterday too, and made a 10thNY skin
Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/982a46657ffdfb748723ac256109b2b1.gif)
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Hinkel I have a question, Why any zouave regiment hasn't a "turban" with the hat? I remember in WoR
Please Hinkel make this a thing!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Carson on June 07, 2015, 03:43:30 am
Played 1.0 for the first time today and my mind was blown because of  how good it looked!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Colonel Francis on June 07, 2015, 06:12:19 am
I've been playing North and South Beta 1.0 since it was in closed beta. Even when it was first on the Union Army Server, and I never had a problem with the mod. Acted like any other mod when it came play time.Such as the no crashing, no freezing, or the long delays in movement. However, with the new release of the newer version of the beta, the mod as been hell to play with.

Today was the first official event in the Dixieland Army, with a good attendance around 130 people. First time that my regiment (5th Georgia Volunteers) would get to use our skins. Pretty excited, and the fact that I was offline for two days, so I was eager to enjoy the 1.0. However, after I got the balance with the teams situated, I tried joining the server(Crashed while changing maps), and  every time I tried to log into the several, with the map of Manassas Day, it crashed. I've tried 7 times to log into the server, and it crashed. So, I figured it was the map. As soon it changed to the next map, Side of Town, I'd join it. For a couple of mins, it freezes, I crash. Or, the Uniforms turn black, and a red text pops up in the lower left corner. The text reads " Unable to open texture file *Texture name* Modules/North and South(EDX-1)". After that, the games crashes because all the uniforms turn black. And of course there's other ways the game crashes like, freezing while trying to move, hell even looking around, ect. Im not saying I have a bad computer, I can usually run Arma two on high graphics and alot of other games. So I really don't know where the problems lies.

I turned down my graphics, hoping that would relieve it. Nothing, I've reinstalled the mod, nothing, Ive also reinstalled Mount and Blade: Warband nothing. If you guys know anything regarding how I can simply enjoy a event without crashing every 5mins, that would be awesome.  :D

- [5thGA] Irish Warrior, Brigadier General
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on June 07, 2015, 06:16:50 am
(Crashed while changing maps)

I got this a lot. My frames really dropped and then I crashed every time a new map was introduced, and to a lesser extent during the new rounds. I thought it was the sheer amount of people and need to run with that many people on, but I encountered similar when we held our briefing post-game on the 1.0 server with approx 15 guys and experienced the same near the end of it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Colonel Francis on June 07, 2015, 06:49:31 am
(Crashed while changing maps)

I got this a lot. My frames really dropped and then I crashed every time a new map was introduced, and to a lesser extent during the new rounds. I thought it was the sheer amount of people and need to run with that many people on, but I encountered similar when we held our briefing post-game on the 1.0 server with approx 15 guys and experienced the same near the end of it.

I agree with what Powers is saying. On average I have around 60 frames, not bad at all. But during a map change (can be any map) I generally crash. Another big one is when I freeze, becomes almost like slow motion, sound is still fine. But the games just moves in the slowest pace possible, then crash.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 07, 2015, 10:16:43 am
I didn't get crashes during all the week I was playing, but players of my regiment crashed few time and they told me that this only happens to them in NaS 1.0

About FPS I have 110-120 all time, but when I go to the troop selection menu the FPS drops to 15, its not a big problem, but maybe devs need to know it
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 07, 2015, 11:38:23 am
I play on Low settings and some maps are slow but most of them look great and run fine. Also my frames are around 30-40. I was on another test server and the ping was 200 though.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 07, 2015, 12:16:22 pm
the Uniforms turn black, and a red text pops up in the lower left corner. The text reads " Unable to open texture file *Texture name* Modules/North and South(EDX-1)". After that, the games crashes because all the uniforms turn black. And of course there's other ways the game crashes like, freezing while trying to move, hell even looking around, ect. Im not saying I have a bad computer, I can usually run Arma two on high graphics and alot of other games. So I really don't know where the problems lies.

This sounds like the mod wasn't installed properly. You did remove the old versions of the beta before installing the new ones right?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 07, 2015, 12:22:05 pm
If you want to check, if the beta installed correct.. The "North and South Beta" folder should contain ~3.340 files ~2.15 GB in total
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 07, 2015, 01:22:29 pm
Some screens of the 20th Maine using there class in the 1.0 event:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/1gqttQr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkWS4Uf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXAtYAO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NcDFob.jpg)
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Images now work :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 07, 2015, 04:14:02 pm
Some screens of the 20th Maine using there class in the 1.0 event:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/1gqttQr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkWS4Uf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXAtYAO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NcDFob.jpg)
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Images now work :)
Well lookie there. I think I got a screenshot of you as well, but from Confederate spawn.

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F545280244454028853%2FD1B4583F7D6FEC903F767BB941AEBA1866F69DFA%2F&hash=638cf7a55376a4802daa5ca221f4d132219cb77f)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 07, 2015, 04:21:24 pm
Well fancy that :)

Also got this one, can you see yourself?  ;)

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/E8GQvVi.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 07, 2015, 04:35:09 pm
Can't say that I do. But then again, we were skirmishers, so it's our job to not be seen. :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 07, 2015, 04:40:13 pm
Can't say that I do. But then again, we were skirmishers, so it's our job to not be seen. :P

I was just like: 'Fire at will!' and all the guys were like: 'where?', 'at the smoke!'  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Colonel Francis on June 07, 2015, 04:42:14 pm
Quote
This sounds like the mod wasn't installed properly. You did remove the old versions of the beta before installing the new ones right?

