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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => Topic started by: KArantukki on October 29, 2013, 06:31:32 pm

Title: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: KArantukki on October 29, 2013, 06:31:32 pm
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What is this mod about?

This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648). During this time many nations
fought each other, they fought for their religion, for power and some fought for independence.
It was a brutal time, in some parts of central europe about 20-50% of the people died by battles,
raids and diseases.

However, I'm not going focusing on the war in Germany, the mod will include other wars and theaters too,
 for example the Eighty Years' War, the Swedish-Polish wars and the wars between Spain and France (1635–1659).

               
Features
                               

- New Nations: In the first release it will be Kingdom of Sweden and Empire of Habsburg (Austria & Spain)
- New Units (Musketeers, Pikeman, cuirassiers, ...)
- A big variety of uniforms for the units.
- New Maps
- New banners, loadingscreens, music, ...
- New system for firearms (you can use a unipod/musketfork)



Nations & Units



(https://www7.pic-upload.de/03.11.13/68bc7b6ikg1.png)
                                                                                                                                                                                   

Habsburger Reich
(Austrian Empire with some Spanish troops)


Regiment 'Abensberg und Traun-Meissau' (German Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.05.14%2Fybhq7xfpxnd6.jpg&hash=7b15a1b69dea3c21277d61e668013993b6b43885)
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Regiment 'Comargo' (German Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.05.14%2F4fy457qmy26.jpg&hash=0af30a1838cd400d18f948384795f2376374a781)
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Tercio Español (Spanish Infantry )
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
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Bewaffnete Bürger (Militia)
- Ranker
- Armed Peasants



Kroatische Reiterei (Slavic Light Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Lancer
- Officer


Pappenheimer Kürassiere (German Heavy Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Berittene Arkebusiere (German Medium Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/x7u5lgmvhwok.jpg)
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Artillerie Regiment (Artillery)
- Ranker
- Officer

Ingenieur (Sapper)

Albrecht von Wallenstein (Commander)


               
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/03.11.13/chzg43mv5eiw.png)
                       
Konungariket Sverige
(The kingdom of Sweden)

Gula brigaden (The Yellow Brigade)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.05.14%2Fw47by6tv2e7r.jpg&hash=de6fb8da355e66151ab029d84cfb511141531c19)
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Blåa brigaden (The Blue Brigade)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
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Donald Mackay's Regiment (Scottish Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Swordsman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.05.14%2Fvd9ryeemhyly.jpg&hash=90d3e0da04cd389334d116f2a11eca6b32a9cb9b)
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Regiment 'Bernhard von Weimar' (German Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.05.14%2Fkd9rlkq8iyk.jpg&hash=9d277f6d0292aeeb5311657071702dc9dc024da2)
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Smålands Kavalleriregementet (Swedish Heavy Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Hakkapeliitta (Finnish Medium Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Scottish mercenary Cavalry (Scottish Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Lancer
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Lancers and Officer
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/4q6oe6wl6q1r.jpg)
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Artilleri regemente (Artillery)
- Ranker
- Officer

ingenjörssoldat (Sapper)

Gustav II. Adolf (Commander)




Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTVgxaW8FY&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QWh1RzSn4&feature=youtu.be



Screenshots:

New cannon model
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New artillery crosshair
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/02.11.13/auw8o6r4wrhd.jpg)
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New cavalry animation
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/17.11.13/hgh3uad3l2cd.jpg)
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A  new shootingsystem
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598161395650661506%2F406B5F430BB9578BD878EB173DF65C20BC8A2484%2F&hash=17ff8f2c73d12688c4d7eef698db4b4430b6546b)
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New scene props and map
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/17.11.13/u9nf35h2ghlh.jpg)
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Melee combat
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598163381312592796%2FA635972141F52308FE8B0086CB1DE2D37F2FE2C7%2F&hash=cbb51ef2e27df952a4b345b79fdeb414df64ada1)
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How can you help the mod?

- It take a lot of time to model/texture all the stuff, so if you have moddeling/texturing skills and whant to help send me a pm.
- Post pictures of Units, Weapons and Battles of this time.
- If you have an idea for a unit, feel free to post something about this unit in this thread.
- You are swedish or spanish and you have a good microphone? Become a voiceactor for the new units.
- Wear the mod signatures.
- Join the steamgroup

Signatures:

Century of War
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Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]http://www11.pic-upload.de/24.05.14/ygeogqzo4ai3.png[/img][/url]   
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Century of War
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/06.05.14/ozx4empur6ew.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/06.05.14/ozx4empur6ew.png[/img][/url]   
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King Gustav II. Adolf
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/mtp8v532ebm.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/mtp8v532ebm.png[/img][/url]   
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Habsburg
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/10.11.13/8j2mqyh3zjk8.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/10.11.13/8j2mqyh3zjk8.png[/img][/url]   
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Kingdom of Sweden
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/khovkahfewwx.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/khovkahfewwx.png[/img][/url]   
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Tercio and Cavalry
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/fr8g9bqtjuqq.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/fr8g9bqtjuqq.png[/img][/url]   
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Two Riders of the Thirty Years' War
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/y9qwv6fu6yx5.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/y9qwv6fu6yx5.png[/img][/url]   
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Kingdom of Spain
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/31.10.13/bqd9jm5ufl12.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/31.10.13/bqd9jm5ufl12.png[/img][/url]   
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Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/31.10.13/dxk7mgqfrb.png)
Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]https://www7.pic-upload.de/31.10.13/dxk7mgqfrb.png[/img][/url]   
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Dutch Republic
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Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]http://www11.pic-upload.de/10.05.14/gly5a1hlk8is.png[/img][/url]
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France
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Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img]http://www11.pic-upload.de/11.05.14/zclzxg3849p.png[/img][/url]
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Made by Colonel Howe
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Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img width=500 height=230]http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/f4b0ef8edf63ff05f8cf3bc6fbcf8db9.jpg[/img][/url]
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Made by Archduke_Sven
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Code
[url=https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg358284#msg358284][img width=500 height=230]http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t579/ArchdukeSven/rocroi2_zpsf24a80dc.jpg[/img][/url]
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Made by LOL
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Code
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The Century of War DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ktx3sw6dxhn36j/CoW+Beta.exe)

Server-Files DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/l4xq71sq4g89o3t/Century+of+War+-+Server+files.rar)

List of Maps

  "mp_arabian_harbour"=  "Battle of Lutzen (Morning)"
  "mp_arabian_harbour_night"= "Battle of Lutzen(Day)"
  "mp_arabian_village"=  "Rivercrossing"
  "mp_arabian_village_conq"=  "Arabian Village (Day)"
  "mp_arabian_village_conq_morning"=  "Arabian Village (Morning)"
  "mp_ardennes"=  "Bohemian Town (Day)"),
  "mp_ardennes_morning"=  "Bohemian Town (Morning)"
  "mp_avignon"=  "Prussian Village (Day)"),
  "mp_avignon_morning"=  "Prussian Village (Cloudy)"
  "mp_bavarian_river"=  "Dinkelsbuhl (Day)"
  "mp_beach_morning"=  "Farmland (Evening)"
  "mp_borodino"=  "Moravia (Day)"
  "mp_borodino_morn"=  "Moravia (Morning)"
  "mp_champs_elysees"=  "Frisian Church (Day)"
  "mp_champs_elysees_rain"=  "Frisian Church (Evening)"
  "mp_columbia_hill_farm"=  "Thuringian Fort (Day)"
  "mp_columbia_farm_morning"=  "Thuringian Fort (Morning)"
  "mp_countryside"=  "The Forest (Morning)"
  "mp_dust"= "Snowy Road (Morning)"
  "mp_european_city_summer"=  "The Lake (Day)"
  "mp_european_city_winter"=  "The Lake (Morning)"
  "mp_floodplain_storm"=  "In the woods"
  "mp_fort_beaver"= "Monastery  (Day)"
  "mp_fort_beaver_morning"= "Monastery (Morning)
  "mp_french_farm"= "Battle of Noerdlingen (Day)"
  "mp_french_farm_storm"= "Battle of Noerdlingen (Morning)"
  "mp_german_village"= "The Hill (Day)"
  "mp_german_village_rain"= "The Hill (Storm)"
  "mp_hougoumont"= "The Camp (Day)"
  "mp_hougoumont_night"= "The Camp (Cloudy)"
  "mp_hungarian_plains"= "Bavarian Villages (Day)"
  "mp_hungarian_plains_cloud"= "Bavarian Villages (Cloudy)"
  "mp_theisland"= "Village on the Hill (Day)"
  "mp_la_haye_sainte"= "German Town (Winter/Day)"
  "mp_la_haye_sainte_night"= "German Town (Winter/Night)"
  "mp_landshut"= "German Town (Summer/Day)"
  "mp_landshut_night"= "German Town (Summer/Evening)"

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Team:             
- KArantukki (Leader, Modeler, Mapper, Design, Animations)
- Noel (Coding)
- Friedrich (Modeler, Mapping)
- Volumed (Modeler, Rigging)
- Gronzni (Coding)

                                                                                       
Supporters:

- Frederik
- McConner
- Feldsau
- DanyEle


                                                                                       
Credits:
- WfaS team for their sceneprops and models
- William/Wilhelm for his English Civil War mod files
- Furrnox for the swedish voices
- Yebenoso for spanish voices
- OSP Highlanders models by Yamabusi
- OSP Flintlock Firearms by Llew
- Calradia in Darkness for some textures
- 1429 La Guerre de Cent Ans Enhanced for some textures and scene props
- Shredzorz for his OSP pack
- Olafson for awesome plant props
- ShaunRemo Outer Terrain pack

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Oldest_Guard on October 29, 2013, 06:37:06 pm
Good luck! Good work on the current models (They are your own, no?)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 29, 2013, 06:37:30 pm
Intradesting.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wolff on October 29, 2013, 06:38:17 pm
yery nice, tukki. Viel Glück!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 29, 2013, 06:39:19 pm
Good luck! Good work on the current models (They are your own, no?)

Yeah, its hard to belive with all this mods wich have stolen uniforms. xD

All the uniforms you can see (except the highlander) are made by me.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 29, 2013, 06:40:19 pm
AWESOME!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TheBoberton on October 29, 2013, 06:44:15 pm
Ooh.

The 1600s are such an interesting period of time for warfare.

Good luck!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: MagicTeatowel on October 29, 2013, 06:44:33 pm
lel forget mine. haha

Best of Luck :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Hammerstout on October 29, 2013, 06:48:11 pm
Finally a new mod that will actually get finished best of luck to you.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 29, 2013, 06:50:21 pm
Finally we see a public announcement of the mod. You can furtherly count on my help ;)
However good luck to this ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jelly on October 29, 2013, 06:53:25 pm
Good luck with this mod, you have my support!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: 85thColonel on October 29, 2013, 07:55:38 pm
cant wait keep up the work!!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 29, 2013, 07:59:20 pm
This amazed me, thank you for making this mod and I really hope it get's released!

Länge Leve Gustaf II Adolf! he was the one who made Sweden into a great power.

Make sure you give the Swedish dragoons the equipment they had, two pistols and a saber. So when they charged they used to fire off both pistols and then draw the saber.
The use off his cav made the Swedish army very effective because the Spanish would just form up big pike formations which were effective in a frontal attack but it made them hard to manouver.
At one battle, Gustaf II Adolf took his cav around the enemy and capured the artillery. He had trained his cav to use arty so they started opeing fire on the enemy from behind. It would be very cool if you could implement these skills ingame!

Btw, the word "Brigad" means brigade and not regiment. Regemente is the word for regiment.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 29, 2013, 08:00:44 pm
I've been waiting and it's finally come true. If you'd like some signatures. Feel free to contact me :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 29, 2013, 08:18:19 pm
Ooooo 30 years war. This'll be fun. So we get to see some Wheeling fire from Swedish Pistolero Dragoons?

Just make sure the accuracy and range of the firearms is complete shite.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 29, 2013, 09:03:05 pm
I think Oscar just wet himself like an exciting dog :p

Anyway it is cool that they had 2 pistols but I don't think it's a good idea for gameplay. All I see is people abusing the 2 pistols.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 29, 2013, 09:10:02 pm
Make sure you give the Swedish dragoons the equipment they had, two pistols and a saber. So when they charged they used to fire off both pistols and then draw the saber.
The use off his cav made the Swedish army very effective because the Spanish would just form up big pike formations which were effective in a frontal attack but it made them hard to manouver.
At one battle, Gustaf II Adolf took his cav around the enemy and capured the artillery. He had trained his cav to use arty so they started opeing fire on the enemy from behind. It would be very cool if you could implement these skills ingame!

Weren´t that Hakkapeliita and not Dragoons? Dragoons was mounted infantry, which dismounted to fight and fire...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 29, 2013, 09:10:26 pm
I think Oscar just wet himself like an exciting dog :p

Anyway it is cool that they had 2 pistols but I don't think it's a good idea for gameplay. All I see is people abusing the 2 pistols.

I will give the heavy cav one pistol.

here is a screenshot of some austrian infantry men:


(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/pp9cmo9hh328.jpg)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 29, 2013, 09:21:36 pm
I'm Spanish and i want the Spanish faction.... -.-
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 29, 2013, 09:24:18 pm
I recommend reading the first post. There is the Habsburg faction which includes Austrian and Spanish units ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 29, 2013, 09:40:07 pm
I'm Spanish and i want the Spanish faction.... -.-
Great argument, They must stop all proces and immediately start making and finishing THE SPANISH FACTION.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Furrnox on October 29, 2013, 09:42:54 pm
Awesome! Good luck <3
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Frederik on October 29, 2013, 09:43:59 pm
Good Luck :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 29, 2013, 09:49:22 pm
IMO the accuracy is fine. I mean, we use flintlocks in NW and they are waaay more accurate IRL.
Just look at this guy. He hits the target every time with no problem.

Spoiler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz56I4n9O4U[/youtube]
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And that's even a carbine.

Now, the earlier muskets were less accurate than the flintlocks and that's why I think the current ingame accuracy is bad enough.
But I don't know, I think the Swedes actually used flintlocks during this time anyways. The Swedes started using it at the start of the 17th century (1600).

I think misfires should be implemented tho. But it would be pretty rare.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 29, 2013, 09:51:57 pm
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...



The Spanish Empire in 1600:



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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jelly on October 29, 2013, 09:53:09 pm
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...
"Ruled the world", yet both France and England were both independent?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Albert Eisenberg on October 29, 2013, 09:53:49 pm
All the Germans viewing this thread! :) I am excited for this! :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on October 29, 2013, 09:59:36 pm
IMO the accuracy is fine. I mean, we use flintlocks in NW and they are waaay more accurate IRL.
Just look at this guy. He hits the target every time with no problem.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz56I4n9O4U[/youtube]
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And that's even a carbine.

Now, the earlier muskets were less accurate than the flintlocks and that's why I think the current ingame accuracy is bad enough.
But I don't know, I think the Swedes actually used flintlocks during this time anyways. The Swedes started using it at the start of the 17th century (1600).

I think misfires should be implemented tho. But it would be pretty rare.

This guy isn't shooting surrounded by 100 guys trying to keep formation shooting at humans with smoke all over the place and being shouted at and possibly being shot back at. That's generally where accuracy went out the window.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 29, 2013, 10:03:24 pm
IMO the accuracy is fine. I mean, we use flintlocks in NW and they are waaay more accurate IRL.
Just look at this guy. He hits the target every time with no problem.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz56I4n9O4U[/youtube]
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And that's even a carbine.

Now, the earlier muskets were less accurate than the flintlocks and that's why I think the current ingame accuracy is bad enough.
But I don't know, I think the Swedes actually used flintlocks during this time anyways. The Swedes started using it at the start of the 17th century (1600).

I think misfires should be implemented tho. But it would be pretty rare.

This guy isn't shooting surrounded by 100 guys trying to keep formation shooting at humans with smoke all over the place and being shouted at and possibly being shot back at. That's generally where accuracy went out the window.
Well, there isn't any system like that ingame.

Swedish soldiers and Gustaf II Adolf
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ueforum.se%2Fimages%2Fessaer%2F11essa%2Farmemuseum03.jpg&hash=97d1f2c4e43bbf53f30ec452249e2f8da6abf48d)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fc2%2FGustavus_Adolphus_at_the_Battle_at_Breitenfeld.jpg&hash=b34037b690f56e605be8bddfeb54de0ef607672a)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 29, 2013, 10:06:37 pm
The Swedes weren't super soldiers. They could be broken like anyone else.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 29, 2013, 10:10:40 pm
IMO the accuracy is fine. I mean, we use flintlocks in NW and they are waaay more accurate IRL.
Just look at this guy. He hits the target every time with no problem.

Spoiler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz56I4n9O4U[/youtube]
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And that's even a carbine.

Now, the earlier muskets were less accurate than the flintlocks and that's why I think the current ingame accuracy is bad enough.
But I don't know, I think the Swedes actually used flintlocks during this time anyways. The Swedes started using it at the start of the 17th century (1600).

I think misfires should be implemented tho. But it would be pretty rare.

I doubt that the swedish used flintlocks in the early 17th century. Do you have any source for that?
However the musket have been very inaccurate in those days and it would be the best thing for the gameplay if the muskets would be very inaccurate...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 29, 2013, 10:17:06 pm
The Swedes weren't super soldiers. They could be broken like anyone else.
Did I state the opposite?

some more pics
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laholm.se%2FImageVault%2FImages%2Fstorage_Edited%2Ffilename_9zRSrjtR5-LAoQrT3bzt.jpg%2Fid_6225%2Fscope_0%2FImageVaultHandler.aspx&hash=3b46daf7cfc7647d5709734e8fe511d4c16d8874)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi9.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa89%2FCaptain_Gars1632%2FJunkelmann_krassierb-1.jpg&hash=c17ac22fa81176438e9e226572253f9cbaa0a600)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi269.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj72%2FKapten_Gars%2FSalvo2.jpg&hash=5faaf0d911d58ac5dff628fb31e0b828f6ef7bae)
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Lion of the North
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F4%2F45%2FStrasbourg_walter_gustave_adolphe.JPG%2F640px-Strasbourg_walter_gustave_adolphe.JPG&hash=eded09263fa6c236754c337c419a347ad80f3495)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomdahlstedt.se%2FGustav_%2520II_Adolf.jpg&hash=12a1aa0e588dcf1cac9e3fffafafc1ed3e23c4cd)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 29, 2013, 10:18:20 pm
IMO the accuracy is fine. I mean, we use flintlocks in NW and they are waaay more accurate IRL.
Just look at this guy. He hits the target every time with no problem.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz56I4n9O4U[/youtube]
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And that's even a carbine.

Now, the earlier muskets were less accurate than the flintlocks and that's why I think the current ingame accuracy is bad enough.
But I don't know, I think the Swedes actually used flintlocks during this time anyways. The Swedes started using it at the start of the 17th century (1600).

I think misfires should be implemented tho. But it would be pretty rare.

I doubt that the swedish used flintlocks in the early 17th century. Do you have any source for that?
However the musket have been very inaccurate in those days and it would be the best thing for the gameplay if the muskets would be very inaccurate...
They kinda already are though. I don't want to see point blanking the only effektive way of using muskets in this mod.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on October 29, 2013, 10:41:57 pm
Firelocks were the early flintlocks, they were used generally by cavalry and artillery guards and people on watch because unlike the matchlock they could be fired immediately.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 29, 2013, 11:07:51 pm
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...



The Spanish Empire in 1600:



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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmurciano%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbe%2FIMPERIO_ESPA%25C3%2591OL_%25282%2529.png&hash=7931a02f75fd338661226b4a6df49d8a3a316f70)
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HAHAHA please, we don't need another nationalist that keeps parading how great his nation is.

Here's your true spanish empire from 1580-1640

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_Y9-xi5n9m3E%2FTPco9mlLoxI%2FAAAAAAAAHms%2F8ZlEbcDFZEo%2Fs1600%2FSpanish_Empire-World_Map.png&hash=5a5108fafb8383b5fc4d4b22337884579a895778)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Albert Eisenberg on October 29, 2013, 11:09:52 pm
Yeah... Spain definitely didn't control land in Brazil, Greece, and Saudi Arabia...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 29, 2013, 11:10:58 pm
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...



The Spanish Empire in 1600:



Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmurciano%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbe%2FIMPERIO_ESPA%25C3%2591OL_%25282%2529.png&hash=7931a02f75fd338661226b4a6df49d8a3a316f70)
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Er... that's a false picture... Brazil was Portuguese and Spain had no land in Greece...

Also, since when the hell was Spain in the Arabian Peninsula?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 29, 2013, 11:12:18 pm
Spoiler
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...



The Spanish Empire in 1600:



Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmurciano%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbe%2FIMPERIO_ESPA%25C3%2591OL_%25282%2529.png&hash=7931a02f75fd338661226b4a6df49d8a3a316f70)
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Er... that's a false picture... Brazil was Portuguese and Spain had no land in Greece...

Also, since when the hell was Spain in the Arabian Peninsula?
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It's his own empire in EU4 ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Albert Eisenberg on October 29, 2013, 11:29:03 pm
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...



The Spanish Empire in 1600:



Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmurciano%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbe%2FIMPERIO_ESPA%25C3%2591OL_%25282%2529.png&hash=7931a02f75fd338661226b4a6df49d8a3a316f70)
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Er... that's a false picture... Brazil was Portuguese and Spain had no land in Greece...

Also, since when the hell was Spain in the Arabian Peninsula?
I just said exactly that! ;D

Yeah... Spain definitely didn't control land in Brazil, Greece, and Saudi Arabia...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 29, 2013, 11:31:02 pm
This is amazing, at that time Spain ruled the world, and even then you do them. At that time the Holy Roman Empire was not Spain, amazing ...



The Spanish Empire in 1600:



Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmurciano%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbe%2FIMPERIO_ESPA%25C3%2591OL_%25282%2529.png&hash=7931a02f75fd338661226b4a6df49d8a3a316f70)
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Er... that's a false picture... Brazil was Portuguese and Spain had no land in Greece...

Also, since when the hell was Spain in the Arabian Peninsula?
I just said exactly that! ;D

Yeah... Spain definitely didn't control land in Brazil, Greece, and Saudi Arabia...

Gah, you posted 1 second before I did.

Also that's Oman, not Saudi Arabia.

And Spain was NEVER in Somalia, or the East Coast of Africa. Or mainland Indochina.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 29, 2013, 11:43:38 pm
Weep! I was before all of you.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 29, 2013, 11:47:19 pm
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is winning the poll!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 29, 2013, 11:48:54 pm
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is winning the poll!

HA HA! WOOO!

Poland's my favorite European nation next to the UK and the Netherlands so I like dis
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 29, 2013, 11:51:18 pm
 :)

Thanks from Poland!  ;)

If they are going to do Poland then they should use resources from WFaS. I love the rag-dolls in that game!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Albert Eisenberg on October 30, 2013, 12:02:37 am
Using things from other games would be copyright infringement so they can't use anything from WFaS.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 30, 2013, 12:18:40 am
Maybe you could borrow some stuff from the Deluge mod. It was a really cool mod. I just never experienced anyonne playing it.
The face creator from that mod was really good aswell!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 30, 2013, 12:20:01 am
Poland will into mod
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdoodles.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fd2%2FEqZ1lhByk%2FEiDEL9xZk.png&hash=58d9123fd6fe1e077e952c3108c6457d0a9171b1)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 30, 2013, 12:22:19 am

Spoiler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REk0ZgfgY1k[/youtube]
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Also, please add a blunderbuss! Just like the one from the Deluge and OMG, please add grenades!!!!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 30, 2013, 12:24:00 am
Do we get to see the Ottomans in a later release? That'd just be aweeeeesome.

EDIT: The reason I love learning about this war, it turned Europe into this

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fd0%2FEurope_map_1648.PNG%2F800px-Europe_map_1648.PNG&hash=80d063390866f19310ecf0ea8d938d6018853a2e)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 30, 2013, 12:26:35 am
Tbh I don't really like how you are putting up a poll on what other factions you want.
I really want this to be released and therefore you should focus on the factions you currently have.
It looks really good so far :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 30, 2013, 12:32:13 am
Maybe you could borrow some stuff from the Deluge mod. It was a really cool mod. I just never experienced anyonne playing it.
The face creator from that mod was really good aswell!

Deluge is the best Warband Mod imo ;) It´s a pitty that you never played it in an event. They were awesome, we did those Tercio warfare events which are very cool and are simply that, what this mod aims for...
However afaik the modders of Deluge aren´t active anymore so it´s very hard to get in touch with them...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on October 30, 2013, 12:39:10 am
With their level of professionalism i don't think they'd want to share things either unfortunately.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: kpetschulat on October 30, 2013, 12:42:47 am
Polanz-Litwania pl0x. k thx
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Paul on October 30, 2013, 06:05:56 am
Those are some very nice models. I cant wait.
I've always loved The Deluge, except from the fact that it's dead. Lets hope this is just as good (but people play it).

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Harybo on October 30, 2013, 11:27:23 am
There is this half-finished looking 30 year war mod for Wfas, maybe you can use something from there
http://www.moddb.com/mods/thirty-year-conflict (http://www.moddb.com/mods/thirty-year-conflict)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 05:14:09 pm
Si me lo permitís, hablaré en español, Portugal era española hasta 1640, así que informaros de mi GRAN NACIÓN, antes de hablar, fue española, incluida sus posesiones por toda África, sus islas por el mar, y Brasil...

Por favor, informaros antes de hablar.... -.-

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_bajo_la_Casa_de_Austria
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wolff on October 30, 2013, 05:16:57 pm
me gusta espanol.....wait.....no, you re not allowed to speak spanish   ;)
just stop that stupid nationalism - you seem to get worser than that weird serbian guy... ::)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 05:22:30 pm
me gusta espanol.....wait.....no, you re not allowed to speak spanish   ;)
just stop that stupid nationalism - you seem to get worser than that weird serbian guy... ::)
¿Nacionalismo? A que viene esa estupidez, usted quiere también su país en el mod, cállate pues...

Yo solo digo lo que creo que es correcto, y gracias al equipo del mod por añadir España a la propuesta.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 30, 2013, 05:59:44 pm
This is an English thread!!!!!!

 :)


Anyone like my new Profile Picture?

:)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 30, 2013, 06:01:08 pm
This is an English thread!!!!!!

 :)


Anyone like my new Profile Picture?

:)
you're the master of off-topic
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 30, 2013, 06:01:33 pm
Hell yeah!  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 30, 2013, 06:23:26 pm
Oh shit. This is what I've been waiting for! Good luck
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: DanyEle on October 30, 2013, 06:35:09 pm
Good luck to Karantukki, may you keep working on Iron Europe too  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 30, 2013, 06:38:31 pm
Good luck to Karantukki, may you keep working on Iron Europe too  ;D

Not as active as i was before i started the mod, but i will still work for iron europe ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 07:16:14 pm
Gracias a mi, España está consiguiendo muchos votos. :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Betaknight on October 30, 2013, 07:32:06 pm
Good luck to Karantukki, may you keep working on Iron Europe too  ;D

Not as active as i was before i started the mod, but i will still work for iron europe ;)
You better or you get kicked out
Spoiler
Joking
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 30, 2013, 08:03:25 pm
The damn Spanish are winning the poll!  >:(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 30, 2013, 08:03:59 pm
@ Jak, you dont need to ask people to register in the FSE forum just because you want to win the poll with your spanish faction, its just a poll where I can see what the common players want to see. So if you and all your spanish friends (I saw one just joined today) vote for spain the poll is not representative and finally its my decision what faction I will add.

All your nationalism and "Montenegro syndrome" doesnt help me.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 30, 2013, 08:06:43 pm
@ Jak, you dont need to ask people to register in the FSE forum just because you want to win the poll with your spanish faction, its just a poll where I can see what the common players want to see. So if you and all your spanish friends (I saw one just joined today) vote for spain the poll is not representative and finally its my decision what faction I will add.

All your nationalism and "Montenegro syndrome" doesnt help me.

I realized that it went up fast over the last two days.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 08:10:22 pm
@ Jak, you dont need to ask people to register in the FSE forum just because you want to win the poll with your spanish faction, its just a poll where I can see what the common players want to see. So if you and all your spanish friends (I saw one just joined today) vote for spain the poll is not representative and finally its my decision what faction I will add.

All your nationalism and "Montenegro syndrome" doesnt help me.
Sir, they aren't ordinary people, with people of my clan, my clan is the 2aBH, which is a huge clan, and might make a clan for this awesome mod, really, are people of my clan and all have the warband, and by the way, if Spain wins, I'd be your historical advisor to the faction of Spain ... here is my community web: http://www.comunidadgamerhispana.es/

you should rejoice, thanks to me, entire warband community of Spain knows this mod
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 30, 2013, 08:14:21 pm
Thanks for your sympathy.

Well I want to add more spanish units to the actual habsburg faction for the first release, so why dont you help me find some more spanish units?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 08:17:01 pm
Thanks for your sympathy.

Well I want to add more spanish units to the actual habsburg faction for the first release, so why dont you help me find some more spanish units?
Sure! Add me to steam and i tell you Spanish units, and its history and clothing.

My Steam is: [2aBH] Jak
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 30, 2013, 08:17:05 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 08:19:23 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction. One question I have is what period of the war is this going to be set in? If you decide to add France are you going to take into consideration the fact that they switched sides midway through the war?
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648), and no, Spain is Spain, and the holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire...

Why?
Because Due to problems with the Germans king carlos had to give the Holy Empire to his brother ... And Spain and the Holy Roman Empire were Allies to 1700
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 30, 2013, 08:21:28 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction. One question I have is what period of the war is this going to be set in? If you decide to add France are you going to take into consideration the fact that they switched sides midway through the war?
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648)

I know that, it says that on the front page. I was asking for clarification because I'd like to know how he'll represent the ever-shifting political situation in the period.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: EdwardC on October 30, 2013, 08:30:42 pm
So many mods have failed, for NW, I hope this doesn't, anyways good luck!  ::)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 08:34:45 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction. One question I have is what period of the war is this going to be set in? If you decide to add France are you going to take into consideration the fact that they switched sides midway through the war?
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648)

I know that, it says that on the front page. I was asking for clarification because I'd like to know how he'll represent the ever-shifting political situation in the period.
i edited my post, please read it.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 30, 2013, 08:43:17 pm
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and no, Spain is Spain, and the holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire...

Why?
Because Due to problems with the Germans king carlos had to give the Holy Empire to his brother ... And Spain and the Holy Roman Empire were Allies to 1700

I'm aware of that. The fact that they were allied and had close family ties is precisely the reason why I believe they should remain as the same faction. Anyway, it's neither of our decisions in the end.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 30, 2013, 08:46:16 pm
Some more uniforms for the german infantry:

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/30.10.13/waltjfk777h.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: William on October 30, 2013, 08:49:11 pm
Looks good, will make sure to be keep up with this mod  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 08:52:29 pm
Quote
and no, Spain is Spain, and the holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire...

Why?
Because Due to problems with the Germans king carlos had to give the Holy Empire to his brother ... And Spain and the Holy Roman Empire were Allies to 1700

I'm aware of that. The fact that they were allied and had close family ties is precisely the reason why I believe they should remain as the same faction. Anyway, it's neither of our decisions in the end.
No, because for example, there are wars in which Spain participated and the Holy Roman Empire no, they had different clothes, and many more things that can happen to me ... If the mod were about 100 years earlier if they could go together, but in this, NO.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 30, 2013, 08:52:56 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction. One question I have is what period of the war is this going to be set in? If you decide to add France are you going to take into consideration the fact that they switched sides midway through the war?
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648), and no, Spain is Spain, and the holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire...