Yes, I was told in order to get the new beta, you needed to get ride of the older version. So I did. But from what I can tell, the new version holds everything Hinkel just said.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 07, 2015, 04:49:01 pm
How about you delete any BETA folders and re-install the new BETA.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on June 07, 2015, 07:12:50 pm
Some screens of the 20th Maine using there class in the 1.0 event:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/1gqttQr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkWS4Uf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QXAtYAO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NcDFob.jpg)
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Images now work :)
Just wondering, what map was that?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 07, 2015, 07:15:28 pm
The round tops ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on June 07, 2015, 07:15:59 pm
The round tops ;)
I figured, looked like it from the screenies  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohnPrice on June 08, 2015, 08:27:01 am
When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: FroFro on June 08, 2015, 10:02:41 am
When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
This fake John Price.....Kassovik u scwub get rid of this infadel
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohnPrice on June 08, 2015, 10:30:28 am
When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
This fake John Price.....Kassovik u scwub get rid of this infadel
*Glares at FroFro In Frustration* I challenge you sir! To a duel! *Slaps FroFro with a Glove*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: fieldshire on June 08, 2015, 10:34:54 am

When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
This fake John Price.....Kassovik u scwub get rid of this infadel
*Glares at FroFro In Frustration* I challenge you sir! To a duel! *Slaps FroFro with a Glove*
*FroFro and his homies beat the shit out of you.*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Kaasovic on June 08, 2015, 10:35:44 am
When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
This fake John Price.....Kassovik u scwub get rid of this infadel
*Glares at FroFro In Frustration* I challenge you sir! To a duel! *Slaps FroFro with a Glove*

MEMES AWAY!! *kills price with a 1000kg meme*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mebphis on June 08, 2015, 10:37:47 am
Had lots of fun on Saturday, the sounds are incredible and it looks very nice. Hated getting shot causing me to bleed and become a walking corpse for a bit. :'(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 08, 2015, 01:34:47 pm
Beta 1.0 - Recorded by Chadman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RloQVKNaInE
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eraamion on June 08, 2015, 01:38:38 pm
The DA's Sunday siege event was a blast,despite the frame rate drops due to large amounts of cannon and musket fire from about 120 people. The bleeding out effect made holding the flag quite difficult at times.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 08, 2015, 04:49:38 pm
Spoiler
When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
This fake John Price.....Kassovik u scwub get rid of this infadel
*Glares at FroFro In Frustration* I challenge you sir! To a duel! *Slaps FroFro with a Glove*

MEMES AWAY!! *kills price with a 1000kg meme*
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Kaaso. I salute you! You are truly an FSE hero.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: FroFro on June 09, 2015, 09:29:43 am
Spoiler
When this update comes out I think I might get my Regiment involved  :D, It looks awesome.. (Although WoR is going to be the God of all Civil War FPS games there is, probably even more! :P).
This fake John Price.....Kassovik u scwub get rid of this infadel
*Glares at FroFro In Frustration* I challenge you sir! To a duel! *Slaps FroFro with a Glove*

MEMES AWAY!! *kills price with a 1000kg meme*
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Kaaso. I salute you! You are truly an FSE hero.
You had doubt about our lord and savior kaasovic?

Burn the infadel.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 09, 2015, 11:03:17 am
I never had any doubt about the dead and revived memer,lord and savior Kaaso.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 09, 2015, 01:20:33 pm
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The DA's Sunday siege event was a blast,despite the frame rate drops due to large amounts of cannon and musket fire from about 120 people. The bleeding out effect made holding the flag quite difficult at times.

Personally I hated the bleeding out system, I dont like I need to take away a man or two to go medics (I know you can go Sergeant but the 1st MN class only get the Mississippi rifle which doesnt have a bayonet) So its currently detrimental to the mod IMO. But I guess for RP its cool  :-X
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 09, 2015, 01:28:34 pm
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The DA's Sunday siege event was a blast,despite the frame rate drops due to large amounts of cannon and musket fire from about 120 people. The bleeding out effect made holding the flag quite difficult at times.

Personally I hated the bleeding out system, I dont like I need to take away a man or two to go medics (I know you can go Sergeant but the 1st MN class only get the Mississippi rifle which doesnt have a bayonet) So its currently detrimental to the mod IMO. But I guess for RP its cool  :-X

Its not only for RP.. the main reason for the bleeding system is to make the rounds faster. People will die quicker, so the rounds of a line battle will be bit faster.

And yes... the 1st MI sergeant will get a Harpers Ferry Rifle in the upcoming patch..  ::) 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 09, 2015, 02:11:52 pm
pls Hinkel, add the option to select the rifle to all the sergeants and not only few :S
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on June 09, 2015, 03:34:59 pm
And yes... the 1st MI sergeant will get a Harpers Ferry Rifle in the upcoming patch

 ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 09, 2015, 04:11:05 pm
I'd called it a new version, not a patch... but.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on June 09, 2015, 05:29:21 pm
I prefer the term release
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 09, 2015, 05:56:57 pm
I prefer the term release

Well, for us in the developer team, its a patch for the closed beta.. ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hijackmaniac on June 09, 2015, 08:42:27 pm
ahaaaa...that´s why there are no download links anymore...well...i´ll be waiting >:)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 09, 2015, 11:08:25 pm
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And yes... the 1st MI sergeant will get a Harpers Ferry Rifle in the upcoming patch..  ::)

The 1st Michigan? Just kidding I know you meant Minnesota (MN)  ;D and thank you for the option to give them Harpers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on June 11, 2015, 01:08:50 am
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/p91DYWC.jpg)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 11, 2015, 08:51:52 am
Nice ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 11, 2015, 01:36:32 pm
Lol
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eraamion on June 12, 2015, 11:07:15 pm
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/z4X1ev2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hFthC5w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SGEJHiw.jpg)
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Some screenshots from the end UA event hosted on the 1.0 beta. Our lord Hinkel blessed us with his presence during the last round of the LB aswell.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 13, 2015, 11:12:36 am
Ugh, single rank lines...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 13, 2015, 11:16:34 am
Ugh, single rank lines...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on June 13, 2015, 11:23:46 am
Ugh, single rank lines...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on June 13, 2015, 05:56:08 pm
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on June 13, 2015, 10:53:19 pm
 
8thVA ,3rdArk, 16th LA and 23rdNC battle flags that I made thoughts also this is my first try .

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362690108574%2FAEBB5EAE2D30DB2D1F5BE3E130FDBC43D4B9F1C7%2F&hash=d18b231420e4cfb783c67a8e02bb565712b43eb8) 
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 13, 2015, 11:05:05 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o[/youtube]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 13, 2015, 11:41:57 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o[/youtube]
Nice meme.  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on June 13, 2015, 11:42:32 pm
ty :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: 72ndPA on June 14, 2015, 01:52:01 am
Spoiler
30thArk  flag  (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362690793159%2FD99A8EA030BE9436A4677EE4475FB35DF7B9C1B8%2F&hash=e1cb10a13549a8ecab6ca1f036f0560cb9d044d9)

    8thVA flag   (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362690036615%2FD24D588855F8F557504D3EECC457337227A7BE1B%2F&hash=3c6186889a2642b0f01db96b63a2988b51f11624)

3rdArk   flag   (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362689802482%2F461A4CB19D2BF0204EEA5E54E740E0BE17FCFA85%2F&hash=989a7eedfce5c148ac079178d42d305ecf74dfe7)

     16thLA   Flag (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362687858943%2FB75FDF3A03E7892116EBDFF0F9AF8AE5CFFA5BDD%2F&hash=dc98460b5372b798287ba8de5649d14e86cb63bc)

     23rdNC Flag  (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362689612079%2FB385553B0E564E7F68FA15FA2F07DCAEE878C81B%2F&hash=3c73b55d5349a282f2cc40f5733103d7ef9a1a11)

Polk's Corps flag   (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F519385362691355629%2F18B81588A9931562003332F415CB70D8B0C20F84%2F&hash=e34cae7e705d25ae6badebee9952ee860a201b03)
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This is not the thread to show your work, if you're not part of the NaS dev team don't post patch work as it could be mistaken by a casual visitor.

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 14, 2015, 05:46:04 am
Rhett, there is a screenshot thread. Also these could use spoilers.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 14, 2015, 05:55:29 am
Just curious what other fixes/additions are planned in the next beta and/or final release of 1.0. I already saw where the bayonet was or will be fixed for the Mississippi rifle. Very much looking forward to that. I also like the bandage system in place where NCO's can bring bandages.

Thanks - DA_5thGA_Sgt_Arkansan
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eraamion on June 15, 2015, 04:46:22 pm
Just curious what other fixes/additions are planned in the next beta and/or final release of 1.0. I already saw where the bayonet was or will be fixed for the Mississippi rifle. Very much looking forward to that. I also like the bandage system in place where NCO's can bring bandages.

Thanks - DA_5thGA_Sgt_Arkansan
The only problem with the NCO's getting bandages is that the cav NCOs can take bandages; and when you are in a hurry to select your class/rank you can get stuck with bandages and not a sabre!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: michaelsmithern on June 16, 2015, 04:31:09 pm
Hmm don't know about you guys but i'm not a big fan of the bleeding out system, but then again i'm just a run in there and give him the bayonet type of guy, but maybe there could be a way to turn it off, if you wanted. But as far as i'm concerned i'll still play it with or without the bleeding out.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 16, 2015, 04:40:32 pm
If I remember correctly, bleeding was put in to speed up linebattle rounds since they still tend to have quite a bit of camping. It's a bit frustrating bleeding out, but if someone takes a Sgt. class, it isn't that much of a problem.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 16, 2015, 05:19:22 pm
If I remember correctly, bleeding was put in to speed up linebattle rounds since they still tend to have quite a bit of camping. It's a bit frustrating bleeding out, but if someone takes a Sgt. class, it isn't that much of a problem.

You are correct, but if you have Sergeants it's almost impossible to die from it unless you are in a prolonged melee.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peinguino on June 16, 2015, 08:15:13 pm
Oh well.
I got the zipped version of the 1.0 from Diplexheated and was very exited to play this fantastic looking mod. But ,sadness awaits, i can't seem to get pass the textures in the loading screen and after waiting 5-10 minutes the screen simply goes black and M&B Warband crashes.
I tried with ''Load Textures on Demand'' option checked in but that just goes straight to crash my game no loading just black screen then dead.
Searched on the board and it seem that only one other guy had this problem and that what solved it was checking the load textures on demand option.

I didn't see any Bug report thread so i'll guess its okay for me to post here.
Please help this mod seems fantastic and really wanted to play it  :'(

Also the 0.5 version works fine.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 16, 2015, 08:46:19 pm
Please help this mod seems fantastic and really wanted to play it  :'(

Do you have a 32bit system?
The mod requieres a 64bit system and more then 2GB ram..


Beside that.. for a bit of mapping variation :)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150616%2Fugd4ka6n.jpg&hash=46d4382857d8f16eb8d5ac318b2fe28a8f896adb)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on June 16, 2015, 09:16:17 pm
That would help quite a bit  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 16, 2015, 09:17:26 pm
Do you have a 32bit system?
The mod requieres a 64bit system and more then 2GB ram..
Oh, well then I guess i'll be missing this mod then.  :-\
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 16, 2015, 09:25:02 pm

Oh, well then I guess i'll be missing this mod then.  :-\

I don't know, why people have 32bit system in those days..  :o
But there is a fix for it somewhere.. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on June 16, 2015, 09:52:17 pm
Fix is right here:
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24269.0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on June 16, 2015, 11:48:49 pm
Is the medic system solely for healing people? I feel like that bleeding out mechanic in some mods ruins so much for people...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 17, 2015, 12:03:39 am
Why dont you come and join a line battle with beta 1.0.. audiate? I thought you are in the union army.
So you could test it out? :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on June 17, 2015, 12:06:10 am
I guess some people don't wan't to spoil it for themselves before it releases in it's finished state?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on June 17, 2015, 02:18:27 am
Why dont you come and join a line battle with beta 1.0.. audiate? I thought you are in the union army.
So you could test it out? :)

This Saturday, hopefully. ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 17, 2015, 11:55:22 am
The bleeding systems help the events to be more fasters, the rounds ends fast. But I need to say that sometimes is really caotic when some members of your regiment are bleeding out. But it make the mod better, I like it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on June 17, 2015, 06:59:19 pm
The bleeding systems help the events to be more fasters, the rounds ends fast. But I need to say that sometimes is really caotic when some members of your regiment are bleeding out. But it make the mod better, I like it.
Wholeheartedly agree with that, but that's why most regiments should have sergeants with bandages to help deal with those chaotic situations.   
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Killafireman on June 17, 2015, 08:53:19 pm
Can Some one give me the download link for N&S
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 17, 2015, 09:01:59 pm
Can Some one give me the download link for N&S

The latest version hasn't been publicly released yet I'm afraid.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peinguino on June 17, 2015, 11:49:26 pm
I have a Win7 64bit computer.
Thanks for having take the time to help me but no it doesn't work.
I'll guess i will join a NW regiment instead.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: gmanburger on June 17, 2015, 11:54:48 pm
Sad it didn't work.... But good idea with the NW regiment thing they are cool also I guess
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peppers on June 19, 2015, 05:16:47 am
Bleeding out is.... difficult gives a different aspect in the game I like it, something different and "semi" realistic (not the most but really cool) I like it great addition  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 19, 2015, 04:20:43 pm
Official statement

Bans
The new 1.0 update will offer a bunch of new admin tools, like showing different stats of the players.. you can see the last top 20 teamkiller and such.
Admins are able to ban those TKer.. even, if they are not on the server.