Why?
Because Due to problems with the Germans king carlos had to give the Holy Empire to his brother, and all Spanish possessions to his other brother, so it was divided ... And Spain and the Holy Roman Empire were Allies to 1700

Well, shall I really take my time to explain you the HRE and the dynastic connection between Spain and Austria? Well let me put it in this way: It´s fine like it is atm, because there is no actual need for seperating Spain from the Emperor, particular because the amount of possible factions is limited to 5. That´d be a waste of space to implement some other interesting factions like France or Poland. In those days it was more important both thrones (the spanish and the imperial) were held by the Habsburger than the actual designation of the name of a country or even the nationality. And the HRE and Spain weren´t allied, you can´t imagine the HRE like a modern state which concludes alliances or declares wars, that simply doesn´t work.
And there is another reason to unite Austria and Spain in one faction. In several wars (not only in the 30-years) both houses send troops into battle to fought together or send troops to support each other (for example Spinola during the first period of the war in Palatine).

btw: @KArantukki: Very nice uniforms ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 09:04:55 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction. One question I have is what period of the war is this going to be set in? If you decide to add France are you going to take into consideration the fact that they switched sides midway through the war?
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648), and no, Spain is Spain, and the holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire...

Why?
Because Due to problems with the Germans king carlos had to give the Holy Empire to his brother, and all Spanish possessions to his other brother, so it was divided ... And Spain and the Holy Roman Empire were Allies to 1700

Well, shall I really take my time to explain you the HRE and the dynastic connection between Spain and Austria? Well let me put it in this way: It´s fine like it is atm, because there is no actual need for seperating Spain from the Emperor, particular because the amount of possible factions is limited to 5. That´d be a waste of space to implement some other interesting factions like France or Poland. In those days it was more important both thrones (the spanish and the imperial) were held by the Habsburger than the actual designation of the name of a country or even the nationality. And the HRE and Spain weren´t allied, you can´t imagine the HRE like a modern state which concludes alliances or declares wars, that simply doesn´t work.
And there is another reason to unite Austria and Spain in one faction. In several wars (not only in the 30-years) both houses send troops into battle to fought together or send troops to support each other (for example Spinola during the first period of the war in Palatine).

btw: @KArantukki: Very nice uniforms ;)
No, this mod is about the war of the 30 years, And Poland did almost nothing, in my opinion at the mod should be these factions: Spain, France, England, the Holy Roman Empire and Sweden ....

it's putting on as mod s XVIII Spain and France in the same ... (exemple)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 30, 2013, 09:07:22 pm
Quote
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648). During this time many nations
fought each other, they fought for their religion, for power and some fought for independence.
It was a brutal time, in some parts of central europe about 20-50% of the people died by battles,
raids and diseases.

However, I'm not going focusing on the war in Germany, the mod will include other wars and theaters too,
 for example the Eighty Years' War, the Swedish-Polish wars and the wars between Spain and France (1635–1659).
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 09:10:15 pm
Ok, then, I think it should be these factions:
Sweden, Polish-Lituanian, Spain and France...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Albert Eisenberg on October 30, 2013, 09:13:45 pm
Ok, then, I think it should be these factions:
Sweden, Polish-Lituanian, Spain and France...
And just take out Germany???
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jak on October 30, 2013, 09:21:47 pm
Ok, then, I think it should be these factions:
Sweden, Polish-Lituanian, Spain and France...
And just take out Germany???
Prussia and austria is in the Holy Roman empire.... ._.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: DanyEle on October 30, 2013, 09:27:03 pm
There needs to be another Protestant faction, so I'd say the Protestant Union or the Dutch Republic, who both played a huge role in the war. Spain doesn't need its own faction; I think they're fine being merged into a general Habsburg faction. One question I have is what period of the war is this going to be set in? If you decide to add France are you going to take into consideration the fact that they switched sides midway through the war?
This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648), and no, Spain is Spain, and the holy Roman Empire is the Holy Roman Empire...

Why?
Because Due to problems with the Germans king carlos had to give the Holy Empire to his brother, and all Spanish possessions to his other brother, so it was divided ... And Spain and the Holy Roman Empire were Allies to 1700

Well, shall I really take my time to explain you the HRE and the dynastic connection between Spain and Austria? Well let me put it in this way: It´s fine like it is atm, because there is no actual need for seperating Spain from the Emperor, particular because the amount of possible factions is limited to 5. That´d be a waste of space to implement some other interesting factions like France or Poland. In those days it was more important both thrones (the spanish and the imperial) were held by the Habsburger than the actual designation of the name of a country or even the nationality. And the HRE and Spain weren´t allied, you can´t imagine the HRE like a modern state which concludes alliances or declares wars, that simply doesn´t work.
And there is another reason to unite Austria and Spain in one faction. In several wars (not only in the 30-years) both houses send troops into battle to fought together or send troops to support each other (for example Spinola during the first period of the war in Palatine).

btw: @KArantukki: Very nice uniforms ;)

That amount of factions is breakable, with enough coding  8) .

Ok, then, I think it should be these factions:
Sweden, Polish-Lituanian, Spain and France...
And just take out Germany???

There was no Unified Germany at that time. It was divided among a countless amount of states which formed the Holy Roman Empire.

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 30, 2013, 09:58:59 pm
Pschhhhhh, nobody knows that we know how to add nations to NW. :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 30, 2013, 10:00:57 pm
No spain! They have their siesta and they should be fine!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: kpetschulat on October 30, 2013, 10:02:47 pm
No spain! They have their siesta and they should be fine!

Oscar just pwnt Spain, totes. ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Sweeney on October 30, 2013, 10:12:03 pm
Why no Denmark in ze first release:O?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 30, 2013, 10:12:59 pm
I think the poll has been fondled with.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Van_Hulstein on October 30, 2013, 10:15:55 pm
>Creates 100 new FSE Accounts
>Votes 100× Dutch Republic
>Dutch Republic wins
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: William on October 30, 2013, 10:17:43 pm
Gotta go with Spain.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jelly on October 30, 2013, 10:22:01 pm
>Creates 100 new FSE Accounts
>Votes 100× Dutch RepublicSpain
>Dutch RepublicSpain wins
That or the Inquisition is doing it's job very well, and threatening people to vote for Spain...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 30, 2013, 10:24:19 pm
This mod has six factions. https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=4076.0

No Spain!

If the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth wins I could provide a helluvalota information.  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 30, 2013, 10:27:13 pm
Sorry for double post.

The count went up for Spain, 4 in the last hour.


Damn you Jak, damn you and your Spainiacs!

 >:( >:(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 31, 2013, 12:18:03 am
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 12:35:55 am
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!

We have The Deluge for that!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 31, 2013, 01:10:06 am
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!

We have The Deluge for that!
No one plays that!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 01:18:58 am
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!

We have The Deluge for that!
No one plays that!

Yeah they do. It's all Polacks though, and they refuse to speak English.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 31, 2013, 01:48:32 am
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!

We have The Deluge for that!
No one plays that!

Yeah they do. It's all Polacks though, and they refuse to speak English.
What!? Please give me more info on this. Would be really cool to play sometime!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 03:03:13 am
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!

We have The Deluge for that!
No one plays that!

Yeah they do. It's all Polacks though, and they refuse to speak English.
What!? Please give me more info on this. Would be really cool to play sometime!

Well that was actually partly from my ass, I haven't played in a few months, but they just fixed a bunch of things that were keeping a lot of clans from continuing, and people on the taleworlds subforum were sounding enthusiastic, so I'd assume there are more now.

There are typically a max of like 14 people in the servers (before the update, might be more now), but many of the maps are pretty small (and beautiful, they use that sexy graphics mod that Floris and 1257 A.D. uses) so it fits it well. That's around 6-9 pm Central European time, the NA community is nonexistent.

Anyway I'll stop hijacking the thread, I'm sure this isn't appreciated.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: EdwardC on October 31, 2013, 03:40:09 am
Anyone here who likes the  Thirty Years War, should watch The Last Valley (1970 film)  :), you might get some ideas.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Warwick_the_Kingmaker on October 31, 2013, 09:08:37 am
Bloody marvelous, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 31, 2013, 10:49:40 am
The Polish Winged Hussars were the best cavalry in the world! :)


Who won the poll?


It better not be Spain!

Spoiler
If it is damn you Jak and your Spainiacs.
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Emperor Napoleon on October 31, 2013, 11:00:29 am
Brilliant Idea! Best of luck with it
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 31, 2013, 12:38:44 pm
Nobody won the poll, all this "my country is the best and will win the poll" just ends in a flamewar. I want to finish tje first version with sweden and habsburg, and after this i will decide what nation i will add next.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: altarir on October 31, 2013, 01:33:14 pm
Thirty Years' War without Spain.......Ok
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pais-global.com.ar%2Fmapas%2Fimages%2Feuropaamediadosdelsigloxvii.jpg&hash=1f859c205d846dbde5ea5e74fca1a69a3d110de9)

Thirty Years' War was a religious war in German (Spain and Holy Roman Empire vs Protestants, France, etc.....), after Spain vs France
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 01:42:06 pm
Spain was never going to be gone from the mod. Stop trying to convince him to add it, because it's already in. It was planned to be part of the general Hapsburg faction which makes perfect sense considering the hapsburgs were in Spain, Germany, Italy, France, and The Netherlands.

I don't know if units from other countries in the Habsburg empire besides Austria and Spain will be included, but I think it would be cool to represent everyone.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on October 31, 2013, 01:55:33 pm
People! Vote for Poland! Remember the winged hussars!

We have The Deluge for that!
No one plays that!

There are still people playing The Deluge. Just like Nipplestockings said, try to connect to the servers around 6 or 7 gmt ;)


Thirty Years' War was a religious war in German (Spain and Holy Roman Empire vs Protestants, France, etc.....), after Spain vs France

So many wrong facts in one sentence :D It´s funny to see so many ppl discussing about a topic they actually know nothing about^^
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 31, 2013, 02:13:14 pm
Nobody won the poll, all this "my country is the best and will win the poll" just ends in a flamewar. I want to finish tje first version with sweden and habsburg, and after this i will decide what nation i will add next.

Alright :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on October 31, 2013, 02:46:20 pm
I thought you ment events and stuff.
Public play is meh.

Also, Van Hulstein just locked his mod thread after one day, GG.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Davout on October 31, 2013, 03:10:40 pm
Looks good. Lots of luck to you good sir.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Mercuri on October 31, 2013, 03:23:19 pm
seriously you do not want to add Spain? really is not Spain, the country that paid for this war to the Habsburg was Castile. I've studied this five days ago in the high school. If the spanish monarchy hadnt intervened paying the war with the Spanish population taxes, this war would havent been able to pay.

All the comanders, most of them are Spanish
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2Fff675d781291338a117676336fe58bbb.png&hash=63805719184e539ac896d3df4060bf21aa2dd088)



Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Alfred on October 31, 2013, 03:32:58 pm
there is already spanish units, why post even more about spain  :o
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 31, 2013, 03:35:55 pm
seriously you do not want to add Spain? really is not Spain, the country that paid for this war to the Habsburg was Castile. I've studied this five days ago in the high school. If the spanish monarchy hadnt intervened paying the war with the Spanish population taxes, this war would havent been able to pay.

All the comanders, most of them are Spanish
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2Fff675d781291338a117676336fe58bbb.png&hash=63805719184e539ac896d3df4060bf21aa2dd088)

Jeez! Shut up about Spain you Spainiac!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: altarir on October 31, 2013, 03:43:30 pm
Nobody won the poll, all this "my country is the best and will win the poll" just ends in a flamewar. I want to finish tje first version with sweden and habsburg, and after this i will decide what nation i will add next.

Spain wasn´t the best, but is very very important. This mod without Spain is like NW without France
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 03:50:15 pm
I thought you ment events and stuff.
Public play is meh.

Also, Van Hulstein just locked his mod thread after one day, GG.

Oh, there are events as well. Plenty of clans have started up again now that the mod is fixed. There are like 10 major clans right now, each with 15-50 people in them.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on October 31, 2013, 04:03:50 pm
Nobody won the poll, all this "my country is the best and will win the poll" just ends in a flamewar. I want to finish tje first version with sweden and habsburg, and after this i will decide what nation i will add next.

Spain wasn´t the best, but is very very important. This mod without Spain is like NW without France


Just shut up.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: kpetschulat on October 31, 2013, 04:14:22 pm
Nobody won the poll, all this "my country is the best and will win the poll" just ends in a flamewar. I want to finish tje first version with sweden and habsburg, and after this i will decide what nation i will add next.

Spain wasn´t the best, but is very very important. This mod without Spain is like NW without France


Just shut up.

Woah there, sailor.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 04:22:20 pm
Nobody won the poll, all this "my country is the best and will win the poll" just ends in a flamewar. I want to finish tje first version with sweden and habsburg, and after this i will decide what nation i will add next.

Spain wasn´t the best, but is very very important. This mod without Spain is like NW without France


Just shut up.

Poland will probably not get added as the next faction either.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Betaknight on October 31, 2013, 04:24:56 pm
Please don't start a war, let's just keep it friendly and on topic.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 31, 2013, 04:39:48 pm
Ok guys, lets make a deal. If you go ahead with telling me how awesome Spain was I will arrange that this country will never ever be added in the mod, and if you continue after this I will stop working on spanish units for the Habsburg faction too.

Spain wasn´t the best, but is very very important. This mod without Spain is like NW without France

No, it would be like NW without Spain, good as a 6th nation but not good enought for the main nation.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Gizmo on October 31, 2013, 04:42:52 pm
considering the hapsburgs were in Spain, Germany, Italy, France, and The Netherlands.

EXCUSE ME?

I hope by France you mean Lorraine and the old Burgundy.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Prince_Eugen on October 31, 2013, 04:53:00 pm
Lol 9 pages of countries debates xD
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: TORN on October 31, 2013, 04:57:05 pm
seriously you do not want to add Spain? really is not Spain, the country that paid for this war to the Habsburg was Castile. I've studied this five days ago in the high school. If the spanish monarchy hadnt intervened paying the war with the Spanish population taxes, this war would havent been able to pay.
lel we'll take your word for it because now you're a historian.
here are some crayons.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Prince_Eugen on October 31, 2013, 05:04:54 pm
Spoiler
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9yjmmAE3k[/youtube]
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: von_Bismarck on October 31, 2013, 05:14:50 pm
When will we get to see some armored units? Pikemen often used cuirasses, and sometimes additional armor for legs and hands. I'm particularly interested in this period of history not only by the Thirty Years War, but also for the thickness and rich decoration of plate armor (early 17th century, of course). I can't wait to see some cuirassiers in action. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on October 31, 2013, 05:39:50 pm
Some really skilled modellers said they want to help me, so it shouldnt take long time to finish some armored units. Meanwhile I will start moddeling on a new cannon model.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Jelly on October 31, 2013, 05:57:41 pm
So many Spaniards licking arse for Spain to be added...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2013, 06:01:48 pm
considering the hapsburgs were in Spain, Germany, Italy, France, and The Netherlands.

EXCUSE ME?

I hope by France you mean Lorraine and the old Burgundy.

That's exactly what I meant. I referred them as France for the same reason I referred to states in the Holy Roman Empire as Germany.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 31, 2013, 08:55:58 pm
anyone know any good 30 Years war movies? I'm assuming most are foreign so one with English subs plzplox
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Sweeney on November 01, 2013, 12:58:35 am
I do believe, if this mod was to be historically accurate and take on the full Thirty-years war, Denmark should be considered a great factor and maybe be in the first or second release. This is based on the fact that DK had the protestant leadership in the war.


I do know that Karantukki wrote "However, I'm not going focusing on the war in Germany, the mod will include other wars and theaters too,
 for example the Eighty Years' War, the Swedish-Polish wars and the wars between Spain and France (1635–1659)."

- I am merely reminding people...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on November 01, 2013, 03:06:56 am
From wiki:

"The Hakkapeliitta were well-trained Finnish light cavalrymen who excelled in sudden and savage attacks, raiding and reconnaissance. The greatest advantage of the fast and lightly armored Hakkapeliitta cavalry was its charge. They typically had a sword, a helmet, and leather armor or a breastplate of steel. They would attack at a full gallop, fire the first pistol at twenty paces and the second at five paces, and then draw the sword. The horse itself was used like another weapon, as it was used to trample enemy infantry."
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Miller on November 01, 2013, 03:29:07 am
nothing to contribute to the current conversation but good luck with this exciting mod  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on November 01, 2013, 10:32:46 am
Who wanted to see a soldier with bodyarmor?

Here is one of the first infantry uniforms with armor.

Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/01.11.13/tqzym5fxida7.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: #LionCarry on November 01, 2013, 10:43:34 am
This looks great! also the header of this mod looks fantastic. Good luck with the mod , Cheers Lion
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 01, 2013, 11:29:54 am
Awesome!!

I can't wait for this mod's release.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on November 01, 2013, 11:31:58 am
Some images.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.warlordgames.com%2Fstore%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F800x634%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2Fw%2Fg%2Fwgp-13-tyw-swedish-regt-a.jpg&hash=716cef64a7fb36b4c1703fcc2a4b37795df0e33b)
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.warlordgames.com%2Fstore%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F800x634%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2Fw%2Fg%2Fwgp-14-tyw-swedish-cav-a.jpg&hash=a6c07713b4287c57822ca78b73835cb907553ad0)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.warlordgames.com%2Fstore%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F800x634%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2Fw%2Fg%2Fwgp-15-harquebusiers-a.jpg&hash=ad9de278ac43ac198ddddeb9d2d2afaa827ee5a9)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 01, 2013, 11:34:28 am
Some images.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.warlordgames.com%2Fstore%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F800x634%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2Fw%2Fg%2Fwgp-17-winged-hussars-cover.jpg&hash=9972363060e269cbab7388aa2c0388706f4e3886)
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Hell yeah! :)

Here are some uniform pictures of the Polish.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgetasword.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2Fpolish-hussar-equipment.jpg&hash=713c29583a0141163431e4511364cc254b6a43be)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi23.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb356%2Fcegorach%2Fpolishlate.jpg&hash=29c49e51acee60f0bec16cb09582b4fd9a578cde)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-JzTQ1tk_TOI%2FTgK7XpLDpbI%2FAAAAAAAAB3o%2FzzR5vVz47u4%2Fs1600%2Fkaczor-szarza-husarii.jpg&hash=f07fccda655ca9184a0cc2526f35ff36616d88ef)

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2NcgmjNq_Tq9FuD6iW6hbAWbPRz5vkZpErBwawv0pmS6ttZm8pQ)

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVghtjLf1dVt0rIjqM3Q19ksG9bc8qYhpOPQCJetK0USQNO_Wm)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 01, 2013, 01:20:49 pm
Wow, since I started playing warband I was waiting for SUCH A MOD. Thank you, Tukki and the others.

PS: Unfortunately I can't go on with the nationalistic flamewar because Germany is already added. :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on November 01, 2013, 05:09:11 pm
New cannon model, what do you think about it ?

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 01, 2013, 05:16:31 pm
Sexy.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 01, 2013, 05:33:13 pm
New cannon model, what do you think about it ?

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Amazing!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: 85thColonel on November 01, 2013, 05:36:52 pm
love everything shown here especially those new cannons ;) SEXY
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Allasaphore on November 01, 2013, 05:40:16 pm
Have you read Simplicius Simplicissimus (1668)? It is a novel set during the time of the Thirty Years' War (note: it does have some historical inaccuracies).

I also thought I might leave these here.

This website might help a bit (arguably more centered on fifteenth/sixteenth century warfare than the seventeenth)
http://warfare.uphero.com/Renaissance/17_Imperialist.htm

Arquebus
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Arquebus being Fired
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Imperial Cavalry
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fanubisstudios.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F05%2Fimperialmountedarquebussier1640.jpg&hash=eb7327ecd91ac6bca6b51c3be12d3d8d206b89a3)
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You could also find images concerning the tactics/tech from the English Civil War (1642-1651), part of which was fought concurrently with (but not as a part of) the Thirty Years' War (1618-1648).

I'll forward more images as I collect them. I'm better with knowledge of the war than having images of it. :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Menelaos on November 01, 2013, 05:53:22 pm
Will there be different types of artillery? I have no clue about what was used, but I thought that they were larger.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: kpetschulat on November 01, 2013, 06:05:42 pm
Those cannons look like Sakers. Very cool.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on November 01, 2013, 06:12:03 pm
Will there be different types of artillery? I have no clue about what was used, but I thought that they were larger.

I think for the first release we will only have this "small" cannon. Later we will work on some different kinds of cannons and mortars.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on November 01, 2013, 10:11:46 pm
Very sexy cannon!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Spearing on November 01, 2013, 11:38:48 pm
This looks like damn good fun. Good luck.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on November 02, 2013, 12:51:25 am
Shouldn't the Hakkapeliitta be light cavalry? With two pistols? Sorry if I'm picky.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on November 02, 2013, 12:57:11 am
Shouldn't the Hakkapeliitta be light cavalry? With two pistols? Sorry if I'm picky.

I call them "medium" cavalry because they are not so heavy armored as the cuirassiers and the other cavalry units and I wont call it light cavalry because they are heavier then other cavalry units, for example the slavic cavalry.

Hakkapeliitta
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fc8%2FHakkapeliitta-1940.jpg&hash=da8c324b9338de2d0bf44f79222f898c7945f8e2)
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Slavic Cavalry
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magicus.info%2Fgn%2Fslike%2Fgn_slike_3%2Fr2%2Fg2009%2Fm11%2Fx11504220390163670446.jpg&hash=114d84008657e88cb564484f6d1265769c60afc2)
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And I am not going to give them two pistols. They will have one.




New artillery crosshair. Now it should be more difficult to kill an enemy line. Also its more realistic with the accuracy of the cannons in this time.

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/02.11.13/hd46x8ttsi89.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: kpetschulat on November 02, 2013, 02:04:16 am
So, is that displaying how inaccurate the artillery is? I like those crosshair styles, would be cool for muskets and pistols too.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on November 02, 2013, 02:06:13 am
So, is that displaying how inaccurate the artillery is? I like those crosshair styles, would be cool for muskets and pistols too.

No, the accuracy is the same, but its harder to aim with the cannon.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on November 02, 2013, 02:10:18 am
You can change the accuracy of the cannon by increasing the random offset in module_scripts. As well as the velocity of the cannonball.

Code
       (assign,":init_vel",45), # 45 meters per 0.5 seconds = 90m/s
       (assign,":ammo_size","spr_mm_cannonball_code_only_12pd"),
       (assign,":particle",-1),
       (assign,":flight_sound_id","snd_cannonball_loop"),
       (assign,":ball_x",0),
       (assign,":ball_y",0),
       (assign,":ball_z",0),
       (assign,":random_offset",25),
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: KArantukki on November 02, 2013, 02:12:28 am
You can change the accuracy of the cannon by increasing the random offset in module_scripts. As well as the velocity of the cannonball.

Code
       (assign,":init_vel",45), # 45 meters per 0.5 seconds = 90m/s
       (assign,":ammo_size","spr_mm_cannonball_code_only_12pd"),
       (assign,":particle",-1),
       (assign,":flight_sound_id","snd_cannonball_loop"),
       (assign,":ball_x",0),
       (assign,":ball_y",0),
       (assign,":ball_z",0),
       (assign,":random_offset",25),

I didnt searched for it yet, but I guess you saved me a lot of time, thank you very much.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Wismar on November 02, 2013, 03:08:43 am
Keep the musket accuracy as it is but remove the crosshair. Would be interesting.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Windbusche on November 02, 2013, 03:09:28 am
You mean Cannon? Or do you mean musket? Either would be... interesting, actually.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 02, 2013, 09:44:46 am
Shouldn't the Hakkapeliitta be light cavalry? With two pistols? Sorry if I'm picky.

I call them "medium" cavalry because they are not so heavy armored as the cuirassiers and the other cavalry units and I wont call it light cavalry because they are heavier then other cavalry units, for example the slavic cavalry.

Hakkapeliitta
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fc8%2FHakkapeliitta-1940.jpg&hash=da8c324b9338de2d0bf44f79222f898c7945f8e2)
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Slavic Cavalry
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magicus.info%2Fgn%2Fslike%2Fgn_slike_3%2Fr2%2Fg2009%2Fm11%2Fx11504220390163670446.jpg&hash=114d84008657e88cb564484f6d1265769c60afc2)
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And I am not going to give them two pistols. They will have one.




New artillery crosshair. Now it should be more difficult to kill an enemy line. Also its more realistic with the accuracy of the cannons in this time.

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magicus.info%2Fgn%2Fslike%2Fgn_slike_3%2Fr2%2Fg2009%2Fm11%2Fx11504220390163670446.jpg&hash=114d84008657e88cb564484f6d1265769c60afc2)

Awesome!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on November 02, 2013, 05:51:15 pm
I am a little confused as to how you'd include the Kingdom of England when at this time they were engaged in civil war for the most part, and the majority of sources for the period would be about the civil wars.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 02, 2013, 05:58:57 pm
I am a little confused as to how you'd include the Kingdom of England when at this time they were engaged in civil war for the most part, and the majority of sources for the period would be about the civil wars.

The English Civil War began in the later years of the war. They fought from 1625-1630 in the 30 Years War, and the civil war started in 1642. Unless you're referring to something different.

But still I would agree that England isn't the best choice as a major faction.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Willhelm on November 02, 2013, 06:08:11 pm
I am a little confused as to how you'd include the Kingdom of England when at this time they were engaged in civil war for the most part, and the majority of sources for the period would be about the civil wars.

The English Civil War began in the later years of the war. They fought from 1625-1630 in the 30 Years War, and the civil war started in 1642. Unless you're referring to something different.

But still I would agree that England isn't the best choice as a major faction.

I know that but if you try and find sources of England around this time, all you're going to find are ones for the civil war, so it would be difficult to make an English faction.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 02, 2013, 06:13:24 pm
Noticed you didn't have any sigs for the Austrians/Habsburgers, so i took the time to make you one:

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 02, 2013, 06:15:58 pm
Ah thanks. Yeah I forgot it.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Feldsau on November 02, 2013, 06:19:24 pm

They fought from 1625-1630 in the 30 Years War, and the civil war started in 1642. Unless you're referring to something different.

But still I would agree that England isn't the best choice as a major faction.

Do you have any source for that? Because everything I read never mentioned England sending troops into the war. England played a certain role in this time, but not in a major role and not in the 30 years war.
However imo it´s a good choice to take them in, even due to the fact, that you could probably reenact a battle from the ECW or another war England fought in those days. You may not forget that this is not only about the 30-years war...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 02, 2013, 06:43:15 pm

They fought from 1625-1630 in the 30 Years War, and the civil war started in 1642. Unless you're referring to something different.

But still I would agree that England isn't the best choice as a major faction.

Do you have any source for that? Because everything I read never mentioned England sending troops into the war. England played a certain role in this time, but not in a major role and not in the 30 years war.
However imo it´s a good choice to take them in, even due to the fact, that you could probably reenact a battle from the ECW or another war England fought in those days. You may not forget that this is not only about the 30-years war...

I was responding to Willhelm's post where he said that England was locked in civil war at the time. I agree that they played a very small role in the war - I was just saying that they technically were involved from 1625-30 and that the civil war that I believe he was referring to didn't start til 1642. I didn't say anything about troop commitment, and I would not include England in mod at all, aside from mercenaries that were involved in fighting but weren't under the command of England.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Charles William on November 02, 2013, 08:32:20 pm
Keep up the good work!!!  8)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Wismar on November 02, 2013, 08:39:12 pm
Keep it up!!!  8)
Do you use viagra or something because I can't.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: TORN on November 02, 2013, 08:48:34 pm
Keep it up!!!  8)
Do you use viagra or something because I can't.
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 02, 2013, 11:19:43 pm
Two Soldiers of the Regiment 'Bernhard von Weimar'. It was a Saxon Regiment wich fought together with the Swedish army in Germany.

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Lordy Man on November 02, 2013, 11:21:46 pm
the screenshots don't show up for me :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Wismar on November 02, 2013, 11:21:58 pm
NICE!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Oakenshield on November 02, 2013, 11:48:22 pm
Two Soldiers of the Regiment 'Bernhard von Weimar'. It was a Saxon Regiment wich fought together with the Swedish army in Germany.

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They look great :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: EdwardC on November 03, 2013, 02:02:03 am
Two Soldiers of the Regiment 'Bernhard von Weimar'. It was a Saxon Regiment wich fought together with the Swedish army in Germany.

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Looks awesome. :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Furrnox on November 03, 2013, 02:17:53 am
Nice work mister!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 03, 2013, 02:33:57 am
I have made new banners for the two factions, tell me if you like it.

Habsburg:
The old banner: Austrian Imperial Eagle
The new banner: Austrian Imperial Eagle and the Flag of Spain

Sweden:
The old banner: The three crowns of sweden
The new banner: Coat of arms of the House of Vasa
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Wismar on November 03, 2013, 02:42:44 am
I have made new banners for the two factions, tell me if you like it.

Habsburg:
The old banner: Austrian Imperial Eagle
The new banner: Austrian Imperial Eagle and the Flag of Spain

Sweden:
The old banner: The three crowns of sweden
The new banner: Coat of arms of the House of Vasa
Do you mean the banners that go on top of the players? Or the banners you use as an item?

Btw, It would be cool if you gave the colour bearer the Swedish battle flag.

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F1%2F19%2FNaval_Ensign_of_Sweden.svg&hash=12f68d54ae3f6404a1c6bbb8fcc05ac47f0fcf74)
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Like most northern countries the battle flags had three "tounges".
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: CharlesVasser on November 03, 2013, 03:28:01 am
Why didnt i notice this until now?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 03, 2013, 10:27:03 am
I have made new banners for the two factions, tell me if you like it.

Habsburg:
The old banner: Austrian Imperial Eagle
The new banner: Austrian Imperial Eagle and the Flag of Spain

Sweden:
The old banner: The three crowns of sweden
The new banner: Coat of arms of the House of Vasa
Do you mean the banners that go on top of the players? Or the banners you use as an item?

Btw, It would be cool if you gave the colour bearer the Swedish battle flag.

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F1%2F19%2FNaval_Ensign_of_Sweden.svg&hash=12f68d54ae3f6404a1c6bbb8fcc05ac47f0fcf74)
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Like most northern countries the battle flags had three "tounges".

I mean the banners in the first post, wich will be in the nation selection screen.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 03, 2013, 12:53:24 pm
I like the flags, especially Sweden's.

Oscar's so happy right now.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Alfred on November 03, 2013, 03:28:54 pm
Is there any dates or something when the mod can be realesed?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 03, 2013, 03:31:32 pm
No, not at the moment. But I can see we make a good progress with the units, but we still have no finished cavalry, artillery, sappers and commanders.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Furrnox on November 03, 2013, 03:52:08 pm
Critism the hats look a little bit big?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: William on November 03, 2013, 09:58:20 pm
Make more Saxon troops! They are my favorite
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 03, 2013, 10:05:47 pm
One is enough.  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Jak on November 04, 2013, 01:20:53 am
                                             [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo[/youtube]


                                            Rocroi,1643. ( in the movie of ''Alatriste'')
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Jelly on November 04, 2013, 07:56:44 pm
                                             [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo[/youtube]


                                            Rocroi,1943. ( in the movie of ''Alatriste'')
Using pikes during WWII? Woah
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Jak on November 04, 2013, 09:13:36 pm
                                             [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo[/youtube]


                                            Rocroi,1943. ( in the movie of ''Alatriste'')
Using pikes during WWII? Woah
?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 04, 2013, 09:14:41 pm
You wrote 1943.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Jak on November 04, 2013, 09:16:50 pm
LOOOOOOOL, FAIL... post edit
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Mortem on November 04, 2013, 09:18:00 pm
good luck tukki :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: EdwardC on November 05, 2013, 04:24:06 am
So hows the mod coming along?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Audiate on November 05, 2013, 04:30:29 am
I have some really interesting ideas for battles in this mod... so many possibilities... obviously both cavalry and pikemen would have a major part in the gameplay, but I'm curious to see how large groups of pikemen/cavalrymen especially can be gathered together for battles in the first place. I mean, ten pikemen wouldn't be able to do all that much, and depending on how they're balanced, neither could cavalry.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 05, 2013, 09:06:03 am
I have some really interesting ideas for battles in this mod... so many possibilities... obviously both cavalry and pikemen would have a major part in the gameplay, but I'm curious to see how large groups of pikemen/cavalrymen especially can be gathered together for battles in the first place. I mean, ten pikemen wouldn't be able to do all that much, and depending on how they're balanced, neither could cavalry.