Those regiments, who are TKing at the end of a round, are troll regiments for us and we won't tolarate such a behaviour any more. When those guys are listed in the Top 20, the entire regiment might get banned.

Weather
Admins will have fully controll of the entire map settings, like time of day, weather, fog, thunder and more!
Every map can be played in various different settings, without editing the map.


This is just a small bunch of new stuff, which will be in the final 1.0 pretty soon! ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 19, 2015, 04:30:19 pm
Will your current tks be around for when these features weren't around? I was just figuring since some people might not be able to do better if they already have a bunch of tks on their ass since earlier.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 19, 2015, 04:38:43 pm
Will your current tks be around for when these features weren't around? I was just figuring since some people might not be able to do better if they already have a bunch of tks on their ass since earlier.

Na.. there will be a new list, when the mod is out..
The beta will not count ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 19, 2015, 05:21:37 pm
Will your current tks be around for when these features weren't around? I was just figuring since some people might not be able to do better if they already have a bunch of tks on their ass since earlier.

Na.. there will be a new list, when the mod is out..
The beta will not count ;)
Ok, nice.   :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hardcorefreestyleboy on June 19, 2015, 05:45:09 pm
Weather:
Truly awesome. Never imagined thats possible in the Warband engine.

Mod bans:
Horrible idea. Im a NW server owner and I know what kind of admins are out there. They dont necessarily have to be trolls, there are many admins that are just harsh and douchebags. A permanent ban from the particular server is absolutely enough. I host my server for around a year and I have not more than 3-4 players logbanned (permanently), excluding the betty reg, and it is all working very well. Getting banned by idiotic admins is one thing Ill have to accept but getting banned from a mod is something whole different that shouldnt be possible for average admins.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 19, 2015, 06:05:26 pm
Weather:
Truly awesome. Never imagined thats possible in the Warband engine.

Mod bans:
Horrible idea. Im a NW server owner and I know what kind of admins are out there. They dont necessarily have to be trolls, there are many admins that are just harsh and douchebags. A permanent ban from the particular server is absolutely enough. I host my server for around a year and I have not more than 3-4 players logbanned (permanently), excluding the betty reg, and it is all working very well. Getting banned by idiotic admins is one thing Ill have to accept but getting banned from a mod is something whole different that shouldnt be possible for average admins.
Agreed. Also, if a group of trolls joins a server wearing my regiments' tags and starts teamkilling, if they get banned, will the legitimate regiment members be at risk of banning as well?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 19, 2015, 06:08:23 pm
Well.. already fixed it. It would be ID based anyway.. and can be checked, who used your names.
The Ban will be server based...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mebphis on June 19, 2015, 06:17:31 pm
Bleeding out is.... difficult gives a different aspect in the game I like it, something different and "semi" realistic (not the most but really cool) I like it great addition  :D

But sometimes it can cause issues much like in Iron Europe, if someone gets shot during a charge a lot of the time people will stop the charge to seek out a medic making things look messy and ruining the charge, not to mention it's frustrating. But I agree it can also improve things like round speed and immersion to some extent.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 19, 2015, 06:58:16 pm
Mod bans:
Horrible idea. Im a NW server owner and I know what kind of admins are out there. They dont necessarily have to be trolls, there are many admins that are just harsh and douchebags. A permanent ban from the particular server is absolutely enough. I host my server for around a year and I have not more than 3-4 players logbanned (permanently), excluding the betty reg, and it is all working very well. Getting banned by idiotic admins is one thing Ill have to accept but getting banned from a mod is something whole different that shouldnt be possible for average admins.
^ I strongly agree with this. 1+
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 19, 2015, 07:36:40 pm
Quote
Mod bans:
Horrible idea. Im a NW server owner and I know what kind of admins are out there. They dont necessarily have to be trolls, there are many admins that are just harsh and douchebags. A permanent ban from the particular server is absolutely enough. I host my server for around a year and I have not more than 3-4 players logbanned (permanently), excluding the betty reg, and it is all working very well. Getting banned by idiotic admins is one thing Ill have to accept but getting banned from a mod is something whole different that shouldnt be possible for average admins.
^ I strongly agree with this. 1+

Yea that is taking it way to far to ban someone from a mod. Hinkel did you get the scripts for the weather and day cycle from the deluge?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 19, 2015, 07:40:42 pm
Hinkel did you get the scripts for the weather and day cycle from the deluge?

Nope, we have a new talented young man, who is putting out scripts like hell since 2 days :)
He said, it was a matter of minutes, to get such a weather/day script working :D

He added other cool stuff within a short time, like a "Next Page" button for units.. which could get us to make 30 infantry per faction.. as an example.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on June 19, 2015, 07:57:10 pm
Hinkel did you get the scripts for the weather and day cycle from the deluge?

Nope, we have a new talented young man, who is putting out scripts like hell since 2 days :)
He said, it was a matter of minutes, to get such a weather/day script working :D

He added other cool stuff within a short time, like a "Next Page" button for units.. which could get us to make 30 infantry per faction.. as an example.
Oh lord. *mod delayed for 2 more years to create 60 new units*. That is really cool though, didn't know it was possible.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 19, 2015, 08:17:20 pm
My gods that is pretty revolutionary for mount and blade mods if they got their hands on it!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peppers on June 19, 2015, 09:37:51 pm
New admin tools sounds awesome!  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on June 19, 2015, 11:07:32 pm
T
Hinkel did you get the scripts for the weather and day cycle from the deluge?

Nope, we have a new talented young man, who is putting out scripts like hell since 2 days :)
He said, it was a matter of minutes, to get such a weather/day script working :D

He added other cool stuff within a short time, like a "Next Page" button for units.. which could get us to make 30 infantry per faction.. as an example.
do i know who you're talking about? ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 19, 2015, 11:13:24 pm
do i know who you're talking about? ;)

Yes sir.. ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 19, 2015, 11:19:30 pm
 :o spooky
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 19, 2015, 11:36:43 pm
:o spooky
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Louisss on June 20, 2015, 12:15:28 am
download link??
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 20, 2015, 12:22:29 am
download link??