I have the feeling that a bunch of tiny regiments are going to ruin this game in multiplayer. Running around with 10 pikemen thinking they can do something on their own.

I hope people realise that this type of warfare is literally only about cohesiveness, and people are probably going to play it like it was NW, trying to flank an entire army with 10 guys....
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Davout on November 05, 2013, 10:45:40 am
I have some really interesting ideas for battles in this mod... so many possibilities... obviously both cavalry and pikemen would have a major part in the gameplay, but I'm curious to see how large groups of pikemen/cavalrymen especially can be gathered together for battles in the first place. I mean, ten pikemen wouldn't be able to do all that much, and depending on how they're balanced, neither could cavalry.

I have the feeling that a bunch of tiny regiments are going to ruin this game in multiplayer. Running around with 10 pikemen thinking they can do something on their own.

I hope people realise that this type of warfare is literally only about cohesiveness, and people are probably going to play it like it was NW, trying to flank an entire army with 10 guys....
Have smaller battle maps with less hills. So it forces close cooperation between groups.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Oldest_Guard on November 05, 2013, 11:00:17 am
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I have some really interesting ideas for battles in this mod... so many possibilities... obviously both cavalry and pikemen would have a major part in the gameplay, but I'm curious to see how large groups of pikemen/cavalrymen especially can be gathered together for battles in the first place. I mean, ten pikemen wouldn't be able to do all that much, and depending on how they're balanced, neither could cavalry.

I have the feeling that a bunch of tiny regiments are going to ruin this game in multiplayer. Running around with 10 pikemen thinking they can do something on their own.

I hope people realise that this type of warfare is literally only about cohesiveness, and people are probably going to play it like it was NW, trying to flank an entire army with 10 guys....
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Pikemen and Musket armed troops were within the same group in battle, so I can only assume that Regiments will go half pikes and half muskets in order to fight when playing as infantry.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Willhelm on November 05, 2013, 11:04:48 am
They wont though, they will go as all musket, then they will get annihilated by cav because of no bayonets, then they will get told they need pikemen, then half will quit saying unbalanced.

So to avoid this, you should really emphasis the need for pikemen.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 05, 2013, 12:23:25 pm
They wont though, they will go as all musket, then they will get annihilated by cav because of no bayonets, then they will get told they need pikemen, then half will quit saying unbalanced.

So to avoid this, you should really emphasis the need for pikemen.

Well muskets should be nerfed, they should be nowhere near what they are in NW. I am sure the developer has thought of this though, since muskets took much longer to reload, and the accuracy was much, much lower. But it needs to be really rock paper scissor, since Pikemen takes out cav, cav takes out muskets, but muskets can't really take out Pikemen then, well i guess that is where artillery comes in.

I hope musketeers will be auxilliary to pikemen, kind of how in other mods where a line of 20 or so gets a few archers, maybe every 4 guys you get 1 musket or so, i think historically it was 1:6 in the Imperial armies and 1:3 in the Swedish army, but i guess that is up to the event hoster.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Willhelm on November 05, 2013, 12:32:16 pm
Well massed muskets can take out pikemen, if they're organised enough and fire in volleys. By the end of the 30 years war period it tended to be a ratio of 3 musketeers to 1 pikeman. Skirmishers will probably whittle away a pikeman formation. However pikemen should be able to advance to musketeers and still have enough of their force to kill them in melee.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 05, 2013, 12:35:41 pm
Well massed muskets can take out pikemen, if they're organised enough and fire in volleys. By the end of the 30 years war period it tended to be a ratio of 3 musketeers to 1 pikeman. Skirmishers will probably whittle away a pikeman formation. However pikemen should be able to advance to musketeers and still have enough of their force to kill them in melee.

Hope cav will be used well then, so that musketeers don't dare go anywhere without pikemen, a bunch of skirmishers would be quite annoying for the gameplay.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Feldsau on November 05, 2013, 06:33:39 pm
I already thought about possible rules for events. This is just a draft but it shows the direction I would aim for with an event.

Pike & Shote

Infantry Rules:

The default infantry class is pikemen
You need at least 10 people to attend to an event
If you fall under 7 people you need to join another group of players
You may pick 1 musketeer per 3 pikemen (Ration 4:1)
Musketeers have to stick with their unit

Cavalry Rules:

The maximum for cavalry are 10 people
Dragoons may not fire from horseback, while pistols may be fired

Cavalry units should be restricted so that the pikemen are the main part of each army. The gameplay of the mod should be that it is necessary for units to keep a certain formation even in melee. I already played the mod and had a look at the muskets. Those have been nerfed. The accuracy and the reloading speed are lower than in NW, they also have less cartridges (12). That´s a good, first act of balancing. However I would recommend to slow down the speed of all units.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: joer5835 on November 05, 2013, 07:01:32 pm
Screw those musketeers, I want a +100 pikemen preparing for a massive cavalry charge,
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Furrnox on November 05, 2013, 07:43:19 pm
I already thought about possible rules for events. This is just a draft but it shows the direction I would aim for with an event.

Pike & Shote

Infantry Rules:

The default infantry class is pikemen
You need at least 10 people to attend to an event
If you fall under 7 people you need to join another group of players
You may pick 1 musketeer per 3 pikemen (Ration 4:1)
Musketeers have to stick with their unit

Cavalry Rules:

The maximum for cavalry are 10 people
Dragoons may not fire from horseback, while pistols may be fired

Cavalry units should be restricted so that the pikemen are the main part of each army. The gameplay of the mod should be that it is necessary for units to keep a certain formation even in melee. I already played the mod and had a look at the muskets. Those have been nerfed. The accuracy and the reloading speed are lower than in NW, they also have less cartridges (12). That´s a good, first act of balancing. However I would recommend to slow down the speed of all units.
I think that should be higher like at least 12.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Willhelm on November 05, 2013, 07:50:42 pm
I already thought about possible rules for events. This is just a draft but it shows the direction I would aim for with an event.

Pike & Shote

Infantry Rules:

The default infantry class is pikemen
You need at least 10 people to attend to an event
If you fall under 7 people you need to join another group of players
You may pick 1 musketeer per 3 pikemen (Ration 4:1)
Musketeers have to stick with their unit

Cavalry Rules:

The maximum for cavalry are 10 people
Dragoons may not fire from horseback, while pistols may be fired

Cavalry units should be restricted so that the pikemen are the main part of each army. The gameplay of the mod should be that it is necessary for units to keep a certain formation even in melee. I already played the mod and had a look at the muskets. Those have been nerfed. The accuracy and the reloading speed are lower than in NW, they also have less cartridges (12). That´s a good, first act of balancing. However I would recommend to slow down the speed of all units.

I think you've emphasising pikemen too much, it was at least a ratio of 1:1 of pike and shot in the 30 years war, and usually 1:2 of musketeers later on.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Feldsau on November 05, 2013, 09:26:23 pm
That might be true, but you have to watch the gameplay. If there are too many musketeers, the pikes get slaughtered..
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Willhelm on November 05, 2013, 09:30:52 pm
Depends how realistic he makes the muskets.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 05, 2013, 09:35:38 pm
In the Napoleonic Wars only 1/4 of all soldiers that died in combat were shot down. The rest was mostly killed in melee and some got killed by artillery fire. And in the early 17th Century the muskets were less accurate. I think maybe 1/6-1/10 died by musket shots ...
And will there musket missfires be integrated?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Wismar on November 05, 2013, 10:24:19 pm
In the Napoleonic Wars only 1/4 of all soldiers that died in combat were shot down. The rest was mostly killed in melee and some got killed by artillery fire. And in the early 17th Century the muskets were less accurate. I think maybe 1/6-1/10 died by musket shots ...
And will there musket missfires be integrated?
I very much doubt that there were more melee kills than musket kills during the NWs since bayonet charges barely happened. Where do you get these facts from?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 05, 2013, 10:52:03 pm
In the Napoleonic Wars only 1/4 of all soldiers that died in combat were shot down. The rest was mostly killed in melee and some got killed by artillery fire. And in the early 17th Century the muskets were less accurate. I think maybe 1/6-1/10 died by musket shots ...
And will there musket missfires be integrated?

....

That is just incredibly wrong, i can't remember the exact numbers but 5% of all casualties where from bayonets, 60% from artillerymuskets and 25% musket balls Artillery and 10% sabres.

Bayonet charges usually ended up with one side running away immediatly before or upon contact with the charging enemy, which meant that most of a 'bayonet charge' was done with musket fire. It was extremely rare for two units to fight eachother in melee in open ground and only really happened if the defending side was in field fortifications. Same with pikemen, the side that was the most determined held ground/pressed on the attack, and the side who was the least determined fled.

This man explains it very well:
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edit: Put the wrong percentage for the wrong arm.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Docm30 on November 05, 2013, 10:52:55 pm
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he got them from an inaccurate source and didn't just make them up.

The respected historian John A. Lynn states that the best evidence suggests about two-thirds of Napoleonic combat wounds were caused by musket fire and around 2% by bayonets. André Corvisirer states that of the inmates at the Invalides in 1715, over 70% had musket wounds and fewer than 3% had bayonet wounds. Larrey, Napoleon's surgeon general, recorded similar numbers.

Artillery didn't begin to cause the majority of casualties in European-style warfare until WW1.

I have no idea how this relates to the early 17th century, but I'm just here to correct what needs correcting.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Willhelm on November 05, 2013, 11:50:45 pm
I dont think it's the same with pikemen, they would press against each other in a "push of pike" with the men behind pushing forward, eventually one sides formation collapsed. A deep formation worked much better than a wide one for this reason, and apparently you didn't thrust your pike, you just walked it into them. Theres some debate over how effect the armour was and whether or not the first ranks would all be killed in the initial impact though.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: CharlesVasser on November 06, 2013, 08:29:21 am
One does not simply make a thread without starting an argument.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 06, 2013, 01:11:29 pm
I wish these forums were moderated. I get tired of reading mod threads for news about said mods and skipping 2-3 pages of needless arguments.

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Feldsau on November 06, 2013, 03:36:39 pm
So and you are the obligatory flamers, every mod thread needs? What´s so wrong about the discussion, it´s no off topic spam but a debate about the warfare in this time period and the possible transfer into the gameplay...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Waterbeetle on November 06, 2013, 04:30:17 pm
Discussions are fine, if we keep it civilized ofcourse.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 06, 2013, 04:48:42 pm
I wish these forums were moderated. I get tired of reading mod threads for news about said mods and skipping 2-3 pages of needless arguments.

+1
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 06, 2013, 06:17:19 pm
I wish these forums were moderated. I get tired of reading mod threads for news about said mods and skipping 2-3 pages of needless arguments.

I'm tired of people whining.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 06, 2013, 06:29:30 pm
There was the question about the amount of pikemen and musketeers in the armies. In one of my books there is a line about the swedish army of Gustav II. Adolf:

"The Infantry was organized in battalions, each battalion had four companies, in each company there were 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen."
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 06, 2013, 06:45:09 pm
There was the question about the amount of pikemen and musketeers in the armies. In one of my books there is a line about the swedish army of Gustav II. Adolf:

"The Infantry was organized in battalions, each battalion had four companies, in each company there were 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen."

Which time of the war? It varied depending on year, with the formations at the end of the war having many more musketeers than pikes. Well since you're saying Gustav II Adolf's army i take it you mean 1629-32?

By the way, Battle of Lutzen/Gustav II Adolfs death was 381 years ago today.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 06, 2013, 06:52:32 pm
There was the question about the amount of pikemen and musketeers in the armies. In one of my books there is a line about the swedish army of Gustav II. Adolf:

"The Infantry was organized in battalions, each battalion had four companies, in each company there were 72 musketeers and 54 pikemen."

Which time of the war? It varied depending on year, with the formations at the end of the war having many more musketeers than pikes. Well since you're saying Gustav II Adolf's army i take it you mean 1629-32?

By the way, Battle of Lutzen/Gustav II Adolfs death was 381 years ago today.

I think it was in the first years when he begann to reform his army, so before the swedish intervention in the thirty years war.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 09, 2013, 09:33:11 pm
A screenshot of a new map, you can see some new wall props.

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F902138687535370332%2FD53B93DDEDD9B04E979DD4AC5EB0DCD19EB56E24%2F&hash=677f85c6cd881dfc7dc802630012696fcb8de8c5)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 09, 2013, 09:55:48 pm
Amaizing!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 09, 2013, 11:43:39 pm
Looks nice
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Lordy Man on November 09, 2013, 11:51:20 pm
I cant see any of the pictures D:
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: DasKinkyWalrus on November 10, 2013, 12:47:45 am
I cant see any of the pictures D:
Neither can I, maybe it's because we are in NZ?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Lordy Man on November 10, 2013, 01:04:21 am
I cant see any of the pictures D:
Neither can I, maybe it's because we are in NZ?

could be
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Audiate on November 10, 2013, 08:55:01 pm
This mod better be good for how much I know it will be.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: CharlesVasser on November 12, 2013, 01:31:39 pm
I cant see any of the pictures D:
Neither can I, maybe it's because we are in NZ?

could be


Why is he muted? O:
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Friedrich on November 12, 2013, 02:05:39 pm
Why is he muted? O:
Ask here: Who are these Banned/Muted/Warned people? (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2970.0)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Gustav on November 13, 2013, 09:37:49 pm
Nice work Karantukki :P I hope to see those flintlock pistols gone and a couple of unsafe and unreliable matchlock ones replacing them :P Good Luck with this project.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 13, 2013, 10:04:29 pm
Here you have a new screenshot, in some days I will post a bigger update with some new units, weapons and maps.

New Cav animation
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/13.11.13/iyw5qiallkc.png)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Wismar on November 13, 2013, 10:14:06 pm
Looking forward to it and nice animation!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 13, 2013, 10:53:49 pm
Hakkapelita?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 13, 2013, 11:20:43 pm
Awesome!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Friedrich on November 13, 2013, 11:46:22 pm
Here you have a new screenshot, in some days I will post a bigger update with some new units, weapons and maps props.

New Cav animation
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/13.11.13/iyw5qiallkc.png)
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;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 13, 2013, 11:58:04 pm
As long as sooner or later I get to start riding people down as a Siphai lancer, we'll be all good here.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Ripoll on November 14, 2013, 07:30:26 pm
amazing work, is there any date for a beta or somthing?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 14, 2013, 07:49:22 pm
No, not at the moment.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: KArantukki on November 17, 2013, 11:34:36 am
New maps / New scene Props:

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/17.11.13/t6oxze5aiefi.jpg)
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New animation for Cavalry and Pikemen:

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Ripoll on November 17, 2013, 12:00:26 pm
an impressive work, keep doing it pls  ;)

but can we see this animation for cavalry?

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toimg.net%2Fmanaged%2Fimages%2F10195315%2Fw482%2Fh298%2Fimage.jpg&hash=b7b078cfd6d7a3d52dd23d53cc39e1c2756164a8)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: KArantukki on November 17, 2013, 12:05:25 pm
This animation might look good while charging with a sword, but would it look good if you hold a flag, pistol or another item?  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 17, 2013, 12:09:44 pm
No it will not.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Ripoll on November 17, 2013, 12:12:25 pm
This animation might look good while charging with a sword, but would it look good if you hold a flag, pistol or another item?  ;)

you can do like in the deluge, if you pres some key while you where charging you have the animation.

you basically can do the same for the "x" with the lance, but with the sword.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: KArantukki on November 17, 2013, 12:28:30 pm
Well, I am not a coder and so I wont be able to do this.  :-\
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 17, 2013, 02:54:13 pm
You can just use OpenBrf.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 17, 2013, 03:06:16 pm
You can just use OpenBrf.
Yeah! Now KArantukki will know exactly how to do it!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Jelly on November 17, 2013, 03:10:09 pm
an impressive work, keep doing it pls  ;)

but can we see this animation for cavalry?

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toimg.net%2Fmanaged%2Fimages%2F10195315%2Fw482%2Fh298%2Fimage.jpg&hash=b7b078cfd6d7a3d52dd23d53cc39e1c2756164a8)
There already is an animation you can download to be able to do this.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 17, 2013, 03:13:55 pm
You can just use OpenBrf.
Yeah! Now KArantukki will know exactly how to do it!

I mean by replacing the lancer's animation.

And don't be a cheeky little bastard.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 17, 2013, 03:45:47 pm
You can just use OpenBrf.
Yeah! Now KArantukki will know exactly how to do it!

I mean by replacing the lancer's animation.

And don't be a cheeky little bastard.
Sorry :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 17, 2013, 04:10:15 pm
It's alright.  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Dusan on November 17, 2013, 05:40:54 pm
good luck tukki
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (17th Century mod)
Post by: Audiate on November 17, 2013, 05:57:13 pm
New maps / New scene Props:

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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SALIVATING OVER THESE?!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 17, 2013, 05:58:08 pm
Those maps look really damn good.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 17, 2013, 06:40:03 pm
Speaking of maps, do have a few of the larger ones set up for possible line battle events. Those smaller maps with the urban stuff look lovely but choke point heavy maps especially with small events aren't that fun as we've discovered with past mods.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 17, 2013, 06:53:16 pm
Nope, they are amazing! Typical German houses.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: KArantukki on November 17, 2013, 09:03:38 pm
Speaking of maps, do have a few of the larger ones set up for possible line battle events. Those smaller maps with the urban stuff look lovely but choke point heavy maps especially with small events aren't that fun as we've discovered with past mods.

Of course there will be big battle event maps, at the moment there is a big "Battle of Lützen map".
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 17, 2013, 11:22:59 pm
Awesome to hear.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 17, 2013, 11:32:50 pm
Speaking of maps, do have a few of the larger ones set up for possible line battle events. Those smaller maps with the urban stuff look lovely but choke point heavy maps especially with small events aren't that fun as we've discovered with past mods.

Of course there will be big battle event maps, at the moment there is a big "Battle of Lützen map".
Very nice but please don't add houses with multiple floors to prevent staircase firefights. Maybe there is something to prevent it but I don't know.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 18, 2013, 12:58:46 pm
What this mod needs is the Ogniem i Mieczem film soundtrack.  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Davout on November 18, 2013, 01:02:37 pm
Speaking of maps, do have a few of the larger ones set up for possible line battle events. Those smaller maps with the urban stuff look lovely but choke point heavy maps especially with small events aren't that fun as we've discovered with past mods.

Of course there will be big battle event maps, at the moment there is a big "Battle of Lützen map".
Very nice but please don't add houses with multiple floors to prevent staircase firefights. Maybe there is something to prevent it but I don't know.
Stick a table or something in the way
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2013, 01:36:11 pm
What this mod needs is the Ogniem i Mieczem film soundtrack.  ;D

No, it needs Sabaton, in Swedish.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 18, 2013, 01:55:03 pm
What this mod needs is the Ogniem i Mieczem film soundtrack.  ;D

No, it needs Sabaton, in Swedish.
Fu*k yes we need that!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 18, 2013, 03:42:10 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvsjuleayE[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Davout on November 18, 2013, 03:44:37 pm
If any of that shite goes anywhere near this mod.........
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 18, 2013, 03:44:56 pm
If any of that shite goes anywhere near this mod.........
Get out!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 18, 2013, 04:38:46 pm
If any of that shite goes anywhere near this mod.........

How 'bout you bugger off m8
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 18, 2013, 04:51:04 pm
What this mod needs is the Ogniem i Mieczem film soundtrack.  ;D

I love that film!

HEJ SOKOLY!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 18, 2013, 04:56:45 pm
What this mod needs is the Ogniem i Mieczem film soundtrack.  ;D

I love that film!

HEJ SOKOLY!

Sure what he said....   :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 18, 2013, 10:19:27 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXuNY1VbVLI[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Friedrich on November 19, 2013, 05:12:23 pm
Good news: the dev team of WFaS allowed us to use their models in this mod! :)

So prepare for awesome updates in the future!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 19, 2013, 05:18:42 pm
Yay!!!!!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 19, 2013, 05:20:41 pm
Yeah those guys are really cool with letting modders use their assets. And that is some great news.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 19, 2013, 06:05:41 pm
How about an england faction?  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Jelly on November 19, 2013, 06:10:45 pm
How about an england faction?  :P
Think it's focused on the continental battles.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: KArantukki on November 19, 2013, 06:22:47 pm
How about an england faction?  :P

Maybe later, first we want to focus on the Nations in central Europe, Habsburg, Sweden, France, Netherlands, Poland, ...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 19, 2013, 06:53:40 pm
Yeah, I'd keep the Central Powers as the main focus.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 19, 2013, 07:11:40 pm
Yeah, I'd keep the Central Powers as the main focus.

Central powers was the allied bloc of powers in WW1 led by Germany...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 19, 2013, 07:12:18 pm
Yeah, I'd keep the Central Powers as the main focus.

Central powers was the allied bloc of powers in WW1 led by Germany...
And austria, german wannabes.  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Wismar on November 19, 2013, 07:58:57 pm
Yeah, I'd keep the Central Powers as the main focus.

Central powers was the allied bloc of powers in WW1 led by Germany...
And austria, german wannabes.  :P
Austrians are Germans :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Friedrich on November 19, 2013, 08:24:07 pm
Not any more. Of course until the 50s the majority of Austrians felt as Germans. But since then it changed.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 19, 2013, 09:27:10 pm
It'd be nice if the Deluge would allow the use of their own music too. That stuff was fantastic.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 19, 2013, 09:30:18 pm
Could ask The Deluge team for a number of their other resources too while you're at it ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: Friedrich on November 19, 2013, 10:54:53 pm
It'd be nice if the Deluge would allow the use of their own music too. That stuff was fantastic.
We will try to use time specific music. Especially early or high baroque music.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofaPibFQc1k[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdlfxCFvSd0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caJUHXtWZQA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRbGXNWZ4iE[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: KArantukki on November 22, 2013, 06:50:31 pm
Scottish Cavalry (here you can see the lancer, but there will be Dragoons as subunit too):

Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/4q6oe6wl6q1r.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 22, 2013, 06:53:58 pm
That is very cool. Household Dragoons for the Swedes, right? Will you make 'em?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Pictures on Pg.17 | Looking for a coder)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 22, 2013, 07:00:04 pm
Scottish Cavalry (here you can see the lancer, but there will be Dragoons as subunit too):

Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/4q6oe6wl6q1r.jpg)
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Awesome!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Friedrich on November 22, 2013, 07:12:47 pm
That is very cool. Household Dragoons for the Swedes, right? Will you make 'em?
According the common sources, there was no swedish houshold cavalry in the time of the Swedish War or Swedish Intervention. All cavalry was incorporated since the 1620s in 8 Cavalry Regiments, but named after Swedish provinces, not their type/rank.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 22, 2013, 07:14:32 pm
Oh, alright. There goes my b0ner.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 22, 2013, 07:22:07 pm
Will there be Highlanders on foot? or will they just be part of the Lancer set?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 22, 2013, 07:23:05 pm
How will the cannons work? surely you're going to tweak with the cannonball itself I mean and how it bounces a rediculous number of times, blocks of pikes would become rather raped if they stay the same.  :-\
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 22, 2013, 07:25:34 pm
That is a pretty tricky question.

I've got one too, would you considering misfires, beefing up Sappers and their defences and looking into a artillery spiking mechanic?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 22, 2013, 07:26:22 pm
Will there be Highlanders on foot? or will they just be part of the Lancer set?

Look in the first post, there is a scottish regiment of foot that fights for sweden.

How will the cannons work? surely you're going to tweak with the cannonball itself I mean and how it bounces a rediculous number of times, blocks of pikes would become rather raped if they stay the same.  :-\

The artillery will work as the arty in NW, but we nerfed it. There is a new crosshair and the cannon itself is less accurate.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Friedrich on November 22, 2013, 07:35:38 pm
Oh, alright. There goes my b0ner.
Sorry. :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 22, 2013, 07:55:45 pm
Quote
The artillery will work as the arty in NW, but we nerfed it. There is a new crosshair and the cannon itself is less accurate.

Got any new sound files for artillery? The WFAS team would probably let you use theirs.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 22, 2013, 09:19:03 pm
There is no Arty in WFaS
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 22, 2013, 09:20:03 pm
There is no Arty in WFaS

Wot. I could have sworn... Must have played too many mods then.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Wolff on November 22, 2013, 09:21:17 pm
surely u did
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Friedrich on November 22, 2013, 09:37:28 pm
There is no Arty in WFaS

Wot. I could have sworn... Must have played too many mods then.
In The Deluge was arty!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 22, 2013, 09:39:54 pm
Wuh, Page 21, make it to page 22 and I will give you screenshots of another new unit and a new map.  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Friedrich on November 22, 2013, 09:45:26 pm
Let's do it! XD
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 22, 2013, 09:45:54 pm
Cmon guys, spamspamspam.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 22, 2013, 09:50:48 pm
Please give me scottish people
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 22, 2013, 10:05:20 pm
Bump for great justice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Olafson on November 22, 2013, 10:06:41 pm
I want to see that new unit.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 22, 2013, 10:08:36 pm
I want to see that new unit.

The great Olaf has asked for it, IT SHALL BE DONE!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 22, 2013, 10:16:19 pm
Ok, here is the new unit:

What would be NW without the Partizani? But Partizanis in a thirty years war mod?
I proudly present the ....

Spoiler
Armed Peasants, just some angry german farmers with forks :D (atm with native cloth)
Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/wq4iowr9lqpf.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Jelly on November 22, 2013, 10:22:29 pm
Huzzah, Partizani!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Feldsau on November 22, 2013, 11:15:30 pm
I don´t need to spam for more pictures. I can simply test it myself :P :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 22, 2013, 11:35:03 pm
Page 22? Fuck me.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 22, 2013, 11:44:51 pm
Page 22? Fuck me.
okei
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Wismar on November 22, 2013, 11:45:25 pm
Can I has blunderbuss?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 22, 2013, 11:51:20 pm
Can I has blunderbuss?

The engineers get a blunderbus.




Also Thanks to Furrnox for creating some swedish voices.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Olafson on November 23, 2013, 12:19:17 am
The Native clothes work well enough though. Nice.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Wismar on November 23, 2013, 12:36:40 am
Can I has blunderbuss?

The engineers get a blunderbus.




Also Thanks to Furrnox for creating some swedish voices.
YESSSSS!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Furrnox on November 23, 2013, 12:40:19 am
Can I has blunderbuss?

The engineers get a blunderbus.




Also Thanks to Furrnox for creating some swedish voices.
No problem :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Friedrich on November 23, 2013, 02:01:16 am
Very nice testing tonight! :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Feldsau on November 23, 2013, 02:01:39 am
Indeed it was :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: TomaHawkAU on November 23, 2013, 02:32:44 am
If your looking for a coder I can say that I am a semi decent coder
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Dom13WorstNW on November 23, 2013, 04:59:43 am
Can I has blunderbuss?

The engineers get a blunderbus.




Also Thanks to Furrnox for creating some swedish voices.
YESSSSS!

lol

CAN I HAS A SNIPER RIFLE?  :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 05:46:55 am
I will volunteer to do voice acting, if needed! I have a conceptual understanding of many languages, even if I don't speak them. My accent is very good. Also, I'm fluent in German, since I'm German. So, if you'd like to remake the commands, or add new ones, just give me a list, and I'll work on 'em.

Jolly ho'!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 23, 2013, 08:00:06 am
Wuh, Page 21, make it to page 22 and I will give you screenshots of another new unit and a new map.  ;D

Well? :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Friedrich on November 23, 2013, 09:39:08 am
Wuh, Page 21, make it to page 22 and I will give you screenshots of another new unit and a new map.  ;D

Well? :P
This!
Ok, here is the new unit:

What would be NW without the Partizani? But Partizanis in a thirty years war mod?
I proudly present the ....

Spoiler
Armed Peasants, just some angry german farmers with forks :D (atm with native cloth)
Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/wq4iowr9lqpf.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Prince_Eugen on November 23, 2013, 09:40:10 am
Lol Angry German Peasants, will it be like Angry Birds style? :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 23, 2013, 07:15:29 pm
Wuh, Page 21, make it to page 22 and I will give you screenshots of another new unit and a new map.  ;D

Well? :P
This!
Ok, here is the new unit:

What would be NW without the Partizani? But Partizanis in a thirty years war mod?
I proudly present the ....

Spoiler
Armed Peasants, just some angry german farmers with forks :D (atm with native cloth)
Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/wq4iowr9lqpf.jpg)
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B-b-b-but he said page 22! That means there's another one, r-right? :-*
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 23, 2013, 07:17:14 pm
Next map and unit at page 23.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 07:32:24 pm
SPAM 2 WIN PL0X I suck at this...  :'(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: TORN on November 23, 2013, 07:33:26 pm
Petschie please return to your hole ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 07:39:30 pm
But, I...  :'(

I WIN
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 23, 2013, 07:43:25 pm
Woooo! (This is an ingenious way to get people to bump your thread by the way, gg)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: KArantukki on November 23, 2013, 07:49:45 pm
New unit: Berittene Arkebusiere

Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/x7u5lgmvhwok.jpg)
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New map: Farmland (evening)

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/albqvpx8wfoj.jpg)
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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/dlygm5cyrues.jpg)
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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/35s34wdcbnf.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 23, 2013, 07:51:20 pm
Looking good.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 23, 2013, 07:52:06 pm
Great!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 07:55:08 pm
That maps looks sweet. I can see pike walls lining on those bridges... Excellent work! Let's go for page 24 release?  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on November 23, 2013, 08:18:42 pm
What if I told you that you could change the amount of posts you see on one page.
15 is just the default. I could still be watching this at page 22.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 23, 2013, 08:20:21 pm
What if I told you that you could change the amount of posts you see on one page.
15 is just the default. I could still be watching this at page 22.

Yes, I've been thinking about that. I suppose for threads like this, it would still be standardized at the default to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|Scottish Cav on Pg.20)
Post by: Wismar on November 23, 2013, 08:28:31 pm
New unit: Berittene Arkebusiere

Spoiler
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/x7u5lgmvhwok.jpg)
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New map: Farmland (evening)

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/albqvpx8wfoj.jpg)
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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/dlygm5cyrues.jpg)
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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/23.11.13/35s34wdcbnf.jpg)
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Very nice musket texture!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 08:33:36 pm
It's an arquebus, not a musket. :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 23, 2013, 08:38:40 pm
It's an arquebus, not a musket. :)
"Matchlock musket"
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Raddeo on November 23, 2013, 08:40:48 pm
Nice units, but I think that you should work a bit more on diffuse and normal textures of clothes. I mean, you should add some folds on clothes, now it's just texture of brown fabric and it looks very unrealistic. Take a look at NW uniforms or uniforms from other mods (like IE or L'Aigle), there's a lot of different folds on them, for example, on sleeves, on the sides of body, on the shoulders, and a lot of them on trousers. If you don't know how to make good folds, you can just copy them from NW texture and recolour to fit your needs. I think that it would make your units look much more realistic :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 23, 2013, 08:54:50 pm
There are folds on the cloth, but not that much as the NW units have, also you cant see them very good, thats true. I just began to model/texture uniforms when I started this mod, so I dont know how to make good looking folds and uniformextras.  :-[
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 08:55:28 pm
I think it's fine how it is...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Olafson on November 23, 2013, 09:33:40 pm
Same... They look nice. And that map is sweet.

Are you going to add new sounds for the new weapons? Something that sounds more like a arquebuse? And is the time it takes to ignite the powder and fire the gun longer?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 23, 2013, 09:39:36 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 10:21:31 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTS8PQ06Qo[/youtube]

This is a good video. It even opens with a clear loud clack from a matchlock arquebus. You could use this sound.

Times of shots: 00:00 and 02:10... Both excellent.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 23, 2013, 10:23:32 pm
He'll need at least five more firing sounds too. And four sounds for ground impacts. And one or two missing sound effects.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 10:25:40 pm
All he has to do is change the intensity of the sounds and modify them with a sound editor for the different firing sounds. There is a good mod called "Sound and Smoke (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,169492.0.html)" that was used for With Fire and Sword... That pack had realistic firing sounds, clacks, and even whizzing bullet sounds when they passed by you. It's worth checking out.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 23, 2013, 10:27:29 pm
Oh that mod for sounds is excellent.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 23, 2013, 10:32:41 pm
Indeed, it is. I ALWAYS use it. The Smoke it generates from the guns is also incredible, and really adds to the experience. KAruntukki, since you have permission to use WFaS resources, you could very easy re-implement this mini-mod into your mod. It'll work the same.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 23, 2013, 10:33:54 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTS8PQ06Qo[/youtube]

This is a good video. It even opens with a clear loud clack from a matchlock arquebus. You could use this sound.

Times of shots: 00:00 and 02:10... Both excellent.

Nice, i will test them ingame.

Also, wellcome to the team, TomaHawkAU
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 23, 2013, 10:37:33 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TomaHawkAU on November 23, 2013, 11:10:22 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great

already sent him A Lifetime of War, Lion from the North and Gott mit uns
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 23, 2013, 11:55:04 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great

already sent him A Lifetime of War, Lion from the North and Gott mit uns

Swedish versions i hope? The English ones are slightly sub par
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TomaHawkAU on November 24, 2013, 12:16:30 am
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great

already sent him A Lifetime of War, Lion from the North and Gott mit uns

Swedish versions i hope? The English ones are slightly sub par

nope, me no speaky swedish
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Rigadoon on November 24, 2013, 02:27:47 am
There are folds on the cloth, but not that much as the NW units have, also you cant see them very good, thats true. I just began to model/texture uniforms when I started this mod, so I dont know how to make good looking folds and uniformextras.  :-[

If you want, I could try adding some folds onto your uniforms using the primitive methods I used for the IE French uniforms.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 24, 2013, 10:20:59 am
Would be nice if you can help me with some tricks :)

However, I edited the uniform and added some more folds, what do you think about it?

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 10:21:37 am
Looks even better! ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Prince_Eugen on November 24, 2013, 10:27:14 am
Yea, looks better.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Looking for a coder|New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 02:47:23 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great

already sent him A Lifetime of War, Lion from the North and Gott mit uns

Swedish versions i hope? The English ones are slightly sub par

nope, me no speaky swedish
What!! The English version are kinda meh compared to the Swedish ones! They are so much better.
Doesn't matter if you don't speak Swedish. It's like saying "let's have the Swedish battleshouts in English because I can't speak Swedish.

Just listen to this epic shit
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8jki4i4raQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 24, 2013, 03:32:13 pm
Oscar, please just shut up.

It was so much quieter before you were unbanned.

T'was like heaven.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 24, 2013, 03:39:05 pm
Oscar, please just shut up.

It was so much quieter before you were unbanned.

T'was like heaven.

To shut someone up on the internet you have to cut their hands off.

Either way, be nicer.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 24, 2013, 05:22:15 pm
While it is nice you are proud of your country and heritage, I think we all know you love Sweden Oscar. But it gets a little annoying sometimes so keep it on the down alright?

Nobody wants to be that Serbian obsessed guy now. Besides you can mod the music in yourself when all is said and done.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 24, 2013, 05:23:21 pm
Nobody wants to be that Serbian obsessed guy now.

Montenegrin
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 24, 2013, 05:56:32 pm
While it is nice you are proud of your country and heritage, I think we all know you love Sweden Oscar. But it gets a little annoying sometimes so keep it on the down alright?

Nobody wants to be that Serbian obsessed guy now. Besides you can mod the music in yourself when all is said and done.

You say nothing to the guy who is telling Oscar to shut up which breaks rule 2, and instead you tell Oscar to keep down on being 'proud' of his country? He's showing a video of a song in Swedish, which is better than the English version which is what we were discussing, he's not even being patriotic. Besides being patriotic isn't even against forum rules...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Jelly on November 24, 2013, 06:00:11 pm
Baktech is usually as bad as Oscar as well. ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 06:01:11 pm
While it is nice you are proud of your country and heritage, I think we all know you love Sweden Oscar. But it gets a little annoying sometimes so keep it on the down alright?

Nobody wants to be that Serbian obsessed guy now. Besides you can mod the music in yourself when all is said and done.
It wasn't something about being overly proud...
It was about that the Swedish version of the song is simply better because it was written by Swedes.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on November 24, 2013, 06:02:49 pm
While it is nice you are proud of your country and heritage, I think we all know you love Sweden Oscar. But it gets a little annoying sometimes so keep it on the down alright?

Nobody wants to be that Serbian obsessed guy now. Besides you can mod the music in yourself when all is said and done.

You say nothing to the guy who is telling Oscar to shut up which breaks rule 2, and instead you tell Oscar to keep down on being 'proud' of his country? He's showing a video of a song in Swedish, which is better than the English version which is what we were discussing, he's not even being patriotic. Besides being patriotic isn't even against forum rules...

I'm sure it's difficult to adjust to being a moderator, since you have to adapt to the rules a lot more strictly. Give Nurdbot some slack.

I love the- well, everything so far! I'm very excited for this as always. Keep it up, fellas!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on November 24, 2013, 06:10:18 pm
I would personally dislike it if such music would be in the game mod :/
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 24, 2013, 06:11:43 pm
The music from WFaS would fit excellently into this mod, since it's period-correct ethnic music.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 24, 2013, 06:13:18 pm
I may have gotten the context of the situation wrong but yeah stuff has been said about that music on both sides lets just move along and let the man making the mod roll with whatever.

Also, for WFAS music too if possible.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 06:31:37 pm
I remember how in WFaS you reloaded the muskets in like 5 seconds and they were as accurate as in B&I...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on November 24, 2013, 06:36:12 pm
Oscar, please just shut up.

It was so much quieter before you were unbanned.

T'was like heaven.

Sorry it was over the top.  :(

Friends?  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 06:39:09 pm
Oscar, please just shut up.

It was so much quieter before you were unbanned.

T'was like heaven.

Sorry it was over the top.  :(

Friends?  :)
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I'm the dog btw...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Johan on November 24, 2013, 06:54:18 pm
I think a few people in this thread dosen't know what this means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 24, 2013, 07:40:33 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great
Sorry, but if we have fun enough to add a swedish metal song, it WILL be from Amon Amarth. Sabaton is for pussys!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 24, 2013, 07:47:16 pm
The last days I Friedrich and I searched for some new music/sound when winning or loosing a battle, tomorrow I will add the best musictracks. I havent found something that we could use for the sound of the muskets and arquebuses yet.

The time to reload and the time to fire a gun is now longer than in NW.

Please, please, please make the Swedish winning tune 'Lion of the North' by Sabaton!  ;D Would be great
Sorry, but if we have fun enough to add a swedish metal song, it WILL be from Amon Amarth. Sabaton is for pussys!

Oh please, Amon Amarth is introductory metal. Bathory is true Swedish black metal.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYnstGB3rM[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 07:48:05 pm
I think a few people in this thread dosen't know what this means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
Including you.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Furrnox on November 24, 2013, 07:49:09 pm
pls staph.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on November 24, 2013, 07:53:52 pm
Or no black metal in the mod?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 24, 2013, 09:11:47 pm
Oh please, Amon Amarth is introductory metal. Bathory is true Swedish black metal.
Never said that Amon Amarth are playing black metal, dude! :D
And I prefer Dissection if we talk about swedish black metal! ;)

Or no black metal in the mod?
No, only pre-classic tunes. But need to talk to Tukki again. Currently he left out all military tunes. His reason is because of some rustle in some of the tunes. But man: try to find good baroque marches played NOT in classical/military style of the late 19th century AND in a modern digitaly remastered version!. I try to add/find songs in historically informed performance (or period performance, authentic performance, HIP).
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on November 24, 2013, 09:52:36 pm
Sabaton is actually not metal. It is power rock.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on November 24, 2013, 09:56:57 pm
*Ahem*

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What is this mod about?

This mod about the time of the "Thirty Years' War" (1618-1648). During this time many nations
fought each other, they fought for their religion, for power and some fought for independence.
It was a brutal time, in some parts of central europe about 20-50% of the people died by battles,
raids and diseases.

However, I'm not going focusing on the war in Germany, the mod will include other wars and theaters too,
 for example the Eighty Years' War, the Swedish-Polish wars and the wars between Spain and France (1635–1659).

               
Features
                               

- New Nations: In the first release it will be Kingdom of Sweden and Empire of Habsburg (Austria & Spain)
- New Units (Musketeers, Pikeman, cuirassiers, ...)
- A big variety of uniforms for the units.
- New Maps
- New banners, loadingscreens, music, ...
- Maybe a new system for the firearms



Nations & Units



(https://www7.pic-upload.de/03.11.13/68bc7b6ikg1.png)
                                                                                                                                                                                   

Habsburger Reich
(Austrian Empire with some Spanish troops)


Regiment 'Abensberg und Traun-Meissau' (German Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
- Zweihandträger
Screenshot
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Regiment 'Comargo' (German Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
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Tercio Español (Spanish Infantry )
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Pikeman and Ranker
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Tercio Español (Spanish Infantry )
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Bewaffnete Bürger (Militia)
- Ranker
- Armed Peasants



Kroatische Reiterei (Slavic Light Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Lancer
- Officer


Pappenheimer Kürassiere (German Heavy Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Berittene Arkebusiere (German Medium Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer



Artillerie Regiment (Artillery)
- Ranker
- Officer

Ingenieur (Sapper)

Albrecht von Wallenstein (Commander)


               
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/03.11.13/chzg43mv5eiw.png)
                       
Konungariket Sverige
(The kingdom of Sweden)

Gula brigaden (The Yellow Brigade)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/k58lqmufkqwa.jpg)
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Blåa brigaden (The Blue Brigade)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot of the Officer
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/9gq52da1hts9.jpg)
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Donald Mackay's Regiment (Scottish Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Swordsman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot of a Pikeman
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/29.10.13/et7rpxlwr9.jpg)
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Regiment 'Bernhard von Weimar' (German Infantry)
- Ranker
- Pikeman
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Screenshot
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/02.11.13/k7jexra1uow3.jpg)
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Smålands Kavalleriregementet (Swedish Heavy Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Hakkapeliitta (Finnish Medium Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Officer
- Flag bearer

Scottish mercenary Cavalry (Scottish Cavalry)
- Ranker
- Lancer
- Officer
- Flag bearer
Lancers and Officer
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/22.11.13/4q6oe6wl6q1r.jpg)
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Artilleri regemente (Artillery)
- Ranker
- Officer

ingenjörssoldat (Sapper)

Gustav II. Adolf (Commander)




Screenshots:

New cannon model
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New artillery crosshair
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New cavalry animation
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/17.11.13/hgh3uad3l2cd.jpg)
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New scene props and map
(https://www7.pic-upload.de/17.11.13/u9nf35h2ghlh.jpg)
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How can you can help the mod?

- We are searching for a coder! If you have skill and experience you can join the team, depending on your skill you have to do stuff like disable shoot function while crouching, disable shoot function while walking or attachable musketforks for the muskets.
- It take a lot of time to model/texture all the stuff, so if you have moddeling/texturing skills and whant to help send me a pm.
- Post pictures of Units, Weapons and Battles of this time.
- If you have an idea for a unit, feel free to post something about this unit in this thread.
- You are swedish or spanish and you have a good microphone? Become a voiceactor for the new units.
- Wear the mod signatures.

Signatures:


King Gustav II. Adolf
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Habsburg
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Kingdom of Sweden
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Tercio and Cavalry
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Two Riders of the Thirty Years' War
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Kingdom of Spain
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Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
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Team:             
- KArantukki
- Volumed
- Frederik
- Friedrich
- TomaHawkAU

                                                                                       
Helpers:
- Feldsau
- DanyEle
- Oldest_Guard


                                                                                       
Credits:
- WfaS team for their sceneprops and models
- Furrnox for the swedish voices
- OSP Highlanders models by Yamabusi
- OSP Flintlock Firearms by Llew
- Jan Tumas Sturmhauben OSP

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 24, 2013, 09:57:46 pm
What ?  :-\
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 24, 2013, 10:57:55 pm
Sabaton is actually not metal. It is power rock.
According to themselves, press and common sources, they're a Power Metal band. :/

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sabaton/484 (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sabaton/484)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaton_(band) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaton_(band))

*Ahem*
Explain. We don't get what you're trying to tell us!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 24, 2013, 11:10:12 pm
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Never said that Amon Amarth are playing black metal, dude! :D
And I prefer Dissection if we talk about swedish black metal! ;)

I know, Amon Amarth are viking metal, although that is a subgenre of black metal. And Dissection are good, but I prefer Norwegian black metal. Dimmu Borgir!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 24, 2013, 11:16:04 pm
Amon Amarth isn't really in one genre: their lyrics are typical Viking Metal, but their music is unlike normal more Melodic Death Metal with Death Metal vocals. xD

But anyway, Dimmu Borgir is no Black Metal (any more), since 10-12 years they're Dark metal.
I like Norwegan Black Metal too. But especially small, unknown bands like Sigtyr, Cor Scorpii, Windir etc.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on November 24, 2013, 11:37:10 pm
*Ahem*
Explain. We don't get what you're trying to tell us!

I was hinting that this thread is "The Century of War" mod development thread, and not the "Let's discuss Swedish black metal" thread. It's in the guidelines for posting under the forum rules to not drive a thread off-topic.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on November 25, 2013, 12:01:55 am
they are discussing music to be put in-game. There is nothing going off-topic except you....
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 25, 2013, 12:04:09 am
Needs Amon amarth.  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: William on November 25, 2013, 12:05:04 am
Not sure if this has been discussed but will there be dual barrel guns and pistols, or at least the ability to have two pistols. If I'm not mistaken the cavalry of the day had two shots, they would fire one at 20 yards, and another at 10 yards before crashing into the enemy line.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on November 25, 2013, 12:07:28 am
they are discussing music to be put in-game. There is nothing going off-topic except you....

Swedish Black Metal in this mod would kill it instantly. Why in the world would it ever be considered?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on November 25, 2013, 12:08:22 am
they are discussing music to be put in-game. There is nothing going off-topic except you....

Swedish Black Metal in this mod would kill it instantly.
Ofcourse I know that which is why I try to share my opinion about it.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on November 25, 2013, 12:10:18 am
they are discussing music to be put in-game. There is nothing going off-topic except you....

Swedish Black Metal in this mod would kill it instantly.
Ofcourse I know that which is why I try to share my opinion about it.

Nothing about that makes sense as to how I'm off-topic and talk about Swedish Black Metal isn't. Whatever. Bye.

Good luck mod team, can't wait to play.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 25, 2013, 12:20:39 am
they are discussing music to be put in-game. There is nothing going off-topic except you....

Swedish Black Metal in this mod would kill it instantly. Why in the world would it ever be considered?

Lol, nobody actually wants Swedish Black Metal to be in the mod, or at least I hope they don't. We were just discussing metal, as tends to happen when metal is brought up in any situation.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 25, 2013, 01:50:49 am
Not sure if this has been discussed but will there be dual barrel guns and pistols, or at least the ability to have two pistols. If I'm not mistaken the cavalry of the day had two shots, they would fire one at 20 yards, and another at 10 yards before crashing into the enemy line.
Problem is still to have a balanced gameplay, but we considered it! We need just first to implement those guns and to test around. Be patient.

Lol, nobody actually wants Swedish Black Metal to be in the mod, or at least I hope they don't. We were just discussing metal, as tends to happen when metal is brought up in any situation.
Give this man his Medal!

But I'm afraid, Audiate is right. Enough here from this, there will be no kind of Metal in this mod.
No, only pre-classic tunes.
You can replace every track by yourself with every genre you want later by yourself! ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on November 25, 2013, 03:34:09 pm
I would never add modern music to a mod like this, I dont know who began this discussion.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wigster600 on November 25, 2013, 03:45:44 pm
needs either dramatic movie music or jigs of the time period  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 25, 2013, 04:41:44 pm
Problem on movie scores: copyrights. We try not to violate these.

So, we agreed on historical music. We have now various tunes from 1590-1680 AD.

And imo, classical music > movie soundtracks!  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on November 25, 2013, 05:24:25 pm
needs either dramatic movie music or jigs of the time period  :P
Lots of dramatic music.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 25, 2013, 07:37:20 pm
Not sure if this has been discussed but will there be dual barrel guns and pistols, or at least the ability to have two pistols. If I'm not mistaken the cavalry of the day had two shots, they would fire one at 20 yards, and another at 10 yards before crashing into the enemy line.

Early war cavalry didn't charge, they would do a caracole, basically a cavalry version of a fire by rank from relatively close range, but still outside the effective range of the pistol of the time, which made the formation ineffective. When the Swedes entered the war we made it more common to charge instead, which we learnt from the Polish and their hussars during our brief war with them.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: William on November 25, 2013, 07:39:47 pm
Not sure if this has been discussed but will there be dual barrel guns and pistols, or at least the ability to have two pistols. If I'm not mistaken the cavalry of the day had two shots, they would fire one at 20 yards, and another at 10 yards before crashing into the enemy line.

Early war cavalry didn't charge, they would do a caracole, basically a cavalry version of a fire by rank from relatively close range, but still outside the effective range of the pistol of the time, which made the formation ineffective. When the Swedes entered the war we made it more common to charge instead, which we learnt from the Polish and their hussars during our brief war with them.

Ahh, thank you for clearing that up. I guess I had read something from a later time in history.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 25, 2013, 07:51:20 pm
Not sure if this has been discussed but will there be dual barrel guns and pistols, or at least the ability to have two pistols. If I'm not mistaken the cavalry of the day had two shots, they would fire one at 20 yards, and another at 10 yards before crashing into the enemy line.

Early war cavalry didn't charge, they would do a caracole, basically a cavalry version of a fire by rank from relatively close range, but still outside the effective range of the pistol of the time, which made the formation ineffective. When the Swedes entered the war we made it more common to charge instead, which we learnt from the Polish and their hussars during our brief war with them.

Ahh, thank you for clearing that up. I guess I had read something from a later time in history.

Don't get me wrong, they still used guns, particularly the Austrians who used several pistols, but in Swedish doctrine atleast the use of cavalry was to break enemy formations by riding knee to knee with cold steel. The Swedish cavalry however was supported by companies of musketeers who followed them around to provide organic fire support, since the musketeers had longer range than the Austrian cavalry's pistols, and thw Swedes could defeat the Austrians cavalry in the charge by using their superior formations (Typically atleast, the Austrians gave the Swedish cavalry beatings on several occasions, including that one time they killed our king).
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: William on November 25, 2013, 07:55:38 pm
Wait, is the mod set during the reign of Gustavus Adolphus or is it later?

Edit, in that case, please make a map of Breitenfeld.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 25, 2013, 08:09:21 pm
Wait, is the mod set during the reign of Gustavus Adolphus or is it later?

Edit, in that case, please make a map of Breitenfeld.

It's set in the general period of the thirty years war, so I'm guessing it'll most likely include every battle.

Edit: wooo 28
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 25, 2013, 08:31:56 pm
Not sure if this has been discussed but will there be dual barrel guns and pistols, or at least the ability to have two pistols. If I'm not mistaken the cavalry of the day had two shots, they would fire one at 20 yards, and another at 10 yards before crashing into the enemy line.

Early war cavalry didn't charge, they would do a caracole, basically a cavalry version of a fire by rank from relatively close range, but still outside the effective range of the pistol of the time, which made the formation ineffective. When the Swedes entered the war we made it more common to charge instead, which we learnt from the Polish and their hussars during our brief war with them.

Ahh, thank you for clearing that up. I guess I had read something from a later time in history.

Don't get me wrong, they still used guns, particularly the Austrians who used several pistols, but in Swedish doctrine atleast the use of cavalry was to break enemy formations by riding knee to knee with cold steel. The Swedish cavalry however was supported by companies of musketeers who followed them around to provide organic fire support, since the musketeers had longer range than the Austrian cavalry's pistols, and thw Swedes could defeat the Austrians cavalry in the charge by using their superior formations (Typically atleast, the Austrians gave the Swedish cavalry beatings on several occasions, including that one time they killed our king).
Within Sweden entered the War, caracole tactic was abolished soon after. Because it wasn't effective any more against the reformed infantry under Gustav Adolphus II (too much muskets). So the charge of cavalry with cold steel was a consequential re-establishment, because a bayonet was still not in use (however, the plug bayonet was invented sometime in the beginning of the 17th century). As (german) example, he Habsburg general Pappenheim (+1632) disallowed his cuirassiers to reload (means to caracole) and charge directly after they fired their wheellock pistols once.

Wait, is the mod set during the reign of Gustavus Adolphus or is it later?

Edit, in that case, please make a map of Breitenfeld.

We just started out with the conflict between Sweden under Gustavus Adolphus' and the Catholic League under Albrecht Wallenstein's command. But later it will expand (hopefully) around the actions in the Franco-Spanish War and Eighty Years' War, maybe English Civil War, too? But still before the bayonet era!

But I don't want to promise something here we can't keep! ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Baillie on November 26, 2013, 11:05:58 pm
Good luck Tukki :) If you need any help, feel free to ask :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Ripoll on November 27, 2013, 01:23:08 am
here i let you some pictures of acurate uniforms of spanish troops in flandes, i can help with spainish trops, don't know much fo the others. I hope this help you to do more historical acurate units.

cavalry officer
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Pikeman
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Captain
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(the sure of captain is they have more armor than pikeman, but the helmet is like a reiter, and someone don't have helmet, the captain wearing a hat is what we see more tipical in spain)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.historicaloutline.com%2Fimagenes%2Flaminas%2Fficha%2FL1216.jpg&hash=d82ba04c72415dc787caa4c83c2e80e57bbb8793)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3801%2F8990407943_fe81c212a0_o.jpg&hash=f4870ffaa6c16418fdb199685402d921ef16a1c0)
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The musketeer
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They wear hat, no helmet
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.historicaloutline.com%2Fimagenes%2Fbocetos%2Fficha%2F07v.jpg&hash=da1c537169c3c360fec5c977260676f3f5b7393e)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-U-IZDHViBMg%2FTfj1_OOBkzI%2FAAAAAAAAATc%2FSHtFGQRn3hc%2Fs320%2Fterciosiv8.jpg&hash=6f0fbe9ad7d6c23e5542aee326f1736c835b4673)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iribarren.eu%2FImagenes%2FUniformil%2FAmpli-uniform%2FMAASTRICHT.jpg&hash=709e2c2b173b9a8f859f2540fc8be48ce76f30bf)
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bonus pictures of the battle of rocroi:
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if i find more information i will post, and keep this amazing job
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 27, 2013, 01:45:04 am
Thanks for the pics, but most of them we allready had! :D

But musketeers weared as well helmets. There was no standard (in every army), it just represented personal taste and wealth.
For example, on the right bottom of the big picture of the battle of rocroi, there is a crawling musketeer with a morion and breastplate. :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Bluehawk on November 27, 2013, 01:58:05 am
Besides the extra armour and lace on his collar, the real distinguishing mark of the officer is the coloured sash over his shoulder or around his waist.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 27, 2013, 02:48:26 am
Can you please make it so that pikes cannot block? Why? Pike walls fighting were VERY deadly. It should be consistent stabbing and thrusting into enemies, no blocking. Also, if you could make it so that pikes drop when weapon changes, that would be really cool.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Colbac on November 27, 2013, 04:04:06 am
Can you please make it so that pikes cannot block? Why? Pike walls fighting were VERY deadly. It should be consistent stabbing and thrusting into enemies, no blocking. Also, if you could make it so that pikes drop when weapon changes, that would be really cool.
Pike Walls were deadly but they don't seem to work in Mount and Blade: Warband against infantry very well.
The real problem with them is that you can simply walk through walls of pikes and start slashing the guy in the front rank, making pike walls sort-of useless. I mean, all you need to really do is just block down (unless there's going to be an overhead attack with pikes). There needs to be a way to simply make them more effective.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on November 27, 2013, 04:23:30 am
There should obviously be an overhead attack with pikes, since the main attack for pikes was overhead. Pikewall vs. pikewall, blocking pikes was hard, overhead thrusts were favored because they were direct to the head, and many pikemen had open faced helmets or morions, some even cavaliers and berets. So, it was easier to stab your enemy in the head, then to try and stab through his thick armor, or hit his legs...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 27, 2013, 05:37:16 am
There should obviously be an overhead attack with pikes, since the main attack for pikes was overhead. Pikewall vs. pikewall, blocking pikes was hard, overhead thrusts were favored because they were direct to the head, and many pikemen had open faced helmets or morions, some even cavaliers and berets. So, it was easier to stab your enemy in the head, then to try and stab through his thick armor, or hit his legs...

An extremely common tactic was to have a stationary pike wall that did not move at all, and just let the enemy charge into them. They would not thrust or jab whatsoever, and were most effective against cavalry. These pikemen were often combined with musketeers to form a Tercio formation, and these musketeers made up the shock and fire of it.

In that tactic, what Colbac says is true because there would be no thrusting involved. However, in The Deluge there was an option to brace your pike, and it would do damage if you ran at it at a certain speed (only really meant to work against cav). If that could be implemented it'd be cool.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on November 27, 2013, 09:20:56 am
Pikemen almost never got into prolonged melee, and if they made contact the first row of would die and then usually the less determined side would break and run for it. And if they really got that close they would start using short swords instead of pikes. Pikes during this time were meant to protect musketeers from cavalry and to deter enemy pikes from attacking.

Could you also do it as it is in Vikingr were you drop the pike/spear when you pull out a secondary?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Olafson on November 27, 2013, 10:23:24 am
Well, if you add pikes, they should be very effective against cavalry, and make squares actually usefull.
Atleast if you incorporate the musket/bayonet crouch down system that automatically kills a horse when it comes close. It does not work too well in NW, because horses can easily jump over or run by, but with pikes that should be much harder.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 27, 2013, 12:15:22 pm
You allready can't block with a pike in our mod. And with overhead and normal trust attack. It would be too easy to charge pikes if they have only one attack direction.
And the crouch down system we use as well. Would make no sense if we don't use it for the pikes! :)

I had the idea as well, when you pull out your secondary weapon, that you drop your lance/pike/halberd.

Pikemen got nearly only in melee against other pikemen. No cavalry officer would have been that stupid to charge against those formations. Against pike formations they made the caracole (ride towards it, fire their guns, retreat & recharge, ride back, fire guns, retreat & recharge, e.t.c). But after the swedes entered the war, they changed the ratio between pikes and muskets (1:3) to have bigger firepower on the battlefield. Then cavalry reestablished charges with cold steel, because caracole against musketeers was not sucessfull.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on November 27, 2013, 01:49:15 pm
I got a question about bracing, how is it tweaked? does it do damage now against pretty much anyone?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Ripoll on November 27, 2013, 02:27:45 pm
can you make the pikes, armas to carash when in combat, like the deluge. and will be nice if you have a cahange of beeing kicked from the horse when you receive damage
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 27, 2013, 02:33:58 pm
I had the idea as well, when you pull out your secondary weapon, that you drop your lance/pike/halberd.

Stoooooolen from The Deluge. :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on November 27, 2013, 02:46:24 pm
Na, just being realistic. Never played The Deluge!  :o
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Feldsau on November 27, 2013, 03:36:47 pm
can you make the pikes, armas to carash when in combat, like the deluge. and will be nice if you have a cahange of beeing kicked from the horse when you receive damage

Would be nice indeed, but that´s lots of coding work to do...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Ripoll on November 27, 2013, 04:16:21 pm
Na, just being realistic. Never played The Deluge!  :o

you must play it, it's one of the best (mp) mods for warband
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 27, 2013, 10:21:39 pm
I had the idea as well, when you pull out your secondary weapon, that you drop your lance/pike/halberd.

Stoooooolen from The Deluge. :D

That feature is in countless mods aside from The Deluge.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Ripoll on December 02, 2013, 06:19:12 pm
any news?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 02, 2013, 07:06:31 pm
I have finished some new swords for habsburg and uniforms for the austrian pikemen. There are just some units missing, but those units are cuirassiers, and we dont have a modeler who can make a nice cuirassier model :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on December 02, 2013, 07:32:25 pm
I take it the ones from NW are too modern/fiddily to recycle for the era?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 02, 2013, 07:34:17 pm
yes
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on December 02, 2013, 07:42:32 pm
Damn.

Have you considering shooting off a PM to the guys behind Twilight Of The Sun King? they don't mind their assets being used in mods :).
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Ripoll on December 02, 2013, 07:50:32 pm
I have finished some new swords for habsburg and uniforms for the austrian pikemen. There are just some units missing, but those units are cuirassiers, and we dont have a modeler who can make a nice cuirassier model :(

i read you ahve the right to use fire and sword skins, use the swedish or mercenary ones, at least a morrion is a morrion and a cuirass is a cuirass xD
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on December 02, 2013, 07:55:39 pm
I take it the ones from NW are too modern/fiddily to recycle for the era?

I don't think you quite understand the complexity of the Imperial Cuirassier's cuirass:

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The Swedes called them 'Lobsters'  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Willhelm on December 02, 2013, 08:02:27 pm
Pretty sure the English called them Lobsters. Cuirassiers were just like Knights without the baggage.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on December 02, 2013, 09:04:10 pm
Just knights without lances and with pistols. Right!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wolff on December 02, 2013, 09:15:51 pm
I take it the ones from NW are too modern/fiddily to recycle for the era?

I don't think you quite understand the complexity of the Imperial Cuirassier's cuirass:

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi277.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk50%2FDstaberg%2FVist%2520to%2520Stockholm%2Fcuirassier_suit_am.jpg&hash=2ef225c79bdc504757a42507850b6c868fd611c2)
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The Swedes called them 'Lobsters'  :P

well, could take the wfas models...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on December 02, 2013, 09:19:10 pm
I take it the ones from NW are too modern/fiddily to recycle for the era?

I don't think you quite understand the complexity of the Imperial Cuirassier's cuirass:

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi277.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk50%2FDstaberg%2FVist%2520to%2520Stockholm%2Fcuirassier_suit_am.jpg&hash=2ef225c79bdc504757a42507850b6c868fd611c2)
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The Swedes called them 'Lobsters'  :P

well, could take the wfas models...

Yeah, the Reiter model kind of resembles it if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on December 03, 2013, 03:34:20 am
The Reiter armor is the exact same thing as a cuirassier armor in WFaS. WFaS had so many awesome models for uniforms, including the awesome German Pikemen Mercenaries and Regulars, German Musketeer Regulars, and the Rondartschieren as well.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on December 03, 2013, 08:03:01 am
No the Reiters use the Half-Armor and a Zischagge (helmet) as protection, but there is still a lobster armor called Black-Armor in the game. But all WFaS armors have a really weird lighting effect compared to NW ones. But we will implement some of course.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Olafson on December 03, 2013, 10:23:34 am
No the Reiters use the Half-Armor and a Zischagge (helmet) as protection, but there is still a lobster armor called Black-Armor in the game. But all WFaS armors have a really weird lighting effect compared to NW ones. But we will implement some of course.