Not yet, soon to come out, but if you'd like to get a peak at closed beta which is being fully tested by the Armies of the Civil war, you could join the 11th New York and be one of them ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: LFCJames on June 20, 2015, 01:56:36 am
That recruiting though Dom :P Sneaky but good.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on June 20, 2015, 03:27:39 am
I'm just going to leave this here....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBenSkpzDo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 20, 2015, 05:21:32 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  ;D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 20, 2015, 11:13:13 am
This is gold hahahah. And true from my experience in the DA  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 20, 2015, 11:38:55 am
Oh no... not again!  ;D

I loved my role in the second part. Harrison Ford was a good choice! :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on June 20, 2015, 11:57:43 am
that vid gave me a chuckle, the Alexander part with the updated jungle got me XD dem graphic  8)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 20, 2015, 12:44:29 pm
that vid gave me a chuckle, the Alexander part with the updated jungle got me XD dem graphic  8)

Dunno how accurate that is though :P. Alexander never made it that far.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 20, 2015, 04:29:40 pm
Well.. I think Commander Battles need some fresh, new look.. ;)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffs1.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F150620%2Fuzvn73oc.jpg&hash=a94fab80768daffc79c63d6a64c24df55d595914)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 20, 2015, 05:06:00 pm
Are you able to make both ranks stand? Would be better for the ACW setting.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 20, 2015, 05:18:58 pm
ACW 3.6 mini edition  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 20, 2015, 11:04:22 pm
Are you able to make both ranks stand? Would be better for the ACW setting.
I dont think this is possible, but if you want, you can form 1 row, problem solved :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: JohannGustavsen on June 21, 2015, 01:32:58 am
We need a choir class now!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 21, 2015, 05:25:49 am
This may be kind of a noobish question but how do you get the AI to hold flags/banners? Looking at that Commander Battles screenshot it looks like AI are holding the flags, so yeah. Help will be appreciated.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on June 21, 2015, 06:41:40 am
I think they may spawn with one at the start in 1.0.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 21, 2015, 07:18:53 am
Are you able to make both ranks stand? Would be better for the ACW setting.
I dont think this is possible, but if you want, you can form 1 row, problem solved :D
'Tis possible if you've ever played Squad Leaders in The Deluge.
Should've asked "are you going to" instead of "are you able"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 21, 2015, 09:24:31 am
This may be kind of a noobish question but how do you get the AI to hold flags/banners? Looking at that Commander Battles screenshot it looks like AI are holding the flags, so yeah. Help will be appreciated.

It will be an exclusive feature of North and South for the moment.
With a little bit of coding its possible. You can even have officers and musicians in your line :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Sgt_Void_Johnson on June 21, 2015, 10:09:34 am
This might be a bit of a rude question, but where can I actually download this MOD ?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Eraamion on June 21, 2015, 10:16:44 am
This might be a bit of a rude question, but where can I actually download this MOD ?

The 1.0 is still in private Beta,join a regiment involved in the private beta for the download link.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 21, 2015, 12:15:37 pm
Weather:
Truly awesome. Never imagined thats possible in the Warband engine.

Mod bans:
Horrible idea. Im a NW server owner and I know what kind of admins are out there. They dont necessarily have to be trolls, there are many admins that are just harsh and douchebags. A permanent ban from the particular server is absolutely enough. I host my server for around a year and I have not more than 3-4 players logbanned (permanently), excluding the betty reg, and it is all working very well. Getting banned by idiotic admins is one thing Ill have to accept but getting banned from a mod is something whole different that shouldnt be possible for average admins.
Agreed. Also, if a group of trolls joins a server wearing my regiments' tags and starts teamkilling, if they get banned, will the legitimate regiment members be at risk of banning as well?
I just saw this and I think it is a little missunderstanding. This list of the last 10 teamkiller means not that they are evil guys. It gives just the admin the possibility to find them fast, if he wants to. Also it gives him the possibility to ban someone who teamkills and leave the server instant. In the end the ban have to be spoken out from an admin and is only active on the one server he did it.
Mainly this feature is for cases, when trolls join a linebattle with faketags, teamkill at the beginning of the round 5-10 guys and disconnect before you get them. Then they rejoin with a new faketag. With this tool you can find that troll very fast and can ban him, even when he already left the server.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 21, 2015, 12:43:14 pm
We got new reinforcements!  8)

I would like to announce our new team-member Kanade Tachibana!
He is a talented german guy (yay, another one!  :P), who is doing some important scripts for our upcoming North and South 1.0.
Those who already have the closed beta will be suprised to see some fancy new stuff, made by Kanade (alias Wuestenkrieger).

Just to name a few of his additions: Admin weather, new commander battle features, medical supply crates and Interface adjustments.

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F41.media.tumblr.com%2F48da0c7a69f3cf8bbff3a3837c3616f7%2Ftumblr_mo2z318pNQ1rk5a3so1_1280.png&hash=3f50e5d0f4a07ab9097589d70f514d3284a13ae4)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peppers on June 21, 2015, 04:50:36 pm
Looks amazing!  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Audiate on June 21, 2015, 05:22:48 pm
Mainly this feature is for cases, when trolls join a linebattle with faketags, teamkill at the beginning of the round 5-10 guys and disconnect before you get them. Then they rejoin with a new faketag. With this tool you can find that troll very fast and can ban him, even when he already left the server.

I didn't quite understand the system fully before, but that actually seems really great, given how terrible trolling has gotten in the past. The original 11thNY actually had to disband starting with a GunZo incident (I've forgiven him since then, he's funny outside of M&B, but it's still something that shouldn't have to happen to other regiments), so this seems really damn progressive towards preventing that sort of thing.

And the weather! YES!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Roebuck on June 21, 2015, 05:50:50 pm
Banjos would be a cool and completely unnecessary addition to this mod
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 21, 2015, 06:43:48 pm
I just saw this and I think it is a little missunderstanding. This list of the last 10 teamkiller means not that they are evil guys. It gives just the admin the possibility to find them fast, if he wants to. Also it gives him the possibility to ban someone who teamkills and leave the server instant. In the end the ban have to be spoken out from an admin and is only active on the one server he did it.
Mainly this feature is for cases, when trolls join a linebattle with faketags, teamkill at the beginning of the round 5-10 guys and disconnect before you get them. Then they rejoin with a new faketag. With this tool you can find that troll very fast and can ban him, even when he already left the server.
In that case, I'm absolutely fine with it. It would actually really be useful for NW events as well.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on June 21, 2015, 07:00:32 pm
We got new reinforcements!  8)

I would like to announce our new team-member Kanade Tachibana!
He is a talented german guy (yay, another one!  :P), who is doing some important scripts for our upcoming North and South 1.0.
Those who already have the closed beta will be suprised to see some fancy new stuff, made by Kanade (alias Wuestenkrieger).