Remember that we wrote tons of custom shaders for NW. To get the best looking results, you should switch to NW shaders and use these instead. Warband shaders do not have Environment maps, color specular and bump mapping in a single shader. We also tweaked the already existent shaders, such as bump mapping. If you apply the right shaders, and use them right, you can get great results.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on December 03, 2013, 01:21:36 pm
No the Reiters use the Half-Armor and a Zischagge (helmet) as protection, but there is still a lobster armor called Black-Armor in the game. But all WFaS armors have a really weird lighting effect compared to NW ones. But we will implement some of course.

Remember that we wrote tons of custom shaders for NW. To get the best looking results, you should switch to NW shaders and use these instead. Warband shaders do not have Environment maps, color specular and bump mapping in a single shader. We also tweaked the already existent shaders, such as bump mapping. If you apply the right shaders, and use them right, you can get great results.
You need to write that Karantukki, I don't know anything about that! :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Gokiller on December 03, 2013, 02:43:32 pm
Olaf if possible, can you put the name of the NW shaders down somewhere? I'm sure these guys aren't the only onces that would like to know them. ^^
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on December 03, 2013, 05:04:38 pm
A possible suggestion, if you can in the future I don't suppose you can have some common looking firearms for the rabble whilst the Officers wield some slightly nicer decorative looking swords and firearms?

A pretty minor thing I know since you are still putting the basics together but a good thing to consider for the future ;).
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on December 03, 2013, 05:18:06 pm
A possible suggestion, if you can in the future I don't suppose you can have some common looking firearms for the rabble whilst the Officers wield some slightly nicer decorative looking swords and firearms?

A pretty minor thing I know since you are still putting the basics together but a good thing to consider for the future ;).

That sounds a bit too mid 18th century for a 17th century mod.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Olafson on December 03, 2013, 05:21:17 pm
Olaf if possible, can you put the name of the NW shaders down somewhere? I'm sure these guys aren't the only onces that would like to know them. ^^

Just check the NW materials and meshes, and how we applied them.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 03, 2013, 08:00:53 pm
Sorry Olafson, i tried some shaders but the uniform/texture itself looks very strange.

Here is a screenshot of the WfaS cuirassier armor in CoW:

- The helmets are not "compatible" with the armour
- The pistol is also not "compatible"
- The buckle on the shoulders of the armor float about the armour, and they are just two black squares with the buckletexture.
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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/03.12.13/hv8gye4w7fee.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on December 03, 2013, 09:50:58 pm
Century of War's abbreviation is CoW, i'll admit i chuckled a bit  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: kpetschulat on December 04, 2013, 02:32:17 am
Here is a screenshot of the WfaS cuirassier armor in CoW:

- The helmets are not "compatible" with the armour
- The pistol is also not "compatible"
- The buckle on the shoulders of the armor float about the armour, and they are just two black squares with the buckletexture.
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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/03.12.13/hv8gye4w7fee.jpg)
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It looks fine to me. They are such minor discrepancies, I don't think it would really matter... It still looks great.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Carson on December 04, 2013, 03:25:34 am
Good luck! Hope this mod comes through.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Olafson on December 04, 2013, 12:32:28 pm
I do not really get what you mean with the buckles. That is either a rigging or a mesh problem, it has nothing to do with shaders. (Unless you selected a flora or sail shader, which I hope you did not..) Send me your brf and textures and I will take a look.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 04, 2013, 04:29:43 pm
I do not really get what you mean with the buckles. That is either a rigging or a mesh problem, it has nothing to do with shaders. (Unless you selected a flora or sail shader, which I hope you did not..) Send me your brf and textures and I will take a look.

Of course its not a porblem of the shader, the shaders are alright. As you said, its a mesh problem.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: WVO on December 04, 2013, 04:40:46 pm
In the TaleWorlds there is a BNL Eighty Years War mod and its dead, but it became OSP, you can look it up at the Mount & Blade (not Warband) section of TaleWorlds (they have Warband version but they never thought of getting a Warband section).
You might create Netherlands with this shouldnt be hard work.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on December 04, 2013, 04:49:34 pm
Oh god another nationalist.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Gokiller on December 04, 2013, 04:51:51 pm
Oh god another nationalist.
If you think he is a Dutch nationalist then you are dead wrong. He is bringing up a valid point. They probably could use assets from that mod.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on December 04, 2013, 04:54:30 pm
I got more the assumption that he's a nationalist from his signature and text under the avatar.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: WVO on December 04, 2013, 05:03:21 pm
I have changed my avatar if you finded the flag too offensive.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on December 04, 2013, 05:04:43 pm
I have changed my avatar if you finded the flag too offensive.
Ah! So you are a Boer nationalist, nice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on December 04, 2013, 05:07:08 pm
I have changed my avatar if you finded the flag too offensive.
Please I didn't find anything offensive. You can have any avatar you want.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Tor on December 06, 2013, 01:19:02 pm
The modifications thread is always thick with nationalism, and the lighter smell of patriotism from Jdf. :P

Sent from the Polish Space Station via my TOASTER279071.999(?)


Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 06, 2013, 04:34:04 pm
 :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on December 06, 2013, 05:22:37 pm
Not true poland cannot into space.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 06, 2013, 05:31:44 pm
Just shut up.

And it's 'Poland' not 'poland'.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on December 06, 2013, 05:38:30 pm
wow you're stepped on your toes easily.

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on December 06, 2013, 06:10:37 pm
No. Back to mod talk. This looks like a fun mod.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on December 06, 2013, 06:39:09 pm
Yes, it does.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 08, 2013, 11:29:28 am
Ok, I asked the Eighty Years war mod for some of their uniforms, what do you think about this cuirassier?

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/08.12.13/2hpnxzwzgc8p.jpg)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: CharlesVasser on December 08, 2013, 11:38:48 am
Looks fancy but i cant judge if it is historicly accurate.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Jelly on December 08, 2013, 12:37:44 pm
Looks great to me.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Willhelm on December 08, 2013, 01:16:23 pm
I believe that is 16th century though.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on December 08, 2013, 01:22:38 pm
Looks really sexy.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 08, 2013, 01:59:24 pm
yeah its not 100% historical accurate, but as I said before, i dont have the skill to model a cuirassier armor. :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on December 08, 2013, 02:06:37 pm
yeah its not 100% historical accurate, but as I said before, i dont have the skill to model a cuirassier armor. :(
Looks fine to me but isn't there any naitive stuff you could use? Or any OSP:s from taleworlds?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on December 08, 2013, 02:24:07 pm
Sorry for double post.

Couldn't you try and work with something like this?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,119352.0.html

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,100949.0.html

With some tweaking you could make it look like this:
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi9.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa89%2FCaptain_Gars1632%2FJunkelmann_krassierb-1.jpg&hash=c17ac22fa81176438e9e226572253f9cbaa0a600)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: #LionCarry on December 08, 2013, 02:44:31 pm
Didn't the Spanish fought the Dutchies as well? or is that in a different time periode
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: TORN on December 08, 2013, 03:28:30 pm
same period different war ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on December 08, 2013, 04:16:43 pm
Ok, I asked the Eighty Years war mod for some of their uniforms, what do you think about this cuirassier?

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/08.12.13/2hpnxzwzgc8p.jpg)
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Don't like this, this is really too early fashion for this mod. And 2nd the helmet would make no sense on this kind of armor, because he couldn't be bolt on it, as he should.

The armor from WFaS is still the best we current have!

Sorry for double post.

Couldn't you try and work with something like this?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,119352.0.html

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,100949.0.html

With some tweaking you could make it look like this:
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Hm, that's sadly only stuff from the late medieval period. All about late 14th until end 15th century! :/

Didn't the Spanish fought the Dutchies as well? or is that in a different time periode
The Thirty Years' War was part of the Eighty Years' War. Both ended with the Peace of Westphalia 1648.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Sweeney on December 19, 2013, 07:49:21 pm
Not that Sweden wouldn't be a nice faction- but I do believe that the Danish King Christian IV had the leadership of the "protestant"-armies. Even though he sucked ***** and lost so much(And was a terrible king in Denmark)-he did afterall have the leadership.
He lost because of the great outnumbering "catholic" armies- but the northern armies fought well, which led to large casualty-numbers on each side. Fortunately for the "protestants" was that the Swedish king, Gustavus Adolphus II, came in when the war was at it's worst.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wismar on December 19, 2013, 07:55:54 pm
Gustav II Adolf didn't get the nickname "lion of the north" without any reason.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on December 19, 2013, 09:09:17 pm
Not that Sweden wouldn't be a nice faction- but I do believe that the Danish King Christian IV had the leadership of the "protestant"-armies.

You mean the guy who switched sides and fought with the catholics just to be a nuisance to Sweden?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on December 20, 2013, 11:57:36 am
So uh, hows the development going?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on December 20, 2013, 01:35:10 pm
So uh, hows the development going?

I still looking for a Cuirassier model or someone who can make me one.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Furrnox on December 20, 2013, 01:40:29 pm
Ask Hinkel or Beta or Atilla?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on January 10, 2014, 07:55:05 pm
Any update on this? :o
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on January 10, 2014, 08:09:49 pm
Not at the moment, I am busy with Iron Europe testing and modding. The other modders are buisy with other stuff too. Maybe we start to work on this mod again in 2 or 3 weeks.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on January 10, 2014, 08:13:36 pm
Yep, closed beta of Iron Europe is running and I have much stuff for Univiersity to do. Can't do all things I want to do at the same time! :/
And we still have not solved the problem with the cuirassier armor!  :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wigster600 on January 16, 2014, 01:35:02 pm
Just thinking, you could ask the makers of awesome yet forgotten mod the Deluge for stuff.  :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Waterbeetle on January 16, 2014, 01:35:55 pm
Just thinking, you could ask the makers of awesome yet forgotten mod the Deluge for stuff.  :D

The mod developers are back and working again.  :)
So I do not think they're going to give something.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wigster600 on January 16, 2014, 01:39:31 pm
Just thinking, you could ask the makers of awesome yet forgotten mod the Deluge for stuff.  :D

The mod developers are back and working again.  :)
So I do not think they're going to give something.
They are?!  :D
 
Screw this mod then.  :P

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jks bby pls no h8 mi  :'(
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Turin Turambar on March 23, 2014, 02:04:47 am
Any news about the development?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: nikochoki on April 15, 2014, 05:49:34 pm
is the mod live?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on April 15, 2014, 09:57:52 pm
Well, i still need a coder to finish the mod, last days a friend tried to add the features i want for the mod but he failed. Maybe i will find another one.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on April 15, 2014, 10:07:43 pm
Might as well try and make the final push man.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on April 28, 2014, 08:46:33 am
Good news, Noel, our new coder managed to make an important script for us. We just need some more annimations and uniforms to release the mod.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Xaime on April 28, 2014, 09:24:45 am
:D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Furrnox on April 28, 2014, 01:20:59 pm
Good news, Noel, our new coder managed to make an important script for us. We just need some more annimations and uniforms to release the mod.
Sweet :D Can't wait to fight for my fatherland Sweden.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on April 28, 2014, 05:47:30 pm
Excellent, looking forward to the release already.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on May 02, 2014, 06:21:01 pm
Here some sceenshots of a new map i am working at:

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/02.05.14/4irlmcnwetql.png)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 02, 2014, 06:22:32 pm
Here some sceenshots of a new map i am working at:

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/02.05.14/4irlmcnwetql.png)
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Damn, that looks fantastic. Thanks for the update m8.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Gokiller on May 02, 2014, 07:22:14 pm
Those new props look amazing.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: EdwardC on May 03, 2014, 06:48:52 am
Here some sceenshots of a new map i am working at:

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(https://www7.pic-upload.de/02.05.14/4irlmcnwetql.png)
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It's F&S reborn.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on May 03, 2014, 12:33:23 pm
Here another Screenshot for you:

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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598161395650661506%2F406B5F430BB9578BD878EB173DF65C20BC8A2484%2F&hash=17ff8f2c73d12688c4d7eef698db4b4430b6546b)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Olafson on May 03, 2014, 12:51:47 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on May 03, 2014, 02:05:34 pm
Thanks, I created a steamgroup, please join it so you can get updaets and announcements.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/thecenturyofwar
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Wolff on May 03, 2014, 02:07:12 pm
Here another Screenshot for you:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598161395650661506%2F406B5F430BB9578BD878EB173DF65C20BC8A2484%2F&hash=17ff8f2c73d12688c4d7eef698db4b4430b6546b)
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great thats working now
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 04, 2014, 03:15:47 am
KArantukki keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: EdwardC on May 04, 2014, 05:17:04 am
Here another Screenshot for you:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598161395650661506%2F406B5F430BB9578BD878EB173DF65C20BC8A2484%2F&hash=17ff8f2c73d12688c4d7eef698db4b4430b6546b)
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Don't stop, keep on going.  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Killington on May 04, 2014, 05:37:09 am
Here another Screenshot for you:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598161395650661506%2F406B5F430BB9578BD878EB173DF65C20BC8A2484%2F&hash=17ff8f2c73d12688c4d7eef698db4b4430b6546b)
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Nice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on May 04, 2014, 09:55:38 pm
Weren't the unipods staked into the ground? Why is he holding it upright? Or, is that mid-animation?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Romulus on May 04, 2014, 10:10:04 pm
Looks very well done, I'll definitely be following this.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on May 06, 2014, 02:31:27 am
So excited to see my new scene props ingame!  :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: EdwardC on May 07, 2014, 04:23:38 am
If you need any extra ideas check this film out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR38IsO032Q
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 07, 2014, 04:29:21 am
If you need any extra ideas check this film out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR38IsO032Q

Ah, great film. Unfortunately there aren't very many movies about the thirty years war or the 17th century at all, but this is very well written and acted, although the Captain's accent is a little off. Good stuff.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Martos on May 07, 2014, 08:37:28 pm
A little suggestion, i think you should add Montenegro to your mod, it played a major role in the 30 years war.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Hammerstout on May 07, 2014, 08:46:36 pm
Agovic please go.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 07, 2014, 08:46:51 pm
A little suggestion, i think you should add Montenegro to your mod, it played a major role in the 30 years war.
+1
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Kalitorian on May 07, 2014, 11:45:01 pm
Agovic has renamed his account?

KArantukki told me in ts today that he will introduce Spain. All Spaniards rejoice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on May 08, 2014, 01:17:13 am
SAPIN HURAH
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Moldplayer on May 08, 2014, 04:04:18 am
Good luck, one of the more interesting looking mods out there.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: William on May 08, 2014, 04:16:35 am
I'm not sure if this has been discussed but will there be a single player?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Audiate on May 08, 2014, 04:20:12 am
is nw mod u nub

pls releese now pls thx
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 08, 2014, 05:05:30 am
I'm currently getting double teamed by podcasts talking about 17th century


plz pl0x release now before these podcasts penetrate thx
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on May 08, 2014, 10:19:45 am
We, the dev team, will discuss today or the next days a beta testing event. Until now we tried only commander battle internal with some friends. As we were part of the beta testing team of Iron Europe, we learned our lesson from there and want to prevent a disaster (for the players) as the release event of IE was. Of course we don't take so much efforts in the mod with coding stuff like IE does (we just started in October 2013), we take in account that IE is another dimension than The Century of War is. But we want to make sure that the mod runs fluent at release! :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Furrnox on May 08, 2014, 01:15:05 pm
Sounds good.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Friedrich on May 08, 2014, 08:36:13 pm
sneak peak:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F486698014758188732%2F94C56D33E92B9A9A6585376EE24DE3238055E26A%2F&hash=37fb063751c33a3aa6d41acb628107f19ececff7)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F486698014758714679%2F0F7C74158AD74EBFBB6B8A35ADF38E6D808D63EC%2F&hash=c37ebddf4c3631885b0245fc0be28b1840e40541)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F486698014758717065%2FEACB91524E67A0CD167E499161DE3D1A476CC92A%2F&hash=15ddfcf8bd516ed02d61eebf3d24e7753c449e0f)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 08, 2014, 08:38:02 pm
sneak peak:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F486698014758188732%2F94C56D33E92B9A9A6585376EE24DE3238055E26A%2F&hash=37fb063751c33a3aa6d41acb628107f19ececff7)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F486698014758714679%2F0F7C74158AD74EBFBB6B8A35ADF38E6D808D63EC%2F&hash=c37ebddf4c3631885b0245fc0be28b1840e40541)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F486698014758717065%2FEACB91524E67A0CD167E499161DE3D1A476CC92A%2F&hash=15ddfcf8bd516ed02d61eebf3d24e7753c449e0f)
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Dat star fort


I can just imagine a huge force attacking that and a horrible, organized crossfire from the ramparts
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 08, 2014, 09:03:08 pm
THIS MOD LOOKS REALLY IMPRESSIVE

LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAYING IT

GREAT HISTORICAL ERA ASWELL

pls release soon
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on May 08, 2014, 11:34:56 pm
The Beta event will probably be on the 23rd, we will see if the mod is balanced and playable. :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on May 08, 2014, 11:42:50 pm
Here's to the coming of the Dutch!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Unit and Map on Pg.23)
Post by: KArantukki on May 09, 2014, 06:29:44 pm
Screenshots of the new map (Frisian Church)

Day Version
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F594784405848238238%2F8B0F054ADEC55D24E961FE827B9BC24A9D0FFF01%2F&hash=be7385d320d5b70cef2358aede68f4da8279e6ea)
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Foggy evening Version
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F594784405848241594%2F173CC1D32F594A340AB74710DF804BF2B1F2AB6D%2F&hash=fb0ab36261c1105d09279d2e264856f6f07d81f9)
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Day Version
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F594784405848235758%2F86F2BF701F325CFDEC52C7AF8F8B3F90734CD9E5%2F&hash=32a4552aee94ba1c092ae2f1ab89fc3dca5718e8)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Ne Map on Pg.36)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 09, 2014, 06:32:09 pm
Ahhh that looks so good.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Ne Map on Pg.36)
Post by: Maximus Decimus Meridius on May 09, 2014, 06:42:57 pm
Ohh yeah thats look very nice  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Ne Map on Pg.36)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 09, 2014, 06:46:37 pm
Gib nao pls
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Ne Map on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 09, 2014, 08:14:45 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QWh1RzSn4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Gokiller on May 09, 2014, 08:22:02 pm
Great work Kara!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 09, 2014, 08:33:23 pm
Amazing!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 09, 2014, 08:57:49 pm
Add me as chocolate Supporter :P
Spoiler
http://youtu.be/HQeCcLnbk90
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 09, 2014, 10:32:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwamV1fbYQk
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 09, 2014, 10:42:50 pm
Great Trailer, can't wait to play on public sever for this mod.  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 09, 2014, 11:09:33 pm
Does the gun rest increase accuracy?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 09, 2014, 11:17:41 pm
Give the Austrians some Swiss Mercenarys pls.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Xaime on May 10, 2014, 12:07:54 am
Looking Good!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: PortaWestfalica on May 10, 2014, 09:04:06 am
Cool thing, but are there new sapper constructions?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Noel on May 10, 2014, 09:34:23 am
Does the gun rest increase accuracy?
Yes is does.
but it still needs some belance^^
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 10, 2014, 11:41:31 am
Cool thing, but are there new sapper constructions?

Yes there are, stupidly i forgot to show them in our video. :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 10, 2014, 04:00:16 pm
Can you rebind the key to attach the unipod? Because my hotkey for teamspeak is V and for a lot of others to.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 10, 2014, 04:20:15 pm
This mod is too awesome!!!!!!!
For Info: I live near the "Burg Habsburg" in Switzerland :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Rutger Müller on May 10, 2014, 04:23:32 pm
yeah i use V for looking around as a substitute for ~
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 10, 2014, 04:30:25 pm
I added Poll
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Rutger Müller on May 10, 2014, 04:31:47 pm
just a heads up you put B in twice
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 10, 2014, 04:34:51 pm
I voted. Tbh anything that's not V im fine with.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 10, 2014, 11:24:12 pm
Maybe this unit:
Spoiler
Reisläufer:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F52%2FReislaeufer_Luzerner_Schilling.jpg&hash=9098abff4ccefcf5862542b371e5373a06594f3b)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F08%2FNiklaus_Manuel_1553.jpg&hash=b065bd4a9230141616eee01656656e8aacc30591)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 10, 2014, 11:37:05 pm
Maybe this unit:
Spoiler
Reisläufer:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F52%2FReislaeufer_Luzerner_Schilling.jpg&hash=9098abff4ccefcf5862542b371e5373a06594f3b)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F0%2F08%2FNiklaus_Manuel_1553.jpg&hash=b065bd4a9230141616eee01656656e8aacc30591)
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Find some accurate pictures, and we can talk about. But these are too early! :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 10, 2014, 11:38:12 pm
I voted. Tbh anything that's not V im fine with.

what kind of noob uses V as a hotkey for ts

just use mouse button 5 or 4
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 10, 2014, 11:44:01 pm
Is this accurate enough?
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20110530185308%2Fdeadliestfiction%2Fimages%2F7%2F7c%2FSwissGuard.jpg&hash=0d8a186e054706af4faa5e637f1ebca7c9a2f51e)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 10, 2014, 11:52:57 pm
Hehe, thats the modern day Papal Guard thats constitutes 40% of the Vatican city's population
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 11, 2014, 12:05:48 am

Hehe, thats the modern day Papal Guard thats constitutes 40% of the Vatican city's population
the uniform didn't change anytime.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 11, 2014, 12:11:32 am

Hehe, thats the modern day Papal Guard thats constitutes 40% of the Vatican city's population
the uniform didn't change anytime.

Yes, but how important were the swiss mercs?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 11, 2014, 12:36:57 am
Swiss Mercenaries and Swiss/Papal Guards are two very different things.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 11, 2014, 01:58:25 am
Is this accurate enough?
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20110530185308%2Fdeadliestfiction%2Fimages%2F7%2F7c%2FSwissGuard.jpg&hash=0d8a186e054706af4faa5e637f1ebca7c9a2f51e)
The current uniform of the Papal Guard was made 1914 after 16th century models.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 11, 2014, 02:08:34 am
Sorry, but why would Papal Guards be included in the first place? They weren't necessarily combatants...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 11, 2014, 02:09:13 am
Sorry, but why would Papal Guards be included in the first place? They weren't necessarily combatants...
But but Catholicism
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 11, 2014, 02:09:35 am
Sorry, but why would Papal Guards be included in the first place? They weren't necessarily combatants...
But but Catholicism

no u
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Gizmo on May 11, 2014, 02:12:09 am
muh catholicism
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 11, 2014, 02:12:59 am
Wow

Much inquisition

So indulgence
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 11, 2014, 08:43:31 am
Is this better?
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbattleofpavia.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F11%2Flandsknecht.jpg&hash=428f45638010770545ad4c8790600d4e848d1996)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 11, 2014, 12:02:51 pm
Still early 16th century...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 12:39:59 pm
#Reformation
#Muh freedoms
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 11, 2014, 01:17:55 pm
Something like this:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flarpwiki.de%2Fuploads%2Flapping_arkebusier.jpg&hash=3ef6ab9bd68d97a2c72c1225c12d66309d10f6cb)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 01:22:13 pm
How about something fancy? Like this.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20130426185141%2Fwarhammerfb%2Fimages%2Fc%2Fcf%2FWarhammer-empire.jpg&hash=a8cb380a3eb69a946efd0287e62c48b2266b1d07)

Ignore the Beastmen  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 11, 2014, 04:45:06 pm
Yorkshire should be its own faction :D FREE YORKSHIRE

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F9%2F90%2FFlagOfYorkshire.svg&hash=77592fd7a875312aa99dcc6a5d7de16e0b808528)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 05:02:19 pm
Yorkshire should be its own faction :D FREE YORKSHIRE

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F9%2F90%2FFlagOfYorkshire.svg&hash=77592fd7a875312aa99dcc6a5d7de16e0b808528)
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For Rose And Raven!
#FreeYorkshire
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Jelly on May 11, 2014, 05:32:06 pm
Yorkshire should be its own faction :D FREE YORKSHIRE

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F9%2F90%2FFlagOfYorkshire.svg&hash=77592fd7a875312aa99dcc6a5d7de16e0b808528)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 05:37:07 pm
Jelly is only mad because whenever he trys to make Yorkshire puddings they come out the consistency of his name.  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: William on May 11, 2014, 05:44:36 pm
Maybe there is something useful in here, probably not, but oh well.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F4%2F40%2FBatalla_de_rocroi_por_Augusto_Ferrer-Dalmau.jpg&hash=fb75d99182d3a5db6145c002feb7a4cb52814ed6)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PrbQfi3rwEU/UM5-DVYI9jI/AAAAAAAAAA8/3Scs6jEJkNI/s1600/a003056.jpg)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_tqUDtO7YA0U%2FTKsPtGST5_I%2FAAAAAAAAAKw%2FRJGs-A_wz1k%2Fs1600%2Fgravelinas%2BL1.jpg&hash=b46aaf2650ab2b7a6afd66251e467fd175dec352)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-G1-8zLkE4zw%2FUllO2qUSVBI%2FAAAAAAAAFTM%2FtGMGZJkRlPk%2Fs1600%2FThirty%2Byear%2Bwar.jpg&hash=ba8479eaf8e9df7225199bbcd25f8d3c8bb4b383)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg543.imageshack.us%2Fimg543%2F4218%2Fvucs.jpg&hash=715cf43e4065f138698b5425129ef0eb629576f0)
Rittmeister cuirassier regiment of Graf Pappenheim
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg856.imageshack.us%2Fimg856%2F8058%2F3ehv.jpg&hash=4e02d5293f919fea14662664e6b747b73dafe87b)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.imageshack.us%2Fimg535%2F2103%2Fejrcitosimperialesguerr.jpg&hash=5406506d8c80956ae7ce3b788a569a0128f01898)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.imageshack.us%2Fimg51%2F885%2Fconquistador.jpg&hash=f69dfe7b839fa49b8506072f3e8609966320ef2a)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg43.imageshack.us%2Fimg43%2F7169%2Fcaballeraespaolaenhungr.jpg&hash=896d701843f83e48634b762975b4da7a1dbfa090)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg801.imageshack.us%2Fimg801%2F6203%2Fcavalieronawhitehorseby.jpg&hash=2468f0329d175e5c331f0dab61cca742cfb26a0c)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg834.imageshack.us%2Fimg834%2F7042%2Fcromwelliansoldiersleav.jpg&hash=485899bf1e8dbb9039fa184c1adc7ec4222e9713)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg837.imageshack.us%2Fimg837%2F2783%2F7eae.jpg&hash=b0f07265adf3286ecd3a4d9b25ae5f01defe046d)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg7.imageshack.us%2Fimg7%2F8929%2F1ex2.jpg&hash=6410859d96dd25795def622487ffab95b689855b)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg845.imageshack.us%2Fimg845%2F8638%2Fkltn.jpg&hash=7c1546d6e09fdc585575aaeadedafd6b9752b92a)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg22.imageshack.us%2Fimg22%2F4792%2Fhl7k.jpg&hash=30e69becaf62a03a455bbbac368305a9220f8d0d)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg198.imageshack.us%2Fimg198%2F2923%2Fr4g0.jpg&hash=1f7c30ff7b0ab15ec33da29628b9baebbad22f01)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Jelly on May 11, 2014, 05:52:08 pm
Jelly is only mad because whenever he trys to make Yorkshire puddings they come out the consistency of his name.  :P
Don't remind me... :'(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 05:54:06 pm
Jelly is only mad because whenever he trys to make Yorkshire puddings they come out the consistency of his name.  :P
Don't remind me... :'(
Great Yorkshire Pudding Famine of 2014.
#Neverforget  :'(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
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Good stuff. A lot of these are painted by Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau, a Spanish contemporary hyper-realist artist. He's done some fantastic work.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Furrnox on May 11, 2014, 09:07:43 pm
Why so few breastplates :/ ?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 09:27:13 pm
Why so few breastplates :/ ?
Because they can't afford them?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Suede on May 11, 2014, 09:53:09 pm
I'll suggest this proto-gatling gun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki1_-T7huhU&t=24m38s) ::)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: regwilliam on May 11, 2014, 10:58:18 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625iTKITRoA[/youtube]

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 11, 2014, 11:10:10 pm
Ew, frogs and spanish people.  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Moldplayer on May 12, 2014, 12:03:36 am
Why so few breastplates :/ ?
Musketeers did not wear armour. Pikemen would have them if they could afford them. But also armour use in general went down, in the begining of the war the Spainish currasiers wore full suits of armour but by the middle of the conflict they only had demi-armour.

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Moldplayer on May 12, 2014, 12:04:16 am
Why so few breastplates :/ ?
Musketeers did not wear armour. Pikemen would have them if they could afford them. But also armour use in general went down, as an example in the begining of the war the Spainish currasiers wore full suits of armour but by the middle of the conflict they only had demi-armour.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Furrnox on May 12, 2014, 12:18:23 am
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 12, 2014, 12:25:19 am
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625iTKITRoA[/youtube]

Gotta love those bastards who go under the phalanx and stab at the feet.


Warning for the video below.
Spoiler
It's even more Amazing!
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The Siege:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh_yTV8r-W0
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 12, 2014, 12:36:44 am
Bear in mind 1612 is a fantasy film.  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 12, 2014, 02:25:48 am
To be fair, we will focus on western europe. The eastern theatre is allready playable for Warband with a DLC and a mod! :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 12, 2014, 02:34:05 am
Any chance you could release some screenshots of the Bewaffnete Bürger or any other milita/partisan units you'll be including? :3

Also, might some novelty unit like the Priest in B&I be included? For instance something like religious fanatics from Medieval II: Total War -

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on May 12, 2014, 02:35:55 am
To be fair, we will focus on western europe. The eastern theatre is allready playable for Warband with a DLC and a mod! :P

May you be shanked by a Winged Hussar my good man.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Cornwallis on May 12, 2014, 10:31:21 pm
I have two more Unit Ideas, some German troops. I hope you like them. I really love the first one (Brandenburg Leibtrabanten). 

Spoiler
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 12, 2014, 10:53:29 pm
I have a small complaint, since it seems you have finalised the roster, you have kinda forgotten the Swedish regiments.

As you probably know, the Blue and Yellow brigades were a majority German, with only 2 or 3 companies being completly Swedish.  Along with the fact that the two other regiments aren't swedish either (Scots and Germans) and the only real Swedish unit on the Swedish roster is the Smålands cavalry.

Could you maybe have one of the true Swedish regiments in there? Like the Dalregementet which was in the Oxienstierna Brigad.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 12, 2014, 11:27:51 pm
I need pictures  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 12, 2014, 11:54:03 pm
I have a small complaint, since it seems you have finalised the roster, you have kinda forgotten the Swedish regiments.

As you probably know, the Blue and Yellow brigades were a majority German, with only 2 or 3 companies being completly Swedish.  Along with the fact that the two other regiments aren't swedish either (Scots and Germans) and the only real Swedish unit on the Swedish roster is the Smålands cavalry.

Could you maybe have one of the true Swedish regiments in there? Like the Dalregementet which was in the Oxienstierna Brigad.
To be honest, we didn't know that the blue or yellow brigades were in majority german. But if you send us pictures and sources, we can make of course some ethnic pure swedish infantry unit, if it would make the swedish patriots happy! :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 12, 2014, 11:54:41 pm
Will there be Ottomans/Tatars in this mod?
Or some units, like Mercenaries?

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg593.imageshack.us%2Fimg593%2F2483%2Fjanissaries17thcaveryan.jpg&hash=fa894afea1f978613d79d7d1c0e68c38a3f9892e)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 12, 2014, 11:58:53 pm
To be fair, we will focus on western europe. The eastern theatre is allready playable for Warband with a DLC and a mod! :P
Maybe we can talk about mercenaries. But when we focus on Germany and Sweden and later Dutch Republic, France and England, there is really a tiny chance for such units.
Of course the wars between Habsburg and Ottomans is a huge part of that time, but we want to focus on warfare in western Europe.