Just to name a few of his additions: Admin weather, new commander battle features, medical supply crates and Interface adjustments.

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F41.media.tumblr.com%2F48da0c7a69f3cf8bbff3a3837c3616f7%2Ftumblr_mo2z318pNQ1rk5a3so1_1280.png&hash=3f50e5d0f4a07ab9097589d70f514d3284a13ae4)
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How exactly do medical supply crates work? Do you get a bandage from them or do they stop your bleeding or both?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 21, 2015, 07:16:06 pm
How exactly do medical supply crates work? Do you get a bandage from them or do they stop your bleeding or both?

Its an option for mappers:

The mapper can place such a crate at each spawn. Each crate will assign 10 bandages for privates for example ...
So you can get some more bandages for your units.

If the crate is used 10 times, its empty.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 21, 2015, 07:35:25 pm
How exactly do medical supply crates work? Do you get a bandage from them or do they stop your bleeding or both?
The mapper can place such a crate at each spawn. Each crate will assign 10 bandages for privates for example ...
So you can get some more bandages for your units.

Does this mean bandages will get a 1 time use until it is depleted? And if so does this mean doctors will carry say, 4 bandages, while NCO's have 1?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 21, 2015, 07:36:16 pm
Bandages are still usable unlimited.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Arkansan on June 21, 2015, 07:43:55 pm
okey doke
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Incognitoandahalf on June 22, 2015, 03:37:11 am

He added other cool stuff within a short time, like a "Next Page" button for units.. which could get us to make 30 infantry per faction.. as an example.

Hinkel it's awesome that he figured out how to implement a next page but wouldn't it be quicker and easier to just add another tab or two?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 22, 2015, 11:01:50 am
I just added another Tab. But it looked overloaded there, so we decided to remove it again and make the Button.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ambiguous on June 22, 2015, 12:41:25 pm
I have a bit of confusion as to getting the server files can anyone help me out?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 22, 2015, 12:51:59 pm
I have a bit of confusion as to getting the server files can anyone help me out?
Hmmm... So... No.  :P
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 22, 2015, 01:11:38 pm
I have a bit of confusion as to getting the server files can anyone help me out?

There are no server files for the beta.. and 1.0 will be released "soon". I don't know, if there will be official server files for 1.0 .. you have to get the files by the team and sign our rules.. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mebphis on June 22, 2015, 03:55:51 pm
Got sniped by a dev whilst sat on my horse miles away from any lines. 10/10  please stop
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: hairywarhero on June 22, 2015, 04:04:11 pm
Got sniped by a dev whilst sat on my horse miles away from any lines. 10/10  please stop

https://youtu.be/UWhHe-Xy_OY?t=1m39s

Did you feel like this? go to 1:39
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dynamo on June 22, 2015, 10:12:48 pm
Is there another Link to download North and South ? because I wanted to play this with some friends but I still can't find a link to download it.
could you guys send me a working Link for North and South so I can play with some friends please?

Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 22, 2015, 10:32:22 pm
Got sniped by a dev whilst sat on my horse miles away from any lines. 10/10  please stop

https://youtu.be/UWhHe-Xy_OY?t=1m39s

Did you feel like this? go to 1:39

One of my favorite scenes in the film :D. The song (Fife and gun) really adds another feel to it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 23, 2015, 12:02:37 am
360 whitworth'ed
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Bravescot on June 23, 2015, 12:05:21 am
Anyone else notice that when the Sergeant says "He's dead" and the camera zooms out the men are standing like it's the painting of the death of General Wolfe at Quebec.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Dynamo on June 23, 2015, 04:18:08 pm
Also ich habe ein Problem den Mod North and South zu downloaden,
ich schicke euch hier mal den genauen Wortlaut der Error-Meldung:

"C:\Users\Philipp\Downloads\NaS_Setup.exe" konnte nicht gefunden werden. Stellen sie sicher, dass Sie den Namen richtig eingegeben haben und wiederholen sie den Vorgang

ich hoffe jemand kann mir helfen

LG Dynamo

I got a problem with downloading this modification (North and South). I'll post the error message: "C:\users\Philipp\downloads\NaS_Setup.exe" couldn't get found. Get sure you entered the name correctly and repeat the process

I hope someone can help me with this error

Greetings Dynamo
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 23, 2015, 04:24:10 pm
Also ich habe ein Problem den Mod North and South zu downloaden,
ich schicke euch hier mal den genauen Wortlaut der Error-Meldung:

"C:\Users\Philipp\Downloads\NaS_Setup.exe" konnte nicht gefunden werden. Stellen sie sicher, dass Sie den Namen richtig eingegeben haben und wiederholen sie den Vorgang

ich hoffe jemand kann mir helfen

This generally means that the file you're download isn't being saved or is being removed by something. Check your anti-virus and make sure it's not removing the executable (this sometimes happens because our installers don't have a registered signature).
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 25, 2015, 09:48:15 pm
Little Teaser  ;D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F446202953300791085%2F4D579B9607C8953881311C078F3FC73D8C73F0F7%2F&hash=db978b26f0e4b00e35b738397f47811c2edba9b5)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 25, 2015, 09:51:32 pm
Little Teaser  ;D

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F446202953300791085%2F4D579B9607C8953881311C078F3FC73D8C73F0F7%2F&hash=db978b26f0e4b00e35b738397f47811c2edba9b5)

:o *Heavy breathing*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 25, 2015, 11:57:43 pm
*Heavy breathing intensifies*
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on June 28, 2015, 04:10:15 pm
add me in hinkel - lost 3rd Ark flag Gettysburg


:'(
(https://i.gyazo.com/ef59d6c594a120d333ee2c0f2630bc39.png)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 28, 2015, 04:29:58 pm
Morks uses black magic.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mebphis on June 28, 2015, 06:19:23 pm
Little Teaser  ;D

*snip*

What advantage will these provide?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 28, 2015, 06:20:13 pm
What advantage will these provide?

Fun and recon, for line battles.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Major Sharpe on June 28, 2015, 08:14:47 pm

What advantage will these provide?

Fun and recon, for line battles.

Wait, you are able to pilot those?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 28, 2015, 08:23:46 pm
Wait, you are able to pilot those?

Of course!
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 28, 2015, 08:28:55 pm
hmm, maybe not as much as you maybe imagine^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Tomäus on June 28, 2015, 08:29:22 pm
Lol, I imagine entire regiments flying in these things :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 28, 2015, 09:32:26 pm
Lol, I imagine entire regiments flying in these things :D
    Bioshock Infinite eh? xD ikr
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 29, 2015, 05:17:11 pm
When I'm looking around at the profiles of all of the users who post on this forum, I realize what a worldwide community we have here. But I also see how little Americans like me who care about their past are on this forum. :(
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 29, 2015, 05:24:38 pm
When I'm looking around at the profiles of all of the users who post on this forum, I realize what a worldwide community we have here. But I also see how little Americans like me who care about their past are on this forum. :(
Are you serious? There are tons of americans hacking at eachother about their past...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Earth Bby on June 29, 2015, 05:57:17 pm
When I'm looking around at the profiles of all of the users who post on this forum, I realize what a worldwide community we have here. But I also see how little Americans like me who care about their past are on this forum. :(

A lot of people play NW and it's mods only a hand full of them use these forums.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 29, 2015, 09:57:16 pm
When I'm looking around at the profiles of all of the users who post on this forum, I realize what a worldwide community we have here. But I also see how little Americans like me who care about their past are on this forum. :(
Are you serious? There are tons of americans hacking at eachother about their past...
Of course I know that. All of this stupidity about taking the Army of N.V.'s battle flag off of our public grounds is making some of us annoyed. I was talking about how only a handful of Americans are bright enough to not see the civil war as something that was all about slavery and something that should be forgotten, and how great it is to have so many hardworking people all over the world to attract attention to those people and to make them really think about our own heritage and history, which really honors our ancestors. But of course, it would be hard to grasp exactly what I was saying from that one small sentence. :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 29, 2015, 10:54:09 pm
Not to turn this into a political thread, but only a minority of people want to get rid of the Confederate battle flag. That minority just happens to be the most vocal minority.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 29, 2015, 11:02:36 pm
Good that this mod is about the Battle of First Manassas. The "banned" dixie cross was unknown during that time ;)
It was introduced 6 months after the battle, in early 1862.

The main confederate flag was still the Stars and Bars, during the entire war.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Peppers on June 30, 2015, 01:31:20 am
Damn... Didn't know that
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MaxLam on June 30, 2015, 02:17:03 am
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition."

Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America

Cornerstone Speech

Savannah, Georgia

March 21, 1861
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 30, 2015, 02:41:24 am
Good that this mod is about the Battle of First Manassas. The "banned" dixie cross was unknown during that time ;)
It was introduced 6 months after the battle, in early 1862.

The main confederate flag was still the Stars and Bars, during the entire war.
The Dixie cross isn't 'banned'. There was just a huge hype about the confederate flag being 'BANNED' because an unreliable news article reported that President Obama signed an executive order banning all Confederate flags and memorabilia in the US, making it illegal to own any Confederate merchandise. This is FALSE, because it would violate our gosh dang constitution! It's just being removed from public places like state buildings here in the US (not that I approve of it being taken down, but that's another long story :). I'm sure that if you wanted to, you could sneak a good 'ol Dixie cross into your mod ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 30, 2015, 02:46:02 am
Good that this mod is about the Battle of First Manassas. The "banned" dixie cross was unknown during that time ;)
It was introduced 6 months after the battle, in early 1862.

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition."

Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America


Cornerstone Speech

Savannah, Georgia

March 21, 1861

But that doesn't necessarily mean that we should start taking down pieces of history that 260,000 soldiers died marching under.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: MaxLam on June 30, 2015, 03:04:25 am
Quote from: Fives53544
But that doesn't necessarily mean that we should start taking down pieces of history that 260,000 soldiers died marching under.

I think that 150 years ago many Americans were "taking down" those "pieces of history". Many died for that, and they eventually won the war. I think that it's honourable for a descendant of those noble Americans to continue the job and make sure that those pieces of history are not displayed in public places, except for educational purposes or to celebrate the glorious victory of the Union. This flag has its place in museums or at the feet of the vanquisher.

The confederate flag is part of all Americans' history, but it's certainly not part of all Americans' legacy. There is a big difference.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 30, 2015, 04:07:15 am
Quote from: Fives53544
But that doesn't necessarily mean that we should start taking down pieces of history that 260,000 soldiers died marching under.

I think that 150 years ago many Americans were "taking down" those "pieces of history". Many died for that, and they eventually won the war. I think that it's honourable for a descendant of those noble Americans to continue the job and make sure that those pieces of history are not displayed in public places, except for educational purposes or to celebrate the glorious victory of the Union. This flag has its place in museums or at the feet of the vanquisher.

The confederate flag is part of all Americans' history, but it's certainly not part of all Americans' legacy. There is a big difference.
I don't want to start a huge political argument on a MOD forum, but our states are just celebrating their state's rights and the fact that we have freedom of expression by flying the flag. It's sad that we can fly nazi swastikas and ISIS battle flags here out on our lawns and no one will look twice, but I can't say the same for the Dixie cross. And summing up what you've just said, that also means that we shouldn't allow British, Native American, Spanish, Fijian, Mexican, Samoan, Chinese, German (as in Imperial flag), Filipino, Bulgarian, Austrian, Ottoman, Japanese, or Italian flags to be flown in our nation? Our union has certainly "gloriously triumphed" over all of these countries. I never told you how to live your life. I was stating a mere fact. Doesn't this belong in the "Thoughts about "Confederate Flag" being banned" post?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on June 30, 2015, 04:30:34 am
Quote from: Fives53544
But that doesn't necessarily mean that we should start taking down pieces of history that 260,000 soldiers died marching under.

I think that 150 years ago many Americans were "taking down" those "pieces of history". Many died for that, and they eventually won the war. I think that it's honourable for a descendant of those noble Americans to continue the job and make sure that those pieces of history are not displayed in public places, except for educational purposes or to celebrate the glorious victory of the Union. This flag has its place in museums or at the feet of the vanquisher.

The confederate flag is part of all Americans' history, but it's certainly not part of all Americans' legacy. There is a big difference.
I don't want to start a huge political argument on a MOD forum, but our states are just celebrating their state's rights and the fact that we have freedom of expression by flying the flag. It's sad that we can fly nazi swastikas and ISIS battle flags here out on our lawns and no one will look twice, but I can't say the same for the Dixie cross. Doesn't this belong in the "Thoughts about "Confederate Flag" being banned" post?
Then take it over there, plus you kind of started it  ;)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 30, 2015, 04:34:00 am
Quote from: Fives53544
But that doesn't necessarily mean that we should start taking down pieces of history that 260,000 soldiers died marching under.