EDIT: for Ottoman units see Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword & The Deluge mod for Warband.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on May 13, 2014, 12:03:43 am
Makes more Sense to have the Ottomans and Poles over the English.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 13, 2014, 12:10:17 am
That maybe, but they have no mod for this period, and ottomans allready have an own game and an own mod. We want to be different to get players. When we share too much with other mods in themes, we have less players. Especially when we are not such a big and experienced team like The Deluge is, we don't want to compete with them, you know?

if you want Ottomans in the first place, play these games. Here we focus on western warfare.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on May 13, 2014, 12:23:29 am
But the deluge involved the Hapsburgs, and the Dutch, and the Swedes. For God's sake I can understand trying to have a different theatre of war, but at least choose a nation better than the English. For God's sake I think the Saadi Dynasty had more wars during this time period (That being said those were usually against Spain, Portugal or an African nation).

Just please replace England, if you're worried about over-representation you need look nowhere else.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Feldsau on May 13, 2014, 12:39:46 am
Habsburg and the dutch aren´t implemented in The Deluge. Only the Swedish and that´s only because of the Polish-Swedish Wars in this time.
The Deluge and Wfas are concentrated on eastern warfare and that´s okay, I personally love The Deluge, it´s imo the best Multiplayermod for Warband.
However if these guys want a western europe warfare mod, let them do their thing. If you would implement the Ottomans in a mod full of pikes and muskets, you would crash the balance or at least would have big problems to get it.
Discussing about an english faction is imo not purposeful because it will take a lot of time till this will be released. Afaik the first release only contain Sweden and Habsburg, which are relevant factions. And once this first version is released, you start again discussing about new factions.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on May 13, 2014, 12:42:55 am
The Deluge I was mentioning was the actual Deluge, not the mod.

And I see their point, I just want the best possible factions to be chosen for this, because from what I've seen so far this mod is being made extremely well.

Begs the question, what's the next faction after the 1st release gonna be? I vote the Dutch Republic because remove Pila from the premises.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 13, 2014, 12:49:12 am
Well, after the first release we will work on a Dutch nation, and after this we will see, i think of nations like Poland, France or Protestant Union.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 13, 2014, 12:52:56 am
But as it was said, first we focus on the current factions Habsburg and Sweden, scening and modelling to have a playable game. When we have achieved that, we talk about other nations. And as Feldsau mentioned, to keep a game balanced when you have on one side only slow firearms and on the other side primarily bows, is with the Warband engine a really expenditure. :/
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 13, 2014, 12:58:11 am
English Civil war units perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 13, 2014, 05:15:39 pm
I have a small complaint, since it seems you have finalised the roster, you have kinda forgotten the Swedish regiments.

As you probably know, the Blue and Yellow brigades were a majority German, with only 2 or 3 companies being completly Swedish.  Along with the fact that the two other regiments aren't swedish either (Scots and Germans) and the only real Swedish unit on the Swedish roster is the Smålands cavalry.

Could you maybe have one of the true Swedish regiments in there? Like the Dalregementet which was in the Oxienstierna Brigad.
To be honest, we didn't know that the blue or yellow brigades were in majority german. But if you send us pictures and sources, we can make of course some ethnic pure swedish infantry unit, if it would make the swedish patriots happy! :)

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Here is an example of what they were supposed to look like, but as you know the Swedish army didn't have any official uniformity in colours during the 30 years war. The Dalregements colours were blue and yellow, somewhat the same with the Sodermansland regement, pictured above.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 13, 2014, 05:19:40 pm
I have a small complaint, since it seems you have finalised the roster, you have kinda forgotten the Swedish regiments.

As you probably know, the Blue and Yellow brigades were a majority German, with only 2 or 3 companies being completly Swedish.  Along with the fact that the two other regiments aren't swedish either (Scots and Germans) and the only real Swedish unit on the Swedish roster is the Smålands cavalry.

Could you maybe have one of the true Swedish regiments in there? Like the Dalregementet which was in the Oxienstierna Brigad.
To be honest, we didn't know that the blue or yellow brigades were in majority german. But if you send us pictures and sources, we can make of course some ethnic pure swedish infantry unit, if it would make the swedish patriots happy! :)

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Here is an example of what they were supposed to look like, but as you know the Swedish army didn't have any official uniformity in colours during the 30 years war. The Dalregements colours were blue and yellow, somewhat the same with the Sodermansland regement, pictured above.
Y U NO BIGGER IMAGES?

No nation in that period had standarized uniforms or armour. But fashion was not everywere in europe the same. That we count.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 13, 2014, 05:27:14 pm
One polandball to explain it all:
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Sorry for this, we will seach for another swedish regiment wich can be added ^^
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 13, 2014, 06:02:40 pm
Yeah, can't deny we used plenty of mercenaries/other ethnicities (silly finns), but 40% of the army was Swedish :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Feldsau on May 13, 2014, 06:09:36 pm
Do you have any source for that? Because I don´t really believe that. Imo Gustav Adolf launched his operation in Germany with swedish regiments but soon replaced them with mercaneries from all Europe.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 13, 2014, 06:57:09 pm
Do you have any source for that? Because I don´t really believe that. Imo Gustav Adolf launched his operation in Germany with swedish regiments but soon replaced them with mercaneries from all Europe.

http://warfare.uphero.com/Renaissance/20&21_Swedish.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_for_the_Battle_of_Breitenfeld_%281631%29

Especially if you count the Finns/Baltics as Swedes.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 14, 2014, 04:54:17 am
To be fair, we will focus on western europe. The eastern theatre is allready playable for Warband with a DLC and a mod! :P

May you be shanked by a Winged Hussar my good man.

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Well you wish came true.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 14, 2014, 05:10:39 am
To be fair, we will focus on western europe. The eastern theatre is allready playable for Warband with a DLC and a mod! :P

May you be shanked by a Winged Hussar my good man.

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Well you wish came true.

A well drawn polandball comic? Blasphemy!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 14, 2014, 09:59:41 am
Do you have any source for that? Because I don´t really believe that. Imo Gustav Adolf launched his operation in Germany with swedish regiments but soon replaced them with mercaneries from all Europe.

http://warfare.uphero.com/Renaissance/20&21_Swedish.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_for_the_Battle_of_Breitenfeld_%281631%29

Especially if you count the Finns/Baltics as Swedes.
According to the order of the battle of Breitenfeld there are only around 20% ethnic swedish companies, or 28% with baltics and finnish included.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: AlekoTheGreek on May 14, 2014, 10:04:51 pm
A really interesting era, best of luck lads!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 14, 2014, 10:08:30 pm
Do you have any source for that? Because I don´t really believe that. Imo Gustav Adolf launched his operation in Germany with swedish regiments but soon replaced them with mercaneries from all Europe.

http://warfare.uphero.com/Renaissance/20&21_Swedish.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_for_the_Battle_of_Breitenfeld_%281631%29

Especially if you count the Finns/Baltics as Swedes.
According to the order of the battle of Breitenfeld there are only around 20% ethnic swedish companies, or 28% with baltics and finnish included.

Well 40% of the total Swedish army, including the garrison troops stationed in Sweden, Finland and the Baltics. The order of battle might have been a bad example of that.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 14, 2014, 11:20:34 pm
But imo it is stupid to count finnish and baltic troops as swedish. Would be funny to count czech as germans too, just because they were part of Habsburg. So a ratio of 20% swedish soldiers should represent it well enough.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Hazzard on May 16, 2014, 08:07:22 pm
Really though, there isn't much point going: "This is Swedish unit, this is Finnish, this is Scottish," it makes more sense to have a variety of units with specific weapons and then you choose a uniform.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 18, 2014, 08:01:17 am
This thread needs this song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtYEU1E9axI
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 18, 2014, 03:44:19 pm
There are more awesome songs like this (1500-1650):

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Edit:

New Flag animation
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 18, 2014, 07:02:00 pm
That's some good music, i enjoy music like that.
 
Trah dee rah la la la la la la la la.


Love the way that flag looks. :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 18, 2014, 07:28:48 pm
Love the way that flag looks. :)

+ Still very eager to play this mod, I'd love to organize some sort of NA event for it. ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Archduke Sven on May 18, 2014, 09:04:37 pm
Love the way that flag looks. :)

+ Still very eager to play this mod, I'd love to organize some sort of NA event for it. ;)

filthy colonial, stay away from european heritage

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 18, 2014, 11:33:18 pm
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filthy colonial, stay away from european heritage

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Already got permission from Karantikki to host a Official NA server and a Official NA event when the mod comes out  ;D. Filthy Colonial?  >:(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: George385 on May 18, 2014, 11:39:38 pm
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filthy colonial, stay away from european heritage

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Already got permission from Karantikki to host a Official NA server and a Official NA event when the mod comes out  ;D. Filthy Colonial?  >:(

yes, filthy colonial   :-*
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 18, 2014, 11:42:57 pm
Australians are worse colonials than Americans! Criminal scum bottom of the barrel flotsam rabble! GAHHHHHHH!!!!! >:(

USA best anlgos *hmmpff*
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 19, 2014, 02:34:44 am
Australians are worse colonials than Americans! Criminal scum bottom of the barrel flotsam rabble! GAHHHHHHH!!!!! >:(

USA best anlgos *hmmpff*
I'm an Anglophile

I don't like British culture or way of life, snip

plzplox
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 19, 2014, 03:57:31 am
stop
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 19, 2014, 06:46:17 am
Something good to use for a signature.


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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: 1te Garde Julianator on May 21, 2014, 03:28:08 pm
Ich hoffe der Mod wird ziemlich gut und wünsche euch gutes Gelingen.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 21, 2014, 03:32:08 pm
Ich hoffe der Mod wird ziemlich gut und wünsche euch gutes Gelingen.

Die mod*

Und aus Satzbau technischen Gründen würde ich das ziemlich weg lassen.  Ansonsten danke.  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Turin Turambar on May 21, 2014, 05:49:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtYEU1E9axI
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These two btw were written during/after WW1 and not in the Landsknecht era.

"Der Tod in Flandern" for example has this folk song manner as well but deals with the Battle of Ypres (Flandern). The melody is from the 15th century though (rheinisches Nonnentanzlied).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFh3yElSAZQ
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 21, 2014, 11:36:50 pm
Vielen Dank für die Informationen.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Friedrich on May 22, 2014, 11:02:08 pm
Some screens from the first small testing event:

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 22, 2014, 11:26:59 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Killington on May 22, 2014, 11:38:17 pm
My god, this looks amazing! :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Furrnox on May 22, 2014, 11:41:09 pm
/ Amazed <3
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Audiate on May 22, 2014, 11:50:53 pm
wow.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Feldsau on May 22, 2014, 11:57:21 pm
Was fun today, I´m looking forward to tomorrow evening:)

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 23, 2014, 12:07:41 am
Omg, those screenshots can't be described in words. I feel jealous, lucky regiments.   :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 23, 2014, 03:25:13 am
Question, is the reload animation different from NW or still the same?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: KArantukki on May 23, 2014, 06:58:13 am
Its a bit differet
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Waterbeetle on May 23, 2014, 06:58:23 pm
I'm looking for somebody intrested in helping me with the Dutch, someone who did his historical research about the 80 years war events, regiments and armies. Any other help is welcome ofcourse too!

Contact me here: steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/v0lum3d)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: DasBrot on May 23, 2014, 10:44:35 pm
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This was awesome! Great work, keep it up!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Mortem on May 23, 2014, 10:45:34 pm
AWESOME
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: DasBrot on May 23, 2014, 10:52:02 pm
AWESOME
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This is what you see from inside:

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 23, 2014, 10:54:34 pm
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598163381312592796%2FA635972141F52308FE8B0086CB1DE2D37F2FE2C7%2F&hash=cbb51ef2e27df952a4b345b79fdeb414df64ada1)
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Spoiler
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This was awesome! Great work, keep it up!

Fuckkk man that looks awesome.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Beta Event Screenshots on Pg.43/44)
Post by: Devmc99 on May 23, 2014, 11:07:24 pm
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598163381312592796%2FA635972141F52308FE8B0086CB1DE2D37F2FE2C7%2F&hash=cbb51ef2e27df952a4b345b79fdeb414df64ada1)
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Spoiler
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This was awesome! Great work, keep it up!

Really nice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Feature Preview Video on Pg.36)
Post by: EdwardC on May 24, 2014, 12:10:12 am
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-3.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F598163381312592796%2FA635972141F52308FE8B0086CB1DE2D37F2FE2C7%2F&hash=cbb51ef2e27df952a4b345b79fdeb414df64ada1)
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Spoiler
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This was awesome! Great work, keep it up!

Wish i was there, that's so majestic!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Beta Event Screenshots on Pg.43/44)
Post by: Weewum on May 24, 2014, 01:25:34 am
Are the Swedes going to get an armoured infantry unit like the Habsburgs have(Tercio)?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (New Beta Event Screenshots on Pg.43/44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 24, 2014, 01:38:21 am
maybe we will add one later,

For everyone, here is a small trailer of CoW with scenes from the Beta Event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXTVgxaW8FY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Killington on May 24, 2014, 01:44:04 am
*drool*

More. MORE.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on May 24, 2014, 01:50:31 am
It can't be described this trailer in words! I can't wait till this mod is out.  ;)

I need to get the 29th to play this!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Colonel Howe on May 24, 2014, 01:52:16 am
pike warfare will be amazing. I believe i'll get penetrated more in this game than that crazy night in Tijuana
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 24, 2014, 01:53:21 am
I want this mod to not die, so instead of regiments bringing a few people from NW to play this mod, I'd love to see clans built around this mod, with huge groups from all over joining them, to make sure (especially for NA events, EU can make do already) that events are well-populated and very interesting.

The previews--oh my god--they explain why I'd been hyped about this since the first announcement of it.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on May 24, 2014, 01:57:22 am
It'll be interesting to see how organised events play out as pikemen and musketeers need each other to stick together to not die.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Waterbeetle on May 24, 2014, 02:52:15 am
Our ModDB page: ModDB (http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-century-of-war)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on May 24, 2014, 04:03:03 am
Our ModDB page: ModDB (http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-century-of-war)

Looks great, well made too.
I'll be downloading it from here when it comes out.  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Xaime on May 24, 2014, 07:54:57 am
Now this is a mod i will play.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 24, 2014, 03:14:58 pm
Holy shit, hope i'm not repeating other people but when's the release eta?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 24, 2014, 03:21:50 pm
There is no release date yet, we are still working on some weapons, balance and maps, i guess the first release will be in some weeks. After it is released we will rework all the uniforms and start working on a Dutch nation.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: TheBritishLoyalist on May 24, 2014, 06:48:58 pm
wow this century of war mod is looking really amazing!
you have my 1000 thanks for working on this wonderful mod ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 26, 2014, 06:39:48 pm
Here, something for your eyes:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F579023082955597419%2F2B86BF1BC340A839E7591B1335161FF6CEAD0631%2F&hash=61243cb9a9e894ae553332599e6f4828217e633f)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F579023082955551286%2FE8C241B5FD521D87AC63FD7CDC48A18DA4593EB9%2F&hash=55b35d715f7edd37353dec91f4f94033a0417eaa)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 26, 2014, 06:45:45 pm
Oh my lawd.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 26, 2014, 06:54:18 pm
That scene is b-e-a-utiful. Faction wise, I assume that Dutch, Polish, and French remain to be added?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 26, 2014, 06:57:12 pm
The next faction will be the Dutch, we dont know wich will be added after this.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 26, 2014, 07:00:50 pm
I just assumed from some of the signatures that Poland-Lithuania and France would also be included.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 26, 2014, 07:01:55 pm
I just assumed from some of the signatures that Poland-Lithuania and France would also be included.

Yes, but not in the first or second version.



More Eye-Candy:

Spoiler
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Spoiler
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Spoiler
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 26, 2014, 07:04:42 pm
Gotcha. Will there be a maximum of 5 factions, or do you plan on trying to add more in? Sorry if this was already asked.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 26, 2014, 07:07:44 pm
Gotcha. Will there be a maximum of 5 factions, or do you plan on trying to add more in? Sorry if this was already asked.

Yes, but it will take some time until we added all the factions.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 26, 2014, 07:09:03 pm
Helivetica :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 26, 2014, 07:12:16 pm
Helivetica :P

That would be sweet, but it probably wouldn't work as its own faction. I'd love to see it in another faction though.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 26, 2014, 07:21:10 pm
Protestant union pls. The catholic side is already pretty well developed.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Wigster600 on May 26, 2014, 07:22:23 pm
Protestant union pls. The catholic side is already pretty well developed.
Slaves to the damned corrupt catholic church! Free the north of europe from these daemons!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on May 26, 2014, 08:05:32 pm
Those screenshots are just stunning.

 Maybe add a faction of mercenaries? Like the micro faction of B&I?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 26, 2014, 08:18:24 pm
Those screenshots are just stunning.

 Maybe add a faction of mercenaries? Like the micro faction of B&I?

Those things don't really contribute to events and general gameplay, as cool and clever as they are. They only work towards specific "historical" battles or wars.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on May 26, 2014, 08:27:02 pm
Those screenshots are just stunning.

 Maybe add a faction of mercenaries? Like the micro faction of B&I?

Those things don't really contribute to events and general gameplay, as cool and clever as they are. They only work towards specific "historical" battles or wars.

Yeah, i can see your point. Still would be a cool concept.  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on May 26, 2014, 08:27:11 pm
We have allready "mercenaries" in the game: German & Scottish units for Sweden, Spanish & Balkans for Habsburg. In the Thirty Years War was no army without any mercenaries, or other way round: there was no "pure national" army. So a mercenary faction would not make sense and just "takes away" possible units from the factions.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on May 26, 2014, 08:33:56 pm
We have allready "mercenaries" in the game: German & Scottish units for Sweden, Spanish & Balkans for Habsburg. In the Thirty Years War was no army without any mercenaries, or other way round: there was no "pure national" army. So a mercenary faction would not make sense and just "takes away" possible units from the factions.

That's what I was getting at. A faction of purely mercenaries or purely 'sub-factions' takes away from a potential faction slot (like France, England, Sweden, etc. (just examples)), when mercenaries and those 'sub-faction' units can be spread out through the factions, and make more sense in doing so.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on May 28, 2014, 09:53:20 pm
Just something to bump the thread:


Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F576771829440901639%2FA237349C28FE72A03E19FFBF041D4C3FE84C0919%2F&hash=a0906dc184c9daead11e272efd2aaa02d9b56249)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Waterbeetle on May 28, 2014, 10:30:41 pm
Just something to bump the thread:


Spoiler
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The atmosphere is amazing, great scene.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Nipplestockings on May 28, 2014, 11:01:54 pm
Just something to bump the thread:


Spoiler
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My god just stop, I'm going to have a heart attack.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Jelly on May 28, 2014, 11:02:27 pm
Just something to bump the thread:


Spoiler
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FPS 1 ;_;
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on May 28, 2014, 11:10:41 pm
Just something to bump the thread:


Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F576771829440901639%2FA237349C28FE72A03E19FFBF041D4C3FE84C0919%2F&hash=a0906dc184c9daead11e272efd2aaa02d9b56249)
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Give me.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: zac on May 29, 2014, 01:31:30 am
Looking good guys :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SwissGronkh on May 30, 2014, 08:56:13 am
Bump ;)

#SwissBestBumperEU
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: DasBrot on May 30, 2014, 02:42:40 pm
Bump ;)

#SwissBestBumperEU

nub
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on May 30, 2014, 02:58:44 pm
You don't really need to bump this thread on this sub-forum, It'll take weeks at the rate of people posting here for it to slip out of sight in the 2nd page.

But if you must bump it speak of something like oh I don't know a up coming Pike And Shot turn based RTS based on this war now? (http://www.slitherine.com/games/pike_shot_pc)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: PortaWestfalica on June 07, 2014, 11:08:54 am
Two German War Songs from the Thirty Years War :

[youtube]dtYEU1E9axI[/youtube]

[youtube]GYPgu-oBrLk[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Bluehawk on June 07, 2014, 01:15:47 pm
You mean from 1917 and 1919 respectively.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on June 07, 2014, 09:45:32 pm
You mean from 1917 and 1919 respectively.

Plus that first song has already been posted.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Carolus. on June 09, 2014, 03:06:35 pm
This looks really interesting, imma check it out!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Who- on June 09, 2014, 11:08:42 pm
Looks exactly like WFaS
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 10, 2014, 08:28:55 am
Looks exactly like WFaS
But we have cannons, no bow spam shit & no clone warriors.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Gokiller on June 10, 2014, 09:00:50 am
Looks exactly like WFaS
Ah. Does it? Would you mind pointing me out in WFas where I can find the scottish equipment?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Bluehawk on June 10, 2014, 12:22:03 pm
In "puzo_e.brf" in CommonRes.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Gokiller on June 10, 2014, 01:56:45 pm
Really?  ??? Well haven't played SP in that game for years. My excuse  :'(

Eitherway, I have my hopes up that this mod. Even while it looks "exactly" like WFas will be much more enjoyable and better then WFas MP itself.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Killington on June 10, 2014, 02:20:09 pm
Speaking of WFaS, is it possible to have the death animations of WFaS (rag dolls everywhere)? They were pretty awesome and kind of hilarious.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: William on June 10, 2014, 10:28:14 pm
Great to see the mod coming together so well, can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 11, 2014, 02:47:12 am
Speaking of WFaS, is it possible to have the death animations of WFaS (rag dolls everywhere)? They were pretty awesome and kind of hilarious.
Matchlock sends Russians back to fucking Moscow with those animations
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on June 11, 2014, 05:50:26 am
Speaking of WFaS, is it possible to have the death animations of WFaS (rag dolls everywhere)? They were pretty awesome and kind of hilarious.
Matchlock sends Russians back to fucking Moscow with those animations

Agreed.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Turin Turambar on June 11, 2014, 04:00:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZqI33syk_A
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on June 11, 2014, 09:23:39 pm
^ok
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: OttoFIN on June 12, 2014, 01:37:38 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Nipplestockings on June 12, 2014, 02:18:54 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

Ah yes, you're going to love it and then stop playing it after exactly two months, right? People can choose to keep playing a mod. The only reason it would die is if everyone collectively chooses to stop playing. The only reason anyone would choose to do that is if everyone else things other people are choosing to do that. Remain positive.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: OttoFIN on June 12, 2014, 02:59:57 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

Ah yes, you're going to love it and then stop playing it after exactly two months, right? People can choose to keep playing a mod. The only reason it would die is if everyone collectively chooses to stop playing. The only reason anyone would choose to do that is if everyone else things other people are choosing to do that. Remain positive.
Thanks, I needed your reply. :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Willhelm on June 14, 2014, 02:32:56 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

You are the reason why.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: OttoFIN on June 14, 2014, 05:13:37 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

You are the reason why.

I got a positive reply already, I don't need negatives anymore.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: William on June 14, 2014, 06:07:42 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

You are the reason why.

I got a positive reply already, I don't need negatives anymore.
Then don't be a fucking hypocrite and post the most negative thing anyone can say about a mod.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Waterbeetle on June 14, 2014, 09:29:32 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

Still longer than Iron Europe. :P

Too soon?

You are the reason why.

Stop blaming the community for your own incompetence.

If everyone stops playing this mod, it will be our own fault the mod was just not good enough. Ofcourse the NW community is dying, but that is not the blame to the people, but to the poor management.

For a example Iron Europe did get a big part of the community back to the game, people that left before. But high expectations lead to big letdowns with the server problems, but I don't see Rigadoon blaming the community for their own mistake for not enough testing. You can also not blame the community for not patching if you give people such a letdown.

But that is all I can see you do all the time blaming others.

And to be honest this mod is also not going to be savior of the community.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Killington on June 14, 2014, 09:48:07 pm
Dude, just... stop right there. Please.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on June 14, 2014, 09:54:27 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(

Still longer than Iron Europe. :P

Too soon?

You are the reason why.

Stop blaming the community for your own incompetence.

If everyone stops playing this mod, it will be our own fault the mod was just not good enough. Ofcourse the NW community is dying, but that is not the blame to the people, but to the poor management.

For a example Iron Europe did get a big part of the community back to the game, people that left before. But high expectations lead to big letdowns with the server problems, but I don't see Rigadoon blaming the community for their own mistake for not enough testing. You can also not blame the community for not patching if you give people such a letdown.

But that is all I can see you do all the time blaming others.

And to be honest this mod is also not going to be savior of the community.

...Shut up. Please just shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Wigster600 on June 14, 2014, 10:01:50 pm
On the subject of 1600's mods the Deluge update is coming out soon.  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: OttoFIN on June 14, 2014, 10:37:20 pm
pls ppl staph fightin n b friendz
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Ozzy on June 14, 2014, 10:54:58 pm
Great Event regards from "Jämtlands Regemete Till Fots"

(https://i.gyazo.com/d6c108d31ee89e3b9584e104b32aa586.png)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on June 14, 2014, 11:08:21 pm
First off thank you hosting the event, we had fun despite the lack of a few regiments (not a fan of the Rome mod group of dudes sub group of dudes, more of a regiment A goes pikes reg B goes muskets guy) and it was an interesting fun thing.

Me and my guys had a discussion whilst dead and after it was over and basically have some feedback for this mod for you guys to chew over. We are aware you guys have a way to go before release too, this is just our general thoughts thoughts from playing:

The Artillery UI Cursor. I get that you guys want the player to just use the sights as a general area of fire marker and estimate the aiming stuff in their head but as it works now it is too open and vague. It sadly is quite useless and you might as well not have it.

Muskets. I know you don't want them to OP, you are sort of going for a combined arms thing for the moment but with the fork mechanic and general reload time they seem really awkward to use. Also, the sound effect for them is great but really really loud and needs toning down a little. Shaving a second off the time of undeploying the fort will help a lot.

Combat speed is a factor too, It seems anything but fast seems too awkward and slow for the melee weapons with anything not on fast. If you guys could work out a way to be able to brace and move pikes without breaking the brace that'd be grand too. Oh, and the shields for the round shield units are a bit too durable. Two musket shots directly to them should mess them up. People can pretty much just charge boldly into a musket line with those things without being stopped.

Also, I know this isn't as important not but for the future the regiments could do with a little more visual variety. Also, Musicians are sorely missed and we hope they will make a return of the mod. Oh, and remove the female taunts utterly if you don't have replacements as the English VA bark is very silly :p.

The maps from what I saw were very top notch, I love the fortress and the field pieces of the era.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Hazzard on June 15, 2014, 12:46:50 am
Bracing needs to allow turning without breaking it
More visual variety
Faster, longer swords
Artillery needs nerfing that isn't really inaccurate cannons
Claymores need to be faster
Shields need to be more fragile to bullets especially and in general
Have unfinished units have a sign not to be chosen
Combat in general is too slow, but it may just be the server
The fort needs steeper walls, so you don't just walk up the walls
Pikes need a minimum range
Pikes kill horses too slowly
Musicians?
Pikes in Imperial for Austist accuracy?
Cavalry swords are weak

Edit: the above is a summary of the points below.

Here's my feedback after the test event, in no particular order.
Pike bracing is utterly useless right now. This is an NW issue, but in this mod, where pikes and cavalry will clash a lot, bracing would be a really nice if it was possible to turn the pike quite a lot more before the pike is raised and useless. The Deluge mod actually has a very nice pike bracing mechanic where you press b and lose all mobility until you press it again to unbrace the pike. Combat is also really slow and unresponsive at the moment, but that may just be an issue of the server running on medium combat speed. Swords are also too short and too slow, you can't actually kill anyone unless you get someone from behind when formations merge.

Now shields. Shields are far too resilient to bullets. I think they ought to either break instantally on being shot, or be barely affected, because bullets are not going to affect a shield in terms of actually being able to block. They are also extremely resilient to general blows, I didn't even get any indicator my shield was damaged in some of the heavy fighting in the river. Claymores are too slow and the animation has them holding the blade, I'm summing this is an oversight due to being what looks like a re-modelled axe.

For the sake of players not being banned or playing as the wrong class, I'd recommend having placeholder or something similar to high light which units should not be played.

Also, while the fort we played was nice, it had the issue of the walls being climb-able, which made defending it near impossible and it's easier to attack than the defend.
I also found during the random brawls before the event that pikes weren't that useful in killing horses, I was taking at least 3 stabs to kill the horses of the cavalry that attacked me, to the point where I'd have been better off using a gun. I also found that cavalry swords seemed a bit weak, taking too long if dismounted to be a competitive weapon against the swords used by the line. I would suggest having it at a higher damage than it is now, but still lower than the infantry swords, with a slower speed and longer range to make it more useful while on horseback.

Also, are musicians an option? I'd quite like to have a drummer that would increase the speed or defence of formations, to make them a more worthwhile than the blobs we favoured during the event. Another less mechanical thing would be having pike length in Imperial, seeing as the Metric system wasn't invented for another 150 years, but this isn't important and may only be for the sake of the majority of the world using Metric now to describe a distance.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on June 15, 2014, 12:54:53 am
tl;dr
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on June 15, 2014, 12:55:44 am
If you don't read feedback, how are you going to improve a mod?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on June 15, 2014, 01:00:09 am
Thanks for your feedback, in the next days i will balance the weapons and work on the artillery. The invisible units are there because we havent managed to delete them, well of course we can delete them like we did with many other units but than we have the problem that the swedish sapper wont work anymore. I will try to replace the surrender animation with a pikeanimation like this (wich kill horses):
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We havent thought about musicians yet, its very hard to find sounds wich are suitable.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: DanyEle on June 15, 2014, 01:07:12 am
Thanks for your feedback, in the next days i will balance the weapons and work on the artillery. The invisible units are there because we havent managed to delete them, well of course we can delete them like we did with many other units but than we have the problem that the swedish sapper wont work anymore. I will try to replace the surrender animation with a pikeanimation like this (wich kill horses):
Spoiler
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We havent thought about musicians yet, its very hard to find sounds wich are suitable.

Tukki, we had a similar problem in Iron Europe with removing units but it's easier than you might think. Just set the faction of said unit to fac_neutral. This would remove the unit from the game without affecting the game mechanics.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on June 15, 2014, 01:07:48 am
Great. I believe with the right tweaking you can certainly pull off the perfect combined arms with pike, musket, cannon and cav of this era :).

Keep up the great work. Mod shows promise.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on June 15, 2014, 01:32:02 am
Here is the system we thought about, its easy, like a Rock-paper-scissors (lizard-Spock) system:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.06.14%2F4wzt1xh821y4.png&hash=25d13d7b2f1dde42834c513d9dcc0cf42e5148ea)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on June 15, 2014, 02:19:20 am
Makes snese. The Pike And Shot food cycle.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Parrot on June 15, 2014, 02:25:02 am
Here is the system we thought about, its easy, like a Rock-paper-scissors (lizard-Spock) system:

#snip#
Makes snese. The Pike And Shot food cycle.

Yeah, what you're aiming for in balance there makes sense, however I think the event rules might have taken away from that. Splitting regiments into a couple of gunmen, a couple of pikes, and a few swords makes them loose their effectiveness. Thankfully, rules can be changed.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on June 15, 2014, 03:18:42 am
The food chain of the 17th century.   :-*
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: William on June 15, 2014, 03:19:52 am
You forgot the part where everything beats artillery but artillery also beats everything (and to the same extent so do missile infantry)  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on June 15, 2014, 04:01:06 am
How significant will artillery be, anyway?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on June 15, 2014, 04:33:42 am
How significant will artillery be, anyway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7iQPyThoZ0
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Furrnox on June 15, 2014, 04:41:10 am
Seems legit.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on June 15, 2014, 05:31:56 am
How significant will artillery be, anyway?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7iQPyThoZ0
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I love that movie, so many outrageous scenes. The cavalry charge through the gate was great.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Vander on June 15, 2014, 11:05:32 am
Upon request, I will post the 1erCrb/Adelsfana's screenshots of last night's event here as well!
Thanks again to KArantukki, Noel and the rest of the devs for this mod, we had a blast.