I think that 150 years ago many Americans were "taking down" those "pieces of history". Many died for that, and they eventually won the war. I think that it's honourable for a descendant of those noble Americans to continue the job and make sure that those pieces of history are not displayed in public places, except for educational purposes or to celebrate the glorious victory of the Union. This flag has its place in museums or at the feet of the vanquisher.

The confederate flag is part of all Americans' history, but it's certainly not part of all Americans' legacy. There is a big difference.
I don't want to start a huge political argument on a MOD forum, but our states are just celebrating their state's rights and the fact that we have freedom of expression by flying the flag. It's sad that we can fly nazi swastikas and ISIS battle flags here out on our lawns and no one will look twice, but I can't say the same for the Dixie cross. Doesn't this belong in the "Thoughts about "Confederate Flag" being banned" post?
Then take it over there, plus you kind of started it  ;)
Guilty as charged. Already done :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Fives53544 on June 30, 2015, 06:06:21 am
I hate to be one of THOSE people, but I just had to. How's the mod going? Do you think that it'll be done soon? I'm itching to enjoy all the hard work that you've been putting into the 1.0 release.                             

[Bracing myself for incoming hate comments]
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Ry1459 on June 30, 2015, 06:49:21 am
I hate to be one of THOSE people, but I just had to. How's the mod going? Do you think that it'll be done soon? I'm itching to enjoy all the hard work that you've been putting into the 1.0 release.                             

[Bracing myself for incoming hate comments]
One way of testing out the 1.0 beta is to join a N&S regiment who has access to it.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 30, 2015, 02:45:49 pm
I can't remember if it's been officially announced, but in addition to flag-bearers in commander battles, we now have one AI sergeant per regiment. There are also more regiments available to play in commander battle; choose your favourite civil war regiment and lead them to victory or death! This game mode is now even more open for some fantastic re-enactment possibilities, different events, and general fun.

Pictured: General's bodyguard unit in commander battle (complete with flag-bearer, signal operators, brigade general, and foreign observer)
(https://i.imgur.com/8EGyiCY.jpg)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Wigster600 on June 30, 2015, 02:50:15 pm
Give a command to get units to crouch or not.  :D
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Mercuri on June 30, 2015, 04:47:24 pm
I still think you must change that horse animation :S
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 30, 2015, 04:49:21 pm
I still think you must change that horse animation :S
Why...?  ???
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Hinkel on June 30, 2015, 04:57:00 pm
I still think you must change that horse animation :S

Like I said before, its a way more natural position to hold your sword and pistol. You dont put your arm to the ground, you hold the sword and revolver up.

Spoiler
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/40/9d/ff/409dffc078179fd3d8e52cafbabf5253.jpg)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secondcavalry.org%2Fimages%2FYNP08%2520Gentleman%2520Ranker%2520%2829%29.jpg&hash=623156cd7868f173d2e480a6e4f64e488eac8054)
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Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 30, 2015, 04:58:44 pm
I agree with you there Hinkel. I also personally love that animation  :)
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: ThePatriot98 on June 30, 2015, 05:02:31 pm
Imagine if you would hold down the revolver or the musket/rifle, maybe its minie ball would even jump out of the barrel lel and then when you'd fire at the enemy, you'd only fire blank XD
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: SwissGronkh on June 30, 2015, 10:03:33 pm
Will we be able to play our "custom" (like 3rd New Jersey Cavalry) regiments in Commander Battle?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 30, 2015, 10:06:38 pm
Will we be able to play our "custom" (like 3rd New Jersey Cavalry) regiments in Commander Battle?


All the "unique" regiments will be publicly available through the commander battle mode only. To play as these regiments in any other game mode you need to be a member of that regiment and have them unlocked.

Think of it as advertisement for your special skins ^^
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on June 30, 2015, 10:25:06 pm
Will we be able to play our "custom" (like 3rd New Jersey Cavalry) regiments in Commander Battle?


All the "unique" regiments will be publicly available through the commander battle mode only. To play as these regiments in any other game mode you need to be a member of that regiment and have them unlocked.

Think of it as advertisement for your special skins ^^
People who are not in regiments with unique skins still get their hands on the unique uniforms. I think this deserves a temp ban. Or atleast some kind of punishment.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 30, 2015, 10:40:58 pm
uniforms. I think this deserves a temp ban. Or atleast some kind of punishment.

Thanks to Wüstenkrieger we now have a special way, so it's not possible to unlock these regiments yourself. The commander battle AI versions of the special regiments are separate from the ones people play in other game modes.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: NickyJ on June 30, 2015, 10:58:28 pm
So how exactly would one unlock a skin, especially for a whole regiment?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on June 30, 2015, 11:00:31 pm
uniforms. I think this deserves a temp ban. Or atleast some kind of punishment.

Thanks to Wüstenkrieger we now have a special way, so it's not possible to unlock these regiments yourself. The commander battle AI versions of the special regiments are separate from the ones people play in other game modes.

What is this special way? How does it work? Being one of the CO's in a regiment that uses custom skins, I'd like to know how the authorization of use works, along with the deauthorization for members who are inactive/leave.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on June 30, 2015, 11:18:58 pm
Special way is a bit overrated, we thought about a very complicated way, but time was a problem, so the whole thing is now more secure than before, but you still cant take away the special units from leaving people.
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Jonny Powers on June 30, 2015, 11:38:51 pm
Special way is a bit overrated, we thought about a very complicated way, but time was a problem, so the whole thing is now more secure than before, but you still cant take away the special units from leaving people.

Could you explain how it all works or is it still top secret? ;D
Also a shame you can't take the units from people who leave, might open up an issue of people joining a regiment for the skins.

Also, what will happen to the unique skins if a regiment dies or disbands?
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on June 30, 2015, 11:58:44 pm
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24713.0
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Lilja Mariasdóttir on July 01, 2015, 12:01:46 am
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24713.0
Very suspicious  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Malkolm R. Lind on July 01, 2015, 12:04:35 am
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24713.0
Very suspicious  :o
Hmm... It's either the map contest results or the 1.0 release.  :o
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Parrot on July 01, 2015, 12:05:56 am
you can now reply to that strange thread that I totally did not post....
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: Captain America on July 01, 2015, 06:25:16 pm
No...

It...cannot be...
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: KillerShark on July 01, 2015, 10:56:12 pm
"In progress"
Title: Re: North and South - First Manassas 1.0 [in progress]
Post by: AeroNinja on July 01, 2015, 10:56:44 pm
Cheeky shark