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The Adelsfana, ready for battle. Excuse the random black guys, we found them in an old fish barrel.

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Outnumbered four to one, we still stand to repel the Habsburg advance.

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The ensuing round, we made sure to try out the Swedish light cavalry. Hakkaa päälle pohjan poika!

Spoiler
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On the fourth round, we were to defend a river crossing against the Habsburg vanguard.

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Sensing an opportunity, the Swedes were sent to cross and press the attack on the Habsburgers. "Gott mit uns, våran konung har talat; hör vårt stridsrop, GOTT MIT UNS!"
Unfortunately, the commander fell to a stray bullet. We're looking at you, Staines.


A gallery with the rest of our exploits can be found here! https://i.imgur.com/a/Vxiha
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Hazzard on June 15, 2014, 01:45:51 pm
Here is the system we thought about, its easy, like a Rock-paper-scissors (lizard-Spock) system:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F15.06.14%2F4wzt1xh821y4.png&hash=25d13d7b2f1dde42834c513d9dcc0cf42e5148ea)
Am I right in assuming that the bottom man with a gun is a dragoon and the left-hand one is a musketeer on foot?

I would also suggest allowing regiments to just do their own thing in terms of numbers of pikes to muskets, that may encourage more teamwork between the different groups as they will stick together to ensure the pikes aren't gunned down and the muskets aren't ridden down by cavalry.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on June 15, 2014, 03:34:49 pm
The NW system of just having regiments do one thing (IE blocks of pikes, muskets and round shield men) would make more sense and be easier to balance.

I can't understand why that awkward system from that non NW Rome mod oozed over. It is needlessly confusing. I have fingers crossed you'll get an even bigger attendence in the next beta test.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Hazzard on June 15, 2014, 03:45:28 pm
I suppose it came over, because large regiments like to do all of the roles themselves. I like the idea of one regiment being able to do Pike and Shot, but small groups can't.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on June 15, 2014, 03:49:34 pm
Am I right in assuming that the bottom man with a gun is a dragoon and the left-hand one is a musketeer on foot?

The guy on the bottom is a rondartschier (round shield fighter), he stands for the special units like scottish swordsmen and the austrian rondartschier.

The NW system of just having regiments do one thing (IE blocks of pikes, muskets and round shield men) would make more sense and be easier to balance.

I can't understand why that awkward system from that non NW Rome mod oozed over. It is needlessly confusing. I have fingers crossed you'll get an even bigger attendence in the next beta test.

The idea doesnt come from the Rome mod, its from the Deluge where regiments can bring pikemen and musketeers, I can understand your point and of course we can test it in the next event, but historical the infantery got pikes and muskets in one formation. Yes, this Event wasnt very big, two regiments didnt come and I heard from many people they want to watch the Columbia vs. Costa Rica match. However i will invite some more regiments for the next time.

I just got an idea, smaller regiments like 15 men or less have to pick muskets OR pikes and bigger regiments can have both, musketeers and pikemen. And the specialunits like the swordsmen are seperated too.

Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Vander on June 15, 2014, 04:23:25 pm
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I just got an idea, smaller regiments like 15 men or less have to pick muskets OR pikes and bigger regiments can have both, musketeers and pikemen. And the specialunits like the swordsmen are seperated too.
I strongly disagree with this. Considering the general member attendance of the beta's event, very few would be able to play as both. At the same time, my regiment enjoys playing both aspects, working together, and building the formations that, for example, are shown in the screenshots I supplied earlier.

However, giving some form of narration or purpose to each round might make things easier. Defend a building, capture the enemy regiment's banner, etc.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 15, 2014, 09:11:49 pm
First: Damn, that I missed the event!!  :'(

Second: The problem is with this game-style (much historical as possible with MB engine) small units are not possible to play effective nor enjoyable. If you have just 10 men and want them to devide into pikes AND muskets, it looks like more a joke than a real formation. 10 pikes and 5 muskets should be a minimum if you want to play both. Imagine you playing as 8 guys, devided into 4 musketeers and 4 pikemen. just 2 of the pikemen get shot... with this inaccuracy of firearms more by luck, but just imagine they're dead now. The 2 pikemen can not enjoy playing really anymore as pikemen and will change to short weapons as soon as melee starts, and the 4 musketeers can't enjoy anymore their role, because they lost their melee support and really hit only on luck.

Shields don't block for some reason every bullet. Even if the trajectory of the projectile is going through the shield. I'm no coder, I don't know if this is fixable. But the shields (especially the steel shields) should be resistant to any hit of a bullet. The aim of a shield bearer IS to resist projectiles. Nothing less. I think they can only nerfed by slowing them down in moving. But not the equipment itself. For example scottish shieldmen are faster in moving, but less hitpoints and weaker shields in melee. While Rondartschiere (the german counterpart) are slow in moving.

And honestly, I like that swords are not any more as long as before in NW. There, most swords, especially cavalry swords are too long. And without bayonets, heavy melee cavalry with "claymores" would just dominate the battlefield. Or shortened: they would be totally OP. Cavalry is now more aimed to ride as a close formation to each others to engage. Single combat should not be so easy any more, espeacially with this just knocking down footmen with the horse in melee.
Claymores should brake through blocks, if they don't, we need to change or increase the chance. But too fast claymores would other hand dominate the melee again like the long swords in NW.

The aim of this mod is not to create an arcade feeling where maybe everyone justs spawns and can enjoy on public play. Honestly, we don't have to. We are not comercializing it. It's more based on team/group play and formations. Remember, unlike in enlightened or napoleonic warfare (18th - early 19th century), muskets, harquebusiers and firearms in general are no own branch of service! Maybe this is no recipe for a sucessfull and/or much played mod, especially not for players who are playing warband because of Napoleonic Wars. But we try, because we enjoy to create this.

Remember, this is just beta!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Bruin on June 15, 2014, 10:34:47 pm
I like it Friedrich. You put a lot of time into it including your team.
 ;D :D :) ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on June 16, 2014, 03:43:03 am
I totally agree. NW regiments should look to join CoW-specific regiments, not make them willy-nilly. It's hard to get enjoyment out of it if the regiment sizes are all small.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GrandMaster on June 17, 2014, 01:24:28 am
I totally agree. NW regiments should look to join CoW-specific regiments, not make them willy-nilly. It's hard to get enjoyment out of it if the regiment sizes are all small.

Indeed I think a 5 regiment league per time zone would maintain order, tactics and keep 20+ sized clans which will give the mod more of a life. As the clans would form a separate community identity people wouldn't be forced by NW regs whilst others not interested in NW could join the 5 clans.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: nikochoki on June 17, 2014, 02:16:42 pm
Good mod!

I make a post in my forum for her beautiful mod xD (http://www.comunidadgamerhispana.es/forum/m/17427187/viewthread/13367411-century-war/post/last#last)
 
I would like to help editing scenes. ;)

But i can make textures or resources.

PD: Sry for my bad english
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Hazzard on June 17, 2014, 05:13:14 pm
I totally agree. NW regiments should look to join CoW-specific regiments, not make them willy-nilly. It's hard to get enjoyment out of it if the regiment sizes are all small.

Indeed I think a 5 regiment league per time zone would maintain order, tactics and keep 20+ sized clans which will give the mod more of a life. As the clans would form a separate community identity people wouldn't be forced by NW regs whilst others not interested in NW could join the 5 clans.
Speaking as someone from a small group, forcing people into large regiments is not the answer. I would probably not play the mod rather than go into a large regiment to go to  an event.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Jelly on June 17, 2014, 06:24:15 pm
Spin2win with pike?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 17, 2014, 07:19:37 pm
If you like to play in a small group, you need to deal with only playing 1 unit type in an event. The combined warfare of this era sadly doesnt work with too few people.

Spin2win with pike?
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: William on June 17, 2014, 09:21:30 pm
I definitely see forced conscription as an answer to the troves of small regiments. <10 regiments are not going to help the mod so by at least forcing people together it will make larger groups and allow for more enjoyable battles where it's mainly large clashes of pike and shot, not skirmishes throughout the map. On top of this, there could always be events more catered to the smaller regiments as opposed to the larger regiments which would take part in the, hopefully official, events and finally, by having larger regiments it makes a more centralized community among these regiments as opposed to players being spread far and thin.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: nikochoki on June 17, 2014, 10:22:27 pm
Spanish Sapper

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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GrandMaster on June 17, 2014, 11:47:04 pm
I totally agree. NW regiments should look to join CoW-specific regiments, not make them willy-nilly. It's hard to get enjoyment out of it if the regiment sizes are all small.

Indeed I think a 5 regiment league per time zone would maintain order, tactics and keep 20+ sized clans which will give the mod more of a life. As the clans would form a separate community identity people wouldn't be forced by NW regs whilst others not interested in NW could join the 5 clans.
Speaking as someone from a small group, forcing people into large regiments is not the answer. I would probably not play the mod rather than go into a large regiment to go to  an event.
I definitely see forced conscription as an answer to the troves of small regiments. <10 regiments are not going to help the mod so by at least forcing people together it will make larger groups and allow for more enjoyable battles where it's mainly large clashes of pike and shot, not skirmishes throughout the map. On top of this, there could always be events more catered to the smaller regiments as opposed to the larger regiments which would take part in the, hopefully official, events and finally, by having larger regiments it makes a more centralized community among these regiments as opposed to players being spread far and thin.

As stated I have to agree that centralised quantity is the key to a successful MB mod as it provides a base with which to develop, thus supporting small groups which can follow the successful formulas of their predecessors.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on June 18, 2014, 03:07:57 am
Just a suggestion about events.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honourandthesword.com%2Fimages%2Fotherpix%2FWarfare%2FRocroiPerez-Reverte.jpg&hash=f159e98ae747ffafa32792ae50f541bd30e8eb04)

Look at this image. This crowd looks like an undisciplined mercenary rabble compared to line infantry armies of NW, but they are able to form a line. Not a perfectly straight NW line, but they sort of pack their squares into final formation that resembles more of a line than a square, and the reason they started doing this in the first place is to reduce casualties from projectiles. Since shields were obsolete, they figured if they make a line instead of a giant square, less people would get pierced by cannon balls and random bullet drops. What they ended up with in most cases is a line of two rows.

Also, infantry warfare tactics used in this era is called pike and shot for a reason . It was about mixed unit tactics, with rows of pikemen and shooters exchanging places to use their weapons most effectively, or to cover the other while reloading. But most importantly, both pikemen and musketeers had to practice formations together, so it would make perfect sense for one regiment to hold both classes,  and practicing formations used in this era can only be fun, it depends on two rows changing positions either to advance or retreat, while making as much and having as less casualties as possible. One version includes musketeers only, and is about increasing rate of fire.

Most of the tactics depended on two rows performing actions one after another, so you would hardly trust a line of pikemen from another regiment would do their job well enough, unless you have practices together and are on same ts under one commander during event. But that kind of sucks, because members of one regiment usually don't like being commanded by officer of another regiment.

In any case, my point is, I don't see anything wrong with small regiments being a squad of 5 pikemen 5 muskets (or something like that) as long as that regiment is able to form a line with other regiments. That means, whatever formation the squad members are currently in, general position of the squad should be aligned with all other infantry squads (regiments) so they form a sort of a line. Then if all regiments manage to align their pikemen rows to the front it would make a much less pathetic scene, as you would see pikemen from all regiments aligned.

So, much like a rule in NW stating that people in regiment should form a single line, here we can have a rule that regiments must form a line between themselves, while the formation of people within each regiment itself should have more liberties than single lines we have in NW, and how the squad will end up looking is up to the squad captain giving orders and discipline of his men. Of course, cavalry and some other special units should be spared of single line rule.

Although it seems limiting to have all infantry squads in a single line, it would end up forcing tactics of the era, as muskets here reload slower and they will need much support. In this case, the battle event game for standard infantry squads would be about three things:
1-within a squad, using tactics of two rows of different or same class working together.
2-within a line of squads, squad captain should be trying to work as much as possible with squads to his left and right, flanks should be reserved for squads which perform best on flanks.
3-observing the enemy line, finding a hole in enemy line, which usually means recognizing the most undisciplined squad

So I see some gameplay depth here, with a few rules in place to keep lines of squads coherent (for example, a single infantry squad is not allowed to advance so much that it finds itself behind an enemy squad). Big regiments could have the option of splitting into smaller squads with individual squad leaders as well, each being responsible for his squad performance, this kind of hierarchy is mother of all military organization and is invented to make things easier.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 18, 2014, 02:25:59 pm
This image is a modern "hyperrealistical" painting. And it represents the last spanish tercio at the end of Battle of Rocroi close to be defeated by the french. So it doesnt really show an order at the start of a battle and so it couldn't represent the (tercio-)formation of this time. It was still a square, with pikes in the middle, musketeers around them and at every edge a small square ("bastion") of harquebusiers or musketeers. The dutch and swedish rearranged or reformed the spanish tercio order, made it smaller and increased the amount of musketeers to bring more firepower to the front.
Shields were still used (Rondartschier armed with a Rotella) to absorb projectiles like musket bullets or shrapnels. Here are some engravings from that era:

Spanish Order (Tercio)
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fd%2Fd0%2FTercio_2.jpg&hash=56aac4fbf7548b5fdf883f8759fda8d94e2982bd)
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Swedish Order
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F2%2F2a%2FSchwedische_Ordonnanz.jpg&hash=8333ca18d1613a5b1dcc0cff90dc5a79712ed099)
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Rondartschier
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.regimentjohannwolf.de%2FPikeniere%2Frondartschier2.jpg&hash=ccf77121be98acf6fd57186ef745e00fdd206d0e)
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Yes, we didn't decline that small regiment could take part in an event. But only as 1 single unit. But less than 8-10 players means, still as pikeneer unit you're not any more able to performe well enough. So the smalles groups should be musketeers. And ofc musketeers should better stick to pikes or they get very quick annihilated by cavalry. Most of the players should have a bit brain in their heads, to be fair.

The common formation I saw in the events was just Pikes in middle, flanked by muskets. The muskets played independent and reacted more on the movement of the pikes instead of other way around. What i saw too was, that muskets were in front of the pikes. But this formation was very vulnerable to volleys of course.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SeanBeansShako on June 18, 2014, 03:04:16 pm
I think small groups of around 6-7 should be Musketeers/Shieldmen too with the bigger guys going mostly pike with the other classes as a possible option.

Best thing you can do really.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on June 18, 2014, 04:45:58 pm
Yea, fail for me, that painting is actually a square.

Yea shields were used, but you can count them as obsolete, maybe because making of a personal shield which can stop most projectiles is more costly than life of a soldier, or resources for making it are better used for other more modern stuff. Those small round shields look more like melee equipment to me.

The muskets played independent and reacted more on the movement of the pikes instead of other way around.

Which is why its best for one regiment to have both pike and musket classes whenever possible, the way they work together must be practiced, because it seems counter intuitive at start. For example muskets are brought to front row because those guns were inaccurate and had low range, so if you want most effective volley you get them closer to enemy.  Pikes are in front of muskets while they are reloading even if it seems there is no one to protect them from yet, otherwise if cav suddenly charges they may not have enough time to form protective pike line.

These maneuvers are done either by 2nd row advancing in front of 1st or 1st raw falling back behind 2nd, with one commander in charge of a row of pikemen and row of muskets as a single squad, the game would get more depth. I just think one unit composed solely of pikemen sounds fun because of movies like 300, but in reality it would get old pretty soon.

But yea, smaller regiments should specialize in one class until they grow in numbers.

Most of the players should have a bit brain in their heads, to be fair.
Thats a very high prerequisite. Some event rules should be in place, which would substitute thinking.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Hazzard on June 18, 2014, 05:05:27 pm
Muskets did fine themselves on their own on the odd occasion, they functioned like 19th century riflemen and later standard line according to this set of articles: http://warfare.uphero.com/Renaissance/RenaissanceWarfare-AirfixMagazineArticles.htm
So I don't think restricting missile infantry to NW style line formations is a good idea. I quite like the idea of giving them the flexibility to go out on their own if they think it helps. Because it's balanced by the power of cavalry riding them down if they're without support.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 18, 2014, 07:14:38 pm
Yes, there were used some skirmishers, mostly harquebusiers, because the early muskets were too heavy (that's why mostly musket forks were used). But this were only small groups. Most musketeers/harquebusiers were attached to the big tercios, because pikeneers without fire support would have been killed by cuirassiers, pistoliers or mounted harquebusiers easily, while the caracolla (basicly a hit-and-run-tactic of firearmed cavalry).
Quote from: Renaissance Warfare - Part 3: infantry missile weapons - Formations
Firearm infantry, unless they were detailed to form a 'forlorn' or skirmish line, were usually formed in 'order' (three feet spacing between files).

The problem is, when we allow musketeers to skirmish, everyone else starts complaining (look NW). And then it looks like a huge skirmish brawl. Imo we should stick into formation events and improve the tactics ingame.

And as I sayed, Pikes are not effective any more when theyre only consisting of too less players. I've seen it a lot that they drop their pikes (that should be definitly NOT the intention) then when they enter melee.

Btw this Renaissance Warfare site is more sticked to pre-Thirty-Years war era (Italian Wars & Early Eighty Years War).
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Cairo1 on June 19, 2014, 09:24:31 am
Glory and success to this mod!
Honor and Victory for its testers!

I wish you nothing but luck and good will!

all of my want, all of my yes.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on June 19, 2014, 03:18:44 pm
Well if mod developers want to have events focused on realistic formations, then there is no discussion about it.

Large regiments should be forced by rules to form a tercio, just like they are forced to form a line in NW. They can be line if traveling to another position.

Smaller one-class regiments can either form a line along side of tercio, or make smaller tercio anywhere next to big one.

Big tercio can be spread anything up to two man spacing (to allow helper troops on edges to enter the safety of their formation without too much pushing and squeezing)

If small regiment is making a line along side of big tercio, and their line is longer than the side of big tercio, they are allowed to make more than one rank. (Ideally, small musketeer regiment would make a line of two ranks along side of tercio, and would fire two volleys, one per each rank, one while the other is reloading.)

Some problems:

-People at wrong side of the tercio might die of boredom, as they spend most of time facing away from fighting and catching bullet drops.
Solution: more cavalry, let two cav per team be standard for events, so there is more flanking going on, so infantry can feel this tactics is serving a purpose rather than limiting

-Tercios are harder to form than lines. Actually it is surprisingly hard.
No solution here but regimental training. And a good system, like form a small line next to officer first and then keep adding lines behind. But still, it can be surprisingly hard, as a military formation in practice is only as agile and smart as the dumbest and clumsiest guy in it.

-Tercios are hard to move.
If tercio wants to move, walking (shift) is enforced by rules. Moving a formation is much easier with walking on, although it doesn't guarantee success it will prevent total breaking of formation on each move attempt. And of course, with drummer in ranks, walking in a formation is atmospheric as hell. Small regiment helper ranks are still allowed to run.
If big regiment wants to move by running, they would have to make a line first. Ofc, when melee is near or charging, running should be allowed.


Examples of allowed formations:
0 - big regiment muskets
1 - big regiment pikes
A - small regiment A
B - small regiment B

Basic tactics with small regiments covering sides of big tercio

B B B B B B
0 0 0 0 0 0 AA
0 1 1 1 1 0 AA
0 1 1 1 1 0 _ A
0 1 1 1 1 0 _ A
0 1 1 1 1 0 AA
0 0 0 0 0 0 AA

Small square on edge:
_ _ _ _ _ _ BBB
_ _ _ _ _ _ BBB
_ _ _ _ _ _ BBB
0 0 0 0 0 0 AA
0 1 1 1 1 0 AA
0 1 1 1 1 0   A
0 1 1 1 1 0   A
0 1 1 1 1 0 AA
0 0 0 0 0 0 AA

Big tercio is pikeman only, and spread out

_____________________ BBB
_____________________ BBB
_____________________ BBB
1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 A
_____________________ A
1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 A
_____________________ A
1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 A
_____________________ A
1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 A
_____________________ A
1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 A
_____________________ A
1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1 __ 1
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 21, 2014, 02:58:22 pm
Sorry, really nice suggestions, but square formations rarely work in Warband. And most would not do it, you're a splendit target for a musket volley or cannonball. If you had 3000 players per tercio it would not matter, but not if you are around 10-20. You can try to deploy this against cavalry. But not when youre advancing or fighting against other pikes. a pike line would just simply encircle your tercio and could flank your front. And your tercio is not the difficultest one. Remember the swedish order, it would be even more complicated. The only managable and maneuverable formation would be a kind of double line:

M - Musketeers
P - Pikemen



   M
   M
   M
   M
P P
P P
P P
P P
P P
   M
   M
   M
   M

P
P M
P M
P M
P M
P M
P M
P M
P M
P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on June 22, 2014, 02:15:41 pm
Well some years ago I wouldn't believe so many players would agree to stand in lines, while under musket and arty fire, and do exactly as one officer commands, but NW proved otherwise.

Anything can be solved with some modding - make arty cannon hit less devastating, muskets more inaccurate and less range. People bravely standing in their melee formation while bullets are dropping and arty shells exploding around them is what atmosphere of this era is about. If done right, one would not join the event to perform some amazing feat of pike-spinning solo melee, but rather to experience historical spectacle from eyes of a soldier who is part of formation of the era, and testing his luck against inaccurate projectiles is part of experience.

If more people were to watch this movie, maybe more of them would be up for recreating it :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo)

And pike melee could be modded in a way so having multiple ranks would be more useful than one. I think you noticed people dropping pikes because the way they work now its hard to make some actual damage against infantry with them.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Romulus on June 24, 2014, 12:41:50 pm
What do you have to do to apply for Alpha access for a regiment?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 24, 2014, 01:49:48 pm
- honesty
- steady numbers in attending events
- at least some (no troll) fame in the community
- skilled enough to form something more than just a standard line in an event
- some interest in that era
- not starting 'why isn't my pro-nation in this mod? It is so important in this era bla bla bla' discussions
- willing to support and listen to the modders
- helping with historical pictures/unit names/flags from this era (prefering dutch/swedish/german itm)

If you bring this, contact KArantukki. We will discuss the rest internal and inform you very quick!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on June 24, 2014, 04:29:56 pm
- at least some (no troll) fame in the community

Ha, Fame Bitch !  :P

For me its more important that you are a regiment wich can bring about 15-30 people for sure, so if you are intessted but you are a small regiment or only a few of your players are interessted try to form a regiment for the beta with other NW regiments so you can bring the number of men.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: LeBrun on June 24, 2014, 06:19:46 pm
 I would like to reply about the formation system by presenting and naming the three systems of pike and shot of this period. Those would have to be perform on events for a minimum of historical accuracy  :

M- Musketeer
P- Pikemen

Spanish System

M M M M M
M P  P  P M
M P  P  P M
M P  P  P M
M M M M M 

Or

M M        M M
M M        M M
      P P P
      P P P
      P P P
M M        M M
M M        M M

Dutch System :

M M
M M
M M
P P
P P
P P
MM
MM
MM

Sometimes in the dutch system some musketeers were send forward as skirmishers.

Swedish System :

M
M
M
M
PP
PP
PP
M
M
M
M
This formation is like the dutch one but was more shallower for more firepower.

 know that some people has allready present some of those formations but it was just to name them.


Also for the artillery i don't know if the system is like NW but if it is, that will be a big problem. An artillery too accurate which can easily destroy a pike formation would not be fun and nobody would like to make a Tercio . I hope that the accuracy will be less than NW or that the sight will be remove , just an artillery where you need to have the greatest skill.

And just for know, will it be possible to brace pikes ?


Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Romulus on June 25, 2014, 12:40:25 am
- at least some (no troll) fame in the community

Ha, Fame Bitch !  :P

For me its more important that you are a regiment wich can bring about 15-30 people for sure, so if you are intessted but you are a small regiment or only a few of your players are interessted try to form a regiment for the beta with other NW regiments so you can bring the number of men.
Ah well me and my friends only bring up an average of 12. but I'll wait for the full release, Thank you.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on June 26, 2014, 04:20:09 pm
And just for know, will it be possible to brace pikes ?
Yep.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on June 27, 2014, 09:47:37 am
Bump. Let this be out soon.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on June 30, 2014, 05:48:23 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81atJHxdCGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV2xIA9KEPk
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Devmc99 on July 08, 2014, 03:57:43 am
Any updates?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: turanafon on July 08, 2014, 10:31:34 am
i cant believe i only just saw this , GL guys
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on July 08, 2014, 12:58:31 pm
Any updates?

Yea. These are the new stuff being worked on that I know of:


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More than just a primitive horse-killing bayonet brace from NW, pike point also works against horsemen themselves and infantry as well, while taking into consideration various factors like direction and speed of movement to decide the amount of damage, if any. For example, if a horseman who is riding away from the pikeman (his back turned to pikeman) collides with the pike point, he won't be impaled, and pike will be bumped away into inactive position for a second, because he is hitting the pike point from behind rather than front.
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Spoiler
An image speaks more than words:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gerhard-salomon.at%2Fhuswagen.gif&hash=93d686b89e50b0dbf7f0df30623c2a56f7ce9dba)
Vast knightly armies were mobilized and sent into Bohemia, only to find themselves confronted by one of the most innovative and successful military systems of all time, the "wagenburg" (wagon-fort). This system was the product of the tactical genius of Ian Zizka (1359?-1424), who was the first general to win battles using gunpowder. A seasoned professional soldier, the one-eyed Zizka developed a military system based on the use of large, stoutly built wagons. This was a technique he had learned in Eastern Europe, which Zizka supplemented by extensive use of firearms, including both cannon and infantry small arms, plus a discipline not seen since Roman times. Zizka's basic strategy was to move offensively, but to fight defensively. The army, with hundreds of wagons, advanced in parallel columns across country, covered by a small contingent of cavalry scouting ahead. When a suitable defensive position was found, the wagons were chained together into a sort of fort, with the cavalry and draft animals held in the center. While some of the troops dug a ditch around the outer edge of the fort, others used heavy timbers to close all intervals, including the spaces under the wagons. Zizka's artillery, which was mounted on wheeled carts, was sometimes placed between wagons, but more frequently held in the interior of the wagon fort, emplaced on mounds of earth so they could fire over the wagons. Pikemen, crossbowmen, and handgunmen filled the wagons and the intervals, using their weapons through loopholes. Once ready, and a wagon-fort could be erected in relatively short order, Zizka's cavalry would sortie, provoking the enemy to attack, and then beat a hasty retreat into the safety of the wagon-fort. As the enemy came on, Zizka's crossbows, handguns, and cannon would let loose, keeping up the fire until the attack faltered or smashed up against the wagon wall, where the pikemen confronted them. When this happened, Zizka would counterattack with his pikes and cavalry, with the usual result that the enemy would be driven from the field.

Zizka, who eventually was blinded in his good eye as well, was unbeatable. He campaigned extensively in Bohemia, Moravia, Hungary, and Eastern and Southern Germany, even reaching the Baltic. Victory followed upon victory, as Hussite armies, which were composed primarily of peasants and burghers, repeatedly defeated knightly hosts many times their number. Zizka's enemies were never able to cope with his tactics. So succesful was he that when he died, his skin was used to top a drum so that he could continue to lead his armies to victory.

Zizka's military system was never defeated. But it was by no means unbeatable. The moving columns of wagons were vulnerable to raids and ambushes. The wagenburg was extremely vulnerable if attacked before it was properly established, and once established remained vulnerable to artillery fire. In addition, the system was unsuited to the tactical offensive. In order for it to work the enemy had to attack. Finally, the entire system was unsuited to any terrain which was not essentially a relatively open plain. That the foes of the Hussites never defeated them had much to do with their unwillingness to change their tactics, for they relied almost exclusively upon the charge of the men-at-arms, which was the least effective way to cope with Zizka's system.
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These features will be tested at next big event.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Devmc99 on July 09, 2014, 04:06:39 am
Nice!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on July 09, 2014, 08:32:47 am
Seeing some of these formations in the Deluge.  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GhostDog on July 09, 2014, 10:29:46 pm
Can you release this before august? please
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on July 10, 2014, 12:34:14 am
We will see, next week we will host another beta event to test our new features and new maps. ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on July 10, 2014, 01:00:16 am
Will a North American test be coming soon?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on July 10, 2014, 06:07:57 am
Will a North American test be coming soon?

Please.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Hesse on July 13, 2014, 09:35:03 pm
Will a North American test be coming soon?

Please.

Indeed. Pretty Please?  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Xaime on July 15, 2014, 12:36:05 am
I wish i was able to come to beta events, this looks so good! Keep it up~
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Colonel Howe on July 15, 2014, 12:44:05 am
I'd like to sign up for a beta event with a regiment of 1. Thanks
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on July 15, 2014, 01:10:23 am
To go or stay? that is the question.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: OttoFIN on July 26, 2014, 08:34:05 pm
Oh God, so silent in this theard.. ANYONE STILL ALIVE?!!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on July 26, 2014, 10:38:48 pm
Well, here are new screenshots for you :D

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402549486619%2FC77D5334FE7119FAA0BE43E946EFC72E192D152C%2F&hash=effd10339ca0a46a736b2dcfcc48fac56058297c)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402555711160%2F30C56D7765C64196A99F59BC75F51A103F75EFAD%2F&hash=af3656101f0c2cd84b235835accdbf38570f6cf2)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on July 27, 2014, 12:07:01 am
Well, here are new screenshots for you :D

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402549486619%2FC77D5334FE7119FAA0BE43E946EFC72E192D152C%2F&hash=effd10339ca0a46a736b2dcfcc48fac56058297c)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402555711160%2F30C56D7765C64196A99F59BC75F51A103F75EFAD%2F&hash=af3656101f0c2cd84b235835accdbf38570f6cf2)
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Oh nice, well my impressed.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on July 27, 2014, 12:14:53 am
Keep it up, I seriously can't wait.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Killington on July 27, 2014, 03:48:27 am
Keep it up, I seriously can't wait.
I agree with the sentiment of complimenting the modder team, truly their work is fantastic, but please guys take your time, I don't mean to imply that you aren't, just remember that we can all wait a few extra months or a year if it means the mod will survive with a good and stable release.  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on July 27, 2014, 04:29:16 am
I wasn't pressuring them for untimely release, Mr. Nice-Cutie. I was stating that I'm so excited about this mod and I want to see it finished, not "OMFG DIS NEDS 2 COM UOT NAUW BEKUS IM A SPESHEL SNEWFLAK". I've been in head development of a mod that was very anticipated but failed early on, I know what demand and pressure for that kind of thing feels like, I wouldn't infringe that on someone else.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Killington on July 27, 2014, 05:47:08 am
I know, just trying to remind the mod team whenever possible that despite all the people (not you) yelling at them for a quick release, it's incredibly important to put them aside and do what you can to make a stable and innovative mod at release instead of releasing an unpolished mod and then patching it later. First impressions are too important with this community.  :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on July 27, 2014, 06:56:39 am
Agreed. That just reiterates what I say all the time about mods for NW: they always need a lot of careful work and planning before any release, because no matter how long it takes for the mod to come out, it could still die within days if its simply not ready for whatever reason. The smallest reason could be why, so mods should not be rushed in the slightest and instead be carefully finished completely (not including patches like faction, map, etc. additions) before release.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on July 27, 2014, 09:47:25 pm
I reworked the Cannon mode:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584653308%2FBB5B966B84D850A09CBABEAF9B43E8CE01121740%2F&hash=29054c1ed93a98e90eca4bd46fdb85bcbfe6411a)
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Also, new map:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584640427%2FD3308F01F42DD1EBEDF1BE18B077BAFB0269AE8B%2F&hash=d857aa789a6be5400fcb779c4d5c56488c0fab7c)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584645675%2FEABDE7BFAB0317AD43FD9A07191951F59359FCDD%2F&hash=80c00c4e6153ffe863efc21e980280ac361b8e27)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on July 27, 2014, 09:48:41 pm
Oh gosh, fantastic cannon, and the maps definitely do not disappoint. ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Killington on July 27, 2014, 09:49:07 pm
Nice! I love the wheels and the colouring of the cannon! ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on July 27, 2014, 10:21:48 pm
Holy fuck that city is awesome!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Nipplestockings on July 27, 2014, 10:31:30 pm
I reworked the Cannon mode:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584653308%2FBB5B966B84D850A09CBABEAF9B43E8CE01121740%2F&hash=29054c1ed93a98e90eca4bd46fdb85bcbfe6411a)
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Also, new map:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584640427%2FD3308F01F42DD1EBEDF1BE18B077BAFB0269AE8B%2F&hash=d857aa789a6be5400fcb779c4d5c56488c0fab7c)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584645675%2FEABDE7BFAB0317AD43FD9A07191951F59359FCDD%2F&hash=80c00c4e6153ffe863efc21e980280ac361b8e27)
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That's Magdeburg right? I recognize it from the end of The Last Valley. 1:52:16

http://youtu.be/RR38IsO032Q?t=1h52m16s
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: OttoFIN on July 28, 2014, 08:16:54 am
So bootyful.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on July 28, 2014, 09:21:41 am
I reworked the Cannon mode:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584653308%2FBB5B966B84D850A09CBABEAF9B43E8CE01121740%2F&hash=29054c1ed93a98e90eca4bd46fdb85bcbfe6411a)
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Also, new map:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584640427%2FD3308F01F42DD1EBEDF1BE18B077BAFB0269AE8B%2F&hash=d857aa789a6be5400fcb779c4d5c56488c0fab7c)
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Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226402584645675%2FEABDE7BFAB0317AD43FD9A07191951F59359FCDD%2F&hash=80c00c4e6153ffe863efc21e980280ac361b8e27)
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That's Magdeburg right?

Magdeburg was much bigger, this is just a small random town i created.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Wigster600 on July 28, 2014, 12:09:36 pm
The frame the cannons on looks a tad narrow, like the colour style of it though.  :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on July 29, 2014, 02:51:01 pm
For the new map, there are four different version, two for summer (Day/Evening) and two for winter (Cloudy/Night):

Winter
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922091198%2F155B33D896E283567C94BCFE0920269E4677ED90%2F&hash=e4d2bc9d6a4d3e17e6b2b9ca4ca51d6c93ec1f15)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922084105%2FE9AD528559AEEFFB8B9158C85784678D626A3322%2F&hash=40e351476a945953f2c3c9912eeb04d40d815174)
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Summer
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922088557%2F39C6CDE1DF39F51A454C88124729AE922D394A89%2F&hash=3ea0705fc06dc712b6c4e2d998dc0084b9df2e0c)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922086260%2FD808E190C2AB9BB28110F5794B7CD3B8069E2319%2F&hash=22f074a27043d8e0a8ac9e0dbd21abfaa6e9cb3b)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on July 31, 2014, 01:59:23 am
For the new map, there are four different version, two for summer (Day/Evening) and two for winter (Cloudy/Night):

Winter
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922091198%2F155B33D896E283567C94BCFE0920269E4677ED90%2F&hash=e4d2bc9d6a4d3e17e6b2b9ca4ca51d6c93ec1f15)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922084105%2FE9AD528559AEEFFB8B9158C85784678D626A3322%2F&hash=40e351476a945953f2c3c9912eeb04d40d815174)
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Summer
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-4.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922088557%2F39C6CDE1DF39F51A454C88124729AE922D394A89%2F&hash=3ea0705fc06dc712b6c4e2d998dc0084b9df2e0c)

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F44226816922086260%2FD808E190C2AB9BB28110F5794B7CD3B8069E2319%2F&hash=22f074a27043d8e0a8ac9e0dbd21abfaa6e9cb3b)
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Oh my, can't wait man! :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Olafson on July 31, 2014, 12:08:22 pm
Are the walls destructible? You need that for a good siege map, otherwise defenders are OP.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on July 31, 2014, 12:26:22 pm
Not yet. And this is a Battle/ Conqest map :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GhostDog on August 07, 2014, 03:12:40 pm
Ready yet?  :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Romulus on August 08, 2014, 06:42:10 am
I know it sounds crazy but after serious consideration with my men, I am ready to reserve a name when that time comes.


The Nr.96 Call dibs on the name: Tercio de Alba, Its a catholic galoglaigh regiment raised from mercenary companies fighting for the Spanish crown. Too late we already called it.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on August 08, 2014, 07:28:10 am
Ready yet?  :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Donner on August 14, 2014, 01:22:44 pm
Is this alive?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on August 14, 2014, 01:23:13 pm
Yes, it is.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on August 21, 2014, 05:13:03 pm
Yes, it is.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on August 22, 2014, 11:06:27 am
Since no one is informing the public I'll try :P

We had a small test on Saturday, with Tercio Cartagena clan and a few Adelstana cavalry members who managed to show up, even though numbers were less than expected they were perfect for testing pike brace feature (P button), which we did in various cav vs pike scenarios. My favorite part was watching the massive frontal charge of cavalry fail due to running into pikes.

The conclusion is, despite a few known glitches which will be fixed, the braced pike does a great job at keeping cav in it's place for this era, which means if a cav regiment attacks a pike formation alone, all they can do is circle and shoot, at least until one skilled and brave horseman manages to ride between braced pikes without being impaled and disrupt their formation, allowing others to charge. Still, brace is not OP, cav can survive the hit at certain angles and speeds, and you can't swirl it around because it deactivates on fast rotation, however it needs more work in tweaking and some nerfing.

All in all it was good fun and guys in pike team reported they "love being pikemen" :P  And I like extra challenge for cav.
It would be great if more regiments apply for future tests, this mod is quite alive, its just that developers decided not to have events during fifa world cup but there should be more events from now on.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Romulus on August 22, 2014, 02:47:55 pm
Since no one is informing the public I'll try :P

We had a small test on Saturday, with Tercio Cartagena clan and a few Adelstana cavalry members who managed to show up, even though numbers were less than expected they were perfect for testing pike brace feature (P button), which we did in various cav vs pike scenarios. My favorite part was watching the massive frontal charge of cavalry fail due to running into pikes.

The conclusion is, despite a few known glitches which will be fixed, the braced pike does a great job at keeping cav in it's place for this era, which means if a cav regiment attacks a pike formation alone, all they can do is circle and shoot, at least until one skilled and brave horseman manages to ride between braced pikes without being impaled and disrupt their formation, allowing others to charge. Still, brace is not OP, cav can survive the hit at certain angles and speeds, and you can't swirl it around because it deactivates on fast rotation, however it needs more work in tweaking and some nerfing.

All in all it was good fun and guys in pike team reported they "love being pikemen" :P  And I like extra challenge for cav.
It would be great if more regiments apply for future tests, this mod is quite alive, its just that developers decided not to have events during fifa world cup but there should be more events from now on.

I volunteer as trib.. eh tester!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: DarkLight on August 25, 2014, 04:30:22 am
Any news?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on August 25, 2014, 04:45:32 pm
We are working on some more maps, scene props and codes :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Baillie on August 30, 2014, 01:14:11 pm
Lovely work Karantukki + Team! :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: CharlesVasser on August 30, 2014, 02:40:30 pm
Cant wait for this.
Title: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: SwissGronkh on August 30, 2014, 05:04:01 pm
KArantukki pls give me the latest test version  :-*

Swiss. or maybe Stief :P
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on August 31, 2014, 01:46:24 am
Cant wait for this.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on August 31, 2014, 06:30:38 pm
KArantukki pls give me the latest test version  :-*

Swiss. or maybe Stief :P

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-6gG_jLAjguY%2FUSCwE6c9H5I%2FAAAAAAAAKpQ%2FTYl3IIuZFSk%2Fs1600%2Fsloth-no.gif&hash=c7232fcb3c7de81f6fe42d9eb87fabdec9243572)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: CharlesVasser on September 09, 2014, 09:02:46 pm
Cant wait for this xD
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GhostDog on September 24, 2014, 03:24:23 pm
Any sign of life?  :-X
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: EdwardC on September 25, 2014, 03:53:24 am
Any sign of life?  :-X
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: jacobo33 on September 29, 2014, 04:15:15 pm
Good work, live the tercios españoles  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on September 29, 2014, 04:37:53 pm
I am busy at the moment with RL and my other mod (for EU4) so i am working on CoW very slowly. But its almost done, just some codingstuff is left to be done, so maybe we can manage to finish it in the next time. :)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: BSM 'Shut up' Williams on September 29, 2014, 05:39:48 pm
Hooray!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GhostDog on September 30, 2014, 08:00:02 pm
Long live Karantukki  :D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 17, 2014, 02:11:22 am
booomp any news?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 17, 2014, 02:12:24 am
booomp any news?
catholics still don't have any rights ever sinc the protty bastards stripped them away
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: kpetschulat on October 17, 2014, 02:15:05 am
I just died, so did this mod... HAHA fook yer pants. I kid. Hopefully we'll see an update soon, I was so eager to play this mod, but I have my fears...
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on October 23, 2014, 04:44:29 am
Falling in love with a mod for a game you already love is like falling in love IRL. That shit is scary, your palms get sweaty, waiting for that mod to get ready, and then it falls through and you're dead- e. knowwhatimeanfaggotlol
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on October 24, 2014, 04:12:54 pm
We're still here. But some Modders are currently working on Mods for other games. But we would inform you ofc, when we loose interest in this. It's just on hold/slow progress, but not "dead".
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Grozni on October 24, 2014, 04:34:24 pm
We're still here. But some Modders are currently working on Mods for other games. But we would inform you ofc, when we loose interest in this. It's just on hold/slow progress, but not "dead".

That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Audiate on October 24, 2014, 10:31:05 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fyeoldecybershoppe.com%2Fmalahide%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2F01-300x201.jpg&hash=58d588df278c8b39d3936cb84217b4056e790741)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Friedrich on October 25, 2014, 01:59:38 am
We're still here. But some Modders are currently working on Mods for other games. But we would inform you ofc, when we loose interest in this. It's just on hold/slow progress, but not "dead".

That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pandawhale.com%2Fstash-1-7471521fa08676169.jpeg&hash=d110e35019d6725b18f5e798355c8496bda9b2d6)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Turin Turambar on October 25, 2014, 02:13:30 am
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fa%2Fa2%2FHoward_Phillips_Lovecraft_in_1915.jpg&hash=00fc5c7e4d9a0bba0508dd07b2b9b1767adf76b6)
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Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: DarkLight on October 26, 2014, 12:43:52 am
Does that means that we will fight Ctulhu in this mod?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: GhostDog on November 13, 2014, 07:15:14 pm
Any news?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: The_Great_Dictator on November 23, 2014, 03:22:01 pm
I wonder how events will go?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Dithon1 on November 23, 2014, 05:37:50 pm
I wonder how events will go?

Similar to how it works in The Deluge, I would imagine.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: The_Great_Dictator on November 25, 2014, 09:53:14 pm
Ok but will Pikes come at each other or will it be like everyone advances and at close range the guns fire and then the Pikes engage? Or will people do something other than these two?
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 25, 2014, 11:50:26 pm
This is assuming events happen at all  :P

>implying disturbing lack of updates
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: Romulus on November 26, 2014, 12:27:48 am
I wonder how events will go?

people will start at spawn and yell insults about Luther, and the protestants will shoot back insults about the popes mother.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: The_Great_Dictator on November 27, 2014, 03:58:30 am
 KArantukki

I am busy at the moment with RL and my other mod (for EU4) so i am working on CoW very slowly. But its almost done, just some codingstuff is left to be done, so maybe we can manage to finish it in the next time. :).

Yeah I think it will be released he just has to take care of a few things.
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: KArantukki on December 21, 2014, 06:26:34 pm
Sorry for the long waiting but i was busy the last weeks/month. Well, here is the Downloadlink for the Beta version, you can test it and set up servers, I dont have the option to host a official server at the moment.

DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ktx3sw6dxhn36j/CoW+Beta.exe)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Beta released)
Post by: GhostDog on December 21, 2014, 07:44:24 pm
Finally. Long live Karantukki!
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Beta released)
Post by: DeadlyWarrior on December 21, 2014, 08:40:46 pm
Very nice tukki  ;)
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Beta released)
Post by: Ry1459 on December 21, 2014, 08:41:57 pm
Can't wait to try it out. Downloading it now  ;D
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (Beta released)
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 21, 2014, 10:55:32 pm
Yay!
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Macca on December 22, 2014, 02:18:26 am
Downloading this now, looks rather interesting.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: EdwardC on December 22, 2014, 02:53:06 am
YAYA!
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Macca on December 22, 2014, 03:02:51 am
No servers? :(
Title: Re: [NW|M] The Century of War (NewTrailer/Screenshots on Pg.44)
Post by: usnavy30 on December 22, 2014, 03:11:54 am
Sorry for the long waiting but i was busy the last weeks/month. Well, here is the Downloadlink for the Beta version, you can test it and set up servers, I dont have the option to host a official server at the moment.

DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ktx3sw6dxhn36j/CoW+Beta.exe)
I'm on Windows 8.1 and when I click run the exe it says it cannot run this app. Is anyone else having this problem? EDIT: never mind it seems the download was corrupt multiple times, it's working now.
Congratulations on releasing the mod! Thank you CoW team!

Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 22, 2014, 04:40:36 am
Still no servers? :(
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: JohannGustavsen on December 22, 2014, 06:35:07 am
Server should be up when a mod is released.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: John Price on December 22, 2014, 10:00:34 am
If he doesnt have the money/option to release with multiple servers running multiple gamemodes then what can he do?

If you want to play it then just switch your regiment servers onto it when your not using :) Its pretty easy aslong as you have access to the FTP, if not just ask your provider to upload and switch it :)
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Czeremis on December 22, 2014, 01:39:32 pm
Hello everyone.
Today I was informed that some mod about 30-years war was released. I'm very glad to see that my favourite period is being developed in m&b world 

I represent the community of The Deluge mod (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,274.0.html), which is also about XVIIth century wars, but in Eastern Europe. I'm leading a clan of Hakkapeliitta (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,309547.0.html) and this mod will give us opportunity to spread the fire not only in Commonwealth and Moscov, but also in Germany  ;D Yes, we become a regiment for The Century of War. I'll aslo talk to other Deluge clans so that they check this mod.

Another thing which I want to tell you is that while in beta version you have only Sweden and Habsburgs and you want to play something else from time to time, you are welcome to join our events on The Deluge. *Don't understand me wrong. My intention is not to kill this mod as a competitor, saying that Deluge is better, NO. I'm talking about some form of cooperation between 2 mods' communities  which are together showing the "beauty" of these times. Think about this offer as it may attract many people both to The Century of War, and to The Deluge ;)
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 22, 2014, 02:23:49 pm
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Good day.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: KArantukki on December 22, 2014, 02:43:35 pm
1. The official Servers (hosted by cubegaming.de) will be up in some days/weeks.

2. I know Deluge and in my opinion its one of the best Warbands mods ever. I dont want to compete with them, i want people to play both mods, with the eastern europe setting and the western europe setting.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Betaknight on December 22, 2014, 02:44:32 pm
Good Luck with the mod Karantukki!
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Yebenoso on December 22, 2014, 02:52:49 pm
Amazing, good work Karantukki,I hope you put up a server soon
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Wigster600 on December 22, 2014, 03:02:25 pm
1. The official Servers (hosted by cubegaming.de) will be up in some days/weeks.

2. I know Deluge and in my opinion its one of the best Warbands mods ever. I dont want to compete with them, i want people to play both mods, with the eastern europe setting and the western europe setting.
Why don't you ask the devs of the Deluge if you can work on some western factions for the Deluge to expand it a little then?  :P
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Czeremis on December 22, 2014, 03:06:31 pm
2. I know Deluge and in my opinion its one of the best Warbands mods ever. I dont want to compete with them, i want people to play both mods, with the eastern europe setting and the western europe setting.

That's exactly what I mean. I'm not a Deluge dev, but just a player who likes both eastern and western aspects of XVIIth century, so you have my full support in this project.

If you need any help in organising an event in CoW, just contact me. I'l try to bring more regiments here anyway.
Host the servers, good luck!
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Wigster600 on December 22, 2014, 03:35:30 pm
Spoiler
Hello everyone.
Today I was informed that some mod about 30-years war was released. I'm very glad to see that my favourite period is being developed in m&b world 

I represent the community of The Deluge mod (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,274.0.html), which is also about XVIIth century wars, but in Eastern Europe. I'm leading a clan of Hakkapeliitta (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,309547.0.html) and this mod will give us opportunity to spread the fire not only in Commonwealth and Moscov, but also in Germany  ;D Yes, we become a regiment for The Century of War. I'll aslo talk to other Deluge clans so that they check this mod.

[close]
Made me chuckle.  ;D
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: EdwardC on December 23, 2014, 06:13:12 am
1. The official Servers (hosted by cubegaming.de) will be up in some days/weeks.

2. I know Deluge and in my opinion its one of the best Warbands mods ever. I dont want to compete with them, i want people to play both mods, with the eastern europe setting and the western europe setting.
Why don't you ask the devs of the Deluge if you can work on some western factions for the Deluge to expand it a little then?  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqgSO8_cRio
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 23, 2014, 05:07:22 pm
Downloading it, meanwhile gonna read about the game, i'm expecting hours of fun with this mod. Anyway nice work Dev Team.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: Andrew on December 23, 2014, 06:27:05 pm
For fuck sake, every single time my download get's corruped.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on December 23, 2014, 06:37:13 pm
For fuck sake, every single time my download get's corruped.

First time i tryed to download it corrupted. Now i'm downloading for the second time.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: kpetschulat on December 23, 2014, 06:54:52 pm
Worked for me the first time.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: EdwardC on December 25, 2014, 09:48:06 pm
Servers up yet..?
Title: Re: The Century of War (Download)
Post by: KArantukki on December 26, 2014, 09:10:35 pm
No, we got problems with the server hoster, so if anyone want to host the official servers for EU or NA feel free to contact me.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: KArantukki on January 02, 2015, 04:43:48 pm
Serverfiles are now available. I will set up a list of playable maps.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Martastik on January 02, 2015, 05:54:23 pm
-sorry double post-
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Martastik on January 02, 2015, 05:55:09 pm
A video of when the 1erCrb played it a while back in case anyone was wondering what it was like in game as a regiment!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIxzy_gCK2c

This is the regiment which has formed out of that, the Adeslfanan.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=21163.0 (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=21163.0)
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Pol Pot on January 11, 2015, 02:51:26 am
Look's good, hope to see some events soon.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Furrnox on January 11, 2015, 03:23:34 am
Hm, why has my voice been changed in several of the shouts? xD

Oh well it sounds hilarious so I approve!
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: KArantukki on January 12, 2015, 01:10:25 pm
I tried to make some different variants so it dont sound like all the swedish soldiers got the same voice xD
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Forest on January 12, 2015, 11:12:30 pm
So what happens to be the current status of this mod in terms of public play and regimental play?
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: usnavy30 on January 13, 2015, 12:29:45 am
So what happens to be the current status of this mod in terms of public play and regimental play?
No servers are online the global servers list as far as I can see. None. I thought there would be a server set up in the coming days/weeks?
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 13, 2015, 08:05:18 am
So what happens to be the current status of this mod in terms of public play and regimental play?
No servers are online the global servers list as far as I can see. None. I thought there would be a server set up in the coming days/weeks?

SHIIIIT, man i realy want to join up in a event, any regiments recruiting guys?
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Vander on January 13, 2015, 09:50:28 am
So what happens to be the current status of this mod in terms of public play and regimental play?
No servers are online the global servers list as far as I can see. None. I thought there would be a server set up in the coming days/weeks?

SHIIIIT, man i realy want to join up in a event, any regiments recruiting guys?

Check the regiments list - though it's quite small, at the moment.

The lack of marketing and the absence of public servers is tarnishing the mod, I think. When a few of the Adelsfanan go on, we're usually the only ones playing.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Betaknight on January 13, 2015, 12:43:24 pm
#Inb4peopleshoutdeadmod
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: EdwardC on January 14, 2015, 03:52:48 am
#Inb4peopleshoutdeadmod
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: NicolasKiyoshi on January 14, 2015, 05:25:49 am
#Inb4peopleshoutdeadmod

+1
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: JohannGustavsen on January 14, 2015, 05:27:39 am
Are there any events currently happening regularly with decent attendance. 
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: PrincessElemix on January 25, 2015, 05:43:00 pm
Is there anywhere else to download this mod? The Mediafire link doesn't download correctly for me. :c
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Forest on January 28, 2015, 05:29:30 am
So no public servers? Why must this mod be so degraded like this?
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Ry1459 on January 28, 2015, 05:35:51 am
So no public servers? Why must this mod be so degraded like this?
It's sad, but most new mods never really make it without heavy advertisement like YouTubers.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Nipplestockings on January 28, 2015, 05:50:32 am
So no public servers? Why must this mod be so degraded like this?
It's sad, but most new mods never really make it without heavy advertisement like YouTubers.

Yeah, but usually they have at least an official server set up by the devs or something. This has absolutely nothing. I want to play ;_:
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Forest on January 28, 2015, 08:31:39 pm
Agreed. This needs pub servers. Once one event gets going with a decent amount of attending groups, things could pick up. This could be the deluge of NA I wanna see t grow
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: EdwardC on February 03, 2015, 06:41:43 am
ok
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Nipplestockings on February 03, 2015, 10:41:04 am
gg
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Romulus on February 06, 2015, 05:51:41 am
Rest in peace you're in mod heaven now.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: JohannGustavsen on February 06, 2015, 07:09:51 am
^With all of the other mod that had such potential^
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Alan Davies on February 19, 2015, 02:44:08 am
I saw one server when I checked yesterday, but  I am not sure if it still is up.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: OttoFIN on February 19, 2015, 10:47:03 am
Everyone pray for our lord and saviour Diplöx so he shall advertise this mod for us and bring many players. Äämen.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dodo on March 02, 2015, 07:26:57 pm
Pictures are gone  :-\.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Andrew on March 02, 2015, 07:37:34 pm
Noooo, the lovely swedish uniforms are all gone.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: CharlesVasser on March 03, 2015, 12:35:52 pm
I cry every time.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Miller786 on March 21, 2015, 11:58:02 pm
My hearth is broken, couldnt even play ONE battle or match or even join a bloody server
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: kaskal on July 07, 2015, 10:59:16 am
Hi. Would you consider adding France, England, Netherland, Scotland, Ireland and Spain to your mod? Please consider it. If you add this nations to your mod, you will create the most impressive Mount Blade mod ever!

France Royal Musketeers, Cardinal Richelieu's Guards - English Civil War; Royalists, Loyalists and Parliamentarians, Levellers - Dutch Rebels(William the Silent, Oranges) - Scots Covenanters - Montrose Irish, Firelock Storming Party and Spanish Tercio!

Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Miller786 on July 07, 2015, 11:02:44 am
im afraid the mod is dead.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Alan Davies on July 10, 2015, 02:57:57 am
What actually happened to it? Everything seemed so nice D:
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Wolff on July 10, 2015, 11:34:50 am
tukki ain't no mountainblade-boy no more
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: usnavy30 on July 14, 2015, 06:18:49 pm
Damn
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on July 14, 2015, 06:23:01 pm
Hi. Would you consider adding France, England, Netherland, Scotland, Ireland and Spain to your mod? Please consider it. If you add this nations to your mod, you will create the most impressive Mount Blade mod ever!

France Royal Musketeers, Cardinal Richelieu's Guards - English Civil War; Royalists, Loyalists and Parliamentarians, Levellers - Dutch Rebels(William the Silent, Oranges) - Scots Covenanters - Montrose Irish, Firelock Storming Party and Spanish Tercio!



I just want to say there were no Royalists and Parliamentarians in Thirty years war :D
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Miller786 on July 23, 2015, 02:03:57 am
the english civil war mod brings hopes for a brighter tomorrow
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Wolff on July 23, 2015, 08:54:48 am
fuck all this new mods - just play the deluge
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: OttoFIN on July 23, 2015, 12:03:10 pm
So amazing mod.. shame that its gonna be dead after 2 months  :'(
rip
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on July 23, 2015, 08:09:39 pm
I hope I will someday win much money and could host server for this :(
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Grozni on July 23, 2015, 09:05:29 pm
I can host decent non-laggy 200 slots server for this, for casual play and events, but not if its gonna be empty all the time. Is there actual interest for playing CoW? Would any regiments apply for the event? What would be best time of week? (my reg takes 1 cav slot :P)

Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Wolff on July 23, 2015, 11:03:12 pm
The Deluge.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: usnavy30 on July 23, 2015, 11:30:00 pm
Let people have their fill of fun and choice, if they want to play Century of War in one event just let them.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Miller786 on July 24, 2015, 02:33:43 am
I can host decent non-laggy 200 slots server for this, for casual play and events, but not if its gonna be empty all the time. Is there actual interest for playing CoW? Would any regiments apply for the event? What would be best time of week? (my reg takes 1 cav slot :P)


id play it as pub, you could try asking some nw or nas regs
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Grozni on July 24, 2015, 12:42:30 pm
Alright, hyperactivity won over common sense yet again.

The server is up.

Its called CoW and is event-ready. You may have to wait 10 seconds or so for it to appear on server list.

If you want to sign up your regiment for events, fill in this questionary:

Your current regiment name:
Desired troop class:
Best day of the week and GMT hour for events (you can add more than one day of the week):
Contact person on Steam (preferably link to steam profile):

Easiest way to find my profile on Steam is if you look at member list of the group Royal Cavalry Company.

If there are enough interested regiments, we will decide on day of the event and event rules.

Module download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ktx3sw6dxhn36j/CoW+Beta.exe (http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ktx3sw6dxhn36j/CoW+Beta.exe)
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on July 24, 2015, 05:40:14 pm
I can't find it
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Grozni on July 24, 2015, 05:51:50 pm
It is up, make sure "has players" filter is off and wait 10-15 seconds on server list.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Miller786 on July 25, 2015, 06:12:31 am
ill be able to play when i get back home on the 30th
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on July 25, 2015, 09:36:14 am
I was there yesterday, but no one is playing it :(
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Grozni on July 25, 2015, 07:21:54 pm
Of course, the mod development is dead and not too interesting for casual play, but events can be cool.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on July 27, 2015, 10:41:37 pm
I think you should post topic about your server in Servers board
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on July 28, 2015, 10:32:36 pm
Anyone on right now?
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on January 26, 2016, 06:00:48 pm
If I could get in touch with the devs, I could ask them to release sourcecode and probably someone would finish the mod
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on January 26, 2016, 06:15:22 pm
If I could get in touch with the devs, I could ask them to release sourcecode and probably someone would finish the mod

Just let the mod rest.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on January 26, 2016, 06:15:49 pm
If I could get in touch with the devs, I could ask them to release sourcecode and probably someone would finish the mod

Just let the mod rest.
No! I love it
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Wigster600 on January 26, 2016, 06:21:26 pm
Just play The Deluge instead.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on January 26, 2016, 06:22:16 pm
Just play The Deluge instead.
nononononono
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Grozni on January 26, 2016, 06:50:15 pm
After main devs decided to stop development I raised a casual CoW server but it was empty for weeks so I turned it off.
From this and past experiences with CoW events I can say people gathered around this mod only act as if they are interested, while showing very little interest when it comes to actually playing the mod, so just don't waste your time and energy on this.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on January 26, 2016, 06:54:23 pm
After main devs decided to stop development I raised a casual CoW server but it was empty for weeks so I turned it off.
From this and past experiences with CoW events I can say people gathered around this mod only act as if they are interested, while showing very little interest when it comes to actually playing the mod, so just don't waste your time and energy on this.
but why don't people play it? Why do they play mods like NaS or any other mods, but not this one? While reading older posts, people were hyped and wanted to play this mod so badly. Now no one cares. I don't understand why people lost interest
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Wigster600 on January 26, 2016, 06:56:50 pm
Because I presume it's rather heavily melee orientated and NW doesn't cope with melee too well.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on January 26, 2016, 06:57:50 pm
Because I presume it's rather heavily melee orientated and NW doesn't cope with melee too well.
who said it's more focused on melee? Muskets play important role
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Wigster600 on January 26, 2016, 07:00:12 pm
Because I presume it's rather heavily melee orientated and NW doesn't cope with melee too well.
who said it's more focused on melee? Muskets play important role
I said more. Not 100%.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Grozni on January 26, 2016, 10:10:30 pm
After main devs decided to stop development I raised a casual CoW server but it was empty for weeks so I turned it off.
From this and past experiences with CoW events I can say people gathered around this mod only act as if they are interested, while showing very little interest when it comes to actually playing the mod, so just don't waste your time and energy on this.
but why don't people play it? Why do they play mods like NaS or any other mods, but not this one? While reading older posts, people were hyped and wanted to play this mod so badly. Now no one cares. I don't understand why people lost interest

Probably many little factors. I think one of reasons is visual identity of CoW is not attractive enough, it is mostly dull gray/brown colors as opposed to NW's various vivid colors of uniforms and this produces boredom in most people. I like CoW period armor pieces very much, but in M&B engine, if not done by a very professional modeler, uniforms just don't look too well. And model quality doesn't appeal to people who got spoiled by NW and NaS, this is problem many mods have nowadays.

Also, melee is done in a way which requires good teamwork, and you can die easily without it being your fault (more so than NW, due to those long but spammy pikes) so this deters some people. And, the period itself is simply not as popular as NW or NaS, which also has strong base of American players, due to NaS being strictly related to their history. Add to that the fact that many people will say "Deluge is a better version of this" and I guess you have enough cons to burry the mod.

Those are just my guesses tho, I'm not sure what actually caused this difference between pretended interest VS actual interest.
Title: Re: The Century of War (Serverfiles are available)
Post by: Dazzer on January 26, 2016, 10:25:10 pm
After main devs decided to stop development I raised a casual CoW server but it was empty for weeks so I turned it off.
From this and past experiences with CoW events I can say people gathered around this mod only act as if they are interested, while showing very little interest when it comes to actually playing the mod, so just don't waste your time and energy on this.
but why don't people play it? Why do they play mods like NaS or any other mods, but not this one? While reading older posts, people were hyped and wanted to play this mod so badly. Now no one cares. I don't understand why people lost interest

Probably many little factors. I think one of reasons is visual identity of CoW is not attractive enough, it is mostly dull gray/brown colors as opposed to NW's various vivid colors of uniforms and this produces boredom in most people. I like CoW period armor pieces very much, but in M&B engine, if not done by a very professional modeler, uniforms just don't look too well. And model quality doesn't appeal to people who got spoiled by NW and NaS, this is problem many mods have nowadays.

Also, melee is done in a way which requires good teamwork, and you can die easily without it being your fault (more so than NW, due to those long but spammy pikes) so this deters some people. And, the period itself is simply not as popular as NW or NaS, which also has strong base of American players, due to NaS being strictly related to their history. Add to that the fact that many people will say "Deluge is a better version of this" and I guess you have enough cons to burry the mod.

Those are just my guesses tho, I'm not sure what actually caused this difference between pretended interest VS actual interest.
well I think models look good and I love this mod more than Deluge.This mod is perfect for Commander battles. It's a shame that so much effort was put into this mod, but no one appreciates it